🕹・game-discussion

[grand shadow]

tasty eggs

[oak axle]

Salvaged the run by saving before I ankh

Flush five by ante 3

Lol

[tall owl]

💔

[oak axle]

Nah f u

[tall owl]

god damn how did you do it 😭

[granite heron]

oh my god

[grand shadow]

be honest, how many of you cheat by quickly closing the game when you make a mistake or something goes wrong? i did that on my first c++ run. i'm doing it legit this time

[granite heron]

whats crazy is thats only like x2 chips

[hollow nebula]

That's possible??

[tall owl]

dude it sucks but this is probably goodbye to yorick 💔

[subtle drum]

how do u get past a12

[grand shadow]

@timelord respectable to admit you did it more than you care to admit

[granite heron]

wait ive never seen chicot vs acorn before that's so funny

[subtle drum]

nooo rebate

[granite heron]

it shuffles your jokers and then chicot immediately says "nuh uh" and flips up again

[tall owl]

i need rebate to buy deckfixing 💔

[grand shadow]

@hollow nebula yeah, i mean if you realize you made a mistake while the jokers are still scoring, you can close the game and it will be like you didn't play the hand

[tall owl]

yeah the game saves id say 1-3 seconds after every action

[tall owl]

well after the end of an action

[grand shadow]

i also would cheat on the bosses that put cards face down and stuff, because i was just too impatient. like you can play the cards, see what they are, then restart the game. but again, i'm doing it legit this time. no cheating

x ray vision is a nice power to have

[oak axle]

Temptation

[grand shadow]

more chicots

[cursive lion]

look i love chicot too but dear god

[grand shadow]

why isn't there a joker that scales off of how many chicots you have? that's my question

[cursive lion]

on god?

[strange abyss]

The 3rd chicot

[knotty zodiac]

Bunny Girl: x13 mult for each Legendary joker destroyed

[tall owl]

is it time to sell dna?

[upper spade]

Probably cuz the chance of getting Soul is 0.3%, then getting Chicot is a 20% chance.

[grand shadow]

never sell your dna, the government will make a copy of you

[cursive lion]

let me just uh dig his grave up first

yeah

nah its okay

[inner stratus]

if i have 2 hands and 2 troubadour's will i insta lose

does troubadour apply in the shop or does it apply once the round is entered

[knotty zodiac]

if your hand size reaches 0 you lose as soon as a round starts

[inner stratus]

not hand size

[knotty zodiac]

but in shop you are ok

[grand shadow]

wait, that's hilarious, i didn't even realize you could do that

[inner stratus]

im wondering if the 2 hands it shows in the shop is after or before troubadour's -1 hand per round

[oak axle]

Natural Negative Gtick

[knotty zodiac]

ah sry read that wrong. i think there's no check for hands in shop, checking

[tall owl]

balatro tip, balancing retriggers and money hits is also something you should do

[knotty zodiac]

https://www.reddit.com/r/balatro/comments/1bmtbli/comment/mqdyck2/

i dont think youll hit 0 hands

[glossy mortar]

Imma be honest. I think Blue Stake is just bad and should be removed from the game. No matter what you do, it’s basically impossible even on the best of decks to make anything more than pair be reliable fast enough to survive to the end. I’m almost all runs that make it past ante 3, it’s either pairs or high card. Like what is the point of higher stakes if playing anything but pairs is basically a death sentence.

[tall owl]

youre so incredibly welcome for my presence

[inner stratus]

ok. this run is really good so im going to sell it to be safe but its pretty funny to think about

[oak axle]

Triple chicot

Plus natural gtik nega

If I don't

Imma make a Ai bot that makes gmail accounts just to track you down and annoy you until you give me 4 bitcoins

[grand shadow]

if i'm being honest, it sounds like you don't have enough experience at the game to have this opinion. but yes, pairs are good and the meta.

[glossy mortar]

I mean I definitely don’t. You need like 1000+ hours to have even a semblance of skill to beat any seed thrown at you. I’m only at hour like 40 maybe? Not even 5% of the way to the bare minimum of skill.

[oak axle]

Imma go ahead and try the run with Baron Build

Since the run gives me Bp and Baron early with invis joker and nat gtik

[grand shadow]

cool, it's good to recognize that. i'm at hour 400 myself and i also know i'm way worse than the best players.

[strange compass]

They may not but this is something anyone who has played blue stake can figure out

Oof Photochad really does hit the wall at ante 12

I double photo and double chad + sock and bus

[spring granite]

lucky cards will save you

[grand shadow]

like, i def agree that blue stake is less fun and maybe not the best way to be challenging. i feel the same way about black deck. but i dunno, there are only so many things you can do

[strange compass]

I think reducing a hand might be better. It doesn't impact pair builds that much

But ye idk what the fix would be

[grand shadow]

i hope new update gives more support for aces. i have a poker background, so it was really hard for me to get used to the fact that aces aren't actually good in this game

[manic talon]

Basically most builds hit a wall on 11 or 12, part of why the unlock only goes to ante 12 at max

[strange compass]

Yes Aces can be better but Scholar is kinda slept on

[grand shadow]

scholar can be helpful to get through early game but it's not strong or anything

[strange compass]

I had like 6 retriggers

[wooden hare]

Anyone got tips on how to beat the golden needle challenge? been through about 50 tries

[manic talon]

Yea but only 1 card that actually does the scoring

[sacred trench]

Got rough gem and burnt joker to gold

With a natural negative rebait

[strange compass]

Scholar + Chad + Fibonacci + x mult joker is probably the best Ace build

[grand shadow]

@sacred trench nice, rough gem was literally my last joker to gold sticker

[sacred trench]

A very fun joker

I didn't have brainstorm the full run

[strange compass]

Scholar+Chad+Fibonacci+Odd Todd+ x mult joker

[grand shadow]

yeah, it's just a little weird to me that Aces aren't more supported. poker brain thinks aces are good... make them good please.

[weary whale]

It’s one of the 3 challenges I need

[wooden hare]

same

I've trying to do them in order

really?

[grand shadow]

@soft pendant lol, i would say poker made me worse at balatro

[wooden hare]

after 500 hrs i think ive actually gotten better

[subtle drum]

bro i have 3 hand size help 💀

[wooden hare]

no one at the casual night gets my jokes 😔

[wooden hare]

dawg 💀

[grand shadow]

and also, it hurts my poker soul when i score more points playing a pair than a straight flush

[wooden hare]

well that another can of worms

[terse vale]

fib is there!

also kinda has synergy with bus

[grand shadow]

i love fib, but it's still not enough A support

needs a boost

[terse vale]

ehhh its fine

some ranks can be mostly unsupported

[wooden hare]

speaking of not enough ace support crazy how 2 is more supported than A

[grand shadow]

@wooden hare right, the best players literally use strength to turn 2s into As early in a run. that's wild

[wooden hare]

I do that

[faint linden]

Blue Stake Full House build

[wooden hare]

i've always thought it was insane

[grand shadow]

er, i meant As into 2s

i said it backwards but yeah

[wooden hare]

yeah no i get you

[night bridge]

Hack my beloved

[tall owl]

after 3 invisible misses i died btw

[terse vale]

its usually 8 into 9s

[tall owl]

new run

[faint linden]

And Wee and Fibonacci

[celest vessel]

just got my first naneinf and it was very strange

[tall owl]

e17 purple stake red deck

baron run

[celest vessel]

Didn't have either hand size voucher but got bailed out by a juggle tag and a nat negative juggler that pushed me over the line

[wooden hare]

https://klipy.com/gifs/reggie-my-body-is-ready

[celest vessel]

anyway it bricked my console and completely erased my high score on my profile lol

fun times

[night bridge]

What ante was that

Sounds clutch

[celest vessel]

28

[faint linden]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[celest vessel]

really close call since I got an antimatter right on ante 23 and then immediately found a showman and found the brainstorm the ante 24 starting shop

[tall owl]

wtf lmao

[grand shadow]

i'm sorry but what is this bunny-girls thing

[stark charm]

Mod do smth bro

Yes sir

Nah he is gone

[celest vessel]

actually insane luck

[spring granite]

what console?

[wooden hare]

i dont know many pokers only about 3 max but if you think about it in a game where you can play multiple hands you're going to proiritise hand you can easily find plus if you're using some voodoo to make magic points go higher then what's an easy hand to find and also scales decent

[celest vessel]

I couldn't find the seed, I tried to get the game over screen but the game crashed every time I tried to play a hand

I think I had too many cards of the same suit

[stark charm]

We only post doomed Balatro yuri here

[trail hemlock]

At least reply to the person who needs modding pls

Are they gone?

[celest vessel]

true

[tulip sapphire]

first win

[wooden hare]

Nice

[faint linden]

Yes

[grand shadow]

@wooden hare no, i get it in the sense of building around a hand type, but there are just times where it feels weird that playing a straight flush is bad

[faint linden]

Sorry. I'll do that in the future

[trail hemlock]

No worries. I just say it as a reminder

[stark charm]

Photo Chad is free win card bro

[celest vessel]

[wooden hare]

have u seen the straight flush only challenge someone did?

[stark charm]

I wanna do royal flush build

[grand shadow]

@wooden hare i saw a post on reddit like that, yeah. sounds crazy

[stark charm]

I might need to manipulate my luck to get perkeo hanged man first shop

[manic talon]

imagine if they also did flush 5 only 🙂

[celest vessel]

aha found the screenshot

[fringe crest]

what happen

[wooden hare]

the same person did that too thats also where i foudn out how local thunk decided the rules for what a straight flush is which shortcut and 4 figners

[wooden hare]

i cant tell if you're serious

[celest vessel]

poor game died of number but got the clickbait juggle tag naneinf

[wooden hare]

promo

server promo

[fringe crest]

oh

[fringe crest]

i think he did

[wooden hare]

yeah

he did

[icy hollow]

Pretty good ante 5 start. Already got retcon too

No blank yet tho

[fringe crest]

wait a minute

[manic talon]

i was there when it was written

[fringe crest]

i remember you

[wooden hare]

lol

[upper spade]

If I lose this.
I'm gonna lose it.

[sly osprey]

y'all if people are not adding to the conversation or spamming, please feel free to send their user ID in a #mod-mail

[celest vessel]

not bad

I guess this is just about the bare minimum you can get naneinf with then?

[upper spade]

Are we deadass?

[celest vessel]

I hope that in the update coming soon there is more than one realistic way to get a naneinf besides yuri

[icy hollow]

Ok just got baron lol w

[potent tree]

how many queens were left i wonder

[upper spade]

All of them.

[potent tree]

yeah kinda luck i get sometimes

no deck thinning kinda gets you that tho

[manic talon]

this is what happens to straights

[upper spade]

I don't really tend to deck thin when running straights.
I have had the lower ones save me sometimes.

[potent tree]

straights have good scaling (tied with 4oak) but heavily reliant on thinning deck or finding shortcut

i say thinning specifically because you have scholar, and that only works with 2 different straights

it can be more if you have shortcut, but still that's less common

[upper spade]

Yeah.

Then again.
It's just luck what I find.

[potent tree]

if straights could wrap around both ends of the ace, it would be probably the best hand i'd say

[upper spade]

What do you mean by that?

[potent tree]

something like 3 2 A K Q

[manic talon]

be honest it would still be pairs

[upper spade]

Is that not possible?

[potent tree]

[manic talon]

not in balala

[upper spade]

I feel like that should be now that someone said it.

[potent tree]

pair may be my most played hand, but i'm slowly gravitating back to full house

[manic talon]

some poker variants allows wraparound straights, but not the poker variant balatro is based around

[upper spade]

Yeah.
I'm stuck to high card.

[grand shadow]

full house is playing on hard mode, but do what brings you joy

[manic talon]

i missed 69420 flush played its so over

[potent tree]

how many wins on this profile

[potent tree]

hot damn.

[grand shadow]

respect

[potent tree]

i had 212 wins before i stopped playing on my first save

[grand shadow]

similar for me. i was around 200 when i got c++, just started new profile to do it again

[fringe nebula]

2 natural negatives??????????????

[smoky yacht]

I did something I find cool! I am new to balatro, so I find it cool

[potent tree]

free temp value

[fringe nebula]

FT will get killed by madness so no

unfortunate

[potent tree]

well at least cloud 9 is

yea

[potent tree]

fullskip ez

[rancid gull]

I love bloodstone

[manic talon]

you can just fullskip its ante 7

[strange compass]

Close call

[grand shadow]

every time i get a natural negative it is a complete surprise to me, i always forget that can happen

[potent tree]

@serene forge

[rancid gull]

I’m here to reverse the tides

[manic talon]

bloodstone is an 89% winrate joker if you lock in

[rancid gull]

I also love Yorick

How about them apples

Win rate on that one?

[potent tree]

what mod allows seeing these stats if i may ask

[manic talon]

balatrostats.com

[fringe nebula]

cloud nine, stone joker, and lusty gold sticker

[manic talon]

no mods

[rancid gull]

I hate to be that guy

[potent tree]

and you just plug in profile information?

[manic talon]

ye, your profile.jkr

[potent tree]

ah i see. i'll have to try it

[manic talon]

of course it only works on PC

[rancid gull]

Wait wtf??? Really?????

Wait I’m locking in

[potent tree]

i am not getting apple arcade balatro

[rancid gull]

How do I find my jkr?

[potent tree]

game files probably

[manic talon]

technically it works on mobile but its complicated

[rancid gull]

Well yeah silly

[potent tree]

i've never heard of a joker file extension tho

i'd go and check now but my mom still likes setting bedtimes

[manic talon]

type %appdata%/balatro on your Run dialog box on windows (Windows + R)

[rancid gull]

you are actually amazing

[deft sandal]

idk why but this run is so stressful

[dense pumice]

whats the deck looking like

[rancid gull]

oop...

my win rate is so bad lmao

[manic talon]

do schools not teach stuff like this anymore? cuz when i was in high school computer literacy was a whole ass curriculum

[deft sandal]

just spamming pairs atm

[rancid gull]

well i was going to check %appdata% but i appreciated your input anywasy

just wanted to glaze ya a little bit

[deft sandal]

Im not buying paint brush for the sake of blackboard

[dense pumice]

have u deckbuilt at all other than getting rid of two cards

[deft sandal]

my econ is fucked

[dense pumice]

gulp

[deft sandal]

omg more deck fixing

[manic talon]

this build doesnt need any deckbuild

burnt chicot blackboard blueprint, thats just a free win ngl

[dense pumice]

he has blackboard so its better if he gets rid of hearts and diamonds

[manic talon]

no

theyre playing pairs

[deft sandal]

tbh, I only need world/moon

ok, I hit sigil

[dense pumice]

true...

[manic talon]

all they need is to have 3 black suits at every hand and blackboard is online

[deft sandal]

everything became spades

[dense pumice]

copy diet cola with blueprint and sell it

for the double tag

[deft sandal]

great idea

[dense pumice]

😂

[manic talon]

sell the blueprint to get an extra double tag

[deft sandal]

thank god I have chiGoat

[rancid gull]

is an 18% win rate on gold stake bad?

[deft sandal]

how you see your win rate on a stake

[rancid gull]

on balatrostats.com

[deft sandal]

oh

[rancid gull]

and you upload your profile.jkr

like how vayn said

[woven spire]

mine is like a 3%

lol

[manic talon]

it could be worse

[rancid gull]

rip lmao

[rancid gull]

hello cleb

[torpid bridge]

18% is decent ig

[woven spire]

sup

[woven spire]

yeah

i wouldn’t say it’s bad

[deft sandal]

where to find that profile.jkr

[manic talon]

type %appdata%/balatro on your Run dialog box on windows (Windows + R)

[rancid gull]

%appdata%

[torpid bridge]

I play on phone btw

I hate using computer

Who uses computers these days

[manic talon]

i bought balala on my phone and i've only done 10 runs on it since

PC is just way nicer

[deft sandal]

9.3% win rate on gold stake for me

[icy hollow]

u can request data form google

and they send u in email

[torpid bridge]

Phone gestures are better experience for me

[icy hollow]

and u can submit from there

[torpid bridge]

Balatro is better to play on small screen

[rancid gull]

nah

[icy hollow]

balatro is like my "waiting" game

like when im in a train or smth

or bored in class

[torpid bridge]

Yeah totally agree

[icy hollow]

but not rly like locked in pc game. so it works nicer on phone for me

[deft sandal]

I dont even know how I only have 6.7 tarot packs used per run

Damn i'm rich

[torpid bridge]

I mean thats normal

[manic talon]

say that again

[torpid bridge]

You have only 8 anted

[deft sandal]

stop it

[torpid bridge]

6.3 is kinda the average number of tarot packs

Per run

[knotty zodiac]

goodbye ante 1 gros 🥲

[deft sandal]

I still have 40k in my savings

[icy hollow]

kinda acrazy run

ante 7 rn

got 4 nat negatives already

[deft sandal]

crazy? i was crazy once

[icy hollow]

lowk annoying tho cus i got a baron now and im winning too fast to farm ticket fully

but like baron also scary to greed too hard cus i maybe just draw too few

[manic talon]

non gold stake winrate, just putting it here for no reason

[deft sandal]

4 new gold stickers!

[icy hollow]

ay just got bueprint

yo wtf

i just got another negative

5 negatives by ante 7

[vestal copper]

chigoat

[deft sandal]

chicot definitely the best one here

the last legendary that needed gold sticker

then I copied the cola and sold the blueprint and the cola

[tall owl]

i love winning cause mime almost by itself is a good joker

the bell is annoying tho

almost killed me but hey thats the blind 😭

[deft sandal]

damn I'm weak without blueprint

[tall owl]

"oh no i have no money and all my joker slots are full!!"
the humble credit card:

[manic talon]

who knew an extra X3 is good

[deft sandal]

i had a 4x mult joker but I lost it and I got blueprint

[deft sandal]

By 4x Mult joker, I mean Mr Bones

[icy hollow]

finally got a mime holy i rolled so much

havent even seen a sixthsense yet tho im pretty sure 🤔

[knotty zodiac]

goodbye wee

[deft sandal]

keep it

[torpid bridge]

For what?

[manic talon]

why would you ever sell wee here

[knotty zodiac]

i think i need to clean the deck and look for idel

[icy hollow]

aura farming

[deft sandal]

keep it until you find it

[torpid bridge]

You dont have other thing to switch in now

[manic talon]

aura isnt even a good spectral

[knotty zodiac]

verdant is going to slow down my deck cleaning

[digital pewter]

well only a single gold sticker on the midas mask, but a sticker's a sticker

[knotty zodiac]

at this point the wee is just a 2xmult

[digital pewter]

baseballing it

[deft sandal]

It is good when it hits polychrome, in other instances, it is not

[digital pewter]

also it was really funny to have this combo in specific on abandoned deck

[manic talon]

i would argue its best if it hits holographic

[deft sandal]

depends on the stage of run

if you are in early game, yes

[icy hollow]

xmult before jokers is usually not that valuable

but +10 mult is always +10

[deft sandal]

and if you in early game plasma, foil is the best

[digital pewter]

foiled again

[icy hollow]

polychrome just for mediocre endless runs fr

[digital pewter]

polychrome is for when you want your jokers to look cool

[deft sandal]

why they dont have a spectral that polychrome a random card in hand and destroy all other cards like Hex does to jokers

[digital pewter]

that reminds me of a run i had one time i need to see if i can find it

[zinc zephyr]

But like would you prefer +10 mult in ante 15

[icy hollow]

thats why i said polychrome is only for mediocre endless runs

[deft sandal]

and the fact is polychrome doesn't help you naneinf in any way

[zinc zephyr]

Nothing can satisfy c++ players

[icy hollow]

yea thats why i said mediocre

[zinc zephyr]

Add 20 more variations of obelisk to the game immediately

[manic talon]

it also seldom helps you on ante 8

Polychrome is just mid

[deft sandal]

Wrong conjunction, my bad

[digital pewter]

got all 4 uncommon suit jokers in a run for a wild deck

image old as hell though

[icy hollow]

for ante 8 its not that useful, for true endless runs it doesnt really help baron mime much at all

[deft sandal]

my brain is fried from my last run

[manic talon]

Marvel cinematic universe lookin ass build

[deft sandal]

In my head I was typing "and" and my hands typed "but"

[digital pewter]

that's what i'm saying!!!!!

[icy hollow]

😩 $50 temperance is so nice

[digital pewter]

plus the oops in the photo

[deft sandal]

there's an oops all six for your bloodstone

[icy hollow]

just made 150 from 2 rerolls

holy

2 more rolls and another 50

[unreal topaz]

hello there

[digital pewter]

oh yeah this was from ages ago i just refound the photo

[icy hollow]

wtf aonther one

250 in 5 rolls

😭

[unreal topaz]

i swear they come in batches

[digital pewter]

bro has tarot uhh

i forgot the name

monopoly?

[deft sandal]

Who even play straight nowadays

[icy hollow]

tycoon

[digital pewter]

somethin like that

yeah that's it

[icy hollow]

i dont have either tarot voucher tho lol

[unreal topaz]

you get none for 4 antes and boom, 3 in one shop

[unreal topaz]

infinite money glitch

[digital pewter]

i just had a spare trousers runner run

[icy hollow]

gift card my goat

[unreal topaz]

i mean runner is a joker best with pairs

[digital pewter]

always scaling chips or mult was pretty fun

[deft sandal]

everytime i pick up spare trousers, the sqaure guy just shows up next reroll

aIways love a Spongebob run

[icy hollow]

ay got a 2nd brainstorm with my showman

and ecto

[digital pewter]

wait i just remembered this other run

[icy hollow]

without needing to 6th sense

🗣️ 🔥 getting bailed out

just need blank.....

[queen reef]

Finally got the dice setup. $16,595 in 1 round.

[icy hollow]

holy another nat negative

blackboard

[deft sandal]

I had a spongebob run like this but I died to the wall

[icy hollow]

6 nat negatives in ante 11

[deft sandal]

Damn, you got spongebob and patrick

[digital pewter]

ikr

the ultimate spongebob build...

[manic talon]

square joker isnt even that good with pants because 2 pair scales chips like crazy

[deft sandal]

we be picking square up just for fun

[deft sandal]

pants is in my top 10 lol

[digital pewter]

my top 10

[deft sandal]

Ah yes, my fellow photochad player

[icy hollow]

omg i just played my first 8 this run

[digital pewter]

we love photochad!

[fringe crest]

im never leaking my top ten

[icy hollow]

i forgot i had a nat negative 8 ball

🔥 free moon tarot card

massive

game changing

[fringe crest]

crazy

game winner right there

[digital pewter]

damn, if only it had been... a sun card...

[icy hollow]

what do u mean by that....

[digital pewter]

nothing in particular...

[icy hollow]

i hope youre not insinuating that I would EVER use bloodstone

[glossy forge]

I think it's a Heiroglyph angle

[fringe nebula]

loooool i brought luchador from ante 2 until 8 (before even getting a baseball)

[glossy forge]

Question, does a negative planet in my consumables block it in the booster packs?

[manic talon]

never not funny

[glossy forge]

I.e I have a negative Pluto

[icy hollow]

yes

[digital pewter]

what? you, insinuating that i would insinuate you should be going for bloodstone?

what a preposterous idea...

[manic talon]

assuming you have no telescope, yes

[icy hollow]

youre on thin ice....

[glossy forge]

Pair maxxed 😭

[digital pewter]

toilet bowl cause i'm always flushing

[junior horizon]

guys?

[digital pewter]

i've been going more heavily into pairs though

[digital pewter]

fire

now get +nan

[manic talon]

i think this happens if you get naneinf before plasma balances your score

[junior horizon]

fuckin damn

[manic talon]

too greedy smh

[digital pewter]

alright chat what deck should i use next for gold sticker grinding

[manic talon]

checkered

[digital pewter]

fire

returning to old habits

this will have lasting and irreversible consequences

[fringe nebula]

here, win

[manic talon]

surely it wont end that bad, i turn out fine, i think

[digital pewter]

+2/+4 mult a round aint bad

just don't pick up the clearance sale if you do lol

then it's always +2

[fringe nebula]

i don't even have the money to take clearance pls

besides, taking that voucher is bad with dagger play

got natural negative walkie talkie from riff raff

[digital pewter]

you.

[manic talon]

damn

unfortunate

[digital star]

My deck is fully fixed with heart kings, what should I put in the remaining slots as I get them, seed is MA5PLGCH

Current vouchers

[rugged bloom]

Has an invis ever hit the wrong joker for you?

Just get an Oops! All Sixes! to improve the odds of it hitting what you want to

[simple radish]

I just tried balatro

and i can't figure it out

like i followed the hands and suits

but apparently they never matched even if it followed what the guide said

[white flint]

it hit an oops all sixes when my build was photochad bloodstone oops

it was my 1st gold stake run that i won

also what type of hands should i go for with abandoned deck

[elder ore]

Bruh

[white flint]

sell the verdeant leaf

[fringe nebula]

guys trust me walkie talkie and four fingers carried this run

[rapid sedge]

starts sobbing

[manic talon]

I LOVE BLOODSTONE GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[manic talon]

4 fingers made it possible to play pairs with 4 cards

[simple radish]

are there extremely specific parameters the cards need to follow when being played in order to hit the mark for scoring???

[fringe nebula]

yes

[simple radish]

why tho

like i know about the poker hands and shit

[manic talon]

the sock and buskin or one of the blueprint/brainstorm isnt even needed, killed by your own hubris

[simple radish]

but even if you follow the hands LOOSELY it doesn't count for anything

like three of a pair would be the same suit or same number but have either wrong and it doesn't score it

so like have ONE card of different suit but same number or same suit and different number

[strange abyss]

yes

[strange abyss]

unless you have showman

[manic talon]

theres a base requirement for what poker hand counts, just like normal poker
but some joker adds to the requirement in your hand to be able to contribute and add to your score

[simple radish]

wh

[tall owl]

my runs arent real today

like no way bro

[blissful fog]

Burglar the goat

[tall owl]

isnt 2 legendaries like a 1/111k chance 😭

[fringe nebula]

chicot disabling the eye is such a massive blessing

[rugged bloom]

Chigoat for a reason

[fringe nebula]

priorities mate

get your priorities straight and go to college

[digital pewter]

A BUILD FOR THE CENTURIES.

[manic talon]

naneinf arent even that fun to ditch college for

[digital pewter]

TRIPLE THROWBACK BARRAGE

[manic talon]

atleast do drugs or smth

[fringe nebula]

double ecto lmaoo

[blissful fog]

How much mult does the throwback have?

[manic talon]

weakest checkered run

[digital pewter]

x3.25

[blissful fog]

Good enough lol

[fringe nebula]

do it

win

[digital pewter]

i got two of them and started skipping like crazy when the tags were decent

i 100% win though

i scored millions before

[unreal topaz]

blue seals so op i could win with a pair and no jokers

[digital pewter]

5 gold stickers in one run is big

especially with two being rares

[rugged bloom]

I'm failing anyways lmfao

Anyways time to push naneinf

/j

[digital pewter]

admittedly, slightly closer than i would have liked

[digital pewter]

that's really how they be

[blissful fog]

A win is a win

[digital pewter]

anyways yeah, big gold sticker run

sun's getting real low man

[covert steeple]

Its insane what I just watched

[wet jackal]

Give me my fucking pair levels you little shit

[covert steeple]

Someone did a 100% Balatro speedrun (C++, all Steam achievements, EVERYTHING) in 40 hours

[tall owl]

teehee

[manic talon]

Oh right that is happening, which one of them did it first?

[tall owl]

yo

[covert steeple]

CinematicGaming

[manic talon]

Nice

[covert steeple]

Yo yo yo

Pleasure to be here

Now I may wanna get some sleep

[blazing kernel]

finally a decent run to finish off orange stake on red deck

[tall owl]

space joker is good if youre already in a slightly comfortable position and not trying to upgrade some hard hand like 5oak or ff

[covert steeple]

He spent an hour after Jokerless looking for one voucher

So that was an interesting reaction

[wet jackal]

Space joker either pops off or does nothing, there is no in between

[urban forum]

Guys how much butter is too much butter on a waffle

[simple radish]

never enough

[urban forum]

Wrong channel

[simple radish]

ah aight

[manic talon]

99% of gamblers quit before space jokers hit your desired hand, keep gambling

[fringe nebula]

i love magic deck

[wet jackal]

Space joker can either carry your gold stake run or do nothing

[simple radish]

can we have a waffle joker

like a card that's just a waffle

[wet jackal]

I'm a big fan of checkered deck tbh

Very simple, very basic, allows me to play into flushes more than pairs, what's not to like

[simple radish]

i guess you could like, stick it to any card and make it heavy, which would idk what it would do for balatro

double the value?

i mean if it's inspired by poker

[manic talon]

Checkered so good fr

[fringe nebula]

i'm also a fan of checkered deck

you can greed so much and prioritize econ while blasting through ante 1 with flushes

[bleak hemlock]

Usaint Bolt

[knotty zodiac]

rip never found idol

[knotty zodiac]

rip, another one gone too early

[fringe nebula]

tried to do some showman shenanigans and died

lol

go next

[gentle basalt]

what's not to like
Other than a slightly easier ante 1 and 2, it mostly does nothing

Flushes and pairs have the same chips per planet, and also (nearly) equivalent jokers (tribe vs duo), and flushes makes it harder to use value generators

[exotic silo]

pairs are probably better even on checkered lmfao

[manic talon]

The +2 mult on flush means photochad is by far the strongest in that deck

[exotic silo]

assuming you get jupiters!

[knotty zodiac]

slight synergy with wrathful and lusty, what else specifically for pair builds?

[gentle basalt]

checkered was my first gold stake deck, but it took me the most tries (ok i guess I got experience later on but still...)
forcing flushes on gold stake checkered (while being inexperienced) is a nice way to lose

[gentle basalt]

being able to hold more gold cards, blue seals, etc in hand

[tacit stream]

photochad won't work well with any hand if you don't have good base mult.

[fickle mesa]

plasma

[knotty zodiac]

i mean specifically for pair builds on checkered that you cant do on other decks

[gentle basalt]

also the flush is not guaranteed either, the 4-4 split happens way more often than it might seem

[gentle basalt]

i think its just that pair builds are strong

[fickle mesa]

photochad does the scaling for you on a deck where the scaling is at its most difficult

[manic talon]

The planet situation doesnt change on other decks, except nebula (but it has its own problems) so assume you get planets is a constant on every deck anyway

[exotic silo]

not really anything specific for pairs, but checkered sure does not hinder pairs at all

[manic talon]

Not really, you'd still need to assemble the photochad hand on plasma while checkered juat gives it to you

[knotty zodiac]

oh i read your original comment wrong

[exotic silo]

pretty important placement on two words yeah

[manic talon]

I almost always play flush on checkered and i do pretty well if i say so myself

[tacit stream]

I mean my gold stake on checkered was HC slop lol. (that was old gold stake with -1 hand size though)

[lunar zealot]

tbf vayn there's something wrong with you

[unreal topaz]

this was fun

rebate+tarot tycoon

[exotic silo]

pretty sure my gold stake win on checkered had Shortcut that allowed a straight flush build

that was fun, still had to thin out the deck some and gain hands and discards to guarantee a S. Flush and Seance did not show up though

[manic talon]

Oh god yea that was ass

[manic talon]

I mean assuming all you do on other decks is playing pairslop, youll be more comfortable doing pairslop on checkered as well

But going for flush is pretty damn good

[gentle basalt]

i dont force myself to play pair slop, but there are too many game pieces that support it

[exotic silo]

I do not want to imagine black deck on old gold stake

[unreal topaz]

it's situational, but most of the time pairs let me be way greedier

i'll do flushes if i get stuff that supports it but usually i get stuff that supports pairs

[manic talon]

It was ass, especially with old orange stake kneecapping your econ even harder

[tacit stream]

I tend to have more pairslop runs now but will happily run higher hands when the builds roll in.
My most recent run was Abandoned Gold, got a Round 1 Eternal RtB which looked like pairslop run, ends up getting Saturn and ran Straights instead.
Run won by basically RtB + Madness + Straight scaling. (and a blueseal from Certificate)

[gentle basalt]

Like what are you supposed to do when you get eternal space, bp and madness

[ebon condor]

win, probably

[gentle basalt]

(early)Madness and obelisk, 2 nearly free win jokers

[exotic silo]

imagine if verdant leaf actually forced you to sell madness(it doesn't in most circumstances involving Madness, but it is a funny thought)

[gentle basalt]

i did take a joker to sell (in case i drew my steel card for extra 1.5x, but i didnt draw anyways)

[short snow]

we(e) are gaming (i lost on ante 12)

[knotty zodiac]

debuff all jokers until one joker is sold 🙃

[manic talon]

Verdant leaf but the jokers are debuffed until you sell one

[earnest goblet]

lol

[exotic silo]

Verdant Leaf but you are not allowed to score until you sell a joker

[short snow]

vrdant leaf but you are not allowed to score.

[fringe nebula]

verdant leaf but one of your jokers is randomly debuffed

[exotic silo]

you are not allowed to score.

[knotty zodiac]

thats called violent vessel

[manic talon]

Psychic if youre stupid

[wet jackal]

Probably but even then it allows some more amount of variety than just having 50 pair builds in a row

[slow iris]

All jokers debuffed until one playing card sold

[exotic silo]

The Eye and The Mouth too, I guess

[manic talon]

The first hand is free game

[exotic silo]

oh yeah 😭😭

[gentle basalt]

abandoned allows for the most variety i think
also its definitely possible to have variety in the endgame (when you have actually deckfixed)

[manic talon]

Trading card supremacy

[knotty zodiac]

yall legit could force pairs 50 in a row? if theres no +chip or planets i usually give up by ante 3

[short snow]

the needle but first hand gives 0 score

[exotic silo]

is it a supremacy if it's debuffed?

[manic talon]

Its the meta sadly

[unreal topaz]

i'd say zodiac allows for the most variety, abandoned does a similar thing but more tarot cards also get you access to stuff like glass and steel to make higher ranking hands more worth

[manic talon]

Just have chicot 🧠

[knotty zodiac]

well yes i understand that its good. just didnt know that you could survive early playing pairs essentially 100% of runs. sometimes the pieces just dont show up

[gentle basalt]

hmm, personally the 40 cards help more, but sure zodiac is also one of them

[exotic silo]

completely break the rule of Balatro and have a debuffed Chicot somehow

[gentle basalt]

just didnt know that you could survive early playing pairs essentially 100% of runs
no, you can't
early game can be hard

[unreal topaz]

i find on zodiac bc its easier to make copies of stuff like seals or gold cards its easier to get the resources to make the higher ranking hands worth

[manic talon]

Erratic has the most variety if you just hold R, theoretically

[unreal topaz]

on abandoned all value generators are better but you have easier access to them on zodiac

[pure crow]

Checkered deck, what should I duplicate with invisible joker? Polychrome wee joker, or ancient joker?

[wet jackal]

Honestly I'm fine with pairs being that easy to abuse, I think having a super consistent option you can force is good

But the other hands should be just as good and easy to force. Pairs are just fundamentally better.

At the very least, it's not an incredibly unfun meta, just a tad bit boring because pairs are that much better so the variety, something roguelikes thrive off, is neutered.

[unreal topaz]

also the money you earn goes toward more tarot cards than on abandoned

[exotic silo]

nah, the meta is pivoting to pairs eventually, early game is whatever works at the time

[wet jackal]

You don't abuse pairs at the start.

[manic talon]

Dont copy ancient joker it would only work half the time

[unreal topaz]

like on abandoned just bc you can play a 5 card hand consistently it doesnt mean it gives you that much of a reward

[knotty zodiac]

sure. just saying at least 20% of runs, i couldnt eventually play pairs unless i wanted to lower my winrate

[unreal topaz]

zodiac lets me "cash in" on playing stuff like 4oak easier

[knotty zodiac]

sometimes three saturns and no +chip happens

[pure crow]

Dang I never use ancient so I didn't actually know it ignores what suits you actually own

[manic talon]

HATES flushes so much he doesnt want the hand to be good frfr

[exotic silo]

yeah it's most likely not 100%, that would just mean Balatro Gold Stake has absolutely no variety, which is just false

but more like 40-50% of the runs comfortably end on pairs while another 20% can theoretically end on pairs but there are more options available that also win, that's how pairs become meta

[slow iris]

i can pivot out of pairs sometimes

[shell dagger]

it’s like 80+% comfortably ending on pairs tbh

[wet jackal]

I wonder if having the option to continue using your remaining hands after finishing a blind would make the other hands a tad more desirable

Problem is having to purposefully not win the blind in order to cycle to other cards and/or abuse jokers adds so much depth to the game.

[manic talon]

Its called green deck and its miserable to play

[gentle basalt]

what, no

[slow iris]

i think they mean like

[gentle basalt]

they want to be able to scale jokers

[slow iris]

after the round ends you can have the option to play your remaining hands

[latent egret]

ancient is useless 50% of rounds here

[slow iris]

before going to the next shop

[tacit stream]

inb4 they uncheckers the deck.

[exotic silo]

even if it wasn't checkered deck, two polychrome wees are busted

[wet jackal]

Exactly

Would ensure that other larger hands could get more hands at the end of the round and as such they'd be able to abuse the blinds far more safely

Meanwhile pairs would use more hands per blind and couldn't abuse the mechanic as easily

[exotic silo]

would buff the hand scalers pretty nicely ngl, especially Supernova and Obelisk

but not much else

[lunar zealot]

put that option on a joker

[slow iris]

i'm pretty sure there's already a mod that adds this mechanic

[knotty zodiac]

new blue stake: remove mercury, pluto. everyone knows pluto is not a planet anyways xD

[manic talon]

Supernova or obelisk doesnt need a buff ngl

[fringe nebula]

always have backup plan instead of fully commiting into triboulet

[slow iris]

not entirely sure how i'd feel about it being in vanilla though

[wet jackal]

That is true so maybe it would just make pairs even better, seeing as supernova is such a good joker for pairs. Damn that sucks

Why does everything fundamentally just favor pairs.

[rancid gull]

Who said that supernova or obelisk need a buff lol

[exotic silo]

Pluto is labeled as Dwarf Planet

[knotty zodiac]

im just saying planet x is a real planet and pluto is not!

[manic talon]

The answer is to nerf pairs but yall just arent ready for that conversation

[weary depot]

i clearly didn't listen

[rancid gull]

How would you nerf pairs

[exotic silo]

have it start at 1 mult like High Card, take that, Pair!

(ok tbf that WOULD cut its score in half without any addition to Mult)

[rancid gull]

I’m willing to hear you out

[wet jackal]

I mean, honestly I'd be more down for slightly nerfing pairs and buffing the shit out of the other hands.

Without pairs gold stake runs would be a lot more of an rng pain in the ass, there has to be a compensation buff to the other hands.

[earnest goblet]

dude my luck 😭

[rancid gull]

That just nerfs the bottom end without addressing its problems

[slow iris]

the blue stake rework should be a good start

[latent egret]

riff raff top 10 jokers you can get first round

maybe even top 5

[slow iris]

we'll be getting that discard back

for sure

[rancid gull]

Blue stake is good yeah

[exotic silo]

the real question is whether or not we nerf pairs or buff the others

[manic talon]

Nerfing the pair jokers and the planet scaling for starters

[rancid gull]

I’m p sure bala uni pitched buff g planet scaling on the higher hands

[wet jackal]

Fair point, pairs were already busted before blue stake but blue stake really cemented their spot as the definitive best hand in the game

[tacit stream]

The Flint, The Arm: 😋

[rancid gull]

Supernova and runner:

[manic talon]

I mean, it would help against the flint still, the arm would get stronger tho

[exotic silo]

would nerfing Blue Seals impact Pairs more than others?

[rancid gull]

Yes

That would be good

[manic talon]

Not really, but it depends on how its nerfed

[knotty zodiac]

nerfing blue seals probably makes flush completely unplayable?

[manic talon]

The good planet hands would just die if blue seals are havung a flat nerf, 3oak 4oak and straights

[rancid gull]

Well if you buffed the chip& mult scaling on those planets

It might just level out

[manic talon]

That would make the variance of getting and not getting a planet even higher

[tacit stream]

time to take burnt joker for that 4oak run I wanted...

[exotic silo]

maybe changing how blue seals trigger is the way to nerf it

[vocal rose]

they’re inherently nerfed by having less hand size to dig for deck value

it’s a weird situation

[manic talon]

Like the difference between lv 1 straight vs a lv 2 straight problem but exponentially worse

Playing a lv 1 straight is the most miserable thing ever

But a lv 2 straight is so good in comparison

[knotty zodiac]

hm what if blue seals trigger when scored?

[shell dagger]

too good in 5 card hands then

[knotty zodiac]

would probably have to nerf the multiples on 5card hands

[exotic silo]

2 consumable slots most of the time means pairs are still just as good as before

[wet jackal]

What if blue stake was replaced with something like "Shops can have rotten jokers (at the end of round, randomly remove 1 enhancement, edition, or seal held in hand or played)

Would far more negatively effect lower planet hands like pairs and such seeing as they rely on those a significant amount more than the other hands.

[shell dagger]

5 card hands rely on enhancements and editions more than pairs do

[knotty zodiac]

sure, still improves larger hands. which i think is an ok outcome

[fringe nebula]

certificate and wily

[wet jackal]

Maybe just seals then? Fuck idk

[rancid gull]

Okay lemme bounce this one, blue stake makes vouchers cost 12 bucks

[manic talon]

No that would do the opposite, the bigger hands have a better capability of using enhancements and editions

[exotic silo]

Not really, most of the time, you'd need to get Crystal Ball to really start seeing more planets than Pairs

even then, easy access to scoring retriggers could just mean three Mercury cards anyways

[manic talon]

I mean this is okay but doesnt change the meta much if you dont change anything else

The +1 discard is nice but not gonna be enough

[wet jackal]

"Shops can have rotten jokers (at the end of the boss blind, remove 1 random seal from within your deck)"

[fringe nebula]

ok that is not fun

[fringe nebula]

and too punishing

[shell dagger]

the best ideas I’ve seen imo are “blue seals need showman to spawn dupes” and “blue seals are perishable”

[manic talon]

Removing seals is just plain bad for every hand, no hand is worse or better off from it

[knotty zodiac]

what would happen if you death a sealed card?

[fringe nebula]

triboulet splash is lowk a banger

[shell dagger]

reset the counter

[rancid gull]

Oh trib

I love you

[rugged bloom]

Why do we need to nerf blue seals

[shell dagger]

too op

[fringe nebula]

because blue seals is very powerful

[rugged bloom]

Is it?

[wet jackal]

Far too good

[manic talon]

Look at what they have to do to mimic a fraction of flush with 4 trib faces power

[rancid gull]

Blue seals with a mime can carry

[rugged bloom]

I like them how they are

[shell dagger]

the best chips scaling joker and it doesn’t take up a joker slot

[rugged bloom]

In fact, why don't we double down?

Make them generate only negative planets

[rancid gull]

What does that mean lol

[exotic silo]

imagine if blue seals are more like purple seals and spawn a random planet card when discarded

[earnest goblet]

HOLY WHAT

[rugged bloom]

Introduce azure seals into base Balatro/j

[shell dagger]

they were similar to that before 1.0.1 and they were ass

[rancid gull]

I do not like that

[manic talon]

Slightly better old blue seal

Just barely

[knotty zodiac]

theyd be close to worthless. thats close to how they used to work

[rugged bloom]

I don't want blue seals to be nerfed

3 planets max isn't a lot

[gentle basalt]

It is when you can choose the planet

[exotic silo]

I guess the problem is that planets are either powerful or absolutely useless unlike tarots

[shell dagger]

purple seals can get away with random tarots bc there are usually many that are useful at any one time, also they cause a feedback loop (tarots make more purples, purples make more tarots)

[wet jackal]

What's fucked is that I was about to build off of that idea and say that instead of being random, it spawns whatever hand you discarded

But again, pairs

[rugged bloom]

What do you suggest to nerf them then?

Without making them dogshit?

The showman for dupes?

[manic talon]

Theres like at most 2 to 3 planets that actually do anything at a given run

[exotic silo]

oh god, Burnt Joker but better 😭

[gentle basalt]

Each blue seal has p probability of generating the planet instead of p = 1

[slow iris]

i think blue seals are still powerful even with 1 maximum consumable slot

[rugged bloom]

No

[vocal rose]

most likely an entire rework that shifts it from planets to something else

I’m gonna be completely honest

[fringe nebula]

discarded blue seal gives (most played hand) planet

nvm that is too powerful

[rancid gull]

What if blue seals took a spaceman approach? Played hand had a 1/2 chance to level up with blue seal?

[manic talon]

This is even more pairslop

[shell dagger]

decent power nerf but it just feels bad yknow

[vocal rose]

this nerfs all hands and promotes pairs even more

[rugged bloom]

Eh, I don't really want blue seals to be nerfed

[manic talon]

People have been saying this but its just not good design

[vocal rose]

since you can hold more blue seals with pair playing

[rugged bloom]

I like them how they are right now

[knotty zodiac]

mm ya somewhere between 1/2 and 1/4 maybe

[vocal rose]

they’re too strong

[manic talon]

6/7 chance

[rugged bloom]

Maximum 3 planets per round

[rugged bloom]

Okay I support that

[manic talon]

We already have max 3 planets per round

[knotty zodiac]

the difference between my runs where i lowroll on blue seals and other runs is insane

[gentle basalt]

Dude thats really strong
Jokerless can be won just off blue seals, thats how strong they are

[exotic silo]

remove the blue seals upon triggering 😈

[rancid gull]

Well, I’m pitching this off the principle that planet scaling will be buffed

[rugged bloom]

I'm saying that's what it does

It's not that strong

[vocal rose]

I think blue seals need an entire rework that changes it off of planets to an entire different source of value

[rancid gull]

So if you play a higher ranking hand

[rugged bloom]

Isn't that the point

[knotty zodiac]

maybe 1 in 6 chance just like gros

[rancid gull]

The it would level and scale real quick

[shell dagger]

2 planet cards a round is already better scaling than square by almost double

[gentle basalt]

No? It makes runs way too dependent on "did you find blue seal"

[gentle basalt]

More than double* with square its not always easy to use all your hands

[rancid gull]

High card and pair scaling stays the same

[wet jackal]

Pairs and high card become the only planets to give 0.5 mult

Boom totally fixed the problem, that will 100% fix everything :clueless:

[rugged bloom]

Okay to be fair I haven't played jokerless yet

[manic talon]

I think 9 dollars worth of planets and its the planet you want is extremely strong

[rugged bloom]

So I can't comment on that

[rugged bloom]

Planets are $3?

[rancid gull]

Yes

In the shop

[manic talon]

I remember old jokerless when the crux is to find telescope instead

[knotty zodiac]

oh

[exotic silo]

remove the concept of hand levels entirely and try something different 😈

[gentle basalt]

Each planet is valued at like 12$ btw (4$ celestial has 1 / 3 chance of being useful)

[knotty zodiac]

what if blue seal gives random planet unless you have telescope

[rugged bloom]

That math seems a bit off to me

[knotty zodiac]

hm prob not fun

[gentle basalt]

I would pay 12$ for a planet of my hand definitely

[rancid gull]

Me getting straight flush on my full house build lol

[calm moth]

Anyone have the strategy for blue ghost? Its my first blue and im open to all tips

[shell dagger]

small planet packs are 5/9 if you block

[rugged bloom]

One sec I'll have to calculate the odds of a planet being in a celestial pack

One second

[rancid gull]

Try to find a good scaling card, (ride the bus, supernova, and green joker)

Hex it

It’s pretty decent

[shell dagger]

those odds are correct, there are 9 planets usually

[rancid gull]

And have some chips scaling

[wet jackal]

Blue seals give black hole when discarded

Boom, no more pairslop, this is clearly a genius idea that totally won't make every run free

[exotic silo]

maybe we could nerf the rarity of blue seals, like reworking trance and standard packs

[manic talon]

Just hex the first remotely good joker you find and youll be okay

[rancid gull]

True

[fringe nebula]

you have -1 discard, which means doing straight/full house/4oak build will be harder to do

[manic talon]

Being greedy and Holding hex is just not it

[exotic silo]

perhaps sealed cards should NOT be in standard packs unless you have Illusion

[gentle basalt]

True but for some reason i always forget to do that (not punished since celestial packs too weak anyways)

[rancid gull]

That would require buying two vouchers

And that is requiring a lot of luv

Luck

[vagrant wagon]

First pack of the run 😅

[shell dagger]

actually it’s 3/7 nvm

close enough

[manic talon]

Standard packs becomes worthless in 1 update

[gentle basalt]

You can get 3 / 6 if you block another in shop

[rancid gull]

Also buying magic trick and illusion nerfs your shops

Unless hologram

[gentle basalt]

Speculative hologram

[knotty zodiac]

magic trick needs a rework

[rugged bloom]

Okay so

[knotty zodiac]

worst voucher in the game

[manic talon]

Ngl if magic trick can give you seals editions and enhancement at the first tier, i would actually consider taking it raw without hologram

[vocal rose]

this run is juicy asf so far

[rugged bloom]

The odds of a planet being in a celestial pack when you have all 12 planets, and no telescope and no blocking is 1 in 4

[vocal rose]

you would consider WHAT

[rugged bloom]

The math is correct

[manic talon]

Taking it Without hologram

[rugged bloom]

What would Illusion give?

[gentle basalt]

Seals is a bit too powerful at tier 1 (btw seals dont work with tier 2 either currently)

[fringe nebula]

taking it raw

[wet jackal]

Instead of nerfing blue seals, simply buff the shit out of every other seal up to the power of blues

Now red seals activate twice, gold cards give 5 dollars, and medium can be applied to 2 cards at once

Boom, ez, very good balancing idea

[vocal rose]

editions

[knotty zodiac]

maybe more frequency like planet/tarot tycoon

[rugged bloom]

That'd just be bad wouldn't it?

[vocal rose]

oh he said editions already

[manic talon]

Idk man just up the % chance the tier 2 voucher is okay to be mostly ass

[exotic silo]

they could just improve standard packs and it'd be powerful

like Magic Trick could give us 1 more card in standard packs(4 instead of 3 or 7 instead of 6 in Jumbo/Mega packs)

and then Illusion boosts the seals and enhancements and editions of these cards

[wet jackal]

(The worst part is they'd still not be as good as blue seals)

[manic talon]

Like planet/tarot tycoon

[gentle basalt]

X8 glass card

[knotty zodiac]

yep that would be solid. or 1 guaranteed not-naked card per pack or something like that

[rancid gull]

I think magic trick should let you see more options in arcana and planet packs too

That would be fun

[rugged bloom]

Not in the early game definitely

[rancid gull]

I would take magic trick a lot

[exotic silo]

ay that works

[gentle basalt]

Yes obviously

But everytime you open a celestial pack with being locked into one hand type

Thats the tradeoff you are making

[rugged bloom]

Magic trick allows you to see the soul in the shop

[rancid gull]

Magic trick: Adds 1 additional option in each pack
Illuson: Adds 1 more additional option

[exotic silo]

just not Spectral Packs, because those are powerful already and has less options by design

wtf

[gentle basalt]

(Or 8$ per planet if you block planets optimally)

[vocal rose]

bruh

[rancid gull]

Fair, good distinction

Wait then

[vocal rose]

HOLY BORING SLOP RUN

[rancid gull]

Illusion: adds one more to normal packs, adds one option to spectrals

So normals get two extra

[wet jackal]

What if magic trick acted similarly to overstock, adding an extra card to the shop, but that card was a playing card that could spawn with seals, enhancements, and editions

And illusion guaranteed that the card had a seal, enhancement, and edition

[rancid gull]

Spectrals get one extra with the upgraded voucher

[knotty zodiac]

blue seal in the standard pack. add 1 to streak. next xD

[vocal rose]

I already have one

[wet jackal]

Keeps the identity of current magic trick (having playing cards spawn in a shop) while making it not as garbage

[icy hollow]

3/14 🙏

[rugged bloom]

I hate gambling

[icy hollow]

😎 it hit brainstorm

[vocal rose]

easiest black deck run ever

[knotty zodiac]

all praise riff raff

oh no riff raff

just all the shop pickups

[exotic silo]

Omen Globe + this Illusion and then open mega arcana packs with 8 cards that could be spectrals or tarots, sounds real fun

[vocal rose]

yep

[rugged bloom]

We just making cryptid now

🙏

What if Illusion allowed Spectrals to show up in the shop and we scrapped the Ghost Deck

Are we onto something?

Or just on something.

[exotic silo]

nah 😭

oh well, it's probably not the greatest idea to have Magic Trick or Illusion affect stuff other than playing cards

[rugged bloom]

Illusion us bugged right now

It doesn't show up with seals right now

[wet jackal]

How is magic trick/illusion even worse than I originally thought

[vocal rose]

ok

[rugged bloom]

It calls to me like Loki's mask

[wet jackal]

Legitimately the only reason one would ever pick up magic trick is to hopefully get illusion and pick up some blue and purple seals

And that doesn't even exist?

Cringe

[vocal rose]

pair slop ah run 😭

[shell dagger]

don’t use fandom, use the better wiki

[royal bobcat]

please use the balatro wiki.gg

[royal bobcat]

babe wake up, it's time for your pair slop again

[vocal rose]

rebate

100% rebate

[manic talon]

if you copy shortcut with throwback you get to make pairs with 1 gap, twice

[dawn gulch]

That's how i actually lost the run

[frozen cairn]

i got this game at midnight its now 5am but i finally got my first win

[icy hollow]

ay. nat negative chad now too

9 nat negatives this run so far

10* had to sell one of them

but 2nd run in a row with no voucher skip :D and no antimatter :D

i love attempting naneinf :D

low key might need the dna to survive

but getting back another copy joker will be annoying af... 🤔

[humble dune]

Im doing rich get richer. I've always wanted to do a double chicot glitch in a regular run and I finally can! But I think fate is telling me to get the brainstorm (im also doing a lucky kings build) do i sell a chicot?

[manic talon]

THEYRE FORCING MY ASS TO PAIRSLOP

i hate it here

[dawn gulch]

Does Blueprint/Brainstorm able to copy Chicot?

[icy hollow]

no

[dawn gulch]

For the funny

[humble dune]

Unfortunately no

[fringe nebula]

no

iirc bp copy luchador?

i forgot

[wet jackal]

Congrats man

Don't feel bad that it took you a while to beat your 1st run, it took me quite a bit too.

The game is a lot harder than one would think

[dawn gulch]

It can

[icy hollow]

damn. imight be dead even with dna soon

[wet jackal]

Go on, succumb to the pairslop

You know you want the free win

[fringe nebula]

reject pairslop

become high card player

[shell dagger]

im card player, but im not high

[wet jackal]

Honestly high card is hella based, I ain't gonna deny it

[manic talon]

OH MY GOD BRUH

[wet jackal]

Your only chance of escaping the pairslop now is finding some spare trousers to then go into two pairslop

[fringe nebula]

now you just need to somehow reach $25 interest

[rugged bloom]

Why

[wet jackal]

Fandom can be modified by anyone at any time with, unlike wikipedia, very little moderation. It's not a trustworthy source.

Also there's a bajillion ads

[rugged bloom]

Okay

[wet jackal]

Also it looks worse than wiki.gg

Basically, wiki.gg is the objectively better site and it only shows up lower than fandom because of how much more money fandom pays google

[frozen cairn]

Yeah i had a couple blunders like accidentally selling tarot cards instead of using them 😭

[icy hollow]

Rip.

e61 my top end for now so i gotta waste my double tags atp

and skip for serpent

and hope ante 24 has antimatter 😭

[frozen cairn]

Bro how is your chips in scientific notation 😭😭😭

[sharp plank]

pray to localthunk

[frozen cairn]

Yeah ive barely scratched the surface of this game

[icy hollow]

my last plasma run yesterday also died ante 24 to lack of antimatter