🕹・game-discussion

[exotic silo]

eh it's probably like x2 with pairs but I mean, two photos and chad is x64 so yeah

[fringe nebula]

then use death on blue or purple

anything to maximize perkeo's potential

[lofty vault]

I'm getting 0 seals or deaths

I got a hermit

And I used the hermit to buy discard voucher cuz I swapped cleaver for banner

Clever

Do I burn everything to the ground for stencil

[shell dagger]

No

[onyx locust]

Glass kings run

[fossil torrent]

always

joker stencil is the single best joker ever

smiles

[onyx locust]

Really?

[fossil torrent]

its up to you but if you choose any joker thats not stencil then its an issue 🙂

[onyx locust]

Debt card

[fossil torrent]

shh

no

[onyx locust]

I think the worst joker is that get spectral card with straight flush because that's the most impossible thing

I have gotten straight flush like 3 times

[upbeat burrow]

finally my god

[onyx locust]

[upbeat burrow]

never mind im dead either way

[onyx locust]

Seeded?

[fossil torrent]

"im going for a baron build" .. 14 antes later lmao

[upbeat burrow]

yeah i was going for an idol build but i couodnt find sock

[fossil torrent]

damn

[proper pollen]

elite odds!

[lofty vault]

I am going to strangle someone

[upbeat burrow]

damn this is my first baron build in a while and god smited me down

early antes were horrible the middle somehow worse

[lofty vault]

@fringe nebula the bitch ass crimson heart disabled both my primary scoring jokers back to back

[ivory portal]

Like this is so dumb

HOLO EGGGG

HOLO EGG FROM JUDGEMENT

Also all this while I thought judgement was a gun

[rocky nest]

Great way to start of ante 4

100 dola 🤤

[lofty vault]

Well well well look who's back

We taking the shiny bus to a castle

I got a suit debuff boss and it's on the suit the castle is on

Great way to start ante 1

[fringe nebula]

fullskip strat

[midnight talon]

WTH

2 BLUEPRINTS AND A BRAINSTORM

[upbeat burrow]

It's not that hard to get

[midnight talon]

how did you get flush to level 13

literally my dream

since im a flush type of player

fav deck is checkerd

[fringe nebula]

by

having

alot of money ✅

[lofty vault]

Chat thoughts on an eternal smear with castle

[fringe nebula]

2 joker slots for chips

better be worth it

[midnight talon]

ehhhhhh just say burnt joker and telescope

[lofty vault]

I found a poly ice cream in the same pack

[midnight talon]

imagine

[fringe nebula]

i don't have burnt and telescope on that run

i just used blue seal

[lofty vault]

I'm neck deep in chip scoring

[midnight talon]

what happend to my brother the other day in balatro

[lofty vault]

Next boss

[midnight talon]

he had enternal pareidolia

[lofty vault]

The water

[midnight talon]

he cant sell it

then

the nightmare shows up

[lofty vault]

Plant kinda looks like a flag

[midnight talon]

lwk he had to restart the whole run

he had baron

blueprint

negative brainstorm

[fringe nebula]

once again, money solves balatro lmao

[lofty vault]

My sweet sweet baby boy Cavendish

[royal bobcat]

Hi card sharp

[lofty vault]

Also I was able to discard 2 flushes for castle and damn that felt amazing

[royal bobcat]

Is it not a flag

[lofty vault]

Oooo nat negative card sharp

But

Perishable

[tacit stream]

Sad. Serving 5 round could be enough though depending on game state

[lofty vault]

Didn't take it

5 rounds of insurance for 11 bucks is a lil steep

And one shot the next 5 blinds

[exotic silo]

stm, shortcut and wee joker stickers

(terrible economy management got saved by a judgement -> shortcut lmfao)

fairly weak Wee too, because the build did not favor playing as many 2s as possible

[royal bobcat]

It is

[tawny ridge]

why did i do that

[exotic silo]

if this was done without Midas+Pareidoila, I'll give A for effort

[weary depot]

throwback and hologram carried

[exotic silo]

Negative Mr. Bones just vibing

[weary depot]

he was there for the vibes

[tawny ridge]

it was. i dunno why i kept them. i wanted more money i guess. well that led to nothing

[exotic silo]

vampire would have loved it

[tawny ridge]

i did so many rerolls didn't get shit

[lofty vault]

And so

It is done

[fringe nebula]

congratulations

time to do blackdeck winstreak

[lofty vault]

I sold blueprint for burglar

No not blueprint

Brainstorm

I could win with brainstorm but fuck it

Rocking this joker load out

[ivory portal]

Bean is tempting

[lofty vault]

Mmmmmm bean

So what deck is next to gold stake

[exotic silo]

huge sticker value ngl

[lofty vault]

Red, yellow, black, ghost and plasma have been gold staked

[fringe nebula]

magic

[lofty vault]

All new golds

[fringe nebula]

magic magic magic

[lofty vault]

Especially smear he fuckin sucks

Quite literally I don't think I will ever be taking smear again

[fringe nebula]

trust me it would feel like heaven after playing black deck

[eternal pumice]

[lofty vault]

Ok but what if I went from extra joker slot to minus a joker slot

[exotic silo]

for simplicity, Blue Deck should be easy, or at least easier than Black Deck lol

[fringe nebula]

ok but easier earlygame

and stronger econ

[lofty vault]

I have proven that I can fumble almost any set up

Besides castle somehow

That previous run tho

That was some bullshit with crimson disabling 2 scoring jokers in a row

Like my 2 main scoring fellas boom gone

[upbeat burrow]

the fuck

got th hand size vouvhers before ante 4 got baron and mime and brainstorm from judgement?

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON

[random lark]

[upbeat burrow]

NO PLEASE

NO PLEASE

[random lark]

better get that reroll voucher

[upbeat burrow]

lmao an ante later

[random lark]

i manifested it

[carmine berry]

why does my high contrast cards like half work? my diamonds are orange but my clubs are still the same colour as spades

[tacit stream]

is orange without high contrast. high contrast looks a bit more yellowish IIRC.

[midnight talon]

ok im in a tough situation, i need flashback cuz its x3 mult, and i cant sell the negatives cuz negatives yk, and debt card lets me buy flashback, and abstract for mult

wrathful it is

[carmine berry]

yeah it says its on and I see the change on diamonds but the clubs are just not changing lol

[upbeat burrow]

its he roffle special

[random lark]

why

[exotic silo]

Damn, is the wrathful joker doing anything special here

[midnight talon]

checkerd deck

soo lwk yea

[random lark]

spade is +19 mult with hc spade because of holo

[exotic silo]

that's +31 mult, do you actually need it after getting Throwback

[lofty vault]

Damn 5am but hey black gold stakes is deafeted so worth it

[midnight talon]

wrathful it is

[lapis lion]

would you guys rather have a permanent turtle bean or permanent seltzer

[midnight talon]

holographic wrathful to go 😔

[upbeat burrow]

i should probably deck fix before taking it right

[exotic silo]

permanent bean

[random lark]

Show build

[upbeat burrow]

hand size all the way

[lapis lion]

2 permanent seltzers or 1 permanent turtle bean

[upbeat burrow]

WHAT??????

[lapis lion]

2 replays for every played card or +5 hand size

[upbeat burrow]

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON

[lofty vault]

Seltzer gold seal would go crazy

[random lark]

this is most likely a beeg castle build that you took a late burglar in

[lofty vault]

The shop before the boss I took burglar

[upbeat burrow]

damn it its canio

[lapis lion]

gold seal + gold enhancement + golden ticket

[midnight talon]

the deck im working with rn

[random lark]

most common hand?

[random lark]

explain yourself

[lofty vault]

I had half joker for a while

[vestal copper]

dead?

[ivory portal]

Not yet

[vestal copper]

bloodstone tho

[ivory portal]

I sold my rebate for that stupid joker

[random lark]

bloodstone throwing your run yet again

[lofty vault]

Would get rid of a lot of cards for castle then was left with nothing good so high card

[copper iron]

End of day 'Road to C++' update. These are the only cards I am missing gold sticker on

[vestal copper]

wout rigged

[ivory portal]

I mean

Ive never done a bloodstone run

Just wanted to try

[vestal copper]

damn these are some good ones

[ivory portal]

Dude rebate is so useful

I just had to sell it for a showman

Burn all showman

Burn all showman

[vestal copper]

one of the best jokers

[ivory portal]

Burn all showman

[ivory portal]

It's my fav

Design and everything

It's neat

[copper iron]

I'm not a fan of burnt joker, I'd always get it when doing the 'skip blind for free rare' and would be disappointed. It can be really good with the right setup but i'm just not super impressed by it

[random lark]

the "right setup" being pairslop

[tacit stream]

the bespoke setup: burnt joker + 4oak

[vestal copper]

burnt is obscenely powerful with pairs

[proven ember]

IT IS HAPPENING FOR REAL THIS TIME

FINALLY

[vestal copper]

how do you have so many gays

[random lark]

is it losable

[midnight talon]

https://klipy.com/gifs/scream-11

[random lark]

yeah gross michael gotta go

[proven ember]

I live in Warsaw

[midnight talon]

15 mult down the drain? hell naw

[vestal copper]

a banana for banana

[proven ember]

Don't.

[vestal copper]

truly

[vestal copper]

x3 mult tho

if you go glass nuke then its stonks

[midnight talon]

plus thorwback its x6.75 mult...

plus the foil and abstract (+21 mult)

and blue joker too

[upbeat burrow]

crimson bean time

[midnight talon]

gros michel has to go

[random lark]

i did a lil math, i THINK you have like 40k guaranteed score per hand from jokers alone

[upbeat burrow]

fuck i accidentally won

[ivory portal]

Lol

A blue seal is better than burnt

[proven ember]

Yea, I am doing 70-80k with high card

[vestal copper]

blues are just broken

[midnight talon]

what are the chences of canvendish going extint after this round

[random lark]

so just don't get violet vessel

[midnight talon]

if it goes im crying

[exotic silo]

1/1000

whoops wrong reply

[proven ember]

I did 215k with one pair

[proven ember]

I have the voucher for rerolls

[random lark]

k nvm this is unlosable

[proven ember]

Can't even remember his name

[ivory portal]

They should make a green seal where the cards fart when u play it and the fart would travel out of my screen so I can finally know what the fart of a king smells like

[midnight talon]

https://klipy.com/gifs/vzgliad-2000-iardov

[tacit stream]

do you need to?

[midnight talon]

showman has to go

[random lark]

your cards are cheeks anyway so this doesn't matter

[proven ember]

Hehe

[midnight talon]

bro is calling cavendish and thorwback cheeks 💔 💔

[proven ember]

Not hehe

[random lark]

playing cards mb

[tacit stream]

playing cards

[ivory portal]

YES

[proven ember]

Burglar have to go

[ivory portal]

BURN ALL SHOWMAN

DEATH TO SHOWMAN

[brazen jolt]

how good is hitting 5 million on ante 5?

[ivory portal]

Nice

[random lark]

i was losing on nebula deck before i realized that it's another pairslop deck

[midnight talon]

FINALLY

AFTER AGES

[brazen jolt]

i swear if the next boss blind is the all face cards nerf im gonna lose my shit

[ivory portal]

Lol

[tacit stream]

do you need to?

[brazen jolt]

it better give me a reroll

[vestal copper]

[random lark]

[brazen jolt]

ok its all face cards are drawn face down

not that bad

[proven ember]

LETS GOOO

I finally did it

[tacit stream]

how will you do the victory lap?

[proven ember]

As I did most of my successful runs, with gays on my side

[brazen jolt]

niceee

[tacit stream]

oh I mean in which deck and which stake

[proven ember]

Idk yet

Erratic was fun

[lapis lion]

Guys, I need 200 chips. Is this enough ?

[proven ember]

Flush build

[midnight talon]

what are ur jokers

[lapis lion]

It's ok though since I used ankh on bird joker

[lapis lion]

1 neg bird joker and 1 normal bird joker

[midnight talon]

ability?

drop a x3 mult seed?

[lapis lion]

x3 mult if played hand is high card

animal mod

[midnight talon]

thats 1x3 anyways useless asf

has to go

except if you have upgraded high card to level 5

[lapis lion]

No, im leveling up flush

I haven't seen any Pluto's uet

[midnight talon]

yea play flush

[lapis lion]

btw do i sell

[brazen jolt]

this invisible joker is gonna do numbers lmao

[upbeat burrow]

them invis jokers be hitting

[midnight talon]

ability?

x3 mult seed drop?

[stark karma]

I’d sell everything lol

Except Trib

[midnight talon]

trio

[stark karma]

Actually would probably carry the invis till a blueprint or brainstorm comes

[brazen jolt]

hmmm yeah maybe. So im sure it copies trib

[midnight talon]

yo buy wheel of fortune

[brazen jolt]

then im set for like 4 antes

[stark karma]

Photo chad = 60% of a trib

[stark karma]

Don’t listen to him you don’t want those

In case of an early ecto

[upbeat burrow]

hell yeah

[brazen jolt]

yeah i didnt, wheel of fortune sucks

[midnight talon]

no

[brazen jolt]

i think i have hit 1 wheel of fortune

[midnight talon]

wheel of fortune always give me holographic

[livid scroll]

the mark is not marking

[midnight talon]

chinese balatro?

[livid scroll]

personal memory test

also my mother is chinese

[brazen jolt]

chat do i sell everything except trib?

[midnight talon]

no

keep legendary

its a legendary

nvm

sell it

[brazen jolt]

trib is legendary

thats what i mean

[midnight talon]

if its not yorick its useless

[vestal copper]

taxevasion~1

[midnight talon]

balatro arabic translation when

[vestal copper]

trib is good if they have deckfixing

[brazen jolt]

nah im not gonna sell everything, im too paranoid i wont hit the boss blind

[midnight talon]

nah

yorick better

yorick best legendary joker

[upbeat burrow]

Nah chicot better

[runic linden]

nooooooooo the game end ante 39 ?

[ivory portal]

Is it valid if I try to go for a naneinf on white stake

[upbeat burrow]

Yes

[ivory portal]

☹️☹️

Or is that lame of me

[vestal copper]

gg

[upbeat burrow]

Yeah

[vestal copper]

yeah thats what most naneinfs are done on

[ivory portal]

Alright

[ivory portal]

Ahhh okay

[vestal copper]

i mean you can try being a chad and go gold but yeah

[upbeat burrow]

What sociopath does naneinf on gold stake

[vestal copper]

white is the best

[upbeat burrow]

Imagine finding a bp/bs and it's perishable

[vestal copper]

doc prob did

[ivory portal]

I'm not even on gold stake yet

[vestal copper]

well

gl on naneinf ig

[upbeat burrow]

Yeah

Or that guy that made the 60k+ cat

[runic linden]

gold stake harder than naneinf

[upbeat burrow]

True

Mostly cus my luck is ahh sometimes

[ivory portal]

I'm only on ornage stake

How many till gold

5 ?

[vestal copper]

naneinf requires so much more and there are way less ways to do it

[upbeat burrow]

1

[vestal copper]

1

[upbeat burrow]

Next is gold

[vestal copper]

orange then godl

[runic linden]

when u know how to do u can hit it all trials

[upbeat burrow]

hey look its "definitely a boss blind"

[vestal copper]

serpent more like free

[upbeat burrow]

Serpent? More like worm

[vestal copper]

🪱

[spark kernel]

I just got chicot from a soul card

[wintry ice]

i think naneinf is too formulaic to be considered harder than gold stake

[upbeat burrow]

Congradolences

[wintry ice]

specially when the primary challenge is getting the right vouchers

[vestal copper]

chigoat

[brazen jolt]

oh yeah we are cooking now

[random lark]

photochad+?

[crisp condor]

chat, something's wrong with my balatro switch 2 edition

[brazen jolt]

huh?

wdym

I love min maxxing

[terse vale]

gold stake is more skill and naneinf is knowing what to do and luck

[stone shell]

naneinf is tedious not hard

[midnight talon]

i see two pair

play two pair

[crisp condor]

it won't let me

[midnight talon]

WHAT

what kind of poker game is this

no pair no party

[crisp condor]

poker night at the inventory

[midnight talon]

yea

balatro better

x100 times mult

[crisp condor]

guh

[brazen jolt]

does this also set money to 0 if i play something containing a three of a kind? like a full house

[lapis lion]

No

I don't think so

it's only if you play specifically a three of a kind

[brazen jolt]

alright thanks!

[lapis lion]

If your highest played hand is a high card that would be stupid so

[wintry ice]

it often is on non-pair builds

so yea

[plain briar]

so beautiful

[stone shell]

nope its specifically three of a kind

[vestal copper]

if only it was eternal 😔

if only there were eternals at all

[plain briar]

white stake :(

need to start grinding all my decks

[vestal copper]

drue

gold is beautiful

[novel rain]

I didn't expect rental stickers to complicate things so much, with more than one rental sticker in early game I just keep losing money into the negatives because I have no interest

[arctic hollow]

perkeo ante 1 with +50 chips

[obsidian patrol]

never take early rentals

[arctic hollow]

take rental gold joker

turns out im missing ONE voucher

aftwr card magician

[vestal copper]

rentals are fucking brutal

rental gold is like 0.5 every round

[wintry ice]

don't take rentals early on unless they're money positive or you need them to live

[median lotus]

Green deck is my least favorite deck

[echo sphinx]

i love green deck

[vestal copper]

green deck sucks

[median lotus]

NO

[median lotus]

YES

[echo sphinx]

can we hate black deck together ♥️

[median lotus]

Bruhhh, i love black deck

[novel rain]

I don't really have a favorite/least favorite deck, probably because the only deck I've completed multiple runs with is yellow deck

[tidal pawn]

i'm not a black deck hater

[waxen fable]

my soul heals everytime BajaBussyBlaster donation appears in roffle stream

[median lotus]

Erratic deck hater, then we shake hand

[tidal pawn]

no

[echo sphinx]

no

[tidal pawn]

erratic deck fun

[median lotus]

I hate that deck so much I never even play on white stake

[waxen fable]

yes

[echo sphinx]

me when im in a deck reading competition and my opponent is erratic deck hater

[waxen fable]

we are ALL sliming black deck

[tidal pawn]

i'm not

[echo sphinx]

ik
i like it cuz it "deckfixes" itself at a start

[median lotus]

Despair

[echo sphinx]

and inflate Full House value

[median lotus]

Erratic deck randomness is the reason I don't like it

[vestal copper]

52 10s of spades

[wintry ice]

erratic isn't too far from a default deck with how the game's meta works

[unreal topaz]

it makes straights harder, which is unfortunate bc those are fun

[wintry ice]

yea and those are like the main large hand

[solemn sonnet]

thats bananas

god this might actually win

perkeo

[bold gulch]

Any idea what i should search for? Idk if this will go how i want it ngl

[lofty vault]

How much you wanna bet one dies

[solemn sonnet]

i dont think i want to bet

[lofty vault]

How about an invisible

Or an ankh

Possibly a hex

[brave goblet]

I hate how it interferes with my sense of what's in my deck

[bold gulch]

You're so right, maybe a bp or bs if needed

[stone shell]

find a plus mult and all in on mult?

[solemn sonnet]

no my perkeo

2 bananas didnt save me

[ancient gyro]

what no flat mult does to a mf

[austere rain]

The most “stumbling over the finish line” run I’ve had, there were like no multiplicative options

[wintry ice]

taking grimbo and/or bus for base mult would be good

[tidal pawn]

it's balatro, you gotta :3

[lofty vault]

I had

I got a banana

[tidal pawn]

bernaner

[austere rain]

My Econ probably should’ve been better but I had to keep feeding red card to live

[lofty vault]

Burglar was an ante 8 big blind shop pick up

[austere rain]

Stacked as many of the same rank as I could (happened to be 9s) just to make the 3oak more consistent

[hardy jackal]

It's 1 in 500

[solemn sonnet]

this is amazing

i love it

[tidal pawn]

round 1 too is even better

[solemn sonnet]

bro??

hieroglyph and petroglyph are the first vouchers

im back at ante 1 again

for the second time

[novel rain]

Mmmmm

[wintry ice]

very nice

on the deck with no face cards and a lot of chip generation too

[novel rain]

Oh hell yeah

More fuel for the bus

Oh nah

How bad would it be if Invis hit Marble?

I mean of course the best result is if it hits RtB

Should I take Invis here??

[wintry ice]

double marble would be funny

and you still have space for xmult if you need it

[novel rain]

I mean it wouldn't be that bad to dupe Marble

It's just more stone

[strange compass]

Scaling Bull 😭

[manic vault]

holy fuck i just barely won this thanks to a red seal glass card

[vestal copper]

gay rights carry

[novel rain]

I mean Burglar isn't the worst dupe

[vestal copper]

its very good

[midnight talon]

it is the worst

[novel rain]

More fuel for the bus if I keep him, but I can still sell him if I find something better

[vestal copper]

insane rtb/econ

[midnight talon]

stone would have been better

[vestal copper]

not eternal

[solemn sonnet]

it would have been worse

cause you can scale ride the bus 3 more times

[vestal copper]

me when im clueless

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1007424479951073350.png

[dusty void]

You guys wouldn't believe me but I won with driver's licence

[midnight talon]

stone flush isnt bad if you have high card on lvl 15

[novel rain]

I think if I find Blueprint or Brainstorm I'll replace one of the Burglars

[midnight talon]

how is that even possible

[novel rain]

Because then I still can have the effect of two Burglars

[dusty void]

Steel queen spam + shoot the moon
And got super lucky with bs and bp

[ancient gyro]

or at lvl 1

[vestal copper]

gg riff raff

[solemn sonnet]

do some people actually think driver's license sucks

[vestal copper]

no

[dusty void]

It's hard to get online but that's it

[brave goblet]

4,792/4,800

tuff

[dusty void]

Not hard sorry

Just takes a bit

[midnight talon]

it doesnt suck but its just unreliable

[brave goblet]

how is it unreliable

[solemn sonnet]

how's it exactly unreliable

[brave goblet]

enhancing cards should be something you already do

[tranquil oasis]

it’s not bad, necessarily just takes a while to actually activate it

[dusty void]

Otherwise it's just another cavendish

[solemn sonnet]

you just empress hierophant a couple cards x3 mult

[tranquil oasis]

unless you already have the required cards

[solemn sonnet]

it can also be kickstarted if you get it while already having enhanced cards

[brave goblet]

You should be making gold cards and stuff at every given opportunity

[solemn sonnet]

anyway what is this seed

[tranquil oasis]

but even then

[dusty void]

True

[solemn sonnet]

swash egg first round hieroglyph then petroglyph and there's like so many purple seals

[tranquil oasis]

it’s just a harder cavendish

[dusty void]

I got super lucky with a round 1 midas mask

So my econ was crazy already

And I got drivers licence at ante 7

When I had steels and golds

So I js took it and won

[tranquil oasis]

so yeah

driver’s license is good IF you haven’t already gotten Gros Michel extinct

if you already did you’re better off getting cavendish

[dusty void]

I didn't roll banana at all

[jovial mica]

chip%

[dusty void]

Rocky

[vestal copper]

less scaling tho

[ancient gyro]

why if? youre not guaranteed to get either of the x mults with that kind of foresight logic

[novel rain]

It wouldn't hurt to pick it up for now

I can always sell it if I find something better

And if I didn't pick it up I probably would lose this

[tranquil oasis]

might be irrelevant but Drivers License is a rare, meaning it has a lower spawn rate, looking at Gros Michel AND Cavendish they are both common

so objectively, yes cavendish is better.

[ancient gyro]

might be irrelevant

is irrelevant

[solemn sonnet]

you have to get gros michel and have him die for cavendish to spawn in

[tranquil oasis]

I said that already

[solemn sonnet]

yea

that deamplifies the chances heavily

of you getting cavendish

[tranquil oasis]

not necessarily

[ancient gyro]

so riddle me this, what are the shop weight odds of getting a 1 in 6 followed by encountering a specific common, as opposed to getting a specific rare with its own activation requirements sustainable

[tranquil oasis]

yeah you could argue that chances

[ancient gyro]

no I want you to give an actual number

%

[tranquil oasis]

hold on

[novel rain]

Easiest run of my life (don't mind Chad, he's just hangin' there)

[proven ember]

What to do now since the c++ chase is over?

[ancient gyro]

do another one

or play sts2

[proven ember]

I will when balatro 2 come out

[ancient gyro]

this isn't overwatch

[tranquil oasis]

yeah I can’t really come up with a number

[vestal copper]

balatro:global offensive

[ancient gyro]

this includes

joker shop weight
judgment probability within that shop weight
returns of shop blocking duplicates given existing current joker roster
rarity pool

oh cool

[proven ember]

Balatwo

Balathree

[ancient gyro]

so the probability argument was just empty

[inner hollow]

Barely

[tranquil oasis]

alright

so if look here

common jokers have a 70% chance to spawn

[inner hollow]

🤔

[tranquil oasis]

since I’m too lazy to do math rn

give an estimate of like 10% maybe?

[ancient gyro]

and have a shop weight of 20

what

[tranquil oasis]

look man

I am NOT good at math

[vestal copper]

i can tell

[ancient gyro]

i figured

[tranquil oasis]

if you want that answer you can go on some flint lockwood type studying

[vestal copper]

taxevasion~1

[solemn sonnet]

why am i having a baron mime run on black stake

and i have an eternal raised fist too

lord

[ancient gyro]

baron doing something pt1

[solemn sonnet]

nvm im dead cause of the needle and i didnt get a pair

somehow

[tranquil oasis]

yeah this might be something or not but rares apparently have a 5% chance to spawn

not counting Judgement cards and Wraiths existence

[vestal copper]

ashy syndrome 😔

[tranquil oasis]

with judgement cards and wraith

I don’t know

[ancient gyro]

you didn't account for obtaining specific jokers and having their activation requirements online given ev averages per round

[solemn sonnet]

this is the second fucking time

i buy hieroglyph ante 1

beat the boss blind

then get petroglyph

[lyric karma]

Gold stake?

[solemn sonnet]

black stake

[lyric karma]

grab it

[ancient gyro]

so you randomly found two seeds that can get to a-1 on yellow

[solemn sonnet]

i did

[ancient gyro]

if they're still playing green deck they've done two questionable decisions

in a row

[solemn sonnet]

this is the first time a rare tag has actually done something useful on a stake higher than white

[ancient gyro]

three*

[lyric karma]

son 😭

[tranquil oasis]

I took a rare tag once and got a negative blueprint

I still lost because of the chud needle

[lyric karma]

You guys are so lucky

[ancient gyro]

or cause you skipped

[lyric karma]

i cant get blueprint or brainstorm that much

[solemn sonnet]

i only take rare tags in ante 1 and i never touch them for the rest of the game cause they're so risky

[ancient gyro]

they're the most risky at a1

[solemn sonnet]

this is like the fourth or fifth time i've gotten something actually useful from a rare tag

[tranquil oasis]

I got a blueprint out of a judgement card and then the game gives me no good joker to pair it with

[brave goblet]

My faithful burger has served me well

Steel is xmult

[turbid nova]

I just got an invis from a rare tag and it duplicated my brainstorm

[tranquil oasis]

invis has always done me wrong

last time I got and it copied Egg

[primal olive]

ay

[solemn sonnet]

what should i sell for sock here if there's anything i should sell in the first place

[primal olive]

it's free econ tho

[tranquil oasis]

idol, maybe?

[primal olive]

legit just happy face

wait

what ante are u in

[solemn sonnet]

thing is im trying to go for an idol run

[primal olive]

?

[solemn sonnet]

5

[smoky niche]

just sell idol bro

[solemn sonnet]

probably will

[primal olive]

Ur deck is prolly nor built for isol

[solemn sonnet]

it'll take too long to properly use

[tranquil oasis]

idol is good when it does

but other then that it’s a sitting duck

[solemn sonnet]

i swear

the plant always appears in the worst places possible

[smoky niche]

should have checked first smh

just get a glass and you're golden

[solemn sonnet]

i keep forgetting u can check it tbh

[midnight talon]

yget cooked buddy

[smoky niche]

probably

[solemn sonnet]

i just need to save a justice for it

and card sharp should handle it

[turbid nova]

Double the money

[solemn sonnet]

mmm

[tranquil oasis]

I was in ante 7

[solemn sonnet]

really want dna but also want baseball

[smoky niche]

you get x960 mult with just a glass card if im not wrong

so hopefully you have sufficient base mult and chips

[solemn sonnet]

do i sell smiley face for dna or baseball

[tranquil oasis]

see now look

[primal olive]

lowkeynuine, half card to sync with card sharp (ass)

[tranquil oasis]

how many uncommons do you have

[solemn sonnet]

two

but dna makes more glass

and i have brainstorm

[turbid nova]

I would take dna tbh

[smoky niche]

hows your planet levels looking

[primal olive]

40k chips

[solemn sonnet]

i am pairing

[primal olive]

ah

planet

not plant

[turbid nova]

pairslop

[primal olive]

yea get half joker

[solemn sonnet]

its easy to work with and i just want to gold stake green deck again

[turbid nova]

Honestly with dna you could pivot into 5oak

[smoky niche]

uhh just a glass should be enough?

[solemn sonnet]

i did just get a glass holographic 2

in a standard pack

so i think i might aswell just take dna

[primal olive]

no half joker for that pair?

🥀

[solemn sonnet]

yea a single glass jack scores like 46k with card sharp

so if i draw that holographic 2 i should win

i'll just try to get a justice in my consumable area

ok i made it through

barely

[tranquil oasis]

how good would Rough Gem, Bloodstone, Arrowhead, Onyx Agate, Lusty Joker, Wrathful Joker, Gluttonous Joker, Greedy Joker, along with Flower Pot and Splash be if it was gotten in a run

[smoky niche]

how are we supposed to answer this

like all of them at once??

[tranquil oasis]

yes

[solemn sonnet]

i guess we doing faces now

[tranquil oasis]

let’s say a four of a kind with 5s of all suits

how good would that be

[smoky niche]

i think you might be winning this run

[tranquil oasis]

let’s also just say that bloodstone activated

[solemn sonnet]

yea im scoring 3 mil on average

if i copy chad with a single jack of clubs thats glass

dude why are all the nat negatives im getting so butt

first nat negative ramen then nat negative madness

[midnight talon]

black stake here i come

after playing with gf

[cursive crater]

uh ok

[visual niche]

i'm on my first gold stake plasma run

[midnight talon]

HOW

[visual niche]

lmao

[cursive crater]

funni score

[midnight talon]

and what deck is that

[visual niche]

ancient joker did the deed

[cursive crater]

its a challenge

[midnight talon]

ohhhhhh

wait why only 47 cards?

[lofty vault]

What's the challenge

[visual niche]

its the "Mad World" Challenge

one of the easiest ones imo

[lofty vault]

Canio would go crazy

[cursive crater]

some deck fixing

[visual niche]

Welcome to tarot cards, friend

or some spectral ones too ig

[midnight talon]

negative eternal pareidolia?

plant be begging to be a boss blind

in this run

[tacit stream]

Plant is banned in this challenge

[visual niche]

i believe plant is banned

[ancient gyro]

banned

[visual niche]

yeah

[cursive crater]

i think plant is cancelled

[midnight talon]

DAMN IT

[cursive crater]

would be funny if it wasnt though

[ancient gyro]

rtb however

[tacit stream]

The starting deck is only 32 cards (2-9 of each suit)

[visual niche]

also you start off with no actual face cards lol

[midnight talon]

straight ahh deck

[smoky niche]

is this even a challenge

[visual niche]

it is!

[smoky niche]

doesnt seem that hard

[visual niche]

6th one

[cursive crater]

ur right

[visual niche]

defo one of the easiest

i believe it's my first challenge run i ever did

[midnight talon]

smiley face and evil face gon do the job

[cursive crater]

any tips for golden needle

[visual niche]

and i got $500 on it

[midnight talon]

along side throwback and cavendish

[cursive crater]

im lwk scared to even attempt it

[visual niche]

don't remember what i did for it

[tacit stream]

if you run straights or 4oak they probably didn't need to ban plant at all, Plant would just basically kill econ for one round.

[midnight talon]

ill play this challeng after

lwk has things to do rn

[lofty vault]

Idk what I'm about to purge from existence but good riddance

[ancient gyro]

whatever your spades were

[light brook]

cav broke and it screwed me over 🔥

what the fuck cav

[visual niche]

LMAOO

hey

either it happens, either it doesn't

50/50

👼

[ancient gyro]

blackboard could never

[wintry ice]

cavendish is... a fraud?

[light brook]

club flush build 😞

apparently 5x yorick wasn’t enough

[midnight talon]

it would never

[ancient gyro]

cav was right to leave

[midnight talon]

if its not enough nothing is

[cursive crater]

my ante 1 gros michel stood with me and got the gold sticker

thank you bananae

[light brook]

listen man just workin with what i got

[midnight talon]

gros michel since ante 1

luck

[cursive crater]

i know right

[lofty vault]

Somehow only a singular queen was destroyed

[ancient gyro]

given that a third of your scoring went up in smoke

[light brook]

guess who is NEVER getting a white stake sticker on yorick 😂✌️

[ancient gyro]

aw man 🥀

[midnight talon]

me

[light brook]

no way me too

[midnight talon]

i never got a yorick ever

[light brook]

you will eventually dw

[midnight talon]

not even a legendary

never got the soul card

[tranquil oasis]

cavendish just broke on me in ante 8

I’m gonna tweak

[visual niche]

any advice on getting yorick? (literally the only joker i need to C)

[midnight talon]

no way

[light brook]

genuinely when people ask “how to get soul/black hole easier?” literally just play

[midnight talon]

1 in 1k chances

[light brook]

dude same but ante 7 just now

[light brook]

twins when cav breaks

[wintry ice]

it's been months since i've had cavendish break

[ancient gyro]

need seed for plantain research

same

[visual niche]

never happened to me

[tranquil oasis]

I swear to you despite Michel being 1 in 15

[wintry ice]

like i was still playing green stake when it happened

[ancient gyro]

15?

[tranquil oasis]

it goes extinct more often than wheel

[midnight talon]

i got black hole a total of 6 times in the 5 months since i started playing balatro

[tranquil oasis]

Michel, Not cavendish.

[wintry ice]

michel is 1 in 6

[tranquil oasis]

wait

[ancient gyro]

michel isnt a lucky card

[tranquil oasis]

I’m reading the mult

[pale wolf]

theres only 1 way of increasing your chance of seeing a soul or black hole and that's seeing more packs i.e. double tags on a skip

[visual niche]

yeah

[wintry ice]

it's not too far off from wheel and it triggers every round

[ancient gyro]

unconditionally in a sense

[light brook]

i’ve played for almost a year atp this his is my first cav break

[wintry ice]

wheel is something that you get every whenever

[tranquil oasis]

also

everytime I take a negative tag is swear to you it’s always on something USELESS

[wintry ice]

yea that's the average

[midnight talon]

not always

[ancient gyro]

classic noob trap

[tranquil oasis]

i got one and it got put on gros michel

[midnight talon]

i took it and got a negative blueprint one time

[light brook]

since august so about 8 months multiple games daily and 1 cav break i’d say that’s pretty average

[wintry ice]

by the time it can appear most options aren't helpful for you

[light brook]

welcome to anaglyph deck

[tranquil oasis]

playing on gold stake for the first time is hellish

[light brook]

only reason negative tag is good is for gold stake stickers otherwise its hot dogshit

[tranquil oasis]

never skip right to gold stake

[light brook]

turn to grimbo/nova/bus pairslop

[ancient gyro]

and getting stickers requires doing suboptimal plays

[marble turret]

temperance value:

[light brook]

whatever you need for ++

[wintry ice]

the last few stickers will be genuine suffering for painted++

[turbid nova]

The best joker oat

[ancient gyro]

lul

[wintry ice]

i need to learn to rely less on jokers

[ancient gyro]

my mind on painted is similar to plasma but with less mid game suffering

[wintry ice]

how often do you move to full xmult on it

[tranquil oasis]

throwback is still a fire joker

[wintry ice]

i usually do pairslop but with two pair

[tranquil oasis]

I’m gonna die on that hill

[ancient gyro]

not that often

[wintry ice]

throwback is usually equivalent to a polychrome

[ancient gyro]

that's usually how it goes

[midnight talon]

what does the upgrade to nothing voucher do?

[tranquil oasis]

I got it to 3.5x mult

won that same run

[wintry ice]

it's not horrible but it's not very goos either

[ancient gyro]

black deck privilege

[wintry ice]

well that xmult isn't worth the cost

you miss on full rounds of scaling, econ and options

[ancient gyro]

not worth losing a ws for

[tranquil oasis]

If you have good enough jokers to get you through blinds easy, yes throwback is worth it

[lofty vault]

X-ray challenge complete

[ancient gyro]

the if conversation

where have i heard this before

[wintry ice]

if you have good enough jokers to get you through the blinds easily, throwback isn't actually helping

[noble timber]

always an if

[ancient gyro]

good jokers are very often scaling

[tranquil oasis]

skipping

[ancient gyro]

which is antagonizing the point of throwback

[lofty vault]

Oh goody the cruelty challenge is unlocked

[noble timber]

flower potting it

and ig cloud nine

[lofty vault]

And it actually sounds like a challenge unlike half the others

[turbid nova]

Flowerpot lowkey underrated

[tranquil oasis]

flowerpot is good

just hard to work with

[turbid nova]

Wild cards are good for once

[lofty vault]

Flower pot flush builds go nuts

[noble timber]

early game vagabond gave me a path to work towards

[tranquil oasis]

well unless you have a splash and a flowerpot

then it’s fire

[noble timber]

wild nines 4ok sounded the best to me

[wintry ice]

flower pot is just mediocre

it's definitely the clunkiest form of 3x mult

but it works well with straights

[drifting gorge]

this is why black deck best deck /j

[tranquil oasis]

what is the best joker combo that isn’t including blueprint or brainstorm

[wintry ice]

generally considered to be photochad

but it's not something you should try to force

[noble timber]

paredolia ride the bus

[acoustic kettle]

Amazing combo

[noble timber]

nah tho real talk dice with glass joker

[wintry ice]

rebate banner

[noble timber]

it enables him to go nuts

[tranquil oasis]

paredolia and canio is heat

[acoustic kettle]

Parei midas mask though

[wintry ice]

pareidolia just seems overkill for canio

[tranquil oasis]

though hard to pull off

[acoustic kettle]

[ancient gyro]

fr

only 60 gs wins

[wintry ice]

though the extra consistency with scaling is nice

[drifting gorge]

"only 60"

[tranquil oasis]

get one more and you get the funny number

[wintry ice]

erm why are your mercuries so high i thought you couldn't play pairs

[ancient gyro]

erm

oops

I gotta restart

[drifting gorge]

only 2 secret hand planet uses is crazy

[ancient gyro]

i generally don't use them

[acoustic kettle]

Well

[wintry ice]

secret hands are rare by design

[drifting gorge]

also holy you're locked in only 100 jupiter uses

[acoustic kettle]

Secret hands are secret

[drifting gorge]

true

[ancient gyro]

not that you have the ability to force one on black++ with the incentive to streak at one point

[acoustic kettle]

Pretty sure i leveled up secret hands more than i ever played them

[wintry ice]

all of them are outclassed by 4oak in consistency and the scaling is unnecessary

[ancient gyro]

blackpairless++ would be absolutely hell if I ever go down that route

[drifting gorge]

true 4oak is a lot easier to work with than 5oak and it's basically the same scaling

[wintry ice]

are pairs still the best hand there

i thought it would be two pair

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[turbid nova]

Fullhouse will always be my goat

[ancient gyro]

two pair has a higher benefit when you're starving

[drifting gorge]

i forget there's a lot of stuff that's just suboptimal that i do because its cool lol, i should try locking in sometime

[ancient gyro]

only if you have fun

[lyric karma]

3oak my goat

[acoustic kettle]

Pairs are pretty boring ngl

[ancient gyro]

i did it cause it was actually fun

[wintry ice]

oh yeah

[turbid nova]

Thoughts on this joker? #1480916714265903114

[ancient gyro]

oh yeah

[wintry ice]

when do you usually go for oaks instead of straights on painted

[lyric karma]

Its like pairs but buffed out

[wintry ice]

this is a joker that only does something if you're on-pace to win

[acoustic kettle]

Winmore

[turbid nova]

More rerolls

Fun

[ancient gyro]

when I get down to abandoned deck size or a questionable amount of deaths and whatever tarots

[wintry ice]

that's the case with every joker that needs you to score far more than the blind requirement

since the meta is pairs

you usually only score just enough

[acoustic kettle]

Well i mean not every joker has to be meta and amazing

[ancient gyro]

oaks have more stepping stones similar to how flushes have strush and flouse

[wintry ice]

yea

but this idea isn't that fun either

[turbid nova]

idk since I saw that there’s no benefit to scoring way over the requirement I thought it would be cool to add something to reward it

[acoustic kettle]

Maybe lower score req

[turbid nova]

x1.5?

[wintry ice]

25-50% over would be better

[turbid nova]

idk may be too broken at that point

[acoustic kettle]

Or maybe leftover hands discards

[wintry ice]

oh maybe

[cursive crater]

i mean you can get like 40 bucks with matador in one boss and nobody says anything

[wintry ice]

7$ for a condition that needs you to not be struggling is fair i think

[tranquil oasis]

what is the worst joker in the game

[ancient gyro]

showman

[lyric karma]

oh boy

[cursive crater]

rich get richer ahh

[wintry ice]

well it doesn't work on half the bosses and it's per ante

[turbid nova]

Banner

[tranquil oasis]

showman?

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[lyric karma]

bloodstone

[wintry ice]

showman is the only one that's detrimental in regular play

[ancient gyro]

at base, it's a detriment to your build

[tranquil oasis]

showman is good, but I can see where your coming from due to it being luck based

[ancient gyro]

good 😐

[acoustic kettle]

It messes up packs

And shops

[wintry ice]

it makes your packs worse by making them able to roll the same consumable you don't want multiple times

[lyric karma]

me when 5 neptunes on a celestial pack

[ancient gyro]

card blocking is hindered and an excess amount of econ is REQUIRED to obtain it's high variance benefits

[tranquil oasis]

gambling

[turbid nova]

Actually matador might be up there

[ancient gyro]

im just answering your question

[ancient gyro]

nah

[acoustic kettle]

Matador is bad but not that bad

[ancient gyro]

it's decent

[wintry ice]

getting actually new stuff is usually far better than getting more of what you already have

[wintry ice]

it's basically an investment tag

[turbid nova]

It’s super situational and IF I ever were to buy it, it would be just for the boss blind and sell instantly

[strange compass]

No it's bad

[wintry ice]

i don't know if any joker with that much earlygame potential can be considered that terrible

[tranquil oasis]

8 ball

[turbid nova]

Which honestly has never happened to me

[tranquil oasis]

8

ball

[strange compass]

It only activates in like 4 bosses

[lyric karma]

what tags are worth for skipping?

[wintry ice]

8 ball generates value

[acoustic kettle]

A1 investment

[strange compass]

Plus youre sabotaging your score when you use Matador

[wintry ice]

it's not detrimental like showman is

[wintry ice]

what?

[lyric karma]

Besides investment

[ancient gyro]

matador being a descriptive con artist doesn't reflect in its abilities in practice. 1 in 6 to receive 8-24 dollar payout per round ev

[turbid nova]

In ones like psychic and the eye you’re wasting a hand for 7$

If you’re not struggling it’s an ok tradeoff

[ancient gyro]

not that I care about most card debuffs anyways

[acoustic kettle]

I mean there are some depends on the cases

[wintry ice]

usually the debuffs are just

[tranquil oasis]

what is the most mid joker