🕹・game-discussion

[cedar stone]

Imagine

[cloud sinew]

:( im at 1499 btw lol

[ancient gyro]

cool

[patent sail]

AND IT DIED THE NEXT ROUND

[potent mirage]

Yes yes yes!!!

[knotty zodiac]

rip

[spring granite]

were not lucky enough

[patent sail]

food jokers are literal ectoplasm magnets

[ancient gyro]

did you not play the face cards after the lucky cards 😐

[patent sail]

if i have one it WILL land on a food

[wintry ice]

you can queue up for a casual match in their server

[upper spade]

I didn't have anything usable for a Straight.

[knotty zodiac]

or a perishable ya

[cloud sinew]

Runner is huge i think

thats my chips sorted

and bye riff for 4f

[ancient gyro]

im just saying in general

opportunity for a higher score benefit

[patent sail]

i hate straight builds so much

i dont need all 4 of my 5s, can i have a single 4

[knotty zodiac]

always bottomdeck the straight somewhere in ante 6-7

pain

[wintry ice]

runner and 4 fingers is awesome

[wintry ice]

haha

[ancient gyro]

I love straight builds

also I thought royal flush required you to have an ace in current coding

[knotty zodiac]

theyre a lot of fun once the deckfixing is good enough

[potent mirage]

Nice start

A2

[cloud sinew]

I think i take campfire over 4f?

[cloud sinew]

It doesnt

[ancient gyro]

aw man

[white coral]

A

[cloud sinew]

The logic is a straight and flush with all ranks >= 10

[white coral]

New name idea

The blue background is so fire

I cant describe it

[ancient gyro]

for vv I'll take it
assuming pair build and runner being caked up enough

[ancient gyro]

ace downscale 🥀

no longer balatro royalty

[kind creek]

What do I do for blueprint? here

[wintry ice]

a hack maybe

[tacit quail]

hmm

[kind creek]

yes, all I play is Flush five red seal lucky 5s by now

[tacit quail]

there should be a deck fixing skip tag

[kind creek]

no deck fixing is needed

[wintry ice]

or cat if you've already seen head

[cloud sinew]

Acorn lol

Streak of 3 incoming (if i dont fuck it up)

[kind creek]

I have seen head, however my entire deck is either lucky or steel

and I have oops

also, ante 12

[cloud sinew]

A pack where you destroy cards could be cool, like the opposite of a standard pack

[tacit quail]

Incinerator pack

Shredder tag

[rough stone]

my mod list

@cloud sinew

[wintry ice]

removes 2 random cards (has a 100% chance of hitting 1 or more blue seals)

[livid temple]

how dogshit am i at this game

i forgot i put burnt that high maybe knock it down a tier

[rough stone]

Jonkers and Jerkers,
I have news.

I am 46 jokers away from C++

[vestal copper]

not that bad a few mistakes here and there but the general direction is good

[wintry ice]

trib and burnt in the highest tier is questionable

the middle tiers are also very bloated so you could split them

[celest roost]

ate good 👍

[cloud sinew]

I dont need to hold red because of the sell bug, so im gonna hold bp

[wintry ice]

like every value generator in ok should be moved up

[ancient gyro]

shoulda had a pocket priestess

[cloud sinew]

I would say youre not great

[wintry ice]

what is the sell bug

[sterile zealot]

Folks, I just started Balatro. I’ve won 2 runs and lost 2 runs. Guess how I’ve won both of them

[cloud sinew]

On mobile the sell icon on the joker isnt meant to be there; it just appears sometimes and doesnt go away until you exit out

its another thing that counters acorn lol

[wintry ice]

oh

[ancient gyro]

hold a purchasable card for a certain amount of frames and the pc ui for selling will appear on mobile

[sterile zealot]

Yeah. I’ve won two runs and both were with photochad

[wintry ice]

i thought it was something with it being greyed out on eternals

[sterile zealot]

Am I cooked

[desert pebble]

showman hate... wow

[wintry ice]

oh yeah

the mid tier does not seem very mid

[sterile zealot]

Also DNA in mid is absolutely insane

DNA my beloved

DNA best joker

[wintry ice]

both jokers are kinda winmore

well showman is just winmore

[south flower]

Any advice for the golden needle challenge?

[ancient gyro]

get lucky

[patent sail]

my first 3oak win

chuddy ass hand

[desert pebble]

flowerpot in mid is kinda wild

[potent mirage]

Yes

[patent sail]

its just pure rng

[sterile zealot]

DNA isn’t win more it’s valuable deck fixing imo

[desert pebble]

guys please pray for me to not get another pairslop build next run

[wintry ice]

you need something worth copying for it to be worth taking

[south flower]

Any specific joker I should hope to get early?

[wintry ice]

like a gold card minimum

[patent sail]

probably like

acrobat, rebate or vagabond

[ancient gyro]

while eating your hands and not removing bad cards

[cloud sinew]

Major disagreements (2 or more tiers out of place)

Should be lower: Triboulet, Photograph, Scholar, Baron, Hiker, Family

Should be higher: Dagger, Juggler, Faceless, Vampire, Square, Cartomancer, Red Card, Ride the Bus, Certificate, Midas Mask, Obelisk, Baseball

Thats not all of them, just the ones i care to mention atm

[wintry ice]

bloating your deck for speculative 4oak value is also just

not a good idea

[ancient gyro]

did you say vagabond 💔

[patent sail]

youll be broke anyway

[wintry ice]

it's 1 hand per round

that's a cartomancer

[cloud sinew]

Acrobat isnt great early as xmult isnt great early

[desert pebble]

i once had fuckin 3 econ jokers and 2 of them were rentals

[cloud sinew]

and you want to be winning as early as possible* because of hand money

[desert pebble]

and 2 of them were perishable also

[ancient gyro]

it's one hand 😐 about every other tarot gen yields an equivalent amount

[patent sail]

oh well you probably know better

[patent sail]

my bad yeah i didnt think that part through

[cloud sinew]

Are you hating on vagabond

[potent mirage]

Jokers that generate money are crucial and often determine success.
Strong RNG factor, so difficulty varies significantly depending on boss patterns.

[sterile zealot]

I’ve lowkey just used it to copy face cards or just any high value card to fix for a nOAK/facecard build and it’s been helpful (cuz apparently my mulligans are cursed and can’t find anything)

[potent mirage]

Straight or Flush builds are recommended; Pair and High Card are inefficient.

[cloud sinew]

Pair is meta

[patent sail]

its not too useful in that challenge

worse cartomancer IN THIS SPECIFIC CASE

[wintry ice]

anecdotes don't tell the full story

[ancient gyro]

you know me

[cloud sinew]

Oh right, golden needle

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[cloud sinew]

The most RNG part of GN is Water

IT SHOULD BE BANNED

[potent mirage]

for golden needle

[patent sail]

yeah i made the same mistake

[south flower]

Thank you

[patent sail]

the entire challenge should be

its pure rng

[cloud sinew]

Its not

[patent sail]

is it not

[cloud sinew]

No, its just very difficult

[patent sail]

90% rng 10% difficulty

[cloud sinew]

i beat it 3 times in a row when i was doing challenge gauntlet

[potent mirage]

stabilize your economy early → build for a one-shot scoring hand → secure money synergies.

[wintry ice]

the purest rng there is on that challenge is water

otherwise it's a resource management test like the rest of the game

[patent sail]

im yet to beat that fucking challenge and its actual pain

[cloud sinew]

voucher tags are a must on golden needle

if you dont have water defense you just die

[patent sail]

i got arrowhead and was winning so hard and guess what boss was up next

after that i never tried it again because its just pure nightmare

[ancient gyro]

cool it's basically black deck with specific limitations on an easier stake

[wintry ice]

the decision of not getting planet levels to cover for your main source of chips being unavailable for 1 round

[cloud sinew]

Heiroglyph and Troubadour are free basically

as you cant go below 1 starting hands

so take those whenever they appear

[sterile zealot]

we love gambling and pretending water doesn’t exist

[patent sail]

in fact im gonna go play that shit RIGHT NOW

[cloud sinew]

Lemme go a golden needle run rq

[sterile zealot]

Isn’t hieroglyph normally an auto take anyway

[cloud sinew]

ill lyk how many attempts

[patent sail]

Its one of two i have left

[cloud sinew]

GOD NO

-1 hands is awful

[patent sail]

thank you game for ante 1 madness on GOLDEN NEEDLE

so useful thank you

[sterile zealot]

I must hail from an old meta, because the YouTube video I watched basically said hieroglyph ~ 2x mult, and 2x free mult and -1 hand is pretty good

[patent sail]

and luchador i guess ill gake that one

[tacit quail]

i only take if i'm playing stuff that requires first/last hand buffs and/or i've taken +1 hand size before

[serene forge]

tbf hieroglyph gives you one more ante for water to show up and kill you

[tacit quail]

or if it's ante 1 shop because a0 is funny

[torpid bridge]

They are useful in many cases but you not auto take

[tacit quail]

but if it's golden needle why not take it

[sterile zealot]

Play high card so water doesn’t do anything 🧠🧠🧠

[sterile zealot]

(Obviously joking btw)

[patent sail]

okay i know its a joke but

what does it even mean

[sterile zealot]

Cuz you don’t know what hand you get normally but if you’re playing high card you get high card

[ancient gyro]

where is the punchline

[patent sail]

👊 ➖

[wintry ice]

only on blue deck imo

[sterile zealot]

the joke is that high card is like not viable

usually

depends on what jokers you run into

[serene forge]

hiero is the most overrated thing ever

[wintry ice]

it's just barely worse than pair

[patent sail]

hologram ugh

[wintry ice]

and covers the same niche

[patent sail]

i dont wanna kill lucha for it

[serene forge]

?????

[cloud sinew]

Thank god i took directors cut

[cloud sinew]

High card is viable, its just that pair is better

[patent sail]

so what do i even do

[tacit quail]

wraith in the spectral pack 🙏

[patent sail]

nuh uh there wasnt ❤️‍🩹

[ancient gyro]

i feel like my pairless++ runs are just going to be full of 2 pairs 🥀

[tacit quail]

to be honest

hologram into spectral isnt awful if you pull incantation

instant x2

[wintry ice]

i'd sell supernova for it and then take the spectral pack

maybe luchador instead of supernova becauae your only mult is banana

[ancient gyro]

luch dies, you have enough for wall

[patent sail]

its there for water

[cloud sinew]

Im winning my first attempt i think

already seen water + i have dcut

[ancient gyro]

omg my gs pilled cranium i

yeah nova dies

[sterile zealot]

did the meta for the game change wtf I remember a few years ago when I watched this game nobody played high card except for naneinf runs

[rich depot]

ts server tag is peak

[sterile zealot]

Am I stuck in the 2023 meta

[wintry ice]

erm then why is it shit

[tacit quail]

runner run begins

[wintry ice]

barely anyone knew the meta at the game's release

[patent sail]

runner run

[cloud sinew]

It wasnt even off-meta in 2023, high card used to be meta because of old gold stake

[tacit quail]

A Few Years Ago

[wintry ice]

and yt videos aren't a fully reliable source

[sterile zealot]

I’ve been watching the wrong YouTubers what

[cloud sinew]

100%

[tacit quail]

who u watchin

[sterile zealot]

What now, is Photochad also secretly awful

[rich depot]

have you seen markipliers playthrough

[patent sail]

my banana exploded im done :3

[cloud sinew]

No, photochad is good

[ancient gyro]

there wasn't really a right ytber at the time

[sterile zealot]

I think Roffle was one? Can’t remember the others

[tacit quail]

Hmm

[ancient gyro]

yeah he's not entirely credible

[wintry ice]

well it's not a fully instant win

[patent sail]

yeah i did

[wintry ice]

that's not healthy

[cloud sinew]

but the reason why photochad is so good is because of blue seal meta and its not vulnerable to plant if you plan around it (glass on non-faces as one example)

[sterile zealot]

Yeah I literally just got the game and played four runs. I won two by abusing Photochad

[patent sail]

that challenge is actual medieval torture

[sterile zealot]

My only wins are from this godgorsaken combo

[patent sail]

banner tho?? crazy value potentially

and wee uhhhh idk

[wintry ice]

the only actual issue i have with photochad is that it's a bit of a crutch

[sterile zealot]

yeah fr

I have no idea what I’m doing, I pick up Photochad and business card, I win

[wintry ice]

this means business

[tacit quail]

Bro i forgot to buy more jokers

[cloud sinew]

This should win

[tacit quail]

scaling runner is so fun i forgot i was playing balatro

[sterile zealot]

Is misprint good?

[cloud sinew]

It did

[sterile zealot]

Never used it

[patent sail]

blackboard i mayyy

[cloud sinew]

Its good for the early game

[tacit quail]

Solid +mult that sometimes is good and sometimes isn't

[ancient gyro]

my issue in practice is that it takes 2 slots
my issue in vibes is that it's boring af

[tacit quail]

Use it if you would use +10 mult and gamble a lil

[sterile zealot]

One game I had Photochad and chicot

I was facing slot poverty

[wintry ice]

photochad and chicot is just a win

[sterile zealot]

Yeah it was also very easy

[wintry ice]

like you barely even need blue seals now because there's no wall or vessel

[sterile zealot]

Photochad + glass face >>>> wall/vessel

[ancient gyro]

pairs still go hard with photoslop

[tacit quail]

time to max scale squoker

[twin lantern]

Nah

[cloud sinew]

bye scary

[ancient gyro]

welcome back

[cloud sinew]

honestly might take hack too

nah i wont

[tacit quail]

oh this boutta be some bullshit run

[tacit quail]

no... i missed out on max scaling by 1

my 4 chips </3

[vestal copper]

not just four but FOUR chips

[patent sail]

nat negative on golden needle run ❤️‍🩹

good one too, sure

[drifting gorge]

why is flower pot in mid it's literally the worst joker
splash is actually kinda good sometimes
look i get photograph is carried by synergy with great tier cards but also looks inside

[patent sail]

FOIL ACROBAT

[cloud sinew]

Ive found myself doing a lot more maths to maximise scoring, particularly "can i throw away a higher rank high card and still get the scaling". I won by 1k against vessel recently because i minmaxxed my scaling to that degree lol

[tacit quail]

yeah i been doing that

it's fun

[drifting gorge]

holy shit that's crazy close gg

[cloud sinew]

Splash is rarely ever good

its sometimes worse than having nothing

like with Bus

[drifting gorge]

fair, i forget the few good splash runs i've had were modded, nvm i'm dumb

[ancient gyro]

splash is what I associate with as underrated trash

[cloud sinew]

I agree

[patent sail]

i may be doing it i sure hope i dont jinx it!

[cloud sinew]

its bad, but its still underutilised

[ancient gyro]

🗣️

[cloud sinew]

Lmao

burglar splash bus is a deranged run

[tacit quail]

dont hate this setup

[cloud sinew]

"Dont draw faces"

[wintry ice]

all in ass build

qait

[ancient gyro]

I got rewarded for it :)

[cloud sinew]

Any one of those with bus would be miserable

burglar bus is already risky, splash bus is way too dangerous

[tacit quail]

space joker time

[wintry ice]

is space joker a chip scaler

[ancient gyro]

and don't greed on psychic

[tacit quail]

prolly

[ancient gyro]

think of it as a built in square nova

[tacit quail]

playing 20k high card squarehands rn

[ancient gyro]

but with variance

your joker optimization hurts

[pale wolf]

balatro?

[tacit quail]

why

[cloud sinew]

looks inside

[tacit quail]

it's whatever

[cloud sinew]

bye agate

[patent sail]

no wtf thta game sucks

[ancient gyro]

nothing ever happens

[pale wolf]

oh :c

[tacit quail]

man this space joker sucking rn

[pale wolf]

vaccuum of space

[tacit quail]

guys

[ancient gyro]

gee I wonder why

[tacit quail]

sigil with blackboard

1 in 2

hmm

9 handsize

[wintry ice]

"nothing ever happens" mfs when they discover that a vaccum still has energy

[tacit quail]

wait until i get all dia/hearts ig

[cloud sinew]

How many reds in hand is an important factor

and how many blacks total in the deck

[tacit quail]

it just converted 5 diamond and 4 heart into 9 hearts </3

useless ah

[cloud sinew]

Castle synergy

[ancient gyro]

already has squimbo

[tacit quail]

ratios post this

[ancient gyro]

and uh

[patent sail]

im getting 30-40k score but im lowk finding NOTHING that would let me increase that score idk what to do

[tacit quail]

god awful space joker 0 proc on my pairs in 5 rounds when i'm doing like 2-3 ppr

[cloud sinew]

ive had it not trigger for 26 hands in a row

[tacit quail]

(pair per round)

[cloud sinew]

which is fucking insane

[tacit quail]

tbf

i had it trigger 6 in a row once

so

balance

ima rip the wraith fuck that space man

what i getting

[wintry ice]

tribe

[cloud sinew]

its ~1 in 180,000

[patent sail]

banner found

[tacit quail]

if your answer was "Nat Neg The Order" congrats you're right

[wintry ice]

what the fuck

[midnight tartan]

time to make a straights build i guess

[tacit quail]

i guess its emergency x3 for later

space joker went 3 for 3 on flushes when i was getting rid of my sigil hearts btw

actually dumb

[spring granite]

flush is just the better hand I guess

[tacit quail]

6 rounds of it and i got nothin

[ancient gyro]

you weren't in a dire situation to throw away your red suits immediately

also didn't move blackboard at all for scaling purposes

[tacit quail]

nah i want money a little

flashcard

hand moneys useful rn

[patent sail]

hologram but im broke uhhhhh

[ancient gyro]

for what, half of a reroll for +2 mult lol

[tacit quail]

yeh

[ancient gyro]

😐

[tacit quail]

with x3 its good

ish

its what i rolled onto so i have to run it

[patent sail]

can i even do anything here

[tacit quail]

u understand how runs go

[wintry ice]

no

[patent sail]

oh well

[ancient gyro]

would've had better scoring ev had you fully utilized hands for space/squimbo

[tacit quail]

i mean i'm only leaving like 1-2 hand on the table

[patent sail]

if i dont think anything after this ante im dead

[tacit quail]

after burglar

[ancient gyro]

even if both give diminishing returns, it's still 1 mult

17% chips per round

[patent sail]

yeah im dead

new record i guess

[ancient gyro]

almost an additional space level and same amount of mult iirc

[patent sail]

fuck this challenge

[tacit quail]

we are past it anyways im using 6 hands to score 250k so i need somethin more

[wintry ice]

i mean money shouldn't matter that much since you rolled down for wraith

[tacit quail]

Thank You very Much

[ancient gyro]

cool

[tacit quail]

runs won

The Violet Vessel:

straights against vv would work

dont need to scale square during it

[ancient gyro]

i fear how many flush runs I'm going to get in my pairless++ profile

[tacit quail]

just find 2 straights

[patent sail]

66k ughh

[ancient gyro]

is this dating advice

[wintry ice]

polycule edition

[tacit quail]

permanent +8 mult negative on pairs or dont sell hex

[signal brook]

Its like free shi

Take

[ancient gyro]

what happened to the other run

[tacit quail]

1.1mil violet vessel

💔

[ancient gyro]

oh

do you have the seed

[tacit quail]

i'm only looking for pareidolia and glass joker idk why i played that run anyways

no i forgor

[ancient gyro]

I wanna try something

oh 🥀

so it was a waste of time regardless :(

[tacit quail]

yeah

i mean i had a glass card

so coulda got lucky

[midnight tartan]

i would probably go with the negative, since you can’t guarantee you’ll even get a good hex

[tacit quail]

yeh

[midnight tartan]

it either takes to long or you use hex on a bad card to stay alive

but sometimes it works

and it’s awesome

[stark charm]

Do you play pair?

[tacit quail]

a lot

[stark charm]

Then you should just take it

Polychrome is kinda meh anyways

[midnight tartan]

you only need the hand to contain a pair, so i’m pretty sure you can also use it on most hands with some light deck fixing

[tacit quail]

run died btw

wall ante2 boss

[midnight tartan]

damn

[ebon maple]

Does 5oak count as a two pair?

[cloud sinew]

no

two pair is specifically two pairs of different ranks

[ebon maple]

Sad

Thought that 4oak was included

Tysm

[tacit quail]

stone joker hex and pray or do i open the 6 or the 4

[cloud sinew]

i would take lusty

and keep hex

[ancient gyro]

busty

[tacit quail]

maybe

[ebon maple]

I mean it is 6/7 dollars

[tacit quail]

i dont need it for ante1

ante 1 is free jokerless if you discard good

might keep

money

[cloud sinew]

you can always open the buffoon and then if you dont get anything good, sell hex and take lusty

[stark charm]

Joker that help on ante 1 can help you produce more money

[tacit quail]

true

[patent sail]

lilo literally how did you do it

the needle

[stark charm]

Because you use less hand

[tacit quail]

Okay what's the worst decision here

[cloud sinew]

i dont know uhhh

[patent sail]

its eternal suffering: the challenge

[cloud sinew]

i just did it :(

[midnight tartan]

sell hex and move on

[ancient gyro]

photoslop

[cloud sinew]

i can walk you through my run step by step if you want

i can do another one

[tacit quail]

I'm not doing that to it

[ancient gyro]

sex hex

[midnight tartan]

my bad

[stark charm]

Sell hex buy megabufoon and skip for non existence red card card value

[patent sail]

i died with 66k to ante 7 because found nothing to increase my score

[tacit quail]

it's only jumbo

[stark charm]

True

[patent sail]

and even that because some stupid lucky shops early on

[cloud sinew]

i think opening the regular buffoon is optimal

[cloud sinew]

and then if you dont get anything worth, sell hex and then buy lusty

[tacit quail]

i'm opening big buffoon because nobody suggested it and i'm unique

[ancient gyro]

i

[tacit quail]

regular pack would have been the first 2 cards

i like that dusk

[cloud sinew]

STEVEN

TAKE STEVEN

GOOD GOD

[ancient gyro]

thats not how packs work

[cloud sinew]

yes it is

[tacit quail]

i swear it is like there's a joker order

[cloud sinew]

packs work in a queue

[patent sail]

rebate found run saved

[tacit quail]

yeah

[cloud sinew]

and the packs just show you x cards in the queue

[ancient gyro]

guh

welp punished

wait how does telescope queue work

[cloud sinew]

wdym

"telescope queue"

[ancient gyro]

with celestial packs

[tacit quail]

telescope queue we all heard of that right

guys

[pale wolf]

telescope just overrides the first slot

it replaces what would've been there

[ancient gyro]

so it just resumes the queue

[pale wolf]

i dont think it pushes things forward

[ancient gyro]

ok

[cloud sinew]

im not sure

math hasnt stated anything on it that i can find

so ill do some testing

[tacit quail]

update on this run

[pale wolf]

i have done testing on this before but i dont have the findings anymore

i'm pretty sure the queue isnt changed by telescope

[cloud sinew]

im curious what happens with telescope if you have everything at 0

[pale wolf]

telescope just overrides the specific slot

[cloud sinew]

i would assume it just gives neptune

as thats how it handles tiebreakers normally

it picks the higher hand's planet

[pale wolf]

in what situation

bc ox is random

[cloud sinew]

no it isnt

wait you mean

[ancient gyro]

I had a run where I had three hands tied for most played but the win screen displayed high card as my most played

[pale wolf]

between all tied top hands

[cloud sinew]

okay i thought you were mistakenly attributing it not being your highest to it being random, it's that it picks your most played when it appears

i didnt know that it was random between your most played

[pale wolf]

yea it is, which is strange

i'm 90% sure thats bc it is different from telescope which chooses highest

and that would be neptune yea

[cloud sinew]

idk why i was searching for seeds with telescope ante 1

when i can just compare nebula to non-nebula

🙄

[wicked rover]

well how helpful

[ancient gyro]

a third impact has landed

[pale wolf]

i just had a cool idea for a deck

[ancient gyro]

me too

[sterile zealot]

I see a lot of people who hate the bus, is it really that bad? Seems like a mid joker to me

[pale wolf]

where?

[ancient gyro]

quite the opposite

[tacit quail]

Wow the ominous red liquid

[ancient gyro]

500 lava boulders

[wicked rover]

bus is great for abandoned

[ancient gyro]

any deck*

[pale wolf]

rtb is the 3rd (?) best +mult scaler, on all decks

[ancient gyro]

just in general

[ancient gyro]

yeah I can see pants and red card higher

the argument at least

[sterile zealot]

Some YouTube comment section / the subreddit

[tacit quail]

First shop weegee i BETTER pull wee

[sterile zealot]

I do like face card builds tho

[ancient gyro]

yeah don't worry about them

[pale wolf]

most people arent attempting to think about the game

[ancient gyro]

not autistic neurodivergent enough

[cloud sinew]

Okay its weird.
It "holds back" the queue for that slot i think, so the queue starts after thr first slot rather than it replacing what would have been there in the queue

but it DOES replace black hole which is weird too

[ancient gyro]

lol

[pale wolf]

oh realllly

[cloud sinew]

Yeah

wtf

[ancient gyro]

this makes my pairless run slightly easier

[pale wolf]

ok then i was mistaken

[cloud sinew]

no worries

its good to have concrete evidence of stuff anyway

which is why i tested it

[solemn sonnet]

this game bro i buy matador and then get chicot

[ancient gyro]

thank you zebuh for lying in my face and this experiment

[tacit quail]

whatever the hell with this 14k

[sterile zealot]

Awesome Deck Idea:
Magic: the Gathering deck
You have a mulligan button. Draw your hand size, then return a card to your library’s bottom. You get -1 hand size for turn. Return more each time you use the button.

[cloud sinew]

im looking at my mobile stats rn

[sterile zealot]

surprised you started 5oak so early I didn’t think you could fix reliably enough

[tacit quail]

eh i need it

[cloud sinew]

these are my deck stats for mobile on my main profile

[sterile zealot]

Jimbo where are your scoring jokers

[tacit quail]

just took double skip for 25$ and 3 4oak levels into the wall

🌞

[marsh swan]

Plasma deck

[cloud sinew]

yellow being one of my lowest winrate is because of C++

[solemn sonnet]

im on plasma deck and i got banner next shop

so thats that i guess

[tacit quail]

yay

[solemn sonnet]

And foil odd todd

[tacit quail]

flush four 🗣️

solid 70k

[cloud sinew]

my least used tarot is Star

[sterile zealot]

why twos

[wicked rover]

i have a strange hatred for six of clubs

[tacit quail]

I do not control the oija

[sterile zealot]

I have a dislike for the suit fixing tarots

[cloud sinew]

i love the suit fixing tarots

[gentle basalt]

Is this a mod?

[tacit quail]

proc 20 dollars 4 times PLEASE

[sterile zealot]

My play patterns just guide me into NOT flush builds

[cloud sinew]

https://balatrostats.com

[tacit quail]

wow no money but lots of mult proc

[cloud sinew]

it works for android and steam

[mossy orchid]

THIS GAME IS SO ADDICTING dont know why it took me so long to play the game

[gentle basalt]

How to use it for android?

[tacit quail]

accidentally played a pair on the mouth 🗣️

[deft sandal]

why am i getting every single econ joker

[tacit quail]

i have such an irrational hate for even steven

odd todd is a friend but steven gtfo

[sterile zealot]

what’s the move chat I suck at early game

[wintry ice]

buffoon pack first

[molten thicket]

buffoon

[deft sandal]

LIKE WHAT???? EVERY SINGLE ECON JOKER IS SHOWING UP

[molten thicket]

sell pants for econmaxxing

[random ice]

Lmao I still got it

Took 3 ectos

[cloud sinew]

• go to Google Takeout (takeout.google.com)
• Deselect all, then select only "Google Play Games Services"
• Scroll down to "Next Step" on the bottom of the page and click it
• Send download link via email as a .zip (file size doesnt matter) and then click Create Export
  You'll have to wait like 10-20 minutes for it to be sent to you, but you can then:
• unzip the Takeout .zip, then in the unzipped folder go to Takeout -> Google Play Games Services -> Games -> Balatro -> Saved Games -> and click on the #-profile.jkr that you want to see the data of (mine is my 1st profile, so 1-profile.jkr)
• on balatrostats, upload the data.bin of that profile (you will have to change the "JKR File (*.jkr)" selection to be "All files" in the bottom right of the file explorer to do this

[deft sandal]

then I will die lmao

[gentle basalt]

Thanks

[molten thicket]

yeah but you'll die rich

[sterile zealot]

Thank you chat this was a good idea

[ancient gyro]

😀

[deft sandal]

????

[molten thicket]

holy shit

[mystic vale]

damn i got really lucky

first time with the cavendish too 🔥

[cloud sinew]

i wouldnt take satellite here

[deft sandal]

definitely not taking it

I have seen every single econ joker in this run

[cloud sinew]

1.1 will make it so that blueprint and brainstorm now copy downsides /j

[marsh swan]

Supernova with obelisk

[ancient gyro]

more joker incompatibilities

[gentle basalt]

honestly cannot understand why they are not legendaries

[mystic vale]

same

[wicked rover]

worth

[pale wolf]

because then you'd basically never encounter them? lol

they're designed to be in runs fairly often

[slow iris]

i don't think they're worth being legendaries

[pale wolf]

legendary isnt just "this is a relly good joker and if its too good it goes here" theres design behind it

[slow iris]

they're not always the most powerful

[gentle basalt]

blueprint is usually at least "your most powerful joker", but it also doubles your econ jokers

[pale wolf]

still stands that the copy jokers arent the best jokers in the game

[gentle basalt]

they are, easily

[pale wolf]

lol.

thats all i gotta say

[cloud sinew]

brainstorm definitely isnt

there's a strong argument to be made for blueprint, sure.

but brainstorm struggling with +mult/xmult positioning makes it significantly worse

[pale wolf]

i've seen arguments for every other potential best joker more than for blueprint

[molten thicket]

if bp/bs becomes a legendary that would just suck

[pale wolf]

yorick, rebate, cavendish, blackboard, etc

chad

:^)

and brainstorm is a fair step behind yea

[molten thicket]

not every really powerful joker needs to be legendary

[cloud sinew]

honestly

[marsh swan]

High scores are pretty much incomprehensible without bp/bs

[wintry ice]

blueprint would also need new artwork to match a jester

[cloud sinew]

i would like to see a mod that matches rarity and strength

[molten thicket]

yeah

[gentle basalt]

yorick is not even that strong.... many xmult jokers like constellaton/vampire/hologram can keep up in the right conditions

[wintry ice]

high scores aren't what the game is based on

[pale wolf]

i dont consider your take valid

at all

lol

[cloud sinew]

"can keep up"_"in the right conditions"

yorick is +1x per ante

[wintry ice]

well that's the thing

[cloud sinew]

which is madness scaling

[pale wolf]

yorick doesnt have conditions

[gentle basalt]

yes , they are uncommons

[marsh swan]

Rare mail in rebate

[wintry ice]

"in the right condition"

[pale wolf]

and so is way better

[wintry ice]

while yorick needs nothing

[cloud sinew]

that doesnt really matter

you just get those more often, that doesnt mean theyre better than yorick

yorick is +1x per ante with room to grow

and doesnt get hard countered by any boss

[gentle basalt]

i agree they are not better, but yorick is not much better

[mystic vale]

can i get achievements in challenges?

[cloud sinew]

madness scaling that doesnt die to any boss in particular is very strong

[wintry ice]

hologram and const are 0.5x per ante on average at base

[pale wolf]

you're just lying if you say anything consistently matches yorick's scaling

[wintry ice]

vampire varies wildly and disables played enhancements

[gentle basalt]

you can definitely do vampire at 0.3-0.4 per round easily

more if you have good tarot generation

[deft sandal]

should I sell pants? I'm going for gold stickers

[wintry ice]

with midas yes

[cloud sinew]

no, besides Rule Breaker and Rule Bender

[wintry ice]

at base? no

[gentle basalt]

without midas

[deft sandal]

I have passed the plant

[plucky shuttle]

That requires other things to be involved

Going in circles right now dude

[wintry ice]

not on any stake higher than blue

[pale wolf]

I don't think that's a realistic figure for every single round

[ancient gyro]

both are if cases that require external support

[cloud sinew]

2+ enhancement tarots a round is not easy to do at high stakes

[deft sandal]

pants at +60 mult

[pale wolf]

you can easily get .4 in A round but not every round

[cloud sinew]

i find that I get ~1 enhancement tarot a round with vampire, it's a slow scaler.

[wintry ice]

vampire usually scales by 0.2x per round on average

[deft sandal]

lv 12 two pair

[wintry ice]

not being able to play lucky and glass can also suck

[devout wasp]

the best joker is actually whichever joker i most recently won with 😌

[cloud sinew]

let me do the math on how many times youd need to roll, on average, to get ~0.3-0.4x a round
(this obviously isnt taking into account arcana packs)

[gentle basalt]

on average, you can do 0.3x for sure

[gentle basalt]

purple seals and arcana packs exist too

[ancient gyro]

you're not going to find a better value and effort ratio that compares close to yorick for how little you have to change your play style

[wintry ice]

that's still 0.4x mult off of yorick's base scaling

[ancient gyro]

both cost money at base for it to activate

[cloud sinew]

purple seals are niche, and arcana packs obviously matter but im not calculating that rn

[gentle basalt]

which is why I agreed yorick is better
the key word is "not much better"

[pale wolf]

you can build up to that rate near the end of a run but that is not from the time you start scaling vampire. you dont have the income for it

[wintry ice]

0.4x is far more than "not much"

[deft sandal]

i also found vampire so i sell chad for it

[wintry ice]

with a lot of room for improvement too

[cloud sinew]

also vampire makes econ much harder because you can't use luckies and golds are hard to keep around

[wintry ice]

vampire has an actual downside unlike the other examples given

[pale wolf]

occasionally you get very good purple seal games that have lots of tarot generation and help vampire massively just like sometimes with yorick you have merry andy and both discard vouchers :P you cant just take lucky scenarios for one and not the other

[ancient gyro]

compared to what? this is going off of resource management which yorick at baseline requires fuck all management

[gentle basalt]

well, 3-4 planet cards are also not hard to get per round

[ancient gyro]

money intensive

[cloud sinew]

3-4 planets is a lot of money

[wintry ice]

3-4 planets is like 9-16 dollars

[cloud sinew]

not even considering rolls and packs

[wintry ice]

without discount vouchers

that's the budget you usually have to spend on each shop

[ancient gyro]

yorick also doesn't come in rental format if you want to assess gs perks

[pale wolf]

youre getting 2-3 tarot cards in slots and 3-4 planets per round on average? what mods are you playing on 😂

[ancient gyro]

which then affirms what is the best scaler for your money in terms of what you get via packs and consumables

[wintry ice]

having madness compatibility is the only real upside those jokers have over yorick

[gentle basalt]

random planets, yeah
after ante 5 at least

[ancient gyro]

after ante 5

[wintry ice]

stake?

[pale wolf]

breh

[ancient gyro]

now we're just saying things

[pale wolf]

thats more than half the antes thoughhh

[gentle basalt]

gold stake purely...

[fringe nebula]

holy shit this run was really rough until i managed to find driver's license lmao

[wintry ice]

so only on 3 out of 8 antes

[ancient gyro]

3 antes for not even guaranteed scaling oh my 🥀

[wintry ice]

while yorick has access to fast scaling right from the get go

[pale wolf]

yorick is immediately at his full scaling potential, barring finding things that improve it beyond the best scaler already in the game

[gentle basalt]

but yorick is heavily bounded, unlike vampire and especially constellation
you can get faster scaling towards the end than yorick

[ancient gyro]

assuming we go with their flawed logic of money/mult conversions

[ancient gyro]

heavily bounded to what

[gentle basalt]

heavily upper bounded

[wintry ice]

vampire and constellation are heavily bounded to your economy by that logic

[gentle basalt]

econ is easier than 2 specific jokers/ 1 voucher

[cloud sinew]

(4/28) per slot to get a tarot, so (8/28) for a tarot on average.
5/22 tarots give 1 enhancement, 3/22 give 2 enhancements
if you average across all tarots you get 0.5 enhancements per tarot

to get 0.3x per round you would need to see/use 6 tarots per round.
(8/28) tarots per roll on average means youd need to roll 21 times to get that (disregarding blocking).
blocking brings that up to 14 times, and this obviously isnt accounting for packs or alternative sources of tarot gen

[ancient gyro]

you're saying money is easily dispensable as a best/most consistent argument? it doesn't make sense

[deft sandal]

4 new gold stickers if anyone fucking cares

[wintry ice]

well you need to get that econ to even be comparable to it

this is a game about consistency

[pale wolf]

thats insane money generation on average even for past ante 5

[wintry ice]

don't base viability on if statements

[pale wolf]

this person needs to start streaming they're the next doc

[fringe nebula]

ecto play to have more jokers i approve

[cloud sinew]

that also assumes effectively infinite consumable slots without blocking so you could use every enhancement tarot presented to you

youre hard capped at 0.4-0.6x per round with vampire realistically

[runic mulch]

NOOOO! I failed naneinf, that was my first unseeded run where I had a chance, but I didn't scale my cryptids fast enough and never got the voucher that would let me get an invisible joker

[gentle basalt]

the alternative sources are pretty powerful...discounting them completely is unfair (for vampire, both standard and arcana packs work)

[cloud sinew]

im not discounting them completely

[ancient gyro]

not all the time

which was the initial statement of discussion with yorick against uncommon scalers and their "need" for their scaling requirements

[pale wolf]

that is just for shop slots yea

[deft sandal]

I found chad for photo at one point so I use it for space and I find brainstorm the next shop reroll

[pale wolf]

but yorick doesnt need even shop slots

so like

[deft sandal]

Yorick sucks

[deft sandal]

on gold stake

[pale wolf]

L

[gentle basalt]

this is stupid bruh

[ancient gyro]

baseline value, ricky has complete access to it's high scaling

[fringe nebula]

?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[cloud sinew]

packs contain 2 shops, the odds of those being any arcana pack are (17.84% + 8.92% + 2.23%) = 28.99%

[slow iris]

yorick good

[pale wolf]

yorick is consistently rated by skilled gold stake players to be top 5 minimum if not top 1

[gentle basalt]

standard packs also work for vampire

[cloud sinew]

not well

also im doing it bit by bit, relax

[wintry ice]

would you bloat your deck for 0.1x mult

[gentle basalt]

you can definitely get one enhancement per pack (usually)

[ancient gyro]

wow, .1 for 4 bucks

[deft sandal]

if you cant find any extra discards, Yorick on gold stake requires 3 blind just to scale +1x Mult

[slow iris]

i would for +0.25x

[pale wolf]

yea and they get harder and harder to find and it makes future modifications you do in shop harder to find as well

[gentle basalt]

yes, thats very strong

[slow iris]

those who possess the knowledge

[wintry ice]

so, it's a good rate?

[ancient gyro]

which is good?

[wintry ice]

what's your point here

[deft sandal]

I would rather take obelisk

[wintry ice]

you expect jokers to scale at +2x per round?

[ancient gyro]

well obbylicks is a different question entirely

[pale wolf]

ok, which scaling XMult doesn't suck then?

[deft sandal]

Ah yes, my lucky cat does

[wintry ice]

at what occasion?

[deft sandal]

every

[wintry ice]

which one?

[deft sandal]

fym which one

[pale wolf]

i'm leaving, this chat is having the absolute stupidest takes

[wintry ice]

well it can't scale that fast with 2 lucky cards and no retriggers

[ancient gyro]

yeah lilo can take it from here

[pale wolf]

"why would i buy a bicycle in the city when a snowmobile goes WAY faster? and i've used a snowmobile in canada before so i KNOW how fast they go, i'm not getting a bike just to go to work SLOWER than a snowmobile"

[fringe nebula]

uhhhhhhhhhh

[wintry ice]

mfs trying to justify SUVs be like

[pale wolf]

genuinely the logic being used

[deft sandal]

Like? How you comparing yorick to any xMult joker

[wintry ice]

well this is endless

[ancient gyro]

this isn't gs

or a8

[cloud sinew]

im saying that deck bloat for 0.1x isnt usually worth it, and you arent guaranteed to even get an enhancement.
theres a 40% chance of each card being enhanced, so 21.6% of the time you wont get an enhanced card for regular standard packs and for jumbo/mega you're expected to get 2 (matters for mega), but 8% of the time you wont get any enhancements for jumbo/mega

[deft sandal]

Show me a yorick that goes to 100x on ante 16

[wintry ice]

this also isn't a realistic scenario

what are you getting from ante 16

[ancient gyro]

why? the game ends at a8

[fringe nebula]

runs past ante 8 don't exist

[cloud sinew]

high score runs dont really matter

the only thing you ever need to go into endless for is petroglyph

[pale wolf]

endless mode
post game

[cloud sinew]

the game is balanced around ante 8

[pale wolf]

not the game

[deft sandal]

Damn, everyone hates fun ig, just playing for win

[wintry ice]

i could show a run where lucky cat is at 0 by ante 32

wouldn't mean anyrhing

[pale wolf]

😭 thats what we're saying jokers are better or worse for, WINNING

[wintry ice]

well, what do you think the subject of the conversation is?

[ancient gyro]

fun joker ≠ good joker

damn if only I had conversation skills

zebra what happened to the skyblock world is it just dead now

[wintry ice]

if only i could read to see what the context is

[ancient gyro]

im desperately in need of a topic change rn

[fringe nebula]

agree

[pale wolf]

we can play sometime i just wish my internet would be acceptable

[wintry ice]

i've been stuck at post-mech waiting for a plantera bulb to spawn

[pale wolf]

ive been playing mount&blade bannerlord

[ancient gyro]

never heard of it

I'm trying out the calamity update

[wintry ice]

i need to make like 2 billion wood walls for my underground jungle herb farm

[ancient gyro]

which is

yum

[wintry ice]

the cal update is cool

[pale wolf]

balatro

[wintry ice]

it made it have content to look forwards to

[pale wolf]

balatro was on sale

[ancient gyro]

im cycling between 4 worlds id be lucky to make room 🥀

[pale wolf]

i shoulda got it for steam

[ancient gyro]

im going blind as a mage class idk what they've changed it's been 3 years since I last played

[wintry ice]

dog is cool

[ancient gyro]

is it still a worm

[quaint stag]

blood "parlay loser" stone

[wintry ice]

i don't think they'll change the most iconic aspect of the boss

[ancient gyro]

ugh

ok

[wicked rover]

what joker is that

[gleaming urchin]

blood stone

[wicked rover]

dunno what that is

[gleaming urchin]

every heart card gets a 1/2 chance of 1.5x mult when scored

i think

[wicked rover]

seems op

[serene forge]

1 in 9.5 chance of 0.44x mult per heart scored

[gleaming urchin]

close enough

[wicked rover]

so why do people joke abt it

[serene forge]

its bad

[wintry ice]

it's too random

[royal shale]

because its bad

[signal brook]

Olive

[wicked rover]

k

[cloud sinew]

TRENCH

[gleaming urchin]

its 1/2 is like the wheels 1/4

[royal shale]

haiii

[cloud sinew]

long time no see

[wintry ice]

relying on pure chance for scoring in a game of consistency is

not good

[ancient gyro]

how's the cursed profile progress

[cloud sinew]

its like relying on misprint for your base mult

[cloud sinew]

sure the average is 11.5, but you only need to lose once for the run to be over lol

its good when you have no reasonable alternatives

[wintry ice]

trib suffers from similar downsides but it has an upside

[signal brook]

Thought that was tenna

[wintry ice]

potential character

[gleaming urchin]

lucky cards:

[cloud sinew]

people dont really rely on lucky cards for the +mult

luckies are primarily econ

[signal brook]

But... but gambling in poker gam 😥🥺

[ancient gyro]

they rely on mult specifically not hitting

[gleaming urchin]

my most used tarot is the wheel i like gambling

[cloud sinew]

from the +mult and +$. the +mult means you'll win with less hands, so it's +$ when that happens

and then the +$ is direct econ

[royal shale]

me too I like wheel :3

[ancient gyro]

did you ever complete that profile

[gleaming urchin]

atleast they dont waste a whole joker spot though

[royal shale]

no im working on it, its the 40/120 rn

im using it to stall for blue stake rework before returning to flushmaxxing

[lunar zealot]

Ello ello

[ancient gyro]

oh I thought you'd be closer or something

[royal shale]

I took a few breaks

[ancient gyro]

figures

I wouldn't force this upon anybody

[lunar zealot]

you're getting a lot of mileage out of my misfortune

[ancient gyro]

she has other screenshots

[royal shale]

I mean, gamblemaxxing isn't that bad ngl

[lunar zealot]

How the fuck does double bloodstone double retrigger only score 100k in the first place

[gentle basalt]

how much is considered good gold stake win %?

[lunar zealot]

god this joker makes my head hurt

[ancient gyro]

depends

[long hazel]

aren't gold stake wins highly coveted in general?

[gentle basalt]

not really...

[latent egret]

if you are over 25% id say its elite

[long hazel]

the fuck?

[terse vale]

we need to stop saying this in replies to actual points and discussion not trying to be rude

[fair sapphire]

uh

[mystic bear]

query: with red card and pairs, when is the right time to switch from taking mercury in celestial packs to skipping to bump red card?

[cloud sinew]

oh my god

[ancient gyro]

i thought this was funnier given the stake and what not #🕹・game-discussion message

[cloud sinew]

i worked backwards from the score to calculate how many times bloodstone hit

[ancient gyro]

lol

[cloud sinew]

IT HIT 3 TIMES

[signal brook]

But gamba
..

[royal shale]

depends

[signal brook]

Mmmm

[ancient gyro]

rule 10

[gentle basalt]

if you have a chip joker, always skip

[ancient gyro]

huh

[gentle basalt]

if you do not, you might need the mercury to survive in the short term, take it only then

[ancient gyro]

skip celestials if you're in the small early game window or if mercury isn't there

[wintry ice]

you can also skip mercuries if you have consistent blue seals

[cloud sinew]

bloodstone hit 3 times in 15 chances which is ~1.8% chance of happening

[random ice]

Gg ez

[gentle basalt]

wait, early game is the time when you are supposed to take them

[molten thicket]

do i sell rebate here

[ancient gyro]

key word small window

[gentle basalt]

because the +15 is more % of your score than +2 mult

[wintry ice]

more towards midgame

[signal brook]

Gambling is fun especially when its gonna lead to me winning or losing

[royal shale]

depends on the chip joker, if it scales you can probably survive without mercury but if it wont scale (and isnt high enough to begin with) you should build mercury and hope to replace it eventually

[ancient gyro]

chips is more valued mid game

[serene forge]

show deck

probably not

[gentle island]

Guys I think this is the time

[molten thicket]

main point is to get the cola

[serene forge]

oh

yeah get the cola

[ancient gyro]

sure earlier decisions can make that happen to where you take planets instead, I'm just speaking for early game survival specifically.

red card into a1/2 manacle on black deck specifically

[gentle island]

should I take madness and skip to the end

[ancient gyro]

similar applications may apply

[rancid gull]

You wouldn’t gain any xmult

[signal brook]

I should make a build where its just jokers that rely on chance

[serene forge]

sticker

[gentle basalt]

the guy did say playing pairs...so its not that early game

[gentle island]

my deck for reference:

[molten thicket]

well rebate came back instantly

[gentle basalt]

so this is pretty good?

[ancient gyro]

it's decent

[rancid gull]

If you can hit 200,000 in a blind

The hen yes

Skip to the end

Hope for not violet vessel

[latent egret]

its great compared to general playerbase

[gentle island]

Now I just need bean

[latent egret]

like a 1800 elo chess player

[ancient gyro]

im probably in the 20% for black deck specifically

too lazy to check

[rancid gull]

I kinda wanna try doing black stake++

[robust lance]

i dont like comparing stat sizes so i just never bothered with that site

[rancid gull]

Black deck++

My bad

[cloud sinew]

regular arcanas contain 3 tarots, you'll get at least one enhancement tarot 76.4% of the time, and it's 1.375 tarots on average across all enhancement tarots, so you're going to get +0.105x equivalent vampire scaling per regular arcana pack on average.

jumbo arcanas get at least one enhancement tarot 92.4%% of the time, you get +0.127x equivalent vampire scaling per jumbo arcana pack on average.

mega arcanas have an average of 1.82 enhancement tarots, so on average per mega arcana you get ~0.25x equivalent vampire scaling.

TLDR: factoring this into the pack appearance rates you get (0.105x0.1784)+(0.127x0.0892)+(0.25x0.0223) = +0.036x equivalent vampire scaling from arcanas per shop, which is not much at all

[signal brook]

I have played 0 gold stake games, therefore I have won nan% of my gold stake games and am better than all of you combined

[ancient gyro]

it's pretty fun for what it's worth

well if youre not struggling beforehand

[rancid gull]

Well, I want to challenge myself tbh

Cause I grinded out the rest of c++ on ghost

20% win rate on gold stake lmao

[ancient gyro]

oh

uh

I wouldn't strongly recommend it but that's up to you

[gentle basalt]

whats yours?

[cloud sinew]

i have a 24.71% winrate at gold stake on mobile

[wintry ice]

i think my current winrate on yellow/blue is close to 50%

[signal brook]

Actually ive won 100% of the gold stake games ive played

[spice lance]

Finally, unseeded naneinf. Took me like a year

[signal brook]

🔥

[cloud sinew]

do you hold R much?

[wintry ice]

if i only count runs from 1 or 2 months ago

[serene forge]

I have no clue what my winrate is

[gentle island]

uhoh

[cloud sinew]

like, restart without seeing the loss screen

[gentle island]

oh well who even needs brainstorm right

[rancid gull]

Wait does holding r count as a loss?

[gentle basalt]

i am on phone, so i cant do that

[cloud sinew]

yes you can

[cloud sinew]

no

[gentle basalt]

well i dont know how to

[serene forge]

new run button

[cloud sinew]

if you go to a new run before seeing the loss screen

[serene forge]

I thought it did because it breaks winstreaks iirc

[rancid gull]

Yeah I thought so too

[cloud sinew]

it only counts for winstreaks

everything else it doesnt

[serene forge]

I see

[rancid gull]

Because I restart a lot

[cloud sinew]

not for stats, not for bones unlock

[wet jackal]

Question

Currently on my way to competionist+, and I'm wondering how big of a pain it'll be to get completionist++

Does it require I have a joker on my final hand to get that sticker, or can it be at any point in the game

[rancid gull]

I was wondering if that was bogging down my wind rate

[cloud sinew]

final hand

[ancient gyro]

game doesn't count towards the amount of losses

[cloud sinew]

it's actually inflating your winrate

[gentle basalt]

i mean i might have a few times, but not intentionally (also many more times i just gave up on runs i wasnt super interested in in ante 1-2 itself, when i was on 0-1 streak)

[exotic mica]

hows my build

[signal brook]

🙏

[cloud sinew]

6/7

[gentle island]

GG +2 gold

[patent sail]

why is it just stuff

[rancid gull]

Tbf there’s probably some goated seeds I’ve missed out on

[gentle basalt]

also my win rate currently is more, maybe 75% (i am trying to get streaks, highest is 10 till now)

[exotic mica]

turtle bean just died

[signal brook]

I guess its negative so its fine

[rancid gull]

I just like to one shot small blind if I can

[exotic mica]

cause why not

[tranquil cedar]

why so negative

[wet jackal]

So basically I did the correct thing taking a riff raff and popcorn for the final blind while letting photochad carry the final hand

[gentle basalt]

c++ is easy after c+ but its just a grind, because winning on your preferred deck is easy, but you need to do it ~50-60 times

[trail pier]

supernova + square joker my beloved

[patent sail]

popcorn is such pain in the ass to sticker

[signal brook]

Would you rather negative loyalty or negative throwback (looks factored in)

[patent sail]

that was a great decision

[exotic mica]

nat negatives too