🕹・game-discussion

[cosmic sun]

this is right after a similar run btw

[tropic widget]

that fuck ass joker was my 2nd to last gold sticker

[tepid lichen]

Why would u keep a neg 8 ball with invisible lol

[patent sail]

EXACTLY it just targets the worst option available like it knows

[tropic widget]

I forgor

either that or it copies baron

or worse, DNA.

same with ectos

[tepid lichen]

U know ur supposed to sell ur other jokers except for 1 so it doesn't rely on rng unless u HAVE to keep them

It's a good joker if u always do that

[tropic widget]

"unless you have to keep them" is what were talking about gang

[patent sail]

even if i sell random ass nat negatives bought for fun it still just targets the worst option there is

[tropic widget]

like if I find an invis in a baron run, it WILL copy my DNA

[tepid lichen]

Eh DNA can be sold out of depending on where u are

[tranquil jacinth]

I see this as a absolute w

[tropic widget]

ngl you cant really sell out of DNA until ante 25

[cosmic sun]

edging license again

[patent sail]

theres an ai built into the game that decides on the worst option to copy/ecto there is, thats why its so laggy on mobile ✅✅✅

[tepid lichen]

Oh well yeah if ur going all the way there

[serene forge]

I hate Photograph

[tropic widget]

ngl I feel like throwback should give you xmult for every tag used, so its goated on anaglyph deck and with soda

[glad viper]

i hate

[cosmic sun]

Very cinema runs tonight

[patent sail]

throwback should just not exist ✅✅✅

[tropic widget]

throwback exists purely for speedrunners

[tepid lichen]

And for ppl who suck at the game

and skip all the time

[lyric wave]

I don't think speedrunners even use throwback

[patent sail]

ante 1 investment tag:

[opal canopy]

It’s 1x multi every 2 antes if you only do bosses

[lyric wave]

delicious 1.25x mult

[viscid jewel]

tbh throwback should give you double tag when you skip a blind

[tepid lichen]

They use it if they get it cuz it's free xmult

[viscid jewel]

like a 1 in 4 chance maybe not every skiped blind tho lol

[tropic widget]

throwback gains 1.25x mult every skip no?

[patent sail]

thats what they said

[cosmic sun]

I hate throwing it back

[serene forge]

0.25x

[patent sail]

1x per 2 antes

0.25x per blind

thats so bad

[opal canopy]

It gains 0.25

[patent sail]

4x for full skipping is ASS

[cosmic sun]

Poopy xmult scaling for an extremely detrimental downside

[tropic widget]

yeah thats what I meant

throwback wishes it was as good as madness

[opal canopy]

Madness is ehh imo

[tepid lichen]

But if u think about it it's really 1x scaling in 2 rounds

[serene forge]

bloodstone trash

[tropic widget]

early madness is goated

[lyric wave]

rare good opinion from mrs bloodstone hater??

[tepid lichen]

So clearly it's very good

[primal heath]

madness ❤️ 1x per ante is so great

[lyric wave]

just get luckier I don't see the issue

[glad viper]

i like throw back

[tropic widget]

just getting xmult by clicking the select blind button

[opal canopy]

One d6 card later

[glad viper]

i dont like to throw it back

[tropic widget]

oh fuck its 5:30am

I balalala'd too much

[fickle mesa]

its too early to say it like that cmon now

i know 2024 sucked in a lot of ways but 2025 can be better

[fickle mesa]

what the fuck you know april too

[lyric wave]

what the fuck you're in the oms discord

[lyric wave]

and know april too

[fickle mesa]

okay im in there i havent said a word i dont think

[glad viper]

hoh

[tropic widget]

there is always an immolate in the ante 1 spectral pack if you believe hard enough

[glad viper]

but what if i don't want it

[lyric wave]

then you're wrong

you want it

[tropic widget]

then you deserve to die ante 2

[glad viper]

but what if i want soul card with yorick

and immolate is also in the pack

[lyric wave]

we both know it's gonna give you perkeo and you're gonna be sad

[fringe warren]

True but wraith is my favorite

[glad viper]

i like perkeo

[tranquil jacinth]

Yea the 2 times it gives you something decent

[fringe warren]

And not save scumming with it

[opal canopy]

Ur gonna get chicot

[fringe warren]

I'm not taking it all the time but probably way more than I should

[lyric wave]

you can't save scum unless it's a mega pack

in which case you could just get BOTH

(soul first in case of canio!!)

[glad viper]

i like every joker

[fervent wolf]

Repost

[glad viper]

even the bad ones

[glad viper]

good job

[fervent wolf]

Idk why I was doing whitestake lmao

[dense glade]

Beat the stake and got pretty far in free play

[deft sandal]

this is crazy, two nat polychrome in a roll, one from shop and another from judgement. Rough gem is from Hexing

[kind creek]

I can't really explain why, but this build feels like eating junk food. It's also my favorite.
does anyone else feel that?

[glad viper]

my pants have been ruined

with piss

[kind creek]

what ante 2 DNA+brainstorm does to a mf

[glad viper]

is

is the joke the spare trousers

[fervent wolf]

Nah it's the Steel Joker

[fickle mesa]

its because its not particularly good for you just like junk food

[kind creek]

does that
does that mean the build is good?

[fickle mesa]

and also it gives you a lot of energy (big numbers) but short longevity (easily dies to bad rng/bad boss blinds)

[glad viper]

yes

[fervent wolf]

Repost

[kind creek]

lucky cards + bloodstone no "oops! all 6s"?

Yea I see it

[deft sandal]

I got so many nat negative and polychrome without hones

[kind creek]

lots of 2s but still the entire starting deck in there, maybe a hanged man or two but not enough

[fervent wolf]

Me too

[glad viper]

my pants have been ruined

with slightly orange piss

[kind creek]

please go to a doctor.

[fervent wolf]

Wow

[manic zealot]

thank you for the detail

[glad viper]

my pants have been ruined

its gone

[fervent wolf]

What a pareidolia

[kind creek]

"it's gone"
Sacrifical dagger gained +8 mult

[woven spire]

hallo

[manic zealot]

cleb how was your ban

[glad viper]

my dihh is 4 dollars? 😭💔

[random ravine]

Might be a stupid question, but shouldn't I be going for baron here?

[fervent wolf]

Ride the Bus, it'll take a shortcut

[fervent wolf]

No

[woven spire]

It was a decent break ig not a ban tho lol

[manic zealot]

you know what I mean lol

[strange abyss]

if you take it there's a guaranteed plant on ante 7

[glad viper]

do it and ruin the run itll be funny

[random ravine]

💀

[woven spire]

yh yh dw

[deft sandal]

holy sigil

[strange abyss]

The plant smells a baron from 5 antes away

[glad viper]

my pants have been ruined

with air

[random ravine]

the plant shivers when chicot loses his temper

[strange abyss]

He is the one who knocks

[manic zealot]

ngl steel joker is pulling his weight rn

but it might have to do with all the tarots I'm generating with hallucination + brainstorm

[vale shale]

bing bong

[glad viper]

sh

[fringe warren]

The only scenarios in which I'd actually save scum is if I misclick or if I lose a very big gamble but most of the time I'll just face the consequences of my gamble

[lyric wave]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fringe warren]

The way I play balatro is very luck focused and often doesn't result in many wins

[vale shale]

gold stake black deck

[lyric wave]

a bloodstone player like myself, mayhaps?

[fringe warren]

I like to take risks as opposed to just being good at the game

[fervent wolf]

First player since me to use c--

[rancid niche]

Ooo a fellow checkered enjoyer

[fringe warren]

But the thing is that bloodstone isn't that inconsistent for me

I've had amazing bloodstone builds with no oops

[lyric wave]

it's a 50/50

oh sweet

[random ravine]

Back on this, its just cartomancer and rebate are getting a ton of value with blueprint, but like idk how it'll turn out if I remove my mult and/or chip joker

[visual linden]

made a bug report for my audio issue

[fringe warren]

I've had this for like 6 months I just don't talk here much anymore

[lyric wave]

thoughts on castle?

[visual linden]

gonna do some joker art in the meantime

[glad viper]

googoo

i taste the blood of my own actions

[fervent wolf]

For me, c-- means all jokers black stake or higher

[rancid niche]

Not too bad on checkered, it's actually quite good early

[lyric wave]

hell yeah okay you're a real checkered fan lol

[rancid niche]

I got c++ playing flushes on checkered

[lyric wave]

I've gotten like probably 107 or something of my 112 gold stickers on checkered

some using flushes, some not but y'know

[vocal rose]

good

[fringe warren]

Oh for me it means nothing but most of my stickers are black stake

[random ravine]

Castle = good

[lyric wave]

castle is very good on checkered and red deck, as well as before blue stake

[rancid niche]

It's literally the most fun deck, you can win with less jokers than you'd need on other decks

[vocal rose]

castle is good in general

[fringe warren]

Flushes and high card are probably my most used hands but Pluto is probably my most used planet card

[manic zealot]

I honestly still fw it on gold stake

[vocal rose]

on gold stake too

all decks

[lyric wave]

castle will consistently get me significantly more value than runner, which is considered one of the best chips generators

[vocal rose]

yes when you’re on checkered

in a fixed deck

it will perform better

[rancid niche]

Yeah I don't know why people hate it all that much, last night I realized it's way faster than square joker

[opal canopy]

Uhh I run straights all day everyday

[vocal rose]

it’s not way faster than square joker

[opal canopy]

300 chilies

[fervent wolf]

Castle is W

[vocal rose]

runner and square are above castle comfortably

[lyric wave]

straights are cool n all but by the end of my checkered runs, my castle is 600+

[rancid niche]

Maybe not on the abandoned or checkered deck though

[glad viper]

my pants are ruined

with the water drowns the innocent

[fervent wolf]

Why

[manic zealot]

two pair runs are fun, this one was in the bag the moment I got uranus in the telescope

[glad viper]

yes

[lyric wave]

okay ngl runner is significantly better than castle on abandoned

[vocal rose]

1/15 decks

and on abandoned

runner clears

[lyric wave]

straights are the way to win abandoned

[opal canopy]

Full houses or straights

[rancid niche]

Yeah runner maybe but I was talking about squimbo

[manic zealot]

I love square man

[vocal rose]

so when you compare other jokers to square and put them in a more advantageous position

obviously they will be better

[rancid niche]

Don't get me wrong it's my favorite chips joker

[lyric wave]

very few full house jokers, but there are so so many jokers that benefit from straights

[errant brook]

Mad

I think you can all guess why I spent all my money here

[lyric wave]

the nefarious palm tree

[errant brook]

Yep

nat negative Idol btw

[lyric wave]

sell the trib for more money to reroll

[vocal rose]

I can’t

[lyric wave]

that's crazy

[errant brook]

no ectoplasms used yet either

[lyric wave]

was there a boss reroll voucher earlier in the run?

[errant brook]

Nope!

[sacred cloud]

This is my setup rn, what should I be looking for to keep this going as far as possible? I'm about to beat the boss blind

[lyric wave]

damn, rip

[rancid niche]

No

[lyric wave]

they hit the plant

[rancid niche]

Oh crap

[errant brook]

let me die and check the seed hold on

[lyric wave]

also jesus christ that's a lot of cash to reroll with

[errant brook]

I had mail in rebate before this, deck all kings

[lyric wave]

honestly super impressive econ

[errant brook]

Like if I had the re-roll vouchers I basically was good for at least 10 more antes

[fervent wolf]

Challenge:
the squimbo nightmare: all blinds are the Psychic

Start with 5 joker slots
4 dollars, standard deck, 2 consumable slots
Negative eternal square joker, eternal half joker

Banned jokers:Chicot, Luchadore

Banned vouchers:director's cut, retcon

Other banned things: reroll tag

[lunar zealot]

ts so peak

You need to add more hands btw

[errant brook]

Luchador: Card 593

[lunar zealot]

Just so square can scale more

[rancid niche]

Why?

[lyric wave]

because squoker deserves it

[rancid niche]

This baseball fella is evil

[errant brook]

I presumably saw close to 500 cards in the shop. Meaning I would have needed like 4,000 dollars to find Luchador...maybe

I hate this game sometimes

[glad viper]

there are bees under my

[rancid niche]

You play multiplayer?

[fervent wolf]

Ah yes, but then ban burglar

[errant brook]

Ectoplasm didn't exist in this seed though

So I'd have needed to get lucky with Arcana packs

So it had a ceiling

[main delta]

i like a good show

[fervent wolf]

Juggler!

[glad viper]

you show off

get it

[fervent wolf]

Make it a circus

[glad viper]

get the

the joke

ill take my leave

[fervent wolf]

Torture challenge: all packs, cards, jokers, and vouchers are face down and always cost 5 dollars

[glad viper]

😭💔

[slow iris]

add dna as well

[lyric wave]

yes

[fervent wolf]

And sixth sense

[rancid niche]

We should play

[lyric wave]

alr then

mayhaps take multiplayer balatro discussion to the discord

[fervent wolf]

New boss blind:the eel

After play or discard, lose 5 dollars, draw 1 card

[main delta]

I lost

unbelievable

[rancid niche]

Yes but not right now, I gotta make a cup of tea and eat something first

[lyric wave]

alr :p

[lament hornet]

Just got four of my last seven for c++ in a single run, had a hand size of 1 with all the ectoplasms + stuntman

[glad viper]

you failed me and my joke

im taking my jokes elsewhere we

[fervent wolf]

If they're uncommon, I'll take em

[glad viper]

ayyyeeeeeee

[digital pewter]

after doing all gold stakes, going to the challenges so far has been weirdly easy

i've one shot like every challenge i've tried so far

completed the entire first page

[glad viper]

goobjob

[digital pewter]

i know it's gonna get a bit harder but like, damn

[manic talon]

Challenges, except for the last 3, is around black stake level

[fervent wolf]

You're BEARly breaking a sweat?

[torpid bridge]

[digital pewter]

yup..........

[digital pewter]

ah, ok

[torpid bridge]

🗡️

[digital pewter]

i know one of them is jokerless but idk what the other two would be

[weak relic]

Red card

[fervent wolf]

Bear with me, my jokes should hibernate

[manic talon]

cruelty and golden needle

[fervent wolf]

Cruelty is one of the easiest imo

[woven spire]

thats a scary boss

[digital pewter]

gulp

[torpid bridge]

I miss the funny horse guys

😿

[weak relic]

Anyways stinky ccitbp

[manic talon]

defo easiest out of the 3, you'd just need to know how econ works, but the challenges before them, you kinda dont even need to

[digital pewter]

ah, just searched up cruelty

that one sounds eugh

[torpid bridge]

Its gonna destroy your eco

[woven spire]

stencils runs are so fun

[digital pewter]

dude golden needle is crazy what

[weak relic]

Yeah I feel insulted so I threw, the seed to it btw

[digital pewter]

one hand every round, discarding costs money

[humble rover]

Hi, I'm new to the game. I'm looking to do an infinite run. Should I sell everything and buy the Ankh, or what should I do?

[manic talon]

you start with more money + a credit and more discards card, its harder but not that hard, a bit more variance than normal tho, which sucks

[weak relic]

Idk I ran 5oak in that challenge

[manic talon]

ankh is just a blueprint but worse

[weak relic]

Dont really feel like I wanna do f5

[peak plinth]

I have 9 jokers left to get gold stickers on!

Compeltionist++ here i come😼

[weak relic]

Do you want to lose?

[digital pewter]

woohoo!

which ones

[humble rover]

Okay, so I'm still in the same boat.

[woven spire]

gulp.

[manic talon]

you'd be worse off if you ankh'ed

[glad viper]

gulg

[digital pewter]

yerp.

[humble rover]

Sorry, I'm very new 🙁

[weak relic]

So dont

[lyric wave]

well you don't have to be an ass about it

[random ravine]

This is so nice to look at

[glad viper]

dont listen to the people, lose every round you can, itll make you mad but you can learn from mistakes and be like me, a dumbass, while doing so 👍

[weak relic]

Ankh is kinda stinky

[exotic orchid]

Trick of black deck gold stake is to play one shot hands and sacrificing a goat at midnight.

[weak relic]

It duplicated my midas touch instead of madness

[fervent wolf]

Yeah, did it first try lol

[weak relic]

Ofc I reloaded

[peak plinth]

Greedy
Steel
Hiker
Shortcut
To the moon
Stone
Onyx agate
Glass
And oops

[woven spire]

ill take that

[humble rover]

I'm writing it down right now

[peak plinth]

I feel like Steel, stone and glass will be the hardest

[woven spire]

thought i had to sacrifice my whole city for how people describe it

[exotic orchid]

Stone is very hard ye. I still haven't got it.

[weak relic]

Funny cuz steel joker is my main xmult to beat zodiac deck on gold diff

[glad viper]

grace fan in the wild

have we been here before

[digital pewter]

perchance.

[weak relic]

Glass on red deck

[lyric wave]

you could get a 2 for 1 in oops + glass

would go nuts

[glossy mortar]

Imma be honest. The Plasma Deck may very well be the least fun deck in the game to play. Like I’de rather be playing Black Deck right now it sucks so bad.

With every other deck it just kills you at the very beginning. It dosen’t waste your time if it’s not possible. Plasma Deck though wastes your time by giving you great stuff in ante 1 then killing you by not giving you anything in ante 2. Genuinelly this deck sucks so badly.

[lyric wave]

you can go completely jokerless until ante 3 in plasma

which is crazy econ

[woven spire]

i have 15 gs lol

[digital pewter]

i don't think you should be dying ante 2 im ngl

[lyric wave]

not on plasma deck

[weak relic]

Plasma deck is stinky yeah

I used a stinky strat to beat it on gold

[digital pewter]

i've got gripes with plasma deck but not cause the first three antes

[glossy mortar]

It’s consistantly ante 2. It staves you of money and staves you of jokers. The game for now 4 RUNS IN A ROW gives me the best support jokers in the game, but gives me NOTHING to score with. Not even any common scoring jokers. It’s genuinely awful.

Like honestly this deck should have been left on the cutting room floor. Black deck is better than this.

[peak plinth]

I used quad arrow head to beat gold plasma

[mystic pollen]

I have a polychrome egg that i cant sell bc its infinite

[woven spire]

can’t be that bad, i used arrowhead

[wintry ice]

confirmation bias into making every possible excuse to not learn from your mistakes compilation

[digital pewter]

get that temperence!!!!!!

[exotic orchid]

Ye plasma deck sucks balls on gold.

[vestal copper]

the juicy temperances

[mystic pollen]

I dont get any of in this run(

[digital pewter]

F

[weak relic]

||photochad||

[digital pewter]

it'll pay off trust...

[lyric wave]

I got ungodly lucky on my gold stake plasma. literally every single run from purple stake to gold stake gave me arrowhead + bp, brainstorm, or invis (that copied arrowhead)

these were all back to back runs as well

[mystic pollen]

But in the next, i got pants

[digital pewter]

oh yeah chat which should i do first!!!!!!

[weak relic]

Why stinky idol?

[woven spire]

isn’t that’s baaaaad cmoon

[mystic pollen]

Bc free

And polychrome

[weak relic]

In terms of how disgusting it is to play

[patent sail]

Fragile

[lyric wave]

you used a holo tag?

[fervent wolf]

So that's holo

[patent sail]

Its so free

[mystic pollen]

Oh shi

[woven spire]

faaaair

[mystic pollen]

Yea holo

[patent sail]

Spam pairs

[weak relic]

Thats holographic

[digital pewter]

sure

[wintry ice]

a permanent joker slot deficit for a joker that can only be described as sunk cost fallacy is a cost

[lyric wave]

why are you changing your pfp so often ;-;

[patent sail]

Lowk easiest one on there

[digital pewter]

ohoho.

[mystic pollen]

And i upgrade this pants to +100mult and i get a brainstorm, so i get +200mult

[patent sail]

Ts challenge aint even a challenge ong

[mystic pollen]

But it was last pic of this run

[fervent wolf]

Why am I

[weak relic]

Yeah I kinda got lucky

[manic talon]

really did make a deck with all X2s and call it a challenge

[digital pewter]

dude

its so free

[lyric wave]

actually mad

[mystic pollen]

I think red deck is one of the best

[random ravine]

FUUUUUCK

[lyric wave]

challenges aren't supposed to be particularly challenging, they're supposed to make you play in a different way than you normally would

[manic talon]

its slightly above average

[weak relic]

XD

[fringe nebula]

bring it on you b

[digital pewter]

DUDE

[lyric wave]

oh my god

[fringe nebula]

lmaoo

[lyric wave]

you're literally the luckiest person in this entire discord

holy

[digital pewter]

has there ever been a more free run?

[lavish gazelle]

No fucking way

[lyric wave]

spoker too

[manic talon]

its overkill, really

[digital pewter]

fr

[mystic pollen]

Ahahahaha

[lyric wave]

this is ante 2 as well

[digital pewter]

so!

hanging chad.

[lavish gazelle]

Absolute cinema

[weak relic]

More lucky than mine

[patent sail]

I mean honestly challenges maybe arent supposed to be all hard, just something different and fun to do

Which cant be said anout golden needle, that one is just hell

[digital pewter]

i can legit skip to the end already

[manic talon]

mfw challenges arent challenging

problem is theyre all stuck at white stake

unless you mod the game

[digital pewter]

oh dear

[patent sail]

Go on, do gold stake golden needle

[digital pewter]

might as well

[fervent wolf]

Repost

[fringe nebula]

........ should i greed while only having three hands

[fervent wolf]

It was flush 5 4s

[patent sail]

Not to say its impossible, but i guarantee you aint gonna have fun

[digital pewter]

best hit too

[wintry ice]

on one hand, black deck's economy sucks ass

on the other hand, so does it's earlygame scoring

[lyric wave]

you can't not take it

ante 1 round 1, it's no risk

[glad viper]

ITS ALL RISK

[manic talon]

dying on ante 1 type shit

[glad viper]

DONT TAKE IT

[patent sail]

Does this challenge ban The wheel? That boss might suck with 2 dice

[glad viper]

DO NOT TAKE IT

[random ravine]

Unlocked gold stake for the first time chat!

[lunar zealot]

DO IT

[lyric wave]

IT'S WORTH IT

[fringe nebula]

you can die at ante 1 black deck

[lunar zealot]

LET THE GREED FLOW THROUGH YOU

[lyric wave]

poggers

[fervent wolf]

Hello Kami

[lunar zealot]

DEW IT

[fringe nebula]

good job

[digital pewter]

i win with a level 2 high card

[wintry ice]

hi kami

[fervent wolf]

Mtn dew

[lunar zealot]

Yo

[patent sail]

Welcome to the raging at vv club

[lyric wave]

it's very early in the run, if it dies you can start up another one

[patent sail]

Then its fine yea

[random ravine]

I hate rentals when I play modded balatro. Can't wait...

[manic talon]

dont think so, besides, its funny that way

[lyric wave]

I'm raging more at verdant leaf

[fervent wolf]

Should I like, not talk to you or smth rn

[patent sail]

I dont recall it killing a single good run of mine icl

[digital pewter]

NOOOOOO

[patent sail]

What did though is vv

[fringe nebula]

fuck it let's do rebate

[lyric wave]

the issue isn't it killing runs. the issue is it stealing my fucking gold stickers oml I'd have C++ by now if it weren't for leaf

[wintry ice]

defeating verdant leaf usually just takes self control

[digital pewter]

anyways gg

[fringe nebula]

and i immediately die at ante 1

lmfaoaoaoaoao

[lunar zealot]

Im fine atm

[grizzled yew]

vibeo gane

[lyric wave]

rip

[lyric wave]

TRUE

[patent sail]

Does it? Lowk you dont even need to sell anything sometimes

[lyric wave]

it steals a lot of my gold stickers because I like my on scoring effects

[patent sail]

Most of the time i just win with all cards debuffed

[manic talon]

called it lmao

[lyric wave]

worth though,,,,,

[manic talon]

banana is literally right there next to it

[lyric wave]

banana would leave you frame 1

1/6 for banana to kill you, 1/6 for you to live with rebate

always take the 1/6

[patent sail]

Though i do go fpr like

Same good jokers i guess

Id imagine getting c++ would require some experimentation with stuff and some card effects so like i kinda get it

[fringe nebula]

hey look free $1

[lyric wave]

lul

[glad viper]

ahh

[manic talon]

or just have 3-4 good jokers and fill the rest with sticker chaff

[lyric wave]

yeah I usually either go for new jokers, in which case leaf can 100% kill me, or a team of good jokers and one useless joker to be stickered

in both cases leaf steals my stickers

[patent sail]

I only got 2 gold sticker decks so far and 3rd at purple

[lyric wave]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[patent sail]

Abandoned deck is like so easy tho

[lyric wave]

straights go nuts yeah

[patent sail]

Not even straights, usual pairs still carry 😭

I only had one straights run on it

[shell rock]

grinding yellow deck stakes because i never played it and WOW that is much better than i thought

[lyric wave]

small deck is also just super big

[shell rock]

no its small

its only 40 cards

[lyric wave]

that, my friend, was the joke

[patent sail]

Ima go for yellow deck next probably

Black and nebula go last FUCK those

[shell rock]

good thing i wasnt being serious either

[glad viper]

purple

[patent sail]

I had FOUR souls yesterday and 3 of them were perkeo

[lyric wave]

I'm so sorry for your loss

[shell rock]

i had two in one run and it was yo rick and then canio

at least you didn't get chicot

[lyric wave]

justice for chicot

[patent sail]

I won every run with perkeo and died when i got yorick cuz didnt have time to scale him 😭

[manic talon]

common yorick L

[shell rock]

im sorry but i got chicot in a gold stake run and he did nothing at all so i sold him for 8 ball and gold stickered that instead

[patent sail]

Bro was 5 cards away from giving me x2 with which id survive

[shell rock]

because 8 ball was helping me win more

[lyric wave]

damn ;-;

[patent sail]

Chicot won me my first gold stake 🐎

We all love chicklets

[shell rock]

to be fair, chicot is good with jonklers like card sharp that die to a bunch of boss blinds

and i could see a chicot build with wilds being very good

but i don't find chicot in those runs anyway, and i have no one else to blame

[patent sail]

Chicot is good with such powerful jokers as 148 of them

With the exception of flower pot, fuck flower pot

[torpid bridge]

This boss is disgusting

[lyric wave]

the tooth is usually alright but when it's bad, it's REALLY bad

[shell rock]

ok yeah that boss has been the nail in the coffin of several runs

[patent sail]

Dentist joker that kills the tooth

[lunar zealot]

the tooth is in the same vein as the arm

[lyric wave]

matador if it was consistent

[lunar zealot]

it's a slow death rather than a fast one

[shell rock]

and the eye

[lyric wave]

the eye is instant death

[lunar zealot]

no the eye kills you instantly

[calm moth]

Anyone have a strategy to beat green stake ghost deck

[shell rock]

actually no that ones a fast killer i lied

[shell rock]

get lucky

[lyric wave]

the eye is the needle but with 2x scoring requirement

[shell rock]

prioritize econ

[lyric wave]

have good econ

[torpid bridge]

I think im dead

[patent sail]

Luchador if he had a different profession skin depending on the current boss

[exotic orchid]

Play pairs for safety. Use immolate. And any spectral card that alters deck usually dictates the run.

[patent sail]

Me when im about to die

[torpid bridge]

Yo horseman

[manic talon]

Luchador for every boss would be funny and absolutely dogshit

Luchador just for the wheel, call him Brakes or smth

[patent sail]

No but like if he changed the way he looks on every boss, still one joker

[lyric wave]

make luchador change his name for every boss

amber acorn luchador = squirrel

[glossy mortar]

I hate this deck so much. More than anything.

[glad viper]

what

what are you watching

[patent sail]

What would he be for the vessel, drunkard?

[lyric wave]

no. he would still be the squirrel

[manic talon]

thats +1 discard

[lyric wave]

the plant would also be squirrel

[patent sail]

For water he would be just a guy because anyone can drink the water

[manic talon]

what beats the club

[lyric wave]

axe

[patent sail]

Gardener ✅

[lyric wave]

the gardener would be a cool joker I wish gardens were real

[digital pewter]

ok nevermind blast off is getting me real bad

[primal eagle]

i wish jokers were real

[digital pewter]

evil challenge

[patent sail]

Flowers were made real after localthunk invented flower pots

[primal eagle]

what

isnt that like almost free win

[lyric wave]

everything feels like an evil challenge after that blessed run from before

[primal eagle]

or did i remember it wrong

[minor portal]

Well, there's a couple of them, but their show is impractical.

[patent sail]

2 hands

[digital pewter]

that's what i thought at first but only two hands and 2 joker slots i can use is real bad

[patent sail]

Kinda evil

[digital pewter]

and both planet vouchers

[lyric wave]

inaccurate, if flowers were made real because of flower pots there would be far more flower haters. but there are like entire species of bugs that love flowers

[primal eagle]

isnt that a good thing if you have rocket & constellation

[digital pewter]

yeah but finding good jokers is also much harder

[patent sail]

Localthunk also invented bugs

Dont believe me? Play mobile balatro

[primal eagle]

you don't need many more good jokers if you already have those two

[lyric wave]

it's all a ploy by to sell more balatro...

[manic talon]

the early game is a lil bit bad, cuz you have less hands, but after the 1st shop you just breeze through

[primal eagle]

that was what i thought

[digital pewter]

i'm dying in like, the second or third round

just very eugh

[patent sail]

The big jimbo doesnt want us to know

[digital pewter]

holy shit man this sucks

genuinely zero of the other challenges have had to make me restart more than once

[median gust]

Would this be enough for naneinf

39 cryptids??

[lyric wave]

no

[median gust]

Damn

[royal bobcat]

I hate this

[glad viper]

ims cared

[lyric wave]

even if you had a perfect baron setup with steel red seal kings and plasma deck, it'd be off by several e's

you've got the wrong build for cryptid to be helpful

[manic talon]

wheres your baron mime, cryptids doesnt help much with idol, you can only play 5 cards anyway

[simple jacinth]

Typecast

[median spade]

pain. pain and suffering. Pain. Agony.

[median gust]

Dang alright I’ll just go for my new high score lol

[digital pewter]

black hole doesn't count as a planet card

it makes sense but i don't like it

[median gust]

Lmfao how are you on ante 3 with no money

[simple jacinth]

I didn't think nova would scale when I was winning in one hand, but then I remembered this is white stake

[patent sail]

Cast: typed ✅

[median gust]

damn borb why’d you do it twice

[glad viper]

I've felt this before.

[sharp plank]

Shitty econ

[simple jacinth]

I might even go a third time

[median spade]

i just used all my money rerolling until i hit something good enough to dupe

[simple jacinth]

This game's just so fun

y'know?

[median gust]

My YouTube teacher says to not gamble like that

[patent sail]

Would be funny if it gave like 0.3 to conste because of just how rare it is, its not even that useful for how rare it is to find one

[median spade]

tbh i might just sell invis and get brainstorm

it'll suck having my econ in the shitter for a while but i can prob use it to copy something that'll keep me alive long enough to rebuild

[lyric wave]

I think you're just gonna have to die whichever option you choose

I don't see that being a winning run

[median spade]

yeah nah i fucked it lmao

[simple jacinth]

honestly this game is one of those kinda timeless things, I would like to see it get ported to new consoles for generations to come

[median spade]

oh it could even get ported to older ones. i saw someone doing a balatro demake/port for gameboy advance

[simple jacinth]

I'm not sure I'll ever stop playing it because the difficulty's in such a sweet spot

[median spade]

same same

i'm tryna get deck stake wins before i go onto joker stickers, but i'm also being greedy along the way bc gambling is fun

[lyric wave]

fact that the update was delayed because the game was just too fun and localthunk was playing it really says a lot about the game

[median spade]

and yes i am Severely punished for it

[digital pewter]

MICHEL

DONT LEAVE ME HERE

MICHEL

[lyric wave]

lul be greedy but greed within reason

[fickle mesa]

what the fuck

[sharp plank]

That’s what happens when you don’t treat women right

[fickle mesa]

bow are you alive

[median spade]

cavendish approacheth! also plenty of other jokers can replace that base mult

[fickle mesa]

lmao

[median spade]

i sold everything and spent all my money rerolling right before i took that screencap

[simple jacinth]

I almost don't want there to be an update because, like, how do you follow this

[fickle mesa]

whyyyy would you do that

[digital pewter]

fairly certain im already dead

[median spade]

true, but thunky said he was gonna rework some stuff like blue stake and the lovers and i'm curious to see what he does

[simple jacinth]

How do you improve on something that's basically perfect

[fickle mesa]

its not

[lyric wave]

we'll have to find out

[simple jacinth]

Yeah, I'll be interested to see what happens with those things

[fickle mesa]

its very good but when you're intimately familliar w the mechanics you can see flaws in some things

[simple jacinth]

Big hands being more viable will increase the diversity of runs

[fickle mesa]

blue stake, blue seals

[median spade]

tbh i hope it doesn't fall into the same eternal-update trap that minecraft did. mojang had a perfect game then they added so much stuff to it it's basically impossible to get into unless you've been following each update

[fickle mesa]

blue joker is okay though

[digital pewter]

pleeeeease speed, i need thiiissss

[median spade]

i remembered drspectred talking about a balancing issue w/ pairs basically being a free ante 8 win that he'd like to see reworked

[simple jacinth]

Strongly doubt that'll happen, I think this next update will be the last and only major update

[digital pewter]

ugh

[lyric wave]

that's what relogic said too

[digital pewter]

that was like my second run that got past ante 2

this is gonna be so bad

[median spade]

connie needs to be kept well fed to work optimally imo. if you take constellation, you're buying every planet card you see now no matter what

[fickle mesa]

i mean are people not getting into minecraft

[median spade]

oh they are, i'm just biased bc i haven't played in years and all the new stuff scares me ;-;

[fickle mesa]

its literally huge

thats fair

[median spade]

(i'm doing a bit. adding new stuff is good.)

[digital pewter]

yeah, i'm just always in a money deficit because i'm spending to just barely keep up

2 hands is brutal man what the hell

[fickle mesa]

ill find myself asking my wife "woah thats so cool what mod is this from" "its from the base game" "oh my god what the fuck? i guess its new" "its from 2019"

[patent sail]

How come the only 2 games i play are both made by a single person and just never update because they dont need to

[median spade]

i literally had this conversation with my partner yesterday

[median spade]

i once took a hieroglyph in black deck and basically died immediately

2 hands only works if you have an ironclad infallible build already

[glossy mortar]

Alright I’m officially done wasting my time here.

What is the best joker to start plasma deck with?

[median spade]

stuntman, hands down

[glossy mortar]

I’m just gonna reset until i get it.

Okay sweet.

[median spade]

120% it is stuntman

[patent sail]

Geometry Dash and Balala my beloved 🐎

[glossy mortar]

This is the worst deck in the game.

[median spade]

chips will carry you to an easy ante 8 win, but beyond that you need to start really putting in the work with xmult

so if you're just trying to win plasma ante 8, then chips, chips, and more chips. did i mention chips.

[glossy mortar]

Yeah chips fucking suck.

[digital pewter]

okay, this is workable

[median spade]

blue joker, ice cream, and arrowhead are huge too. if you get an arrowhead then do a spades run with it

[digital pewter]

still dumb but workable

[vestal copper]

plasma is so boring 💔

[glossy mortar]

3 runs in a row now they get me killed on either ante 6 or 7.

Plasma is the single worst deck in the game and it’s not even close.

[vestal copper]

say that again

[median spade]

a spades flush with arrowhead gets you the same chips stuntman does without the hand size downside, but you have to actually draw it and fix towards it

[fickle mesa]

arrowhead actually kinda scales later on though

unlike stuntman which is static

[manic talon]

runner does it

[median spade]

oh you're right actually, i forgot about retriggers

[unborn summit]

first gold stake clear

[lyric wave]

you need roughly 1k chips with 4 hands to beat gold plasma deck

[stone hornet]

How should I work this invisible joker

[median spade]

runner is also huge but you have to build it

[unborn summit]

and you're all gonna hit me with the i told you so

it was pairs

[digital pewter]

okay this is big we're getting somewhere

[fickle mesa]

pairs are powerful on gold stake

[lyric wave]

yay slimbo

[median spade]

basically consider what you would NOT want it to dupe and sell them. hallucination and parking would be bad so get rid of those, and the negative constellation too

[lyric wave]

as opposed to white stake, where everything is powerful

[median spade]

because another baron, mime, or copier will do more for you than connie ever will

[fringe nebula]

I WOULD take golden jimbo if i'm playing non-black deck but aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[unborn summit]

it was green joker + square joker + vampire + constellation

and i even almost killed myself by rerolling verdant leaf and getting violet vessel

[vestal copper]

chadful build

[unborn summit]

but somehow the scaling worked out

[lyric wave]

brutal

[median spade]

only four? were you on painted deck?

[vestal copper]

you almost never want to reroll leaf guh

[unborn summit]

i had an eternal rocket from ante 1

[vestal copper]

leaf is free

[median spade]

ohh there was a fifth

[fickle mesa]

thatll do it

[fringe nebula]

if you don't rely on cards for scoring then yeah verdant is free

[unborn summit]

it gave me the econ i needed to make it

[median spade]

who in that build would you have sold for leaf

[vestal copper]

uh

[glossy mortar]

Do you wanna see why i hate straights so much?

[fickle mesa]

powerful econ means you can beat whatever comes your way

[unborn summit]

i would have sold rocket if i could have, lol

[fickle mesa]

why did you reroll leaf tho

[digital pewter]

this is the way

[glossy mortar]

This is why.

[tawdry rock]

you're gay? congrats

[shell dagger]

You don’t need to sell anything in that build

[fickle mesa]

your scoring doesnt rely on card effects

[glossy mortar]

Instant reset now.

[median spade]

wait hang on yeah i'm stupid

all scoring is coming from jokers in that build

[unborn summit]

what do you mean it doesn't rely on card effects????

[median spade]

all you lose is some square and vamp scaling

[fickle mesa]

not even square

[median spade]

jokers that scale will still give their value every hand, even if the hand that buffs it isn't played

[fickle mesa]

you can still play 4 cards

[median spade]

all you lose is a round of scaling them

[unborn summit]

right but like... i wouldn't be able to sell them

[fickle mesa]

at least i think it counts as 4 card

[weak relic]

Red card my favorite

[shell dagger]

Square still scales

[median spade]

and it still counts the hand and gives you the base planet value

[unborn summit]

maybe i could get away with selling square

[fickle mesa]

you dont need to

[shell dagger]

Square still gives you points

More than the cards do

[median spade]

leaf only kills you if your score comes from "when scored" or "held in hand" jokers, or the cards themselves

[fickle mesa]

verdant leaf doesnt stop jokers from scoring

[tawdry rock]

awesome name btw

[shell dagger]

Bc vampire has sucked off any enhancements

[unborn summit]

Oh wait you're saying it doesn't matter for all the cards to be debuffed

[shell dagger]

Yeah

[unborn summit]

i didn't even consider that

[fickle mesa]

it just stops the playing cards from scoring

[unborn summit]

i feel silly in retrospect for not even considering that

[median spade]

it does if a joker calls off a specific card, for instants lusty/wrathful or baron

but if the joker gives its value every hand regardless, you can brute force the leaf

[fickle mesa]

another l for baron

[unborn summit]

right but in this particular build it didn't matter

[median spade]

precisely, bc all those jokers gave their value every hand

you'd lose out on a chance to scale them but you wouldn't die

[unborn summit]

because green still gives its mult, square still gives its chips, the xmult still happens, and a highly leveled up pair still has its base

[median spade]

^^^^ exactly!!!

[unborn summit]

that makes sense. i feel very silly for not having considered that

my brain is just like "oh shit leaf i have to sell"

[median spade]

brute-forcing the leaf is also extremely funny and feels great to do

[fickle mesa]

somebody in the balatro server learning from their mistakes

[exotic orchid]

Dw. Sometimes we don't consider stuff unless pointed out.

[fringe nebula]

i would be very happy seeing green jimbo at first shop........ if i'm not playing black deck

[fickle mesa]

sheds tear... i thought it could never happen

[unborn summit]

appreciate you all walking me through it

[median spade]

oh yeah i've been extremely stupid multiple times this convo alone

[exotic orchid]

Grasp.

[fickle mesa]

what

[weak relic]

[lyric wave]

ESPECIALLY with a valuable gold sticker that you could've needed to sell

[vestal copper]

why is greenbo even good

[lyric wave]

gasp + R

[fickle mesa]

4 mult per round is pretty good

[lyric wave]

crazy scaling. baseline +4 mult per round at the cost of your discards

[unborn summit]

i actually couldn't figure it out myself until i had a build that didn't need to discard

[lyric wave]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vestal copper]

burglar + greenbo probably goes nuts tho

[unborn summit]

i was just like "you need discards for all the really cool hands!"

[lyric wave]

all it takes to realize the worth of a joker is the right build

[fickle mesa]

green joker plus everything goes nuts

[vestal copper]

i mean considering pair slop exists

[lyric wave]

me when I'm not enlightened by pairs

[median spade]

goes hard with burglar

[vestal copper]

then yeah discards might not be as needed

[median spade]

oh wait you already said that

[lyric wave]

it doesn't even need burglar to go crazy

[weak relic]

Eye

[median spade]

that's what i get for tabbing out lmao

[exotic orchid]

Idk. Its a form of expression where i am from. 🗿 I thought its common.

[unborn summit]

i can still play the cool hands on white stake

[fickle mesa]

we're just saying shit now arent we

[unborn summit]

heck, honestly, most of the stakes up until blue

[exotic orchid]

Its like when you see anime characters say shock out loud. 🗿

[fickle mesa]

what the fuck does pair slop mean

[vestal copper]

pairs

[median spade]

see i just assumed you meant to type gasp

[fickle mesa]

you mean "gasp?"

[lyric wave]

if you have a well fed groker, you're not likely to lose to the eye

[unborn summit]

and then blue stake takes away a discard and the fun hands die

[tawdry rock]

it means "i am terrible at ragebaiting"

[exotic orchid]

Yes i am bad at english 🗿

[fickle mesa]

grasp means to like grab at stuff

lol ur good dw

[exotic orchid]

Lol

[unborn summit]

i kind of wish that you could pick your difficulty modifiers like many other roguelites

[fickle mesa]

my bad i should have considered that you meant that that was pretty obvious in hindsight

[vestal copper]

i gotta watch spectred's vid about pairs

[median spade]

"pair slop" mfs when i win every round off flushes:

[lyric wave]

checkered deck mains when I don't play checkered deck (they're right you should always play checkered deck)

[tawdry rock]

watch them create the brand new flushslop term

[unborn summit]

i think a "build your own gold stake" would be really fun, like the high heat/fear in hades

[fickle mesa]

les fans d'Obelisk lorsqu'ils apprennent qu'il n'y a aucune raison de jouer autre chose que des couleurs 😂 🤣

[median spade]

flushslop? that's just what i do when i go to the bathroom

[tawdry rock]

oui oui hon hon

[vestal copper]

flush five slop

[unborn summit]

d'Obelisque

[digital pewter]

it's said that they call it the "how fast can you make a pair build" challenge...

this sucked

[median spade]

"obelisk fans when they learn there's no reason to play anything other than [colors]" (suits/flushes?)

[vestal copper]

obelisk kinda peaks

[fickle mesa]

yeah i cant lie i google translated this

[unborn summit]

i was actually just trying to figure that out myself with my very very very rusty french

[fickle mesa]

i know french but im incredibly rusty

[lyric wave]

but why though

[weak relic]

Obelisque

[digital pewter]

good riddance

[unborn summit]

is there a mod that turns obelisk into obelisk the tormentor

"several people are typing"
sickos.jpg

[manic talon]

theres a mod that puts straight up obelisk the tormentor into balatro

[edgy whale]

um... what if the "lovers tarot card" had 2 type of abilities and u could choose 1 of them?

1/ you can enhance the card as a wild card, +2 mult (buff), 1 card need to be selected

OR

2/ you can copy any other cards' rank but without copying the ability or enhancements
"Death" like mechanism, 2 cards need to be selected

🤔🤔, opinion?

[median spade]

idk but i want a texture pack that makes the obelisk art a picture of AM from i have no mouth and i must scream

[fickle mesa]

because my french is rusty and i didnt know what flush was in french

[unborn summit]

oh hell yeah that's awesome

[fickle mesa]

ive seen this before

[exotic orchid]

Obelisk slander.

[median spade]

change balatro to french localisation and check there

[fickle mesa]

feature creep

[manic talon]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1338302514616995892

[vestal copper]

lovers are by far the worst tarot arent they

[lyric wave]

gonna go do other things, @fickle mesa tell april that sheep liver said uad

[median spade]

too complex imo, localthunk had a rule where if it took more than three lines to explain it didn't make it into the final game

imo "can be used as any rank or suit" would be a better wildcard

[unborn summit]

oh damn, that's sick, almost as sick as the yami yugi mod for dragon ball fighterz

[edgy whale]

ehh? does it make that card broken or what? that cards needs to be more consistent...

[exotic orchid]

Playing the overhaul mods really makes you appreciate vanilla balatro.

[fringe nebula]

getting tooth'd at ante 3 while playing black deck gold stake is brutal dude

[fickle mesa]

thats so much text

too much text for a balatro card

[median spade]

sometimes a mechanic that is good is simply too complex for players to understand properly

[fickle mesa]

2 effects is already something off the table

[exotic orchid]

Like there's so many stuff in the mod that are like you get xmult but "arbitary condition."

[median spade]

you gotta consider accessibility for new players, and points of failure with other stuff - more complexity means more ways it can be abused/broken

[edgy whale]

I understand.

[fickle mesa]

this is what most non scaling xmult is?

[unborn summit]

the main thing i dislike about wild cards is the decoration. i think it looks stupid and overly minimalistic

[edgy whale]

yeah fair enough

[median spade]

oh yeah and all of them add xchips, which i personally hate - imo the entire point of mult is that it's lower in numbers but can itself be multiplied

adding xchips ruins the entire chips-mult balance relationship

[manic talon]

Xchips is literally just Xmult except in plasma

[fickle mesa]

xchips isnt a difference compared to xmult

they just want to make plasma easier

[median spade]

(@ the mod devs, not you) The Point Of Plasma Is That It Is Hard

[fickle mesa]

honestly if anything were to do xchips id wanna see it as an enhancement

thats the only way i can picture it being interesting in any way

[lavish gazelle]

Is that not what reverse tarots are for

[royal bobcat]

i dont think the point of plasma was to be hard

[median spade]

a mod could have huge potential if it added the minor arcana tarot cards, cups/swords/coins/i forgot the other one

[royal bobcat]

i dont think any deck was designed to be hard

this isn't an isaac situation where thunk made a blue baby or lost

[fickle mesa]

black deck was absolutely designed to be hard lol

[manic talon]

plasma only really became harder since increased the scoring requirement on the later antes

the X2 just compounded it

[fickle mesa]

-1 hand is brutal and thunk has had time to remedy its difficulty

same for plasma deck

[royal bobcat]

i think black deck was prolly made early and thunk geniunely thought one extra joker slot was well worth 1 hand

[median spade]

-1 hand SIZE could almost be a balance consideration with black deck because it alters the playstyle similar to how tf2 weapons are balanced

"+1 joker slot, -1 hand size" meaning "you now focus your scoring off jokers not cards and this deck encourages that"

[royal bobcat]

if serious discussion was still up i'd ask thunk but its been nuked

[vale shale]

woah!

[fickle mesa]

you do realize that thunk had many playtesters and black deck was around during the games stages where it was receiving regular updates right

[edgy whale]

yeah sort of, but some of those are broken ig? Like reverse fool tarot making consumables -ve?

But reverse strength would be dope, making a 2 rank card into a king!

so many possibilities!

[royal bobcat]

i think its impossible to know whether or not thunk meant for black deck to be hard without asking him directly

actually

[median spade]

i just want negative playing cards man. like if it's next to draw it ignores hand size and draws anyway

not for the actual game at all

but for a mod that i'd make if i had the programming skills

[royal bobcat]

negative playing cards wouldn't do much

[royal bobcat]

then that answers the question

[fickle mesa]

then that hangs the chad

[royal bobcat]

indeed

[heady narwhal]

it was originally -1 hand and -1 discard iirc

[lavish gazelle]

Ouch

[heady narwhal]

i can't imagine thinking "+1 joker slot -1 hand -1 discard" would be an overall positive effect

[humble dune]

Mmmmm

Gold steak

[exotic orchid]

Burnt steak

New stake unlocked. All the cards are burnt.

[glossy mortar]

Okay yup! It’s been decided! Plamsa deck is the single worst deck in the game. It’s not even close. Instead of actually going in with any semblance of strategy or logic. Trying to pick jokers that make sense and add up. I just took the bull at the start and bought NOTHING. My FIRST purchase was riff raff on ante 5 as an income generator. That is it. The fact that the only way to beat this stupid deck is with the dumbest most fucking garbage strat in the world is beyond stupid.

[fringe nebula]

u sure?

[glossy mortar]

I’m not lying when i say i bought nothing. I made one purcahse and the only time i ever did anything was when i pulled a free reroll from the rif raff, used it once, bought nothing, and won/

The only times i did anything was buying a few taro cards. Which was exclusively and only the taro card that generated chips.

[edgy whale]

taro

[exotic orchid]

Who is in the corner of screen

[fickle mesa]

you are provably lying

[lyric wave]

the facecam goes crazy

[fickle mesa]

brainstorm is right there

[lyric wave]

business card, merry andy (?) and 8ball

[fickle mesa]

its juggler actually

[fringe nebula]

it's not the only way btw
the hard part of high stake plasma deck is trying to find the chance to pivot from +chips to xmult

[glossy mortar]

I’m not. I only purchased 2 jokers the entire run. Bull i got for free from the shop, i bought brainstorm immediately in the next shop, then bought riffraff for income generation in ante 5. That’s it.

[fickle mesa]

oh so you skipped

[glossy mortar]

I basically did nothing and won.

[fickle mesa]

okay well why are you surprised it took you so long if you're skipping around all the time

skipping is bad

unless you know what you're getting is good

[glossy mortar]

I only ever skip for 2 things. Free shop round one, or free rare round 1. That;s it. If it’s bad, i reset. Simple.

[fickle mesa]

and with random uncommon jokers, the answer is a resounding no

[glossy mortar]

I was actually resetting for the stuntman, but bull is better than stuntman.

[lavish gazelle]

ante 1 investment tag my beloved

[vestal copper]

the worst part about skips are perishes

[fickle mesa]

these also both suck ante 1 lol

[vestal copper]

and no shop ofc

[fickle mesa]

youd like to grow your econ first

[glossy mortar]

You’re saying to me that me resetting and getting that bull didn’t make me win that game? The proof is right above.

[fickle mesa]

skipping for a free shop sucks if the shop doesnt have much, skipping for rares sucks if the rare isnt useful

[pale dawn]

I love skipping I love gambling I play this game not to win but to gamble ❤️‍🩹

[fickle mesa]

im saying youd be winning more often if you stopped those habits

[lyric wave]

yeah you Did win but it took 30 years

[glossy mortar]

If i didn’t do that I’de still be in the last 2 hours of hell where i actually used my brain and resulted in nothing but constant ante 4-7 deaths.

[weak relic]

My stupid decisions in life made me pick an eternal photograph and be a slacker for the rest of the game

[fringe nebula]

i'm starting to think that ante 3 is the hardest part of black deck gold stake

[fickle mesa]

you didnt even need to skip for the bull

it costs 6 dollars youd have enough money

the skip did nothing for you lmao

also if you spent money on only two things then you werent optimizing the bull properly

with bull you wanna open standard and arcana packs for gold cards, hermits, temperances, etc

these things are usually money positive in the long run

[glossy mortar]

It is a VERY bold assumption to assume you get past round 1 with all your money. I’ve said it before. Most runs die there.

[fringe nebula]

????

[weak relic]

Huh

[fringe nebula]

plasma round 1 is like.... very free

[fickle mesa]

you can survive the first 4 rounds of plasma deck easily without anything

are you playing flushes early on

[lavish gazelle]

Ante 1 gets passed by 2 of any 5 card hand what are talking about

[fickle mesa]

i dont even think you need 2 on plasma

[shy topaz]

What build's best for 4 joker clear???? I'm trying to unlock invisible joker

[fickle mesa]

altho its been a while

[fickle mesa]

any build -1 joker

[glossy mortar]

I most definitely wasn’t doing bull properly. I’ve done bull before and got that thing to 600+ chips. The second highest I’ve got for any chip generator. I didn’t even get seed money or anything like that. Yet it still won. That is proof beyond any reason that plasma deck is the worst deck in the game. The fact that such a brainless no logic strat works is INSANE!!!

[fringe nebula]

good ol scaling mult and xmult

also, just play on painted deck

[shy topaz]

Makes sense lol

[fickle mesa]

i mean yeah sometimes the game pieces are handed to you

its a roguelike not every run is thrilling

its about consistently getting those wins and working in conditions where not everything is handed to you that matters

[fringe nebula]

the score requirement is higher on purple stake

[glossy mortar]

I don’t expect every run to be thrilling. I just don’t expect every run on this deck to be shit.

Every other deck has stakes and logic you need to use. This one has nothing

[vestal copper]

gold is kind of a different story

[latent egret]

could you have beaten vv? cause this is where chips build go to die

[tawdry rock]

just ignore amphy or horse react their messages they've been on this server for as long as they've been making terrible dogshit takes

they block you if you horse react them and i consider that a gigantic win

[vestal copper]

huh

[fringe nebula]

there is wdym?
you need to know the right time to pivot from chips to xmult

[glossy mortar]

Very very few things beat violet vessel xD it’s kind of a run killer in it’s own right.

[latent egret]

nope on plasma if you pivoted to mult its easy af

[vestal copper]

vessel is just a cope run killer

[latent egret]

plasma increases total score all the time

the scoring requirements are higher too but the deck makes every hand score more

[empty orbit]

Good Morning

[latent egret]

its up to x^2 if you have only chips or only mult

[glossy mortar]

Bruh i spent 2 hours before the winning run trying to get mult to work. My best run which died to ante 7 boss i had over 8x mult in total across 3 different jokers and joker effects. Not including steel cards. That didn’t even come close. Yet a mindless bull beat it without any thought.

[fickle mesa]

is it not (x/2)^2?

[latent egret]

yeah i spoke about endless where the 1/2 dont matter

[fringe nebula]

sounds like you're lacking in flat mult?

[latent egret]

but ante 8 is (x/2)^2 indeed

[glossy mortar]

That run’s 70+ mult pants begged to differ. That thing was getting ripped on multiple times a round.

[fickle mesa]

endless is highkey not real

amphy im very sorry that plasmas tough i dont play it either if you dont want to play it thats fine

[fringe nebula]

plasma makes the game completely different

and unusual

[royal bobcat]

endless not real

is true

and factual

[fringe nebula]

balatro runs always end at ante 8

i agree

[vestal copper]

i still dont have petro unlocked lmao

ive just never gone past ante 8

[fringe nebula]

LMFAO

[royal bobcat]

endless should not be taken into account in any way unless it is specifically specified

[vestal copper]

i have 2 gold wins

[royal bobcat]

if i see an endless joker high on your generalist tierlist i am striking you down with all my fury

[vestal copper]

true b*ron fucking sucks

[royal bobcat]

fuck idol even more

[shell dagger]

Most runs definitely do not die to round 1, especially on plasma deck

[royal bobcat]

baron can work

it aint good

it aint even mid

but it can work if you literally do the maximum amount of effort

[fickle mesa]

idol does more than baron

idol is an emergency violet vessel joker

[shell dagger]

Both could be considered emergency vv jokers

[royal bobcat]

like baron raised fist or shoot the moon isdoable

[fickle mesa]

and if ur deck is small enough you can theoretically use it as a budget photochad