🕹・game-discussion

[tawdry rock]

.5 would make it a rare

[sleek agate]

.5 would break the game

regardless of rarity

[lapis lion]

thats still like 0.75x per card added wtf

or

0.75x per round

[tawdry rock]

can one copy certificate

[sleek agate]

yes

[tawdry rock]

i think theyre talking about copying certificate

you can just copy cert before a blind then copy holo when you're done

[lapis lion]

yesh blueprint + brainstorm + copy cert

[sleek agate]

yeah if you have blueprint and brainstorm copying cert then its .75x per round but thats also a 4 joker setup

[tawdry rock]

holy synergy though

[sleek agate]

ive pulled it off before its cool

[tawdry rock]

john balatro drools at this setup

[orchid peak]

gulp

[lapis lion]

that one seed with negative blueprint and negative brainstorm

[lapis lion]

you either get triboulet or ass

[tawdry rock]

you just probably like REALLY gotta keep up with your deck

3 cards per blind is madness

[orchid peak]

imagine chicot

[lapis lion]

yeah but. if you think about it

its 3 cards per blind

[sleek agate]

this run literally just happened lol

[lapis lion]

but they all have STAMPS

[orchid peak]

the best legendary ever🧐

[sleek agate]

yeah seals are busted

[lapis lion]

this is one of my favorite runs lmao

[tawdry rock]

that has my STAMP of approval

ha get it

im hilarious

[sleek agate]

certified genius

[lapis lion]

"flush builds are rng" maybe

[sleek agate]

they kinda are

[tawdry rock]

the lowly red seal 9:

[lapis lion]

someone give me the certificite of approval

typo

[patent sail]

idek how im still alive here

[sleek agate]

show run info

also aren’t you copying mercuries

[patent sail]

uranus

for 2 pair

[sleek agate]

oh

don’t

[lapis lion]

wtf is on the top.left

[patent sail]

i got nothing else to copy 🥀

[sleek agate]

pants

[sleek agate]

faire

[patent sail]

???

ah

[rapid galleon]

Guys what is the best joker with yorick

[patent sail]

nvm

[tawdry rock]

mod that shows you blind overview

[patent sail]

banner

[sleek agate]

burglar

[lapis lion]

oh lol i thought it was like directors cut on drugs

[rapid galleon]

I'm not dumb

[lapis lion]

what does yorick do again

[rapid galleon]

I need discards not hands bro

[sleek agate]

actual answer is blueprint

[lapis lion]

burglar is actually a good card change my mind

[tawdry rock]

stop fucking lying your pfp is a dog

[rapid galleon]

Yorick is plus 1 x mult for every 23 discards how burgler is gud

[lapis lion]

stop fucking lying you dont have 2 apples on your pfps hesd

[patent sail]

its just that good trust

[lapis lion]

its op!

[tacit stream]

It's there to save the day when the Club happens.

[lapis lion]

if balatro is a card game whos the dealer

[rapid galleon]

._.

[tawdry rock]

jimbo

[patent sail]

i died 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[lapis lion]

also suggestion drunkard

[vocal rose]

mandy

[rapid galleon]

Oh

Wait

[rapid galleon]

Ye it is ty

[lapis lion]

what does mandy do

[drifting phoenix]

Peak build

[tawdry rock]

merry andy

[sleek agate]

its the adding discards one

but blueprint is better, im pretty sure

[tawdry rock]

-1 hand sizs +3 discards

[vocal rose]

+3 discards -1 hand size

[vocal rose]

it is

[shell dagger]

mandy might not be the best nickname ngl

[patent sail]

i would marry the andy

[sleek agate]

mr handy

[rapid galleon]

Fr

[lapis lion]

mandy would be really handy

[vocal rose]

yorick mult squared

def better than mandy

[lapis lion]

xxmult when

[tawdry rock]

andry

and when you dont use it right

its misandry

[shell dagger]

x^2 will always eventually dominate ax

[sleek agate]

guys i just learnt that theres a cyberpunk 2077 skin in balatro

[patent sail]

the new banana will be ^^^^1 mult

[sleek agate]

its one of my fav games

[lapis lion]

crackjoker when

[patent sail]

which one, balatro?

[sleek agate]

think i just never bothered swapping skins

[sleek agate]

2077

balatro is good too tho

[lapis lion]

crackjoker sets base chips and mult to 0 BUT you get to use your entire deck all at once

its not op i promise

[tawdry rock]

balatro was made in 202.. uhhh a Number but definitely not 2077

[lapis lion]

2027

[patent sail]

balatro was made in 1987

you newgens know nothing /silly

[lapis lion]

ni???

no*

[patent sail]

yes it was

source: trust me bro

[sleek agate]

is this why the stock market crashed so hard in 1987

[tawdry rock]

john balatro himself confirmed it

[lapis lion]

it was made during 1800's

[tawdry rock]

in a live interview with the guardian

[lapis lion]

whats the wr ante

[tawdry rock]

you mean max ante?

39

[patent sail]

i actually met john balatro himself and he confirmed that it was made in 1987

[lapis lion]

wgat happens after39

[tawdry rock]

he made it in 1984 actually

well the game was 1983 but he finished blue stake in 1984

correlation is very obvious

[patent sail]

score turns into letters, and since balatro players cant read, they cannot comprehend what that means and they cant score this much

[tawdry rock]

game crash

[lapis lion]

ante 67

[sleek agate]

you have to watch a few ads to continue

[tawdry rock]

most people dont really go to ante 39

it takes a really really long time and a lot of work to keep up

and the final boss has a blind requirement of -nan

[lapis lion]

the seed SIXSEVEN is good actually, ante 1 cavendish and brainstorm

[patent sail]

mods, make him play gold stake black deck

[rancid niche]

Should I obelisk with supernova

[vestal copper]

-nan is impossible by any means right

[sleek agate]

probably not

[tawdry rock]

yes

[vestal copper]

scoring it

[rancid niche]

It sounds so impractical but I don't wanna pass on an obelisk

[tawdry rock]

you will always fail no matter your build or score

[lapis lion]

is there a deck which can get constant naneinf

[patent sail]

when mult reaches naneinf you get -nan

[sleek agate]

is snova eternal

do you have other +mult

[rancid niche]

No

[sleek agate]

how much gold do you have

[vestal copper]

huh

[tawdry rock]

..no thats just

not

[rancid niche]

No

I have chips, that's about it

[lapis lion]

[sleek agate]

how much gold

[rancid niche]

Gold?

[sleek agate]

money

[rancid niche]

Money?

[lapis lion]

$$$

[rancid niche]

I don't have enough

[sleek agate]

sorry ive been playing baldurs gate 3

[tawdry rock]

thats $3

[rancid niche]

If I take obelisk I'd literally have 0

[lapis lion]

$9*

[sleek agate]

oh dont take it

lol

[patent sail]

isnt that now it was? i think when mult x chips exceed the limit its naneinf, but when mult exceeds naneinf you get -nan

idk ive heard that somewhere

[rancid niche]

BUT IT'S OBELISK

[sleek agate]

save up for interest

[vestal copper]

is -nan below 0

[tawdry rock]

-nan is not a possible score im like 80% sure

[lapis lion]

whats seed moneys second voucher

[tawdry rock]

its when the game completely breaks trying to find you the requirement

[sleek agate]

nan is just nan

[vestal copper]

money tree

[sleek agate]

theres no positive or negative

its just not a number

[vestal copper]

well

[tawdry rock]

you cannot achieve it and it is an arbitrary number that is completely undoable by any means

[lapis lion]

what does it do

[calm furnace]

imagine not being woke enough to know that rentals are your friend

[vestal copper]

20 bucks max interest

[rancid niche]

raise the interest cap

[lapis lion]

wtf

[tawdry rock]

and even if you do somehow by some miracle get it im pretty sure the game would still crash and you would not get through

[rancid niche]

Yeah if you have 100 in the bank

[pale wolf]

its steammodded

naneinf

[calm furnace]

too bad shit ass castle wasnt rental here

[lapis lion]

how do you get naneinf anyways

[patent sail]

oh thats what it was

[sleek agate]

baron mime

[pale wolf]

something something balatro university

lookyoutube

[patent sail]

i swear i saw -nan score somewhere and the explanation was mult being naneinf, i guess that was a lie 🎉🎉🎉

[rancid niche]

Break the scoring limit in the game, get more than something e308

[tawdry rock]

what is the thing we're talking about that is steammodded

[patent sail]

in the end... misinformation spreader got misinformed

[sleek agate]

@pale wolf im annoyed that there isnt any baldurs gate 3 skins for balatro

[lapis lion]

can blinds be naneinf

[terse vale]

ya

[sleek agate]

DOS2 Is right there!’!!!

[pale wolf]

nah -nan shows up for naneinf on steammodded, but nan is the blind requirement in a39

[rancid niche]

Yes, ante 39

[patent sail]

ante 39

[rancid niche]

it's nan

[patent sail]

yeah i get it now

[lapis lion]

nan is the same as naneinf??

[rancid niche]

you can't go past ante 39

[tawdry rock]

uhhhh no

[vestal copper]

why does naneinf happen

overflow?

[pale wolf]

i swapped the two in my head and was like "you want to be jimbo in dungeons and dragons?

[tawdry rock]

e308

[patent sail]

nan is not a number afaik

[tawdry rock]

game just cant do the number

[terse vale]

I think

[tawdry rock]

too big

[terse vale]

yesss

[sleek agate]

uhhh honestly yes to that as well, or at least a reference lmao

jimbo is literally in night city (cyberpunk 2077)

[rancid niche]

nan stands for not a number that's all, and inf is infinity

[lapis lion]

wait how does balatro even support giant numbers

[patent sail]

variables 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[terse vale]

coding

[tawdry rock]

there are mods you can install that will break the veil of naneinf and you can see e309 and above

[lapis lion]

isnt there a 64bit integer limit for variables wtf

[tawdry rock]

but in base balatro naneinf is e308

[sleek agate]

theyre doubles

[vocal rose]

@sleek agate here’s my latest gs a8 tierlist

[vestal copper]

a pretty big number

[lapis lion]

and it caps out at like 272828273928292 or whatever

[sleek agate]

64 bit floating point

not int

[patent sail]

at some point scores reach e notation and get like

simplified or whatever thats called, i forgot the term

[rancid niche]

Rebate is above all

[lapis lion]

whys rebate just rebate

[tawdry rock]

its just called scientific notation

[sleek agate]

holo better than chicot i think

[vestal copper]

rebate is joated

[rancid niche]

I disagree with you on the baseball card

[pale wolf]

rebate is the only joker you always take

[royal bobcat]

as it should be

[rancid niche]

Baseball card is s+ for me

[vocal rose]

nah I think chicot is better

[lapis lion]

throwback and baron in ass???

[vocal rose]

because it’s rebate

[terse vale]

I still don’t see tha lucky cat placement

[rancid niche]

Yes

[vocal rose]

yeah

[vestal copper]

throwback and baron ARE ass

[rancid niche]

GOD DAMMIT I HATE SANTA

[terse vale]

ye

[rancid niche]

IN

[royal bobcat]

ive had runs where i took rental eternal rebate shop 1 and still got so much money

[patent sail]

not the e, i know what the e is

idek how to explain what im trying to say, nvm 😭

[rancid niche]

Not in mine but in someone's

[sleek agate]

idk about the quad joker being in A- either, and i think erosion is C

[vocal rose]

it’s close to that

[tawdry rock]

i get what you're trying to say

[rancid niche]

Game winner with how many uncommons I usually pick

[vocal rose]

yeah the family and order are probably a little too high

[modern panther]

The pinnacle of seeded runs

[tawdry rock]

like whats called making 99999999999999999 into 9.99e20

[sleek agate]

sorry i forgot all the joker names ive been playing other games lately

[vocal rose]

but erosion I don’t agree with it being C tier

[lapis lion]

how good is this card

[rancid niche]

Oh I know this seed

[vocal rose]

I could move it down to B-

which would be fair

[sleek agate]

ye thats about right

[vocal rose]

I don’t think it’s B tier tbh

[patent sail]

super good

[sleek agate]

its not the same tier as halfsies

[patent sail]

+15 chips is great scaling

[vestal copper]

s tier

[vocal rose]

yeah when you put it like that it’s more clear

I think I def overrated the family and order a bit

[terse vale]

also half seems low

[sleek agate]

conversion to scientific notation?

[vocal rose]

I think it’s fair

due to the condition

[lapis lion]

feminize all cards and make them love eachother so every card is a lesbian and run 5 card build so you get 225-775 chips per ante

[vocal rose]

it’s a very harsh one honestly

[rancid niche]

It's goated. The runner is amazing, treat it as a mini game, you can play 2 to 3 lesbians per ante and then play the hand you're more comfortable with which is usually pairs, and it's a pretty good source of chips

[terse vale]

I mean it does reduce digging but it does give a lot of mult and you are playing pairs like 50% of the time in most runs anyways

[vocal rose]

magic cards themselves bring amazing value while they’re also pretty easy to spam lots of

[terse vale]

althooouh

[vocal rose]

I forgot the exact expected rate of money return for magic card

[terse vale]

it does kinda reduce the chances of getting another pair if you’re unlucky

[brave goblet]

Ong

[vocal rose]

early game is when it’s fine obviously but

not being able to dig can actually just

[patent sail]

like at some point game stops using numbers in their entirety and drops out the part thats not significant enough to count (aka e20 + 50 = e20), thats why it cant reach e308? maybe not though, i dont think any variable type can just store numbers that big without any optimisations (but i may be wrong)

[vocal rose]

straight up not give you another pair

[terse vale]

yea

[vocal rose]

but cat just consistently goes up in the antes

[rancid niche]

You coward.... Burger carried you and you're just gonna sell it?

[vocal rose]

idk I just love cat

[brave goblet]

Not a burger, it was a lucky cat that only procced twice

and my hologram was only 1.25

[vestal copper]

wait does selling burger gives you discards back

[patent sail]

how doesthat happen

[patent sail]

no

[terse vale]

and tru but I think cat scales a bit too slowly to be S
cus its good but its just not S tier to me

[brave goblet]

broke

[vocal rose]

it’s the same scaling rate as hologram

[rancid niche]

Oh. I thought you had a burger but you just have hand vouchers

[vocal rose]

both .25x

[brave goblet]

ye lmao

[vocal rose]

I think that’s pretty decent

[brave goblet]

I forgot to make gold cards

[sleek agate]

range of values that doubles can represent is a little less than that

with floating points the step between each representable number essentially increases the larger that number is (thats what i remember)

[undone depot]

can i ask for game advice here?

[vocal rose]

No.

[rancid niche]

What's easier, adding cards to the deck or spamming and retriggering lucky cards?

[vocal rose]

adding cards

hologram IS better

[sleek agate]

exactly what you said, e20+50 essentially ignores the +50

[terse vale]

I worded that wrong sorry I mean usually you’ll have like 7 lucky cards with normal deckfixing and you might not even find all of those

[undone depot]

then where??

[vocal rose]

i’m joking

you can ask

[undone depot]

oh lol

[rancid niche]

I think hologram is better

[brave goblet]

it's game DISCUSSION not game QUESTIONS

[vocal rose]

it is

[vocal rose]

haha

[patent sail]

is discussion not questions

[sleek agate]

hot take but blueprint is a pretty good joker

[undone depot]

i got this really good setup and im not sure whether to get soul or keep my jokers, im playing royal flush clubs

[brave goblet]

all it does is give me an extra +12 when copying zany, actual trash

[patent sail]

royal flush build is crazy

[brave goblet]

ditch your scary face

[sleek agate]

zany is better than blueprint

[brave goblet]

REAL

[rancid niche]

Blueprint is ass, wym I gotta change its location every few seconds and put it next to my best joker

[vestal copper]

fucking royal flush is crazy

[patent sail]

jimbo is s tier

[rancid niche]

I tell you what, wily is even better

[vestal copper]

get seance ngl

[royal bobcat]

i always take the soul for the stats lol

[undone depot]

bet

[sleek agate]

is wily the chips one

[brave goblet]

yeah

[undone depot]

what stats?

[vestal copper]

s+

[sleek agate]

god

[undone depot]

got canio

[brave goblet]

I only remember zany and wily cause I literally never take them

[rancid niche]

With a royal flush you don't need the scary face

[sleek agate]

i take them in ante 1-2

theyre ok

[rancid niche]

Straight flushes have a whole lotta chips

[patent sail]

3oak is that hand that like

exists i think

[royal bobcat]

most used spectral cards

[sleek agate]

3oak is the best hand for photochad runs

[undone depot]

tuff

[vestal copper]

tbh any hand is the best hand for photochad runs

[vocal rose]

facts

[vocal rose]

no

[terse vale]

thats basically 2pair for me

[vocal rose]

you want hands that atleast scale by +2 mult

[terse vale]

like yeah its there thanks for being a hand

[vocal rose]

otherwise photochad is weaker

[vestal copper]

2 pair needs to give 3.mult initially

[patent sail]

ive been doing two pair weirdly often recently

thats what square and pants do to you 😔

[vocal rose]

those are pair jokers tbh

[rancid niche]

Square, pants and runner, my favorite pair jokers

[sleek agate]

my least favorite non-secret hand by far is strush

[patent sail]

the family is my favorite pair joker

[brave goblet]

pants runner runs are pretty surreal

[tawdry rock]

balala

[terse vale]

I mean 2 pair isn’t my least favorite but its basically the stone joker of poker hands
like oh wow I remembered you exist

[rancid niche]

What's the joker you guys hate the most and WHY

[brave goblet]

I once had a strush run going and suddenly neptune stopped appearing

[sleek agate]

bloodstone

[calm furnace]

blue stake rework should be that at gold stake all jokers are rental

[tawdry rock]

what is the family again

[vocal rose]

2 pair is good on black deck, painted, and plasma

[rancid niche]

No need for the why, it never procs

[patent sail]

x4 for 4oak

[vocal rose]

yeah but i’m serious tho

[tawdry rock]

right ok

[patent sail]

how do you do pair with pants which only scale from two pair (and full house but no one cares about those)

[brave goblet]

doc speedruns have opened my eyes to marble + stone joker plasma runs

[undone depot]

holy peak

[calm furnace]

pivot

[rancid niche]

I can't put in the right words to tell you how much I hate flowerpot

[vocal rose]

because pants is hand agnostic

you pivot INTO pairs after you scale it up

[terse vale]

prollyyyyy idol

[brave goblet]

people forgetting that you don't have to do a straights run with runner nor two pair with pants

[patent sail]

i mean idk when i do pants i just stay doing two pair the entire run

[vocal rose]

that’s not good

[rancid niche]

Idol is work-aroundable

[vocal rose]

since you’re also probably leveling uranus

[patent sail]

why not, it works

[vocal rose]

yes it works, it’s not optimal

[brave goblet]

fail to draw two pair and die

[calm furnace]

if you have blue seals and can guarantee uranus thats the right play

[sleek agate]

actually my least favorite joker to pay is seance

i used to defend seance

[rancid niche]

Recently I've started using it lol

[patent sail]

ive had it trigger total of 0 times 🔥

[vocal rose]

after 50-60+ mult on pants I pivot into pairs

[sleek agate]

but i think its probably the worst joker for gold stake

[terse vale]

yea its just risky

[sleek agate]

maybe bottom 3

[vocal rose]

showman

[brave goblet]

baseball card fodder

all uncommons are baseball card fodder

[rancid niche]

One of the last jokers I stickered tbh

[brave goblet]

wheel of fortune target 💔

[calm furnace]

idol > showman even for ante 8

[rancid niche]

Okay what's your favorite uncommon

[sleek agate]

i think seance is about as bad as showman

ngl

[calm furnace]

seance can do something once in a while showman does nothing

[shut patrol]

showman is a great joker because it allows you to show more men

[patent sail]

i dont even know, but i do have my least favorite uncommon... can you guess what it is perchance?..

[sleek agate]

showman can do something if you need two of the same planets in a pack

sometimes

[sleek agate]

a horrible argument ik

[rancid niche]

Least favorite is stretching it

[sleek agate]

but seance also barely works to begin with

[rancid niche]

Same btw

[shut patrol]

thats not the usecase of showman. it's just specific endless setups requiring him

[calm furnace]

yeah it needs a lot of deck fixing but it can work

[rancid niche]

I hate flowerpot for all the misery it caused in the world

[calm furnace]

straight flush is a build

[sleek agate]

am talking about gold stake runs

[patent sail]

cant believe that seance was so loved that they made tables real

[calm furnace]

its just funny that i never find seance when im doing a strush build

[terse vale]

thats a horrible usecase

[shut patrol]

naninf is only marginally more difficult on gold stake than white tbh

[calm furnace]

???

good luck getting naneinf when you have eternal half joker and eternal duo you took to survive

[shut patrol]

ok

[sleek agate]

naneinf and gold stake runs require very different skills

[shut patrol]

don't take the eternal half joker then 😄

[sleek agate]

so idk how to compare

[terse vale]

well

[calm furnace]

genius

[patent sail]

then you die🎉

[calm furnace]

just win

[rancid niche]

The econ or rather the lack of it on gold stake makes it a tad more difficult

[calm furnace]

ez

[sleek agate]

half is an A tier early ante joker

[patent sail]

cant get to ante 39 if i die in ante 3

[shut patrol]

everyone telling on themselves here 😄

[terse vale]

?

[rancid niche]

You can if you picked enough nanners

[shut patrol]

i wouldnt be surprised if the math would end up being that most seeds are naninfable as well as completable, it's juts much harder to do that math than completable (ante 8)

[sleek agate]

im so confused are you suggesting you get to pick jokers in early antes to survive

[calm furnace]

if eternals didnt exist yeah maybe

but the existence of eternals is the biggest hurdle against naneinf

also the fact that the naneinf joker is like bottom 5 jokers to realiably win gold stake with

[patent sail]

i prefer picking yorick in ante 1 to survive, idk why yall dont do that. just get a legendary, whats the problem? smh my head

[rancid niche]

Just pick eternal rental brainstorm ante one and lose in ante 2 ez

[shut patrol]

you seem to be under the impression a naninf gold stake is some freak of nature occurrence

if you know how to naninf and know how to gs ante 8, combining the two is not rocket scienec

[brave goblet]

nah not really, I've won gs with baron lots of times

[sleek agate]

they are

though

[shut patrol]

lol

[terse vale]

[brave goblet]

though usually probably not picking up a baron in ante 1

[calm furnace]

please tell me how do i naneinf when half of my jokers are not compatible with naneinf

[sleek agate]

they really dont happen often at all

[rancid niche]

Well doc did it

[terse vale]

two different things I gotta say

[calm furnace]

yes the infamous naneinf build with red card runner and obelisk

[patent sail]

just dont pick them 🔥🔥🔥 do jokerless until you find a good one smh

[brave goblet]

realest

half your jokers are not naneinfable? stop using jokers then

[terse vale]

most naninfs are on white stake and you don’t really have to try to beat white stake

[brave goblet]

big brain time

[shut patrol]

never claimed as such. just don't think the skill distinction between gs naninf and ws is as high as people make it out to be. hence late game builds are relevant to gs runs

[calm furnace]

my bad, next time ima manifest 20 plutos and a baron on ante 1 shop

[patent sail]

we call that new game "poker"

[patent sail]

thats the spirit 🗣🗣🗣

[sleek agate]

im not saying its impossible but you’re not telling me that an average GS run is even close to naneinfing without having naneinf in mind

[brave goblet]

the blinds don't bet against you so it's not poker

[calm furnace]

lol gs has its own skillset

[patent sail]

the house:

[calm furnace]

the skillset of naneinf is luck + patience

[sleek agate]

youll have to avoid every eternal joker that isnt blueprint/brainstorm/baron/mime

[vocal rose]

No it’s definitely harder

[brave goblet]

save scumming

[vocal rose]

by a decent amount

[rancid niche]

Wrong, it's money and more money

[calm furnace]

even eternal baron mime are a problem because you want more copies of blueprint

[patent sail]

that was supposed to be a joke about the bosses name btw

[tawdry burrow]

biggest bull I've gotten so far

[vocal rose]

perishables and eternals just require you to have even more crazy amounts of econ

[brave goblet]

Oh yeah I was aware, actually incredibly clever joke

[shut patrol]

"the distinction between X and Y is not as great as people make it out to be, they're not completely different games"

"WHAT DO YOU MEAN X AND Y ARE EQUALLY HARD !?!?!??!!1"

reading is hard ig

[rancid niche]

Just have a good money printer and everything is possible until the IRS knocks on your door

[patent sail]

i read your name as CanioBASIC

[brave goblet]

not only are you betting against the house, but the house also happens to be the one that gives you your cards face down, like a real poker table

at least initially

[vocal rose]

I dont think people were doing this

but you’re here on an ego boost not adding anything of value

[calm furnace]

naneinf and gold stake are entirely different games

[sleek agate]

X and Y are not equally hard because one is pretty much harder than the other

[calm furnace]

just because they happen inside the same software doesnt mean its the same game

[shut patrol]

yea i mean tbh the people who lament balatro (or just gs) for being heavily luck based tend to not prioritize econ nearly enough. they rerolled like 4 times the entire game and then wonder why they didnt see the good jokers they needed

[tawdry burrow]

in all the time I've played I only got a single Canio
it's a joke about how some people have C++ in their names, which can be seen as the programming language

so i decided to put a completely obscure programming language on my display

[sleek agate]

what are you talking about

[brave goblet]

Me when I rerolled only 6 times the whole game (i had a bull)

[wintry ice]

hi chat what are people talking about

[tawdry burrow]

not to be confused with the similarly named BASIC programming language

[sleek agate]

i don’t know i’m asking the other guy hi vic

[calm furnace]

that naneinf on gold stake is easy

[proven ember]

I HAVE IT

[sleek agate]

no they said its not that much easier than gold stake

[proven ember]

JOKERLESSS IS DONE

[sleek agate]

they never said its easy

[rancid niche]

Wrong again, white stake and gold stake are kind of different, but again it's not that different to go for naneinf on gold stake, it's difficult on white stake and more difficult on gold stake but it's not an entirely different game and it's not impossible

[patent sail]

if you cant get good naneinf jokers early just dont get them, its that simple 🥀 lowk balatro is easy, you just play cards and win

[terse vale]

vic
are whitestake naneinf runs and gold stake naneinf runs atleast somewhat the same in difficulty

[proven ember]

YEEEEES

[rancid niche]

Congrats!

[proven ember]

After 3 weeks

[wintry ice]

naneinf on gold stake either entails getting through plasma gold stake or rerolling for perkeo and cryptid

[calm furnace]

oh

[terse vale]

like is one only a bit easier

[granite sandal]

"yeah, we have photochad at home"
the photochad at home:

[shut patrol]

reading hard

[calm furnace]

gold stake and naneinf are two different games. the deck and the jokers for naneinf are bad for gold stake lmao

[sleek agate]

white stake and gold stake are different in the sense that you can win doing whatever on white stake whereas gold stake requires you to know what to do at each step of the game

[fringe nebula]

good job

[calm furnace]

whats your naneinf gold stake steak?

[proven ember]

Finally, only 100 stickers left and I have finished c++

[shut patrol]

you cannot naninf a white stake by not knowing what you're doing so in that sense they both require you to preplan. just obviously with gs you can't be a complete doofus and pick a +mult eternal

[rancid niche]

Bad for early antes not for the stake itself, the same jokers that win gold stake can win white stake and vise versa, you don't need to carry baron and mime from ante 1 lol

[royal bobcat]

Only 66% of the roster left!

[wintry ice]

it shouldn't be hard to think that being stripped of your resources makes a part of the game based on getting as many resources as possible harder

[calm furnace]

lol

[terse vale]

sometimes you need the +mult eternal to survive

[patent sail]

so what if you die withoit picking that +mult eternal?

[proven ember]

Wdym?

[sleek agate]

things like this is why im happy to have moved on from balatro

[wintry ice]

which means you need to think about when you should pivot to baron

[sleek agate]

yet im here

so i havent

[terse vale]

I would love to comb through gs seeds that don’t require any survival eternals but I do not know how to code

[rancid niche]

And that implies if you know what you're doing, you can probably do it

[vocal rose]

what

[terse vale]

I don’t really know what a psp is idk

[calm furnace]

skill issues smh

[proven ember]

This is me rn

[sleek agate]

i can make extremely suboptimal plays in white stake and still win without using all of its mechanics, which is almost impossible on an average gold stake

[wintry ice]

uh yeah if you know what you're doing gold stake jokerless is as feasable as white stake

[calm furnace]

you can win white stake full skipping every blind 😭

[royal bobcat]

There are 150 jokers in the game
If younre missing 100 stickers that means you only have 50 stickers
50:150 = 0.33333 or 1/3 or 33%
So you're missing 0.666666 or 2/3 or 67% of the stickers

[proven ember]

There's 1200 stickers

[patent sail]

8 for each joker i think

[proven ember]

Ya

[patent sail]

because 8 stakes

[royal bobcat]

why do you cound green stake stickers

[rancid niche]

It's difficult but possible

[royal bobcat]

only the gold one matters 😭

[rancid niche]

And you don't need a unique set of circumstances to achieve it

[terse vale]

for completion basically yea

if you actually had to get each individual sticker that would suck

[proven ember]

I need to count how many jokers left In gold, yea, the gold is main goal, but all stickers do count

[terse vale]

thank the thunk

[wintry ice]

difficult enough for there to be a large difference between it and white stake naneinf

[proven ember]

Brb gonna count

[vocal rose]

my main goal is to blow up

[wintry ice]

as someone else said, having to take an early eternal for survival basically dooms the run

[rancid niche]

My mango

[calm furnace]

even eternal baron and mime are a problem lol

[rancid niche]

True that makes things a lot harder

[vocal rose]

we’re getting REAL complex here

[calm furnace]

the key to naneinf is having the flexibility to buy and sell

[vocal rose]

this is some differential calculus level

maybe someone is gonna say “balatro is a card game…” next

[calm furnace]

is there any recorded gold stake naneinf streak?

[vocal rose]

probably not lmao

[wintry ice]

rentals and purple stake scaling also starve you of cash which you need thousands of to get to the desired score

[rancid niche]

I don't know about streak but it's possible on a random seed without legendaries

[wintry ice]

i think doc has done it

idk who else

[rancid niche]

He has

[calm furnace]

a streak of naneinfs?

[proven ember]

32 jokers, with around 4 without any stickers

[terse vale]

I thought there was just calculus
what is a differential and why is it infront of an already hard subject im fuuuuucked for senior year

[wintry ice]

just 1 on gold stake

[calm furnace]

out of how many tries?

[wintry ice]

idk

[calm furnace]

which proves its not feasible

[shell dagger]

tbf i agree with this

i would also bet most people here haven’t attempted naneinf gold stake

[molten thicket]

my lucky cards just went 3/3 for $20 hits

[rancid niche]

I was talking about how difficult it is today lol

[molten thicket]

????

[calm furnace]

roffle has a career of doing that

[proven ember]

Missing 21% of stickers

[rancid niche]

Sorry you're gonna die

[calm furnace]

and surprise surprise he rarely naneinfs on gold stake

[rancid niche]

That's just how it is

[terse vale]

I mean its not rocket science but its really really hard to get harder than ws naninf

[proven ember]

In reality, only 32 joekrs

[rancid niche]

Your luck exceeded the regular amount

[molten thicket]

i just sold a foil scholar and judgement gave me a foil scholar???

[shell dagger]

calculus is split into 2 sections at the hs level: differentiation and integration

[proven ember]

It's doable, I ave beaten Jokerless, I can do anything atm

[shell dagger]

but differential calculus is easier tbh

[calm furnace]

roffle plays unopitmally because he always wants to go to endless on gold stake and he doesnt naneinf

is roffle bad?

[terse vale]

na he just doesnt try his hardest im sure

its allllll for the thumbnail

[calm furnace]

streamer luck is not enough these days

[honest dawn]

I don't understand the people who say Canio is bad, honestly, it's great even for playing with figures.

[calm furnace]

no one in recorded history said canio is bad

[terse vale]

well

[shell dagger]

it’s not bad, just not a free win

[calm furnace]

its still a free win just not as free as yorick

[honest dawn]

No Joker is a free win; it depends on the game conditions.

[shell dagger]

u could just get unlucky and not see any way of destroying face cards in 4 antes

[terse vale]

ive seen crazy stuff said here that im not sure is ragebait

[shell dagger]

yorick is

[rancid niche]

Yk what I'm gonna do a legendary-less unseeded naneinf run on gold stake just to prove that anyone that knows how to naneinf on white stake can do it on gold stake

[orchid peak]

2 soul is crazy

[terse vale]

wrong baron is a free win

[honest dawn]

Yorick, neither will you; if you get it too late, you won't climb it much.

[patent sail]

no one ever said its bad 🥀 yes i nevr get to scale him which is why i dont like him, but i know he is really good

[calm furnace]

ante 8 yorick is not free win tho

[calm furnace]

early yorick is the best card in the game

[honest dawn]

Yeah

[vocal rose]

rebate….

[honest dawn]

Yorick in the early game is amazing

[patent sail]

ante 1 baron 🎀🎀 trust 💗

[terse vale]

okayyyyyy

[calm furnace]

rebate is good late or early doesnt matter

[vocal rose]

it’s funny how you can actually make an argument for rebate>yorick early

[honest dawn]

Perkeo is better than rebate in gold stake, but Perkeo is undervalued in gold.

[vocal rose]

no it isn’t

rebate clears perkeo

[wintry ice]

did you mean to say white stake or

[terse vale]

with rebate your money just does not go under 25

or 30 tbh

[calm furnace]

white perkeo is almost different joker than gold perkeo

[terse vale]

isn’t perkeo already white

[honest dawn]

If you want to use Perkeo as a budget Joker, it's better.

It always generates 20 in money, or even more with temperance.

And it's guaranteed.

[calm furnace]

for gold stake perkeo's value is to copy hermits/temprance for econ and be sold later

[honest dawn]

He's also the best Joker for deck fixing.

[terse vale]

wait
perky-oh or per-kay-oh

[shell dagger]

2

[calm furnace]

not really vagabond is way better

[patent sail]

plinko

[woven spire]

hi chat

[calm furnace]

pekreo for copying deaths/cryptid is too slow without blueprint/brainstorm

[terse vale]

helloooo

[patent sail]

hi cleb

[honest dawn]

It ruins your economy, but it's still better than Perkeo; it's just that I think Perkeo is generally the best support in the game.

[woven spire]

hiii

[calm furnace]

yeah but vagabond is (with enough luck) so fast that you only use it for few rounds and dump it

[proven ember]

I think I did bad, after 3 weeks of Jokerless I forgot how to play normal runs with joker xD

[honest dawn]

Yes, that's clearly how I use it.

But that doesn't change the fact that your interest will be bad for a few rounds.

However, that doesn't happen with Perkeo.

[woven spire]

happened to me when i gold staked plasma deck

[vocal rose]

yes it will be bad, but the trade off far surpasses the downside

[calm furnace]

with vagabond you wanna hold into termpance

[proven ember]

I need to lelearn the game

[calm furnace]

also gift card and egg and gold cards are amazing to keep your econ going

[shell dagger]

idk vagabond and perkeo are too different to compare even though they both produce consumables

[woven spire]

weird seeing a game discussion in game discussion

[terse vale]

vaga also gets gold cards

[calm furnace]

we are talking which is better as a deck fixer

[woven spire]

lmao so true

[shell dagger]

yh i can read

[honest dawn]

So, for deck fixing, Vagabond is better, but in general terms, Perkeo is better.

[calm furnace]

lore inaccurate

[patent sail]

so anyways

we love splash

[royal bobcat]

i love canio

hes my favorite

[calm furnace]

i seriously slept on splash

he good

[honest dawn]

Splash is underrated

[calm furnace]

instant pickup for me thse days when doing pair lobotomy

its amazing chip generator until you get blue seals

[patent sail]

i do pair lobotomy and dont touch it, mostly because it wont even change anything by the time i find it or will make it worse (bus jumpscare)

it can uses like any other joker, ofc

[calm furnace]

i used to ignore it

until it saved a few runs

yeah it dont play nice with bus

[patent sail]

i mean i picked it up once and it was good

i dont even remember what it was doing there but it was important for whatever i was doing

[shell dagger]

wee and ticket merchant

[honest dawn]

The idea is that if you're playing even numbers and, for example, you have a ballot, you use a splash card to also activate lucky cards or glass cards.

Or to cards with a gold seal

[patent sail]

i mean ywah i get that

[calm furnace]

splash is a great source of chips for a1-a3 to transition into mercury farming

[patent sail]

i definitely see a use of sneaking in an enhancement that wouodnt score otherwise

[hidden lance]

couldnt draw 3 pairs in 7 rounds. unbelieveable

[patent sail]

jimbo had enough of your pair slop

[acoustic kettle]

Skill issue

[calm furnace]

its also a good companion to vamp

[shell dagger]

breaking news: hand size is goated

wait it’s ante 10 u already won

[hidden lance]

okay but its certificate

[twin rune]

Lately won a run purely because splash let me have way more shots at business card so yeah come to realise I've definitely been too harsh on it

[royal bobcat]

2 hand size really is worth a joker slot

painted my beloved

[keen pilot]

Would you believe me if I said that I found the one build where Sixth Sense would be detrimental and potentially even run-killing? xP

[devout sierra]

yo can anyone give me some advice for painted deck

[devout sierra]

give me advice

[tacit quail]

i wish cards unplayed in played hand counted as discarded

[tacit quail]

6s 5oak build

[modern panther]

Ggs

[keen pilot]

Well, all basic principles apply: get econ, find good jokers
Since you got extra hand size you can play bigger hands easier

[undone depot]

7/6 joker slots

[modern panther]

Probably could have gotten farther of it was a glass build

[modern panther]

Negative invis?

[undone depot]

nooo

idk what happened

[keen pilot]

Abandoned deck, playing straights
Since there are no face cards, most potential straights contain a 6, so getting rid of them would mean I lose over 80% of potential straights lol

[fallen ingot]

does this 4 in 2 chance work double or is that not a thing?

[keen pilot]

Nope, I don’t think so

[tacit quail]

a-5 peak though

just discard everything over 6 fuck them cards

[shell dagger]

probabilities higher than 1 act the same as a probability of 1

don’t get double hits

[tacit quail]

I want free mystery boxes in my balatro

Wait a second we have those

Mods

[smoky merlin]

cool announcement

[keen pilot]

What’s with these bots lately? Or is that pretty common?

[smoky merlin]

pretty common

[proven ember]

What to do?

[molten thicket]

unusually common for a server about a card game

[shell dagger]

Usually it’s accounts getting compromised then posting nonsense twitter screenshots

This one was an account made today

[tacit quail]

they know balatro players love GAMBLING

Gamble Now

[keen pilot]

I’ve only seen a few here, all of which were in the last couple days lol
Tho I guess I just wasn’t active enough to see them before

[shell dagger]

Sell brainstorm for blueprint and obelisk

[stark karma]

Unusually common? Sooooo

[proven ember]

Should I sell the rented brainstorm to buy blueprint+ Obelisk?

[shell dagger]

flush stack -> anything but flushes

[proven ember]

Aight

[tacit quail]

pair stack is better if you were already on em

[shell dagger]

Flush stack is better on checkered

[tacit quail]

Flush Stake is my fav

[devout sierra]

ill be real i wouldve ran different but polychrome pair buff came in and now im stuck wondering which to replace

[proven ember]

T-T

[shell dagger]

Fuh yeah

[ancient gyro]

ante 3 wizard

[acoustic kettle]

Baner

Wait is that jolly or sly

[modern panther]

Huge abandoned run

[devout sierra]

sly

[acoustic kettle]

Baner

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[acoustic kettle]

This is huge in any deck

This is what my dreams are made of

[serene forge]

this is huge anywhere

rebate bus sponkler banana

[modern panther]

Jesus Christ

[summer steppe]

someone help

what do i do here

[modern panther]

Chat we've done it

[summer steppe]

running red sealed lucky kings

[modern panther]

[acoustic kettle]

You can sell something

[summer steppe]

right

question is what

[acoustic kettle]

Hmm

Idk actually

[modern panther]

Take my advice with a grain of salt, tho; I've only golded one deck

[summer steppe]

ehich deck

[acoustic kettle]

You could get rid of photo but then the scoring is total rng

[molten thicket]

i think you sell bloodstone here??

i think?

[acoustic kettle]

Or sell bloodstone yeah

Or sell chad

?

[molten thicket]

there's an argument to be made to not take the bs

actually selling chad might be good

[acoustic kettle]

Sell blueprint clearly

[modern panther]

Do I take it chat

[patent sail]

splash? ofc

[acoustic kettle]

But then again the scoring is more rng without chad

[molten thicket]

i think you sell bloodstone here though

[summer steppe]

how sure are u

[molten thicket]

yeah

[summer steppe]

im ante 11 praying for an idol

[acoustic kettle]

You can use balatro calculator if you're not sure

[modern panther]

Actually, that might not be a bad idea, considering I can't seem to draw a pair of 2s

[summer steppe]

i tried the answer wasnt clear..

[molten thicket]

selling bloodstone is the safest choice

and it isnt bad

[acoustic kettle]

Well yeah because bloodstone is rng

[summer steppe]

bc of the lucky cards its super random

yea that too

[patent sail]

meh splash isnt the play here at all tbh, it wont change like anything i believe

sure you can slam in a glass maybe but do you need to

[modern panther]

Anyway, do I take the trading card?

[patent sail]

trading card will kill garbage and also pay you for doing so, i do believe you do

get rid of spaceman tbh

[acoustic kettle]

But but

[alpine rapids]

What I do?

[acoustic kettle]

Spaceman

[acoustic kettle]

What would compel you to take eternal pareidolia

Fuck i can't type

It ia not good grammar

My brain is shot

[distant thunder]

Pray

[acoustic kettle]

[molten thicket]

why did you take an eternal pareidolia

[patent sail]

brains are gross and slimey

im glad to not have one

[alpine rapids]

I didn't think the plant would come out

[acoustic kettle]

Pareidolia is a shit joker anyway

An eternal at that

[patent sail]

ITS NOT EVEN A PLANT

its mark 😭

[alpine rapids]

Sorry, I made a mistake

[acoustic kettle]

Well best bet you have is just lose

Or save scum ig

[patent sail]

🐴

quit horsing around

[acoustic kettle]

Also ante 5 round 9

[alpine rapids]

That doesn't change the fact that I lost everything.

[patent sail]

pareidolia is cringe

another joker that seems fun, but most of the time not gonna do much

[molten thicket]

pareidolia is swag

[patent sail]

definitely has use cases, like anything else

[molten thicket]

baseball card food

[patent sail]

but like idk

[patent sail]

plant and mark food

[tacit quail]

Fuck vessel

had vessel 3 a8s in arow now

not happy

[alpine rapids]

So I lost, is it already lost the game? 🥺

[molten thicket]

basically

[patent sail]

save scum maybe idk

[molten thicket]

if you want you can savescum

[patent sail]

may take a long ass while tho

[molten thicket]

but atp just restart

[patent sail]

yeah

not worth it

[alpine rapids]

Alright

[wicked mango]

Took ouija while I'm using runner and got 4 straights in a row. Never punished

[tacit quail]

who likes this bullshit build but i have to pivot because um

yeah

we scoring 156k rn

but rip the run

Crazy screenshot

[rich mauve]

: (

[tacit quail]

gg

What a screenshot

synergetic start. time to win

[molten pivot]

i love balatro

[tacit quail]

same thas why im in here

[solid garden]

gyat damn

peak

[tacit quail]

natneg golden ticket just now

great for sticker

[solid garden]

wtfffff

don't throw 🔥 🙏

[tacit quail]

needle soon

high 4oak would get me thru

and i have bean now

well

didnt pull it

😭

rip

new run

r

r

r

[solid garden]

nooooooooooo

rip

[serene forge]

easy game

[acoustic kettle]

27x mult

[vocal rose]

blackboard

[quick cloak]

blackboard is aweosme

[radiant fossil]

Being punished by ecto greed is like reaching for a cheese in a cheese trap

[quick cloak]

696, 2 hands

did u eat rhe cards bro

😭😭😭

[molten thicket]

how do you have 5 hand size

did you sell an ecto negative??

[radiant fossil]

I bought like idk

[hasty onyx]

Selling Luchador to counter Verdant Leaf

[radiant fossil]

My seltzer did

And then left

[dusty zenith]

lol

[unreal gate]

poor cavendish

ill get u for c++ eventually

[patent sail]

selling luchador to counter small blind

[woven spire]

chat guess what happened

[quick cloak]

lowk wasnt even a a bad deck

js had NO xMult

i found a holo on my last reroll before boss

what an absolute legend

🥹🥹🥹

[cerulean spoke]

whats more important jokers or deck

kinda obvious tbh

ok different question

when do i focus on jokers and when on deck

[patent sail]

first you focus on getting jokers

then you focus on making your deck work for them

i think

idk

im not a professional by any means but thats what i do

[leaden ore]

building around flush and this thing pops off on Ante 10

[patent sail]

honestly what function dna is even serving here, did you get some crazy good card to copy 5 billion times?

[quick cloak]

lucky red seal ace

all diamonds

[patent sail]

workable

[quick cloak]

i had trading card but i wasnt bithered to brute force leaf

but giess what

i got it on the shop sfter boss

🤣🤣🤣

dawg came back to life he loves me

[patent sail]

🐴

neigh

[quick cloak]

worlds first ever flush deck builder

[patent sail]

honestly checkered deck is all about those

not that you cant do pairs on it

but it sure allows for that

[leaden ore]

got the burnt joker on my first pack lol

[quick cloak]

W

i had pair at like 60 something

it starts to fall off after a while

[leaden ore]

such a shame game got glitched and not registered the red stake win

[quick cloak]

ooffff

[leaden ore]

[fringe nebula]

???

how

[patent sail]

red stake is not that big of a deal, if it was blue and up then yeah potentially very disappointing

[cloud sinew]

just does that sometimes on mobile

[leaden ore]

great fap mobile issues

im just grateful it didnt happen on my first gold stake win LOL

[stuck crag]

I think something is wrong with my game

[mystic sedge]

1st shop yellow deck black stake what would yall do? i'm leaning toward runner and nothing else. I'm afraid it's too early for flash card but the voucher is telling me otherwise

[patent sail]

no way! 7k dollars

[stuck crag]

Yeppp

[patent sail]

everytging else is fine idk what youre talking about

[plucky shuttle]

I would probably runner and buffoon pack. Me personally

[stuck crag]

The wind is blowing hard here

[sullen aspen]

buffoon and runner

or just buffoon

[mystic sedge]

What is the argument for buffoon?

[patent sail]

joker

✅✅✅✅

[mystic sedge]

Ok

[cloud sinew]

mult source that doesnt require you to spend $15 this shop

[calm furnace]

SLASH THE GOAT

omg

[plucky shuttle]

Gambling

[silk tapir]

Black Deck run

[calm furnace]

if square joker was good it would be splash

[silk tapir]

Burger saved my ass

[calm furnace]

insane run

i should retire after this

[patent sail]

"if square joker was good" what did he mean by that

[calm furnace]

eternal splash gamble paid off im the goat

[silk tapir]

I'd take both just in case I don't find other +Mult

[patent sail]

always gamble

[calm furnace]

my build wouldnt beat VV without splash

[strange compass]

Can you unlock these in seeded runs

[patent sail]

no

[patent sail]

seeded runs block unlocks

just do erratic deck twin

[strange compass]

I did that for diamond one and didn't find a single diamond converting tarot card till ante 9

[patent sail]

i rolled it until i got like 20+ clubs and then did minimal fixing to get all 30

[patent sail]

not lucky enough idk what else to say

erratic deck just makes it easier

[strange compass]

Do you know the best way to "discover" unlocked jokers

[patent sail]

no better way than just play the game and hope to find em

i dont think theres any way to make that process any faster

[leaden ore]

ngl just play white stakes to unlock everything

thats how i did it

[strange compass]

Well anything I can do to make it abit easier

[leaden ore]

and now my runs feel smoother

[patent sail]

ion think anything will

[strange compass]

Ye that is what I am doing currently

[patent sail]

just play the game

[cerulean spoke]

should i be taking all seals I see?

[leaden ore]

also thats how u can learn on how to do all of the combos

[patent sail]

no