#🕹・game-discussion
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nah its calculated trust
mrrrrph :3
man wtf is nanimph
its getting 1.8 with 308 zeros
how was it btw
never got the chance
schools kicking my ass harder than gold stake black deck forced rental
understandable
thats called naneinf
Burglar gaming
Do I sell Burnt Joker here….? Feel like it’s Perkeo/Trib or bust, and Burnt is already killing it with Brain Storm
Solo leveling
Does this game want me to win?
Everything aside from Throwback and Credit Card were natural.
Why would u take throwback
It was good at the time.
I had Misprint and Mystic Summit before getting all the good stuff.
Why wouldn’t you. It has +10
this had the potential of being a fun photo run but now sticking with grimbo is optimal
sad
gg
Yeah, but why commit to it 
I h a v e n o s p a c e.
…..you don’t have to?
Of course not
Round 8, ante 5
+10, maybe nothing better came up
He said that he had it from early
do i double brain storm or
ts took so long
Yeah. +10 early on is super useful. Still not seeing why you wouldn’t take it then keep it until something better (like brain storm) comes along.
Wheel of Fortune baby!
But he started skipping to scale throwback
why does this game make me choose between my 2 besties. thats so cruel
Could kill you! Also DNA is awesome. But go for what you’re feeling
Mediu%
idk what im doing im playing anaglyph for fun cause i keep losing my hex deck runs whatd the most fun method?
That's Anaglyph deck for you.
Gotta skip from time to time.
I don't know why I was worried to be honest.
You don't need to skip THAT much
Still not seeing the issue
Skipped 9 times, that's way too much
should i just medium and keep dna flame brainstorm?
medium dna
maybe it was just good tags
easy game
Most fun for what? If you find a rly good card, you can use Brainstorm on DNA and get double that card every round. A double brain storm could be really good too, but no guarantee you’ll get a card as good as DNA
no such thing
okie ty
hahaa that's what i'm talking about
Skipping its almost never good
i already won the lottery this run i used by my double tag on rare jokers and got brainstorm flame with dna in the shop before
M o n e y.
9 is a lot, but also. He won lol
I love a good well timed skip
Yeah, but i'm talking about that you don't have to commit to the first joker you see
In this case, throwback
I once got a Hologram and about 8 double tags.
I got a Mega Standard Pack after.
The first joker I got this run was Misprint.
tower, temperance
I got Throwback later.
Love it
Well, the early jokers you get, not literally the first
I hate Throwback
hey atleast they recognize that suit tarots aren't all that
Or, just play however you want and have fun
F u n m o n e y
It'll be fun when it isn't throwback

At least buff throwback to x0.5 per round skipped
is voucher and chad better or pack chad seltzer and sell burnt
i hope this never happens
if throwback runs are viable the game just becomes infinitely more boring once you get it
Voucher and chad
ty
also if i already have level 9 high card should i try for a high card run?
Probably
Burnt joker is really strong
Even better with brainstorm or blueprint
only way for me to do high card i know is mime baron king spam
im also terrible at deck fixing
You don't need to do baron mime
ok ill be back for help in a few blinds whne i need help again
Not everything in Balatro is about synergy
also is it good or bad that half my ghost deck runs i dont use hex
yes
massive temperance value
There's people that sell hex at the start for extra interest
It doesn't really matter
okie
It really depends on what you get
uhm also should i just go queen of hearts for my deck i have like 5 already from having to dna to stay alive cause idk what im doing
Like you get a good eternal? Then hex it, but if you just need the money? Sell it
Show your deck
base deck with 3 extra queen of hearts and one jack of hearts with purple seal
my wifi sucks will take like a minute to load ss
do you have shoot the moon or something
no im in ante 3 and dont know what im doing
rip looked like a fun run though
It def was, I was barely getting by
Was scoring like 4k more then needed every time
i think i should be going high card cause i got brain storm flame on ante 2 but idk how to play highcard
i trolled my favorite run so far by greeding
I think this baron is bait
ok i try but im noob i only know how to play flushes and flush five pivot if no die
High card + half joker is BUSTED
Ethereal pair build
i got sidetracked i need help deciding again
fuck you showman.
let's goooooo
does brainstorm work with certificate
yes
ok blue because im playing pairs or blue because blue
blue
k
🦅
what does the red seal even do for you here
idk
idk what im doing but i got a negative oops all 6s
Fuuuck we’re so fucking fuckeddd
this is so peak
this pfp is insane lmao
bro made a whole new run while im like 2 antes further in
negative oops though
shouldve brought the sun as well
true
Grace looks like she has strong opinions on Bloodstone
bean carry
mime try not to be goated challenge
Grace looks like she spends 5 hours arguing about gold stake balatro
#fuckvioletvessel
should i sell my certificate since i got my blue seals and buy sell cola for another double tag?
showman carry featuring bean and mime
let's see
you will win before i reach ante 6 trust
just felt like doing it
good game good game
nice
(i changed some placements later)
ok i don't see how i lose now gg
if im winning blinds and have no use for one of my jokers do i sell it for a rocket?
got me 3 billion once which is the highest number i got so far
still lost miserably shortly later
this is the equivalent of bringing a rocket launcher to a paintball match
but just for funs sake how much can you overkill vv
does madness go
im pretty sure madness alone can already win runs pre black stake
since scaling is much more lenient
ive saved 5 skip tags looking for a econ skip and i havent found one
help (i cant for the life of me deck fix wild)
im thinking of picking up chad for smiley but idk
maybe pants instead of smiley for chad
since its added after all ancient xmults trigger
maybe chad instead of pants
its at +38 if that affects anything
actually, the foil from pants is carrying hard
ye
what's your flush mult at
im like half sure even 3 levels is strong enough to remove pants
yeahh its at lvl 4 rn
how many 6 is to many 6
Yo fellas does anyone know if DNA triggers hologram?
yes
Sweet thanks
dna, certificate, and marble joker do trigger hologram
how does one fix this deck
death on purple seal
DUDE poly obelisk
using death on purple seal is like causing a plague
because there will be more death
out of curiosity is rocket or foil business card better if i have a oops all 6 negative
Gonna be 1665 up in here
def foil business card
ok
should i be brainstorming for money or mult cause i have like no mult
rn i do brainstorm burnt then dna then mult when i score
and i found faceless
i love you all
if i have 6 doubles should i skip to get the next shop all rerolls start at 0? im rerolling alot
and have no reroll vouchers
double tags on d6 is really strong yeah
ok ty
what i do here
so four dollars or an extra 18 mult
sorry for spam is half joker better or abstract joker for playing pairs i think its abstract cause of card cycling to alwyas have a pair
half joker
ok ty
if you have a blue seal, abstract is better
should i sell for a hologram since im dna spamming?
and know i can buy sock
That one challenge deck type beat
Wait nvm
idk what ur referncing but hi
Hey so what happens if you have an eternal food joker?
you can't have one
they're exempt from eternal tags because of their gimmick
the only exception is egg because it doesn't have a self destruct mechanic or explicitely need you to sell it to benefit from it
what do i replace
should I sell anything for showman
show ur deck and lvls
do u need ancient joker to survive?
for right now as it helps with base mult
i mean, what can i say
except, youre welcome
anyway poor guy
im guessing you scored like 1.2 million
what do i replace with blueprint?
3.432.694.542
what was ur flush five level?
you don't do flush five with mime build
oh what was ur high card level?
level 47 pair
nice
clear your plate bro
W showman
also what should i be removing to buy blueprint?
get a job
already have one lil bro
both on aj
Showman carrying
what do i replace
Oh welp the run is chopped
I hate Bloodstone
i love hrt
Well I hate it
I love bloodstone
As you can see here
high card only win
transphobic smh my head
Yea ggs
never skip for anything except investment tag ante 1
skipping on plasma is also particularly bad because your early game is already so easy and you're not taking advantage of that by skipping
i think all on yorick is worth it when its 8x
unless you have red seals
ante 1 rare tag in plasma ☝️
they did that
twice
and look at where it got them
i sometimes skip for ante 1 coupon tag
yeah thats the strat if you wanna get a quick and dirty plasma win
coupon tag is garbage in gold stake
it's not really quick when you have a 1 in 20 chance of hitting wee jonkler
TRIBE
i remember someone doing math and something about it strictly better to skip small blind for coupon tag than playing it
stuntman doesn't win the game on the spot like a lot of people think it does
they did get brainstorm which again is useless
it doesnt but it gets you through like 4 antes
@charred sierra
It was a double skip of a rare joker, I always take em
rare tag isnt an auto win but it makes the early game a lot easier
thats why a lot of speedrunners reset for a rare tag in plasma
you cant say "rare tag bad" why "they didnt win these 2 runs"
when you cut your hand off with a kitchen knife do you complain about how you're now bleeding and need emergency care
speedrunning is a different context though
EV for round 1 skip is $5, at the cost of a slightly scarier ante 1
EV for no skip is a bit less than $3 and a shop
I think taking the shop is correct?
???
that was never the point of contention
we care about winning ante 8 gs runs
im saying top players for the game reroll for rare tags in the early game
its optimal
rare or investment
speedrunners still have to beat ante 8
speedrunning you want a great start
imo the top players are winstreaking, not speedrunning
but for normal play you take good enough starts
if the goal is to just win a run i dont see why not skip with rare
for winstreaking yeah thats diff
citation needed
if the goal is to win a run, just reroll until investment right?
most rares need setup is the problem i think
investment tag is universally agreed to be the only good tag in ante 1
a campfire is no good when you have no money to feed it
who even speedruns on gold stake
like sure if i got a free obelisk at the start im taking it but
speedrunning is barely a thing to begin with afaik
Ello balala chat
hi what's the discussion about
some guy saying rare skips ante 1 is a good idea
Eww
you'll win more often if you learn how to actually play the game instead of just holding r until you get some god seed
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well speedrunning isn't the main part of the game
The same channel does gold streaks btw
for you to beat the game fast you need to get a highroll
and rare tags are THE highroll tag
You know, the thing that you can't reroll for
a lot of people?
they're inconsistent in actual games
Otherwise it resets the streak
speedrunning is a different context is it not
Huh
most people here talk about regular gold stske gameplay
if youre trying to win a run and top players are doing it then why not
again for streaking its different
well top speedrunners are doing it because it helps them win faster
it just makes the game easier
not necessarily faster
easier = faster bc less decisions
winning fast isn't something most gold stake players necessarily want
@deft sandal I triggered crimson bean bug yet I still fucking died
there's a reason why balatro university isn't particularly known for being a great speedrunner

sure i guess if the context is c+ or just trying to win one tonight before you do sth else. after a while it gets boring no?
which i'm sure he is but that's not what most people are interested in
well sure
in general chances for high rolling in speedruns is basically always done since thats how you get to the limit
well given that you increase how much you need to score early on and the fact that the tag can give you an unhelpful eternal rental like baron which you can't even sell
I think streaks are more standard
it ends up making you need more resources overall
but yeah, suggesting speedrunner tactics to a guy trying to win is not really a great idea
just reset
which makes the game ststistically harder
so basically forfeit the run which results in a loss
and?
I cant even naneinf anymore
that's like me playing celeste and telling some random guy to learn chained ultras and cornerboosts to finish the base game because that's what i do as a speedrunner
which means it's less consistent
Im washed
okay
if the plan is to only win one run then i can say anything
i wasnt talking about win streaking
and consistency is the thing that matters for high stakes
like i can full skip the entire gold stake with black deck and win because of throwback shenanigans
is THAT optimal? hell no
No but like I have never heard resetting being a standard for anything
if you just want to win once don't take the rare tag either because you're better off with the money and the extra shop
gonna bring this up again
yes
i was not talking about getting better at the game or getting better at gold stake
just strictly for winning a run on plasma rare tag is good
there are like 4 rares that are more helpful than commons if you get them before ante 3/4
and we're telling you that it's not
are you the guy on reddit that said they do c++ with plasma rare tags because wee jonkler makes the game easy
thats a lot of resetting for one wee. is it really faster than learning how to play with suboptimal starts?
no i got c++ normally
you're statistically likelier to be better off playing the round and taking the shop
My first C+ plasma I just unknowingly did all chips
or just reset
is there really a contextual difference between wanting to win 1 gold stake and being as consistent as possible in winning gold stakes
if the goal is to win a run
which is a loss
And then I've been doing xmult pivots on other platforms
and therefor doesn't help you win
i think my first plasma win was some perkeo observatory bullshit i pulled in like ante 4
well yeah getting better at gold stake is better
had the perfect htr run!
thats more fun
i love hrt
sup i just tabbed in
hi we're having the average rare tag discussion
just y'know
minus the htr
I hate Bloodstone
I did C++ gimmickless, just pick the deck you like and be consistent.
both valid playstyles but highrolling is not really fulfilling after a while imo. the game is solved if you hit r at any sign of trouble
Another highroll argument I've seen is "anaglyph is good for stickers" and I'm like hell naw
if you dont losses then the game is solved 👍
it feels better to barely get through a tough seed than to reset for a broken build
i used it for whenever i was starting to get stickers and i could afford to skip
otherwise i think ghost is better
i was forced to crash my bus and pivot towards photochad red seal lmao
one secret trick THEY dont want YOu to know to never reach game over
anaglyph is good for stickering early on
i like running magic deck because double fools are cool
yeah
Ghost for the power of spectrals
ay 🤝
i'm doing a full painted deck c++ profile
ghost for wraith and ectoplasm
Mogs anaglyph already
because painted is the only one of the harder decks that i like playing
double fool is really cool i agree
i think both are valid
you use double fool because of devil
i use double fool because of judgement
Anaglyph more gimmicky tbh
you like money and i like gambling and thats okay 👍
double lovers or bust
I think the people who argue for it for stickering just think they'll always get their sticker joker from tags
Oh yeah Painted stickering sounds like hell
it really isnt imo
It's technically slower
nebula deck is my opp
Mind you I did it all on blue
i think my braincells exploded
1 less slot most of the time to get an extra sticker in on painted
dat flush splash synergy 💦
I hate Bloodstone
ok they're kinda slow, but i'm 100% sure they will realize it sooner
or layer
later
its for speculative 4fingers :copium:
that stm dont look nat negative
its for the obelisk transition
just won with this setup few hours ago
to be fair thats the least bloodstone can do
no you didnt
what are the odds of 0 hits per 5 card hand here
photoshopped image
1/32
survivor bias screenshot
there are 3 bloodstones and a chad
🦅
1/2^(7*3)
Bull.
does brainstorm do that normally or is that a mod
mod
no xmult gameplay
casual +480 chips
top 10 erosions
20 mult from erosion putting in work
could you win a non-plasma gold stake run without using any xmult type
S6HZ88N8, magic deck gold stake
i beat this seed without xmult
wouldnt this be jokerless but easier
no xmult jokers or just no xmult at all
no xmult at all
because im talking no glass and steel
oh wait jokerless has glass cards
not even glass retrigger
right
do you have a picture of the final setup
really curious
didn't save
smile with single tear
i dont think its possible tbh
i also have this one
ahhh okay that makes sense
did you take money skips by any chance there
it's different seed
nope you didnt
yes i only saw the round counter now
unless you took hieroglyphs and skipped
the one before i just had supernova, grimbo, square and burglar
that is hella stupid
here, win
something like 600 chip 120 mult ig. lots of planets money and bootstrap/bull?
The two paths of endless
youre at ante 11 you did not fail
here, win
😭
buy and sell todd trust
I'm jimboing it
I wish to see Naneif 😄
gonna go off now
Wow bull and bootstraps
googone joker- removes 1 joker sticker. destroyed when used
🤨
Guys, do we think the stickers are the good smelling scratchy kind, the good smooth acrylic kind, or the cheap, hard to peel don't stick very well paper ones
the ones that look like theyre going to come off cleanly but they leave a little piece of goo at the end
Oooh I can see that
Btw question for y'all, these a good buy or no?
im a sucker for mesh. cop
ask off topic
looks kinda like a gros michel to me
totally a bootstrap reference
hell naw get the ultraboost 1.0s
Wuzzat
new shoes in buffoon pack
what
They're nice but I really want a pair of mesh/rubber shoes
sneakerhead: +23 mult. resets money to $0 at the end of every round
Rn I have some ugly ahh Nikes
Nah sneakerhead: gains +5 mult for each joker but every round they all have a 1/10 chance of getting destroyed and a 1/5 chance of getting debuffed for the next round
☹️
Jeez I just like rare tags man
stockholm syndrome
Skipping very potty unless reroll or investment
I hate that I can't post freaking gifs here
I had the perfect blueprint gif
Do you even know what that means

Send it to me
Lowk this dude who kidnapped me is kinda a baddie, might let him keep me
He has ohh shiny syndrome
🗝️ & 🍌
Question, own balatro on mobile. Bought it on another phone a while ago. Recently bought a new google pixel 9, but google play says balatro isn't available for my device. How can i get it
🏴☠️
Yarghhh
Hmm
Also what was your previous phone
S21 fe
Lol thought about it, but idk whats safe
It should transfer fine, try going to your Google play settings and refreshing your purchase history
Little research and its easy to find a safe link, plus if you download one that's bad 99/100 times your phone will just become a bit slow until you delete it
Thinking of pulling the apk off my phone onto my laptop and putting it on the pixel
That would also work
But I've never had a pixel so what do I know
Went from a s21+ to a iPhone XR to a base s25
Lol went right back to android
Absolutely
Android master race
I didn't choose the iPhone, my s21 took a dive in a pool
And the iPhone was actually awful, I hate not having modded discord, modded yt, modded music, modded insta, modded million other things
revanced?
Indeed
Let's see how this goes
Although for insta I use instafel
Money
nooooo my money will be gone
boing
I wanna be a joker
cant help ya

:3
Gimme
cant take mah moneh if i have none to take from
i never thought stuntman would have real value until i played plasma deck
that changed my life
stuntman has a place in a lot of lobotomy runs tbh
the raw scoring is hella strong if your hand only has 50 chipz
stuntman goes insane with those damn grimbo builds
stuntman/square and grimbo + cavendish/card sharp/hologram if you want endless
oh my lord
most braindead lobotomite build
stuntman has real value on every deck
i realized that after i played plasma
it’s a near instant take if i’m playing pairs now
scaling chips besides like bull with an econ can’t really reasonably catch up to it before endless begins
unless you like
super greed
idk
Joker Idea: Masquerade Party
Uncommon
transfer the seal, enhancement or edition of your first scored card this round to your last scored card
Thoughts?
you died on the boss or after the boss?
violet vessel is slowly becoming my favorite boss
when i play flushes i ironically rely on card scoring more, meaning verdant leaf or crimson or even bell are more problematic
rare joker skip tag gave me brainstorm but i have no idea what to use it with
open buffoon pack to find something to copy
i got hologram
and died
im going to do this run on ghost deck
yeah i mean
not a good joker to find shop 1
since it does nothing that early
Well that's unfortunate
not your fault HAHA
i got odd todd because i have like nothing to dupe
why not?
you have credit card
which allows you to go -20
selling drunkard puts you at -7
Only for genius
which means you can buy brainstorm for 10, putting you at -$17
WAIT
ITS $18
WTF
OK I SEE
i thought it said $10
i understand
well good thing you don’t need the brainstorm!
heh
blueprint + ancient is probably just enough
that skip tag is calling to me like the green goblin mask
Just kinda hope I have some budget to level up my Jupiters a bit
yeah that’s all you really need
some kind of base mult
whether that’s an empress card or even glass
too risky
it was worth a shot
11 WS ON GS WHAT
(unless necessary)
i recommend not because it can hit odd todd AND it’s super expensive AND you’d need to save money for voucher to offset the hand size damage
Y'all think this is good to take or nah
my 11 winstreak ended with the goofiest thing imaginable
3 ws on gold stake is unbelievable let alone 11 holy shit
LOOLLL
i can’t even remember how my 11th streak ended
Inflation
i opened a tarot pack, got the emperor and used nothing else, got a useless card for my deck, then got a wheel of fortune which failed
Nah just ancient till the end
damn
fuck my chud life
y'all god level wtf
[and i don’t play pairs :]
NAHHH you play the game long enough and it kinda just happens
win streaks
ig
Holy peak
$19 astronomer..
show jokers
i really have no idea how that happened
lmao
chad BEEN working without photo
can i see yours
Someday AJ will be top 1
my winstreak exclusive stat
pair gaming?
yep
bro the drastic difference between our jokers is crazy
how tf is abstract my second most picked joker
sometimes i go 4oak with vagabond/trading card hallu but that's it
i also do mime fist steel sometimes
yeaaa
i mean i do everything
depending on what i’m offered
unless vagabond
then i can do whatever i want
rather than what the game gives me
vagabond allows you to play literally any hand type you want
high card steel or flush five glass steel…
both of which win without jokers
Massive Tarot generation
yum..
my favorite rare is vagabond
my favorite uncommon is cartomancer
my favorite common is halu
my favorite deck is magic deck
am i cooked?
NO YOURE NOT COOKED
BECAUSE
i just died
THATS MY FAVORITE RARE TOO
favorite uncommon?
carto maybe not..
there’s a lot of uncommons
BUT YES HALLUCINATION FAVORITE COMMON TOO
bl**dstone?
you caught me..
my favorite joker is the ones that do nothing
ew
then again the highs are like AJ but the lows..
also, my favorite legendary is perkeo
My fav joker is fibbonachi
bean, trading card, cartomancer, rough gem, onyx, and arrowhead all kinda are competing for my favorite uncommon
dice too
mine is chicot
Good one
chigoat
wasted my skip tag on this shit
Splash time
no dw we were joking, everybody universally hates bloodstone
straight time
I FUCKING GOT SPLASH IN THE BUFFOON PACK
Enjoy
I hate bloodstone
YOOOO
Why bloodstone has 1/2 chances
now just find some flat mult and chips (splash is your chips on the short term)
and you win!!!!
it works
Nah I have seen some loving it and hating on AJ
Aj is good with chad
bloodstone is genuinely useless
because no matter what you’re missing a club or diamond
AY
Smh not chigoat
That's funny
Challenge?
me encanta baraja anaglifo jaja
there should be a gold stake emote

All I want for Christmas is..
3 card sharps
5 stencils
where is the true flush joker emote AJ 🥀
5 neg stencils


u might need to get that ccard out
even more
skip skip skip skip skip skip skip skip
"skipping is bad" they said
me when anaglyph
real
but it is bad for winstreaks 😉
hit that throwback
throwback to 39x lets go
Hell to this challenge
i guess we just doing only red jokers now
Whenever i hit ante 25 burglar disappears from shop ffs
my best run yet with only 14 hours on record
goated riff raff
has anyone noticed the ice cream uses the joker hat color scheme?
dude I just now realized that
what flavor is the yellow one
pineapple
physical gag
what would be a better fit? Lemon?
Alright I need to know, is the invisible able to he taken here? If so what do I sell for it
wait what ???? 😭
Seltzer on gold finally
i have splash happy face photo chad and blueprint do i need to bother rerolling this guy
Depends on what your scoring is and if you're comfortable living and dying by that Crimson Heart picks to debuff
If it's splash or happy face it's fine probably
yeah i guess i'll just bank on this
Also what hand are you playing?
pairs
turns out i didnt even need blueprint because red seal king + 2 glass cards was enough
splash is surprisingly useful
splash is underrated
Should i be worried?
you should be happy
Am I trading rn?
This was fun 🫠
sheer skill
5 antes to go. surely youll find the other 3 to complete the collection
and who says pair builds only ever score just enough to win 🙄
I sold canio for a soul card...and got canio AGAIN
I‘m thinking about taking the ancient but i never know how to get it online
free 10 bucks :copium:
retriggers
win
you have until ante 3 i think to get it online anywag
Yeah you right ok i try it
lovers too mid
wen abstinence tarot?
temperance kinda
And I don’t know why I do it but every time I lose i go a stake down and if i win i go a stake up (beginning from white)
hey temperance can just mean restraint in general so my point stands
brilliant. means when drunk or tilting, youll still eventually win one. like elo rating for balatro
A bit yeah
And i will do it on every deck this way all the way to gold 😅
(I never got past orange)
ya orange is hard. learning to pivot took me hours
"wdym the cornerpiece to my strategy is gone permanently"
simply dont make it your cornerpiece
wish i was smart enough to learn that 2 or 3 games in 😅
admittedly learning new gold stake is not nearly as bad as learning old gold stake
that shit took me im not kidding like 60 runs for my first win
i heard you basically couldnt buy anything
pretty much
Shit had me tweaking as I would've killed for a Perkeo
may i tempt you with a $10 celestial pack?
was old gold this bad
yes
ik it had -1 hand size
No I'm broke
aka pair slop central
neptune earth venus
multitude of reasons
-1 handsize makes even pair not super consistent for one
blue seals werent op yet, so that strategy wasnt super effective
if you have drunkard[?] before the fact it just reverses those effects
that still takes a joker slot
and it was pretty much forced chips + scaling mult + 3 xmult
ahh
😮
so basically once you find the joker, youre playing painted but with +0 hand size
wonderful
as many issues the current meta has, at least you CAN choose not to play it and be somewhat effective
high card was pretty much forced every single run on old gold stake
what else is wrong with current meta
besides 🍐 and rebate
i mean yeah its mainly how excessively strong pairs are rn
and how that generally creates pretty uninteresting gameplay
yeah i think things will be slightly better once blue stake is reworked but it wont solve everything
all fun and games until pair builds get changed for the worse permanently
1.1 soon i hope
and pair gets ruined too :D
itll open up gold stake for sure, but its unlikely to dethrone pair
"ruined" except the game becomes more interesting
yeah pairs will still be more consistant
also you cant ruin pairs cause they just are there all the time
the issue is that the nature of any form of unconditional value will always be better on the hand you can play the most
yeah
you can make them scale worse with planets and joker vals
that will make the game harder wont really make higher hands better
give pairs hc scaling :clueless:
so that even with planets and econ you die occasionally
lmao?
cause making scalers scale slower hurts other hands more than pairs
so literally every single mult, chips, and xmult with little to no condition will always be best with pairs
unless you somehow make deckfixing substantially easier
ex. how would nerfing mercury hurt other hands more than pairs?
the second issue is that on-score value is always going to be inconsistent
mercury nerf would hurt pairs but thats not the only reason pairs are good with scaling jokers
even if you put it down to 10 chips it wouldnt change much at all
and the game actively disincentivizes it with the boss blinds
further leading you to play pairs
the problem is that the way that the game is built naturally leads to low hands being the strongest hands
the game is just fundamentally broken ig 😭
pairs are just the ol' reliable here
unless things are majorly reworked thats likely going to still be the case
yeah
mm wouldnt go so far. its still pretty fun
i think there will be more interesting fun jokers to play around that dont really work with pairs hopefully
are there literally no balanced games that exist
if its balanced fundamentally we WILL find a way to break it HAHAH
every strategy game develops dominant metas that only shift when patches happen
like imagine if pairs get shifted we'd switch to hc because that's the next best thing
you can always draw a high card
what if default hand size was 9?
that would do something
such as?
make 3oak the default
makes it more like painted
but i think increasing default hand size would make decisions in the game that used to be actual decisions just not really decisions anymore
"but there's a joker for that" atp there's a joker for everything
ecto/stuntman/troub would prob need adjustments ya
yeah stuntman is the thing
stuntman -3 handsize +300chip
1st april update that removes pairs and hcs as a valid hand types :clue:
natural negative burnt joker helped me get some crazy flush five levels
i have no idea what the hell is going on but its winning right now
would never happen xD
would make for a funny challenge deck though
blocking the top 2 hand types per your planet stats
and forcing you to pivot
ooh i like this. "death star blew up mercury"
but of course with all games you gotta think how it would be implemented into code first 🥀
thunk can build it. doesnt sound that complicated
I don't know anything about coding so
yeah it wouldnt take too long at all
would be cool if that also banned your top 10 most played jokers as well
what would such a challenge be called?
ooooo
not my rebate 😭
rebate enjoyers staring at golden knowing it's their only good option
eternal rental biz card only option
HAHAHA
eternal rental
:clue:
bro got clocked immediately LMAO
i remember picking it up once
got 2 luchadors and killed both plant and eye
to this day I've never picked it up
showman?
so uh.....
nope
LMAO
just 2
yep there goes your whole run
unwinnable
i can do vagabond build tho
who needs scaling mult 🤷
fist carries
can't believe squoker gets recognition here 🤮 /j
succumbed to lobotomy 😔
lobotomy and fist stm steel are the reason why i can winstreak
ooh wait but I don't see dagger OP might have a chance
maybe hallu too in case of 3oak
but dagger is like a high maintenance girlfriend
your wallet will always be struggling
it's fine
dagger midas mask
can do
worst part of a dagger is when all of the jokers on shop are eternal
depends on the stake [I've only done white so far]
i'm fine with not using these except hallu
not being able to use hallu at all sounds like a nightmare
prayge for cart
i asked a classmate who can read tarots and apparently the tarot effects in balatro do not have a connection with their actual meanings 🥲
probably just more connected to the images shown
i should go to a tarot reading and during the sesh, start mumbling about gros michel going extinct
Doing a pair build what should I sell


