🕹・game-discussion

[mystic pollen]

No

[light brook]

no keep buying planets for constellation though

[calm furnace]

sell chad

[mystic pollen]

If you have someone to create taro cards with no problem and easy, campfire will be better

[strange compass]

That's what I was thinking of. Sell chad and sell some jokers or tarots for campfire

[strange compass]

I don't have tarot generation

[calm furnace]

or sell runner because it has bad synergy with supernova

[strange compass]

It's at 105 chips

[mystic pollen]

Why?

[strange compass]

And I am playing pairs

[mystic pollen]

Oh

It will be good if you are played straight

[calm furnace]

oh fair enough

whats your mercury level tho?

been ages i done a straight build without cheating (shortcut)

[mystic pollen]

Unluck or its me just bad?

[placid haven]

Average straight flush build 😎

[calm furnace]

hmm runner is like 2x there

but with more mercury levels it will become useless

did you face the eye?

[strange compass]

I don't remember

[strange compass]

But even against the eye, I don't think Ill have enough base mult

[mystic pollen]

Damn i have work to do, but i play balatro and text here

[dawn scarab]

good build?

[calm furnace]

no

[mystic pollen]

Why there is no nigative jojers?

[dawn scarab]

cuz i got this setup on ante 6

perkeo was on ante 2

[mystic pollen]

Good

No ecto card?

Ahahahahahha

[dawn scarab]

no

[mystic pollen]

And megamind pic

[narrow scroll]

what's your deck like

[mystic pollen]

No ecto card?

[dawn scarab]

u mf

better setup i guess

[calm shore]

can someone help me pls idk what to do, i have lvl 10 two pair and paint brush voucher (to counter stuntman), not much deck fixing

[copper scaffold]

sos alto gil bro

[dawn scarab]

sell egg

take brainstorm

[sullen aspen]

finally bruh

[calm shore]

idkk egg at $50 for my swashbuckler

[dawn scarab]

copy photo with brainstorm ez win

[calm shore]

aight

[plain nimbus]

Wait sell stuntman no?

[sullen aspen]

sell stuntman

[plain nimbus]

Wait im stoopid

[sullen aspen]

u scale good enough chips wise

just copy photochad anyways

[plain nimbus]

Photochad proc before swash

So the mult from swash would have less impact

[sullen aspen]

temp value

stuntman is useless

[plain nimbus]

Prolly depends if he wants to do a deep run or just win

[calm shore]

just win

alr ty

[sullen aspen]

dossnt matter either way

stuntman is useless for him

cause he can just copy photochad

[turbid blade]

did it

my last joker was the stone joker but I didn't get the achievement unlock so I did another run to actually get the achievement

[plain nimbus]

Gg

[calm shore]

me too thx

[strange compass]

It's not even funny how hard that negative riff raff carried me

[copper scaffold]

ts stuff in espain???

[proven ember]

Hmm

[fringe nebula]

chat would you sell hex and open mega buffoon pack

i would ngl

[vestal copper]

sell hex and get poly splash 🔥

[calm furnace]

game just wants me to never lose

[vestal copper]

unironically

[fringe nebula]

ok this game

[calm furnace]

7 win streak lets go

[dawn scarab]

mine was 6 idk when i got it tho

[haughty carbon]

Obelisk

[calm furnace]

game caps me at 7

i have 7 with blue yellow checkered painted and ghost

tho this time i wasnt even paying attention

usually when i do gs streaks i play them same day

[alpine socket]

Hi photochads

[calm furnace]

this 7 wn streak happened over the last 3 days

something is up with my stomach and im pooping a lot therefor im playing more balatro 😩

[alpine socket]

Obelisk is skill

[dawn scarab]

https://giphy.com/gifs/reaction-crazy-silly-sGxqnYtFE8Bbx8ghAV

[sudden granite]

What’s the easiest deck to finish all stakes on

[devout reef]

Blue or yellow

[sudden granite]

Ok thanks

[devout reef]

Maybe zodiac if you like shopping

[dawn scarab]

black

[alpine socket]

abandoned

[sudden granite]

Okay I’ll take a look at each thanks for the help

[calm furnace]

yellow

yellow so easy if you play a lot of it you become bad at the game

[alpine socket]

Yellow is trash

[calm furnace]

i had a few days of playing yellow and after that i struggled to win 2 in a row with ghost

[dawn scarab]

https://giphy.com/gifs/emoji-skills-your-skill-NqbCjJSTONiHhYbil7

[wintry valley]

is that worth it guys

i'm so bad at math

[calm furnace]

no

[calm furnace]

idk i got another 7 win streak after i shaked off the yellow bad habits

dont see skill issues there

yellow allows for things not possible in any other deck

[alpine socket]

Are we serious right now

[near marlin]

if you take it you lose 7x

[calm furnace]

uhm

4*4 = x16

[wintry valley]

WHAT

[calm furnace]

2 * 3 * 3 = x18

technichally taking tribe is better

but x16 is plenty and if one wants to sacrafice a joker slot its better used on something else

like a potential blueprint/brainstorm

or a retrigger for ancient

[alpine socket]

But they can use it now and sell it later

[calm furnace]

yeah i guess

and block for rare

doesnt matter

[wintry valley]

is that a good one-

[calm furnace]

yeah

one of the better ones even

[wintry valley]

omg

[stone shell]

only marginally better than tribe but should be fine

[calm furnace]

if you consider score only

but chad is not for score

wild cards, gold seals etc.....

[dawn scarab]

finally im not broke

[stone shell]

nah rerolls are still too expensive

[alpine socket]

Take it

[mighty hare]

Do I replace anything for Mime

[calm furnace]

why do you jokers have seals wtf

[mighty hare]

^

[mighty hare]

Mod

[wintry valley]

YIPPEE

oof the pic didn't load

[alpine socket]

RED CARD IS A SIN

[mighty hare]

but earns $3 when triggered

[mighty hare]

so I replace red card

[alpine socket]

It probably won't be that much better

[spark canyon]

i'm so cooked

[alpine socket]

It's not a good build for a mime

[alpine socket]

Not really

Sell the fifth joker

I forgot its name

[dawn scarab]

is this good build for mime?

[spark canyon]

(didnt need to sell anything)

[calm furnace]

??

[alpine socket]

Maybe

[alpine socket]

What

[dawn scarab]

i should probably sell baron and perkeo

[calm furnace]

what sin did red card do

[alpine socket]

Existing

[calm furnace]

best flat mult joker is bad now?

[alpine socket]

Ceremonial dagger is better

Or supernova

[dawn scarab]

pog

[calm furnace]

are you saving up to buy a house or what

[dawn scarab]

no

[fringe nebula]

pardun?

[molten thicket]

who buying a house with 1800 dollars

[alpine socket]

spiteful people

[calm furnace]

dont engage its

[calm furnace]

idk

[autumn hemlock]

Bro is Chippin' In

[hard mantle]

hey guys have you ever heard of balatro

[fringe nebula]

no

i only know balala joker poker

[autumn hemlock]

What is that

[fringe nebula]

why is that

[hard mantle]

its this really niche game about clown yuri and gambling i think

[proven ember]

Money printer

[potent tree]

ante 2 eternal ticket...

[manic talon]

this is just bloodstone if you really think about it

[dawn scarab]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

GG I GUESS

[molten thicket]

just bribe the boss blind with your money

[serene forge]

I hate Baron

[dawn scarab]

hey dont talk shit about my boy baron

[alpine socket]

Baron is literally the most specific of specifics

[vestal copper]

holy fucking riff raff

[median summit]

What's the green stuff meant to be on Retcon?

[alpine socket]

I pick blue joker over it

[molten thicket]

"here, win"

[serene forge]

gg

[vestal copper]

actually

[alpine socket]

Cubs

[rotund igloo]

Now this is balatro

[vestal copper]

riff raff is unironically broken

[rotund igloo]

Its so good

Like even if you get crap you can sell the jokers for money

[median summit]

wat

[dawn scarab]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[alpine socket]

Skill issue

[alpine socket]

Lubs

[dawn scarab]

i spend it all in shop

nice

[autumn hemlock]

That explains

It better be worth all that money

[mighty hare]

What Joker should I convert into another?

[alpine socket]

That's so cursed

[desert quiver]

Why do the jokers have stamps on them?

[manic talon]

another one of those last shop dice bloodstone run huh

dont even need it

[ancient gyro]

#⚙・modding-general

[alpine socket]

Bloodstone is mid

[ancient gyro]

just in case your streak was at risk

[alpine socket]

Imagine needing another joker just to be good

[manic talon]

I LOVE BLOODSTONE GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[ancient gyro]

oh

[manic talon]

i'm at a 2 streak, coming from a loss at 13, cant for the life of me go hit 20 this month

[ancient gyro]

warm up run

hitting 20 this month

id be lucky to even hit 20 games this month for all the irl business that's taking my time

[tawdry rock]

never understood why his face is at a weird side profile view

[dawn scarab]

no my icecream will melt soon

[tawdry rock]

or what this represents

[manic talon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JK_oMS0mqk its this thing

[tawdry rock]

What the

[potent tree]

pablo backwards

kanye west the life of pablo??

[manic talon]

i believe

[ancient gyro]

like my last run I finished a couple days ago started near the first week of this month

[brazen pebble]

How is this start?

Start lol

[errant pewter]

I have lost so many games to the mouth when I have DNA and not checking first

[dawn scarab]

YESSSSSS AFTER 8 HOURS GAME GAVE ME THIS VOUCHER FUCK YEAH

XD nice troll

[tawdry rock]

i would sell everything here and pop the soul for the sell value and then find a jimbo 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

run saver

[twin lantern]

Chat im back

Glaze me

[ancient gyro]

welcome back

[stone shell]

no vagabond, you dont deserve glaze

[twin lantern]

Yes I do

Youre a showman fan it shows what you like

[safe flower]

Please god anything but head

Flint, thank god

[twin lantern]

$100

Why do u have $100

Money not spent est money wasted

[safe flower]

I just played 5 red seal lucky kings with double oops

That was made during the round

Bloodstone gold stake that wasn't actually terrible! Yippie

[broken notch]

I need a bit of help? So, I'm on my way for completion+. I already have gold stakes on red, blue, yellow, green, ghost, abandoned, and checkered decks.

The remaining decks, as far as I can see, are kinda obvious on how to play them, but im saying just to confirm i'm not an idiot:

• Nebula deck: Planet scaling moment. Hopefully get constellation.
• Painted deck: Straight scaling moment, as far as I can tell.
• Anaglyph deck: Maybe cash in on some money tags, but this is kinda the c++ deck with the negative tag. Bit of a no buffs no detriments deck tbh. Feels more vanilla than blue.
• Erratic deck: Work with a basicallky kinda dexfixed deck to build something (and press R if it's crap lol)
• Plasma deck: Invest in a lot chips, instead of just one chip joker like usual, but then transition to XMult jokers as the scaling of chips falls off.

My question is... wtf do I do on magic deck??? I have no idea where to use the fools to get the most value out of there. Hermits? Death? Planets? There's so much to use them on that I kinda don't know what the start is. It kinda feels like I always waste the fools and then I play with a base deck.

[ancient gyro]

oh jesus

gimme a few minutes

[broken notch]

I've tried to search on yt or something but all I find is advice for gold stake play, not really advice for the specific decks

[ancient gyro]

magic start can just be consumables that are either econ generators, value generators, or common planet heavy options.

(hermit, temperance, magician, emperors, mercuries, saturns, etc)

[light brook]

man dis sum bullllshiet

this won btw

[broken notch]

Ahhhh the smuggling deck

I mean, the anaglyph deck

[light brook]

hoarder deck

[broken notch]

smuggling because you use the negatives to gold stake the jokers lol

[ancient gyro]

they have the least margin of error when it comes to whiffing their payout value

[broken notch]

I guess so? It just kinda feels underwhelming

After that the deck basically does nothing

[light brook]

the entirety of my score was mercury and the three 4x holograms

[broken notch]

Strong start deck I suppose

So I was wondering if I was missing something

Apparently not

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[broken notch]

Might be my least favourite deck besides black

[ancient gyro]

a permanent consumable slot is very versatile immediately after being given the option to boost your economy out of say ante 2-3 on average

[broken notch]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh

I completely forgot about the in-built crystal ball voucher

[ancient gyro]

consumable blocking is highly underappreciated for what it actually does

6 dollar celestial practically never whiffs

[mortal dock]

Why ....

[broken notch]

Riiight so you can hold onto consumables to block them from the shop queue

I was just doing goldstake with checkered deck and when I went to magic deck next, which I have green stake on, I just completely forgot about that, because I did not notice the 2/3

Okay yeah that makes more sense

[ancient gyro]

with tarot merchant voucher utilized for tarot blocking in shop in addition to upstairs tarots, you're practically locked behind a 40%* approximate frequency rate of hitting your desired tarot

plus its not a cardinal sin that is the concept of nebula

in a roguelike

[broken notch]

You're right, Nebula is one that I am leaving for last because it's just...

It encourages one style of play wayyyyy too hard

[ancient gyro]

and it's also

not fun

[broken notch]

And then on Gold stake where pairs predominate... and mercury is trash

well

[broken notch]

You're right

I knew I was missing something, thanks for revealing to me I just don't know how to read and forgot about the +1 consumable slot 👍

[dawn scarab]

does this work with blue print or brainstorm?

[broken notch]

After so much checkered deck to gold stake it I was like "oh right clubs and diamonds exist in this game"

[robust lance]

Possibly (no)

[ancient gyro]

and i guess one less voucher to think about when you can technically manipulate emperor spawns

[tawdry storm]

Am I good for a semi new player

[ancient gyro]

passive effects (and eor econ) are not copy compatible

[broken notch]

honestly one thing I would like to see in the new patch more than a lot more jokers is make Blueprint/Brainstorm be able to copy more jokers

It just feels so badly designed that

it just doesn't do it

[dawn scarab]

is it better the dna?

[ancient gyro]

they're designed to copy scoring and on activation effects

[ancient gyro]

what

apples to oranges comparison

[dawn scarab]

should i switch him with dna or nah

[broken notch]

Then it should say so on the card. It's not good design to have me go to the wiki to remember which it can copy and which don't

Rn it just says "Copies ability of Joker to the right"

Now it's not as much of an issue, but when I was learning the game it pissed me off to buy a joker to then find it wasn't copyable

Like sure ofc it doesn't copy smeared joker because it's kinda of a no-op

or four fingers

But why the hell doesn't it copy drunkard?

[ancient gyro]

since they're passive effects

[safe flower]

Thank you egg!

[ancient gyro]

ability can be rephrased to non passive effects that isn't trading card or 6th sense 🥀

while also conflicting with some quick time events (which is already a current problem with marble/cert and mime)

[broken notch]

I would not be surprised if that's just removed

[ancient gyro]

pretty sure it will be

or at least swapped if cert ever needs a nerf to incentivize not pairs

[broken notch]

Doing that + something like "Copies the effects of a joker to the right when scoring or discarding" would be good

[dawn scarab]

it takes so long help

[broken notch]

And add sixth sense and trading card as copyable because it makes absolutely no sense those aren't copyable

[ancient gyro]

it makes less sense that 2 trading cards activate but only 1 for sixth with a duplicate

[broken notch]

yeah

[calm furnace]

game wont let me get past 7 win streak

gg

[ancient gyro]

discarding by nature is passive to make the drawback of burglar exist

if both were active effects, then hand size and discard count would be a whole nother ordeal to settle with

[dawn scarab]

who should die?

[ancient gyro]

not that existing problems don't create inconsistency already, they just had far less practical use cases cause they were just random

[broken notch]

...I don't understand what you mean, it already works like that. Mail-In rebate is copyable

I'm not saying blueprint should change in behaviour

[ancient gyro]

I mean like adding discards

[broken notch]

No, that's not what I mean

when discarding

Maybe "all in round effects"

[ancient gyro]

it's an active effect so you can just add active abilities in the description

because it covers more ground for what is already compatible

[calm furnace]

but game tells you what you can copy

the only joker that needs wiki page open is matador

[warped bear]

I wanna sell everything and ecto brainstorm for my naneinf push

[ancient gyro]

in shop, upon hitting next round, select boss blind, upon deck draw, etc

[stark karma]

Someone posted this joker idea on the Balatro subreddit, am I justified in thinking it’s kind of poorly designed?

[ancient gyro]

"copies joker's active ability on the right"

[safe flower]

This run ended up going a lot more than I thought

I just need idol, its fully online

[broken notch]

Yeah exactly

something of the sort

[calm furnace]

huh why

[broken notch]

After you've bought it

[calm furnace]

its strong

[stark karma]

That’s the worry lol

[ancient gyro]

that practically covers all the joker options

[stark karma]

Also it’s another pair enabler

[calm furnace]

and where is the problem with that?

[stark karma]

The problem is it’s x mult that is wayyyy too free

[calm furnace]

its an infinite ramen

[ancient gyro]

the description in parentheses could help for examples like "when selecting blind" or "when opening booster packs"

[calm furnace]

that can potentially be stronger with vouchers

[stark karma]

Well ramen is infinite if you flat out don’t discard

Yup

[ancient gyro]

and score I guess

excluding editions

[calm furnace]

yeah pretty much

[ancient gyro]

personally I have more inconsistent issues with invis but thats for another day

[calm furnace]

cutting board is not a bad joker idea it just doent add much to the game

[stark karma]

Yeah

[broken notch]

To make decisions in the game while having a blueprint or brainstorm I have to do one of these:
a) Memory all the stuff that's compatible
b) intuit it's all active effects except specifically two of them despite the game saying nothing about this
c) looking it up
d) Buy the joker, find out it doesn't copy, savescum

[calm furnace]

for a reddit joker its actully well made

[broken notch]

All of thsoe are bad design

[safe flower]

Ah, ggs

Also got the head lol

[calm furnace]

memorizing is part of any game

[stark karma]

Double dice but no glass joker? Sad

[broken notch]

No it's not

[calm furnace]

by the time you reached gold stake once you should know what and what doesnt work with blueprint

[safe flower]

Fun run

[calm furnace]

yes it is, its part of any game

video game or not

[stark karma]

Some interactions are incredibly obtuse hahaha

[broken notch]

Yes, and I do, and learning that by trial an error andthen having to remember and not forget is bad design

[calm furnace]

matador mostly

[stark karma]

No I’m talking about blueprint

[broken notch]

It does not mean it's a good part of any game and should not be designed away. Minecraft added a recipe book for a reason lmao.

[warped bear]

Welp selling everything and ecto on brainstorm didn’t work sadly but it’s fine

[broken notch]

And fan made wikis exist for a reason, which developers crutch on too much

[stark karma]

Mime switching is something I feel most players will never find on their own

[broken notch]

Hell, the game provides you with a menu that tells you what every edition does, every seal, every everything

Why not this?

[calm furnace]

you want the game to have a menu for 2 jokers?

[broken notch]

No I want the description to be clear

[calm furnace]

its already an bsurdly strong jokerr

[broken notch]

That would be the cleaner solution

[calm furnace]

no one finds blueprint and cries because it didnt work with 6th sense

you gonna buy blueprint already 90% of the time

[broken notch]

No, but I have seen plenty of Balatro early let's plays going "Huhhh it doesn't work with that???"

[calm furnace]

an obtuse and badly designed joker is matador

now good luck finding a human that can name all the boss blinds it works on without opening the wiki

[stark karma]

Honestly Aura is not unjustified

[broken notch]

The fact that there are bigger "you just have to memory this" design problems doesn't mean my point ain't valid

I agree with you on matador and that should get fixed first, but it's a moot point since we know it's getting a rework already

[calm furnace]

"you have to memorize this" applies to all games

lmao

especially competitive games

[ancient gyro]

it's less about memory and more about cohesiveness

[calm furnace]

you have to memorize poker hands to play poker itself

[broken notch]

yep

[calm furnace]

blueprint doesnt work on the two card destroying jokers

[ancient gyro]

since what some jokers description entails is a straight up lie

[stark karma]

This is a lot

[calm furnace]

thats about it

[broken notch]

The problem is not memorising it, it's the problem that you can't do it intuitively

The poker hands are on a menu

With examples

So you can check if you don't know poker

And then you'll eventually remember

[ancient gyro]

well

[calm furnace]

it makes sense why it doesnt work with every single one of them except maybe To the Moon

[broken notch]

There is aboslutely 0 way in-game to quickly check if something is copyable or not

You have to clunkily trial and error

In runs

[stark karma]

Blueprint tells you

[broken notch]

in a rogeulike

[broken notch]

quickly

[ancient gyro]

ttm is an eor cash out which in its category already isn't compatible

[stark karma]

It says compatible or incompatible

[calm furnace]

and?

[broken notch]

I have to get a run with blueprint

[stark karma]

Ah I see

You mean if it’s in the shop

[cloud sinew]

BALATRO

[ancient gyro]

shitposting

[ancient gyro]

terraria

[broken notch]

Or in any way really

[rich mauve]

BA

[stark karma]

There’s some strange inconsistencies

[calm furnace]

like?

[broken notch]

They brought up that you have to memorise the poker hands, and you eventually do to play better. But if you forget, you can go and check. You can't really "go and check" with Blueprint in game

[stark karma]

Blueprint can copy cola but not other sell effect jokers like invis?

[cloud sinew]

the only one that doesnt make sense is invisible joker, considering Luchador and Cola are compatible

[stark karma]

Yup

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[calm furnace]

cola is compatible in what way

[ancient gyro]

being able to sell blueprint

[cloud sinew]

you can sell blueprint to get a double tag

[ancient gyro]

for a double tag

[cloud sinew]

you can sell blueprint to disable the boss blind

but you cant sell blueprint to copy a joker via invis

[molten thicket]

how much storage do these images take up in your pc

[calm furnace]

wait that works? i used to claim that it works as a ragebait turns out my ragebait is real

[stark karma]

Sixth sense not working is a little bizarre too considering blueprint works with consumable creators like hallucination

[molten thicket]

also do you sort them by jokers used or sth

[ancient gyro]

the neat part is that I'm not on my pc

[ancient gyro]

it defaults to most rounds with them

[broken notch]

Where is your "just memorise it" now lmao

[stark karma]

Cook

[calm furnace]

i never tried doing it

not to memorize it

[ancient gyro]

yeah what happened to inconsistent edition timing too while we're at it

[cloud sinew]

holo proccing before the joker vs poly proccing after is interesting for sure

[ancient gyro]

lol

[stark karma]

Honestly knowing and remembering the intricacies of the game is part of the fun to me

It makes me feel like a good player

[ancient gyro]

double it down and apply it to played card yeah why not 🗣️

[rich mauve]

isn't it like better

[cloud sinew]

roguelikes are peak wikislop

[calm furnace]

its a natural part of most games

[stark karma]

Not everything needs to be told to the player flat out

You don’t need to reveal all the cards

Ba dum tss

[calm furnace]

for a rouge game balatro needs way less wiki checking compard to other games

[broken notch]

But all the information should be in the game somewhere

It doesn't have to be all the numbers

[stark karma]

I don’t think all the info needs to be in the game

[calm furnace]

hades has an entire game breaking hidden mechanic with boon tiers that it never tells you about

[stark karma]

As long as the systems are more or less intuitive so you can make a solid framework in your mind

[ancient gyro]

it's like games value a sense of ignorance to capture the fun of games entirely. it doesn't require a whole university course

[stark karma]

That’s why matador is a problem

[rich mauve]

every non-linear game is wikislop imo

[stark karma]

That’s why invis not working is a problem too

[cloud sinew]

I agree so long as it doesn't compromise on the feel of the game.
a decent compromise is having a good wiki, which the community is working towards with balatrowiki.org

[broken notch]

That's what I mean with "In the game". It can be in-directly. Nobody needs to tell you that if you run out cards or your hand size is 0, you lose

it just

makes sense

[rich mauve]

offline games should have an in-game wiki

[rotund igloo]

Im so glad we moved off of fandom. Terrible website

[rich mauve]

because they're offline

[cloud sinew]

4 ads per page making it load 3x slower and be insanely cluttered. thank god we're not on fandom anymore

[stark karma]

• you’re talking about some pretty niche interactions, it’s just hard to please everyone while keeping the simple clean design of the game

[broken notch]

You can literally fix it by tweaking the description of blueprint and brainstorm a bit, like we settled already

[stark karma]

To what?

[cloud sinew]

how would you tweak the description to be consistent there

[calm furnace]

disclaimer: i dont work with 6th sense

[cloud sinew]

it's already pretty clear by showing you what's compatible and what isn't

[calm furnace]

udk

[ancient gyro]

technically you can't without additional joker interaction changes

[broken notch]

Those should happen anyways

[dawn scarab]

how do i beat this?

[stark karma]

And satellite and invis and troubadour and etc….

[rich mauve]

after buying

[broken notch]

"Copies joker while in round effects" or something

[rich mauve]

iirc they were talking about how it doesn't before you buy

[cloud sinew]

that isn't consistent

[broken notch]

Like I said all this already just scroll up before joining a conversation

[stark karma]

Nope!

[broken notch]

Yeah

[stark karma]

Because you can copy jokers in shop too

[ancient gyro]

i just said add active effects in description which still excludes a few jokers 🥀

[calm furnace]

i mean if the game didnt tell you what blueprint copies when you buy it, you have the right to complain

[stark karma]

The thing of it is I think you need to give the game some space to not be incredibly precise and take its word

[rich mauve]

honestly my solution would be so that you can move the bp/bs before buying it and put next to the jokers while holding it to see if they're compatible or not

[stark karma]

You have to be like okay payout jokers can’t be copied

[broken notch]

yeah, for example

Like, idk, anything

As it is it's janky

[stark karma]

That’s insane lmao

[broken notch]

Why? A game can always be better than it is already. "The game is already pretty good" or "give the game some leeway" is just not valid as an argumen

Not saying the game ain't awesome

[ancient gyro]

end round cash outs, passive effects, and trading card/6th sense

[broken notch]

but that doesn't mean my complaint is invalid

[stark karma]

You have to accept the games logic

[cloud sinew]

that isnt what alphons is saying. alphons is saying that being ultra-precise shouldn't be the goal of a game. if it's intuitive enough then that's a fine solution.

[stark karma]

dice or troubadour being invalid copies makes sense to me as someone who knows the game

[vocal rose]

guys all we need to do is change pairs

[broken notch]

No I don't have to, I can point out it's as stupid as Matador is, but people complain about Matador because it's not powerful, while people don't complain about how illogical copyablity is because the jokers are powerful

[ancient gyro]

even if royal flush definition gets changed in 1.1 🗣️

[vocal rose]

and the game is perfect

[broken notch]

It's not intuitive enough

[stark karma]

Matador is extremely powerful

[cloud sinew]

people complain about matador because it isn't consistent at all. it works against flint but not hook for example, when hook specifies "hand played" but flint doesnt.

[stark karma]

Matador is just incredibly illlogical even within the logic the game tries to create for itself

[broken notch]

Same with Blueprint

[calm furnace]

also buying matador doesnt explain what it does

meanwhile if you BUY blueprint it TELLs you what it does

[ancient gyro]

I mean matador is powerful for the 1 in 6 probability that its able to work on in practice

[broken notch]

A joker's powerfulness also means it just works. Blueprint is more powerful than Hit the Road because hit the road is much more situational

[stark karma]

Invis is def an outlier but it can be argued that the (0/2) timer exempts it from criticism

[ancient gyro]

with the 1 in 6 being a less frequent grasp

[mighty hare]

Question about what's better

[terse vale]

ya

[mighty hare]

I have a soul that gives me a yorick right

Im on ante 11 btw

[terse vale]

mhm

[cloud sinew]

not worth

[mighty hare]

K

[terse vale]

ya prolly not

[cloud sinew]

you need stacking xmult, baron/mime ideally, that late into endless

[ancient gyro]

blueprint i found out as a new player was a game element to give you an excuse to "discover more of the game as you play"

which most ppl just happened to tolerate atp

[mighty hare]

I have 5 abstarct jokers

[rich mauve]

well

we're playing roguelike here

you have to tolerate a lot of things

to play this genre

[cunning garden]

Got a legendary and blueprint from a double tagged spectral pack. Is this a cook? Never had this legendary before 🤔

[ancient gyro]

like reading

[rich mauve]

reading mentioned

🔥

[stark karma]

So you have an abstract and x5 mult

[mighty hare]

No got rid of x5 mult I had 5 slots

Wait what x5 mult

[stark karma]

Having five abstracts

[mighty hare]

Ah

Ye I do

[stark karma]

Scaling is kinda funny in this game

[forest birch]

Narcissistic showman

[stark karma]

Because you can have joker scaling, joker slot scaling and played hand scaling hahahaha

[empty fiber]

balatro multiplayer

[clear kettle]

damn🥀

[forest birch]

New run and this mf still haunting me

[robust lance]

No balls

[woven spire]

do it

[vocal rose]

rare optimal double skip

[terse vale]

was the first one top up ?

[vocal rose]

second one was

[terse vale]

I seee

[heady zenith]

Nah I can tell ya for a fact she isn't straight

[robust lance]

They needed someone for the straights

[dawn scarab]

my new record

[safe flower]

Wonder what the card thats been sold the most is

Its probably not cola?

[robust lance]

It’s invis obviously

[safe flower]

Also probably not

[calm furnace]

imagine taking a soul card when i have something better than all legendaries with swash

[robust lance]

Bro thinks this is the omelette

[dawn scarab]

[calm furnace]

swash egg is red card if red card was good

[robust lance]

So nothing changed

[glossy forge]

I have a singular pair level, my bus is at +15 and I'm debating whether to buy the Heiroglyph or not. These are the only two 'useable' jokers the game gave me

I'm before the Ante 2 boss

[heady zenith]

Oh hey its cirno

[glossy forge]

I cut out a whole lot of faces and turned to stone some

[calm furnace]

invis hitting on egg was such a clutch

[terse vale]

this is fine

I think right

seems like you’ll be fine atleast

[midnight forum]

sheesh that was closer than id like. My 4oak didnt end it inhad a straight in hand but cerulean selected a dud. I had to high card and i wasnr sure if it cleared

now i dont have to buy to do list any more 🙏🏻

[median gust]

Nice job

[midnight forum]

only six jokers left to gold sticker

[vocal rose]

wat

why wouldn’t u still buy to do list

[robust lance]

Not if I have to say anything about it

[robust lance]

Gets mogged by cloud 9

My phone did NOT want me to type mogged holy crap

[ancient gyro]

im not that picky

[minor portal]

To Do list is actually coded to choose straight flush several times before doing something else.

[robust lance]

It’s also coded to NEVER select your most played hand

[ancient gyro]

I don't get it

[robust lance]

Except when obelisk is owned

Then it ALWAYS picks it

[minor portal]

There is no such thing as a high card or pair when you have to do list

[sullen aspen]

wow superpostion and mad joker in one run

2 shitter jokers off the list

[midnight forum]

because it wants to choose straight flush and its always eternal

I only pick up to do list if it has HC Pairs or Two Pair

and then sell it after

[cosmic sun]

1.7 miller

[ancient gyro]

well

i didn't streak for nothing

[azure ginkgo]

Trying to naneinf for the first time, I think my time is running out if anyone has advice lol. Haven't gotten either reroll voucher and still missing antimatter, scoring e84 with best possible hand rn so still have a few antes but i fear it wont be enough

[midnight forum]

i mean its useful just not something i buy half the time unless i can get immediate pay off.

[sullen aspen]

ur dead ante 25

im pretty sure

[shy topaz]

what should i look for to make this run even better??

[azure ginkgo]

Yeah I am too. Not sure what to do here

[ancient gyro]

a 4 dollar econ joker doesn't need immediate payout

[sullen aspen]

pray for antimatter ig

[heady narwhal]

I love To Do List

[sullen aspen]

orrrrr maybe bean bug next ante

[azure ginkgo]

What's the bean bug again/how do you do it? Most of my scoring is from planets ngl so idk how much thatd help

[forest birch]

Yeah checks out

[midnight forum]

until you have it and it keeps wanting hands you cant play for 5 rounds in a row and its just taking up space

[ancient gyro]

you're confusing the necessity of immediate econ payout and immediate scoring payout. the latter is far more mandatory

[sullen aspen]

to do list is overhated☹️

free money early on

[forest birch]

But when it hits the high card 🤤

[midnight forum]

Nah im not confusing nothing. I have incredibly shitty rng. Like i literally consider myself a statistical anomoly you should watch me play MTG sometime lol

[cosmic sun]

Exactly

[sullen aspen]

clean up on aisle my pants😂✌️

[azure ginkgo]

@sullen aspen okay wait i found a bean whats the move?

[midnight forum]

I never said I hated it?

Its just not somethint i rely on

[shy topaz]

im reaching e19. for around how much more can i survive reliably???

[forest birch]

Balatro fans when they see a big number

[azure ginkgo]

I think 1 trib copy and 1 sock copy would score higher than 2x trib

[midnight forum]

If you want an econ joker I hate its Seance or Satellite

[forest birch]

What was the concept with satellite

[azure ginkgo]

Ugh I think my run's dead I don't see a way to salvage this. rip

[ancient gyro]

seance is more of a value generator

[sullen aspen]

what ante

[azure ginkgo]

24 but I don't have a reroll for crimson heart and its violet vessel :/

[sullen aspen]

fuck

[glossy forge]

I'm super struggling

It might be a Bones + Skip angle hail mary

[shell rock]

do i immolate here

[azure ginkgo]

Oh wait small blind has a voucher skip??

maybe saved?

[sullen aspen]

eyes eyes eyes

[narrow scroll]

yes always bones skip

[midnight forum]

You only need one onv

obv

just get dna

[narrow scroll]

bones skip on ante 2

[shell rock]

dna makes me lose though

[azure ginkgo]

broke e100 for the first time im now happy with the run even if i lose it. lets see the voucher 🙏

[forest birch]

dna makes me lose control 🤤

[shell rock]

unless i get nat negative dna

[azure ginkgo]

its cooked

[sullen aspen]

rip

[strange compass]

What should I sell for photo

[glossy forge]

Lo siento señor Bones 😭😭😭😭

[shell rock]

the immolate didn’t work

i hit e23 though

[midnight forum]

I know im being baited....

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[azure ginkgo]

LMAO i found an ecto and it hit my turtle bean this is so sad man

[ancient gyro]

ig

[tawny crypt]

pls help

[midnight forum]

didnt matter i screwed up on the mark anyway went for a pair face for scary face and i whiffed

[robust lance]

King high card TRUST

[azure ginkgo]

Are your high card or pair at all leveled, or played a lot?

[azure ginkgo]

High card king and pray

[tawny crypt]

if I had ONE club I could flush my way out of this

[azure ginkgo]

That sucks

[ancient gyro]

so why wouldnt this win

[azure ginkgo]

How big is dagger

[cerulean scaffold]

[ancient gyro]

flush slander continues 🗣️

[tawny crypt]

FUCK

[azure ginkgo]

Noooooo RIP

[cerulean scaffold]

When does this game update twin 😢

[azure ginkgo]

Did misprint low roll?

[robust lance]

Evil fucked up leaf of despair

[robust lance]

When we all DIE!!!!

[tawny crypt]

im assuming so

[azure ginkgo]

Pain

[cerulean scaffold]

😢🤔😢😢😢😢

[tawny crypt]

fuck sake that took like an hour 😭

[wintry igloo]

ouija hit really good

[ancient gyro]

what did you even sell when your remaining jokers were all immune to this finisher blind

[wintry igloo]

now just dreaming a wee

[lapis pumice]

is it actually worth it (naneinf attempt)

[ancient gyro]

legendaries aren't required to naneinf

[willow frost]

savescum

[fervent plover]

Guys which deck is best to complete a run in less than 12 rounds?

[ancient gyro]

and you're a few antes too late to consider one of its existing methods

[ancient gyro]

plasma

[fervent plover]

And how to complete it easily

[robust lance]

Yeah so is 19 thousand stencils

[ancient gyro]

well

[willow frost]

thats a wise observation

[ancient gyro]

that requires a legendary

[robust lance]

What about 19 thousand and 1

[ancient gyro]

what's your point

[robust lance]

Idk

[wintry igloo]

still lost because game decided to give me all other cards other than the 2s

[ancient gyro]

maintaining the slander agenda per usual

[sage zodiac]

What did you end up getting? Btw at ante 11, i don't think perkeo would find you enough cryptids (of which you have none)

[fervent plover]

Can someone explain plasma deck?

I did not understand what it does

[willow frost]

perkeo at pretty much any time is fine for getting cryptids if youre just doing naneinf, because you dont need perkeo in the first place so anything you get is a boost

[ancient gyro]

adds chips and mult
divides it evenly by 2 rounded down
squares that score
doubles blind requirements

[willow frost]

after scoring, instead of your score being for example 10 x 2 = 20, itd be 6 x 6 = 36 (6 is 10+2 divided by 2)

[lapis pumice]

nothing i skipped it and now im in this position

im worried abt the vouchers though

[fervent plover]

Aha. So idk if that's good or not

[lapis pumice]

missing directors blank and hand size

[sage zodiac]

No retcon i assume?

[fervent plover]

Cause I mostly try playing kings if possible

[willow frost]

kinda good, but kinda not at high stakes

[sage zodiac]

Yeah you're in a tough spot. I can get Baron mine frequently, but it's the damn vouchers.

Makes anaglyph deck tempting a lot

[ancient gyro]

anaglyph makes you require a juggle tag or a legendary to compensate for your score essentially being square rooted

[sage zodiac]

I guess we have to assume they're all the same legendary? I'm actually really curious now. Either save scum or send me the seed

[sleek ember]

not tchincally possible as you would need to have start with showman

[willow frost]

how is this possible lol

[sage zodiac]

Show man

[ancient gyro]

hey Gemini, give me a 3 soul balatro seed from a reddit post

[molten cliff]

after 10 hours I finnaly have my first satisfaction moment

[cosmic sun]

Unbreakable ahhhh glass cards

[weak relic]

Balala

[azure ginkgo]

gave it a good run o7

[weak relic]

Real

[night bridge]

How are they looking so far

[white flint]

i just found a possibly a very good seed lol

[lapis pumice]

that run's dead

i didnt have directors

found the plant

spent 1k in rerolls

no luchador

unlucky

[white flint]

baron mime brainstorm all appeared in like 8th ante lol

and showman did so earlier

[lapis pumice]

so crazy i didnt find a single cola or voucher tag either

in like $2k-$3k total cash worth of rerolls

[stark karma]

Glass joker is pretty amazing for this reason lol

[white flint]

and i got 50% of completionist+

yay

[sullen aspen]

wow bean gold sticker

another aids joker out of the way

[night bridge]

My naneinf run i was able to get like 6 double tags so the voucher skip saved it because it was looking so bad before that

[green stone]

[white flint]

bean is cool but only lasts for 5 rounds

[cosmic sun]

Do I even need to say it

[wide ravine]

How can use the death card because everytime i use it it doesn’t convert the card I want

[sullen aspen]

yeah they dont say

[weak relic]

Narcissism

[sullen aspen]

turns the left card into the right card

Basically it will turn ur queen into a king

[night bridge]

0 days

[wide ravine]

So put the queen next to the king right

[wide ravine]

Lmao

[sullen aspen]

pair slop

[sullen aspen]

what are u trying to copy?

[wide ravine]

The queen

[sullen aspen]

then swap their places

Basically put the king to the left and the queen to the right

[cosmic sun]

endless is cocomelon for balatro players

talmbout pairslop

[white flint]

which deck should i gold stake 1st

yellow or ghost

[night bridge]

Ghost deck my goat

[sullen aspen]

both are good

I like ghost more

[white flint]

cuz like i still need orange stake on ghost and purple on yellow

and i already did blue deck as my 1st gold stake win

[raw whale]

desperately trying to spot photoshop

[lapis pumice]

that is so lucky

[raw whale]

i CANNOT believe ppl are out there getting 3 sould in one pack when i do like 20+ runs without a single one

[spring granite]

Burnt Joker + Cavendish = easy W

[spring granite]

given enough players any theoretically possible scenario will occur and be shared eventually

[raw whale]

technically the game is stilll limited by the amount of seeds. Some extremely impropable events might never occur despite being technically possible

[dawn scarab]

6th baron run today

[raw whale]

yooo pants !

[white flint]

i prob sell raised fist to get poly spare trousers right?

[raw whale]

full house build?

[spring granite]

I would, it's just free mult

[white flint]

i have more two pair lvls rn

[raw whale]

wait SYNERGY

[white flint]

but i can switch to full house if i get enough lvls

[raw whale]

extremely rare uranus run?

yall

i might possibly be somewhat in a winning position

[dawn scarab]

wtf is wrong with ur ui?

[sleek ember]

aint, sorry

[sleek ember]

its a lil gay but its okay

[raw whale]

in-game or OS?

[raw whale]

anyway do i take madness

[rose gust]

Last run before c++

[tender sphinx]

nice

[rose gust]

(I lived btw no worries)

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[calm sapphire]

holy random joker generator lol

[rose gust]

Im my defense, I replaced the parking with invisible and it didn’t hit

[serene forge]

you don't want uranus you want mercury

[raw whale]

why mercury if pants

[serene forge]

because pants is a pair joker

[lapis pumice]

certificate was around for 10 rounds, not a single red seal did it give me

[raw whale]

it's a two pair..?

[sullen aspen]

what theyre tryna imply is

u spam 2pair

then pivot to normal pairs

[serene forge]

it scales by playing two pairs yes

that's why you want a weakly leveled two pair

so you can play more of them

[raw whale]

ohhh

yea that makes sense

uranus never wins :c

[woven spire]

holy hand levels

[dawn scarab]

i love baron

[glossy mortar]

I genuinely didn’t think this strat would win but turns out it did lol. Every single one of these cards are ones I’ve never taken to the end on this difficulty. All of them got stickers for this. I wish I could have kept Burnt Joker along. They were the real mvp here, however sadly I chose to throw him in the campfire to ensure a victory.

I wish I found supernova at the end. That would have been insane lol.

I swear supernova only ever comes up in ante 1 when you don’t even know what you’re gonna be playing xD

[white flint]

dang

the pillar killed a very good run

😭

[ebon condor]

ey hell yes brother

[raw whale]

MICHEL POPPED ON MADNESS RUN

insane

one round banana at bosss

[ebon condor]

shit sorry checked your pronouns mb

[raw whale]

ok probably not right

[dawn scarab]

immolate right?

[raw whale]

wouln't be so sure, what's your scoring

and deckfixing for that matter

[inland helm]

yeah how many red seals do you have

[white flint]

😭 why did bp had to be perishable

[raw whale]

because gold stake

[night bridge]

Depends on ante and deck

Id chariot just in case i need score

[raw whale]

i wouldn't, you have barely enough to get full rebate value and immoing only increases the chance of drawing bad cards

[willow frost]

i think his current priority is getting more cards as well now

[raw whale]

YALL I WON

[cunning garden]

Do I sell hanging chad for card sharp?

[dawn scarab]

no

[raw whale]

i just had a paraedolia in shop right before the plant lol

[sullen aspen]

no😭😭😭✌️✌️

[cunning garden]

damn

[tiny temple]

Just got completionist! Woo

[dawn scarab]

https://giphy.com/gifs/meme-cinema-cain-C89Y2Ef3A8jM0gpiq2

[tiny temple]

Lol

[cunning garden]

Ah well

[atomic hound]

i've completed c++ and want to try and naneinf at least once. should i go for seeded or unseeded?

[cunning garden]

Got this new deck at least

[dawn scarab]

how

[tacit nova]

i have hanging chad blueprint do i blueprint photo or balot

[dawn scarab]

ah yes cool deck

[dawn scarab]

photo

[tacit nova]

ty

[tacit nova]

holy money farm

[dawn scarab]

what money?

[tacit nova]

im doing a royal flush build rn

lol

[dawn scarab]

u need sum?

[tacit nova]

nah my runs over next round anyway

[dawn scarab]

done

[sullen aspen]

un seeded is more fullfilling

[dawn scarab]

almost

[tacit nova]

welp

that seed gives a chicot if anyone wants to try it

[sullen aspen]

chigoat*

[gentle island]

Yay +4 gold stakes

[fervent locust]

wrong server fml

[sullen aspen]

sob

[sullen aspen]

also wtf is this set up😭

[fervent locust]

don't ask me how

[sullen aspen]

did u have an ungodly amount of mars levels/steels?

[dawn scarab]

why tf u got mime

6 and 7 hmmm

[opaque sand]

Photo chad

[grizzled warren]

Value.

[opaque sand]

Do you have splash tho?

[ancient gyro]

wasted blue seal value

anyways

potential 7 streak run 🗣️

[night bridge]

istg if that idol picks that 6

[glossy forge]

Hmmm do I take the constellation

I have a singular blue seal and my vampire is at 1.8x

Im looking at replacing either the bull or business card

I'm playing Straights, enabled via the juggler

[raw whale]

yipee

final build

green deck black stake beaten

[gentle island]

a peak one

[gentle island]

because its peak

[nocturne frost]

Barely missed it

(banner was a replacement of another useless but higher chance of getting a sticker joker)

Card sharp is literally on the last breath

[dawn scarab]

red banana

[dense willow]

Fastest run i had

[sullen aspen]

idts

u can scale vamp pretty fast

[glossy forge]

Yaur, I replaced space man and then the business with a Luchador

I'm in Ante 7, a midas Mask shows up a little too late

[raw whale]

yooo

surely i take trading card here?

[dawn scarab]

pog

[glossy forge]

It'd be real funny of the luchador gets disabled here

Straight runs are fun

Once in a while

[mighty flume]

OK, I BETTER GET AT LEAST DUSK AND/OR LOYALTY CARD GOLDED...

because my fucking eggs got rotten... BRAIN ROTTEN

[glossy forge]

To break from the Pair-maxxed meta

[robust lance]

Hack carry

[mighty flume]

oh, wait. mistake. is Dusk and BEAN. not loyalty. loyalty i did it a while away...

speaking of beans

just in time

sorry hack. but the show is over

[robust lance]

NNNNOOOOOOO

NOT HACK

[mighty flume]

Thanks for the bad jokes Hack... but the beans had to be golded...

1 JOKER LEFT

the only one i hadn't fully adapted to yet.

[dawn scarab]

5k wasted

[vital wigeon]

bean was my final gold joker haha

[mighty flume]

Im so freaking close...

[robust lance]

Play the dusk deck from a mod

Might help

Not telling the mod though

[rotund igloo]

Damn im sorry

[mighty flume]

nope!

i want it vanilla...

welp, vanilla with QOL mods. i don't have anything that can give me an unfair advantage. like getting unlocks on seeded runs, force perfect seeds, etc.

i only have handy, jokerdisplay, trance and galdur

[robust lance]

Just don’t enable those settings

I only got 2 mods and I’m having fun

But this isn’t the chat for that

[waxen quartz]

bean def worse than dusk to sticker. just need a good joker lineup that can survive if you can't make good use of it

[robust lance]

I heard if you bleed on bloodstone it gets buffed

(You die)

((So you don’t use it))

[calm moth]

Theoretically speaking what level flush would you need to get 100 million points on one hand on flush power alone

[balmy gulch]

The Wee in my Trousers combo is pretty solid

[robust lance]

7000

[balmy gulch]

Isn't it like 1800?

[robust lance]

Idk

[balmy gulch]

Then whyd you say 7000?

[robust lance]

Didn’t say exactly 100 million

[balmy gulch]

@calm moth 1825 levels

[oak elbow]

Just a few more layers of hell

[terse vale]

1

[sullen aspen]

dusk takes more braincells to make work

but bean is gonna die sooner rather than later

[analog river]

Does anyone have a legitimate consistent way of getting wins on black deck blue stake or higher??? Been struggling quite a bit

[ancient gyro]

practically the same as most other traditional decks with a little bit more joker leniency drilled into your early game direction

[waxen quartz]

the -1 hand is just pain...

[terse vale]

true

[ancient gyro]

and taking note 33% score increase, sometimes 2 pair could be a decent alternative long term depending on subsequent conditions

and joker variety with on playing card scoring jokers

[calm furnace]

obelisk is a joke of how easy it is

[celest vessel]

canadian dollars?

[prime tulip]

I hate obelisk

[celest vessel]

how do I ride the bus then

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[prime tulip]

Beautiful

[vestal copper]

[robust lance]

Dude really likes kids

[vestal copper]

white stake

[prime tulip]

WEE

[vestal copper]

the greatest message of blord

[serene forge]

nanlet

[prime tulip]

Sadly haven't been able to, my skill issues are too bad

I am just bad at the game

[serene forge]

we know

[robust lance]

Can you believe this fella

I’m bad at the game and even I know obelisk is good

[vestal copper]

if you try playing gold stake and using obelisk maybe it will change

[serene forge]

good for you

same for me

[prime tulip]

I refuse