🕹・game-discussion

[rugged bloom]

My favorite hand to build to is 4oak

[pastel pagoda]

Is shakespeare really dead?

[wraith slate]

the perfect deck has grown lol

[red briar]

i can tell im going to hate green deck

[molten thicket]

its so

[pastel pagoda]

Holy hell

[lofty vault]

How long until we checked his coffin

[molten thicket]

uniform

my eyes were not meant to see this beauty

[gilded path]

i dont think shakespeare is a name, its a title 🔥

[ivory elbow]

trial and error until you get it, thats the only way u can continue playing

[lofty vault]

Paranoid of hitting one of the 4 suit bosses

[red briar]

green deck econ is so weird

how do i beat this

[lofty vault]

Econ it

[pastel pagoda]

Honestly I hate green deck

[ivory elbow]

merry andy, recyclomacy, drunkyard

[pastel pagoda]

I like my jokers that scale from playing hands

[lofty vault]

The first discard voucher is better than the upgrade cuz the first one is a trashcan and trashcans are amazing for digging in

[wraith slate]

pretty much, even though I have retcon lol

[red briar]

i think im doing a straight build

[wraith slate]

also it just looks so pretty

[serene forge]

this is so funny to me

[ivory elbow]

pfp reference

[lofty vault]

Reroll the plant then hit one of the 4 suit bosses

[red briar]

does anyone have tips for deckfixing a straight build

do you just get a whole bunch of aces, kings, queens, and jacks

[serene forge]

cut the ends, like ace + king and 2 + 3 for example

aim for middle ranks

[primal heath]

^

[wraith slate]

I lowkey might just do that lmao, just beat every suit boss with this deck 🙂

[lofty vault]

Kill stuff until it's good enough

[cosmic sun]

reddit in theory is a place where you can have discussion but everyone is a snarky nerd who tries to one up you instead of engaging in good faith

[primal heath]

Do i go for the soul here?

[red briar]

i can survive for now but idonno

[molten thicket]

hmmm

[serene forge]

no

[wraith slate]

nothing else better to do on the road to ante 39, I've already gotten a x300.0000001 negative constellation and level 5000 high card on a previous run lol

[primal heath]

im scoring around 200k with a 2pair

[molten thicket]

idk what to think of this

[lofty vault]

One of the few times I'd consider skipping a soul

[wraith slate]

there isn't really a soul card that's good for you I guess is the issue

[serene forge]

the math is just straight up wrong

[cosmic sun]

Square with mult or a mult scaler is free

[serene forge]

20 hands to reach 80 chips, which apparently takes 6 antes to get

[molten thicket]

yeah

[lofty vault]

I think with that setup you just win anyways and if you hit the wrong legendary you might lose

[echo sphinx]

lmao

[serene forge]

i have no idea where any of those numbers came from

[molten thicket]

reddit is very full of.... interesting opinions

[red briar]

im gonn lose this run vro

[frank grove]

😭

[serene forge]

also neglecting the fact that by default blue joker gives you 80 chips for a hand or two and only gets worse as the round progresses or the deck is trimmed

[rose trout]

Okay cool, but how do you get only kings and jokers?

[lofty vault]

Fire gold stakes build

[wraith slate]

a lot of practice and going through a bunch of seeds idk

[vestal copper]

4oak ❤️‍🩹

[lofty vault]

Burglar and castle combo goes crazy

[rose trout]

Okay

[heavy heron]

@serene forge erm

[serene forge]

"The point is that if you’re able to carry a joker that is essentially worthless for so long, you’re doing well enough that you’re probably better served just getting a better joker. Even in ante 6/7 you could pick up something like ice cream and get about the same number of chips, and you would have a saved a lot of money to spend on rerolling for better jokers elsewhere or planets/tarots to improve your deck.

I’m sure it can scale okay eventually, but if you’re set up to really make it work then you are set up to go for better options. It’s (square joker) a “win more” card"

[green meteor]

Even in ante what?

[serene forge]

fake news

[red briar]

i had the perfect run nooo

[heavy heron]

you caught me

i forged the video

[cosmic sun]

67

[lofty vault]

67

[heavy heron]

wait

fork head

bro

[serene forge]

hi

[heavy heron]

i need to show you something

that i bet you’ve never seen before

[serene forge]

what is it

[rugged bloom]

First time running a 4oak build, enjoyed it

[heavy heron]

look at this

LOOLLLL

I REROLLED FIRST

FOR THAT EXACT

REASON

IVE NEVER HAD THIS HAPPEN TO ME BEFORE

[serene forge]

LMAO

[heavy heron]

that’s 2 blueprints in the same shop side by side

[red briar]

nvm i just got blueprint we r saved

[serene forge]

thats funny

[lofty vault]

Sucks for you cuz if you took it you would've gotten brainstorm

[cosmic sun]

did this guy nuke all his balatro comments out of embarassment

[nova leaf]

Drunk man jumpscare

[heavy heron]

or an obelisk..

[heavy heron]

that’s a good pickup wow

[nova leaf]

Is it?

[lofty vault]

Oops all discards

[heavy heron]

yeah i mean

[serene forge]

wdym

[heavy heron]

free discard

[nova leaf]

Yeah but then I have to play an extra hand round 2....

I'm going broke:(

[heavy heron]

i mean

it’s your choice

[lofty vault]

Red deck with drunk

[nova leaf]

The Dollar..

[lofty vault]

Just need a Andy and yorik/banner

[heavy heron]

id take the drunkard personally because with 4 discards you need wayyyy less deck fixing

to make a hand type you want work

[red briar]

the mouth just kille me

[lofty vault]

Also it's negative I mean you gotta take negatives even if they're bad

[flat warren]

Go buy a lotto ticket fr

[red briar]

its so over

[nova leaf]

I wish I was better at Balatro but instead of being a guy who consistently pulls pair and high card runs I just restart until I have something going naturally at ante 3/4

[heavy heron]

it’s the fact that if i didn’t reroll, i would’ve gotten smth else

that’s insane

[frank notch]

wow very good negatuve

[lofty vault]

Just get a perkeo and copy 145 copies of judgement so statistically you'll hit every joker once

[flat warren]

Idk why but I reroll new games 20+ times till I feel like I have a good game

[cosmic sun]

naturally?

🤔

[bleak hemlock]

whimpers

[cosmic sun]

nvm its just an old ass comment

[lofty vault]

Fire joker

[scenic sigil]

Hi guys

Started playing balatro recently

Is this cool?

[bleak hemlock]

Welcome to addiction

o7

[frank notch]

golly gee goodness i got ante 2 cavendish

[lofty vault]

Failure upon thee

I have 0 idea what can kill you this run but whatever can I summon it upon you

[red briar]

fuaahgh

green deck is so hard bruh

[stone shell]

trust in plant fr (it wont do anything)

[red briar]

ante 1 supernova

we can do something with this

hologram too

[nova leaf]

I think I need to start playing early game better cuz I assume the choice here should be obvious

But personally idk if I try to pull a Saturn out of celestial or open arcana or just press next

[red briar]

is there an option to swipe to select cards

jadies and lentlemen we are back

[cosmic sun]

Use 4 card hands to get to your straight hand

(Yes take Square)

[plain herald]

should i replace something with to the moon to blast my economy further into the stratosphere or keep what i got i'm trying to get a vampire midas mask build

[frank notch]

i didnt get enough flat mult

[thick delta]

any other deck

[stone shell]

square joker for possible lobotomy pivot in the future would be my choice

[frank notch]

print screen button

[ivory elbow]

can madness destroy another madenss

[frank grove]

if its not eternal yes

[last path]

did someone order ace of hearts?

the first 2 absolutely carried the setup

[red briar]

could this be a winning green stake run 🥺

[limber nova]

Modding this game on Linux was quite a ways easier than i expected it to be ngl

[ivory elbow]

idk

[red briar]

hope so

[heady narwhal]

dna
no

[frank notch]

what do i do here

[ivory elbow]

probably yes if holo and constellation and supernova are good enough

[lunar fjord]

deff

u have a base mult with 3 x mutlt

[frank notch]

pair at level 6

[red briar]

if i got a baron right now it would be dubs

[lunar fjord]

u just have to get a good enough econ

[heady narwhal]

(joke post. dna probably doesn't get bar until blue)

[red briar]

i have so many kings

[heady narwhal]

why

card sharp + supernova encourage you to play pairs

[bleak hemlock]

drop the extra brainstorm for dna? idk :3

[heady narwhal]

would be better to just copy gold cards and blue seals

[thick delta]

i actually do remember someone doing a barron run on abandoned deck but they had great econ early making deck fixing easy

[frank notch]

put the blueprint on baron

[red briar]

i guess but

flushes kind of be working right now

[bleak hemlock]

money

[red briar]

and as long as i win everything on white stake i dont really mind

[bleak hemlock]

i am putting when scoring

[heady narwhal]

any other deck and this would be just as bad of a start

[bleak hemlock]

should i swap brainstorm for dna?

[lunar fjord]

can u show deck?

[red briar]

i could just play high car

[bleak hemlock]

atleast take me out to a da- oh you meant deck

[heady narwhal]

or really it's better on abandoned deck because you can use zany joker

[pale wolf]

blatro

[bleak hemlock]

blaro

[lunar fjord]

whats ur scoring

[pale wolf]

my neighbor balatro

[bleak hemlock]

e29

[red briar]

yea this is a win

[bleak hemlock]

but

thats like

[thick delta]

not really if you can survive early game with it being useless and essentially play with one less joker it until you can deck fix

[bleak hemlock]

with all gold

[lunar fjord]

ion think u take it

[exotic pike]

no

brainstorm funnt

[frigid tangle]

Giga

[hasty harness]

baron is bad unless ur trying to high score and even on high score runs its bad too get early you'd much rather it mid/late

[heady narwhal]

absolutely not worth it

baron is really bad

[exotic pike]

so true

[heady narwhal]

it needs to give chips for it to be usable i think

[exotic pike]

i had a funny game yesterday

[red briar]

aaand its wraps gg green deck down

i think

[lunar fjord]

whats the worst deck in the game?

[cloud sinew]

this would beat vessel at purple stake as well, gj

[cloud sinew]

for winning, black deck

at all stakes

[exotic pike]

mmmmmmmmmmm

[red briar]

finally green deck own

i hear black deck is horrid though

[frank notch]

uh oh

[lunar fjord]

if u can get past early/ mid game

[cloud sinew]

its still pretty bad even if you make it past the early game because -1 hands is still -5 cards seen, +33% scoring needed per hand on average, -1 scaling attempt, -$1 a round, all for the whole game

[red briar]

when does erlygame en

[lunar fjord]

ante 3-4?

[cloud sinew]

generally, ante 3

[red briar]

banana from riffraff i love you balatro

[frank notch]

THANK GOD I GOT RETCON VOUCHER LAST MINUTE

[nimble edge]

what does this do?

[cloud sinew]

theres a bit of an overlap between them imo;
early is 1-3
mid is 3-6
late is 6-8

[hasty harness]

go back 1 ante

and lose 1 hand

[lunar fjord]

exactly what it says

[hasty harness]

so if ur on ante 3

you go to ante 2

[nimble edge]

why would i do that?

[lunar fjord]

and if u have 4 hands
you go to 3 hands

[cloud sinew]

going down an ante lowers the scoring requirements

[hasty harness]

if you cant beat the current ante your on

[lunar fjord]

scalling

[hasty harness]

it gives you time to get stronger

[lunar fjord]

more shops

[hasty harness]

yeah

[nimble edge]

ok thx

[lunar fjord]

purple/blue seal value

[cloud sinew]

i would say I have underrated heiroglyph in the past, but i still don't think it's that good. it's probably C tier rather than D or F

[lunar fjord]

when i started

[jagged dune]

More scaling and more preparation

And more shops

[frank notch]

3 joker win

[lunar fjord]

i thought heiroglyph was -1 ante every round and -1 hand every roune

round

[cloud sinew]

i feel like petro and heiro should be swapped tbh

[jagged dune]

How does -1 ante every round work

[cloud sinew]

as in heiro should be -1 discard and petro should be -1 hand

[jagged dune]

I agree

[willow frost]

i still don't like the term "each round" lol

[lunar fjord]

but that would make blue stake a lot harder

[cloud sinew]

me neither

[cloud sinew]

blue stake is being reworked so i think it's fine to go along with that

[lunar fjord]

it is?

[jagged dune]

Just say -1 hand what's wrong with tha

[cloud sinew]

we don't know what to, just that it won't be -1 discards

[jagged dune]

Yes

[lunar fjord]

cool

[heady narwhal]

+1 discard -1 hand would be funny i think. unlikely though

[sleek valley]

I had one a few weeks ago where it was just 3 copies of Steel Joker

[cloud sinew]

i am really hoping this is the rework

it seems so fun and switches the current meta up so much

at base you go from 4 hands 2 discards to 3 hands 4 discards

very much rewarding higher hands over lobotomy

[heady narwhal]

imo the problem would be black deck and hieroglyph

[jagged dune]

Yeah that's cool

[cloud sinew]

i think my petroglyph heiroglyph swap idea would be good for this then

where heiro is -1 discards and petro is -1 hands

[heady narwhal]

makes sense

[willow frost]

what would you do about black deck

just leave it?

[frank grove]

keep it as is

[lunar fjord]

ye

[red briar]

black deck sucks bro

[willow frost]

damn

[lunar fjord]

it can be one of the best late game decks

[frank grove]

black deck should be the difficult deck i think making black deck easier would defeat the purpose of its existence

[cloud sinew]

if by late game you mean endless, then that doesnt really matter

[lunar fjord]

its just realy hard to get there

[red briar]

i am playing it right now i want to cry

[cloud sinew]

the game is balanced around ante 8 first

[lunar fjord]

ye

[heady narwhal]

i guess with 4 discards you'd be able to set up builds that win in 1 hand but it'd be pretty bad

[lunar fjord]

why is ante 12 so much higher thand ante 11?

[red briar]

how am i meant to win :C

[cloud sinew]

that's when endless scaling starts

[heady narwhal]

endless mode is a slog if it doesn't scale fast

[willow frost]

yeah black deck should be hard but i dont think buffing it is necessary lol

[lunar fjord]

ok

[red briar]

i just cannot win on this deck

ante 1 supernova...

[cloud sinew]

what do you find yourself struggling with the most?
i.e finding the "right" jokers, getting up to the interest cap (keeping $25, and getting $5 a round), knowing what hands to play?

[red briar]

all of it :C

[cloud sinew]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[red briar]

black deck just sux

[true thunder]

does baseball card work on rare/legendary?

[cloud sinew]

no

[lunar fjord]

its only uncommons

[cloud sinew]

only jokers that have "uncommon" rarity

[red briar]

aside from that i cant win unless i get absurdly lucky

[heady narwhal]

black deck white stake? i'd just recommend getting practice on higher stakes on other decks

[stiff crow]

🔫

[red briar]

i cant even win white stake 95% of the time

[cloud sinew]

😭

[full orbit]

soryy sorry

i was too late

[cloud sinew]

its alright

[full orbit]

ty

[cloud sinew]

but next time don't delete the ping, just apologise after

[full orbit]

👍

[willow frost]

ok so what you do is you restart another deck until you get hieroglyph ante 1 and simulate black deck with it

[lunar fjord]

whats the hardest jump in dificulty? (for stakes)

[willow frost]

this is not a real idea

[cloud sinew]

blue

[willow frost]

white to gold

next question

[heady narwhal]

blue is the most impactful stake addition

[red briar]

my struggle is winning consistently now

[frank grove]

blue is tough, purple right after is also annoying but not as bad

[red briar]

gg runs over

[heady narwhal]

which jokers do you like taking? what hands do you like playing?

[red briar]

all my black deck runs end at ante 1 or 2

[neon iris]

Does anyone know if the crimson bean bug can be done with the verdant leaf? It also provides an opportunity where jokers go from debuffed to not debuffed, so could one get at least one instance of the action of selling a joker?

[red briar]

i've enjoyed taking hologram + dna

but that isn't that common to get

[lunar fjord]

photochad

[heady narwhal]

the jokers are never debuffed

[frank grove]

verdant leaf doesnt debuff jokers

[neon iris]

Oh that's cards

Whoops

Too much balala this morning has my brain rotted out

Lmao

[cloud sinew]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[lunar fjord]

are we allowed to do that?

[cloud sinew]

ping mods? yes

just make sure you only do it if it's necessary

[lunar fjord]

kk

ty

[cloud sinew]

for non-emergency / things that dont need to be sorted ASAP you should make a report in #mod-mail

[lunar fjord]

ok

[calm furnace]

immortal banana 🍌

[faint linden]

Hot take: I like all 5 Legendaries equally

[red briar]

black deck...

[lunar fjord]

u have c++ right?

[cloud sinew]

I do

I've done it twice

[lunar fjord]

whats the hardest part of it>

?

[cloud sinew]

the last 25 jokers take about as long as the first 90

[lunar fjord]

ohh

ok

[sand glade]

Hi

[red briar]

does ANYONE have black deck tips

im stuck

[faint linden]

How cursed would it be to get C+ before C?

[sand glade]

(:

[lunar fjord]

yes

[calm furnace]

huh how?

[cloud sinew]

C is something you need to go out of your way for (seeing double unlock, petroglyph unlock, etc) but C+ will just happen naturally if youre playing the game normally

[calm furnace]

whats C

[cloud sinew]

C+ is all stake deck wins, C is completed collection

[faint linden]

Petroglyph and Stuntman will be the death of me

[lunar fjord]

C+ is all decks gold stake?

[calm furnace]

yeah honestly best advice for C++ if you really like playing GS just play and naturally it will happen

[sand glade]

What is c++

[lunar fjord]

all jokers with gold sticker

[cloud sinew]

all jokers gold stickered

[faint linden]

All 150 jokers have gold stickers

[calm furnace]

there is like 10 jokers that are annoying to gold sticker but thats it

[gentle basalt]

Only for some specific definitions of "playing normally"

[lunar fjord]

food jokers?

[gentle basalt]

But those are common, so, easy to find

[calm furnace]

the food ones are the most annoying in my experience

[cloud sinew]

the worst 5 to sticker are Turtle Bean > Popcorn > Michel > Seltzer > Ice Cream

[red briar]

another ante 2 death to black deck

[calm furnace]

for me the worst one to sticker was showman i never use that mf

[sand glade]

What is balatro 😄

[faint linden]

Instinct tells me reroll untill you find Grabber

[sand glade]

Haha

[faint linden]

Dunno. We play balala here

[red briar]

i actually just cannot win

[faint linden]

Grabber counteracts the downside of Black Deck

[red briar]

but getting it early leaves me at an econ disadvantge

and im likely to just lose anyways because im not good at the game

[faint linden]

Do you have gold on all 14 other decks? That's how I'll probably handle it

[white anvil]

Is it crazy to take card sharp here

[red briar]

no

[lunar fjord]

not rly

[calm furnace]

no?

[red briar]

i cant even pass white stake on most decks

[desert zodiac]

damn.,,..,

[lunar fjord]

brainstorm...

[faint linden]

Black is the hardest deck in the game

[white anvil]

yeah thats why im saying is it crazy

[lunar fjord]

it is

[red briar]

but i need it to unlock more decks

[white anvil]

But like what do i do copy

[versed sable]

card sharp seems more correct to me

[lunar fjord]

duo

[white anvil]

pair? Thats 2x

[white anvil]

Yeah

[lunar fjord]

or scary face

[white anvil]

im playing pairs though

[versed sable]

sell scary face and take card sharp and those are your jokers for the run ig

[lunar fjord]

plus brainstorm is just better in general

[white anvil]

eternal half

[faint linden]

You'll need to be more aggressive in scoring and not be afraid to pull tarot shenanigans

[manic vault]

how far can you go without xmult jokers actually

[white anvil]

exactly was gonna be my moves but it pains me to skip a brainstorm

[red briar]

blueprint on black deck

[white anvil]

Thank you for the second opinion

[red briar]

everybody kind of calm down i might still lose

[faint linden]

Or be me and find Yorick

[rose niche]

So what's the lore behind Polterworx. Why did the mod maker crash out and take the mod off everywhere

I'm quite sad I didn't get to try it before the implosion

[red briar]

i need to find something to synergise with blueprint fast

supernova my love..

[rose niche]

Brainstorm

[limber nova]

[teal quarry]

Yo this soul 😮

[faint linden]

Any type of xMult

[teal quarry]

how do i go form here guys

[faint linden]

And Fool. Based

[rose niche]

Cowardly. Hiker Blueprint NOW

[faint linden]

Man's on Black Deck

[thorn sage]

i love flush

[hasty harness]

okay the rng is actually crazy lol

[wintry ice]

i'd say cat over banana because perkeo helps a lot for mass producing lucky cards

[red briar]

FUCK

[teal quarry]

this is actually my first time having perkeo

[white anvil]

Goodbye mr needle and i think its ggs

[versed sable]

nice -w-

[teal quarry]

but seeing my joker i know i can do something with it but not knowing how xD

[rose niche]

You are so done for

[white anvil]

Huh why

[lunar fjord]

but if thats in one hand

[versed sable]

if you have blue seals you are so chilling i think

[lunar fjord]

and u have cardsharp

[red briar]

black deck is cfrying me

[lunar fjord]

u can get past next ante

[rose niche]

Eternal half joker and blue joker eternal?

Terrible cards

[white anvil]

You gotta survive early game somehow

[versed sable]

they're perfectly fine for what they're needed for lol

[lunar fjord]

ye

[faint linden]

Find a tarot you like and keep printing it. Perkeo is a consumable printer

[rose niche]

Yeah but having them in eternal in endgame is practically two wasted joker slots

[versed sable]

and?

[red briar]

i hate this game

[versed sable]

they have x12 mult from jokers other than that

they should be fine xd

[teal quarry]

maybe go cat and hope to find the tarot joker ?

[lunar fjord]

for just beating the run it doesnt rly matter

blue joker is an ok source of chips

[teal quarry]

to replace the diamond joker

[faint linden]

Cat and try to print Magician Tarot. Fortune Teller would be AMAZING

[teal quarry]

only worry is my +mult

[red briar]

what deck should i play after green deck im tired of black

[teal quarry]

no good +mult atm

[rose niche]

It really depends on your RnG. It's not gonna be easy to get to ante 8 with 3 joker slots. Those two cards don't really pull their weight in ante 6-8

[faint linden]

If you get Fortune Teller or RTB, that's great scaling +Mult

[rose niche]

You'd need to be exceptionally lucky

Then again I might be yapping, I haven't played vanilla balatro in awhile, I'm too used to paperback

[teal quarry]

let hope i can scale this perkeo xD im excited lol

[red briar]

?

[white anvil]

WHAT ARE THESE BOSSES

im barely getting by

[faint linden]

Perkeo doesn't scale

[rose niche]

Nah you're gonna win, you have Hermit

You play on mobile, Aroix?

[white anvil]

Yes

[rose niche]

That's neat. How is it?

[versed sable]

whoever cut this pie needs help

[willow frost]

are you french perhaps

[white anvil]

Nope

[willow frost]

no thats how they work i think

ah nvm

thought i recognised your name lol

[willow frost]

its shart

ok its not bad but after playing on pc i cant play mobile

[versed sable]

[faint linden]

Canadian Psychic
||(South Park joke)||

[red briar]

how do i get supernova up and running if i want to play pairs?

i don't get enough points to win the blin

blind*

[lunar fjord]

play throw away hands that only use pairs

[faint linden]

Throwaway hands like 775 or something

[red briar]

im just useless at balatro mayne ✌️

[faint linden]

This is where Stone Cards come in clutch

[white anvil]

Oh i really like playing on mobile more than pc

[steady marten]

Yo guys I'm trying to beat gold stake on Ghost deck should I buy this planet card?

[primal heath]

no

[steady marten]

alr ty

[abstract oyster]

Now i have to make glass

[steady marten]

I'm so locked in I gotta get help form the experts

[white anvil]

The port is great if you have a 120hz screen it's really fun as a mobile game

[red briar]

well hello there

[indigo isle]

What would be the most reasonable thing to do here ?

[woven spire]

Pair?

yeahhhhhhh

[faint linden]

looks inside

[lunar fjord]

dna?

[woven spire]

dna

[rose niche]

Kill the default dna

[indigo isle]

thanks 😄

[faint linden]

Listen to glob

[gray plaza]

HOLY

[worthy tinsel]

AJ enjoyer spotted

[willow frost]

6/[UI ERROR] what happened lol

[woven spire]

Not again 😭

[indigo isle]

Yesss!

[rose niche]

NICE

[woven spire]

i have three names.

[red briar]

looks inside
bad balatro player
loses ante 2

[faint linden]

Cleb, you're good

[faint linden]

With Photochad?

[teal quarry]

Im so fricking greedy for that sock& buskin

[red briar]

im praying for a supernova right now

[red briar]

i'd find a way

[steady marten]

I just beat the spade boss should I get world or hermit?

[faint linden]

Hermit

[steady marten]

Alr

[white anvil]

Uhhh is acrobat over ramen worth it? I dont think so ramen is at 1.8x

[lunar fjord]

perkeeo or perkayo

[faint linden]

Ew. Eternal Rental

[faint linden]

Latter

He was German

[red briar]

kind of like that

[white anvil]

i need to score 400k i think im around 320k

[faint linden]

F

[white anvil]

would lovering 3 hands by 1.8x and increasing the last one from 1.8x to 3x be enough

[red briar]

i think i may have wasted my money here

[faint linden]

You'll get there

Everyone struggles at first

[red briar]

i struggle more than others

[teal quarry]

yo @faint linden can the fool work with this?

[lunar fjord]

no

[woven spire]

trust me you don’t, took me months to win for the first time

[faint linden]

No because it's Spectral

[lunar fjord]

its only for planet and tarots

[teal quarry]

ahhh still finding that 1 joker and 1 tarrot to save the run

I think im about to die

[red briar]

i always be losing to ante 1 and 2

[faint linden]

You wouldn't want to multi Ecto anyway because hand size

[red briar]

even with something like photochad i still lose

[white anvil]

YES I MADE THE RIGHT MOVE

[woven spire]

photochad isn’t a guaranteed win lol dw

[faint linden]

Most of my Photochad runs:

[versed sable]

(1.8 * 2) + (1.8 * 2 * 3) *3 = 36 hands worth
2 + (2 * 3) *2 + (2 * 3 * 3) = 18 hands worth
by my math, easily keep ramen

[woven spire]

any glass card:

[white anvil]

the last boss is the crimson heart though

[limber nova]

Photochad blueprint moment

[versed sable]

either way ramen's more consistent

-w-

[faint linden]

Our least favorite Phoenician letter @woven spire

[red briar]

i just can't seem to win a single run anymore

[woven spire]

true….

[flat warren]

What’s your favorite thing to spend a bunch of Double Tags on?

[red briar]

guess ill play red deck red stake

[versed sable]

vouchers

[white anvil]

Well, i hope this gets there

[woven spire]

that tag that doubles your econ, or vouchers

[red briar]

is red stake a big jump from white stake

[white anvil]

LETS GOOO

Green deck gold stake done

[woven spire]

i like how they didn’t gaf

[sage blaze]

im stuck at black stake on green deck still😭😭😭

lost like 5 times in a row

[white anvil]

the message was way too late 😭

[ancient gyro]

d6

[frozen tendon]

glass usually saves it though

9 times outta 10

[woven spire]

what

[red briar]

how do people just win consistently

[ancient gyro]

d6

[red briar]

80% luck game :C

[woven spire]

not rlly

[red briar]

for me it is

i either get really lucky or lose

[white anvil]

You mean "a roguelike"

[faint linden]

Those symbols look familiar, anyone?

[sage blaze]

if u restart ur run when yk u r gonna lose if u play ur last hand, then technically u dont lose

[ancient gyro]

luck isn't a factor of winning runs, that chalks up to skill in various decision making

[white anvil]

idk why but this "sade" guy is giving me bad vibes

[red briar]

i can guarantee that isn't the case for me

if i had the best intuition in the world i'd still find a way to lose

[woven spire]

Ayin guy seems worse imo

[fervent pebble]

evil conniving W

[ancient gyro]

not how that works within the games intuition, don't blame the game

[frozen tendon]

fuck ramen

[faint linden]

I don't want to burn myself

[night turret]

Kinda wanna stop deck bloating should i get rid of certification for popcorn or ramen?

[red briar]

i suppose it's my fault for not getting lucky

[ancient gyro]

experienced enough*

[frozen tendon]

makes sense to me

[faint linden]

Balatro has a VERY steep learning curve

[ancient gyro]

well

[night turret]

Which one tho

[olive stirrup]

Boss blinds

[ancient gyro]

compared to other roguelikes it's pretty light

[mighty hare]

How to beat a run on red stake

[red briar]

another red deck white stake loss

[frozen tendon]

I’d go ramen cuz it’s foil even though I just said fuck ramen

[red briar]

ante 1

[night turret]

Lmao I guess

[olive stirrup]

Do i take photo?

[mighty hare]

Yes

Yes

You have 2 tribs

How is that a no to photo

[ancient gyro]

like I highly doubt an average gs player here will last very long into the earlier ascensions of sts

[woven spire]

i wouldn’t

[frank grove]

you would have to sell hallu which is deck fixing

[faint linden]

Sell Hallucination

[fiery nymph]

nah

[mighty hare]

Ye fair enough

[frank grove]

I would wait for some retriggers

[fiery nymph]

wait for a chad or sock

[rare sequoia]

it was fun while it lasted.

[rugged bloom]

I forgot I had a showman and have been using two rebates

[woven spire]

you already have scoring, keep your slots for retriggers

[olive stirrup]

I def need more deck fixing

[fiery nymph]

yeah exactly

[faint linden]

Then skip Photo

[woven spire]

you forgot you have 2 rebates?

[rugged bloom]

I forgot I had two rebates

[frozen tendon]

doesn’t really matter what you do, just can’t run into the plant or it’s over

[fiery nymph]

what even enticed the showman

[faint linden]

Red seal steel is cursed

[rugged bloom]

bought it from the pack

[fiery nymph]

oh

[frozen tendon]

Couple strengths away

[fiery nymph]

fair

[olive stirrup]

I have reroll voucher if that's the case

[frozen tendon]

Wouldn’t turn them all into hearts either

Incase you roll plant into debuffed hearts

[frank grove]

that could happen with all the suit bosses though

[frozen tendon]

then have a mix

to prevent that from being an issue

[frank grove]

then you have to play full houses which kinda suck

[frozen tendon]

he had 3 tribs

has

and photo

[red briar]

yet another white stake red deck loss

ante 4

[teal quarry]

@faint linden HE CAME

[red briar]

when tf am i gonna get lucky again

[hoary grail]

what's the optimal way of ordering these

[teal quarry]

so what is the strat now? im having a bunch of queens

do i red seal most of lucky and just leave a couple of blue steel?

[molten thicket]

bp on mime 2 bs on baron is correct

also why is your chicot negative

[fervent wolf]

Straight outta the Judgement in the arcana pack

[hoary grail]

I did an ecto while having it 💀

[molten thicket]

you can't reach ante 40 without bugs

[frank grove]

theres a bug with bones that can make the ante counter go up a lot but like no

[hoary grail]

how do I make it like that? the brainstorm will always copy the leftmost one

[molten thicket]

wdym your order is already correct

[red briar]

how do people get such lucky unseeded runs i will never get it

[frank grove]

your ss is exactly like that

[hoary grail]

oh ok

I just thought this would be correct

[versed sable]

for scoring you want same # of scoring and triggers (or 4/3 or something if you have odd number)
by default a king is 1 trigger, 0 scoring
steel and baron are 1 scoring each, red seal and mime are 1 scoring each
tl;dr 1 more baron than mime, if you're doing red seal steel

[molten thicket]

it is

[hoary grail]

worst thing is, I was just playing a random challenge deck to try to beat and and it went like this

[molten thicket]

shoulda sold

[hoary grail]

I did the deck that limits the chips to money

ngl I don't hate chicot but everyone hates it

[faint linden]

Based

[hoary grail]

oh I forgot to send the new screenshot I got 3 brainstorms and 1 blueprint

[glad smelt]

Will joker-less be harder with 2 negative oops?

[molten thicket]

hes great

[olive stirrup]

Could have photochad

But we're good

[brazen jolt]

lets gamble

[faint linden]

Perkeo will pick one of your consumables at random, so maybe not have two types at once

[frank grove]

if you wanted photo chad you would have to sell hallu and bs

[hoary grail]

is this the correct way now because I can't go 2-2 without two blueprints

[molten thicket]

why would you photochad when you can tribchad

[faint linden]

@teal quarry

[olive stirrup]

Now I have to sell hallu

[versed sable]

what are your cards

[molten thicket]

yeah

[versed sable]

red seal or no, steel or no

[frank grove]

exactly

[frozen tendon]

for banana? why are we selling it

[versed sable]

then yes you're good

[olive stirrup]

Lucky cat bro

[hoary grail]

most red seals, some still random I'm trying to delete those

[frank grove]

i wouldnt sell hallu for luckycat there

[olive stirrup]

For lucky cat

[frozen tendon]

you are on ante 8 with 0 retriggers

[frank grove]

i would've sold hallu for chad though

[molten thicket]

wha

why didnt you take the chad

[brazen jolt]

the gambling did not go well 😭

[olive stirrup]

Why?

I still need deck fixing

[faint linden]

He's a Floridian election worker from 2000

[frank grove]

retriggers is better than like a 3x lucky cat bro, in that scenario

[molten thicket]

chad = retriggers = big number?

[olive stirrup]

Oops I think is not valuable

[molten thicket]

chad is way way WAYYYY better than a retrigless cat

[red briar]

i wonder

how is dying at ante 1-2 a thousand times going to help me get any better

[frank grove]

how are you dying ante 1 on white

like are you just not taking buffoon pack first shop?

[molten thicket]

if you're dying constantly at a1-2 maybe you should switch up your strategy a bit

[red briar]

i'm just real unlucky

[frank grove]

thats not a thing

[echo sphinx]

my goat

[red briar]

i suppose not

[molten thicket]

even with dogshit luck you shouldn't be dying at ante 1-2 on white stake??

[red briar]

then how am i

[wooden sluice]

due to skill issue, probably

[quartz hinge]

Terrible skill

[wooden sluice]

not spending for immediate survival

and then dying to greed

[molten thicket]

i think this is just bcs of skill issue, in lack of a better word

[wooden sluice]

very avoidable when every joker is stickerless

[red briar]

i always spend money when i can if i'm gonna die

[quartz hinge]

White chip Ante 2 boss is clearable with literally nothing purchased

[frank grove]

what was in the shop during this?

[echo sphinx]

bro lived for 2 rounds to be replaced by mailed

[molten thicket]

why though

[wooden sluice]

well, not guaranteed, but you have puchasing power on white

so like

[red briar]

nothing useful

[wooden sluice]

buy literally any scoring

[red briar]

i think it was a cola and something else

[wooden sluice]

what else

[red briar]

no clue

[wooden sluice]

this is guaranteed just skill issue, or lack of appreciation for basic scoring jokers

just bc something isnt baron or mime or smth doesnt mean its not a take early game

[brazen jolt]

bloodstone looks at me like the green goblin mask

[red briar]

this is all i have

[echo sphinx]

man i wish it was

[frank grove]

this can clear the the first two antes easily

[molten thicket]

thats enough for ante 2?

[wooden sluice]

good start, scale dagger

[red briar]

i'll still die to the next antes

[wooden sluice]

no you wont

[frank grove]

thats why there are shops

[molten thicket]

just scale the damn dagger 😭

[frank grove]

to buy more jokers, planet cards, tarots

[molten thicket]

white stake is not that hard

[frozen tendon]

why do i feel bad

[wooden sluice]

literally no jokers are "useless" now since theyre dagger fodder

[red briar]

even if i got dagger the first time i still can't win consistently

[wooden sluice]

idk what to say, its kind of just skill issue

watch balatro university on youtube if u wanna get better

[frozen tendon]

i mean yea

[molten thicket]

i don't like using the word skill issue but theres no other word

[red briar]

i'm on ante 4 right now

[frozen tendon]

idk if spec has a vid on how to get out of ante 1 and 2 ngl

[red briar]

further than most runs get

and i'm about to lose

[wooden sluice]

buy jokers?

[frozen tendon]

damn slow down

[wooden sluice]

feed dagger?

[frozen tendon]

has to be skipping no?

[wooden sluice]

take literally any mult or chips to survive?

[wooden sluice]

never

thats the opposite of what you wanna do

[red briar]

no?

[frozen tendon]

good

[red briar]

i just can't buy anything but basic jokers because i'm flat broke

[frozen tendon]

i just thought you were quick

[frank grove]

https://youtu.be/3P5fzcsuy2Q

[wooden sluice]

so buy the basic jokers!

if you need them to survive

[frozen tendon]

well. dagger sucks unless you get x mult

[molten thicket]

just manage your econ better

[echo sphinx]

breh

[molten thicket]

balance between scaling dagger and saving money

[red briar]

how am i supposed to feed dagger and manage econ

[rancid gull]

That ride the bus is actually amazing

[vestal copper]

oh gg

[frozen tendon]

i'd rather lose a run than scale a bus

[vestal copper]

holo rtb 🔥

[wooden sluice]

feed it enough to survive

[rancid gull]

Bro doesn’t know ball yet

[vestal copper]

[echo sphinx]

no gg but its a bit funny to see

[molten thicket]

you don't need tp pour your life savings out to survive

[echo sphinx]

rtb scaling when photochad

[hoary grail]

new high score

[molten thicket]

let your money build up via interest

[hoary grail]

this took forever

[rancid gull]

Shoot for e80!!!

[cloud sinew]

the ego is crazy

[rancid gull]

You’re doing amazing

[versed sable]

nuh uh

[barren wigeon]

I'd rather scale a bus than lose a run

[molten thicket]

bars

[rancid gull]

You can’t just say nuh uh

[versed sable]

[hoary grail]

how do I even do that, I thought baron mime was the best one and I took this one as far as I could

[frank notch]

i'd rather lose a bus than scale a run

[red briar]

think i'm about to lose yet again

[frozen tendon]

how is me disliking a joker gaining +1 mult per hand played ego?

[molten thicket]

more handsize

[calm sapphire]

Plasma deck

[rancid gull]

More copies of jokers

[barren wigeon]

id rather lose a run than use delayed gratification though

[rancid gull]

Higher hand sizes

[molten thicket]

more baron and mime

[rancid gull]

Sorry copy jokers

[red briar]

yep

[rancid gull]

Delayed gratification is good

[tardy vigil]

Are people finally figuring out that obelisk isn't worthless?

[hoary grail]

more barons more mimes

[red briar]

another lost run ig

[barren wigeon]

I hate delayed gratification.

[rancid gull]

Delayed gratification really helps out actually

[cloud sinew]

you said youd rather lose than use it. that's not just you disliking it, that's ignoring it even when it would otherwise win you the run

[red briar]

i'm never winning white stake red deck off my own skill

[quartz hinge]

because if it can be beat with nothing, then going up to it with purchases trivializes it

[molten thicket]

delgrat is mehhhh

[rancid gull]

It’s not always the most viable ofc, but it’s jumpstarted my Econ many times

Especially if you have grimbo

[tardy vigil]

Cute pfp

[night turret]

Should I rip the wraith? I have a temp?

[molten thicket]

yeah but spending just a tiny bit can help you clear in less hands (mostly 1shotting on ws)

[rancid gull]

Thank you!

[tardy vigil]

Yours too

[molten thicket]

and so spending that little bit of money really helps your econ

[frozen tendon]

if i had $3 ante 1 big blind i'd sell it for $2 for interest

[quartz hinge]

missing the point of what I'm saying here but yes agreed

[cloud sinew]

then you're a bad player

[calm sapphire]

lilo knows her shit

[rancid gull]

Bro would give up an amazing scaling joker for 1 buck of interest

[barren wigeon]

truth nuke

[frank grove]

Yeah its wild to give up bus for an extra dollar

[cosmic sun]

can you fellas learn instead of making tel aviv plays

[molten thicket]

jesus at least sugarcoat it a bit

[vestal copper]

bus is just meta

[cosmic sun]

🦅

[cloud sinew]

also it sells for $3

[red briar]

shocking

[frozen tendon]

i don't like bus

[cloud sinew]

spoilers twin

[barren wigeon]

SPOILERS WTF

[frozen tendon]

any other scale joker i'll take

[rancid gull]

This is literally a goated combo

[rare sequoia]

oops

❤️

[molten thicket]

HOW DID YOU ALREADY DIE

[frank grove]

this is a great first shop what??

[barren wigeon]

do i think rtb is the least fun scaling mult joker to use? yeah kinda, but its undoubtedly a great joker

[night turret]

Thoughts?

[cloud sinew]

taking these two lets you live through ante 3

[molten thicket]

nahhhh

[red briar]

don't worry i'll find a way to die by ante 3

[rancid gull]

You got chips and mult

[cosmic sun]

@frozen tendon what hands do you play

[cloud sinew]

the only reason you wouldnt is if wall a3 or psychic a2/a3

[rancid gull]

Those are two really good first shop pulls

[gentle basalt]

Um, i think least fun is definitely grimbo

[night turret]

I was just thinking getting rid of Chad

[rancid gull]

You’ll one shot and jumpstart your economy

[night turret]

Rare might be goon.

[gentle basalt]

I dont mind losing face cards at all

[barren wigeon]

I prefer grimbo

[red briar]

it won't matter in the end

[frank grove]

rtb just means dont play faces it just scales as you play you almost dont really have to think that much about it

[molten thicket]

ehhyou have $50

[gentle basalt]

But worst scaling is supernova, its pretty hard to scale up as effectively as the others since you are forced to play your best hand

[barren wigeon]

My ranking is Supernova, Red Card, Pants, Grimbo, RTB

[frozen tendon]

depends on stake

[barren wigeon]

i like supernova the most because its polychrome is cool

[gentle basalt]

Best to worst?

[cosmic sun]

I wonder why Grimbo is unfun for people

[barren wigeon]

yes

[cosmic sun]

The discard restriction is more like a guideline

[cloud sinew]

trousers > red > bus > green > nova

[frank grove]

crazy to put supernova first over red card and pants

[gentle basalt]

Pants, red card, ride the bus, supernova, grimbo for me

[night turret]

I guess you right

[gentle basalt]

Wow, nearly same

[cosmic sun]

Like most Grimbos go past 40 anyhow

[cloud sinew]

supernova is the worst because it can be perishable, scales slower, and is hard countered by Eye

[rancid gull]

Don’t be doomer silly goose

[barren wigeon]

ok but polychrome supernova

[molten thicket]

rtb is prob the scaler i dislike most since im so scared of accidentally crashing it

[barren wigeon]

checkmate

[cosmic sun]

And by that time your grimbo is really high and you likely have xmult so discard away

[gentle basalt]

Yeah agreed it is indeed the worst, but grimbo is still lesser fun personally

[cosmic sun]

Okay do you play pairs

[molten thicket]

true..

[frozen tendon]

weird, so many people dislike rtb

[cloud sinew]

because you need to pay attention

[cosmic sun]

yeah cause they are tel aviv players

🦅

[frank grove]

i just almost never play faces anywya

[cloud sinew]

it's the fastest and least restrictive +1 per hand scaler, but people care too much about face cards and don't pay enough attention.

[robust fiber]

My best run after hundreds of hours

[rancid gull]

Ride the bus and odd Todd combo

Yummy yummy

[molten thicket]

its good its just the one that makes me sit on the edge of the seat most

[frank notch]

rtb has insane synergy with abandoned deck (obviously)

[frozen tendon]

it is just the worst scale joker imo, that is all, doesn't make me mad for thinking that 💀

[cloud sinew]

you can play faces, you just can't score them

[rancid gull]

Yeah!!!

[cloud sinew]

how is it the worst

[gentle basalt]

Why is it the worst

[frank grove]

How is it the worst?

[cosmic sun]

no one can explain why its bad without exposing their lack of knowledge

[cloud sinew]

if you cant justify your opinion with reasons beyond "i dont like it" then im not listening to you

[rancid gull]

You can play a pair throwing away face cards

[frank grove]

I understand that it removes a lot of fun stuff like midas vampire

[gentle basalt]

Supernova, grimbo all have more severe disadvantages

[rancid gull]

Face cards will
Never be an issue

Unless if you’re doing 15 minute city

[molten thicket]

my dumbass will throw a run someday and that knowledge makes me nervous all the time

[hasty harness]

11 hands

and only one

[cosmic sun]

I saw someone trying to force a vamp midas run today

[hasty harness]

bean hit

[rancid gull]

Wanna know a secret?

[hasty harness]

:/

[barren wigeon]

is rtb the worst? maybe not. but does it have the least cool polychrome? yes.

[molten thicket]

ill still take it if i see one though

[frank notch]

i ankhed a michael and they both went extinct on the same round

[rancid gull]

I will tell you a secret

[hasty harness]

11 hands and ONE bean hit

:///

[red briar]

i think i'm throwing alredy

another red deck run lost

[molten thicket]

its not like i actively avoid it

[cosmic sun]

bus is kinda bad guys...

[rancid gull]

If you accidentally score a face card, before finishing the scoring. Go to main menu and reload back into the run

It won’t have scored yet

Save scum

[molten thicket]

hmmm

[rancid gull]

If you accidentally mess it up

[cloud sinew]

photo not in your top 10 is a huge green flag

[frank grove]

I hate save scumming but it does work for that

[calm furnace]

finding obelisk on runner runs is next level if crazy

[molten thicket]

yeah but savescumming is kinda scummy

ba dum tss

[rancid gull]

It’s a single player game

Play however you want

[gentle basalt]

Dude that isnt even that unlikely

[rancid gull]

But, if you need it

It’s there

[gentle basalt]

The expectation is 2.2

[frank grove]

Yeah it is a good clutch

[molten thicket]

yea

[maiden peak]

Space joker activated twice in a row without dice

[hasty harness]

it's 1/4 everytime

[cosmic sun]

Always bet on the goat

[rancid gull]

Worlds luckiest man/woman

[gentle basalt]

If every time it was random of all 5, instead of random from non chosen 4, it woukd be 23% probability to hit only once

[red briar]

ante 5 with no xmult

[molten thicket]

cursing you with all needles and violet vessels

[rancid gull]

If u made it to ante 5, you should be fine still with your chip and mult scaling

You still have time

[red briar]

i'm about to lose the next blind

[rancid gull]

What’s your hand levels

What jokers do you have

How much do you score per hand

[red briar]

i score like 6k per hand maybe

[rancid gull]

What’s the next blind requirement

[gentle basalt]

Are you aware its a 15% chance for exactly 1 out of 11 1 in 4 to hit?

Complaining of 15% is wild to me

[red briar]

16.5k

[frank notch]

1/4 is 25%

[rancid gull]

You’re okay!

Even if you’re playing black deck

You’ll score enough

[red briar]

i have sly, half, and ride the bus

[molten thicket]

basically ggs

[red briar]

not really

i'm gonna lose at some point

[brittle smelt]

Does anyone have any recommendations for this naneinf run or am I cooked?

[red briar]

before ante 8 i suppose

[rancid gull]

No more doomer

I will not take that

Believe in yourself jugger

[cloud sinew]

stop expecting yourself to lose and fight to win

[red briar]

bud

[molten thicket]

damn youre kinda cooked

[cosmic sun]

Ante 5 = start finding xmult

[fervent wolf]

I always get Canio when I get ante 1 red card lol

[red briar]

my luck won't allow this

[cloud sinew]

luck has very little to do with it

[molten thicket]

wait no you're not cooked at all

[rancid gull]

It’s not about luck tbh, you can make good plays

Balatro is awesome because you can take the luck out of it

[cosmic sun]

If no xmult then you buy to survive while keeping enough money to reroll for xmult

[ebon condor]

well