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+10 mult for dagger lezz go
Do I go for the photo
Honestly Iām starting to think that resetting for a good joker isnāt even enough anymore.
I think I need to reset for something even more specific.
Probably good since you must have a lot of levels in x or y hand
Income is the biggest issue here. With all blinds giving you much less money, you need an income joker.
now i can just score my glass spade kings forever š
plant is easy if you actually plan
Level 27 flush
I sell odd Todd or dna right
Sell DNA or odd, you got plenty of use out of DNA by now
Ć got dna late
Yeah the only way to do this is reset until you get bank card, golden, or cloud 9.
I had none of those on the run im on now
and im on gold stake
Yeah to do it without those requires some ungodly amount of luck with the draws and that just dosenāt happen.
I naturally have bad luck. Always have.
Gamble more
You can defo get harmed by luck but, gold stake has been proven to be pretty consistently winnable, there's nuance to discarding and using hands to also discard that you might not have yet
copying DNA because im certain i win with a high card if i copy chad
Luck has nothing to do with it
Why is the screenshot a link?
Where embed
Thats a you issue
Bruh⦠saying that for a game that is entirely built off RNG is wild xD
I suppose it is
It isnt
there is a runner in this shop
no you don't
Do you think "luck" is why you die? do you think youre so much "unluckier" than the best players which is why youre losing?
you should learn to play around suboptimal circumstances
When I lose its because I fucked up. Luck has basically nothing to do with it
not every run will just hand you rebate bus in round 1
It does
No, luck is just RNG. You donāt get the hand you need, you donāt get a joker that is useful, you donāt get a taro card to stay alive, it all comes down to RNG. You donāt win if you donāt got luck.
How?
Some times
luck is a factor obviously but usually not the reason you die
No u donāt
Etc
You can account for all of those
what do I sell
good play will overcome shitty luck if your goal is to just win
there isnt a single unwinnable seed that has been found yet
Ok well that's too rough I think, there are situations where luck will affect you badly, balatro is about lessening the avenues of that happening and gaining more control Of your draw over time
and also
You are NOT going endless. DNA.
Bruh. Doing so results in death. Like starting with $2 isnāt going to result in a win.
this is why consistency is key
You will have worse runs, yes, but that does not mean that "luck" is why you died
No it doesnt
you don't have to worry about eating shit to bad luck if you minimize the effects of luck on you in the first place
Is this "Luck"?
There is no possible way as far as I know to ensure 100% of the time you start a game you start with a hand that can win in 1.
good thing thats not the win condition then
That is where most runs die
no it isnāt
This run im doing rn for example; i made my faces Spades because Ive seen the goad, and ive already faced plant so i can fully commit to faces. Im keeping at least one slot free so Im fine against Verdant Leaf, etc
Ante 5
You dont need to one shot
Get a flush bro
What the f
It doesn't matter if every seed might or might not be beatable, Amphy's experience leads them to believe luck is what is making them lose and I think having people completely denying the idea won't help them improve
I just Upgrade everything
amphy needs to lock in
Yes it will. Knowing that theres always something you can do is better than thinking it was out of your control
True
Luck and Strategy as well
I mean you donāt on black deck since 1 shotting is only $6 not 7. However it still comes down to if you get a joker that can save you from the next 2 rounds. If you donāt then itās likely dead there too.
Black deck kinda ass but it's still pretty navigable, you should be able to get a run past ante 2 to the end of the game
Js play flushes bro they can 2 shot a big blind and the boss blind if ur lucky
ante 1 should be doable without jokers without too much trouble
although hook and manacle do make that harder
Ultimately I think black deck can lead to the idea that the game is luck based when it limits your econ so much
Is that a melon wallnut profile picture?
Bruh⦠every run starts like this. Press play, look at cards, check if you have full house or straight, look at what type you have the most of, discard everything else, do it again for the 2nd discard, if fails reset, if flush play it and pray it 1 shots, if it dosenāt, reset.
Around 1 in 30 runs make it past this point and gets to shop 1 where you have the real RNG of getting a useful joker.
i hate ante 1 hook
Nah,bro really said āif you canāt one shot the blind you dieā
it's not productive to blame bad luck for everything
You don't need to one-shot bro
what's the follow up for that
You cant always
Yes you can
1 in 30 is greatly exaggerated
@glossy mortar is a big ol ragebaiter
I'm not defending it, it's bad for self improvement but I think amphy has been put on the defensive here?
All u need to do is look at balatro university to know itās just not true
Amphy said that 4% of runs make it past ante 1 lol
I canāt win every black deck start either but I know thatās largely a me issue and not the game
In that case I must be the luckiest person alive
Black deck is a hard deck, so I donāt blame people for losing it in the early game
Seed? Thats incredibly vague and kinda just means nothing
The runs that donāt are me being dumb
This, it's bad to blame luck but black deck is black deck
I mean you donāt on black deck since you only need $4 to get a joker. However having more than $4 means you can buy a uncommon if they show up. You canāt buy rares however which does suck but honestly dosenāt matter because most rares wont help you survive ante 1 or 2, they are there to survive the later antes.
glitched all planets seed is winnable on black deck gold stake, so no
Dude, JUST BUY AFTER THE BIG BLIND
I think you're putting too much weight on joker rarity here
you don't need a joker ante 1
You can win ante 1 without jokers most of the time, maybe you need some scoring help on the boss if it's a bad one
you can't buy rares round 1 on any deck but yellow or blue idk why we're talking about that
Green too
true
You can beat small blind on ante 2 at the most
you always have enough to buy the buffoon pack first round
Even with black deck you need to let interest build up for the first ante to stand a chance
so I wouldnāt reset if you donāt one shot the small blind
Spending at a minimum
even if you don't find a good joker you can get planets
Okay so lets say you do this. So you go in with $4 to round 2. You 2 shot it since thatās the best you can do. You only get $1. So now you have $5 in shop 2. You basically get a second chance at doing exactly the thing you did round 1, however you are in an even worse position because you are one round down.
a saturn or jupiter will make a1 boss much safer
You get $4 from beating round 2 minimum
The big blind gives you $4 already
Is this guy dumb
Yes and that is my strat. After I get past restart hell, I check the shop jokers, usually they suck so I take the pack, if that fails, reset.
are you resetting the run?
or dying
This is a skill issue, it isn't bad but you can defo go the first ante while piling up interest
True
Pick up a rental and sell it before the run ends, get a random planet from the shop if you need
I told you yesterday to not reset and to just power through until you die
sucky jokers like what
Depends on how bad the situation is.
Also that, you stunt your learning curve a lot by not playing failing runs, even if you don't win you get to possibly get experience
even if it may be less effective, its better for the mind and helps skill-wise
play until you die
Yeah this could be āsuckyā jokers like jolly joker
this is what im thinking
It can
Jolly
there is a VERY high chance he doesnāt know whatās good
Bruh. It already takes 5-10 minutes to find a seed that can get past ante 1. If I didnāt reset and just died on the boss over and over or died to round 4 which is the best you can do without any support, it would make every run take 4x as long.
Assuming you donāt skip the run, 4$ +2$ from the small blind hand size, then 4$ +1$ from hand left and the big blind thatās 11$ enough to get you out of a bad situation
It doesnāt take 5-10 minutes if you just keep playing
woah legendary gold sticker, im dropping photo
Instead of resetting
Pessimist final boss
dying on ante 1 is a horrible indicator
you can usually beat the boss without jokers, even on black
if you play well
are you on gold stake?
I GOT BETTER PHOTO
trib actually peak here
worst legendary stickered <3
Okay this is fair. I will change the plan then. Max 2 hands used round 1, skip round 1 shop, go all in on round 2, then pray for joker. See if it works. Iām willing to try anything at this point.
I'm gonna leave it here cuz I don't see this getting anywhere, amphy you need to just see runs through, try to get streaks of getting runs to ante 4 or so. consistency will help you
next attempt screenshot the shop
Max 2 hands used is also not good, just play until you die
Which shop round 1 or round 2?
yay broke a billion score
round 1
Do uou know that the first shop you encounter will guarantee to have joker, next shop, not as much
Guaranteed to have a buffoon pack, yeah
If you are unlucky, you may not get joker
there is so many things going wrong
blue stake btw
so no perishable rental
Yeah
I do know that, itās why my original plan had me taking the buffoon pack if the shop jokers sucked.
Donāt buy stuff until ante 2
wait what does the new discoveries tag mean?
this is bad advice
This doesnāt work on black deck btw
3 blue seals and my flush is at lvl 16
I thought it'd always be 0 now since I have all collectibles unlocked and seen
And shouldnāt be done on any deck that isnāt plasma or checkered usually
Then donāt run worst deck
You die before reaching ante 2
you should pretty much always be buying the shop 1 buffoon unless you find something better in the shop itself
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This is bad advice
on pretty much every deck actually
Holy Christ im getting fried rn
does the buffoon pack show up in shop 2 if you don't buy the first one?
No
No
No
oops ok then yeah
just because you can do ante 1 without jokers doesn't mean you should
I was gonna say maybe skip the first one
you just know that you won't instantly lose if thats your situation
Bruh Iām not listening to this xD the odds of any run making it no assist to ante 2 with any semblance of money to save you is almost 0. Iām just gonna try what that other person said.
That advice at least has logic behind it.
obviously getting a joker is better
is this the most optimal joker setup
Better if you can replace pants with extra retrigger
Man how am I getting roasted by the person who thinks 4% of runs donāt make it out of ante 1
99% of gamblers quit before getting to ante 2
Indeeed
i mean with the jokers i have now is this the best assembly
Theyre right for once
Yeah
Your red seal jack should be leftmost for most score
what
yeah i forgor
and i sell pants for verdant leaf right?
I mix up chad in vanilla and in multiplayer
Ride the bus is essential to abandoned scaling imo
dont buy stuff until ante 5 actually
Oh hey maybe I do get lucky
waste of mon6
Me on plasma Lolol
It was canio my manssss
never buy jokers waste of money smh
Whatās this SMALL GAY BEAN doing in my Balatro?!
Okay finally. After 3 deaths at round 2 i made it to round 2 shop xD ¼ chance to make it here sucks but technically is better than the 1/30 for passing round 1 no hands wasted.
raimbow... so cool...
You asked for shop here it is.
Rise the bus is the only option here.
I would normally take it.
3 DEATHS ON ROUND 2
genuinely how the fuck are you playing for this to be the stats
But my hand is in your control.
Just hit flushes wtf
Black deck is hard but not that hard
Yeah. Even using all hands i couldnāt find 2 flush, full house, or straights. Getting 2 of those in 1 round is extremely low odds. But still higher than a no hands wasted round 1.
Post the seed
What did this guy do to rngesus
Bruh Iām not even dead yet. Iām waiting for someone to tell me what to do xD
Should I just take the bus?
Buy best card
Take ride the piss
Hopefully michel doesnt hit the 1/6
Friends hello I have finally done it the culmination of many hours played I have unlocked gold stake on all decks
Ride the bus
bye business
Okay good so weāre in agreement what Iāde do is what should be done xD
Piss
BUS
Bus
Piss
Bus
Piss
good game goin
BUUUUUUUSS
Pissssssss
to do list thinks he's in the team
Mario
Buuuuuuuuus
Piiiiiiiisssss
yikerz
Okay boss was beat in 2 hands. Got very lucky ngl xD
RAHHHH POPCORN STICKER, BYE BONES
Not lucky
Piss scaled up
Holy shit
It helped
are you playing black deck for more joker slots for completionist++?
Im doing black deck only C++
Say bye to gross Michal
oh damn
Oh my god
So based on the advice Iāve been given in the past. Spectral is a big no. Arcana is imo too expensive, and both shop jokers suck, however if Iām willing to lose interest for the next 2 rounds, i can take gift card in the 1 in like 30 chance I pull a temperance.
are you fucking insane
Im just autistic
fair enough
How many runs for how many stickers so far?
Spectral actually worths it
Gift card is not it, you can probably just go to the next round and keep scaling, spend hands on the bus
I think Iām gonna listen to goblin here.
17 stickers in like 4 wins
not including this run
Yeah just scale
ya just gift card
thats it
niice, how often are you winning runs?
Why would they want gift card..?
for money
The moment they get that card temperance is going to gat banned
Okay welcome to shop 4.
Had to use all my hands and only barely survived with a pait making a few more chips than the 900 required but Iām her.e
Whatās ur bus at
maybe clever joker
Iām dead 100% next round without something though.
Probably about 20% of the time, used to be more consistent but ive only recently gotten back into playing a lot.
ya clever is needed I guess ?
Brainstorm, DNA, Trib, Popcorn and Bean stickered
Take clever
Take clever and scale best card
I personally would take clever here and go for 2 pair, even though i hate 2 pair a lot.
Two hardest stickers done in one run is insane
well 2 pair is fine
Okay sounds good. See you when i die or shop 5 xD
great for black deck people say
bean and popcorn are really good ones to get and both in same run!!!
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Iāve got two challenges to complete the last two dam they are both unforgiving
gigantic hologram
Gigantic deck
How many cards does bro have
Something Iāll never hear š¢
Good
Gigantic deck is crime
Youve not committed crime
Shop 5. Bus at 7 now.
@ancient gyro š
I feel 50/50 on if i can beat next boss.
bones ?
id say just go next
However overstock is a huge option here.
Not now
Done any deck fix?
i had a certificate
I need to gold sticker the 2 jokers
You want to use all your hands with bus
I wouldnāt take overstock until I was confident I could survive and stuff
Bruh where am i pulling taros from xD
animal well reference!
Bboard
woah
I will go next and pray.
bones seems good if you think youāre gonna die
sell tcard?
This run was awesome and felt very rewarding
Im hunting for gold sticker so
do you have all your gold sticker legendaries
why pray when you can win next round guaranteed with bones :?
I dont got a saved ass seed but you can literally die small chip due to bad draw
Yeah
And that is not the worst seed ever?
yeah makes sense then
Welcome to shop 6.
What is the worst seed ever then
do you have a worse one
space joker pls .
Space
Really?
Yes
yeah
Midas mask for the synergy
space joker goes good with pair spamming
One that you literally lose insta small blind or ante 1?
overstock seems nice this ante
Space joker and try to go for two pair for it possibly
I would take arcana
Bruh.
rtb and midas maskšš
does hologram lose value when u use hanged man?
Thats not a specific seed...
I think u should go for 2 pairs in thus build
Watch two pair explode and not proc until 3 antes from now
no
Ni
CHIGOAT
ok
Space joker explode
i'm more likely to die because a grand piano fell out of the sky onto me
black deck full of adventures and whimsy
than for a seed like that to exist
Find me any seed that meets this criteria
Okay well Iāll take space then. I rarely ever do but fine.
cool
It can happen, like it or not it is a chance Game, you can only reduce the luck factor, exactly why deck fixing exista
Prep to commit to One hand
i just saw someone say double tag is s tier because it's the blueprint of tags and blueprint is the best jonkler
It can? Proof?
There still the chance, so RNG
today you will learn of how valuable it can be
do you have a single seed where it happens
id not then it doesnt matter
all talk no evidence
what is that logic
I dont save ass seeds
yikes
then you dont know that it can happen
bro
Actually that is impossible
dude got horsedšāļø
what's the point of this conversation again
There's a finite number of seeds, so no.
who keeps spamming those cringe reactions
me
woooo
Gg we tried
They say that you can only die by your mistakes and not because of bad luck
There was a rand total of no 2 pairs that entire round.
At least until the very last hand but that wasnāt enough.
Ik and?
JBU2IGD8
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Is it?
Oh thank you 
well yeah, that's how you minimize the dependency on the roguelike aspect of the game. good decisions reduces failure rate
Which means if a run doesnt exist in the seed space then it isnt possible to happen to you
the seeds must be in the quadrillions right?
Overall though yāall proved that it definitely wasnāt impossible to do a skip shop 1 and go run. Didnāt beat anything my strat before did. But Iāll keep trying it because why not!
Not even close, its ~2.25 trillion
It may exists, simply people havent search for it
Hell yeah, have fun
Question does anyone know how to fix being stuck on spectral pack opening screen? I was going to make it to ante 39 unseeded and now im stuck.
really? with the amount of things u can do it seems low
Yeah ik, most of the time you lose based on your decisions, however you can die while making perfect decisions
2 trillion is a lot. thats like 200 million times more runs than ive played
Ngl I was kinda hoping yāall would prove me wrong there and we could get to ante 5 for a new pb.
drat
People have searched for it actually, for like 2 years. Theres a program for searching for specific conditions in seeds
it was also a rental green in the buffoon round 1
yeah but like 2 runs could be the exact same but one might have a single joker foil and it counts as a different seed
Ik there is that program, i know about crimson Bean and everythinh
Just not draws
holy fucking shit
Can you give me an example of what card draws would be an impossible round to win
Oh btw, before someone says āI played poorlyā. The draw first was 2 pair but with face cards. I discarded all the faces and the low. No 2 pair so I discarded any 2ās since odds are now lowered and the face cards then low. Then i only played whatever was lowest odds from there until final hand when I got my first 2 pair to lose.
Did you ever reset bus
okay. that doesn't really disprove there exists an unwinnable seed. just suboptimal decisions in favor of a winnable seed. there has yet to be an unwinnable seed especially one as early as a1r1
im gonna regret this lmao
As far as I know. There is no way to actually predict what cards will come next so discarding ones that youāve already discarded/played are the best play.
You can with Misprint
it shows you the next card to be drawn
No lol. When I have bus, bus dosenāt get reset, unless i have bus just for a effect and it dosenāt matter for scoring.
and can be seen from the collection
It does?
there isn't lol
Yes
I am not doing that bullshit. That is beyond fucking annoying to do and would eat away hours of my life.
You just said there wasnt a way, and I told you a way.
not saying you should, just that its a way to see what will be drawn
No way!
I literally just had my first double legendary run LMAO
Holy fucking shit fine! Next time Iāll post misprint numbers then too and yāall can help me there. My god.
????
Yorick + Canio
rigged run fr
oh.
i got canio chigoat
Yeah
Goated
anger displacement 101
Im just telling you that it exists, why are you getting mad. I even said "not saying you should, just that its a way to"
god forbid autistic ppl giving a little advice
Without knowing it beforehand? I bet there are unwinnable seeds
Find one then
until then, there arent any known unwinnable seeds.
Human psycology
Thats not a card in balatro
well then it wouldnt be āunwinnableā
I can create one rq
do you have one
this is a closed ended question
Please do
also fuckkk its the tooth
I never thought that Iāde be told I have a skill issue for not using a bug/exploit before. Like genuinely thatās insane to me.
hey google remind me in 3 days
the misprint tech is most definitely intentional
I dont think anybody said this
I literally didnt say anything even close to that.
an easter egg as it were
also who told you that
I told you that it exists, there was nothing more to it than that
would it be so crazy
please show me where I said anything even close to insulting
balala players' reading comprehension š„
Small blind black deck you start with 4 clubs high enough to one shot already, however you dont draw any full house club or 3ok
You are dead
insert gif of guy at door with pizza smiling then second photo showing chaos and fire all over the room implying he walked in on some crazy shit
If itās intentional then the deck should just say what the next card is. The player shouldnāt be forced to menu to misprint every single hand you make then decrypt some obscure numbers to know.
straights?
Sheās asking for the actual explicit draw order
any two pairs?
You dont draw a straight
also give us the seed
this is how far I got (spoilers for others playing the seed)
guys does anyone please know a way to get as many vouchers as possible im missing the tier 2 hat and it makes me crazy
Do an endless run and take a voucher skip
Highesg two pair is 120 x3=360 You barely win and you wont be searching for two pair
Iāll do it though just for yāall.
go anaglyph and take a voucher skip
what did i walk into
They say luck cant lose you a runššš
it's only accessible for those who really want to minmax every single discard action. not needed for the majority of runs as there're not enough frequent factors that would result in a loss every time. just for when it's necessary which is fine enough
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Youre just going to move on from saying I insulted you and getting mad at me when all I did was tell you something exists? Im blocking you and im just gonna tell people to stop helping you if youre going to treat people like shit
for us? it's your runs you can play however you want.

I donāt really care
if theres a way then its not unwinnable
hi
first hieroglyph in your name looks like The Wall blind
told you they were ragebaiting
Ello
i actually had hope but whatever
heiroglyph š£ļø
get used to it, its Amphy ššš
No? Cause you dont know the draw order therefore will search the one shot and die? It is winnable but you lose out of bad luck
dual dungeons and no traps is actually so chill

if you can get past the blind in any way then its not unwinnable
Amphy is THE bad takes and being agressive about them person
Damn discord bugging rn
You say that at the same time as yāall saying that I could have won if I did that. How was I to know that? So the only way to know that is to do it every single had of every single game ever.
What is the full deck order? You cant know that you never draw a 3oak, straight unless youve actually shown that.
For me at least
not counting glitches I guess
nice
bruh
First off i wasnt talking about unwinnables simply that you can lose when playing perfectly (knowing the seed is not perfect play btw)
Second off i can build a lose seed in first ante too if you wanna see it, extremely unprobable? Yes
Possible? Yes too
jesus
Says the one who said I should be using that. Not even Spectre uses that. At least not in any video Iāve seen.
No yuri
okay yeah im out of here until we get back to being silly
lmao
I don't even know the parent conversation. im just saying this games meta isn't annoying to the point of needing to use misprint tech to win a majority of runs. just to gather intel in a hard pinch.
playing with misprint every discard is practically just playing the game at half speed while not being treated as well
a game
Show me where I ever said you should be using it, because I'm sure I never did.
Holy pairs are broken
Mmm gimmie some more pairslop
he's used it in a couple streak runs while doing c++ no losses
no one ever says you should be using it, its just a fun little easter egg-esque mechanic
just for information, not like oh hey here's free mult and chips
honestly you should probably just not use the word unwinnable idk 
That is my position too. Yet ai apparently have a skill issue still when taking every piece of advice everyone here gave me, basically letting yāall play the game for me. Results in a loss and instead of it being bad seed or bad luck. Itās because I didnāt use that bullshit tech.
ai?
ai???
y'all think i will get mime and baron :D?
sorry im just tabbed out of this conv
Oh really? I shall look that up later then. More-so to learn how to fo it since yāall require I do it for me to not have a skill issue.
I highly doubt it would have made a difference
where did any of us say that
we can apologize if you tell us where
Show where we said that please
or buy a drink
bro is just 𤬠šŖ ing
when im in putting words into others' mouths competition and my opponent is amphy
Gave yāall the seen and someone said it does so ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
but they did block me so idk maybe its real
idk man just dont listen to Amphy, they always come with bad takes and are always aggressive about them from my observation š as much as i would love to help people, amphy annoys me more than anything
amphy has come here nearly every day with terrible terrible takes and has never taken any advice or criticism with grace
atp it's just getting annoying not funny
Black deck, win in 3 hands small blind 6⬠6⬠jokers, two joker pack that contain 2 eternal rental useless joker, big blind, lets say you get lucky and win, 9⬠two 10ā¬+ jokers and same 2 ass joker pack, bad draw luck in boss and you are dead
The game is inherently luck based and you can lose due to bad luck while playing perfectly
WHERE? SHOW ME WHERE ANYONE SAID THAY
yeah true
they blocked all of us for horse reacting their bad takes lmaooooo
lilo w??
Simply run the seed back on plasma deck white stake and win, hence the seed is winnable
I kinda lost track with smth. What's going on?
lilo double u????
That doesn't even look like the makings of a Baron/Mime build 
nothing
lol
another rage bait case
tap and hold the message
hit copy message link
reply with given message
we will send apology letters and cake
i got too scared and used photochad
iāll wire amphy 1,200,000 dollars if I see the message
damn thats a whole violet vessel
i'll wire myself $20 if amphy says something that isnt a bad take
buuut if you look down-
violet vessel mentioned
Real
which one is better
You guys are being dumb on purpose? You then know the seed which defeats the purpose first of all
Second of all, the initial argument was that you only lose due to bad decisions and you can not lose due to bad luck
one sec
You guys are obtuse for the purpose of being as stubborn as you can
chat do i take the easy route
I thought the claim was claiming there was an unwinnable seed
Hologram is more fun than photograph
There doesn't exist a known seed where perfect play still loses the run. You claimed there is probably an unwinnable seed
blueprint cert
which has yet to be proven or outruled
nahhh
you said unwinnable and we said it wasnt unwinnable
you can lose due to bad luck SOMETIMES since some seeds reward bad decisions
claiming something we haven't found exist can only be said when there are infinite possibilities
but thats rare
nvm
which balatro certanly doesn't
Restart?
Shortcut
Wait that could actually work
shortcut and burnt joker is RIGHT THERE
except there's a finite amount of seeds so it's bound to be discovered hopefully before the heat death of the universe
I know my craft!
by perfect play do you mean with thorough knowledge of the seed or perfect play for someone not knowing the seed?
Either.
anaglyph orange stake now :nails:
either. the former for displaying the concept. the latter for proving that skill makes the majority of successful runs.
discover what? we don't even know if it exists or not
Fun runs +2 gold
So many little things people miss that fuck up their run
card sharp thinks he's on the team
You can prove it doesnt by searching every single seed
discovering if every seed is winnable or is there one discrepancy.

kinda crazy how there havent been discovered unwinnable seeds yet
There likely doesnt exist an unwinnable seed without using bugs
did thunk balance the game with some divine assistance or smth š
sts has a few but it also has like quadrillions of seeds and has 20 difficulties and its on specific characters
hmmmm should I gold seal baron or egg here
tempting again
sadly I can't sell an Yorick because the boss is Violet Vessel
fuel cat
Baron is a better sticker than egg
fr
tru
its rare and less viable
because it is unlikely
Nobody has even been able to theorycraft an unwinnable seed yet
this game has a pretty damn devious skill ceiling
so either it doesn't exist or finding it is so improbable that their argument doesn't make sense
yeah
considering we havent found one in 2 years
even crazier if you think that Thunk thought about a 10k prize for whoever finds one lol
lmfao?
are there any limits on how I can arrange the shop
okay, Popcorn and Baron done 
you should ping that guy again š£ļø
he said it in server chat lol
It has to be how the game works; so you cant be like "there is nothing in the shop", the shop must have stuff in it
I would probably put bunch of useless jokers, standart packs with no enchancements and vouchers that doesn't contribute scoring
nu huh
yeah good idea
what jokers would you fill the shop with
showmen
all showmen
showman doesnt work when its in the shop slots so youd still find other uncommons
If you had a bot playing balatro then you could narrow down the search a lot, have it search the seeds where it is really hard to get a win and then have humans manually search the seed, by a bot I mean something like a chess engine
Was scrolled up. In reference to finding Impossible seeds
make it so if showman is in shop his effect applies to the current shop
Golden needle is impossible bruh
thats not how the game works so doesnt apply here
and make everything showman
jus being silly š
thats all he ever does anyway
theorycrafting an unwinnable seed is pretty easy though
do it then
pretty much having a horrific consumable draw
be specific
Did Square Joker use to not be square shaped in older versions? Saw it being the regular card shape in a video.
or do we have to take reasonable shop weight into account
all temperances and wheels woth no jokers?
it used to not be square
you would be able to find other tarots by blocking temperance and wheel
oops, all hierophant!
blueprint
brainstrom
showman
invisible joker
golden ticket
astronomer
driver's license
shortcut
four fingers
golden joker
credit card
juggler
one that gives +1 discard
one that gives +2 hand sizes -1 hands
satellite
rocket
rough gem
I can go on but
least versatile planets and tarots
I feel like this is enough
that isn't specific
what planets, what tarots
not even that horrible early game, or if you cant find any chips source
in shop
Is this a good joker setup
only econ jokers, no tarots spectrals or planets in the shop, all standard packs with no enhancements, only tags that give money, only magic trick offered (then no playing cards in shop), then wait till the blind requirements exceed 4 flush 5s
mods are lurking.
if im forgetting something just add it to the list
Fascinating. Maybe the next version will include things like the hole in Chad when face down.
Winnable or nah?
so what happens when I buy magic trick?
truee but ass for late
oops
im not in the current vibe to write a text wall
illusion! jaja
rt can do it
okay now what
wtf
i sometimes throw it onto a couple of cards if my chips situation looks real dire
telescope and the 4 planet/tarot vouchers also do nothing if the shop is only econ jokers
i honestly never use it lol
and reroll/overstock/clearance sale
Discarded all my kings in possession for $100
Thatās over 8
i mean if something gives me it for free (emperor or any tarot gen) i might as well
im assuming the floor for an unwinnable seed has to be played on white stake right or
im dumb, meant buy it
Anyone ever die to forgetting how many hands you had left, while still having discards?
something about best credit card I've ever seen
Yes
yeah honestly not worth 3 bucks
an āunwinnable seedā thatās only unwinnable on black deck gold stake doesnāt sound very unwinnable to me
that was the bounty that localthunk talked about, white stake.
holy clutch
agreed
its allowed to be unwinnable on a specific deck
swag
I should score a lot on this right?
unwinnable without glitches/bugs is also an important part too
this seed is INSANE,nat negative sixes in ante 1
put your steel to the right of your queens
rest is handed to you on a silverplate
Ok I did
He gonna take le bloodstone
whats your opinion on rt's seed idea
had to sell the card to make the acorn a bit easier
only barely squeaked 300k on the round before without the bp lol
Really broke
last shop desperation roll credit card blueprint
and rental wee too early lol
arcana packs give:
temperance
hermit
the moon
the sun
the world
the star
the lovers
the hanged man
spectral pack gives:
sigil
talisman
ectoplasm
ouija
cryptid
immolate
shop: only jokers I mentioned (and similar ones that doesn't contribute to your scoring in any way)
shop only gives standart packs that doesnāt have any enhancements or seals
skipping tags:
double money
money per skip
investment
coupon
juggler
double tag
basically any that doesn't contribute to your scoring in any way
I don't remember any voucher that helps scoring but tell me if there is (and they will be banned)
are riff raff generations dictated by the seed as well? i wonder what is the seed where he generates the most negatives or performs the most mitoses
Hmm what's this for?
yes
everything is dictated by the seed
This is gona get alot of points in hope
How exciting
brainstorming to an impossible seed (no matter how unlikely it is)
letting it cook in my brain
Hmm I see
well maybe shop doesn't have to give you standart packs every time since arcana and spectral packs also doesn't contribute to scoring
"good ones" and its bloodstone
ramen is good tho
you dont have enough tarots in the pool to block every other tarot from appearing if you have crystal ball and overstock+
are you discarding a lot?
What do I switch out?
didn't someone make a pretty good video about the impossible seed puzzle that found a really funny bug seed
nothing dawg bloodstone is gonna betray you
nice
hmm let me see
how about we add devil and strength?
theres a seed which has only planets, or spectrals on ghost, yes.
is it still not enough?
that seems like enough to block
honestly maybe like scholar? do you rely on him?
Am I cooked?
holy fuck lmao
you can just have only one tag appear yk, tags don't block each other
ggs
double tag only would be the worst probably
this vid, right? https://youtu.be/8gm5qsNRDyA
0:00 Disclaimer
1:27 YouTuber Heel Turn
2:00 Pedantry Begins
3:35 Answer Becomes Meaningless
5:56 Still More Likely than Wheel Hitting
9:56 Oops I Forgor About Bugs
14:32 Side Effects
19:00 Shoopsy Daisy
23:10 Pack It In
25:54 Ew Math
31:50 Mask Off
33:25 The Tool (other than me)
38:11 Shop Manipulation
44:19 Draw OrderLUL
46:47 Conclusion
WYXk...
What do I play so I dont lose?
just for funsies. to do what they call call "mental gym" I guess
I'm happy with that
I find it fun to revise my game knowledges once in a while
e189 is a good highscore
a better way to find an always lose seed is probably wanted
yes, but it's still not unwinnable and even if it was it's caused by a bug
I was so close
I hate Bloodstone
yeah but I meant to provide it to give more context for the person that was trying to hunt on what had been previously attempted
ante 1 is always winnable. closest is manacle. so speculation was ante 2 wall, water or needle with seed searching for no scoring jokers. the problem with that is a lot of $, and a lot of ways to reroll jokers
I'd say hook is also if not a better contender
for run ender ante 1
knowing the seed, it's not possible to lose. hook let's you see another 6 cards, which can help
hook lets you see another 6 cards, manacle lets you see -1. 7 less cards seen in deck is enough to make it a bigger priority
there's no deck draw for worst case (black deck) that can't give you 600 points
manacle and hook are about the same difficulty ante 1 for mee
Is hologram joker any good?
this is for a "hardest"/"impossible" seed, not just how often people lose generally
don't get me wrong, if you don't know the seed, they can be terrible. but knowing the seed means knowing the deck order too
free win
difficulty wise yes. searching for unwinnable seed, hook digs through more of your deck with it being an advantage for searching an impossible seed
Opposite
Cool thanks

I have director's cut luckily
Insane typo
Good. Do you have $10?
this is sexy
Youāre sexier
I have money tree and some gold cards too lol, this is pretty much a perfect seed I'll drop it later
that guy is looking at your sun tarot
sadly its not needed anymore š
"why are you here?"-he asked
Im a dollar off oof
I sell the hex?
no
I love playing with my Wee
And put it on the rightmost part of your joker lineup
use it before ante 8
5 jokers left to gold sticker. Any guesses?
gros michel
+10 chips per face card ig. But yeah I was wondering the same thing too
showman
Well it's on white stake so
Close. Cavendish is one
yeah its fine ig
Nope
one of the stone cards
stoner joker maybe
Funny cuz I put gold sticker on gros first than cavendish
Stone yes. I have marble
cola?
ice cream?
Emperor into hermit
already playing with my wee
Whatās the optimal play here
Every chad plays with her wee
My hologram is x3 rn
Wheel actually hit for once lol
lobotomy be damned
Constellation is great for handing out free wins
Eye wher
constellation is really fucking powerful
polychrome burger+grimbo hard to lose with lol
on top of constellation
True
I know this since Iām actually in the constellation
Wanna double check real quick, how does invis negative work?
erosion value maybe
you would go down to 7/6 here
Jokers realy good that I have and I just got the mime
and then you can't take negatives until you sell a non-negative
Cool, so it still gives me the joker
woah neverknew thats how that worked
weird
its because invis doesnt check you have enough slots by including the negative edition
is it the only one that does this
riff raff won't generate two jokers if you were at 4/5 and the first one it generates is a negative
huh
gg :(
you have 1.5^10 right now, 1.5^8 if you lose seltzer
Play QQEB2ANV, super fun with nat negativesixes and blueprint and lucky cat coming up
Wait really
hypocrisy gaming
poly double pareidolia is the wildest shit ive ever seen
Oh so Iām definitely winning this ante 8
wait no
I was trying for it to hit a photo, but I didnāt sell it and got the wrong joker dupped
With the polys yes
1.5^8 rn, 1.5^6 without seltz
Still very good
invis is such a stupid fucking joker
But itās peak
Heās fun for shenanigans
Like a triple poly stencil run
funny guy
Why just why
shoudlve sold hex for interst
Me when 1 full skipped ante = 1x mult
I think I messed up
Correct. On anaglyph
don't you like skip once generally?
looks inside
wait
I skip a lot on anaglyph. Idk about the average player
oops ! all chad
Arenāt you meant to save the tags
chad council
roffle's middle son
i sense a photograph incomin
You can do whatever you want
you're meant to do what makes you win
sold it earlier for the bit
either I get baron or no mime, or mime and no baron
Will this kill me?
or both and get planted without any way to stop it
giga chad meeting
sell perishable hanging chad for 8 ball
you have no money
save up
If I were to take it
Will I have 0 hands ?
it would kill you as soon as you enter a blind
oh
yes, you would die
Oh š°
ohhhh
Because funny š¤
burglar?
Nah golden needle
oh rip
Why rental?
š I would still take it
they robbed you
This times a million. The only āwrongā move is the one that gets you killed
youd want it to be rental if it wasnt in a pack. id take to do list here
get your revenge
0 hands š°
You doomed us all
you're in interest range I think it's worth the gamble
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SCAM ALERT

btw whenever someone posts a scam message be sure to report their message to discord directly too
Oh wait I spent all my money thinking Iām about to die and the game just gave me another hand š
wowie itās another bot or a min wage spammer
unrelated but I got hit by a earthquake
discord doing anything but solving problems rn š„
for real?
yes
crwzy
interesting, is this a Golden Needle peculiarity?
hope you are alright
what the fuck are you okay!!?
Ig
it was a magnitude 4 bro
Oh thatās nothing
damn
Anything fall down?
It wasn't thats serious
magnitude 4 smol
i agree with what theyre doing with global age restriction, if you wanna talk more about it i'll move to a different channel
nah
oh, nice!!
ive never seen any earthquakes in my life
Alright good, hope you alright
Couches shaked
my country doesn't get hit by earthquakes so I'm not used to them lol
yea
unrelated but I got a huge glass cut on my two knuckles when washing glass cups
Dam
crazy
