🕹・game-discussion

[low spire]

i feel very bonita

[brisk bluff]

What to do

[lime remnant]

ts why you never sell chad

[grizzled robin]

sell dusk i guess

[lime remnant]

it haunts toy

you

[grizzled robin]

this run is crazy

you need an ecto so bad

[lime remnant]

hell no

pray bro get an ecto

[grizzled robin]

it literally does the same as a blueprint into the sock

except u dont need to wait for last hand

and u can use it to copy something more useful later

[lime remnant]

igb

[glad smelt]

Madness scaling for free is soo dam good

Like he can’t even kill anyone

[lime remnant]

i want a madness run so bad

[grizzled robin]

i hope you get a soul

[balmy flame]

favourite card

the

[grizzled robin]

and cant get it

with 5 eternals

[glad smelt]

I’d skip it

Why do I need it

I go for stakes

[calm furnace]

if anyone has beef with throwback they have beef with me. mf saved my entire run

[jagged cliff]

So, I kinda like my rocket, but...

[molten thicket]

gamble

[jagged cliff]

But if it hits the rocket

Then im doomed

ruined

unable to come back

[molten thicket]

if you want you can like savescum

[jagged cliff]

Not a big fan of it, but even if, I dont wanna sell my rocket !!!

🚀 my rocket

We were supposed to naneinf together

💔

[uneven wolf]

are u playing on plasma deck?

[jagged cliff]

Yea

[uneven wolf]

oh dang

sell that rocket

[grizzled robin]

is it better to copy dusk or scaryface?

[uneven wolf]

GAMBLE

[jagged cliff]

Scary

[jagged cliff]

NOOOO

Alr then

maybe

[slow iris]

one on scary and one on dusk

[molten thicket]

also no antimatter?

[uneven wolf]

9/15 decks finished on gold stake

[jagged cliff]

It's been fun old pal

[grizzled robin]

oh true this was the best option

[jagged cliff]

Okay holy shit I totally forgot that I still had chad and seltzer, but I ripped it 😭

[grizzled robin]

thanks

[jagged cliff]

Worked out, luckily

luck unmatched

[molten thicket]

couldve kept the rocket

[jagged cliff]

What if it hit the rocket

[molten thicket]

it was gonna hit the bp either way

[jagged cliff]

Aw man

[uneven wolf]

what do you need for naneinf?

[calm furnace]

throwback is so goated omg

[stuck finch]

bro, two brainstorms is crazy fucking luck

[jagged cliff]

Some vouchers, dna and mime and money

Need a mime soon

[low spire]

so called free thinkers when photocard

what goes

[molten thicket]

the chad is there for the fun of it

[glad smelt]

I in fact did lol

[terse vale]

nothing?

[low spire]

photograph is meant for my kings

it’s a 2pair build

[terse vale]

you have pants there’s no reason to take photograph

[jagged cliff]

Yup

[terse vale]

you have mult deckfixing and econ you cant replace those

[low spire]

hmmmm

[fringe nebula]

11 winstreak on magic deck

[cursive crater]

now i know that halfie is the safest pick,but imagine a wraith

[fringe nebula]

if you're not going for winstreak, go for it

[balmy flame]

quick q for the mime fans here

does mime retrigger raised fist?

[fringe nebula]

yes

mime does retrigger fist and shoot the moon

[balmy flame]

slick, thank you

[cursive crater]

im cooked

[fringe nebula]

ouija on abandoned sounds good honestly

[terse vale]

grim sounds bettr

[low spire]

are we fucking serious

[cursive crater]

got queens😭💔

[sullen aspen]

whats the spectrals looking like?

oh wait nvm u already have ecto

yeah no mime and vouchers are the only things left

[grizzled robin]

LOOOOOOL

tough

[tight oriole]

I’m new to the game how do I get the secrets like royal flush and five of a kind any joker acquired that’ll make it easier

[fringe nebula]

checkered deck

[grizzled robin]

can you technically get a red seal glass card with polychrome from Familiar spectral card

[tight oriole]

Thanks

[grizzled robin]

or is htere limits

[brisk bluff]

Worth ?

The skip tag

[terse vale]

no editions no seals

[cloud sinew]

No

[ivory reef]

Play with 3 poly oops

You will certainly not regret playing with 3 poly oops

[brisk bluff]

Should I use it

[fringe nebula]

yes

and then fill that empty slot with a showman

look for another blueprint

[ivory reef]

Damnit

[lyric karma]

i was wondering

what happens when cavendish goes extinct

Like, can it reappear on the shop

[fringe nebula]

you can find cavendish again

[lyric karma]

or doesnt appear again

[lyric karma]

ohhh

[grizzled robin]

is photograph worth taking here?

do i sell my dusk or something

if i dont i feel like im dead in a few rounds

[brisk bluff]

👀

[grizzled robin]

insane

i think its more worth to copy your sock

yeah it definitely is

[hidden lance]

even the emergency campfire couldnt save it

[grizzled robin]

why would you take stuntman in any deck other than plasma bro

i feel like hes a fraud

[stark charm]

In what situation would you need 3 oops

8/7 chance card is draw face down?

[brisk bluff]

No luchador

gg

[molten thicket]

stuntman is pretty damn good outside of plasma

250 chips is a lot yk

[stark charm]

Stunt man is massive early carry in plasma

[atomic trout]

Bleh

[stark charm]

Oh yeah the cat , but don't you really need just 2 for it to be effective

[atomic trout]

Needle...

[molten thicket]

cat without retriggers is crazy

[stark charm]

He goes for the quality

[molten thicket]

yk if a lucky card triggers +20mult and $20 in the same count it only scales cat by 0.25x

[ivory reef]

I had a chad actually but sold it to get a gold sticker on some worthless joker

[stark charm]

What joker is that

[rancid gull]

Dude?! Insane pull

[wicked mango]

If i lose this run I'm uninstalling

[verbal sequoia]

Most synergistic run possible (9.6x mult obelisk saved me)

[molten thicket]

curse of the suit boss

[stark charm]

I wanna play ghostdeck with nonperishable

[glad smelt]

well, anyways that was easy win

[rancid gull]

Well you made 400k in one had

[wicked mango]

Just gotta look ahead

[rancid gull]

Hand

[fringe nebula]

dude?! insane pull

[rancid gull]

You should be okay

[verbal sequoia]

Love both halfsies square and supernova with obelisk

Still got 190 chips

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[noble timber]

gotta hate violet vessel when playing pairs

[wintry ice]

my most useful idol yet

[rancid gull]

I love bloodstone

[ebon condor]

what if i dont want to

[rancid gull]

I’m telling you

It’ll become a self fulfilling prophecy

You don’t recognize it now

[wintry ice]

huge!!!

[viral raft]

finally Credit card being good

[rancid gull]

YESSSS

[wintry ice]

sure i could sac square for that

[rancid gull]

Spend away my friend

[viral raft]

i hope credit card had atleast a way to make you gain money, the passive is almost useless and only good in Greed Deck and maybe Vagabond

[viral raft]

and also sqaure is HUGE

[rancid gull]

Space joker will never proc

[wintry ice]

it took 2 rounds for it to

it triggered twice in the same round now

better overall scaling than square

[viral raft]

Space is the only 1 in 4 chance that i trust

fail for it reward

[rancid gull]

Dude I had a space joker go 4 whole antes without proccing once

[wintry ice]

is it safe to sack holo now

[viral raft]

the next hand will proc trust me

[lime remnant]

its going to proc on a high card

[tepid lava]

What if localthunk made a sigil but instead of suits its modifiers

[viral raft]

obviusly that's your fault!1!

[wintry ice]

yea i could

[viral raft]

really strong in early runs imo

[wintry ice]

okay

[lime remnant]

what if thunk made a new pack and its called super mega jumbo spectarot card

[tepid lava]

But like the soul its extremely rare

[wintry ice]

double trigger

i would never doubt him

[viral raft]

nah that would be really bad, comparing random ahh enhancements with literally win conditions or free +1 level to all planets is really meh

[tepid lava]

Just a thought

[viral raft]

tbh i would like reverse tarot cards like the ones from isaac

[tepid lava]

Anyways excited for any surprises when the update eventually comes

[wintry ice]

making things rarer is a really artificial way of balancing things

[viral raft]

like the do the reverse thing but gave you new oportunities

[viral raft]

"this card is way too op!!"
"just make it rare and noone will ever care"

[lime remnant]

what if he made a new tarot and instead of strength its weakness and it lowers the rank

[wintry ice]

just make it unobtainable

[viral raft]

even common cards are great, ask any scaling or econ joker about being op

[wintry ice]

most useful seance

[viral raft]

great Dagger sinergy

[wintry ice]

did i seriously put it to the right of space joekr

[viral raft]

the reverse tarot cards

in tarot if the card is reversed it means the opposite of the meaning of the card

it would be cool that they added that

with cards taking you stuff but giving you new options

[cursive crater]

wouldnt work with most tarot cards

[viral raft]

just add new ideas around that, like in isaac that they make the reverse but they gave you stuff/new options to play around

[ember shoal]

First time I actually get to try out Erosion. Turns out it's pretty good with Jokerdex

[wintry ice]

the hex gamble worked

[cursive crater]

but i like the lower rank tarot idea

it exists in pokermon

[viral raft]

yeah, i seen it in some mods before i think

[lime remnant]

so called common joker when i get 9 bucks per hand with said joker

[wintry ice]

uh

[low spire]

so called free thinkers when photo chad

[wintry ice]

this is the one time i'm passing on it

dagger food it is

[viral raft]

big

[terse adder]

What does blueprint on lucky cat do

[lime remnant]

copies the lucky cat....

[tropic widget]

mmm big obelisk

[terse adder]

does it gain double the amount from a trigger tho

like the lucky cat

[lime remnant]

no it just copies the mult value

[terse adder]

ok

[wintry ice]

yea it works like that for all scaling jokers

do i just deal with this now

[calm furnace]

castle my goat

[lime remnant]

food

[wintry ice]

actually i would need to sell something to use my glass cards

i'll keep acrobat

[lime remnant]

acrogoat vs golden needle

[wintry ice]

weird finish

do i take the buffoon pack or grabber

[ancient gyro]

grab

[frail ingot]

Buffoon

[wintry ice]

ok i'm taking the hand

this is a decent start for straights

[lime remnant]

something tells me to take the fist

[fringe nebula]

can someone do ZETQNFRY, blue deck gold stake?

[wintry ice]

hm

might be a two pair or flush route instead if this is worth keeping

[fringe nebula]

there's one hard part that you need to pass through and then the game is fine afterwards

[ancient gyro]

ill prob do it never

im out of seeded profiles

[lime remnant]

is that hard

[fleet cobalt]

Should I sell Perkeo or nah

[wintry ice]

what are you copying

[fringe nebula]

you can check it out

[molten thicket]

holy brainstorm

[cursive crater]

5 brainstorms is definitely something

[wintry ice]

having 8 hand size feels weird

[molten thicket]

what did you DO

[molten thicket]

definitely don't sell perkeo unless you really really really have to though

[fleet cobalt]

Cryptid

[molten thicket]

baronless naneinf or smth

[wintry ice]

that's a lot of perishables

okay this is good but i still have literally nothing for my base scoring

lvl 3 pair doesn't cut it and my steven just died

[wicked mango]

I closed the game, reopened, and it wont let me select a card. So i guess i lost

[lime remnant]

do i have to record or

[fringe nebula]

no need

just talk about it after trying

[wintry ice]

wait this was a blank seed run

wtf

[quaint stag]

orange stake plasma done using flushes lmao

[fringe nebula]

yeah that ante 6 needle was incredibly stinky lmao

actually, maybe you could have an easier time beating it by taking the hanging chad glass route instead of rtb vampire

[heavy heron]

wait if you beat it

why do you need someone to do the seed?

[fringe nebula]

curiosity

[heavy heron]

ooo

me finding some weird ahh way to flush it

i could try lemme see

[fringe nebula]

flush would have an easier time on beating ante 6 needle there honestly

[heavy heron]

is this the right seed

[fringe nebula]

yes

correct

[heavy heron]

bet

[umbral sapphire]

Anti plant run

[lyric karma]

1 chicot and 3 tribs on ante 5

holy streamer luck

[umbral sapphire]

3 polycrome tribs

Dont forget

[lyric karma]

😭

[austere whale]

Gold stickered rough gem, business card, smeared joker, and seltzer. Don’t know how i found 4 nat negatives but whatever. Campfire + rough gem is strong

Im soo close to C*+

9YKHK62E

[fringe nebula]

campfire + any econ joker is strong

[austere whale]

Yeah, and i needed sticker on RG

[lyric karma]

campfire + riff raff

[lime remnant]

do i take boot

[fringe nebula]

up2u

[vocal rose]

campfire is strong*

[vocal rose]

fuck no

[serene forge]

I hate Bootstraps

[lime remnant]

igb

[lyric karma]

i hate N(ebula deck)

[keen radish]

We need to stop with the “every run is winnable” with new players

It’s at best misleading

[lyric karma]

didnt even knew that until you mentioned

[vocal rose]

its "objectively" true

[lime remnant]

only white stake lol

[fringe nebula]

every run is winnable if you're doing it with robotic level precision

[lyric karma]

but

[vocal rose]

there hasn't been a seed discovered yet that is unwinnable on gold stake if you're a robot

[lyric karma]

is the tutorial run winnable?

[keen radish]

And requires knowledge of every single shop and production of cards before you start

[vocal rose]

it doesn't

[keen radish]

It does

It just does

[drifting gorge]

it does in fact require precognition

[keen radish]

See, people eat this lie and believe it

[vocal rose]

great argument

[keen radish]

Yep

[lime remnant]

is anyone here chatgpt itself?

[lyric karma]

I know a guy

[gentle basalt]

There definitely are black deck seeds that you lose in ante 1 itself without knowledge

[fringe nebula]

this tbh

[gentle basalt]

But this serves a purpose
Even if its not 100% true, its 99.9% true at least

[serene forge]

its true though

nobody is saying its easy but its objectively true that with perfect play everything is winnable

[gentle basalt]

All (i refuse to asterisk this) of our losses are due to skill issue, and we need to admit that

[vocal rose]

in regards to card drawing I can see but if you're playing perfectly you WONT lose

[lyric karma]

?

[fringe nebula]

every seed is winnable, but not every seed is winnable in a blind run

[serene forge]

when you lose its productive to look at where you may have played poorly

[keen radish]

Functionally pointless. Perfect play is impossible to know unless you know what every card draw and shop and pack is going to be

[vocal rose]

now being a robot is a different argument

[terse vale]

is it not

like most of the runs they lose is winnable

well

all

[gentle basalt]

Perfect play loses too...
Perfect play means you make the choices which has highest probability off winning

[vocal rose]

your original point is still incorrect

since there hasn't been a seed discovered that is unwinnable

[keen radish]

I said with new players it’s a pointless counter productive thing to say

[terse vale]

99.9999% of runs are winnable with perfect play based on what’s good and predicting stuff

[serene forge]

when new players talk about how winning some seed is impossible, 7 times out of 10 they skipped a green joker in round 1

[vocal rose]

card counter ah saying EV

[terse vale]

like obviously some seeds have stupid ways to win but its still winnable

[gentle basalt]

No, its the opposite
Nearly every run is winnable blind, so its a good thing to say

[vocal rose]

I understand the nuance being told here

nobody is a robot

but what very gay lesbian hornet said

[keen radish]

Is your cat good on gold stakes?

[vocal rose]

like 90% of the times WHEN people say that

its them skipping over VERY obvious winning choices

like skipping a spare trousers ante 1-2

then saying "this game is impossible!!!"

[vocal rose]

im decent

[lyric karma]

good point

[vocal rose]

pedantrics say your point is wrong but we have social skills

and can understand when theres nuance in an argument

[fringe nebula]

honestly, every seed winnable/not is the most boring topic ever in balatro community

[serene forge]

I dont doubt there are some seeds where making a "dumb" decision on the surface is actually the best move, but you dont have to play perfectly all the time either

hi catastrophi

[vocal rose]

yes you did

[vocal rose]

the "there is/isnt objectively bad jokers" topic is worse

good job

[serene forge]

enlightened centrism

[stark karma]

Thoughts on this joker idea?

Laughing Tax
Uncommon
When Blind is selected permanently add total sell value of all Jokers to its Chips and set sell value of all jokers to 0

[gentle basalt]

unwinnable with perfect play is bad enough

[vocal rose]

I will say that this mostly applies to black deck gold stake

[gentle basalt]

(yellow deck) i lost a 7 streak to this

[vocal rose]

and DOING my black deck++ run I haven't discovered a seed that fits that criteria

and I do double check the seeds

[vocal rose]

i'm going to be completely honest

this is the big reason why the argument is boring

because stuff like that is winnable

[gentle basalt]

no its not

[vocal rose]

but you drew incorrectly

or not as smart as you could

[gentle basalt]

there are unwinnable (with perfect play, not saying mine was necessarily perfect play) seeds, and i dont know why you dont want to admit that
but at the same time, those are very few

[vocal rose]

I have admitted it already lol

and obviously this is just my anecdotal evidence

but I think my word can hold some weight if I've done black deck ++

[gentle basalt]

your anecdotal evidence is wrong
doc also had a run where he had to route his discards to be able to beat ante 1 boss

(black deck)

[rotund igloo]

Seems underpowered? I'm guessing it only really goes off with egg or gift card. Riff raff will only provide a few chips each round. Maybe im missing something

[lime remnant]

maybe the chip gained is kinda low

[gentle basalt]

and I've seen quite a few of these missed flushes despite discarding since first draw (with 3 of that suit already)

[stark karma]

Yeah that’s really fair lol

[gentle basalt]

including one on blue deck

[wintry ice]

do i sell hiker for this

[wicked mango]

How did doc to 100% with no losses

[lime remnant]

wished that run have erosion, theres a ton of hanged man

[gentle basalt]

this was not part of that series

[vocal rose]

"your anecdotal evidence is wrong" I don't think you can say what i've experienced is wrong 😭

[fringe nebula]

yeah this is a really dumb topic that i see no point in talking

i can't see how we can reach to any agreement

[vocal rose]

yeah I agree

anyways balatro

[gentle basalt]

well, what i mean is, your anecdotal evidence isn't replacement for fact

[drifting gorge]

a little luck and top player skill

[wicked mango]

I'm losing my mind. Marble is the only joker i don't have gold staked and i havent seen it in a month

[molten thicket]

whats anecdotal evidence im dumb

[vocal rose]

never claimed that

just said it could hold SOME weight

[serene forge]

like i lost here yesterday and it was frustrating but i know i lost because i didn't discard as much as i should have because i was greeding parking money

[heavy heron]

personal experience as evidence

[wicked mango]

I'm just farming arcana for those towers but, slamming heiroglyph to get more shop, saving kinda big bux cause I'm not good enough to get good money consistently

[vocal rose]

not "take my anecdotal evidence as fact"

[lime remnant]

marble hologram 🤤

[vocal rose]

anyways moving on

[wicked mango]

And i just haven't rolled it once

[gentle basalt]

your claim was :there do not exist any unwinnable seeds
the existence of even one such seed disproves you
the existence of 100 seeds which are winnable (that you got in a row) does not prove your statement

[molten thicket]

so like "since sth worked for me it should work for everyone"?

like a fallacy?

[heavy heron]

in a way… yea… yeah kind of

no not fallacy

[serene forge]

glitched all planet seed on gold stake black deck is winnable, it's gonna take a miracle for an unwinnable seed to truly exist

[heavy heron]

it’s like using your own specific circumstantial evidence that you pulled from a personal experience to justify an argument

[gentle basalt]

i consider perfect play without knowledge losing to be unwinnable seed

[vocal rose]

I see your point

[molten thicket]

oh so its more like "in my experience..."

[wintry ice]

is this about a seed being fully unwinnable or realistically unwinnable on the first try

[wicked mango]

Planetless seed with only first page jokers

[vocal rose]

yeah no im not holding onto the 0.000000000000000000000000000001% chance is fully unwinnable

[gentle basalt]

well, you can argue perfect play does not exist since the space is infinite, but lets ignore emperor looping or other such things

[vocal rose]

and we have shaky definitions too

since that is your definition

[serene forge]

what is your definition of perfect play

[midnight talon]

guys what is the best legendary joker

[gentle basalt]

maximize probability of win

[serene forge]

if your perfect play lost then it wasn't perfect was it

[vocal rose]

yorick

[midnight talon]

yk ball

[vocal rose]

I do

[vocal rose]

I do indeed

[lime remnant]

i thought this was common ball knowledge

[gentle basalt]

this is a luck based game

consider a game of flip biased coin with head p = 0.6
you have only 1$, you bet 1$ on heads and the return is 2$ if you win
is that not perfect play just because you lose?

you maximized your expected gain, hence its perfect play

[vocal rose]

it isnt

people still think trib is the best for gold stake ante 8

[heavy heron]

so maybe you should say optimal play, not perfect play

[fringe nebula]

yeah, sometimes the "oftentimes good" play can result in losing instead

[heavy heron]

because perfect play is predicting when to do the lower odds play

[molten thicket]

suprising to see gloker so high

[gentle basalt]

synonymous to me

perfect doesnt mean you can predict the future man

[rancid gull]

We’re back to the perfect play talk lol

[vocal rose]

so we are fighting against your own definitions

that is determined by you

[fringe nebula]

i know right

[heavy heron]

perfect prob means… like…. seed knowledge

[vocal rose]

yeah this argument is one sided towards you

[heavy heron]

hence the word “perfect”

[gentle basalt]

well take optimal play itself

its bullshit to tell someone "well all seeds are winnable with knowledge of that seed"

[vocal rose]

no optimal play and perfect play are completely different

[lime remnant]

grazy

[vocal rose]

and if you disagree with that theres zero point in conversating any further

[gentle basalt]

the words themselves dont matter

[frank grove]

how does this debate happen like 5 times a week here

[fringe nebula]

idk man

[molten thicket]

does it?

[frank grove]

oh alll the timeee

[gentle basalt]

because some people say stuff like "every seed is winnable"

[molten thicket]

ive only seen it like 4 times

[frank grove]

because they are?

[molten thicket]

no you're joining it please stop

[vocal rose]

sisyphus uphill battle

you can interact if you want

but you're fighting against THEIR own definitions of words

[heavy heron]

he’s saying that there’s a difference between

1. perfect play: doing EXACTLY everything correct (with seed knowledge probably, or being extremely lucky), even knowing when to do unoptimal plays because of luck

2. optimal play means like card counting in black jack; you know what’s your best odds but it’s never guaranteed, you just stick to best odds (and sometimes fail)

[vocal rose]

which doesn't make sense in an objective argument

[lime remnant]

how do i use obelisk effectively? do i rack up spammy card and then pivot

om having trouble with pivoting

[fringe nebula]

you need chips

[vocal rose]

spam pairs initially as this game is pair slop

[gentle basalt]

the context was "we should not tell new players every seed is winnable" (i disagreed with this btw)
the reply was "but they are"
in this context, obviously seed knowledge is not being counted

[vocal rose]

get a chip joker

[vocal rose]

then play any other hand

with high card as your safety net

[fringe nebula]

yeah, idk if we're talking about blind run or with seed knowledge

[gentle basalt]

its clear from context of initial statement

[vocal rose]

glass joker is fire

[edgy stone]

I cant send inmage

[heavy heron]

w seed knowledge… every run is beatable

..surely

[molten thicket]

it never shows up for me even with glass

[lime remnant]

hmm

[gentle basalt]

even this is not sure tbh, there is no known unbeatable seed*

[turbid dove]

Yo haunt you forever

[molten thicket]

neveer have the chance to use it

[vocal rose]

with EVERY seed counted so far and a glitched black deck gold stake being beaten

yes

[frank grove]

without seed knowledge there probably is a seed where the winning move is not optimal and really bad but there is still a chance that someone beats it because they dont do the optimal thing cause they just dont know

[vocal rose]

every run is beatable

[heavy heron]

there was this video posted where a seed was glitched and it had the worst possible order of bosses, no skips, AND no jokers (besides buffoon packs)

and it was beatable

so who knows

[edgy stone]

Anyone cannot send image like me?

[gentle basalt]

its much more likely to have a seed where ante 1 is unbeatable than anything else fyi

higher up, it becomes more and more unlikely

[frank grove]

seeds where the draws are so horribly bad do happen

[rancid gull]

Balatro but any boss blind can show up ante one

[rancid gull]

Ante one eye

[heavy heron]

i think discord is having a stroke because i can’t edit my messages

[frank grove]

i guess is this talking about confined to gold stake black deck?

[grizzled robin]

is there an actual answer

or are you asking us

[junior urchin]

Asking

[grizzled robin]

oh

[vocal rose]

if perkeo is obtained ante 2

[molten thicket]

there's no way there's an 100-75% of naneinf in every white plasma run right??

[vocal rose]

its likely closer to 100%

[junior urchin]

Yes

[molten thicket]

oh.

[vocal rose]

as perkeo makes it WAY easier to naneinf

[molten thicket]

i didnt notice the perkeo by ante 2 😭

[junior urchin]

Wow really just a 6th sense / seance and some brainstorm/blueprints?

[vocal rose]

yes

[junior urchin]

Fair

[molten thicket]

yeah its def like 95%

[frank grove]

yeah you dont even need that many bs/bp

if you get perkeo in ante 2

[molten thicket]

you can also just observatory yk

[vocal rose]

less consistent than getting a cryptid

tbh

[junior urchin]

How many red seal steel kings in hand is it with one baron and mime does it take

[edgy stone]

It's not 100% but most of the runs

[frank grove]

observatory would take too long? and the chance of getting both vouchers before you die is not 100%

[vocal rose]

if its just a random seed

its probably a 1/3-1/2

realistically

[molten thicket]

ehh i find it safer in case game decided to curse you with oops all ouija

[heavy heron]

wtf is happening to discord

this can’t just be me right

[vocal rose]

discord poop

[heavy heron]

LOOLL

[molten thicket]

i think its just you?

[heavy heron]

ok..

[molten thicket]

its fine for me

[junior urchin]

Wdym

[heavy heron]

nvm it’s me ig

[turbid dove]

I lost to a needle with dna cus i forgot the boss blind

[vestal copper]

cant see messages cuz dc is freaking out rn 😔

[heavy heron]

OK YEA SEE

[calm sapphire]

95%

[molten thicket]

yeah i didn't notice the perkeo by ante 2 thing

[vocal rose]

oh its THE GUY

[vocal rose]

he probably can do it perkeoless 95% of the time

[lime remnant]

forever condemned to oujia 7

[frank grove]

yeah some people are insane at getting nan really consistantly now

[molten thicket]

yeah hes insane 😭

[vocal rose]

probably 99%

[lime remnant]

what about the remaining 1

[potent tree]

yeah images just aren't working rn. gifs apparently are

[molten thicket]

actually what % of white stake plasma deck runs have naneinf potential

in general

[calm sapphire]

i could get it prob like 1 in 3 or 4

[molten thicket]

god DAMN

mb og

[lime remnant]

whats the common routes for naneinf?

i want a naneinf 🤤

[fringe nebula]

serpent burger

[frank grove]

what do you guys think a serpent burger would taste like

[lime remnant]

poison

yk bc serpenr

[calm sapphire]

money mime baron burglar serpent

[vocal rose]

they arent poisonous to eat

they're venomous though

[lime remnant]

do you also need cut

[frank grove]

most serpents arent venomous nor poisonous

[lime remnant]

so you can roll for serpent

[peak blade]

no more pictures in #🕹・game-discussion ?

[vocal rose]

serpents are venomous typically

[fringe nebula]

there, picture

[lime remnant]

so they taste like venom

[peak blade]

oh wait i think i said a bad word

[frank grove]

only like 10% of them are

[woven spire]

discord doesnt want to work today or wha

[lime remnant]

money is like econ or?

[vocal rose]

no they don't since venom is injected into your bloodstream

[peak blade]

it wont let me send one

[calm sapphire]

dd

internet

wtf internet

[fringe nebula]

i can't send messages

[calm sapphire]

hello

[fringe nebula]

ok good

[calm sapphire]

i discord breaking

[vocal rose]

DONT send an image

[fringe nebula]

it's working now

[calm sapphire]

is

[vocal rose]

discord sucks

[calm sapphire]

wtf im still lagging

[lime remnant]

what i can

why id everything slowed

[woven spire]

barely

[calm sapphire]

econ, just greed as much as possible without dying

[frank grove]

isnt it crazy that discord is going to ipo in this state at some point 😭

[calm sapphire]

and be safe

[calm sapphire]

yes, voucher skip

is good

[lime remnant]

ok, lastly i need that spectrum deck right

or whatever its called

ghost deck

[frank grove]

plasma is easier for nan than ghost

[woven spire]

true

perkeoless is easier imo

[lime remnant]

im too used to playing with mult 💔

so

whats a good chip joker for plas

[woven spire]

scary face or arrowhead

[lime remnant]

and a bunch of retrigger?

[woven spire]

yep

[lime remnant]

got it

[frank grove]

bull is pretty good too

[woven spire]

easy to pivot too

[heavy heron]

arrowhead

[lime remnant]

im still struggling with pivot

[heavy heron]

although scary face is very reliable

[woven spire]

just do spade kings till u get baron, i always try to make them gold to get ticket

[heavy heron]

i just do arrowhead because

😳

(flushed)

[woven spire]

yh i was telling them lol

[lime remnant]

ticket is common right

[frank grove]

yeah

[tight oriole]

God which one do I choose it’s so tough

[woven spire]

yeah

[fringe nebula]

shortcut for me

[woven spire]

with the retriggers and the gold cards u get RICH

[lime remnant]

maybe shortcut for a straight run

[eternal pumice]

[fringe nebula]

and starts level up saturn

[heavy heron]

🍎

[lime remnant]

noted, i never tried ticket

[heavy heron]

shortcut

[tight oriole]

True but imagine straight flush

[heavy heron]

straight flushes time

oh wait

[frank grove]

shortcut

[woven spire]

its a pretty good joker for nan runs

[heavy heron]

maybe smeared is better for straight flush

[tight oriole]

I chose it

[heavy heron]

but i’d still go shortcut

[lime remnant]

its that i usually do gold stake and the ticket i find are usually eternal rental 😭

[woven spire]

fair

[lime remnant]

with this newfound knowledge maybe ill get a naneinf 🤤

[white anvil]

😦

[fallen patrol]

Credit card

[woven spire]

any questions you have just ask

[lime remnant]

breaking news: king jonkler the third gets brutally murdered by a mental man

[calm sapphire]

plasma is way better

[tight oriole]

Interesting

[sullen mantle]

Holy luck

[fallen patrol]

What was it

[white anvil]

I once got like 5 legendaries in one run i even posted it here each time

never got that lucky ever again

[sullen mantle]

Yorick

[woven spire]

huge

thats a win

best legendary

[sullen mantle]

Already got Gold Sticker on him and it's Ante 6 with no Discard Vouchers so I sold him

[woven spire]

huh

[frank grove]

thats such a free like 3/4x easily what

[peak blade]

sadge

[lyric shore]

already winning tho so might as well get more stickers

[peak blade]

there the image finally sent

[fringe nebula]

ccitbp

[peak blade]

makes me very sad to not be able to buy a super strong joker store 1

where is credit card when i need it 🥀

[fringe nebula]

sometimes rental is actually an advantage

[peak blade]

rentals with sell effects are hilarious

like rental diet coke

[fringe nebula]

i took ante 1 rental midas once and things snowball like crazy

[peak blade]

or a rental shopping list or something where you can make money with it and sell it before paying the rent at all

[frank grove]

yeah some econ ill keep if its rental, some ill sell after i use it once or twice

[fringe nebula]

rental bean is free handsize with zero cost

[edgy stone]

I love Bloodstone. I hate Ancient

[woven spire]

what

[frank grove]

aj on checkered ...

[calm sapphire]

bros new?

[sullen mantle]

Winner

More Gold Stickers hurrah

[fringe nebula]

foil from banana is really good here

[sullen mantle]

Naneinf???? 😭

[edgy stone]

3 rounds and it didnt hit heart or diamond

[white anvil]

Oh no the verdant leaf what shall i do

[livid scroll]

goofy ahh run

[jovial mica]

ah so we all saw discord die for like 30 minutes

[jovial mica]

wtfff

[livid scroll]

who needs discards when every high card you play scores 100k

[jovial mica]

how, is my question

[livid scroll]

i think level 22 high card, stuntman and blackboard carried the whole thing

also burger did his job

[rancid gull]

Burger

[jovial mica]

lvl 22 is insane without burnt

[fringe nebula]

blue seal

[jovial mica]

right yea

[livid scroll]

or just telescope voucher

[white anvil]

telescope

[livid scroll]

or even crackhead astronaut

4 upgrades in a row once btw

[edgy stone]

Abstract is the goat I think

[livid scroll]

definitely

hex deserved

[edgy stone]

Did u use 2 alecto?

[livid scroll]

yeah

first time the ecto's hand reduction somehow turned out to be useful

[hollow atlas]

i tried

rate on a scale of 1 to naneinf

[robust lance]

Like a 4

For the +4 mult

[sullen mantle]

Well there goes the run

[sick hemlock]

can someone help me, after i brainstorm DNA which joker should i put to the far left for it to copy

[white anvil]

Yorick prob

What x is it at

[fringe nebula]

def yorick

[ebon condor]

depends on your deck and hand levels

and what yorick is at

[sick hemlock]

x5

flush is level 8

[white anvil]

Almost definitely yorick

[ebon condor]

ok def yorick then

[sick hemlock]

thanks everyone ^^

[midnight talon]

bro has brainstorm and yorick

br is def winning this run

[sick hemlock]

yeah i finally won purple stake

[wintry ice]

do i take halu over dusk

[tawdry beacon]

Which order do I sort my cards im new I haven’t beat the game yet

[wintry ice]

put bs on photo

maybe mime instead if you have a lot of steel

[tranquil steppe]

Disappointed to learn that brainstorm only copies diet cola if you sell brainstorm

[tawdry beacon]

I barley have any

[vestal copper]

oh my god

i had to sell ramen for the leaf took a judgement to maybe get a sticker and got fucking diet cola ‼️

[ancient gyro]

up 2 u

I might

[tranquil steppe]

Lmao I literally just talked about this combo

[tawdry beacon]

What jokers should I be looking for now

[wintry ice]

i did

[vestal copper]

quite funny that bs only got golded on this run

thats like my 7th gold stake

[wintry ice]

and then sold it for space joker because i was falling behind on levels

might take this over hiker

[ancient gyro]

woah

[wintry ice]

finally got a blue seal

[tranquil steppe]

I’m blue

[wintry ice]

i'm gonna sell space joker instead because of that

[ancient gyro]

oh

ig

[vestal copper]

blue yellow anaglyph zodiac ghost abandon checkered zodiac golded so far

what should be next

[tranquil steppe]

Black

[ancient gyro]

u asked

[tranquil steppe]

It’ll make all the other decks seem easy

[edgy stone]

Plasma. The best for gold stake

[wintry ice]

i ended up dying to the hook because i used too little glass cards

keeping space joker because of the glass cards might have been good

[ancient gyro]

what happened to painted deck

[fringe nebula]

you know what i'll say

||magic deck||

[vestal copper]

sure

[wintry ice]

i went to another profile to try the seed varv sent

[ancient gyro]

ah

[humble gulch]

Ragebait used to be believable

[wintry ice]

anyways do i forgo straights and do this

[ancient gyro]

prob not

[wintry ice]

gonna take and sell it then

[edgy stone]

Wdym? I love this deck. My first gold stake deck.

[ancient gyro]

ill go with something else

[brazen jolt]

why tf am i struggling so hard with the checkered deck??? I beat almost every deck first try except this one. 5 tries in and i dont even make it past ante 7

[fringe nebula]

what hand are you playing

[brazen jolt]

flush ofcourse

[restive mirage]

lord please

release me from your grasp

[wintry ice]

you don't always force flushes on checkered

you should check if the material in the run favors something else

thanks judgement

[brazen jolt]

arent flushes the most obvious to play

[edgy stone]

Aim for Supernova and you win

[fringe nebula]

nope

[random lark]

maybe go for flush houses later on?

[wintry ice]

again, it depends

[brazen jolt]

if you have +1 handsize you always have a flush

[brazen jolt]

hmm yeah maybe

[wintry ice]

what the fuck

[humble gulch]

I mean

[wintry ice]

i'm likely only going to take runner for stickers sake

but what the fuck

[brazen jolt]

I was trying to go for flusg 4 or 5 of a kind

[random lark]

on painted deck too

[restive mirage]

this is my first week. i will have 1000 hours soon

[humble gulch]

Plus 200 hours on my phone

[fringe nebula]

if the game gives you ante 1 certificate on checkered deck, what would you do?

definitely not flush

[ancient gyro]

hehehehaw

[wintry ice]

i guess that works for +mult too but

i'm hitting the greedy

[restive mirage]

griddy

[random lark]

you get the

[ancient gyro]

oh my campfire 🥀

[wintry ice]

runner is probably just unnecesary

should have taken campfire instead

[brazen jolt]

no ofcourse. But my last build was pretty good. I had burned joker and i got flush to lvl 15 or so. Still lost somehow

[random lark]

lack of xmult

[fringe nebula]

sounds like you're lacking in xmult

yeah

[wintry ice]

wtf do i even hang

[ancient gyro]

4 6

[restive mirage]

what is y’all’s fav joker

[naive jolt]

Rip can't afford it

[brazen jolt]

I had card sharp

[humble gulch]

Greenbo

[brazen jolt]

but yeah prolly

[rancid gull]

Wee is my favorite joker

[fringe nebula]

vagabond

[humble gulch]

Hit the road

[wintry ice]

i can see that not being enough if you had no other scoring

like if you had grimbo or some scaling chips, for example you likely would have been fine

[ancient gyro]

cause yk how flushes and mult jokers are in unison

[rancid gull]

I love golden ticket as well

[brazen jolt]

hanging chad

[humble gulch]

My favorite uncommon is bootstraps

[ancient gyro]

they don't get along too well

[rancid gull]

My favorite common to use is like probably golden ticket

[wintry ice]

actually if you had grimbo you'd probably do pairs instead

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[wintry ice]

anyways what do i hang here

jack and 4?

[ancient gyro]

I said 4 6

[rancid gull]

My favorite uncommon is shortcut I think

And I love wee for rates

Rares

[fringe nebula]

my favorite rare is vagabond
my favorite uncommon is cartomancer
my favorite common is hallucination

am i cooked?

[rancid gull]

And triboulet is my favorite legendary

[rancid gull]

I think bro likes tarot cards

[fringe nebula]

my favourite legendary is perkolator

[rancid gull]

I like jokers that support going the five card hand route

I crave to make five card hands

[humble gulch]

Oh no

[humble gulch]

Yo, Rick

[wintry ice]

cryptid on 6 i assume

[fringe nebula]

the things you can do when you have perkeo sometimes

[ancient gyro]

glass

[wintry ice]

it's also blue

[humble gulch]

Double greenbo

[rancid gull]

I think you really like tarot cards lol

[fringe nebula]

i mean

magic deck is my favorite deck for a reason

[rancid gull]

True actually

Fair enough

I think zodiac would be like right next to it for you

[wintry ice]

magic deck is fun

[ancient gyro]

it used to be my main deck

[wintry ice]

the game is showing me a lot of things that would be good if i didn't have madness

[ancient gyro]

at one point

[wintry ice]

zodiac is pretty fun so i get that

[ancient gyro]

campfire punishment

[wintry ice]

i really should have taken campfire over runner

leveled straights with madness just 1 shot everything but like wall, vessel and flint

[tawdry beacon]

Do I swap?

For smiley face

[wintry ice]

yea smiley likely isn't doing as much now

also are you on pc

[humble gulch]

My economy

[fringe nebula]

yeah with rental ramen idk

but maybe you can beat ante 8 without having to buy anything at all

[rich mauve]

splash and medusa done

idk why they don't name canio "here, win"

[ancient gyro]

is she in the room with us rn

[tawdry beacon]

No on psvita

[wintry ice]

ic

this literally isn't a bad idea

[ancient gyro]

not like you have better options atp

[fringe nebula]

ante 6 pants lol

[wintry ice]

i think my blue seals are enough for scoring

i'll just leave space for 2 uncommon or rare stickers

that works too i think

[rough stone]

show me deck

and hand levels

[brazen jolt]

you gotta be kidding me with this boss blind

[wintry ice]

scoring 300k rn

[fringe nebula]

if you are strong enough to beat ante 8 it should be fine

[rough stone]

roll down heavy ig

in the big shop

[wintry ice]

is it really possible to lose with holo cavendish and another 3x mult joker even with no money on white stake

[rough stone]

nah

[fringe nebula]

oh right it's

[wintry ice]

this has been evading me for a while

but again

i'm greedy as fuck

[rough stone]

you just win here

[wintry ice]

sure i could use some steel cards

[brazen jolt]

i think so, if my bloodstone doesnt let me down

[naive jolt]

What the bro doin

[rough stone]

prioritise rares ig

[rough stone]

try playing a straigh flush

[rough stone]

pride

[brazen jolt]

if the next blind is "all heart cards are debuffed" im actually gonna lose my shit (i have way more heart cards)

[wintry ice]

this is how the community sees blueprint

[brazen jolt]

its only lvl 1

i think im just gonna take the $0

im already hitting 200k now

[hard mantle]

i got my first bluestorm baron mime build yesterday

[rough stone]

it'll sitll win

[hard mantle]

yk kings have xmult, queens have +mult, jacks should get +chips

[rough stone]

200 chips in into some cavendish and stenicl and 2 bloodstone hits

crosses 40k

[naive jolt]

I like gay cards

[brazen jolt]

owkeeey lets go

[rough stone]

give thme x chips

[brazen jolt]

too late 🙁

[hard mantle]

WAIT I CAN CONTINUE

I FORGOT I DIDNT START A NEW GAME

[rough stone]

gg

[hard mantle]

xchips arent going to be added

[rough stone]

whats the updzte

[rough stone]

i know, just a joke

[brazen jolt]

which joke should i sell? cavendish right? and then blueprint next too joker stencil

[rough stone]

sell bloodstone

bloodstone on max procs gives you x7.5 mult

[brazen jolt]

hmm yeah maybe but my deck is almost all hearts

[brazen jolt]

yeah true

you are right

[rough stone]

taking bp on stencil is a guarnated x27

easy white stake win

what is ur flush level?

[brazen jolt]

8

[hard mantle]

i need a strength, chariot, and even more deaths

[rough stone]

i dont remember the chip and mult

[rough stone]

beware of suit bosses

[brazen jolt]

140x18

[rough stone]

a flush is an insta win till ante 8

i have this void after c++

[brazen jolt]

yeah looks like it. I'll take it to endless mode

[rough stone]

now what do i do

[shadow tangle]

Guys what should I do to get better at balatro

[split jewel]

I just realized that the X debuff doesn’t show the stake sticker or tags underneath

[hard mantle]

I HIT E FOR THE FIRST TIME

[fringe nebula]

by knowing the direction of where your run should go

and also checking the boss blind of each ante

[rancid gull]

Hell yeah dude!

welcome to the club

[rough stone]

gamble

[rancid gull]

i wanna hit at least e80 at some point

more than the amount of atoms in the universe score

[rough stone]

just completed a naneinf baron mime

[rough stone]

on a serious note, how much have you played?

[shadow tangle]

I'll send my profile

[weak relic]

$4 sell value

Mmmfgh

[woven spire]

hugeee

[shadow tangle]

It's meh

[woven spire]

congrats

[shadow tangle]

But I watch a couple YouTubers

Like roffle and rarran

[rough stone]

watch university

he teaches core stuff

[tranquil steppe]

Nice stuff!!

[woven spire]

yeah

doc is a must

[shadow tangle]

Drspectred?

Aight

[woven spire]

yep

[rough stone]

yess

[rancid gull]

docs is really cool

[shadow tangle]

Sounds good

I'll start now gng

[woven spire]

yes he is

[shadow tangle]

Also

[rough stone]

so my advice for now would be:

1. watch doc
2. learn synergies
3. LEARN TO GODDAMN READ

[shadow tangle]

I do like the first 6 decks and then I stop at checkered or smth

[woven spire]

what does 3 say?

[shadow tangle]

Then I go up a stake

[rough stone]

you will wanna punch yourself when you throw runs based on not reading the boss blind

[shadow tangle]

What's that weird symbol in between does and say

[tranquil steppe]

Like the mouth

[shadow tangle]

Ok

[woven spire]

i would focuss on unlocking every deck, then just play wtv you feel like

[rough stone]

i unlocked the checkered deck and took it all the way to gold stake

[woven spire]

thats what i did

[weak relic]

Im sorry I'm a balala player I cant read

[shadow tangle]

Daily reminder guys to go outside and have fun with ur life don't just stay inside and play balatro

[rough stone]

to learn the stakes

[shadow tangle]

Pick up a hobby to do

I do basketball

[rough stone]

balatro is my hobby

[shadow tangle]

Fah