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most of these are speculative ante 1-3 picks
unfortunately you need 4000 wins with madness, try again
tragedy
whats the point of campfire if it isnt constanty scaling?
so in a scenario where you don't have any non-eternal scoring that you'd want to keep forever
to give xmult
yeah but it resets
HELP ME
let's see if the bloodstone is going to mercy me or not
AYUDAAAAA
its constantly scaling
"come back to me when you've hit +$20 3000 times
"
it scales pretty good though
you can scale it all in the last few antes
it's not 7 c++ worth of wins
you can just buy and sell random shit and get insane xmult
joke obv
I mean you have a two pair. How much is that worth?
blue deck gold stake done
cant do two pairs
these jokers have the lowest win% for me, that doesnt make these jokers the worst jokers.
winrate on jokers doesnt mean as much as it does on decks or per stake.
what deck should i do next
forgot i need the legendary c** before giving my opinion on madness, rip
or can i
do you expect me to keep track of everytime i hit new run because i was not aware it miscalculates my stats?
but usually, i play it out till a loss
Should i do two pair
Back up ur save and do two pair
2 Js 2 10s. Can you go for another queen with your discard? getting rid of the Ace and 8
you have to keep jokers until you lose/win for them to count in your loss/wins, but for rounds it's just if you went into a blind with them.
that lucky card + glass could clutch
discard ace and queen and pray for a flush or fh?
bingo
so jokers you're more likely to drop tend to be ones you lose more with, proportionally.
look at riff raff for example
ill do it no backups
there's alot of junk you can find in the shop
you can easily get it to x4 or more, and win
Pull out the face cards
let's go gambling
And pray the lucky procs
+20 mult š
I expect to not use it as an argument crutch when it suddenly makes sense to make a correct decision for a pure numbers element
OMG only found hologram first shop ante 8 and const 2nd shop and the last bif of money i had had a wheel trigger on hologram
the reason why you have such a high winrate with madness is because madness generally isnt a joker you drop. it's one you keep until the end / it's a joker you only take when it's a good time to do so.
dont believe me then, its your choice
compared to like midas
nope, lost it
ghost deck hologram is hella clutch
IM DOING IT
bloodstone haters eating good
can you show me your per-deck win/loss at gold stake
it's not that I don't believe you, I just don't see the value in this image for the current cause of discussion
what deck should i do gold stake next
black
One piece pacing:
i only play yellow deck mostly, its 60%
unfortunate
that's pretty decent
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damn
is that for gold stake or for all stakes?
you can see per stake by changing the View to List
huh
all stakes, i dont know how to filter for gold (but the number should not vary)
im so fucking angry
which one is this
I got canio'd
r2 arcana š
glass
damn
it improved from 58% to 59%
168 wins, 113 losses
im so angry im going to draw jimbo killing himself
This run was so beautiful, I got lucky with everything I was handed. And I finally unlocked plasma!! 
youve pretty much only played yellow deck, damn
that might be the best eternal setup ive ever seen
guys i have a "backup"
its the best deck
blue is widely understood to be the best by experienced players
he hasn't suffered enough
no using backups is not okay
you havent played much blue so i'm not surprised you don't think it's the best
giveth my palette choice of challenge c++ suggestions
it's the simplest
yellow is more simple
yellow is simpler
+1 hands is better for more complex reasons
life is strange taught me that doing things like that never ends up okay
scoring, digging, scaling, etc
since you're instantly given the entire deck benefit
i understand those reasons
but yellow is just more consistent for me
i have tried blue too, but way less
yellow is easier early game. I don't think it's easier in the long run unless you're already good at econ.
how many runs
Blue just gives you leniency throughout
25
we currently don't have a highest yellow deck win streak
on gold
that's not much
@ localthunk fix your game why did i lose
How many runs did it take yall to get completions / c++?
50ish
One strength for us
if you only count gs runs
i was at ~170 wins for 100% on mobile, so that's including C+ and C++. 120 of those are from C+, so C++ took me around 50 runs
also challenges dont count towards wins
zamn
any invisible joker lover here? š«„
at least i dont believe they do
they dont
61 gs wins on black++
what does this mean?
the world record winstreak at gold stake is 93 on blue deck
yeah
and i think succulent is meaning that it's blue deck and not yellow deck because blue is better
can somebody enlighten me on how they play green deck
dont
pretty much the same except capping out at 20 bucks
and not immediately discarding
Oh hm it takes less than Iād expect. I thought youād be missing a random joker for 100 runs
i never beat it before, i grinded it yesterday to unlock abandoned, it took 40 runs š
you should be focusing on the hard jokers from the start so it shouldn't really get to that point
being more consistent at playing out runs and winning eases the difficulty in finding jokers to sticker in the second half of your runs
i never had the 5 hardest stickers left last in either C++ because i was focusing on getting them done the whole time
since my last jokers to sticker were just throwaway commons like banner and joker
Turtle Bean, Popcorn, Seltzer, Ice Cream, Gros Michel
Hi
i have both popcorn and gros michel now and i havent been going for c++ specifically for now
this was 1 win before i got the achievement (bug)
I think my last one was bean
3 of them having no stickers
my last 2 were marble joker and mime on PC
and my last 5 on mobile were superpos, shortcut, hiker, parei and DNA
not
my last joker was troubadour
a common and a rare in the last ones, hm?
i thought youd just end up with uncommons
though 5 jokers is a lot of jokers
theyre jokers that arent really that great, or theyre very swappable
which matters a lot for C++
Banana carry
Frankly Iām 5 wins in and I havenāt gotten a single run where my jokers and scaling were good enough to get anywhere close to gold stake levels. Not sure what Iām doing wrong eitherā¦
Iām making around 200-400k by ante 8 in a successful run right now. Idk.
Yeah you can 100% the game now
You ready
first and foremost, you probably dont have great econ management
check out balatro university gold stake runs
they really helped me understand what to do
Do you think drivers license should be uncommon
no
Iām just trying to get a decent Econ joker and save money where I can, not spamming rerolls and only buying arcana/planet packs
Driverās license should be 18 cause idk
Iām going for it!
honestly 20 sounds reasonable
18 and make uncommon perhaps
Might as well do 21
its 16 because that's how old you need to be to start driving in North America
It feels like an uncommon to me idk why
I know
why would you nerf it and then make it uncommon
I just donāt trust 16 year olds to drive a vehicle that COULD kill poeple if mishandled
yea that's what we're joking about
good thing you have to pass a test
I dunno Iām just spitballing here
if people who have passed the test aren't good drivers then it's an issue with the test
it's not about the age of the person.
Old people can be lunatics too
i personally think you should have to retest every 3 years regardless of your age
Like I donāt see how that could be wrong tbh
driver's effect makes more sense as a rare
"only buying arcana/planet packs" is definitely too restrictive
theres not much reason to be doing that so long as your econ can support what youre buying
standard packs are very good for blue seals
rarity is more about how much the joker's complexity and how it affects your decision-making for the rest of the run
than purely about strength
with yorick being an odd exception
This is a pretty sweet build
there are a bunch of rarity changes id want to make to make this be more consistent
i.e DNA and HTR to uncommon
I feel like the āif hand contains (x) hand then (x) mult
Both Natural Negatives too
Make all common
Imo Hanging Chad should be an Uncommon
I have also pivoted to buying joker packs but idk
Idk they donāt feel rare
Would fix a ton of balance issues
it wouldnt
if there was a legendary that just won the game instantly that doesnt make it balanced just because it doesnt appear very often
Most of my gold stake wins so far are because of photochad icl
the problem is you're being too restrictive on what you want to look for in terms of pack types
and how does uncommon chad solve the issue
and probably other stuff regarding what you take within the first 3 antes
ive seen people say rebate should be uncommon but its the same logic
it makes chad appear less often, it doesnt make photochad less strong
you're not nerfing anything by changing the rarity
htr feels like it fits as a rare for me
especially since rarity isn't supposed to be an indicator of strength anyway
Ok fair, but I do prefer Chad's new design to its older design
that's what multiplayer ballot does currently
yeah i really like this design (of multiplayer)
One retrigger didn't do very much
having to discard jacks every round for a temporary boost doesn't sound like an uncommon effect
and it crashing
old chad was terrible
Ohhh, i donāt keep up with multiplayer tbh
which is why the rework i've seen suggested, and agree with, is making it retrigger the first two cards once rather than the first card twice
it was bad and boring
with its other rare resetting brethren
now it's a free win but kami has a reason to like it!!!
What did it do
I like the first two cards idea
it nerfs most chad synergies without gutting it down to D tier
Kill you
Poop
old chad was D tier
it only (majorly) nerfs photograph, the others are still ok
C tier, let's not shit on it too hard
and photo wasn't on the map
you didn't know how horrid the meta was back then
Buddy I was here
I loooove photograph
chad working on 2 cards would nerf sandbagging a little
that doesnt mean you understood the meta
Even without Chad itās so good
like if you have one lucky card and play just that with chad to fish for triggers
i was here in pre 1.0.1f but i didnt understand the meta at all lol
you wouldn't get as much value from individual enhancements as you get with current chad
hmm, why?
firsthand?
should i take photo for vagabond? im playing 5oak/f5 with mult kings
no
i won a single gold stake run pre-1.0.1f, and that was on checkered
Yes, I used old Chad. It was bad but it still was workable
Yeah probably
requires twice as many cards drawn and scored as current ballot
i can imagine old chad was hard to use in old gold stake
probably
on old gs?
How do you guys think blue seal should be nerfed
Yes actually But
I highly doubt it made a lot of mileage
photo doesnt really do much here. if ur hands r level up its some nice extra mult but thats it
I'd say old Gold Stake mostly was different due to the Orange Stake changes
p% chance of producing planet instead of 100%, maybe around 50% is balanced
considering the prices you pay for the packs
combined with the fact that scaling pack costs means less gold seals, lucky and glass cards
gold stake was much worse as well wdym
well -1 handsize is pretty terrible too
that nerfs even pairs significantly I would imagine
and directly nerfs Chad
That's true, Lobotomy was basically the only viable thing
and with old blue seal, on-score xmult was way worse
since you're less likely to find the card you want to trigger ONCE
only good thing about -1 handsize is blackboard buff fr
and fisty
And technically fist
it was worth it lol. 35k per hand to 120k
vampire was also meta which meant that enhancements were way more often just for vampire fuel
and trading card
I kinda like how hand size is in the game lowkey I think itās a really interesting stat
low handsize helping to fist...
this amounts to it just being okay and boring after the gold stake changes
yeah ok that makes sense
yeah, it had two other quirks
it also wasnt scoring
Remember when Campfire was slightly stronger
nice debuff loser
What if it was .125 perhaps
"slightly"
bruh
midas also-
Yes, because rentals are free campfire fuel
that's insane
yeah
and so did midas
Rental is actually a buff to campfire
rentals dont matter anywhere nearly as much as double scaling
I guess, but it's still a good Joker
How do old camp work
in my experience you don't even use the rentals for campfire very much
ppl who hate campfire have never gotten past 3x with rentals and consumables
i primarily use consumables to scale campfire
Twice as fast
same but 0.5x
Hot damn!
you need an open slot and eternal rentals obviously don't work
i don't think rentals make it that much better
you forget campfire still gets indirectly nerfed by current rentals
yeah lol
rentals? I hate those guys
less money snowballing
its a slight buff, but people sometimes say that campfire was nerfed because of rentals being added which i dont think is true at all
campfire at 0.5x was just ridiculous on its own
yeah
not marginal but not giga strong
Also while we're on the subject
campfire is still great at purple
I would saw a few more rerolls
it's just another option
nah
hell yeah, got the stone joker in the medusa challenge
it was miserable
Level 0? You don't remember level 0 hands
but planet levels didnt matter anywhere near as much as they do now
so it wasnt really that big of a deal
i remember I just have no feelings towards it
15 dollar investment tag
no we do not
joker skips used to not even be free lmfao
I like how every iteration of Bloodstone has been bad design
Lmao I remember that
experimental patch bloodstone was ridiculous
But now they're awful because of the Rental and Perishables
it was definitely overtuned
doomed from the start I guess
bring back +8 mult bloodstone
I guess that makes more sense
forgot about that
no bean :<
I mean just don't skip generally
yeah of course
charm tag š£
How can AJ's design be so good but bloodstone so bad?
what if they added a joker that has a 1/2 chance to give 1.5x mult for played hearts
Oh Dear I did it
Only skip thatās really good imo is like investment first ante
thats a lot of balalo
What was this?
1 in 2 for 2x
Make it guaranteed
Sorry I just popped in
but chance suits every round
Skipping to keep a winning perishable alive
any tips for bean farm
2x seems crazy
here win
it was crazy
plant seeds and water them properly
Skipping to keep madness from sliming a good non eternal A8 
Not gonna lie, I love the additions of Rentals and Perishables
fertilizer
Adds so much variety to the game
When banana kills itself on the last round before debuff
oh wait wrong context
Damn, Perishable really do be one of the most unfun video game mechanics ever developed.
Oh, you rolled the perfect joker for the build you're running? Yeah you get that for 5 rounds and after that you can't play your build anymore. At that that point, it's too late for you to change your build and good luck rolling something else that works for your now dead build that doesn't scale anymore this late in the run. May as well reset for the 20th time.
Maybe give the player money or something of the like after the 5 rounds so it doesn't feel like an entire waste to get them. Sure you can still sell them after, but does selling DNA really feel good in any scenario? (The past 8 times I've rolled DNA in a run with perishable it has gotten it). .
I don't mind mechanics in games that limit your normal abilities, but to do it in a way that's just straight up "yep you can't use this thing you invested resources into anymore at all ever again just because" is just poor design.
I also don't think jokers should be able to roll BOTH perishable AND rental..
THAT is just straight up BM design.
Just give mechanics = feels good
Give and take mechanics = feels REALLY good
Just take mechanics = feels REALLY bad
kxm nb,a,snd s,lamejecocm cm ,
poly gros michel died on round 20 ā¹ļø
Okay I can understand why you glaze it
I had nanners kill himself at least twice on ante 8 while I tried to gold sticker him
Reddit post?
You don't enjoy the run to the end of Ante 8 with a Perishable that wins?
But the activation for it is so long and dedicated
she's always on reddit
this is like a year old
it was an average of 1.5x per heart, so ~7.5x on average for a full flush of hearts, compared to 1.25x per heart which is an average of ~3x with current bloodstone
shocker
Reddit be taking their fundamental misunderstandings of video games and applying it to other games
I bet that mf talking about tempo in Balatro came from Hearthstone
Damn, losing really do be one of the most unfun mechanics developed.
ggs that was a good one
lol ante 9 photochad
im gonna be real, I didn't read the shitpost
We about to square up fr
Hit the road carry
it's not long or dedicated. unless you have green joker or ramen or youre on green deck, you should be discarding stuff anyway.
yorick is +1x per ante, which isnt long at all
thats not that odd
tl;dr "perishable is an unfair mechanic"
I say tempo a lot
Todd
Psychic incoming
Chavez
i hope you see psychic
I saw that coming
Past blue stake maybe, but even past blue stake it still scales pretty quickly.
yeah there were llike 11 jacks it really carried
it goes from 1.5x per ante to 1x at blue stake
which is still very good
I GUESS it can apply to early antes
Like oh I have optimal scoring at ante 2 I guess that's tempo
HTR is one of those picks that works like 7% of the time
I mean I can see why someone won't like perishable, it doesn't really change the way you play like rental does
Don't ask me where that percentage came from
I thought bloodstone was 1.5x right now
tempo is definitely something that matters. the earlier you get your run going, the longer you have to scale before you need to take desperation scoring
My rule for rental is just being at $28 and having econ past that
I love hrt
If I get psychic I'll know who to blame @random ice @cloud sinew
Good, die for your hubris
it's 1 in 2 for 1.5x, which is 1.25x on average.
50% for 1x, so expected 0.5x
50% for 1.5, so expected 0.75x
0.5x + 0.75x = 1.25x
My problem was definitely more with the campfire hater misusing the term
blame yourself
(another old image) "we're winning big tonight
"
oh i was just saying that generally, and i think tempo isnt something that's mentioned enough
I also just used ectoplasm and got this š
what
Also I get slight whiplash from tempo being mentioned
Temperance value
it's why interest is so important. getting your econ sorted early gives you way more shops where you dont need to make desperation plays
one econ source per rental
Abstract joker value
Yea that will usually do it
And that's assuming that you haven't found any extra sources of discards, and it's still extremely good
Depending on how good the rentals I will just tank
oh š„
Types of posts where people don't get the game but are willing to write entire paragraphs about it despite being wrong
wdym "just used ectoplasm and got this". it's the only joker it couldve hit and you got that joker BEFORE using ectoplasm dawg
mmm
all the time spent not playing black++
had the spirit of Roffle, Doc, and Northern for this run. Was a fun ride
negative nl is crazy
I didn't think that clearly š I thought I was gonna have foil negative eternal half joker
I can't reset it either cuz the game saved it
This is lowkey just pair spam for modded
So I am gonna have to play with Ectoplasm Negative Juggler
this is a foil abstract that's trying to be supernova
i cooked
It's basically banana/summit with chips
Eternals and rentals are goated mechanics because they force players to evaluate if the risk to reward ratio is good enough to take a joker. It adds complexity to every decision.
Perishable doesn't really add a risk factor aside from maybe selling a normal joker to gain a power boost
Idk I never cared too much about perishable jokers, they just exist.
the jokers that do chips and mult are quite specific; scholar and 10/4
My foil square jokers basically do this
Cloud 9 value
Tell me you got cloud 9
Seeded naneinf it is
perishable š
Rentals are awesome because there are several legitimate cases where a joker is made better by the existence of rental tags, either on itself, or on other jokers
why am i scoring so low? i feel like it should be higher
Neato Jokers seem like an endless type mod tbh
Riff raff, chaos the clown
FROM what I've seen
cola
whats your cards
actually
and how muhc handsize
You mean eternals?
there are like very few cards which arent helped by being rental
in some scenarios.
red seal steel kings
Well actually some of the jokers aren't too bad
too much on mime
No, rental is what I mean
Rental golden joker
im assuming he just moved them there for money (hopefully)
you are copying Baron at least once during scoring right. Just assuming you moved them for money at the end
ohh yeah
Atleast you got it for 5 rounds
retroactive scalers (and htr/campfire) are directly affected for perishables
whats yo handsize
Not sure Iām following. Isnāt the average that 2-3 hearts trigger, so 2.25x-3.375 right now?
actually thats still a lot idk
oh no i didnt move any? am i supposed to move it?
oh youre not on plasma
The only situation where -3 dollars per round is good for you is maybe vagabond
nah ghost
the average triggers is 2.5, but that's not what the average score is
plasma squares your score so try that as well
I wouldnāt take rentals with vagabond
The fact that a joker buys and sells for the same amount is whatās important here
That just means you stay broke
Right which is why I said 2-3
Thatās what makes some jokers better in some scenarios
it's not 2-3 though, it's 2.5
Like bad broke
Oh that
I forgot about that icl
you don't need whole numbers for averages
I just mean youāll either have 2 or 3 trigger on average since you canāt have 2.5 in the game
that's not how averages work
you want a fairly balanced amount of barons and mimes. I'd say in your case I'd just have both the blueprints copy the Baron and then you switch the Baron to the right of the brainstorm right after scoring so that Mime gets the copies for gold cards if you have them
You can buy a joker to get immediate value (hallucination, cartomancer) and sell after you get said value.
Also campfire just benefits from other jokers being rental
I understand
if you have two people in a room, person A is 6ft and person B is 5ft, the average height of people in the room is 5.5ft
even though nobody in the room is 5.5ft tall
ahhh i see, i got no gold cards tho, thats why my eco is so poo
Goated math
the average family has 2.3 kids
Man I would hate to be born as a third of a kid
is the third kid 1 third human 2 thirds something else
is this true
and the latter third isn't recognized by society
@grok is this real
it was true a few years ago, probably less now
the way you work out the expected value (mean) of chance based multiplication is by doing sum of all (chance x outcome).
so with bloodstone you have two events; 1.5x and 1x, each at 50% (0.5)
0.5x1.5 = 0.75
0.5x1 = 0.5
0.75+0.5 = 1.25, so the expected value (mean) of bloodstone per heart is 1.25x
My point on eternals also benefiting the player still stands though
Ankh becomes significantly more powerful and madness is no longer a glorified jokerless run
eternals are less helpful overall than rentals are
rentals can make pretty much all jokers more viable in some situations, while with eternals its only a couple of cards that are affected
Thatās a good explanation for 3.05ish x mult
you're sometimes forced to take a bad scoring joker as eternal
Trueeeeee
skinkina is a joker now huh
any non-detrimental non-eternal rental is worth picking up like 99% of the time you have an open slot
crazy
wasn't saying anything about eternals in my original message, just wanted to talk about how rentals are cool and interesting. eternals can be fun but a lot of the fun to be had with eternals isn't really relevant to most ante 8 runs
Not too common, scaling +mult jokers aren't very uncommon so you'll usually find something early on
cool
"detrimental" being jokers that can/often do have a downside by just keeping them; splash, showman, troubadour
Same
i would say perishable is the least interesting of the stickers
but it still changes decision making in an interesting way
Is this card rare ?
yes, it's as rare as soul
Yes
0.3% per card in an eligible pack
Nah I like the increasing prices
Soul?
and adds a niche to skipping other than investment
Hushhhhhh
Yeah no shit I did
I won't spoil it, you can find out easily by looking it up if you'd like
old orange stake was miserable
No it sucks because of high gravity
astronomer was way stronger and red card was like D tier
Nvm I looked it up, I had it already a few times, just don't know every cards name yet
I imagine perishables would be a lot more interesting if they didn't take up a joker slot, but that would probably make them blatantly overpowered seeing as now the only risk is the cash you spend on it
Black hole should proc constellation
same with hallucination, it was way worse. i think hallucination was actually the worst tarot gen
Itās so rare
it's not a planet
And it shows up in planet packs
them being negative would make it so that perishable econ is an always take
.9x + mult incoming
"I've received many feedbacks on blue stake so I decided to turn it into -1 discard, -1 hand size"
-
Exactly
?
unless you make it a planet card then I don't think it should
Thatās what the + is for
i'd prefer if black hole was a neutered down version of white hole from cryptid
Yeah but those hands are kinda bad
it's always 1.2x if it procced constellation though
it would never be 0.9x
it would either be 0.1x or 1.2x* mb
Ah fair
Exactly
Maybe if that was added localthunk would have to add econ jokers to the list of non-perishable jokers.
As it stands now though we almost never interact with perishables because selling key parts of your build is not worth picking up a glorified food item. They pretty much only ever exist to the eyes of the player in the early game.
like making it choose some random hands and subtract levels from them to add to either the most played or the highest level hand
my invis has 1 more round left before i can sell it, is it just more worthwhile taking dna for the extra few cards for first hand?
ok idk if this is a hot take but i have enjoyed myself on gold stake a single time and that was the first time i ever played it and got a crazy wee
i just genuinely cannot have fun when i canāt make it past ante 2
that's crazy
wee
my wee was massive
shhh not during lent
but i usually play on white stake most of the time
Hack that wee
oh my good I'm weeing it
a tense run can be as fun as an overpowered run
True
plus my goal isnāt c++ or even c+, just to play the game
White stake is so incredibly easy after playing gold only for like 300 games in a row
Why not just play white stake?
me moving onto pairless++ after black++
yes take the dna
oh boy
with a chariot to make it a steel
Red⦠uh.:. steal????
I was thinking stone
hey apple
i was thinking miku miku oo ee oo
The annoying orange is banned here
For what purpose?
Too citrusy
Annoying orange joker
Good. He must stay banished to the depths of hell.
are lemons fair game
And the shadow realm
All oranges are now knives
Go on
Pick up the mercury
Succumb to the pairslop
Hereās the code if yall want it 1GM3YPCB
Insane start to a run, sadly there just was nothing to use it on and it results in failure. This is the 2nd run in a row that gets past ante 2 then just fails to actually do anything.
I died but not the way you said @random ice @cloud sinew
Found this unseeded
when she straightslop on my till i
Till I
till I
till I 
I lost this cuz I was trying to use Canio. Went to ante 7 with no x mult from Canio...
Canio might be worse than Loyalty Card
Like there is just no econ early game at all. You are required to start with an econ joker otherwise you just die.
The only thing it did was give temperance value and made my stencil worse
Average canio run. Hanged man disappears and glass cards refuse to break
i get a decent amount of hung men when canio shows up
I had 2 glass jokers and I used them like 4 times
Not with that attitude
None of them broke
i mean you were running a joker that needs a lot of econ
Then tell me how am I supposed to do literally anything in the position Iām in. Like Iām screwed.
were you expecting anything else
Give jimbo a little kiss
Little though
"""""Legendary""""" joker getting mogged by a uncommon
Any more and youāll explode
Honestly I WISH i could find Jimbo. A $2 card would be more than enough.
If If sold Canio I actually would've won šššš
makes risky decision
it goes wrong
"this game rigged the run to not give me what i needed for the risky decision to work"
*Gary
Ah sorry
Give jimbo *Gary little kiss
I wouldn't have taken flash card tbh
Yeah so your solution is die sooner? 10/10. i already sold out of flash as is.
dna still a better option than 2nd barron?
No what I mean is that you could've upgraded your planets and played 5 card hands for a bit
Ahhh yes let me just pull planets out my ass
This run failed?
Not yet but this boss will kill me.
I'm probably gonna take a bit of a break from Naneinf pushing
my mind literally went numb while playing
Would hieroglyph help you stay alive?
Iām not even there anymore. I sold a bunch of stuff and went back in time.
guyz do i swap 1 baron for dna?
Oh
this doesn't line up with my recent achievement
Straight or Flush for a bit would've been fine, that's what I do when I get early photo personally
But ye sometimes it's just luck
When will the new Balatro update happen
When its done
kms
Itās gg.
Yeah you literally canāt do anything with this deck unless you get econ in shop 1
NOT WORTH IT. DONT TAKE IT I LOST CUZ I TOOK A SOUL AND GOT THIS SHITTER
Did you get a Hireoglyph in the early antes?
black deck is genuinely terrible
I already reroll mash for perfect start. It fucking sucks that i now have to reroll mash for econ too.
you just have to pray to find a seed where u dont lose by ante 2
Canio lowkey worse than flowerpot in my eyes now.
crazy
Flowerpot will trigger in 8 antes
blame the user not the tool
Yeah i was forced to take it otherwise i die.
ight
Fair
You can go 8 antes without getting face card destruction
It made me last 2 more antes but there was at no point any econ anywhere so it literally just couldnāt keep up.
If you can make it 8 antes with a dead joker slot you kind of good
Or without pivoting
flower pot is f tier
im out of profiles on my phone to test out their seed
Ghost deck is probably one of the worst decks in the game. Instead of just killing you in ante 1 over and over again like most decks, it forces you to die in ante 2-4 over and over again, wasting your time with seeds that canāt be done.
Notice how you got it when it didn't even matter
canio requires 1 action to be good
That one action is incredibly inconsistent
I would've died to vv
Thereās so many ways to generate tarot
wouldnt say its that bad
You sometimes literally don't get death, your glass cards don't break
It needs to be buffed
death?
ragebait
is the best way to get c++ just anaglyph deck and negative tag
Canio needs a buff????
Like?
all tarot gen jokers
Superposition, Vagabond, purple seals
grape seals
Honestly I think Iām just gonna give up on gold stake. Just like Iāve given up with black deck. Itās not reasonable to do unless you are willing to sit there and spam reset for hours of your day.
8 ball
hallucination
early on yeah it's fun lol
Bro said superposition ye okay
mf said 8 ball
?
superposition is great
nice ragebait buddy
I don't do this btw, it takes some previous gs experience on other decks
see you wednesday
Superposition hate is way overblown
but near the end I wouldn't rely on it because it's too random
Most decks donāt involve more than 5-7 tries max to get gold stake completed. Black is the big exception
superposition with shortcut is insane
You can maybe get something
8ball is bad that is just true
make it 1 in 3
ive only beaten 4 decks in gold stake c++ seems impossible
You're not a believer
And then it too does nothing
Oh god, The Wheel sucks
Just be a believer
Yes
I have too many screenshots to prove against this debacle
Yes it does
The presence of 8 ball means that 8s are higher on the āwhich number do I hangā list over 7s
I mean Iāve made it to ante 7 Gold Stake twice. Most runs that get past ante 1 die because of no money.
Sounds like an anecdote to me
Have faith in localthunk RNG
Trust the process
I forgot luck was skill
7s are good for Odd Todd
If the wheel never hit, it's because you don't trust it
We will hang 8
And straights
you have too many screenshots to prove that pot and throwback is good too
tbf nobody here would really dare try attempt the things I do in this game simply because of how difficult it is
Every number is good for straights mane
one sec
oh no
Or a skill issue per succulentsupplecheeks
oh no
Superposition
not again
But but but 2
Yeah but be fr are we building odd todd into sevens
Wow I wish it was that reliable. After around 20resets no runs can win at all. It sucks.
Throwback is amazing
(in full skip runs)
I honestly thought your name said āviolent vesselā
W. Something I missed out on because I wanted to use Canio
Oh. I have never reset
you and 67 other people
bro
I play what the Balatro gods give me
Me when I pull out my ACE straight
There's no difference
we're playing balatro
I'm gonna say it too so that there's a total of 69 people that told you it
What if I was just playing deltarune
I guess we really can't read it
You're play balatro while I'm play balala joker poker
Violent vessel
I mean? Congrats on wasting your time I guess?
i never read their name as violent vessel š
7 single pair can be kinda clutch sometimes with Todd cuz it lacks chips early on
tf are yall on
The vessel is violent
Your ace, king, queen, jack, 10 straight RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT?????? insert kronk meme here
you're old
Bro what
Violent vessel be like hollow knight
Ppl call violet vessel violent vessel bc it's the most consistent gs run ender
Take 7 and replace it with any other odd number
true tbh
ADHD, Mountain Dew, and a whole lotta dopamine
Not wasting. It teaches you how to adapt in a lot more scenarios instead of resetting til you get photochad in ante 1
True..
time is never wasted when you're having fun
checks out
Wonder why 7 has no jokers
3 and 5 are hackable and 9 is cloud 9
tbh that's why I chose it as a name
7 gets nothing
fucking shoot the moon š
its so stressful trying to activate drivers license when your life depends on it
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Stm is good
Nah like deltarune
7 is Slots
it's decent š
having it as most used is fucking insane
Itās consistent
I think it is
Wow amazing. My definition of fun isnāt dying to round 1 and 2 for 45 minutes before getting a run that gets past ante 2.
Iām usually able to deckfix lots of queens
I think we need to define what consistent means
deltalala
when do we get pipis joker
Ayo
That is literally not consistent
You should be dying on ante 1-2 maybe 1% of the time tbh
it's completely dependent on card draw and has variance especially early on
amphy is literally the john balatro reddit ššš
thats not what consistent means
The ONLY deck that is more efficient to play no mater what rather than reset for good seed is Black Deck, and thatās because it would take literally days of resetting to get a workable run.
Let it out ampharos
"i lost because i had no econ" mf there was burglar and to do list ante 1
Well for me it provides consistent value
just don't do that lol
o @glossy mortar
I typically build towards faces anyways
why would someone need to reset repeatedly at all, isnt the game about working with what you get?
yeah
Thatās what I was saying. Iāve literally never reset
I WISH it was that low. 90% of the time is the realistic number.
Welp idk what else to tell you without sounding mean
Its about how you want to play it lol
i only ever reset if i did some horrible mistake and go like "why did i just do that" which is like
pretty rare
My face cards are scoring in the millions! This is a free win! No itās not. The Plant
ššš
Let me just pull econ out my ass when I need it, or xmult, or chips, or whatever I need that never shows up when I need it.
What does reset mean
because I feel like I miss a lot when I don't oneshot first round
Luchador or mistaaaaaaaa bones will save you
restart the run
well you missed a couple
lmao
Dear John Balatro. Please give me a Luchador this reroll. If you can hear me. Please John Balatro I need this
your run btw
I just get new runs when I lose or don't want to play that seed
Ahhh yes the ETERNAL RENTAL BURGLUAR that I couldnāt even afford.
Lord Canio, hear our prayer. Give us this day our daily Luchador as we forgive all bloodstone haters.
it was eternal
There was no todo list I saw
sub five pair spammer vs chad retriggermaxxing bloodstone user
worth the joker slot that early
Don't call it lord
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Spammmmmm
yall be surprised when amphy makes bad takes like its not all amphy ever does whenever he appears š„
What is this š
@gleaming bane go pound sand
Ban
mods
@ mods
mods
We all gonna be tailing in here tonight ššš
why argue online when i could work out
bro got eviscerated
Wait I forgot the rule that Iām mot allowed to disagree with people and am required to be a yes man
Lord Canio is the Balatro Bishop. It is known
Iām sorry i forgot.
second shop
Yes. Bow down. Be a sheeple. Obey. Obey. Obey
Nobody follows that rule
Bro is not a sheep
you need to stop blaming the game for every loss
Loyalty card mogs Canio
what did I just open chat to
that's all
youre allowed to, however you literally get explained why what you said is simply incorrect and you just never even try to listen and/or just double down
It's ok to be a no man vs good, keep being a yes man ahh
If you say so. I was banned for it. I am literally required to follow it.
Lmao ampharos is literally a sheep
violent vessel
I thought Ampharos was like a higher lifeform of a sheep
š
mareep is literally a sheep
Sigh. No pokemans fans here
So then what is flaffy
Sheep
Most that happened to me here was getting muted for a bit cuz I made an Stein Island joke š
Ohhhhhhh
Theyāre all sheep?
Yes
Ampharos doesnāt even get fur until his mega
yeah belive it or not
I hate that gen 8 sheep so much
It will never match mareep
Mid
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Flaaffy - Toad's Daily PokƩmon Ranking, 180 : r/pokemon
Yes, Flaaffy is considered a pink, bipedal, sheep-like PokƩmon. It is the middle evolution in the Mareep line (evolving from Mareep and into Ampharos) and is designed to look like a partially shorn or patchy sheep, featuring wool on its head and back.
Reddit
Reddit
+3
Key details about Flaaffy's design:
Appearance: It is a pink creature with patches of white wool.
"Sheared" Concept: Unlike its predecessor Mareep, which is fully covered in wool, Flaaffy is designed as a sheep that has lost much of its wool due to storing high amounts of electricity.
Name Origin: The name is believed to be a combination of "fluffy" and "baa" (the sound a sheep makes).ā
PokƩmon?
yoo I also saw ts
I mean fair. Mods here are strict. No disagreeing no conflict. I have to agree with everything.
amphy is the new bitcoin baron
Heās a shaved sheep
on instagram
Nicee
sorry but how are you losing this much on round 1/2? you can get past pretty easily with just a high full house or flush alone
yes
Oh. How have I not been banned then
I got it from there!
John balatro?
This doesn't even make sense like ye ofc you use Kings?
Idk.
how they tease me
I didnt say love bro
we have disagreements here all the time.
What a pity
amphy making stuff up
yeah
you can literally play however you want as long as you enjoy the game, but amphy does not seem to enjoy the game at all š
per usual
OMG YES I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT PIC
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
what indicates that it was because of that instead of your sore behaviour?
I was about to say something like: "What a party pooper" but, you know, that works too
sore loser incarnate
No plants is based
It's canio... do i keep him or no?
best version of robotnik I think
robotnik is a nanlet š„š
Dr Robotnik is a photochad user
yea
last time amphy was here arguing with lilo
shocker
Everyone argues with lilo
You can sell Sixth Sense but I honestly think Sixth Sense would be more consistent than destroying face cards for Canio
no? i dont think i ever really had a serious argument with her
I never had an argument with whoever Lilo is
Mainly because I don't talk that much on this server
Lilo chill like that
Temp ban for 4 hours for being āextremely combativeā
Maybe
Exactly, got super lucky to get dna right after 6th sense, absence i get canio i never have the setup
Lilo is the opposite of chill lol
what was the message in question
???
and none of the 4 hours was enough for you to reflect on the fact that you are, indeed, combative?
You must have upmost care when you post in Balatro discord
atp just ignore amphy š„
amphy can't take credibility for their own inputs in a game that ppl can do just fine with
Yes I do
in said same game
Just wanted an excuse to use that picture
How does one know that itās canio
Well thatās just mean
save scumming
Was amphy mean?
I open real quick then i close lol
Lilo is amazing. They are the reason I learned about misprint strat. The most powerful strat in the game. I use it for every single hand and itās saved me on literally hundreds of rounds. Sadly it still isnāt powerful enough to win most high level decks/stakes.