🕹・game-discussion

[strange compass]

Ngl the orange and gold stake sticker confuse me so much

[still pike]

Or this?

[strange compass]

I wish that it looked more visually different

[tough fern]

any high card truthers in chat

[still pike]

Win?

[strange compass]

How do you play a normal high card build meant to defeat ante 8

[tough fern]

ante 5 with $7 😭

[tough fern]

tbh i normally use ghost deck

you have to really slowly move into high card

and do it really early as well

[strange compass]

I have not played a high card run yet

[heady narwhal]

like pairs but worse, presumably

[still pike]

Same

[tough fern]

actually it's kinda better

[still pike]

Its mostly 2 pair or pair for me

[tough fern]

(in some scenarios)

[strange compass]

Ye that's what I think too

[heady narwhal]

i like x1.5 chips

[tough fern]

this was my last high card set up lmao

[tough fern]

photophotophotochad

[heady narwhal]

if i'm using stuntman or stm or parking or something i might want to play highcard

[shell dagger]

or midas

[tough fern]

4 eternals hurts

bad

[shell dagger]

nah it’s fine

especially in this build

[still pike]

What do I play here?

[heady narwhal]

4 eternal very good jokers

[tough fern]

they're good but it still hurts to look at lmfao

[heady narwhal]

better than 4 regular very good jokers imo

[tough fern]

all you can really do is a two pair

[still pike]

Get negative so u can get more jokers

[tough fern]

yeah except negatives tend to come with downsides

[tough fern]

unless it's natural

i'm enjoying this liveposting gameplay

[potent mirage]

I love it

[tough fern]

by golly bro

[still pike]

I won this blind

[potent mirage]

$55 start

[tough fern]

ok but what's everybody's favourite joker from each rarity

[heady narwhal]

copying pants is probably better

[still pike]

I found that out

[heady narwhal]

unless your hand level is like 70

[still pike]

Its at 28 mult rn

[nocturne veldt]

that might be lit too, but bootstraps has the multiplier which im interested in more

whatever i get first ig

[still pike]

Do I get eternal mime?

[cosmic sun]

Just gotta pick those eternals wisely, or pick one to survive

[rancid gull]

What does your deck look like

I’d get it if you have blue seals/gold cards

[still pike]

Trash

[rancid gull]

Okay then no

Not rn

Unless if you wanna speculate

[white coral]

I DID IT TTTTTT TTT T T

[nocturne veldt]

@white coral HELLO

HAIIIIIIII

[white coral]

@nocturne veldt I BEAT BALATRO

[nocturne veldt]

YOU WERE JUST SAYING IT IN V+P EARLIER

UR CRACKED

[covert steeple]

LFG

GGs

Im aiming for this myself

[white coral]

Winner winner

[nocturne veldt]

dude we need to link up more about balatro ive been addicted

congrats on the dubs tho

[white coral]

sure im so down

[still pike]

Nooooo I wish I could kill the boss blind

[white coral]

I love ts game

[nocturne veldt]

I've been playing a lot with rafters and cobalium helping me

[covert steeple]

Im just looking for friends to help me with understanding this

[nocturne veldt]

have plans to run multi with rafters and a couple others later

[white coral]

Woah gl !!

i would watch

[nocturne veldt]

if the party is down for me streaming i would !!

Rn it

it'll probably be some non-gd community friends in a niche private server before i link up with them

[native cape]

uh oh.

[nocturne veldt]

i'm also doing risk of rain modded too

so

[still pike]

Turn one to stone

[terse vale]

should have gotten glass but lowkey

idk if it would have saved you

[strange compass]

What would that do here

[native cape]

lets hope this stone card can pull 14m out its ass

lmao

[strange compass]

Saving glass is kinda cope

[still pike]

Chips

[tough fern]

probably not 14 million chips tho

[still pike]

Win?

[native cape]

it did 8k lol

[potent mirage]

Uncommon jokers

[terse vale]

wdym

[strange compass]

In my experience it doesn't really matter

[strange compass]

No Soul 😞

[still pike]

5k under fuck

[tough fern]

ugh that's painful

what is everyone's best hand

[white coral]

tag me if u do i dont wanna miss it

[tough fern]

hell yes

i am in so much pain rn omfg

[still pike]

I need to work more

[nocturne veldt]

for sure and likewise u can tag me here, in v+p or in dms if u wanna discuss balatro, or art too (i'm learning to draw recently)

[white coral]

Ur so goated wtf

[tough fern]

https://youtu.be/wfBecdrsNLw

[nocturne veldt]

??? what the fuck?

[tough fern]

??!?!!

[nocturne veldt]

MOST USELESS NEGATIVE TAG LMFAO??

[tough fern]

they're calling it the worst negative tag

actually no one time i got a negative tag and 8 ball showed up

#thanks.

[nocturne veldt]

I MEAN

ITS A FREE DOUBLE TAG LOL

"free"

[willow frost]

it wasnt from a tag

[spark kernel]

Sugary pepsi ahh diet cola 😭 🙏

[desert pebble]

scuffed ass run

[nocturne veldt]

using diet cola for a double celestial pakc

dont think its worth

[still pike]

First shop and game hates me fuck

[tough fern]

owwwww

that hurtsss

[desert pebble]

i picked up wrathful joker early and its been biting me in the ass

[still pike]

Discard 3oak because of half joker

[desert pebble]

im doing pairs

no

[still pike]

Or that

[tough fern]

dude.

absolute menace

[woven spire]

lmao

[glad smelt]

Guys, anyone tried

[willow frost]

no

[glad smelt]

Weeeeeee scaling build

[wintry ice]

i assume i just don't take it

[glad smelt]

How far did you get it?

[tough fern]

yes

[still pike]

How is it 15 but u got alot of completed stuff?

[tough fern]

i had 2 wees at some point both with 200 chipsthat kept scaling

[wintry ice]

yeah wee is very strong

[tough fern]

it was fun

[woven spire]

Naneinf resets it

[glad smelt]

How far?

[tough fern]

i've also done stone decks and they're actually very fun

[glad smelt]

I got like 2k on wee rn

[still pike]

Oh

[quick umbra]

Having the most insane run of my life rn bro

I got the perkeo in ante 2

[woven spire]

basically if you do naneinf your best hand will be back to 0

[tough fern]

YO

[quick umbra]

And got two invisible on them

[glad smelt]

(Photo Chad blueprint/brainstorm, so idc about blinds and scale him for fun)

[tough fern]

that's insane good for u

good luck if you've not seen the plant yet

[quick umbra]

Idk if i had lol

[glad smelt]

How much you got on wee max?

[quick umbra]

BRO I GOT A 4TH INVIS IN THE RUNNNNN

[glad smelt]

Weeeeeeeeee

[quick umbra]

WTF IS THIS SEEEED

[glad smelt]

Well, now find 12 soul cards, and get all negative from them

[wintry ice]

i got it to 1k multiple times on gold stake

[tough fern]

unbelievable

what's ur score rn?

[quick umbra]

wym ?

[nocturne veldt]

god dan, wouldve been really nice to use supernova, had Banner NOT been the Negative 🥲

[tough fern]

like what are u scoring rn per hand

i gues that also depends on what ur deck is like

[quick umbra]

around 200k if im lucky enough with kings

[tough fern]

good luck ante 11

perkeo is great but easy to die with tbh

every time i get perkeo i die almost immediately

[quick umbra]

i just can't find a pluto at all

[glad smelt]

How much extra xMult is req for red card + wee/square build? To keep up with high stackes?

[quick umbra]

yeah im dying rip

[glad smelt]

Now… naneinf?

[glad smelt]

Damn

[quick umbra]

seed was 3VXN2TQ9

[quick umbra]

couldn't find a pluto so no

like

genuinely not 1

[nocturne veldt]

bruh

jokers that i love using for runs but they might not be helpful here

[quick umbra]

im trying that run again seeded

[wintry ice]

hm

oh this is cool

i guess i'll keep bus if it gives me a gold seal

[glad smelt]

I’ll save that screen for like 6 years I guess

[wintry ice]

well purple works too

and banana is gone

well this is better

[glad smelt]

(To celeb 2032)

[wintry ice]

actually i do like my purple seals

[glad smelt]

Is green joker usable

Overall

[zenith raven]

Yes if you get it early enough

[wintry ice]

yeah

[hollow merlin]

am i supposed to buy the dna?

[wintry ice]

discards aren't too important if you play easy to draw hands

[wintry ice]

you can replace mime for it

you need a bunch of steel later on so

[lethal hedge]

omg i finaly ulocked the plasma deck 🤯

[brave goblet]

Man reserved parking loves showing up as a natural negative

[wintry ice]

the

[hollow merlin]

wouldnt 1 brainstorm be better?

[wintry ice]

well you'd need to get showman and then get the money to replace it again

i'd say selling blueprint for it would be better

if you don't want to sell mime

[hollow merlin]

blueprint is just better brainstorm

[wintry ice]

well

[lethal hedge]

so now with plasma unlocked waht do i need to know about it 🤔

[wintry ice]

it seems like ditching constellation was the idea

[vocal rose]

we sac trio

[wintry ice]

chips work really well for the lower stakes on it

[wintry ice]

i sold delgrats

[still pike]

How many 2's do u have to do this?

[wintry ice]

i have a bunch of purple seals

[vocal rose]

how are you gonna manage the econ

[wintry ice]

gold seals

[hollow merlin]

also am i still supposed to make more gold cards

[vocal rose]

maybe chad is a good idea too

replacing trio

[wintry ice]

would have been

but idk i think i overrate trio a bit

i guess i can sell it now

lol

could sell cert instead

[desert pebble]

what flavour of 9 would you like

[still pike]

Yes

[hollow merlin]

my hologram boutta go crazy

[nocturne veldt]

hi what is this

[still pike]

Hologram what?

[trail hemlock]

Oh boy...

[hollow merlin]

hologram deez nuts

[trail hemlock]

Make sure you have a tarot card with you when you go to the next blind

[wintry ice]

i used temperance

[hollow merlin]

1st spectral pack this seed and no ecto :((

[covert steeple]

What's the easiest deck and stake to get to Ante 12 on for that achievement? I'd assume it's either Red or Blue Deck on White Stake, but Im probably wrong

[hollow merlin]

oomagaaaaaadddddddddddd

[lethal hedge]

so waht do the plasma deck i mean i see the chip thing but i dont get it ?

[weary whale]

What’s the most reliable way to shrink your hand size? Trying to unlock a voucher

[wintry ice]

uh

idt i can affoard this

[hollow merlin]

(chips + mult)/2 i think

[weary whale]

It adds the mult & chips together and splits it evenly

For example, instead of 100 x 2 it becomes 51 x 51

[white coral]

There it is : 3

first ever c++ before regular completionist

Lowkey not even a bad item

[lethal hedge]

ahh ok so that way it can get easyer to play depending the strat

[undone sierra]

Looks inside

[gentle basalt]

Ghost deck ectoplasm

[hollow merlin]

Whoever made this seed is evil, cuz wtf are these vouchers

[willow frost]

rip lmao

[hollow merlin]

no blank, no crystal ball 🙁

[wintry ice]

would chad work as a showdown blind deterrent

[hollow merlin]

how many steel cards do i need to naneinf?

with like 3 copy jokers

[spark kernel]

2 polychromes W

[wintry ice]

like 73 or so

it's an unfeasable amount without perkeo there

[bold berry]

help please

[wintry ice]

press ctrl+c and send the report in #⚙・modding-support

[glad smelt]

High card-ing 2 with hanging chad+blueprint+ brainstorm so it trigger 7 times(had like 6 in deck)

[hollow merlin]

73?!

[glad smelt]

It was total of 253 procs

[wintry ice]

well uh

i can turn my 50 10s into jacks

[hollow merlin]

talisman + cryptid doesnt work together i think

[wintry ice]

this would be funny if i had more than 3 kings

[bold berry]

When I deactivate the talisman, the cryptid doesn't work for me.

[wintry ice]

ight this should be easy

[south palm]

Does that work?

I mean, the dice

[rancid gull]

if you have lucky cards

otherwise it's not really doing anything

oh wait

no

brainstorms don't work on the dice

[hollow merlin]

WHAT IS THIS SEEEDDDDDDDDDD

[distant thunder]

Check the brainstorm and it will say If its "compatible" or "incompatible"

in this case its incompatible

[alpine nest]

I GOT SO CLOSE TO BEAN GLITCH BUT I DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH CARDS

[nocturne veldt]

Very tempted to be risky and replace hallucination with gros michel and supernova with greedy (i have majority diamonds)

[rancid gull]

you should gamble

[nocturne veldt]

sure?

[rancid gull]

roll the dice my friend

[nocturne veldt]

fuck im stupid this is choose 1

i replaced hallucination with greedy

[wintry ice]

did discord die for anyone else

[rancid gull]

no

i don't think so

[spark kernel]

Thats another gold stake down

[rancid gull]

I led you astray

I'm so sorry

[wicked rover]

i like money

[stark charm]

Greed have no limit

[plain nimbus]

3 ante in 3 round is crazy

[wicked rover]

im trying to get the beat it in 8 rounds

[quick umbra]

bro...

[plain nimbus]

Ah nvm

[lyric basalt]

fuck

[wicked rover]

rip

you will be missed

[rich mauve]

⁶⁷

like wee joker

[hollow merlin]

am i supposed to skip here? there has been 1 spectral pack this game that didnt have ecto, and i dont have omen globe?

[nocturne veldt]

its ok we won anyway

🔥

[harsh flame]

who goes for brainstorm

been playing club flushes with face cards

[rancid gull]

my goat

[hollow merlin]

onyx

[nocturne veldt]

is brainstorm just blueprint bout other direction?

[wintry ice]

go ahead

[harsh flame]

blueprint copies the joker next to them, brainstorm copies the leftmost joker

[wintry ice]

cavendish or agate

[harsh flame]

so whatever is all the way on the left

[hollow hinge]

It's best to focus on crap tons of easy chips with plasma deck, right?

[nocturne veldt]

ah

blueprint slightly better in that regard

[harsh flame]

depends

[rancid gull]

brainstorm is nice on amber acorn

[harsh flame]

2 for agate goes 1 for cav goes

[plain nimbus]

In the early game yep sometimes u can pass ante 8 with the best chip jokers but u could try to switch to mult lategame

[hollow merlin]

i obviously sell dna here right? and if i find showman i just swap to that, correct?

[rugged bloom]

that's another nat negative reserved parking someone will use to naneinf but i can't :<

but yes I'd say sell the DNA

[spark kernel]

How hard is gold stake yellow deck

[serene forge]

I would consider it

[hollow merlin]

can i score e37 without dna tho?

[serene forge]

what do your vouchers look like

[desert pebble]

MY LUCKY HIT BOTH THE MULT AND MONEY

[hollow merlin]

my vouchers suck

[desert pebble]

(GOLD STAKE BTW)

[hollow merlin]

no omen globe no retcon am just cooked

[stone hornet]

What’s the move here? Never had perkeo on a plasma run. I think I wanna try and get a cryptid and go down that route but I’m so used to not having him. Should I trade a copy joker for a sixth sense? I’m scoring super high right now as is, not sure if two copies are necessary but they’re really nice.

[rancid gull]

i would consider how much i love bloodstone

[serene forge]

ouch

not even dcut is sad

yeah run looks like it's basically dead at this point

[wintry ice]

hey fork

[spark kernel]

How hard is gold stake yellow deck

[serene forge]

oh there is dcut

[serene forge]

im blind

[serene forge]

hi

[abstract oyster]

I hate bloodstone

[rancid gull]

I love bloodstone

[serene forge]

sorry for your loss

[wintry ice]

what loss this is my first 3 streak in a while

[rancid gull]

Please

no more white stake

[serene forge]

o nice

[vestal copper]

this was my first gstake

[vestal copper]

red stake

[serene forge]

you can figure out how hard gold stake yellow deck is by playing gold stake yellow deck, hope this helps 😊

[rancid gull]

gold stake yellow deck is fun because you already get 2 bucks of interest

and your econ is online already

p much

[spark kernel]

Aint yellow deck a powerful deck since it gives you great amount of momey at the start

[vestal copper]

yeah

[rancid gull]

yes

14 gives you two bucks interest

and one shotting the blind

[vestal copper]

jumpstarts econ

[rancid gull]

3 extra dollars

[white flint]

can i see palette ahhh'

[rancid gull]

you can figure out how awesome bloodstone is

[exotic mica]

4x cavendish for x12 mult

[rancid gull]

4^4

[white flint]

proceeds to not trigger on all 5 flush triggers

[wintry ice]

yellow deck is actually +12$ because of interest

[vestal copper]

solid

[grave sky]

i hate my life

[rancid gull]

Basically x256 mult

[white flint]

its more like 3^4

[rancid gull]

Having 4 cavs

[white flint]

cuz 1 cavendish gives 3x mult

[cosmic sun]

judgement pull

[rancid gull]

Wait

It is 3*4

Whoops

[white flint]

it is 3^4

[rancid gull]

X81 mult

[vestal copper]

how rare is nat neg bp from a judgement

[rancid gull]

Assuming you have 4 jokers

[white flint]

something you get once per lifetime

[rancid gull]

It’s a 1/146 * nat neg chance

Well also the rarity too

[white flint]

balala gods blessed you and took ur luck

[rancid gull]

I didn’t factor that in

[hollow merlin]

when do i sell invis?

[white flint]

probably when you dont need reserved parking for money

and you have enough gold kings they are ur econ ig

but idk

i dont like far into the ante runs

[serene forge]

the square root of 6 is 3

[hollow merlin]

i cant win with gold kings

[serene forge]

I just realized you don't have blank either

you're completely dead at this point I think

unfortunately

[hollow merlin]

ye forgot that

[rancid gull]

yeah if my math is correct

the odds of pulling a nat neg blueprint from a judgement

is less than .0001

percent chance

factoring in it's rare

it's negative

and all the jokers to choose from

[vestal copper]

i remembering hitting a bp from it in an endless run

[exotic mica]

vamp midas combo from the same pack is rough

[rancid gull]

midas mask all the way

their build is centered around on trigger mults

so vampire wouldn't be the most optimal

it'd do something

[exotic mica]

true true

sell sixth sense?

no tribal

[rancid gull]

sixth sense for the ecto to then grab midas

[exotic mica]

mmm true

but if theyre going for trigger mults why get a econ joker?

[rancid gull]

so a reroll for deckfixing and eventually a brainstorm

[exotic mica]

ah i see

[weary whale]

GOT IT! Surprisingly only used ectoplasm once. The other hand shrinking spectrals came in handy too

[ebon condor]

yall they didn't even ask for advice i think they're fine

[gentle basalt]

Oh i forgot about ouija completely

[hollow merlin]

🙁 No naneinf that run i guess

[cosmic sun]

lil 6.2x obelisk

[weary whale]

Now all I gotta do is reach Ante 12, earn 100,000,000 in a single hand, and buy 6 more things from the shop and then I’ve completed the collection

[exotic mica]

whats the green deck strat

+chips for econ or xmult?

[ebon condor]

why does that matter for green?

[exotic mica]

cause hella money

[ebon condor]

i mean yeah but how does +chips vs xmult make a difference

[exotic mica]

cause +chips based on money

wait why not both

nvm im stupid

[ebon condor]

???

[valid flare]

Should I get rid of lucky cat for blood stone?

[ebon condor]

are you playing hearts?

[valid flare]

Yes

Heart red seal lucky kings

[heady narwhal]

sell stone joker for neptune

[ebon condor]

how much is cat at?

[valid flare]

34.75x

[exotic mica]

wow

[ebon condor]

yeah def then

[valid flare]

Okay thanks

[weary whale]

CHONKER

[spring granite]

not my cat 🥲

[feral basalt]

Is this the right order for the jokers

[exotic mica]

red seal kings?

[feral basalt]

no js steel

Not even 1 red seal

💔

[exotic mica]

huh

[feral basalt]

only steel kings

[sleek valley]

Got orange done on painted. It was a photochad with Yoric and trib, so basically easy mdoe, but still.

[stark charm]

i would go more mime for slightly extra chip

[exotic mica]

blueprint triggers mime

[sleek valley]

Now to get it done on gold and never touch this deck again

[stark charm]

asumming you have red seal steel king

[feral basalt]

it’s plasma deck

[stark charm]

slightly extra score

[feral basalt]

it’s plasma 😭

[exotic mica]

no red seals tho

[narrow finch]

It is surprisingly close. Log base 1.5 of 34.75 is 8.75 so you need 9 bloodstone hits for it to be better than cat. You have 17 triggers so on average bloodstone is better but if you get unlucky cat is better. Bloodstone also has more potential if you find dusk

[exotic mica]

whats your current handsize?

[feral basalt]

10

[exotic mica]

keep it on mime

[feral basalt]

u mean keep this build

?

[exotic mica]

yeah

[desert pebble]

quite a cheeky start id say

[exotic mica]

unless you can hit a third king

but try to build red seals with blueprint on mime

[stark charm]

how flushy

[spring granite]

I think 3 mimes and 2 barons or 3 barons and 2 mimes are the same outcome on steel kings without red seal. ×1.5¹²

but I could be counting wrong

[exotic mica]

2 barons 3 mimes

plus blueprint on mime

but needs a negative

[stark charm]

red seal is like extra mime and steel is like extra baron you want it to balance so it scale most parabolically

[exotic mica]

how are you coring 3.2k on round 2

[vernal palm]

guys is there a way to restore a save file in balatro?

[exotic mica]

oof

[stark charm]

i think it is in roaming

[spring granite]

probably got a straight flush given the 4 fingers

[vernal palm]

i woke up today and when i opened the game all my golden stickers were lost, and i cant find online a way to help me

[desert pebble]

the way i did it is actually the most stupid thing ever

[exotic mica]

royal flush x3?

[vernal palm]

whats that

[desert pebble]

tarots

[stark charm]

i thought you meant run save files

about that idk

[sullen aspen]

mult hit

from lucky?

[robust lance]

2 glass cards

[desert pebble]

lucky was a part of it

[spring granite]

😍

[sullen aspen]

yeah no im lost

[exotic mica]

lucky and glass?

lucky and glass straight/royal flush

[desert pebble]

steel

ALSO

it was done with 8 dollaronies

[sullen aspen]

what

[desert pebble]

noyhing else

[sullen aspen]

🤔

[desert pebble]

steel and lucky

[exotic mica]

ooooh

[desert pebble]

wanna know how i got all of those without a tarot pack

[robust lance]

No

[desert pebble]

ok

[rugged bloom]

Hmmmm

[jade spoke]

Chat I am praying for Hanging Chad downfall in 1.1 (revert it back to 1 retrigger).

(Posted after winning too many runs because of Photochad and getting annoyed about balance again).

[rugged bloom]

Why

Let it be

[exotic mica]

COMPLAINING about winning

[jade spoke]

It's too good and creates too many broken strategies for being a common Joker.

[jade spoke]

Yea bc winning the exact same way so consistently is boring.

[exotic mica]

switch it up

[jade spoke]

Why.

[exotic mica]

dont take photochad every time

[jade spoke]

If the game gives you the button that wins you the game you take it. Glass card for plant and that's Ante 8 done.

[rugged bloom]

Why is everyone hellbent on nerfing not broken jokers in a PVE game?

[exotic mica]

its a rng poker rougelite

let it be a little unbalanced

[robust lance]

Or you can be funny and pick seance and then die

[jade spoke]

But Chad was fine when it was 1 retrigger and didn't instantly win you the game lol. It's just boring isn't it.

[rugged bloom]

It's not excessive

[jade spoke]

Same reason as why Pair Spam is so dreadful and higher card hands need to be better.

[exotic mica]

no one forces you to take chad

[rugged bloom]

2 triggers is okay

[exotic mica]

take blueprint and photo

[robust lance]

No the issue is blue stake

[desert pebble]

though, the game still gotta GIVE it to you, no?

[jade spoke]

Yea but it's the most optimal choice 90% of the time and they're two common Jokers.

[desert pebble]

what was the thunk smoking when making blue stake remove 1 discard

[serene forge]

no

old chad was beyond garbage

[terse dock]

Chad's getting moved to unc

[serene forge]

it'll get nerfed for sure but not like that

[grave sky]

omfg. do i get brainstorm? playing only face cards on anaglyph

[serene forge]

bye smiley

[jade spoke]

The only other Chad nerf that could work is maybe making it trigger once on the first two played cards ig.

But any nerf that kills photochad is good to me so w/e.

[terse dock]

Its getting unc status

[wintry ice]

bruh

[serene forge]

they should make chad give 1 retrigger for every card played but have it die after 10 uses

[serene forge]

here win

[wintry ice]

i guess i'm having an easy 4 streak

[serene forge]

and make it an uncommon joker too

[robust lance]

Not if I do anything about it

[jade spoke]

IDK I just think it's silly to have a joker combo that works with every hand and wins you the game on the spot lol.

[serene forge]

i mean like

[exotic mica]

but it doesnt

[rugged bloom]

It definitely does NOT immediately win you the game on the spot

[serene forge]

photochad is good for sure but far from a free win

[exotic mica]

photochad needs specific card and hand combos

[serene forge]

it's not like finding a round 1 yorick

[exotic mica]

photochad as your only two joker will NEVER win you the game

[wintry ice]

do i even need red card after 2 strengths

[serene forge]

photochad is also quite poor with pair/high card although still usable

[wintry ice]

photochad kinda needs blue seals to be fully consistent

[jade spoke]

You buy planets and then maybe slap any chip Joker if it's getting a little sketch and basically roll through the game.

[bronze rune]

do i take idol?

[terse dock]

You know what a more consistent way to get x8 mult is

[heady narwhal]

if you can get a little over half a level per round it's essentially +4 mult per round. but that's not Great for 2 joker slots

[wintry ice]

and you have a chance to get stuffed by bad draws and boss blinds

which pairs don't have to deal with

[terse dock]

A cavendish and a trio

[ebon condor]

for the record, it was buffed bc it used to be genuinely one of the worst cards in the game

[terse dock]

and its more fun

[wintry ice]

photochad is as much of an instant win as red card runner

[rich mauve]

because you run out of, what they call, chads?

[terse dock]

It was bad but it wasn't down there imo

[ebon condor]

obv there were other factors but im just sayin

[wintry ice]

it's not an instant win but it's a head start

[terse dock]

Same world as rare seance and showman btw

[jade spoke]

Red Card + Runner has the sauce tho.

[ebon condor]

fair enough

it was really bad tho

[rugged bloom]

ADHD brained

[wintry ice]

the sauce of pair spam into winning

[terse dock]

Yeah I cant deny that

[wintry ice]

aka every gold stake run

[jade spoke]

Runner has the sauce because I want any excuse to play Straights.

[rich mauve]

will we ever get shield banging skeleton as a joker? 🫠

[grave sky]

beautiful

[jade spoke]

Straights are so fucking fun to play.

[wintry ice]

well shortcut works better if you want to actually use them to score

[ember turtle]

shoutout to straights

[terse dock]

Runner is a pivot joker

[jade spoke]

The fundamental issue with straights is that they're not pairs so why bother.

[rugged bloom]

what the fuck even? Naneinf push btw

[ebon condor]

now try flowerpot straights. complete dopamine simulator

[terse dock]

Its best synergy is unironically obelisk

[ember turtle]

oh lmao

[rancid gull]

Runner

[jade spoke]

You couldn't force me to play FP if my life depended on it.

[rugged bloom]

I skip the Soul?

[terse dock]

But

Splash

[ember turtle]

that's weird coming from a straight player

[terse dock]

2/5

[desert pebble]

and then its yorick 🤑

[ebon condor]

and you call straights fun. fake ass fan

[rugged bloom]

I can save scum

[jade spoke]

2 mediocre Jokers combine to make an X3 with more conditions than it's worth.

[rugged bloom]

actually

i won't

[terse dock]

You know a fun hand

[rancid gull]

Because there’s like a million other ways to make straights awesome

[terse dock]

4oak

[rancid gull]

lol

[terse dock]

I love 4oak

[jade spoke]

I mean I'm not a "straight player", I'm a "please God make this run let me do anything but pair slop" player.

[ember turtle]

lmao

[wintry ice]

i fumbled my winstreak but

[desert pebble]

i like fh

[rugged bloom]

As a gay, no straights allowed 🙅‍♂️

[terse dock]

I'm a trysexual, because I'll try anything.

1. Missionary

[rancid gull]

You guys will eat your pairs and you will like it

[ebon condor]

also fp + splash isnt a good combo because youre never going to have both at the same time

[ember turtle]

i'm still figuring out my dating preference. i mean my favourite poker hand

[jade spoke]

I would unironically enjoy a Flush-dominated world like all the newbies play than a pair dominated world.

[rancid gull]

Gays don’t need anything to be awesome, straights need buffs

[ebon condor]

fp is good for 4 and 5 card hands and splash is bad

[rugged bloom]

Agreed

[ebon condor]

so youre never gonna have one and want the other

[terse dock]

Splash can be a good joker the problem is it wouldn't be a joker anymore

[rugged bloom]

ANOTHER????

[jade spoke]

They also need to revert the Blue Seal buff.

...Maybe I'm a boomer though.

[rugged bloom]

once I give the seed can anyone check with one it is?

[ebon condor]

absolutely not

[rancid gull]

Blue seal hater

[jade spoke]

I still instinctually move Swash to the right.

[rancid gull]

I got u

Ur like the chilliest mf

[jade spoke]

Blue Seals basically win you the game once you have one because it's easy to snowball them into more and oops there's 50 free levels.

[ebon condor]

theres a reason blue seals and 8ball were buffed

[ebon condor]

random planets is fuckin useless

[grave sky]

FINALLY

[wintry ice]

having a card be stupid powerful is better than having it be useless

[terse dock]

x0.1 on const trust

[rancid gull]

Enjoy your satellite

[ember turtle]

random planets synergises with one joker (satellite) and nothing else

[ebon condor]

high priestess is only useable bc its cheap and lets you planet hold on quick demand

[frank notch]

bunny what about constellation

[jade spoke]

It also synergizes with Constellation still :p

[woven spire]

Egg

[terse dock]

I was making that point as a joke

[ember turtle]

well the current blue seal does that too

[wintry ice]

having a synergy with an uncommon isn't enough to save a card

[jade spoke]

I just don't like that Balatro has so many easy insta-wins if you just autopilot with half a brain cell IDK.

[ebon condor]

something being good with 1 specific joker is ass

[terse dock]

Erm

Blueprint

[rugged bloom]

Thanks themperor

You cool too

[rancid gull]

Doesn’t that mean ur just kinda good tho

If you know how to insta win

[ember turtle]

i have not played vanilla in two weeks

[stark charm]

royal flush new meta?

[ebon condor]

like im not saying chad and bluseals dont need nerfs, they 100% do, but there was a reason they were buffed in the first place

[jade spoke]

I mean you can win most seeds just by having decent econ and taking Blue Seal you see and knowing how to order your Jonklers.

[ember turtle]

i feel like straight flushes are unironically good but no one would agree

[ebon condor]

rebate can be reverted tho idk wtf thunk was thinking

[fiery nymph]

i love this game

winning ur first gs is such a good feeling

[wintry ice]

no

[jade spoke]

Rebate being $5 is criminal it's so busted.

[rancid gull]

I’m sure 1.1 will be revolutionary

[ember turtle]

trueeee

[wintry ice]

these spectral packs have been bad

[fiery nymph]

ima be real

[rancid gull]

4 bucks and it’s fine

[ebon condor]

1.1 will make fp b tier i believe

[rancid gull]

Or up it to uncommon

[terse dock]

Old gold stake made it mid

[jade spoke]

$3. Take it or leave it.

[fiery nymph]

once im deep into the game spectrals can just be hot shit 90% of the time

[ebon condor]

yeah but not THAT mid

[rancid gull]

I’d honestly rather have it be uncommon then

[ebon condor]

tho actually least deserved nerf: banner

whyd they do that

[jade spoke]

Considering it's going to be 3 discards in GS in 1.1 you do not need even more ways to get maximal value out of rebate.

[rancid gull]

I mean true actually

Speak your truth

[ebon condor]

no rebate needs to get hit HARD

[wintry ice]

i keep forgetting that you can play straights more than once per round with shortcut

[rancid gull]

I think 4 dollars is fine

[ebon condor]

its like top 3 jokers why

[rancid gull]

On par with golden ticket

[terse dock]

Just revert it

[terse dock]

• Cavendish
• Blueprint
• Riff Raff

[ebon condor]

eh rebate is better than riffraff

[wintry ice]

riff raff that high is a stretch

[terse dock]

Riff raff can be anything even a rebate

[fiery nymph]

fr

[jade spoke]

Top 3 is BP, BS, and Mail-In Rebate unironically.

[rancid gull]

Rental riff raff S tier

[woven spire]

Rebate is in the top 3 cmon

[rancid gull]

Unironically

[terse dock]

Naw brainstorm ain't up there

[vocal rose]

making it uncommon doesn't change how unbalanced it is

[ebon condor]

like its good but it needs things like "skill" and "foresight"

[vocal rose]

brainstorm and blueprint arent top 3

and brainstorm isnt top 10

[ebon condor]

which rebate does not need

[rancid gull]

Well making it rarer is a balancing maneuver

[jade spoke]

BS is worse than BP yes but it's literally still "be any Joker you want :)".

[vocal rose]

yes but that doesn't work for balancing

[rugged bloom]

Got two uncommons to block for the mime, hope it shows up soon

[ebon condor]

yeah but its still op. its just op and a bit rarer

[rancid gull]

How silly goose

[vocal rose]

a rarity balance doesn't change how much value it gives you WHEN you find it

[fiery nymph]

how do you even nerf rebate tho

[jade spoke]

What do you think is better than 2 Jokers that can be any Joker you want and can change what Joker they are depending on what's advantageous at the moment?

[terse dock]

5 -> 3

[jade spoke]

$3.

[terse dock]

It is that easy

[jade spoke]

Revert this.

[fiery nymph]

thats smart yeah

[frank notch]

whats the best deck to get gold on?

[vocal rose]

brainstorm is unable to copy optimally if you're running a +mult and x mult situation

which is USUALLY what you're doing on gold stake

[terse dock]

Yellow

[vocal rose]

meaning brainstorm cannot function as well as blueprint

[fiery nymph]

why did this happen

[rancid gull]

Whatever you find most fun

[vocal rose]

blue/yellow

[ebon condor]

well the bp/bs issue is that you need value to copy

[fiery nymph]

maybe even down to 4 could work

[frank notch]

fun doesnt matter steve

i need ease

[hardy fable]

Black

[vocal rose]

still too broken

[rancid gull]

Well if you want ease

Ghost

[terse dock]

Mmm still powercreeps to-do list

[rancid gull]

Find a green joker or ride the bus and hex it

[rugged bloom]

Got an oops to double the odds of the mime showing up

[wintry ice]

blue stake is getting a rework

so it needs to be 3

[ebon condor]

which you usually had but cuz th early games the hardest part, quick n easy value can be better

[vocal rose]

but cavendish, yorick, and rebate are the top 3

[jade spoke]

Yorick is not top 3 in a world where we're 2 discard GS.

[ebon condor]

no it is

[hardy fable]

stuntman, me, and myself is top 3

[terse dock]

its the same as madness with no downside

[ebon condor]

its so strong

[wintry ice]

it is top 3 in a world where it scales faster than madness with no cost

[rancid gull]

Oh stuntman

[jade spoke]

The downside is it takes an entire ante to get online.

[terse dock]

so does madness

[frank notch]

but a lot of jokers anti synergize with discards

[ember turtle]

i hope blue stake doesn't introduce a new joker sticker even tho i would like seeing a new one

[rancid gull]

Madness sucks

[jade spoke]

Yeah and Madness is niche.

[frank notch]

madness is great on gold stake

[hardy fable]

my kryptonite tho

[frank notch]

with eternals

[ebon condor]

madness is o k

[rancid gull]

If you have eternals lol

[vocal rose]

1.3x mult per ante

[terse dock]

Every joker except for cavendish is niche

[vocal rose]

that is crazy scaling

[wintry ice]

chat would this be good for my stencil run

[hardy fable]

very

chip and mult trust

[frank notch]

Delayed Gratification only gives money if no discards were used, forcing you to either not use any discards or lose out on a payout at the end of the round.
Banner is similar to Delayed Gratification discouraging you from using discards. However, it will only decrease in power when discarding, rather than being completely disabled.
Ramen is often a more powerful version of Banner giving XMult instead of Chips. Unlike Banner however, Ramen punishes the amount of cards discarded, rather than the number of discards used.
Green Joker will lose 1 Mult each time a discard is used.
Half Joker will restrict your ability to use pseudo-discards significantly.
Blue Joker will have its Chip value decreased with each card that is discarded.
Splash will prevent you from using pseudo-discards as all cards will score including ones you do not want.

[jade spoke]

There are plenty of other Jokers that can fulfill Yorick's scoring niche while not having to wait to be online.

[wintry ice]

if you take the consumable that has a 1 in 5 chance of giving immediate scoring when you need immediate scoring, it's not yorick's fault

[terse dock]

such as?

[frank notch]

canio + pareidolia + trading card

[terse dock]

brilliant

2 uncommon jokers

[frank notch]

scales 3x per ante

[hardy fable]

holo

[willow frost]

so what a different legendary and two uncommons lmao

[rugged bloom]

Guess this negative joker

[frank notch]

green

[rancid gull]

Green

[frank notch]

look at the pattern on his hat

[willow frost]

what about yorick and 2 merry andys

whats your opinion on that scaling

[ember turtle]

that's an extremely rare scenario

[rugged bloom]

Correct

[willow frost]

about as common as the other scenario

[rugged bloom]

Does the effect of two merry andyes stacks?

[ember turtle]

what's the other scenario

[wintry ice]

• irrelevant as delgrat sucks
• irrelevant as you won't need much supplemental scoring with yorick
• irrelevant as you won't need much supplemental scoring with yorick
• irrelevant as you get far more than what you spend on green joker
• genuinely what does this change
• irrelevant as you won't need much supplemental scoring with yorick
• genuinely what does this change

[jade spoke]

Card Sharp (only disadvantage being you need a setup hand, this is generally fine except vs. 2 specific bosses but lol just Justice 4head)
Cavendish (duh)
Trio, Family, Order, Tribe (pick one!)

[rancid gull]

I don’t see why not

[frank notch]

but yorick is rare

[willow frost]

double x's thing about canio + pareidolia + trading card

[frank notch]

as in the adjective not the rarity

[terse dock]

None of those provide the long-term though

[hardy fable]

ew, tribe

[wintry ice]

card sharp is vulnerable to bosses

[terse dock]

also tribe doesnt exist

[ember turtle]

getting two different uncommons is easier than getting two copies of one uncommon

[jade spoke]

You only need enough to win ante 8.

[wintry ice]

cavendish is literally top 3 so comparing a joker to it is like comparing an econ joker to rebate

[hardy fable]

and family and order is also hard to use as it's a 5 and 4 card hand

[wintry ice]

and the hand type xmult jokers are conditional

yorick isn't

[frank notch]

cavendish doesnt scale

[terse dock]

yeah and by ante 8 yorick is between x4 and x7 realistically

[hardy fable]

I see them as win more jokers

[royal bobcat]

thats not a bad thing

[frank notch]

for endless it is

[ember turtle]

cavendish is unreliable cause it can self distruct
grrr i hate food jokers like mr bones

[willow frost]

none of these get past 3x or 4x

[royal bobcat]

endless is irrelevant, even then scaling jokers suck for endless

[wintry ice]

scaling jokers suck for endless

[jade spoke]

If you only need x3 mult to win then you're not getting value from the extra xMult and have spent an ante with it doing nothing.

[frank notch]

i count baron and stm as scaling because they get bigger over time (with deck fixing)

and baron is like THE endless joker

[terse dock]

if you only need x3 mult then you can coast from the earlier ante where it hit the x3

[willow frost]

well replacing one merry andy with drunkard doesnt make much difference

[terse dock]

yorick passively scales

[royal bobcat]

were stretching the definition here

[rancid gull]

This is when you guys take bloodstone

[wintry ice]

well it's guarranteed to get to 3x in a reasonable amount of time

[ember turtle]

i think it actually does but it certainly is easier to obtain

[wintry ice]

and can get far larger very easily

[terse dock]

it takes 2 antes to hit x3

[frank notch]

bloodstone kills you in real life if you dont have 6ops

[willow frost]

yeah

[ember turtle]

bloodstone rng is worse than 8ball change my mind

[frank notch]

cavendish hits more than bloodstone

[jade spoke]

In 2 antes from now, not now.
Cavendish or Card Sharp or whatever is x3 now and requires no set up.

[wintry ice]

well you need bloodstone to hit for you to live

[ember turtle]

also you have to pivot to urgh- flushes...

[royal bobcat]

with bloodstone u fight for your life every hand

[terse dock]

Cavendish literally does require a setup and card sharp is vulnerable to bosses

[ember turtle]

15 chips, 2 mult...

[willow frost]

ok so scaling jokers are useless because they dont instantly give you stuff?

[wintry ice]

again, if you take the consumable that has a 1 in 5 chance of giving immediate scoring when you need immediate scoring, it's not yorick's fault

[frank notch]

but bloodstone and oops transfers 1 trillion dollars into your bank account

[rugged bloom]

chat the showman helped me get a showman

[willow frost]

classic

[ember turtle]

i do not believe in cavendish because i need a specific common to appear twice in a shop and since my econ sucks ass i can never set cavendish up

[jade spoke]

Yorick is a legendary that has a <1% chance of showing up, Grimbo is a common I can pick up easily.

[frank notch]

bloodstone and oops is like balatro exidoa

[terse dock]

actually cavendish has around a 2 ante up time as well on average due to the 1/6

[wintry ice]

if you get the joker you get the joker

if you don't, why talk about it

[ember turtle]

a 2 ante up time? what

[wintry ice]

holy econ

[terse dock]

gros michel rolls a 1/6 at the end of every round

[ember turtle]

oh i get it

[royal bobcat]

then ancient joker is exodia and happy meal and a gas tank refill

[robust lance]

A third of the power when you think about it

[ember turtle]

i remember when my banan didn't break for 20 rounds

[robust lance]

My question is why does faceless joker give you money

Are we taking faces?

[wintry ice]

omniman meme dot jpeg

[terse dock]

Slend er Man

[jade spoke]

Because a Legendary needing to wait an ante to do anything is silly when its other scaling cousin, Canio, can be scaled almost instantly with Hanged Man or something.

It's like. Yorick is good but it's not top 3.

[frank notch]

ancient doesnt use suit picking like rebate so to get full value youd have to get every card in your deck wild

[robust lance]

eeyikes!!!

[wintry ice]

almost instantly if you get hanged man that quickly

[terse dock]

yeah but canio requires you to roll a (1/22)*5 to see a hung man in a given arcana pack

[wintry ice]

your arguments are based on conditionals in a game about consistency

[ember turtle]

i didn't know cavendish existed when i played the game first, i think it was my last discovered joker

[last path]

eternal jimbo carry gold stake run.

[jade spoke]

There are more ways to generate Tarots than there are to give yourself more discards.

[ember turtle]

true

[shell dagger]

but you nearly always have a baseline source of discards

[ember turtle]

a limited source of discards used to... discard cards

[jade spoke]

(And there's other card destruction besides Hanged Man anyway).

[terse dock]

one every round, a specific rare joker that gives you a condition which defeats the point, Superposition, vouchers

[ancient gyro]

what nonsense did I come back to this time

[wintry ice]

yorick slander

[frank notch]

we're arguing about yorick vs canio

[ancient gyro]

k im out

[wintry ice]

the

[last path]

spectral card destruction is really weird. sometimes it counts sometimes it doesn't

[ember turtle]

tarot gen is balanced imo

[robust lance]

Neither would fight and they would make out

[jade spoke]

Yorick isn't a top 3 Joker but I didn't even say it was bad.

[shell dagger]

for canio it always counts

[terse dock]

immolate does but the card generators dont

[shell dagger]

just glass joker where it doesn’t

[terse dock]

am I stupid

[shell dagger]

yeaj

[terse dock]

ok sorry

[robust lance]

50/50

[shell dagger]

but don’t worry

loads of people here said the same thing for months

[woven spire]

only if red card was eternal

[robust lance]

Like 50/50 Gandhi

[wintry ice]

what do you consider better?

[frank notch]

cleb put flash before mad and reroll once

[terse dock]

im going nuclear

[robust lance]

Flash card carry (make sure to move it)

[woven spire]

yh ik i just bought flash

i wont reroll tho

[terse dock]

Do not reroll you will die irl

[shell dagger]

save money for interest, trust !!!! (actually don’t reroll tho, u don’t need the score and won’t be able o buy anything)

[ember turtle]

you don't need to spend 5 (+1 interest) $ to save 1$ (extra hand value)

[woven spire]

watch me

[terse dock]

Dude its boss blind ante 1 he isnt even getting the hand value

[jade spoke]

Top 3 is BP, BS, Mail-In.

[spring granite]

reroll addiction is terminal

[ancient gyro]

two of those aren't in the top 3

[ember turtle]

i mean he can two shot it, one shot if he rerolls

but he shouldn't reroll

cause he'll go 5 dollars down the econ

[frank notch]

balatro joker that enneates your mult by graham's number but kills you in real life if you dont have flower pot

[jade spoke]

Perkeo is better than Yorick, Canio and Trib are debatably better than Yorick depending on situation but like. They're still good.

[terse dock]

I meant hes going to win in 1 anyway if he doesnt misplay

[shell dagger]

alicia are you talking about gold stake or endless mode

[ember turtle]

uh no?

[fiery nymph]

i hardly ever get to use legendaries in gold stake

[ember turtle]

a 1.5x madness is not gonna make a standard 5 card hand score 600

[wintry ice]

how so?

[terse dock]

foil

[jade spoke]

Endless mode is a mode where 90% of Jokers may as well not exist so.

[ember turtle]

there's no foil

[jade spoke]

I don't find it interesting.

[ember turtle]

that's the texture pack

[terse dock]

oh my god

there isnt

[ember turtle]

lmao

[wintry ice]

someone already went on about why brainstorm isn't nearly as good as bp in gold stake

[terse dock]

Why is it so blue

[ancient gyro]

zoahl yapping again

[jade spoke]

It is still copying literally any Joker you want‼️

[ember turtle]

oversaturation, it's a cool texture pack tbh

[wintry ice]

well anyways

[shell dagger]

bad with+mults

[terse dock]

It fucked with my blind ass

[fiery nymph]

even though its worse than bp i still think its a top 3 joker

[wintry ice]

you're still limited to roughly 2x scoring if you're using a scaling +mult joker

which you often are

[ember turtle]

lol

[wintry ice]

anyways please explain this

[fiery nymph]

just brainstorm the blueprint 🧠

[cosmic sun]

campfire doubters...

[terse dock]

Dude i was hallucinating the foil texture in

[ember turtle]

brainstorm sucks

[ancient gyro]

say that one more time

[wintry ice]

trib being better than yorick if we're talking about the gamemode where 1 bad draw kills it makes no sense

[ancient gyro]

just like how you said it

[ember turtle]

i know i know, i can see why you would see it

[ember turtle]

as a blueprint alt

[exotic mica]

how can i improve this for flush build

[smoky wraith]

This game is held by duck tape and faith, holy shit

[shell dagger]

stop skipping

[exotic mica]

no

[fiery nymph]

this run is so fried

[ember turtle]

deckfix and turn your entire deck into one suit

[exotic mica]

thats my plan

[smoky wraith]

Sigil value 🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[ember turtle]

go up to 3.5 flushes per round (on average)

[fiery nymph]

find aj 🙏

[ember turtle]

it will not hit the suit ...

[exotic mica]

im only on round 4

[smoky wraith]

That's a detail

[ember turtle]

you're almost on ante 4 😭

[wintry ice]

honestly this sounds better than bus if i'm gonna have faceless

[exotic mica]

yeah but im scoring x3 required in one hand

[ember turtle]

i fucking hate the bus urgh

[jade spoke]

• Perkeo is at worst an instant econ solver, that's busted.

• Canio is IME easier and quicker to scale if I'm going to take a scaler. Card destruction exists pretty frequently and you usually don't need 10,000,000 Xmult to win Ante 8.

• Trib is just like if Photo was even dumber. Yeah no Jacks but who cares. Play your King 5OAK or your KQ 2 Pair who even cares. Ofc even stupider with any retriggers.

[smoky wraith]

Score is not the only important part of the game

[fiery nymph]

nothing you have scales at all

[cosmic sun]

Yorick solos

[ancient gyro]

so what exactly do I need to change in my play style in order to receive the x1.3 mult benefits from ricky?

as opposed to the existing alternative legendaries that need a similar threshold to not be of equal or greater risk against boss and finisher blinds for them to surpass rick

[exotic mica]

thats only two shops worth of jokers it will imporve

[rancid gull]

Thank you Todd Chavez

[wintry ice]

how is canio easier to scale if it relies on external factors and yorick doesn't?