🕹・game-discussion

[serene forge]

you

[light brook]

eww i’d never

[woven spire]

ionno

no one

probably

[light brook]

my friend plays only skips

[drowsy rain]

Ball knower

[digital pewter]

i've tried hit the road so many times and it never worked

[terse dock]

Try harder

[light brook]

centralize a deck of jacks

[drowsy rain]

You weren’t hitting the road enough

[woven spire]

Soooo they doesn’t play at all

[terse dock]

htr isnt even the worst rare

[serene forge]

did you know that negative hrt has trans colors

[digital pewter]

maybe when i see it next year because it's rare

[light brook]

he loses a fuckton but swears it works

[terse dock]

Cheating:

[ancient gyro]

aw man I have 17 mercury levels 🥀

[woven spire]

yeah like 1/1000 times i bet it works

[terse dock]

banana

[woven spire]

17 levels by ante 5???? y that’s crazy

[light brook]

can you tell he unlocked merry andy along with blueprint

[digital pewter]

you shouldn't be driving at night without your headlights on

[woven spire]

That’s just weird 😭

wtf

[ancient gyro]

it's just a part of the system

[last geyser]

I’m losing my mind

Another jokerless run to ante 8 to die

[digital pewter]

bro had madness

[serene forge]

I don't use a car I just do chained ultras

[light brook]

what’s the MOST FUN hand to play in your opinions

[serene forge]

straight flush

[ancient gyro]

any hand

[last geyser]

Straight

[light brook]

you’re lying if you say pair

[last geyser]

Gay

[digital pewter]

flushes are fun kinda

[last geyser]

lol

[woven spire]

how tf do you get 3 blue seals by round 8

[digital pewter]

one time i got a wildcard build and all four uncommon suit jokers

[light brook]

i’m a 5oak fan

[ancient gyro]

any hand

[robust lance]

flush 7

[digital pewter]

death?

[robust lance]

not flush five

[fringe nebula]

+7 from onyx is already pretty nice tbf
getting +100 chips from arrowhead is also already good in earlygame

[robust lance]

or even normal flush

[light brook]

bit of everything ahh levels

[ancient gyro]

so called 4 econ jokers and a good mult joker

[woven spire]

yeah, and a bunch of luck for that ig

[ancient gyro]

oh its not the levels 👅

[keen pilot]

And so is econ

[ancient gyro]

haven't found one yet

[woven spire]

fair

[light brook]

play that last 4oak you won’t

[ancient gyro]

I already won

[drowsy rain]

Showmenuinely it’s straight flush

[last path]

cartomancer, gift card, certificate, or rocket. which one would you consider the best early ante uncommon joker. early meaning antes 1-3.

[ancient gyro]

technically I couldve

[fringe nebula]

$3-5 if you're lucky

[ancient gyro]

since replaying the seed you can have a 5 hand obby licks cap

[terse dock]

Flush house

[manic zealot]

this luchador is about to be used so fucking hard

[fringe nebula]

rough gem would be better if it doesn't cost $7 to buy

[drowsy rain]

omg is that superposition!!

[heady spoke]

LUCHA GOAT

[light brook]

ladies and gents and everyone else, i present to you, bullshit!

[ember shoal]

negative yorick from the thing

[light brook]

literally had no chad synergy jokers

[eternal kestrel]

Where sticker

[drowsy rain]

I ❤️ chips jokers

[last path]

watch it land on luchador first

[mortal nimbus]

Ignore that almost every joker would be better individually if it was cheaper

[manic zealot]

then I'll just wait 1 hand lol

[light brook]

glitch that happens sometimes

[eternal kestrel]

PLEASE don’t tell me I have to do another gold stake run

[ancient gyro]

uncommon early it's either cert or midas for econ. for safe scoring purposes probably fib or madness... there's not a lot of true no risk early game uncommons

[light brook]

about that…

[terse dock]

Golden Joker costs $6

[fringe nebula]

i mean, you can literally buy stuff like to-do list for cheaper and it probably will give more money for you

[drowsy rain]

This has happened to someone and they sold it without knowing it was debuffed

[terse dock]

Grow up

[eternal kestrel]

Jandom say it ain’t so

[mortal nimbus]

mobile has issues saving sometimes so this unfortunately is pretty common

[light brook]

sorry pal

[eternal kestrel]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

IT WAS A GENERATIONAL RUN

[light brook]

i’m praying you get a generationaler run

[mortal nimbus]

it has a niche of being one of the retriggerable econ jokers, not useless, but not great

[eternal kestrel]

With what jokers?

[drowsy rain]

Flower Pot and Seance

[light brook]

good ones

[eternal kestrel]

Like which ones

[eternal kestrel]

True

[light brook]

uhhh ones you need

[ancient gyro]

I might have a screenshot of that

[manic zealot]

the luchador did indeed go hard

[eternal kestrel]

Scaling chips joker

[eternal kestrel]

Egg value

[manic zealot]

gift card more like

[light brook]

noooo you lost your temperance value

[fringe nebula]

even for $6, it will pay for itself in 2 rounds without having to do anything

[manic zealot]

damn I should've just lost the run to preserve temperance ):

damn it

[light brook]

see now you’re getting it

[cursive crater]

new run value

[tranquil steppe]

Well this is fun

[manic zealot]

cuz ancient runs are baller

[light brook]

“a little bit of this, a little bit of that!” ahh run

[tranquil steppe]

I do love me a good ancient run. Really hoping dusk shows up soon

[cursive crater]

dude i hate aj is that just me

[light brook]

bro is ancient joker

[manic zealot]

not just you, lots of players don't get it at first

[fringe nebula]

it's a good setup imo
chips from scary face with rettrigger, +mult and xmult

[tranquil steppe]

Yea

[fringe nebula]

me too

[tranquil steppe]

Why thank you

[manic zealot]

if you know what you're doing it's usually a free win if you get it early enough

[light brook]

in seriousness inconsistency is the reason people don’t like it and a lot of people don’t like it

[tranquil steppe]

I’m gonna hit that hieroglyph to boost yorick up some more

[cursive crater]

alright

[fringe nebula]

me when ancient joker hits diamond but the boss blind is the window

[terse dock]

It is not that hard to get a diamond flush

[light brook]

every jokers gonna have a hater and a lover

[fringe nebula]

flush 🤢

[light brook]

except constellation no one better hate constellation

[manic zealot]

from a run I got just a few hours ago (ignore the throwback that was just for the meme)

[tranquil steppe]

We love constellation

[light brook]

pairslop players when they don’t get grimbo

[terse dock]

Sometimes I wonder why I bother

[manic zealot]

why I skipped a lot in my recent ancient run

[light brook]

“ew a build that involves flushes i want nothing to do with that” like what onyx agate ancient joker like these are valid flush build jokers

[terse dock]

Hell a gem is good enough to consider flush if you find a bull

[terse vale]

honestly not really onycx

[manic zealot]

tbf flushes usually aren't consistent enough in gold stake. but that goes out the window with ancient joker

[tranquil steppe]

There’s a lot of flush friendly jokers

[light brook]

i hate flush hate like why do you hate something just because the thing you vouch by is better

[terse dock]

I hate full house

[manic zealot]

flushes are fun

straights are also fun

[terse vale]

because flushes aren’t that good and pairs are better

[light brook]

gays at the straight bar:

[tranquil steppe]

Because, straights bruh or somethin. Can’t play ze flushes cuz straights

[terse dock]

did you not read the second half of the statement

[fringe nebula]

i don't hate flushes i just act like flush never exist after getting past earlygame

[manic talon]

I LOVE BLOODSTONE GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[ancient gyro]

i hate him too as far as "good" jokers go

[terse dock]

aj is a homie

[manic zealot]

I do a happy dance when I see ancient

same if I see obelisk

[terse vale]

no I did
i’m just saying I hate flushes because they’re bad and pairs aren’t bad

[terse dock]

Sure he has his flaws but he's one of my goats

[fringe nebula]

bloodstone on checkered deck

nice

[terse dock]

I may just be boring though

[calm moth]

So does anyone have any tips on how to beat ghost black stake(its my first one)

[terse dock]

my favorite joker is fib

[terse dock]

Do you want to have fun

[manic zealot]

prioritize money

[fringe nebula]

you see an eternal joker, would you take it and carry it for the rest of the run?

[terse dock]

sometimes you need to take an eternal to survive

[terse vale]

also people who love flushes are annoying with their takes

[light brook]

always take flowerpot

[terse dock]

if its ante 2 big blind coming up and you have no scoring and an eternal mad joker is offered take it

[terse dock]

I am indifferent toward flushes but I still give them credit for what they can do

[calm moth]

Why would I take flower pot

[light brook]

broaden your opinions bro sometimes a hot take ain’t a wrong one

[manic zealot]

never take it

[light brook]

best joker in the game (this is a joke btw never take it)

[terse dock]

if you already have a splash for some reason its alright

if you have wild cards its fine

[calm moth]

Flower pot ..I usually sacrifice it to dagger

[terse vale]

most times hot takes are wrong
sometimes tho they’re fine

[terse vale]

straights

[ancient gyro]

reasons

[terse vale]

thats kinda it

[light brook]

true true

[terse vale]

and splash

[light brook]

and wilds

[terse dock]

dude if you think about it all of the symbiosis states occur in balatro

[light brook]

my dumbass read this and thought cell division for some reason

[cosmic sun]

flower pot having splash synergy is cute

[terse dock]

parasitism is midas and vamp
commensalism is blueprint and any good joker
mutalism is splash and flower pot

[cosmic sun]

very flavorful

[cosmic sun]

one of these is a jojo reference

[terse dock]

you probably watch vargskelethor joel

[cosmic sun]

PROBABLY?

[ancient gyro]

apparently splash mechanic flavor was just an implementation of "splash damage" in balatro

[cosmic sun]

[terse dock]

The universe is entropic for all i know you could've found out about jojo on your own and votv from The Librarian

[drowsy rain]

Can someone explain why being able to make two cards wild instead of just one would be overpowered

[terse dock]

It wouldn't

[fringe nebula]

it wouldn't

[drowsy rain]

It would just be so much more usable

[tranquil steppe]

It would

Not

[terse dock]

Lucky got the same change and it became a good choice

[cosmic sun]

I did find JoJo on my own

It was kind of everywhere around 2019

[drowsy rain]

Lucky cards got a decent bit better

[tranquil steppe]

Mojo jojo has a big brain

[terse dock]

Yeah but lucky cards arent glass cards they arent an always spec

[drowsy rain]

I’m talking about wild though

[terse dock]

You should always have a glass card as a literal break in case of emergency but not always have lucky cards

[ancient gyro]

having two of a nothing enhancement doesn't make it a better enhancement

[terse dock]

I am comparing lucky cards and wild cards

[tranquil steppe]

Glass is more fun

[errant bolt]

How do y'all feel about vampire

[tranquil steppe]

And it is a proven fact that your glass cards WILL NOT break when you have glass joker

[fringe nebula]

atleast it would make some jokers more usable

[ancient gyro]

it's amazing

[drowsy rain]

I would genuinely consider flower pot sometimes if it was two

[ancient gyro]

like what 😐

[terse vale]

B+

[light brook]

good only with midas mask, otherwise it’s less than good

[ancient gyro]

oh cool im vulnerable to 3 more boss blinds

[terse dock]

making them immune to suit debuffers along with the 2 would be a bit strong i think there should be a voucher that immunizes wilds

[errant bolt]

I didn't even think of that combo 👁️

[twin sigil]

its rather good, but IMO its not that fun to play

[cosmic sun]

Vampire Vagabond

[tranquil steppe]

This. It’s petty meh in most circumstances

[terse dock]

Vamp is an S tier support xmult but a C tier primary xmult

[ancient gyro]

too bad pot is bugged with wilds specifically lmao 🥀

[fringe nebula]

it's fine. you can feed vampire random junk and it will grow
the only downside is that you can't use glass

[cosmic sun]

Vampire has synergy with any value gen but also just econ to keep digging for tarot value

[terse dock]

It isnt a bug

Wilds can only cover one suit at a time

[ancient gyro]

talking about boss blinds

when debuffed

[terse dock]

I see

[terse dock]

Ironically its a less swingy baron in this circumstance

[cosmic sun]

Also I barely look at Empress, Wild cards, etc, until I get Vampire

[terse dock]

Baron is an A tier support but an F tier primary

[terse vale]

flowerpot wilds get fucked by any debuffer except the plant

[cosmic sun]

Suddenly those tarots become really valuable

[ancient gyro]

not the support and primary argument

[cosmic sun]

It can be a primary, just depends on the circumstances

[drowsy rain]

CHICOTTT! I NEED CHICOTTT!!

[ancient gyro]

my hallucination is my scaler all of a sudden

[terse dock]

Dont get me wrong baron is still a two pack of ass on a majority of runs but people give it too little credit

[fringe nebula]

agree

[ancient gyro]

saved by the fist

and pair lobotomy

ig

[terse vale]

I love chicot

[manic talon]

its like 4 steel cards for a price of one joker slot

its like ass but sometimes useful

[cosmic sun]

Used it exactly one time the last time you said this

[ancient gyro]

i still have yet to get my own true baron run

[cosmic sun]

People probably do just ignore Baron tbh

[drowsy rain]

I think the high score and the gold stake groups just like hating on each others jokers so bloodstone and baron seem like unusable jokers in 100% of runs

[ancient gyro]

queens is all I do

[twin lantern]

guys

[cosmic sun]

If I'm putting Steel on things it's for Steel Joker

[terse dock]

Baron feels like an unc joker more than a rare joker imma be real

[twin lantern]

do seeds works with mods?

[manic talon]

kinda

[terse dock]

Questionably

[drowsy rain]

Maybe the artwork lol

[cosmic sun]

"Baron feels like an unc"

👴

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[fringe nebula]

baron can work on gold stake runs, you need a tarot gen for it

though

[ancient gyro]

i default steels for queens or other duplicate upside ranks like 8s or 9s

[terse vale]

and lots of planets

[drowsy rain]

I slap those things on aces so they feel important for once

[ancient gyro]

aka a lot of consumables

aces are already pretty decent

[cosmic sun]

It does feel like something you go out of your way to do

[drowsy rain]

Has anyone made a sevens build

rver

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[fringe nebula]

who

[terse dock]

All sevens builds are straights

[cosmic sun]

I'm usually a little hesitant putting stuff on Face cards also

Moreso Kings

[fringe nebula]

probably odd todd focused build

[cosmic sun]

So Baron is definitely something that I rarely route into

[ancient gyro]

I just put value generators on them

[drowsy rain]

Like no one would do it for the seven they just pull a polychrome seven early I assume

[terse dock]

Most sevens builds i make are sevens by accident

[ancient gyro]

blue seal

[terse dock]

Most of the time I overfix my straights

[cosmic sun]

I think of Obelisk and maybe Steel Joker the most

Oh wait Holo exists

[terse dock]

I just bail to 4oak at a point

[ancient gyro]

I think of blackboard

[cosmic sun]

I always look for something to prep Holo

Oh yeah Blackboard is like a top 3

[ancient gyro]

every run I've always ended with more black suits

[cosmic sun]

Top 3 speculative

[ancient gyro]

to the point where I don't think about it

[cosmic sun]

Never erosion tho

[broken notch]

Well winning jokerless didn't take long but, thank GODS for the reroll voucher!

[calm moth]

This may be the run to finally beat ghost black

[cosmic sun]

Unless Erosion is all I got

[ancient gyro]

const just becomes an accidental speculative play

[broken notch]

you can go f yourself violet vessel

[terse vale]

satellite prolly top 4 or something

[ancient gyro]

campfire is technically speculative if I just have consumables upstairs

[terse vale]

well

[cosmic sun]

c9

C9 might mog it

[drowsy rain]

Throwback top 1 speculative an I right guys 😂😂

[ancient gyro]

I don't go out of my way to pick more than two different planets normally

[cosmic sun]

I be thinking of fools when I do anything planet related

Unless it's mercury fool

[terse vale]

I was thinking of if you had no good planets in a pack you could pick one that you haven’t before but fool value

unless you already have a shitty tarot in fool

[ancient gyro]

mmm I only have like 3 planets I wanna find

sometimes 4

given that I have the money to care about that

[terse dock]

Unless I have a red card on trash packs I speculate driver's license

I never skip packs unless I have a red card

[hasty onyx]

I dont buy red card in the first place

[brave goblet]

something something a great disturbance in the force as though millions of The Fools cried out in terror

[hasty onyx]

I feel like what you couldve got from the pack is better than the mult

[brave goblet]

tell that to a pack containing the star, the lovers, and the moon

[ancient gyro]

you get mult from opening the packs, a consolation prize and better opportunity value

[brave goblet]

you either get mult or something cool from a pack

absolute win

[severe hawk]

I mean 3 mult isn't much

that's like pocket change ante 4 and up

[ancient gyro]

18 mult per ante?

[brave goblet]

3 mult is like expending almost all your hands on grim and bus

that's a lot

[hasty onyx]

Isnt it from skipping the packs

[ancient gyro]

not a lot of jokers have better unconditional money to mult conversion values

[severe hawk]

how good is your econ to get allat

[ancient gyro]

you gotta open them first 👅

[ancient gyro]

very

[brave goblet]

if you don't have a great econ you're not making it that far

[hasty onyx]

And then skip them

🫲😹

[brave goblet]

all it takes is like one hermy to snowball

[ancient gyro]

red card also technically helps you find econ

[brave goblet]

and/or one value generator

[ancient gyro]

because of hits like that

yeah

[severe hawk]

what is the best joker

[ancient gyro]

rebate

[harsh relic]

^

[fringe nebula]

vagabond

[hasty onyx]

perkeo

[severe hawk]

completely unbiased opinion I like it

[terse vale]

it is

[fringe nebula]

more like +6 mult per round

if you buy all of the packs

[brave goblet]

3-6 mult per round is basically bus/grimbo mult lol

[ancient gyro]

and opportunity value

[severe hawk]

ion like vagabond
forces your econ to be bad just to get the star 238 times in a row

[terse vale]

also small numbers get bigger when you add them

[ancient gyro]

you don't like good jokers I've figured

no way

[terse vale]

gold cards, temperance, hermit, lucky cards, fool, stuff like that is econ

[hasty onyx]

I got blueprint out of a judgement one singular time and ive been living off of that strand of hope for weeks now

[terse vale]

also the tarot gen is nutty and worth it

[compact jewel]

What do I do

[fringe nebula]

being flexible is what makes vagabond fun

you can try to make use of whatever vagabond is goving you

[hasty onyx]

Restart run

[brave goblet]

do you like discarding or do you like murdering jokres

[ancient gyro]

castle

[severe hawk]

oh wait i remember credit card exists
disregard my last

[fringe nebula]

castle

[terse vale]

uhhhh castle

[hasty onyx]

house

lupus

[terse vale]

thats one part of your scoring ssoolved

[brave goblet]

real

[harsh relic]

grab the dagger

[unborn cliff]

naneinf on the flint... life is good man

[calm moth]

Is supernova good?

[fringe nebula]

yes

[unborn cliff]

yeah

[harsh relic]

✅✅

[ancient gyro]

mhm

[errant bolt]

I like baseball card

[terse dock]

Its the least of the 3 traditional scalers but its still good

[calm moth]

Whats the last planet Card ?

[terse dock]

Eris

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[terse dock]

Flush Five

[serene forge]

red card is good actually

[serene forge]

credit card is trash

[terse imp]

please help me ive been retriggering the same ace for 10 minutes

[severe hawk]

your message got compressed in my notifications as "very gay lesbian hornet red card is..."

[hasty onyx]

Give me your seed

I need your seed

Nvm this shit MODDED man i’m a fucking idiot

[stone shell]

maybe double skipping wasnt the play here but i really wanted to use loyalty card to one shot the boss blind before it died

[terse imp]

ill hand it over once my ace finishes triggering

[hasty onyx]

How did i not realise

[serene forge]

I hate Baron

[terse imp]

hes decent

[serene forge]

dead econ and skipped for investment

i'd say that's pretty good

[errant bolt]

baron would be good with canio and death tarot cards i think

[terse vale]

nnnnnnnnnooo,,,,,,,,,

[ancient gyro]

idk

[fringe nebula]

if.......... you have alot of tarot gen and blue seal

[hasty onyx]

Do not speak ill of the barussy

[terse imp]

baron mime perkeo cryptid brainstorm blueprint, discussion over

[ancient gyro]

and a boss blind out

[serene forge]

dawg what

[stone shell]

nah i just rolled down because i saw investment was the tag i would dupe if i double skipped

[fringe nebula]

play gold stake

[serene forge]

ah

[serene forge]

shut up greenleaf

[hasty onyx]

Mf CALM DOWN

[terse imp]

ok maybe i am uncivilized (i havent even beat orange stake on checkered yet)

[errant bolt]

Oh how do rental jokers work? My highest deck is still orange stake

[terse vale]

you can’t summon jokers

[fringe nebula]

you pay $3 per round for each rental joker you have

[terse imp]

cryptid on red seal steel king

[errant bolt]

Can it put you into the negatives

[fringe nebula]

yes

[terse vale]

its ok to say baron sucks balls

[errant bolt]

[terse imp]

i mean yeah tbh ive never used him either

[stone shell]

the speed blitz worked out 😭

i can definitely find an uncommon to replace throwback but sad to see it go

[ancient gyro]

@unborn cliff

or something

[unborn cliff]

whats up

[unborn cliff]

say that again

[ancient gyro]

how u doin

[unborn cliff]

conversating

[ancient gyro]

twins

[terse imp]

the correct choice here is to immolate

[unborn cliff]

this image hurts

[unborn cliff]

but it could be yorick

[serene forge]

soul immolate and trans can all be correct

[terse imp]

it could also be canio

[serene forge]

but youre a noob so you''d ankh

[stone shell]

the only right play

[terse imp]

im not that much of a noob id soul here

[hasty onyx]

WE will be taking crafty joker

[unborn cliff]

i would soul and if it wasnt yorick i'd savescum and take immolate

[serene forge]

you are indeed that much of a noob

[terse imp]

ive been here for 20 minutes and still not done

[unborn cliff]

am i noob 🥹🥹🥹🥹

[fringe nebula]

no

[unborn cliff]

guy that doesn't use animation skip while playing cryptid

[terse imp]

is there a skip button mod i need it

[fringe nebula]

yes

[unborn cliff]

talisman has animation skip

also handy mod which is vanilla friendly

[terse imp]

i turned that on but it didnt speed it up

[hasty onyx]

Base completionist is easy to get right

[fringe nebula]

"easy"

[hasty onyx]

Js answer the question bro

[fringe nebula]

depends on your definition of "easy" tbh

[terse vale]

ya kinda

[hasty onyx]

Thank you

[serene forge]

maybe

[unborn cliff]

relatively

probably easier than C++ if i had to guess

[hasty onyx]

WHAAAATTTT

[unborn cliff]

do i hex bornana

[hasty onyx]

Absolutely

[terse imp]

if i uninstall cryptid my normal save will come back right

[hasty onyx]

Then get oops all 6’s to get cavendish

[fringe nebula]

skip

[unborn cliff]

skip for red card value

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[unborn cliff]

we know

[serene forge]

you need to know more

[unborn cliff]

i know

[hasty onyx]

One greedy joker for us

[hybrid tendon]

balatrodle in 2 BRUH

[unborn cliff]

lol

[fringe nebula]

sky is blue

[serene forge]

2/16/26 balatrodle in 3

[novel rain]

Take or skip?

[gentle island]

Well well well

[tranquil cargo]

how much mult does red card have?

[novel rain]

9

[gentle island]

+3 a skip

[novel rain]

I'm very early in

[fringe nebula]

skip

[tranquil cargo]

I'd take the purple seal then

[terse vale]

skip

[fringe nebula]

or purple yeah

[terse vale]

tru yeah

[stone shell]

yeah im gonna spend down to find credit card and skip

(credit card for gold sticker)

[unborn cliff]

who goes

[stone shell]

final boss is amber so should be fine

[robust lance]

i wanted to put the greater or equal to symbol but i dont know the key sequence to type that and I dont want to paste it from a search

[unborn cliff]

sold bbc

[stone shell]

no luck with credit card

[fringe nebula]

baseball is only at x1.5 here

the foil and +15 mult are important so hmmm

[unborn cliff]

i sold bbc

because rental as well

[stone shell]

i love loyalty card i love loyalty card i love loyalty card

[ancient gyro]

8 ball you did good ❤️

[stone shell]

poor guy is lonely

[wraith iris]

i swear, if i find invis on ante 8 big blind one more time

im gonna mod it out of the game lol

[unborn cliff]

thank you mr bones

[wraith iris]

i feel like it shows up every 3rd run

on that specific round

[hasty onyx]

Would paradoelia but for different suits be good

[weary whale]

I remember the first time I beat an unseeded run I found Mr. Bones in the shop right before the Ante 8 boss blind lmao

[robust lance]

thats called wildcarding all your cards

[stone shell]

smeared joker

[hasty onyx]

I thought abt this i think i lowk cooked

[weary whale]

Smeared joker exists

[stone shell]

usually i dont take ante 1 rental eternals but i thik this guy has a good case

[vocal rose]

I uh

don’t think so

[tranquil cargo]

at least check the pack first

[vocal rose]

you should open that buffoon pack

[hasty onyx]

That thing $1 for a reason

[vocal rose]

like you WILL probably lose your run if you take that

if it was midas mask or rebate yeah it’s worth

[stone shell]

oops all rentals

[weary whale]

Reminds me of when I found this

Yes I took it

[vocal rose]

sixth sense value

[wraith iris]

rental 6th sense is always good

[stone shell]

yeah im kinda forced to take droll

[vocal rose]

take it and sell it before round ends

no?

[wraith iris]

i mean it's worse in a pack

[narrow scroll]

good on green deck

[vocal rose]

get value from sixth sense first

[wraith iris]

cause you already spent the money

[hasty onyx]

Takes 2 antes to give $4 and dies

Thats mint

[vocal rose]

and then sell it before you win

you can win round 2

[weary whale]

I mean when perishable cards go bad you can still sell it for money

[vocal rose]

it’s a rental

[weary whale]

Oh MB

[vocal rose]

but it pays out with a spectral card before the round ends so there’s literally no penalty or cost for taking it

other than death ofc

[errant bolt]

It'd be good for early game if it weren't an eternal rental

I'd say no for the fact that it's eternal alone tbh

[vocal rose]

if it was just rental

one or the other it’s worth taking

but not both

[stone shell]

i mean it still has polycrome so itll marginally help

[vocal rose]

not with zero econ

sixth sense is still the play

[hasty onyx]

Yeah thats gonna take up space and drain you of any econ for all of early game

[vocal rose]

the space isn’t the problem it’s just the econ part

[stone shell]

found my econ

shoutout to rental riff raff

[vocal rose]

lucky find

nice

[wraith iris]

man, it would be cool if perishable jokers were somewhat discounted

[vocal rose]

when your run ends give me your seed

[wraith iris]

like 25% or 50%

[hasty onyx]

Woah there bucko

[wraith iris]

the other two joker modifications have niches where they make the joker stronger

but perishable doesnt :(

[vocal rose]

it allows for some jokers to be stickered easily ig

[wraith iris]

rental is stronger when you only want the joker for one round, you can buy and sell it for net 0 dollars

[stone shell]

reserved locked in and hit 7/7 faces

[wraith iris]

and eternal is better with madness, hex, and anhk

[stone shell]

wtf

[uneven laurel]

Localthunk confirmed 8 year delay 😔😔

[weary whale]

Minecraft & Balatro

The only two games where asking players for their seed is acceptable

[fiery pier]

Ruined the game for me

[uneven laurel]

And like... 80% of other o
Roguelikes lol

[tranquil cargo]

weren't they already confirmed siblings?

[stone shell]

i didnt say anything but i think its a good time to mention the sixth sense earlier gave a sigil and now i have 18 spades in my deck

probably worth taking

[weary whale]

“Blueprint, Hanging Chad, Photograph! You all only use three jokers in this game!”

[fiery pier]

Because photochad is fucking awesome

[stone shell]

whos hanging chad

[fiery pier]

Ballot

[serene forge]

i dont

[stone shell]

i only know hanged man

[serene forge]

because i'm not a noob

[tranquil cargo]

not even visible from the back against amber acorn, hanging chad is literally unplayable

[vague elbow]

its so funny when ppl call hanging chad ballot

[weary whale]

Ik but everyone I see uses it

[vague elbow]

i mean tbf it does say ballot in big letters at the top

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[fiery pier]

I just said ballot bc the guy asked who's hanging chad

And like yeah ballot is easier to identify

[vague elbow]

ik. but i see people call it that sometimes

[weary whale]

Bloodstone is good on checkered deck at least

[robust lance]

hey hanging chad and blueprint deserve to be there. photograph is the leeching unemployed cousin that swears they'll leave when they get a job but never ever get one

[fiery pier]

Oops! No bloodstone hits

[vague elbow]

bloodstone is good on every deck 50% of the time

[weary whale]

[vague elbow]

nothing goes together better than bloodstone and oops! all sixes

[robust lance]

i know this because whenever I have hanging chad (in any scenario, it helps with any on score effect) photograph just has the audacity to appear in my slots

i dont even buy it, it just appears there

[vague elbow]

hanging chad nerf: it's renamed to ballot so that you can't make a cool name with it and photograph anymore

[stone shell]

were you talking to me when you said this

[vocal rose]

yes

[fiery pier]

Ballograph sounds cool

[robust lance]

ball is life they say

[stone shell]

yeah i died because i forgot in ante 4 my flush doesnt one shot

GJC25HVS

[ancient gyro]

i guess bro

[serene forge]

nope

[ancient gyro]

flushes tend to do that

[serene forge]

checkered is a pair deck

[stone shell]

what did you want the seed for anyway

[ancient gyro]

-apandah

[uneven laurel]

This bloody game

Will look you straight in the eye
Give you 3 card sharps by ante 3...
And then show serpent as the boss blind.

[drowsy rain]

Card Sharp is the worst card but the best card

i cant explain it

[vague elbow]

... does serpent negatively affect card sharp?

[fiery pier]

The oh so reliable luchador that never appears when needed

[vocal rose]

no

[weary whale]

You get the same amount of each rank card so there’s no advantage of going for pair in checkered deck compared to the others

[stone shell]

yes-ish?

[drowsy rain]

He’s thinking of the eye

[vague elbow]

did you mean the eye lol

[stone shell]

it depends on the build

[vague elbow]

yeah

[knotty zodiac]

it's guaranteed needle

[ancient gyro]

oh

[vocal rose]

how

[fiery pier]

Jesus christ

[vague elbow]

showman moment

[ancient gyro]

wild guess

[stone shell]

bro is too sharp

[fiery pier]

That looks like hell

[harsh relic]

looks amazing

[drowsy rain]

I’m gonna take a wild guess and say that is a… flush five build

[ancient gyro]

pairs

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[drowsy rain]

oh no my sarcasm didn’t get through

[serene forge]

there is

[novel rain]

Really need to thin my deck some more (and I desperately need to upgrade my cards)

[serene forge]

do you know what makes a pair good

[robust lance]

throwback carry

[ancient gyro]

big balls

[serene forge]

skill issue plant doesn't counter photochad

[weary whale]

Very much lmao

[serene forge]

also deserved for skipping ten fucking rounds

[robust lance]

eeetts eaisau to draah

[vague elbow]

it's spammable

[stone shell]

we need that 3.5x throwback

[vague elbow]

throwback is probably my least favorite joker ngl

[serene forge]

real

[ancient gyro]

spirit animal

[robust lance]

its my favorite

[stone shell]

throwback really needs to be changed so its based off how many tags are used

[weary whale]

You say that like Obelisk doesn’t exist

[balmy gulch]

How does invis choose which joker to copy

[stone shell]

for the double tag synergy

[stone shell]

any joker you own at random

[robust lance]

it gets buffed to x.35 per skipped ante

and thats it

[balmy gulch]

Nah it's not random. That's what I'm asking about

[vague elbow]

throwback doesnt need a buff its a good noobtrap

[weary whale]

It’s predetermined by the seed, but you can rig it to where you only have one other joker so it has no choice

[vague elbow]

it is random lol

[ancient gyro]

reverts last throwback nerf

[balmy gulch]

What random function does it use to make its random choice

[robust lance]

one time i bought a joker and it targetted a different one when i sold it

[balmy gulch]

What pseudorandom* function

[stone shell]

i think he means like if the ante changing changes what it copies

and other gimmicks like that

[vague elbow]

ah

[robust lance]

i think i wanted to copy business card, it hit dice, bought a random common and when selling invis it hit business

[serene forge]

you check all the boxes for a big noob

[drowsy rain]

An invisible joker is an invisible joker but a judgement can be anything. It can even be an invisible joker

[stone shell]

plantface got nothing on hanging chad glass

[balmy gulch]

I just did a bunch of savescumming with my joker setup, selling jokers and then invis, and seeing what I got. And I can't parse how the choice is made

[weary whale]

That I don’t know. I just remember that there was a seed breaker that figured out that if you wanted to get a duplicate Blueprint, you had to get rid of the one you bought in a run and buy it again when it appeared later because it would only copy that second one

[stone shell]

if i had to guess it just chooses a target and every time the joker lineup changes in anyway it picks a new target

[cloud sinew]

It chooses a random* joker from your slots. It can only change the target when you increase or decrease the # of jokers, or the target joker isnt there

[stone shell]

i remember one time i ankh'd with a full roster and got chicot but when i sold everything but the eternal burglar i got the burg instead

[balmy gulch]

What if I decrease the number and then increase it back to the original

[weary whale]

Same vein as “There’s always a credit card in the Buffoon pack”

[cloud sinew]

It doesnt change

[vocal rose]

I love vampire

[stone shell]

i hate vampire i cant gamble with lucky cards

[vague elbow]

vampire provides a fun challenge

[ancient gyro]

mhm ok

[serene forge]

I hate Photograph

I love Obelisk

[ancient gyro]

how original

[robust lance]

i love money i hate (typically looked down upon real life issue)

[serene forge]

I hate Bootstraps

[stone shell]

usually those 2 jokers in those statements are swapped

[vague elbow]

i have no opinion on obelisk because in my countless runs i have literally never found a situation where it is useful and i have the space for it. countless runner runs, countless square runs, and i have literally never found an obelisk in any of them

[stone shell]

great take

[serene forge]

not for me because im not a noob

[ancient gyro]

oop

[hasty onyx]

i love money i hate having no money

[serene forge]

i love my gf

[vague elbow]

squoker and groker my beloved

im always riding the bus

hologram? yes please!

[weary whale]

I’m sorry but if Balatro is a game where deck building and maximizing a certain hand type is the most viable option to get past Ante 12 & there’s a joker that only grants its power the longer you play without using that previously mentioned hand type, then I’m not gonna look fondly on that specific joker

I’m not saying the card is never useful, I’m saying it’s very situational and therefore not that viable to me

[wraith slate]

constellation is goated though

[vague elbow]

waiter waiter more hologram and constellation runs

[serene forge]

why do you need to get past ante 12

the game ends at ante 8

[balmy gulch]

Obelisk is the best joker that I will never use.

Bloodstone is the worst joker I will always use.

[ancient gyro]

fortunately obby licks fits in the pair lobotomy meta

[wraith slate]

did you know that constellation has floating point error around x70 and x290

great joker

[weary whale]

There’s literally a voucher locked until you get past Ante 12 for the first time

[stone shell]

i swear every time hologram appears in the shop for me its a rental and my econ is literally on its death bed

[serene forge]

wrong

[ancient gyro]

voucher*

[fringe nebula]

voucher*

not joker

[robust lance]

thats like a bajillion planets

[weary whale]

That’s what I meant

[vocal rose]

most effective amber acorn

[hasty onyx]

Isnt that 700 planets at least

[balmy gulch]

That's very situational tho @weary whale

[robust lance]

BANANA SLAMMA!!!!

[stone shell]

who would be able to use 690 planets in a normal game though

[fringe nebula]

besides, getting to ante 12 is not that bad because you can just play on white stake

[weary whale]

Is it? Yes. Do I still want it so I can have a complete collection? Also yes

[hasty onyx]

me because i have so much aura

[ancient gyro]

don't forget to move your erosion to the left 🗣️

[wraith slate]

nobody, but like the thought is what counts

[vague elbow]

tbf, if you don't want to use obelisk you really don't have to. there's plenty of other, more common, scaling xmult jokers. like. hologram and constellation. lol

[serene forge]

terraria has an achievement to drink water while drowning, therefore water is a good healing item

[vocal rose]

“more common”

[weary whale]

Astronomer Joker

[robust lance]

and yet theres no lava drinking equivalanet

this means lava is NOT a healing item

[vague elbow]

yes?

[balmy gulch]

Obelisk is actually good but it changes how I want to play so it's actually poopoo garbage

[serene forge]

depends

[ancient gyro]

terraria has a secret seed perfect for fishermen like zebra

[serene forge]

if you want to win you do have to use it probably sometimes

[vocal rose]

if you’re trying to win you don’t hold out x mult like that

[stone shell]

at the absolute maximum you are finding 81 mega planet packs in the whole run 😭

[hasty onyx]

I could have 2 oops all 6’s and space joker STILL wouldnt do shit

[serene forge]

remove bloodstone from tyhe game

[vocal rose]

and also finding an individual joker is rare

[serene forge]

skill issue

[hasty onyx]

What does space joker even do

[stone shell]

well 83 including the one shop before the kill blind in ante 39

[vocal rose]

I think it’s a 4/4 with two dices

[ancient gyro]

nothing 75% of the time

[vague elbow]

i mean i agree if it's the option you get I'd take it. but it's not like the end all be all

[hasty onyx]

Yeah exactly

[vocal rose]

it can be

[stone shell]

ah wait forgot to multiply by 3

[wraith slate]

like look at this beauty

[hasty onyx]

Why isnt blueprint compatible with oops all 6’s i feel like that would make sense

[wary zodiac]

guess i'll win

[stone shell]

thats a lot of blueprints

[wary zodiac]

what a start

[stone shell]

blueprint cant copy skilled gambling

[stone shell]

its simply out of his resume

[ancient gyro]

doesn't work on passives

and end of round econ

[vocal rose]

passive effects don’t work with copy jokers

[wary zodiac]

hell yeah

[vague elbow]

so basically oops all sixes doesnt trigger. blueprint only copies jokers that trigger, when they trigger

[serene forge]

what the FUCK are you doing

[wary zodiac]

im planning on going for naneinf

[vague elbow]

(except for end of round jokers)

[wary zodiac]

winning

[ancient gyro]

tryna be vayn

[stone shell]

its a bloodstone run

featuring photochad

[wary zodiac]

photochad bloodstone

🥹

[serene forge]

ewww....

[stone shell]

bloody photochadstone

[vague elbow]

i just noticed the two ante 5 investment tags

[ancient gyro]

for the next 4 rounds

[serene forge]

did you notice the ante 5 round 5

[wraith slate]

and like this is great

[wary zodiac]

bloodstone oops all sixes yuri

[serene forge]

trash yuri

[stone shell]

yes i know the holographic showman is awesome im a showman fan myself

[weary whale]

Double tag FTW

[vague elbow]

hey i dont judge. you wanna fullskip you can fullskip i guess

[serene forge]

I hate Showman

[wraith slate]

take a guess what the ankh roulette hit

[stone shell]

mustve been showman

[drowsy rain]

They’re clearly talking about the ankh value their about to get

[vague elbow]

a negative showman makes it so that no cards appear in the shop

[weary whale]

Full skip is how I completed the Fragile challenge run

[fringe nebula]

"here, win"

[vague elbow]

makes sense

[stone shell]

negative showman makes it so no cards you own can appear in the shop

[wraith slate]

sadly not quite so interesting, hit the crafty joker, crafty is his name and game

[stone shell]

trust me

[hasty onyx]

Would negative blueprint take away an ability

[vague elbow]

yeah

it debuffs the joker

[drowsy rain]

Oh wait you actually used the ankh

[stone shell]

doesn't copy the joker to its left

[wraith slate]

definitely, I definitely didn't get a ante 39 run off of a nat negative showman and burglar

[wraith slate]

what else would I have done lol

[wraith iris]

surely i find something funny and get this to work

[drowsy rain]

I thought it was funny

[balmy gulch]

Me when negative Mr bones kills me if score 4x the requirement

[stone shell]

finally a wheel that works

[upper spade]

Turns out my mac and home PC didn't save the same file.
So...
Frick you, Flint.

[stone shell]

(itll only hit foil)

[wary zodiac]

wheel ain't gonna hit no matter how many oops all sixes you have buddy

[vague elbow]

are you looking to break every glass card

[drowsy rain]

Me when negative chicot disables all my jokers and cards

[wraith iris]

ig so

[vague elbow]

wdym? wheel hits 1/7 times, 4/7 is pretty high odds

[wary zodiac]

good luck on the bloodstone!!

[ancient gyro]

instant deck fixing

[vague elbow]

bloodstone is a 1/2 btw. you dont need more than one oops for it

[wary zodiac]

wait holy shit yeah, it turns justice into a worse hanged man

[fringe nebula]

time to deckfix with glass

[balmy gulch]

Negative certificate stealing cards with seals from my deck

[wary zodiac]

the second oops is just for the silly rhough

[vague elbow]

4/2 chance. it triggers twice

[stone shell]

with my luck bloodstone aint hitting with 3 dice

[wraith iris]

i geninunely cant tell if you're trolling lol

[bleak blaze]

Chat what tarot card do I take here

[weary whale]

When I did the Fragile run, I came across like 5 separate WoF’s so I managed to get all of my jokers upgraded

[fringe nebula]

the moon

[wary zodiac]

5 foils

[vague elbow]

was a joke - cause theres a boss blind called the wheel

[wraith iris]

ahhhh

[bleak blaze]

OUTSTANDING CHOICE!

[stone shell]

ah tough call, probably empress and moon

[wraith iris]

wait does that boss wreck me?

[vague elbow]

depends how much flipped cards wreck you

[ancient gyro]

depends if you save scum or not

[weary whale]

IIRC It was 2 Holo, 2 Polychrome, and 1 Foil

[bleak blaze]

Nat Neg Showman was clutch with the extra cat and levels in Flush House

[vague elbow]

there should be oops! no sixes which makes all probabilities fail. /j

[drowsy rain]

It’s called sports betting

[fringe nebula]

combine that with glass cards

[stone shell]

showman is a great joker with no downsides

[bleak blaze]

NANNERS

[drowsy rain]

Has anyone made a reskin of oops so it’s the captain crunch cereal

[vague elbow]

combine it with a cavendish to get that 1/1000 insurance

[weary whale]

I can’t think of any off the top of my head, is there a joker that gives anything for playing the same hand type multiple times in a row?

[bleak blaze]

Gow many Cavendishes have popped on you guys?

Ive had 2 in 2 years

[stone shell]

technically supernova?

not in a row though

[vague elbow]

um, card sharp

[tranquil cedar]

the triple potassium build

[vague elbow]

not in a row, i guess

[drowsy rain]

Card Sharp but no one likes him

[vague elbow]

card sharp and supernova are the closest youll get

[stone shell]

0 so far

[upper spade]

That should be it.

[vague elbow]

ive never had a cavvy pop on me

[stone shell]

the misprint wil give 0 mult and kill you

[ancient gyro]

all common hand scalers, card shark, space, obby licks pre pivot, tdl

[stone shell]

gg

[upper spade]

I was so close.

[drowsy rain]

L misprint value

[weary whale]

That could be a good Joker

Parlay Joker; Get (certain perk) if played hand type is played consecutively, resets id a different one is played

[stone shell]

i didnt actually mean that

[upper spade]

It was either that or sell one joker.

[wraith iris]

it'll do

[stone shell]

my bus looking a bit different today

[wraith iris]

also, why does seed money even exist on green deck?

[vague elbow]

bait

[drowsy rain]

The thing is if you were making a commitment to pairs it would just be the cooler supernova

[tranquil cedar]

ride the train

[vague elbow]

maybe it could be money

[tranquil cedar]

to the moon:

[wraith iris]

does that work?

[glad viper]

bombler jumpscare

[vague elbow]

to the moon and seed money have no interaction.

[tranquil cedar]

no 😭

after all, theres no interest

[stone shell]

i mean im interested in green deck sometimes

oh you mean the money one

[vague elbow]

greck

[wraith iris]

that's not true, right? i mean on green deck they both do nothing, but to the moon gives you 10 gold instead of 5 if you have seed money and enough gold, right?

[drowsy rain]

Green Deck is just the average minimum wage day to day worker

[vague elbow]

huh?

no no

[upper spade]

P a i n.

[vague elbow]

to the moon adds one dollar of interest for every 5 dollars you have. if you have 100 dollars it adds 20 dollars of interest. it doesn't interact with existing interest or interest caps.

[drowsy rain]

Was this pre or post 41 odd todd

actual question btw

31

[oak elbow]

Can anyone help me get sorta better at balatro, I’m on blue stake and I keep losing around ante 4-6

[wraith iris]

that's not true, it is limited by interest caps

you cant get more than 5 from it

if you dont have anything else

[vague elbow]

wait

am i misremembering

[wraith iris]

you can check the wiki if you want

[drowsy rain]

No it caps

[weary whale]

31

[vague elbow]

im sorry i may be spreading misinformation

[drowsy rain]

And the cap goes up with seed

[vague elbow]

huh ok

thats my bad

[drowsy rain]

I think it’s just that if you had 100 dollars then to the moon would have you in the thousands in a few rounds

[vague elbow]

ok i guess to the moon does nothing on green deck??

[weary whale]

But this here is still one of the coolest things I found a seed for

[ancient gyro]

never did

both are just paperweight on green

[vague elbow]

its kinda funny that they technically have anti synergy with each other

cause canio wants you to murder faces and trib wants you to play them

[drowsy rain]

Jack slaughterhouse

[terse dock]

but hit the road

[vague elbow]

hit the road when shoot the moon shows up

[drowsy rain]

Perkeo copies cryptid and hanged man

Boom jack killing farm

[vague elbow]

yorick just standing there like i just got here

[stone shell]

canio rewards you for killing your jacks

trust

[weary whale]

Meanwhile Triboulet is starving to death

[vague elbow]

triboulet has no benefit from playing jacks tbf

[drowsy rain]

Trib gets too many runs

[weary whale]

And Chicot is out there being the Chi-goat

[drowsy rain]

It’s Canio time

[vague elbow]

chicot doesnt need autotune

[fringe nebula]

we can't help unless you show us your gameplay

[oak elbow]

Should I screen record a run?

[strange delta]

Is C++ achievement gold sticker for every deck?

[ancient gyro]

c+*

[weary whale]

Gold sticker on every Joker

[fringe nebula]

you can also give us the seed ig

[oak elbow]

Okay

[drowsy rain]

I do not multiply mult. I do not give money. I do not deck fix. I DISABLE THE BOSS BLIND. And if there is no scoring jokers, then we DON’T WIN.

[fringe nebula]

blue stake is rough yeah
-1 discard changes alot of things

[vague elbow]

the humble glass red seal level 40 pair build

[drowsy rain]

Allat glass red seal and you waste it on PAIRS

disgusting

[vague elbow]

you can play like 5 of them

[fringe nebula]

hey, anything to win 8 antes run

[weary whale]

“I’m gonna do a unique, fun run today!”

The awaiting build of only red seal steel kings with Baron & Mime jokers

[fringe nebula]

do a mime fist build

or mime STM build

[ancient gyro]

almost had one

[vague elbow]

those are not "builds"

[drowsy rain]

“I will play straight today”
The humble spare trousers:

[eternal pumice]

[vague elbow]

do spare trousers make you gay?

[ancient gyro]

what, yes they are

[weary whale]

Holy shit Gros Michel

[fringe nebula]

they are?

[drowsy rain]

Idk let me check

[eternal pumice]

Hi:D

[vague elbow]

well they can be but they're probably things you're gonna pivot out of

[ancient gyro]

um

[fringe nebula]

doubling down is the way

[ancient gyro]

generally you dont for the niche it serves

[cosmic sun]

Rare moment where Baron does something (still carried by Yorick)

[ancient gyro]

my baron could've done something

[oak elbow]

Hey I just lost a run and “M1I24ZVR” was the seed

To ante 4

[fringe nebula]

blue stake what deck

[oak elbow]

Yellow

But how would this help me get good

[drowsy rain]

speculative photochad

[vague elbow]

tje secret to yellow deck is to blow your entire $10 on shop 1 /j

[oak elbow]

I do that

🫩

[drowsy rain]

The secret is to click the menu button and start a run with a superior deck

[oak elbow]

Like?

[drowsy rain]

I’m joking

[oak elbow]

Also I’ve just gotten luckiest on yellow

Yea but what’s your favorite

[drowsy rain]

Zodiak

Or ghost

[oak elbow]

Interesting

[unreal topaz]

tbf when mime is there it can easily become just a mime+blue seal+steel card build

[drowsy rain]

Let me try the deck too

[oak elbow]

Do you guys think every run is winnable

[light brook]

hard to say, we had this discussion in general earlier today with think actually

[unreal topaz]

yeah

with perfect information yeah

[oak elbow]

Yea

[light brook]

there’s 2 trillion seeds (roughly) and we’ve discovered and won/played about 0.1% of them

[ancient gyro]

how did you know