🕹・game-discussion

[deft sandal]

it's net positive tho

one of the best spectral packs tbh

if it's not ankh and its ecto, that's the best

[wintry ice]

i won the 50/50 (balatrodle)

[deft sandal]

5 double tags and still not a single voucher skip

and a nat negative hallucination

[dark cairn]

was mime nat negative or ectoplasm'd

[rigid glen]

guys how should I arrange these

[unreal topaz]

temperance value

[deft sandal]

ecto

[rigid glen]

full house

[deft sandal]

I had a holographic rocket and a foiled bull, so it was a safe ecto

[rigid glen]

I died

the fish is so annoying

[deft sandal]

Im just praying that invis hit the blueprint

i should sell mail in rebate and hallucination

OKAYYYY, THIS RUN HAS POTENTIAL

[vast delta]

BOOOM 💥💥💥
i just beat all decks on orange stake

now i just gotta beat them all on gold :)

[deft sandal]

congrats

a step closer to C+

[neat seal]

ah yes negative score

[deft sandal]

i tried it before, it just doesn't give you mult

not even minus your mult

[plain briar]

would DNA help with a straight build

[deft sandal]

no

you would have too much cards of the same rank that it makes you harder to draw a straight

[wintry ice]

yea

[formal shadow]

ankh trib ❓

i figure ill win with this butr

well

i woudlnt even hit trib i have eternals

nevermind chat

[wintry ice]

i'd have duped the queen or made it a purple seal anyways

[eager prawn]

Flush lvl67

[wooden sluice]

with $67 ❤️

[deft sandal]

a voucher skip would be nice :/

[weak relic]

Again, really?

[loud rapids]

i just got unmuted and everything is dead now

I have no idea why i was even muted

[primal eagle]

i almost died from being unable to make a straight that isnt a straight flush

[deft sandal]

ante 0

OH YEAHHH VOUCHER SKIP

[eager prawn]

I understand ya

[deft sandal]

how you even get to -175

[loud rapids]

student loans

[eager prawn]

Every gamblers T.T

[deft sandal]

Gamblers always quit before they hit big

[loud rapids]

that’s why I don’t stop
and lose

[eager prawn]

Fact

[manic zealot]

shortcut with burnt is pretty epic ngl

[eager prawn]

Average straight lover

[loud rapids]

I use flushes and nothing else because uhhh it works

[deft sandal]

the first time I got to ante 18

[eager prawn]

Yeah

[deft sandal]

e100 not bad

[loud rapids]

I did not mean to horse react

[deft sandal]

[eager prawn]

Or u could just use the bug

[deft sandal]

Im setting game speed to 0.5 so I can get both blank and antimatter

i didn't even get blank

bruh

[weak relic]

Where Ox

[manic zealot]

Ox is my next boss blind

[white trellis]

can anyone like, guide me through a run? is that a thing people do? I don't know what i'm doing wrong, i've watched a bunch of the balatro uni vids, but I just cannot make any progress on black deck, and I want to see what i'm doign wrong

[loud rapids]

welp time to say bye to any money you had

[deft sandal]

like WHAT, How do I not have blank

[loud rapids]

that’s insane

[eager prawn]

Just free style vro

[manic zealot]

nah my most played is pair so I'm safe, plus I have a scaled rocket

[eager prawn]

Bruh

[deft sandal]

I got 22 vouchers out of 32

[loud rapids]

oops all 6s + lucky cards is my only strategy because im stubborn

[white trellis]

i have been trying to do this for what feels like over a hundred runs, and it seems impossible to get very far

[eager prawn]

What's your goal

[frank grove]

black deck on what stake?

[loud rapids]

hanging chad is good that’s all I know

[white trellis]

white stake

i just need to get to ante 8

[weak relic]

Okay, rip Hex

[deft sandal]

I have to get a antimatter before ante 24 or Im cooked

[eager prawn]

Sell it

[white trellis]

i've never gotten past 7

[eager prawn]

U should unlock all the jokers first I guess

[wintry ice]

honestly i wouldn't even have checked the buffoon pack

this is pretty fortunate either way

[white trellis]

i have 106, i figured that should be enough

[tepid skiff]

you have pallete and an ecto you can probably beat 24

[deft sandal]

I just have to reroll into cerulean bell and I might be good

[slow epoch]

I am not going to sleep tonight

[eager prawn]

T.T

[slow epoch]

Idk if the observatory can get me to naninf

[deft sandal]

what's that in the top left corner

[slow epoch]

Flare video

[deft sandal]

ooh

[manic zealot]

man scaled straights do a lot

too bad they're usually so hard to play consistently

[slow epoch]

I’ve been perkeoing erides in preparation

[eager prawn]

I hate straight

[deft sandal]

i think I can take the petroglyph, right?

[manic zealot]

I normally do but I won't say no to an early shortcut

[eager prawn]

Yeah but I prefer modifying the deck

Flush five and High card is the best

[eager prawn]

Gay

[slow iris]

pair and flush house

[deft sandal]

23rd voucher cleared and blank still hasnt showed up

[eager prawn]

Don't hate throwback u creep

[deft sandal]

i have the gay deck and a stone card

i just got the tarot merchant and I have 24/32 vouchers and blank still hasn't shown up

[weak relic]

Now watch me die to the eye next next ante

[slow epoch]

oh no, my eris levels, whatever shall I do

[weak relic]

I fucking knew it

[deft sandal]

Im scared to reroll the shop, cause I feel like I would reroll into a brainstorm and I cant take it without antimatter

[deft sandal]

you didn't take the photo???

[weak relic]

Wont help me much

[deft sandal]

with blueprint copying photo, you might get through

ah yes, observatory before blank

my 25th voucher

[loud rapids]

This game really doesn’t want you to have antimatter

[deft sandal]

fr

[loud rapids]

reroll next round for no reason at all

[deft sandal]

I've taken a voucher skip with 5 double tags and it didn't even generate blank

[serene forge]

Why do people like bloodstone?

Shit is so inconsistent and ends up fucking killing you if you rely on it at all. And if you get an oops, ur basically spending 2 joker slots on bloodstone.

Also flushes scale horribly so why would you use xmult in that hand?

I think bloodstone might be this game's most overrated card.

I've gotten gold stake on like 8 deck or 9 I don't remember so I'm not the best but I'm pretty aight.

[frank grove]

Bloodstone is so bad

[zealous zinc]

because retriggers are funny

and i disagree the most overrated card is clearly obelisk

it SUCKS!!!!

[frank grove]

????

[loud rapids]

I use bloodstone.

[frank grove]

obelisk has won me dozens and dozens of runs its the goat

[zealous zinc]

stop lying bro....

obelisk more like

uhh

crap be lisk

haha got em

[frank grove]

it sucks on white stake and in endless but like gold stake to ante 8 boss it wins easily

[loud rapids]

obelisk more like obelishit

[deft sandal]

my 26th voucher 😭

[loud rapids]

oh my god

[zealous zinc]

its good in every context but endless

[deft sandal]

...

[zealous zinc]

but also endless is the only REAL thing that matters... OBVIOUSLY

so yea its CRAPBELISK

[frank grove]

yeah and i dont play endless anymore

[loud rapids]

no blank ante 21

[deft sandal]

If a blank voucher shows up now, at least it would give me hope for antimatter

[zealous zinc]

this is so cooked

no voucher skip either?

[loud rapids]

I get blank like ante 3 dude what the hell is happening to you

[deft sandal]

I've taken the voucher skip, and nothing useful shows up

[zealous zinc]

you could do the voucher skip tech qhere u get the voucher skip, buy blank instantly so the voucher skip gives u the upgrade

[zealous zinc]

rippp

[deft sandal]

I've taken the skip with 5 double tags

[frank grove]

yeah

thats super unlucky

[zealous zinc]

yea bro ur cooked 😭

[loud rapids]

Istg next ante is not gonna give you blank somehow

[frank grove]

i mean there are still quite a few left

[zealous zinc]

it very well might not

theres a few vouchers no?

[deft sandal]

i might be able to survive to ante 24

with all red sealed steel

and cerulean bean

[loud rapids]

bean

[zealous zinc]

bean

did u do the crimson bean strat

wait what is cerulean bean, if u didnt mean bell

[loud rapids]

mewtwo + bean

cuz of cerulean cave

[deft sandal]

yeah, I need bean for extra hand size to beat that

[hardy fable]

skill issue

[zealous zinc]

ah dropping dna for bean

[deft sandal]

yes

[loud rapids]

I posted that like 5 minutes ago why is it now getting replied to

[hardy fable]

cause I just joined in witnessing another player can't use the 2nd best rare joker

we all know who's 1st cough cough

[serene forge]

i fell asleep

[loud rapids]

Is it stuntman

[frank grove]

stuntgoat

[hardy fable]

atleast you know that

[zealous zinc]

obelisk more like worse than stuntman

[deft sandal]

if there's a balatro god, please give me a nat negative brainstorm. i dont want to search for blank anymore

[serene forge]

orangutan

[loud rapids]

stuntman and paintbrush voucher goes hard

[deft sandal]

YOOOO

[loud rapids]

ITS REAL

[deft sandal]

RUN MIGHT BE SAVED

[loud rapids]

THE BLANK VOUCHER IS REL

[frank grove]

huge, now you just got to hit the 1/5 or is it 1/4 next ante!!

[hardy fable]

🤔 just after I sent a Pic of me ascending into a god 🤔

Definitely not a coincidence

[loud rapids]

stuntman and paintbrush voucher would go hard

[deft sandal]

i feel like it's either overstock plus or antimatter

[frank grove]

im hoping for antimatter

[deft sandal]

just full rerolling for serpent

[loud rapids]

get rerolling sniper the serpent is probably somewhere in there

[deft sandal]

imagine naneinf here

[loud rapids]

only time will tell

literally

[deft sandal]

let's see how close it is

[weak relic]

[loud rapids]

dam

[deft sandal]

i have to beat ante 24

[vast grove]

you need a burgerler on god

[frank grove]

could you nan right now if you got burglar and rerolled serp?

[loud rapids]

god fucking damn it

[deft sandal]

i should definitely sell the DNA for brainstorm

[loud rapids]

do it

[slow pine]

Chat

What do I do

Sock my buskin

Or straight duskin it

[loud rapids]

no more dusk

[deft sandal]

One reroll and into the serpent, nice

[loud rapids]

wow

[unborn onyx]

ayyyy im walking here

what do i do

[left wave]

holy shit nso reference

[loud rapids]

uhhh idk

[unborn onyx]

THE blueprint

:(

[loud rapids]

The only thing you can do is cry

[hardy fable]

jitapftcc🗣️

[deft sandal]

hmm

[loud rapids]

Ok let’s see

[deft sandal]

and it isn't even antimatter

[loud rapids]

Sufferage

[hardy fable]

o7?

[deft sandal]

29th voucher

[loud rapids]

30th time the charm

[deft sandal]

If i can even get to 30th

[unborn onyx]

n dont knwo what this means

[hardy fable]

judgement In the arcana pack for the credit card

[hardy fable]

duh

[deft sandal]

BEANNN

[unborn onyx]

mmm beans

[loud rapids]

Bean

[frank grove]

beaner!!

selling a bp for it?

[deft sandal]

violet bean

[frank grove]

you got this

i think

[deft sandal]

easier to find a brainstorm then another blueprint

[frank grove]

yeah

[unborn onyx]

since you are so smart with one, the ledt or the right one

[hardy fable]

the ledt one

yeah

[frank grove]

surely antimatter shows up

[unborn onyx]

hey thats not a credit card

sad

[weak relic]

Polychrome in da weel

[hardy fable]

yeah but it's a polychrome shoot the moon

[weak relic]

[deft sandal]

might be cooked

[unborn onyx]

bye-bye bluepawprint

[loud rapids]

can o’ turtle beans

[frank grove]

o7

[hardy fable]

o7

[loud rapids]

07

[weak relic]

Rip

o7

[loud rapids]

o7

[deft sandal]

a lot closer than expected

[loud rapids]

this is so tragic

[glossy forge]

I lost my five win streak to greed zzzzz

[zealous zinc]

am i crazy or is this not optimal

[frank grove]

probably one bp on mime would be better maybe?

[deft sandal]

I switched the mime to 2nd slot in the next hand

so you see a boost of score

[frank grove]

yeah its just not enough

[deft sandal]

from e72 to e76

still not enough

still 100x away

[loud rapids]

yikes

[silver talon]

holy shit

[loud rapids]

wow

[errant brook]

Guys...

[loud rapids]

what does one need so many plutos for are we making a giant planet with them

[silver talon]

and a chad too

[errant brook]

Do 20 x 1.5^280

[loud rapids]

I have the intelligence of a door hinge I can’t math

[errant brook]

4.0418718e+50

That's my base high card score right now lol

[loud rapids]

why tho

that’s too much high card

[errant brook]

IT'S HAPPENING

[loud rapids]

photo

[errant brook]

what

Screw that

[slow epoch]

I swear to god I have seen like 5 of these

I can’t even use them

[silver talon]

yo

[slow epoch]

Trib is the only good hit, but I’d have to sell the idol

[loud rapids]

what do you sell?

[silver talon]

dna cause i have enough of the card i want

[weak relic]

[silver talon]

oh come on its an idol

[errant brook]

https://www.twitch.tv/thelonewolf527

If anyone wants to watch me finally hitting this goal live

Granted it's gonna be a whole lot of playing 1 card and waiting lol

[weak relic]

Okay imma take mental illness

[silver talon]

dude there is a showman as well

im playing this seed on white stake after cause holy shit

[errant brook]

Holy crap I forgot how slow this was lol I want to play it without the speed mods

[weak relic]

maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

[stark kettle]

Where would be the best spot for my blueprint and brainstorm?

[weak relic]

Why won't the game let me have fun

[stiff ore]

say how does madness or sac dagger work with eternal jokers

[atomic trout]

Which.. voucher..?

[neon kettle]

depends if you’re getting scoring mostly off cards played or cards in hand. Baron is a completely different strategy compared to
Photochad/sock

[frank grove]

it just wont destroy them, madness gains the x mult without any jokers anyway, and dagger just cant destroy it so it wont gain double its sell value

[stiff ore]

ahh okya

wastn sure

[stark kettle]

My hand size is unfortunately 6

[neon kettle]

you might want to consider selling Baron then

[stark kettle]

That’s my cards mostly lucky kings

Who should I be rolling for in likely losing in this next ante

Im*

[neon kettle]

You want to look for an Idol

that’s the only thing that would really keep you alive at this point, aside from a Triboulet which is the same thing anyways

a Dusk could also be okay

the problem with photograph is that you’re only getting those x2’s on the first card

[stark kettle]

Gotcha should I move the blueprint to my lucky cat?

[restive adder]

any real gamers able to help with a specific seed? I've been trying for hours and the furthest I've gotten is ante 5:
UV5UKUFX Nebula Gold Stake

[tepid skiff]

about to try it :3

[neon kettle]

With the current setup I’m not 100% certain on the math but I believe the answer is yes, you’d be getting the best score with your brainstorm and blueprint on lucky cat. That being said, if you’re able to score enough without being on lucky cat, you could try to copy the sock with both jokers instead. It still gives some score (because of photograph) but more importantly you’re getting more lucky triggers to potentially hit money and also get a bit more score out of cat later

or like, do a couple hands copying Sock for the lucky card triggers and then on your last hand switch the copy jokers to cat

[patent sail]

how it feels to be 1 dollar short

[stark kettle]

Okay sweet I appreciate the help

[errant brook]

We did it boys

[quartz ember]

for max score, copy photo with one and chad with one (until lucky cat hits 16x, then all copies on cat), for max value copy sock with both

[quartz ember]

nice!

[errant brook]

And now to get a naneinf and still lose

[alpine halo]

fym ante 34

oh nvm

naneinf is

39 not 33

[alpine halo]

and a mega arcana

sweeeet

[errant brook]

MTH93BR6

The seed

[stiff ore]

im debating between moon and hermit honestly

[errant brook]

This is BY FAR the best seed I've gotten to get to ante 39. The Baron I got decently early due to the game giving me "High card sets money to 0" and me trying to see if I could find planet cards to combat it

[stiff ore]

jesus

ive not even made it to e's yet

[errant brook]

Don't sweat about that

If you haven't gotten Es there's probably other stuff in the game you still haven't done

[stiff ore]

oh i know there is

[quartz ember]

its a different game

[stiff ore]

its just a skill issue lol

[errant brook]

Outside of gold stake naneinf or doing this WITHOUT cryptid I don't really have much else I need to do

[stiff ore]

im still missing 1 joker to unlock

[errant brook]

it's probably glass joker or one of the stone jokers

or I guess it could be a legendary

[stiff ore]

$400 joker

[errant brook]

You haven't got $400 yet?

[stiff ore]

i was missing canio too until recently

closest ive gotten is $297

[errant brook]

Is that the rocket ship I can't remember

[patent sail]

nah, satellite

[stiff ore]

no i need to check which one it is

[quartz ember]

satellite

[stiff ore]

ah okay

[errant brook]

Oh that's right

Satellite usually not that great anyway

[stiff ore]

its the only one still locked

[errant brook]

If you want to brute force unlock it, play on Anaglyph deck and save up all your skip tags for some kind of money skip

[stiff ore]

yeah i have been trying, but then i find negatives and i just cant resist the fun

[errant brook]

Otherwise, gold cards + mime or copy jokers + Mail In Rebate and stuff

[atomic trout]

What a loss...

[patent sail]

truth nuke

whenever i see negative skip i just cant resist it

[errant brook]

I almost never take the negative skip now

It almost never works

[stark karma]

WOW
with 4 jokers left to sticker I managed to sticker 3 in one run, (the middle three)
whoever can guess the last joker I have to sticker gets a kiss on the cheek
It's a joker I've literally never stickered period, not even on white stake
(that's a hint)

[errant brook]

It's one of the two Stone Jokers

Marble Joker vs Stone Joker? Is that the other one?

[patent sail]

okay but have you considered that 90% of gamblers quit before they hit negative perishable joker

[stiff ore]

ive had some fun with negatives

[stark karma]

nope!

its an insane one

[errant brook]

Baron

[stark karma]

I can give hints if youd like

[errant brook]

Otherwise we're just gonna name all 150

I assume it's not a legendary

[stark karma]

"It's a joker I've literally never stickered period, not even on white stake" is a hint

[patent sail]

joker

like

jimbo

[stark karma]

no but funny

[errant brook]

Merry Andy

[stark karma]

this sentence is a hint

[errant brook]

Is there a play on words or is the hint "the joker sucks ass"

[stark karma]

I dont have him even stickered

[errant brook]

OH

Ice Cream

or Popcorn

[stark karma]

should I tell you :P

[errant brook]

"him"

is that a hint

Yeah just say it

[stark karma]

a different word in that sentence lmao

[errant brook]

what

OH

Even Steven

[stark karma]

YES LMAOOO

[errant brook]

How have you never accidentally won with that

[stark karma]

no fucking clue

I just always got cockblocked by something else

[errant brook]

My last joker for C++ was Chicot

[stark karma]

fascinating

[errant brook]

Finding him was the larger issue

Funny though, he was the MVP of the run I won

Because the only thing that could stop me was the bosses and he just nuked all of them so it was free unless I threw

[stark karma]

this run had like an ante 3 sock and plenty of chads but I was focused on reserving space for ones I was missing lol

[restive adder]

gl!

[stark karma]

golden ticket was massive

[stark karma]

he's the Chigoat for a reason

[gusty moth]

ughhh i hate orange stake

[lost vault]

purr

[lost vault]

2 jollies???

[patent sail]

cryptid core

[gusty moth]

i got ankh on round 1 ante 1

[tepid skiff]

M joker would be good here

[lost vault]

which one

[tepid skiff]

uhm

[patent sail]

THE ONE TIME I GET A DECENT ENOUGH RUN TO WIN BLUE STAKE

[loud rapids]

Euthanise horse quick time event

also uhh

bye

[tepid skiff]

https://balatromods.miraheze.org/wiki/Cryptid/m

[patent sail]

i got boss reroll in the shop right before it, insane save

[lost vault]

oki

[tepid skiff]

:3

[lost vault]

cryptiding it

[deft sandal]

absolutely no use for my naneinf run

[tepid skiff]

isn't the only way to naneinf with trib/idol from either crimson bean or double chicot

[deft sandal]

is it even possible to naneinf with trib?

[mellow cypress]

more than double chicot but yes

[tepid skiff]

let me check balatro calculator

[mellow cypress]

crimson bean + 5 card hands

with trib and redseal steel

it is just baromime with more steps

[frank grove]

this seed is tough as hell

[lost vault]

"my naneinf run"
look inside
0 naneinf tech

[deft sandal]

baron mime is more reliable

[restive adder]

even with a seed analyzer I just can't find a way out

[frank grove]

i got 48k on ante 5 boss but the flint is just tough

[deft sandal]

spacemen do be doing his work

[mellow cypress]

the sheer RNG you need for a perfect chicot manacle run is fucked up, let alone good crimson bean

[lost vault]

or alternatively you can ise the handsize to "pay" for more jokers using ectoplasma

[deft sandal]

I have red sealed gold kings, I just need to find the jonkers i need

[patent sail]

get doc to play it 🗣🔥💯

[mellow cypress]

yes but it drops off QUICK, that also means you need trib, tons of copies, perkeo (100% necessary unless u got infinitesimal spectral RNG)

but also enough money to get online

[tepid skiff]

18 joker slots or 9 tribs/idols and 9 socks

[lost vault]

perkeo isnt technically needed no

[mellow cypress]

you can with idol a LOT easier

with eternals

just ecto ankh

with perky

[deft sandal]

with plasma?

[mellow cypress]

its why trib is worse for the scenario

[tepid skiff]

yess

[lost vault]

yes but thats one time

this trib idea can get to ante 39

[mellow cypress]

again, infinitesimal seed RNG, it has been done

you WILL NOT find ts random seeded

need to plan and route like mad

constantly

[lost vault]

no shit sherlock

[mellow cypress]

but again, black stake

[tepid skiff]

Im gonna check with perkeo ovseravtory

[mellow cypress]

perkeo observatory on mars or eris

with trib

youd need to be copying them very very early

if you get enough ectos and can even use em, doable

[lost vault]

not technically necessary but sure

could also be ceres

or planet x

or earth

[tepid skiff]

the answer is with 8 joker slots which should be achievable without weird glitches it will take 615 eris

so probably not very achievable

[lost vault]

its been done

i think

idol naneijf

[frank grove]

well you would use some of eris to help the score

[lost vault]

not seeded

[neon kettle]

Doc has probably done it

[lost vault]

i remember seeing someone else do it

but yes

doc has done naneinf with just perkatory

which is

a fuck lot of planets

[frank grove]

doc did nan inf stencil which is fun

[tepid skiff]

it's plasma 1.5x will do more than 3 mult and 50 chips

[neon kettle]

I have an unseeded non-legendary ante 39 run that I’ve been working on for months and I’m finally at the end of it. $1000+ reroll and I think maybe a green joker world record lmao

[lost vault]

that was one of the earlier ones ngl

[digital pewter]

my brother who's new to the game just got a natural negative perkeo

crazy

[frank grove]

i mean you will have blue seals so flush five wouldnt be level 1 lol

[lost vault]

you'd use some from the shop

from packs

[frank grove]

thats what i mean

[tepid skiff]

yeah ofc

[patent sail]

riff raff spawned in gay photo, thank you riff raff we all say in unison

[stiff ore]

i just realized gift card will make temperance better too lol

[patent sail]

and i still managed to die with it 🎀🌸💗

[lost vault]

howd you realize this 147 jokers into c++ 💔

[stiff ore]

ehh there are little things i just dont think of until i come acress it

[patent sail]

they only have 147 discovered, not gold stickered i think

[stiff ore]

☝️

[lost vault]

oh

queer

but fair

im missing a few unlocks

[stiff ore]

there

[tepid skiff]

ohhhh kind of misleading

[stiff ore]

there i changed it so no more people will get confused

[patent sail]

blue stake be difficult, been at it for like past 2-3 days 🥀

[zealous zinc]

lets see how easy red deck gold stake is with 3 hands and 5 discards

[worn meteor]

i did c+ without ever picking up illusion or planet tycoon lol

[tepid skiff]

im gonna count mine for like 3 minutes

[deft sandal]

what jokers you missing

[acoustic kettle]

Turns out i don't have planet tycoon discovered

[patent sail]

mid vouchers anyway

[acoustic kettle]

The c++ before c dream is alive

[patent sail]

i think planet tycoon was useful for me only like once

when i got negative satellite + gay astronomer + constellation first ante

[stiff ore]

sweet

[tepid skiff]

106/150 gold stickers

[worthy yarrow]

Oh this is gonna be a good one

[lost vault]

i mean, its doable

[deft sandal]

the most econ in one pic

Mail in rebate, fancy red card, and 4 investment tag

[lost vault]

just dont discover illusion

[tepid skiff]

that's from on mobile and I play more on pc

:3

[worn meteor]

illusion should replace magic trick

it should also actually give you seals but that does without saying

[frank grove]

once illusion is fixed it might be pretty okay

[zealous zinc]

doc spectred suggestion

[patent sail]

90% of gamblers quit before they hit poly steel red seal king in the shop

[lost vault]

still not worth taking magic trick ngl!

[zealous zinc]

im making a mod that implements all of docs suggestion from his newest "rant" video

[tepid skiff]

magic trick should give enhancements and illusion should give editions and seals

[lost vault]

the real reason seals would be good is purple and blue seals

[frank grove]

gold seals are nice

[stiff ore]

yaaay i love accidentally selling the wrong card

[lost vault]

save scum

[lament bronze]

That's assuming Thunk forgets about blue seal lmao

[deft sandal]

with retriggers, yes

[lament bronze]

Has illusion ever worked

Like did think ever add the chance for seals to show up

[tepid skiff]

savescum my beloved ♥️

[lost vault]

imo save scumming is totally justified if its something like selling the wrong thing

[stiff ore]

nope too late

[patent sail]

i think no 😭

[lost vault]

idts

[lament bronze]

Or is it like the text was written and the logic never added

Lmao

[frank grove]

yeah i dont think its ever worked

[stiff ore]

meant to sell mr bones for swashbuckler... accidentalyl sold gift card......

[lament bronze]

"Bugged"

• Thunk didn't even write the code to work that way

Would be hilarious

[patent sail]

i think i had illusion only once when i started playing the game, thought "oh this is cool" and never had it again

[frank grove]

it could've worked in like the demos maybe ?

[zealous zinc]

well one consequence of doc spectreds new balance suggestion: having 4 discards, or in this case 5 is pretty fucking awesome with yorick aint it

[deft sandal]

the word separated differently in my head and it is bad

[tepid skiff]

silly thunk just forgot <.<

[patent sail]

rick: yo

[deft sandal]

Yo, Rick

[frank grove]

i mean this isnt even like a doc spectered change this is just something that is happening, blue stake is just getting changed so we'll have the discard back

[zealous zinc]

no its a doc spec change

[tepid skiff]

roffle refrence!?!??!

[zealous zinc]

you normally wouldnt have 5 discards

[slow iris]

it's an extra discard

[stiff ore]

sweet im glad i didnt lose gros michel for long

[slow iris]

i'm assuming blue stake got changed idk

[zealous zinc]

it will be

[acoustic kettle]

Ye

[deft sandal]

you're the expert

[slow iris]

i mean in the mod

[patent sail]

thank god

suffering with it rn

[acoustic kettle]

Play small hands

[patent sail]

pair slop my beloved

[zealous zinc]

thank you riff raff

[stiff ore]

well this is a fun run so far lol

[zealous zinc]

yes i did already manage to fumble the yorick run

[patent sail]

hell yeah riff raff my beloved

he gave me negative green jonkler 💗

[tepid skiff]

you could get all that money but that would be -1 round for cavendish to go extinct

[stiff ore]

damn thats the main one i wanted lol i could deal with debuffing my burnt

[tepid skiff]

have u unlocked every deck yet

[stiff ore]

not yet

still need to beat orange stake

[patent sail]

stake unlocks 🥀

[stiff ore]

FINALLY

[tepid skiff]

yellow or ghost deck

[patent sail]

highest ive gotten was like purple on my phone

[stiff ore]

highest ive gotten is purple on black

[patent sail]

on black 😭

[tepid skiff]

OUT OF ALL DECKS WHY BLACK

DO U HATE URSELF OR SMTH

[stiff ore]

it was originally for the extra joker, but ill probably try with anaglyph instead since i can get a ton of negative tags

[lost vault]

its better to use the tags for money icl

[stiff ore]

yeah but i cant resist when i see it lol

[tepid skiff]

eventually u will learn black deck is the worst deck for gold stake

[lost vault]

its quite easy

just think to yourself

[stiff ore]

the choice to get like 6 free jokers lol

[lost vault]

negatibe tag bad

[frank grove]

negative tag only gets like really bad at orange, its bad overall, but gets much worse with perishables and rentals

[sullen aspen]

bad but fun

☹️

[lost vault]

i dont understand
what is fun about them

[patent sail]

gambling

[lost vault]

you just get a pile of shit

like

thats not fun

thats disappointing

[sullen aspen]

yes but

MAYBE u get something good

[frank grove]

yeah but there is like no harm in doing it in like ante 7 when you've already won

[tepid skiff]

-1 hand = less scaling on some jokers less money and less scoring on smoll hand builds

[patent sail]

but its MY pile of shit

with a chance of it not actually being shit

gambling is fun 🔥🔥

[lost vault]

if uou go in with the gambling perspective you will almost always be disappointed

[patent sail]

but sometimes you wont

[lost vault]

id still rather just no

bot

not

if i find a good joker ill just replace a mid joker for it

if i have all good jokers then i win

[patent sail]

monkey see negative tag, monkey skip

[lost vault]

i guess eternals could maybe mess this up

but

if im taking eternals to grasp for straws negative tag def aint the play

[tepid skiff]

I take negative tags just bc there's a chance I get a gold sticker

[lost vault]

something crazy about balatro is that "gambling" is actually pretty bad

[patent sail]

gamblingpilled negativemaxxer

[tepid skiff]

only if I know I will win tho

[lost vault]

like

bloodstone is terrible mostly

[paper night]

when we need it the most, it just disappears

[frank grove]

i never take neg tags unless its on anaglyph and ive already won

[lost vault]

negative skip you shouldnt take

wheel is invredible mid

incredibly

lucku cards are good but thats cuz they give money

so basically

only gamble when money is involved

[frank grove]

and you can just retrigger them whihc is just good

[stiff ore]

ah well, the ox kinda screwed me on money lol

[tepid skiff]

nat negative bp and bs next round atleast

[stiff ore]

glad i finally unlocked all my jokers

[lost vault]

look at the score gng

[tepid skiff]

guess theyll never know >.>

[stiff ore]

now i just need to pick tthem up once and ill have them all discovered

[patent sail]

i will take that advice and apply it to real life, thank you

[lost vault]

👍

[tepid skiff]

which ones are u missing

[stiff ore]

the last one is satellite, but i dont remember the other 2

[tepid skiff]

golden ticket and stone joker

[stiff ore]

ahh right

i never know how to use stone cards, so i just never picked up stone joker lol

[paper night]

all u need is one stone card and now he bloats your shop rarely

[stiff ore]

and whenever i find golden ticket, its never worth dropping one of my jokers for it

[tepid skiff]

golden tickets a common and stone jokers an uncommon pretty sure it
70% common
25% uncommon
5% rare

[silk cobalt]

Which Joker should I sack?

[modern panther]

Beat Black white stake planetless

[zealous zinc]

certainly one of the gold stake builds of all time

[modern panther]

What's Holo at?

[silk cobalt]

1.75 atm

[modern panther]

Sack holo

[deft sandal]

nah, stuntman

[lost vault]

???

burnt??

[patent sail]

[lost vault]

its ante 7

they dont need burnt snymore

hologram can grow

[tepid skiff]

feel like this is deadly advice

[lost vault]

it is

holo is rhe worst sell here

[stiff ore]

say, how do rental jokers work? i havent gotten to them yet

[lost vault]

you'll see when you getvthere

[slow iris]

they take away $3 from you per round

[tepid skiff]

they cost 1 dollar and -3 dollars a round

[slow iris]

and they cost $1

[stiff ore]

ohh okay

[silk cobalt]

After a round -$3

[frank grove]

and they sell for a dollar

[modern panther]

That may be true, however...
...
...

[stiff ore]

i figured itd be a tempotaty joker, like after 2 or 3 rounds theyd die

[tepid skiff]

Mhm

[worn meteor]

that's perishible

[lost vault]

can people please just admit when theyre wrong

[stiff ore]

ahh okay

[modern panther]

Perishable. Dies after 5 rounds

[deft sandal]

does diet cola have a higher rate of spawning in plasma deck?
why do I keep getting diet cola in ante 1 shop on plasma deck

[worn meteor]

they become debuffed after 5 rounds

[stiff ore]

the only sticker i have unlocked at the moment is eternal

[modern panther]

I'm not saying I'm right.

[lost vault]

meg

[slow iris]

howeveeeeeer...?

[lost vault]

it was a general complaint

people dont like admitting being wrong

its so annoyong

[modern panther]

However...
...
...

(Crap guide to DnD reference)

[deft sandal]

HOWEVER

[frank grove]

I love burnt joker

[modern panther]

I have literally no argument

Other than I'm impulsive

[stiff ore]

what rarity is satellite?

[frank grove]

i loveee burnt !!

[modern panther]

Uncommon

[frank grove]

uncommon

[stiff ore]

oksy

appreciate it

[deft sandal]

great early game planet level

[zealous zinc]

idk if having more discards but one less hand is actually easier or i fluked the run

[slow iris]

i barely know what dnd is sorry

[zealous zinc]

my straight level is 24

lol

[tepid skiff]

hands over discards almost always

[deft sandal]

what about gay level

[zealous zinc]

true

[stiff ore]

okay this is so much better of a start than i was expecting lol

[tepid skiff]

I feel like its only banner, delayed gratification and the hook is where discards will be better

[modern panther]

Watch "A Crap Guide to DnD" then. It explains... nothing, but we do love hitting things with a big fuck-off axe.

[zealous zinc]

this is a mod where hands give 2 dollars per unused hand and you default to 3 hands and 4 discards instead of 4 hands and 3 discards

so it can indeed be tough early

[stiff ore]

i was just instant restarting just so i could discover those last 3 joker and came across this

[tepid skiff]

also mouth, dna and sixth sence

[zealous zinc]

yes

anything to do with first hand doing something

[silk cobalt]

ggs

[zealous zinc]

thing is i cant tell if this made the game easier or if every other deck other than black is just that much easier than gold stake black

cause i just was testing this mod on gold stake black, it definitely is at least as hard as regular gold stake black

[deft sandal]

I finally got ROI lmao

[frank grove]

yeah 2 hands and 4 discards is tough

[stiff ore]

man smear and burnt are so good together, discard/upgrade a white flush and then benifit with a black flush

[zealous zinc]

its really bad u need to get scoring early

i think im too scared of eternal and rental

[frank grove]

its just golden needle but what about a second hand to dig for something

[zealous zinc]

i think u lwk have to make that trade off often

[stiff ore]

beautiful

[zealous zinc]

esp with this version of black dec

like chances are if u arent one shotting the blinds u are dead anyways

[frank grove]

yeah

[worn meteor]

has splash ever been measurably useful?

[tepid skiff]

ooh I love black board its really good for going pairs

[zealous zinc]

yes

[slow iris]

you have extra room with eternals on black deck

[zealous zinc]

good point

[frank grove]

its good with pairs early on if you dont have chips of levels, it good with flower pot and seeing double, but like way better with seeing double

[zealous zinc]

taking even a crap eternal is worth it if it means u survive the first 2 antes

i never thought about it like that

[stiff ore]

i mean these 3 seem to synergise pretty well lol

[zealous zinc]

u still have 5 joker slots

[zealous zinc]

really?

[frank grove]

yeah, like if you have to take an eternal wrathful to beat ante 1 boss ante 2 round 1 then its probably worth

[zealous zinc]

wouldnt u wanna keep the clubs in hand

[slow iris]

exactly

[zealous zinc]

see i dont think when i play the game tho

thats the issue

my brain turn off

i can make the right decision when im NOT playing

[stiff ore]

this still seems fine to me lol

umm.. alright maybe thisll work lol

[zealous zinc]

ah well

if u fixed ur deck

its great yea

[worn meteor]

negative skip

[stiff ore]

as long as you take a couple suit tarots youll be fine

like 2 or 3 and youre set

well then

WTF lol

[zealous zinc]

neg skip is crazy

but it wasnt the worst joker

but still crazy even then

[modern panther]

Impulsive.

[cyan sparrow]

jokers are good

make sure you buy five jokers to fill your five slots

[modern panther]

Never punished

[silk cobalt]

How's this run looking boys?

[stiff ore]

this has been a fun run lol

[tepid skiff]

are u gonna do red stake next?

[stiff ore]

i mean maybe lol i wasnt even trying to do white stake

[cyan sparrow]

you win!

did jimbo say something to you

he always talks to me in the end

[stiff ore]

oh he did i wasnt paying attention

[worthy yarrow]

Gg.

[tepid skiff]

no jimbo talks to u and u only

[cyan sparrow]

"good job, now, prepare for the coming apocalypse, comrade" -Jimbo, after I win a Balatro round

[weak relic]

Perkeo so based

[tepid skiff]

silly perkeo

[stiff ore]

i was just restarting a bunch so i could finally discover the last 3 jokers and get it done with, and came across free smear joker and splash, then opened a joker pack for a holo burnt lol

i couldnt not play this run lol

[silk cobalt]

Now which one should I sack for Cavendish?

Green Joker, no?

[tepid skiff]

depends if green joker or supernova is higher

[silk cobalt]

Both the same lol

Both +15(high card)

[tepid skiff]

maybe supernova so the eye doesnt kill u

but also u do need to discard for mail in idk

[stiff ore]

SEE!? like this is what i mean, i finally come across golden ticket, but i cant really get rid of anything

[tepid skiff]

I mean do u really need smeared joker

[stiff ore]

the only thing worth getting rid of is the negative lol

[stiff ore]

its actually been helping me a lot with flushes

[lunar zealot]

Yorick is a good joker, one of the best in the entire game; imo that's precisely its main problem
the moment you get yorick, the game is won. that's not very interactive game design as even the strongest of strategies in the game tend to at least have some weakness: constellation being unusable with bad econ, on-scored being vulnerable to card debuffs, etc. even disregarding its strength, which can simply be purported as being a 'legendary', its method of scaling is still too barebones, scaling via discards being essentially getting stronger by playing the game. it only further augments the idea that yorick is an uninteractive joker especially compared to its peer legendaries (canio scaling via face cards destroyed, triboulet being a consistent idol, etc) and its peer xmult jokers (campfire directly converts econ to xmult, lucky cat is fast to scale but needs retriggers/a lot of luck etc etc) which overall does make it strong but in my opinion detracts from balatro's design philosophy
Not helping matters is the psychological effect that yorick even existing has on the soul card - currently, getting soul means you have a 1/5 chance to instantly win the game no matter what, and a 4/5 chance to not instantly win the game, and i think that feels bad, as does most of yorick's other qualities, and is why i feel its design as a joker is simply heavily flawed

Sorry it was just weighing on my mind for weeks i had to say it

[tepid skiff]

o-o

[stiff ore]

holy text wall batman

[granite sandal]

thoughts?

[stable abyss]

thoughts on opti for this seed: https://discordapp.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1155567192771928104/1464910627628908595

[tepid skiff]

guess I gotta read it

[worn meteor]

good points, but eternal burglar

[stable abyss]

for ref:

[lunar zealot]

i mean the fact that yorick is only bad with one specific joker under a specific condition isn't points against it

[worn meteor]

i am joking

[lunar zealot]

Rebate is bad with eternal burglar

[worn meteor]

i might be a joker

[lunar zealot]

i get it but it's not like i'm glazing yorick in the first place

this is more so a game design yap than talking about how good yorick is

[sacred stone]

Ah, sweet Wee Joker. Absolutely crazy with re-triggers

[lunar zealot]

bc like everyone knows yorick is good lmfao

[sacred stone]

16 2s

Yorick is the best joker in the game for sure

[tepid skiff]

Okay I do agree with this are u saying that yorick should maybe have a rework?

[zealous zinc]

this is extra funny because ive been playing with doc spectreds changes using a mod which gives u 4 discards and yorick is absolutely busted

[lunar zealot]

Absolutely

a yorick rework would benefit the game

[frank grove]

yeah it should be more niche-ish

[lunar zealot]

at least that's my opinion

[sacred stone]

It’s definitely too powerful

The other legendaries aren’t nearly as good

[zealous zinc]

chicot is close

[frank grove]

3/5 of the legendries just doing x mult is kinda ehh

[zealous zinc]

econ legendary when?

[lunar zealot]

chicot is oddly enough very well designed

[frank grove]

at least trib you have to find other stuff to make it good

[worn meteor]

perkeo

[frank grove]

but canio and yorick can get to like 10x without much trouble at all in most situations

[worn meteor]

actually all legendaries are econ jokers

[lunar zealot]

The fact it essentially removes worrying about boss blinds entirely opens up so much more freedom in build variety

[worn meteor]

because they give temperance value

[tepid skiff]

it can also make u need to pivot if ur just doing ur average green joker pair run

[frank grove]

yeah chicot is very fun game design

[lunar zealot]

Perkeo is perkeo

canio is interactive xmult at least

and triboulet is

[frank grove]

i just dont pivot if i see trib i sell it or keep it for temp value

[lunar zealot]

key jingling

[zealous zinc]

no hanged man

[lunar zealot]

trib is key jingling

all i'll say

[frank grove]

yeah

its most of the time bait

[lunar zealot]

eh

It's strong

verrrry strong

Weak too

but if you get triboulet you can reasonably play towards it

just play smart

[frank grove]

its strong but its just not as consistent

[lunar zealot]

I think that's points towards it bc at least it's interactive

[frank grove]

yeah

[lunar zealot]

not good points but points

[frank grove]

im not saying its a bad joker, i just dont personally use it like at all

[lunar zealot]

Trib is not a good joker but it is better designed than yorick

[frank grove]

yeahhh

[lost vault]

purr

[lunar zealot]

meow

[stiff ore]

this was a fun as hell run

[frank grove]

was pre scaling yorick better designed than current yorick?

[tepid skiff]

wasn't that kind of like a drivers license I forgot

[lunar zealot]

23 discards for x5 mult

[frank grove]

yeah

[lunar zealot]

even worse design as if you get it a6-8 you cannot activate him

[frank grove]

yeah

[silk cobalt]

Ggs

[frank grove]

i think the whole rewarding discarding is not a bad concept, but a lot of the jokers that do that are just really strong

[tepid skiff]

Rawr

[stiff ore]

.....what the fuck

[tepid skiff]

ew

[worn meteor]

throwback is not all that

[lost vault]

yay, free 3 dolars

[stiff ore]

i like it personally

[lost vault]

skip tags are just too bad

for throwback to be any good

[tepid skiff]

well u also like black deck

[worn meteor]

it scales super slowly for what you give up

[stiff ore]

..ill just shut up then

[tepid skiff]

LMAO

[lost vault]

do not, i am just trying to help

[worn meteor]

like if throwback was like 0.75x then it would be pretty good

skipping is just too terrible

[torpid bridge]

The tags should be reworked

[tepid skiff]

yes were just saying throwback is bad

[frank grove]

i hope steel joker gets a buff

[torpid bridge]

Most tags are not worth it

[tepid skiff]

doesnt really need one

[torpid bridge]

Unless you are on anaglyph deck

[tacit quail]

playing 4 that swash angle rn

[worn meteor]

i don't think tags being weak is a problem

[lost vault]

i think it could absolutely use one

[tacit quail]

i think tags could be stronger

dont make the good ones stronger, jut that the bad ones rn are just reeeally bad

[torpid bridge]

Tags are a part of the problem

[lost vault]

geggs

[worn meteor]

i don't think the game should incentivise skipping in general

[tacit quail]

nothing makes me want to take free reroll start for example

i think it should make the bad skips better but keep peak skip effectiveness as it is rn

[tepid skiff]

ig maybe 1.25x could better

[frank grove]

.2x mult for each steel card is not greatttt

[torpid bridge]

We feel skipping is a big penalty because the tags themselves are not strong

[lost vault]

i think skipping should be something worht considering more often than it is

[runic lodge]

1st ever gold stake win

[tacit quail]

yeh rn its unconsiderable

maybe make the 3 levels skip apply always to most played hand

[worn meteor]

yeah but players should actually be encouraged to play the game instead of skipping rounds

[tacit quail]

or smth

[worn meteor]

having tags be weak is a good thing

[tacit quail]

Or more gambly skips

[frank grove]

i think skipping shouldnt really be encouraged too much more than it already is like you lose so much of the game by skipping

[tacit quail]

Yes but you lose by skipping

Maybe you should be able to win a little by skipping

[torpid bridge]

You shouldnt encourage braindead skipping

But strategic skipping should be a thing

[tepid skiff]

there should be a skip with 1/50 chance to give cavendish

[lost vault]

it is, rarely

[frank grove]

theres a whole deck built around this idea already

[torpid bridge]

I once watch balatro multiplayer skipping challenge and it was hella fun

[tacit quail]

did you know if you have 2 rentals skipping smallblind is better than playing

imo

[lost vault]

there should be a skip woth a 1.5% chance to give a legendary
..
waaait..

[frank grove]

what if the rentals are scaling jokers? is losing a round of scaling better than losing 6 dollars idk

[tacit quail]

arcana skips are low key good if you get lucky

if u cant buy shit yeah

[lost vault]

depends

[torpid bridge]

I mean that does happen

[tacit quail]

like for example ive been in that spot, there are occasional low money situations where the small blind gets you a whole lot of nothing vs previous shop, because of 1$ reward money or w/e when the skip is low % but could still give you some things

[torpid bridge]

But most of the time it only happens in multiplayer

[tepid skiff]

an investment tag or handy tag can be run saving

[tacit quail]

buffoon skip is peak runsave gamblin when you have 0$

[torpid bridge]

Multiplayer enables so many strategies revolving unused jokers and skipping

[tacit quail]

i will say that

ive saved run with that

[deft sandal]

Man, baron is hard to find

[tacit quail]

multiplayer i dont like multiplayer its too white stake

[torpid bridge]

You can play on gold stake if your opponent accepts it

Some do

[tacit quail]

yeh i do better then but like its just giving up on scaling for beat your opponent faster

i don like it

[torpid bridge]

Yeah thats how multiplayer is

[tacit quail]

as an a8 scrape run type player

i lose mp a lotttt

[torpid bridge]

If you play braindead like spamming pairs and trousers and dont try to find a breakthrough u are gone for good

Lmao

But u gamble too hard u are also gone

😂

[tacit quail]

no my 2 eggs

[zealous zinc]

multiplayer is not balatro

[tacit quail]

yeah

[zealous zinc]

its another game wearing a balatro skinsuit

its a damn good game though imo

[frank grove]

is the multiplayer meta still just who can get idol builds faster

[torpid bridge]

It is

[zealous zinc]

its changing but it is in ranked fs

if u hate that

go play smallworld

[tepid skiff]

glass retriggers

[zealous zinc]

we added ranked modes for smallworld recently

[frank grove]

smallworld is a really fun concept

[zealous zinc]

not really

[frank grove]

justice is banned in ranked right?

[torpid bridge]

Glass cant beat idol