🕹・game-discussion

[cloud sinew]

i agree

<@&1133519078540185692>

[smoky merlin]

not even trying huh

[brazen island]

GET HIM OUTTA HERE ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️

[cloud sinew]

GET THAT FOOL OUTTA HERE

[lost vault]

thank you moderator

[light brook]

the reason i (and most other beginners) think obelisk sucks is because we don’t stack a beginning hand high enough to pivot out of

[rigid patio]

Like if you have a ton of pairs played you can just hc pivot

[lapis pumice]

whatd he see 💔

[brazen island]

There should be a joker called cryptocurrency that randomly sets your money to 0

[lost vault]

evil scam

[light brook]

scam image 😞

[visual turtle]

Brokeeee

[rigid patio]

Yeah basically you play too interestingly

[loud rapids]

makes sense

[cloud sinew]

thats because you're playing off-meta

[tepid skiff]

I NEED MORE ROFFLE REACTION PICS

[rigid patio]

You should instead conform to pair supremacy

[lapis pumice]

i meant original pic's context but makes sense

[lost vault]

yes

me too

[light brook]

i’m trying to learn meta

[brazen island]

That, or newer players rely too heavily on high-ranking hands which you don’t play much of anyway/play high cards and pairs to find

[lost vault]

blue seal

[cloud sinew]

meta is pairs

[light brook]

i’m starting to shift to high card

[cloud sinew]

not always, but usually

[lost vault]

get blue seals in every single run ever

[cloud sinew]

NOOO

PAIRS >

[brazen island]

If you’re playing 5 card hands then most of your played hand types are relatively homogenous

[light brook]

always

[rigid patio]

I still dont understand why pairs are better? Just more jokers that work with it?

[brazen island]

Every joker is a pair joker with the exceptions of the tribe, the order, the trio and the family

[lost vault]

consistent and good scaling

and also

tiny

[cloud sinew]

faster scaling, more jokers

[lost vault]

so u can dig hard

more jorkers too

[rigid patio]

Oh yeah true

[lost vault]

lots more jonkers

[cloud sinew]

also its easier to play pairs consistently than high card, unironically

[brazen island]

They’re spammable, grant you value by the way of cards held in hand, and are reliable to find

[cloud sinew]

because you cant easily be forced to play non-pair

[tepid skiff]

do u guys prefer ghost deck or yellow deck for winstreak

[cloud sinew]

while you can easily be forced to play non-high card

[rigid patio]

Duo, bus, sly, wily?

[brazen island]

Yellow deck is stronger but ghost deck is more fun. Go with whatever your heart desires, it’s not gonna change things that much

[cloud sinew]

seeing double

[rigid patio]

Oh yeah ig physic is better

[rigid patio]

Oh yeah

[lost vault]

rrmmm wild card

[cloud sinew]

seeing double can proc on a high card without splash with smeared/a wild but

[tepid skiff]

SQUARE JOKEE THE GOAT

[cloud sinew]

thats rare

[rigid patio]

Square is goated tbf

[lost vault]

square isnt strictly pairs tho

[light brook]

do you guys have any c++ tips? this is just for the future bc i haven’t beaten orange yet lol

[brazen island]

WE love square joker

[lost vault]

he works on a lott a hands

[lost vault]

dw about it yet

[rigid patio]

Yeah square can be hc aswell

[brazen island]

Just keep playing the game. That’s it, that’s the only advice

[lost vault]

square is best ised on pairs

[rigid patio]

Yup

[lost vault]

jolly

[cloud sinew]

if youre going to go for C++ you should play in a way that's most fun for you, not what's most efficient for stickers per run

[rigid patio]

Square is goated with flush fr

[torpid bridge]

Most joker synergize with pair honestly

[cloud sinew]

as burnout is the main issue with C++

[torpid bridge]

🙂

[rigid patio]

Got wrong name didnt i 😔

[lost vault]

no

[cloud sinew]

runner is a pair joker /gen

[lost vault]

you just missed jolly

[tepid skiff]

YESS

[lost vault]

so is the pantaloons

[cloud sinew]

well

[light brook]

how do we feel about wee guys

[cloud sinew]

i like short kings

[brazen island]

Me on my runner/trousers pair build

[lost vault]

hm?

[torpid bridge]

Best chip joker

[rigid patio]

I said wily 😔

[slow epoch]

Maaaaan
Do I greed it for the blueprint? I still need to find a red seal

[cloud sinew]

runner/trousers is actually so peak

[light brook]

well then that’d be a wee baron

[tepid skiff]

(stabs)

[torpid bridge]

Yes

[loud rapids]

Do it.

[lost vault]

that sounds epic

[brazen island]

Genuinely very fun

[torpid bridge]

Happy stabbing penmid

[lost vault]

the best chips joker is SQUARE MY GOAT

[cloud sinew]

trousers definitely is a two pair joker. you can consistently play two pair somewhat easily

[rigid patio]

I love those kinds of jokers

[lost vault]

fair but pairs are better and its better to not scale uranus so you dont win early isnt it

[light brook]

i love shoot the moon bro i get baron is better but idk it’s so fun

[brazen island]

I prefer using it to play weak 2 pairs without winning and winning with a final upgraded pair

[tepid skiff]

YESSS

[torpid bridge]

Yes

[cloud sinew]

we need TDL but it's "you cant play [poker hand] this round" and you get xmult, resets if you play the hand type

[rigid patio]

”minigame” jokers or wtvs

[visual turtle]

Ummmmmmmm

[torpid bridge]

Yorick doesnt do much at late antes

[lost vault]

blobelisk

[visual turtle]

errrrm

[lost vault]

doesnt matter

[cloud sinew]

"late antes"? if you mean endless, then sure

[visual turtle]

what
do i even do

[cloud sinew]

in ante 8, yes it does

[lost vault]

late antes are queer

i should stop ising gay negatively

[torpid bridge]

He is playing ante 17

[lost vault]

hmm

[rigid patio]

Strength the 5 fr

[cloud sinew]

uhhhh

[lost vault]

just hold r gng

[rigid patio]

And king cus why not

[cloud sinew]

what's castle at

[lost vault]

endless aint worth it after ante 12

[visual turtle]

+3

[brazen island]

If you find a Yorick ante 8 you can still get it to a x2 if you have a bonus discard which is still very useful

[cloud sinew]

alright

[rigid patio]

Oh teo discsrds im tweaking

[cloud sinew]

ummmmm

[cloud sinew]

whats trousers at

[visual turtle]

+8

[cloud sinew]

lemme math

[visual turtle]

Ride the bus is at +17

[cloud sinew]

ride the bus will be at +18 for the next hand's scoring

[rigid patio]

Discard faces maybe? Idk

[north spindle]

i would usually not take ante 8 soul except as a hail mary though
(or if you're winning anyway and just want a legendary joker to get stickered)

[cloud sinew]

im doing math rq hold on

[brazen island]

Oh yeah I know, I’m just saying that it’s very rarely irrelevant if you pick it up

[rigid patio]

What suit is castle?

[torpid bridge]

Blinds after ante 8 scales way faster than yorick does

[visual turtle]

Hearts

[torpid bridge]

No point in doing that

[brazen island]

We’re talking about winning ante 8, not endless

[cloud sinew]

erm

[rigid patio]

Cant he just discard all the faces

[cloud sinew]

discard Q+Q+J+J+10

[brazen island]

The game is designed around beating ante 8 not around going deep into endless

[cloud sinew]

i want him to keep the king because he has a strength

[rigid patio]

Fairs

Forgot abt that

[visual turtle]

Ok i made thank you

Evil

[cloud sinew]

obelisk is goated

but

[rigid patio]

No this is peak

[cloud sinew]

thats a lesson for another day

[grand peak]

FUCK

wait wrong picture

[rigid patio]

Yeah dont buy it tho

[tepid skiff]

huh?

[rigid patio]

Thought so lol

[grand peak]

i meant to send this

[rigid patio]

Winnable

[tepid skiff]

do you have any glass

[visual turtle]

👍

[tepid skiff]

its not like bloodstone does anything ways

[rigid patio]

I would defo take here in my own runs tbf

[smoky drift]

i got balatro set up on my 3ds

-# (btw this is that one demake of balatro on the gba that i got set up on my 3ds with an emulator)

[rigid patio]

With a spare trousers there’s just too much ”synergy”

[loud rapids]

Balatro on the 3ds

[brazen island]

Boss idea
The Book
Debuffs all jokers and playing cards until you swear eternal allegiance to the CCP and its glorious leader Xi Xinping

[rigid patio]

Now this is a joker i can get behind

[tepid skiff]

is there a normally only a singular play button when u start a new profile?

[torpid bridge]

I mean most of the jokers that dont score on cards can synergize with any hands

[rigid patio]

Anyways go to #1187936299655647313

[cloud sinew]

theres a DS port, why did you put the GBA version on your DS 😭

[smoky drift]

i dont think so
probably just something with the gba balatro demake

[smoky drift]

wait there is?

[cloud sinew]

lemme link it rq

[smoky drift]

thanks

[cloud sinew]

ill DM it to you actually

[faint linden]

Need to get my modded DSi out

[torpid bridge]

[visual turtle]

so ummmm again

[rigid patio]

Lilo how do you feel about only one week left of gup border 😔

[visual turtle]

Do i like
hope I get

[smoky drift]

i should get my dsi’s left bumper fixed

[cloud sinew]

i dont know what that is

[visual turtle]

another card to make a pair

or

[rigid patio]

????

You have it on???

[smoky drift]

i should probably also get my touch screen fixed for my 3ds

[brazen island]

Lilo how do you feel about my finals

[visual turtle]

oh no

Yeah i miiight lose

[cloud sinew]

i did not process that that was what you meant by border

i just see those as avatar decorations because thats what theyre called

[rigid patio]

Im sorry 😔

[cloud sinew]

not your fault

[rigid patio]

How do you feel about only one week left of gup avatar decoration

[faint linden]

Fine if I DM to ask about something?

[visual turtle]

I los t

[cloud sinew]

aww

[brazen island]

Balatro should have an infinity% equivalent if you get all your files to c++

[visual turtle]

At least I think i got it with ride the bus

[rigid patio]

😔

[rigid patio]

Please no

I want a seeded and modded profile pls and thanks

[brazen island]

Ez, just get them to c++ first and then do what you want w them

[rigid patio]

Ez 😔

[brazen island]

Knock that shit out over a weekend it’ll take like 2 seconds I promise

[rigid patio]

So true

[cloud sinew]

localthunk was talking about that recently i believe

[visual turtle]

Is it a preference thing or

[brazen island]

HELL YEAHHHHHHHHH

[rigid patio]

Pls localthunk no

[brazen island]

Wdym

[rigid patio]

Anything but this

[rigid patio]

Kinda but some are better than others

All are good tho

[visual turtle]

trying to get erratic

[cloud sinew]

blue is consistently rated the best by experienced players

[brazen island]

Except for myself (gigachad) who cycles between ghost, magic, zodiac and painted

[rigid patio]

Except a certain +1 joker slot individual

[glad viper]

hmmm.

[rigid patio]

Dna into madness on reroll

100% chance

[brazen island]

The awful thing about Balatro being a nearly perfectly balanced game is that the couple of things that are unbalanced break everything completely

Like blue seals

[rigid patio]

Yeah true

[glad viper]

why would i do that 💔

[rigid patio]

Perfect madness build fr

[sly bolt]

MADNESS

MADNESS?!?!?

[brazen island]

I’d take it with the family

[sly bolt]

WRAAAAHHHHH

[rigid patio]

In all seriouslness take order and sell ofc

[brazen island]

I was madness once…

[visual turtle]

oh i got the family 💔

[rigid patio]

No

[visual turtle]

From rare tag

[brazen island]

Oh wait nvm I didn’t look close enough I thought the tribe was the family

[visual turtle]

good news is that i got mine & even steven so

Im peaking

[rigid patio]

Even steven is broken fr

[brazen island]

Odd Todd is way more broken

[glad viper]

should i reroll

[rigid patio]

Oops i was thinking of odd todd

No

[brazen island]

Are you gonna die? If yes, reroll. If no, don’t reroll.

[rigid patio]

Listen to him not me

[smoky drift]

pretty decent build for ante 2

[visual turtle]

Omg hiii even steven

[lost vault]

small ass 'latro

[rigid patio]

????

[visual turtle]

ugh hhhh i just realized

If i want to get c++

I'll have to like use

[brazen island]

Joker idea:
Razor’s Edge
This joker gains +6 mult if no hands scored this round set the score on fire

[visual turtle]

the idol or whatever

and every other joker I don't want to use

[balmy ocean]

Yall are gonna call me crazy but I had to sell perkeo because it wasn’t a good synergy for my run

[rigid patio]

Interesting tbf

[cloud sinew]

@smoky drift @faint linden woah theres a fork of that DS port that has even more content, gonna send it to you

[rigid patio]

Pair build tho

[smoky drift]

heck yeah

[brazen island]

Thank u highness 🙏 👑

[rigid patio]

i love making pairs better ❤️

[visual turtle]

Duck tape

[brazen island]

I will die on the hill that we need a full house joker tho

A strong one too

[rigid patio]

Yeah probably

He aint got much atm

[brazen island]

Like “this joker gains X.4 mult if full house is the only scored hand type this round”

[visual turtle]

popcron is gonna like die or whatever

next round

[cloud sinew]

uh

that seems way too niche actually

[rigid patio]

It is v good scaling tho

[brazen island]

Maybe, I just want something that explicitly makes full/flush houses stronger

[visual turtle]

We have paredolea

we can handle

niche

[cloud sinew]

0.4x per round but youre limited to a hard to draw hand type

[smoky drift]

wow

[brazen island]

Pareidolia isn’t THAT niche tho, it has a decent number of uses and being uncommon makes it fairly balanced

[rigid patio]

Oh yeah ig in a way its winmore asw

[modest spade]

Kinda true but tbh I'd rather niche utility than niche scoring

[cloud sinew]

being uncommon isnt really what makes it balanced

[visual turtle]

It's been considered usless every time I use it 😭/see it from someone else

[cloud sinew]

its often actively detrimental

like showman

[dark cairn]

LOL

[lost vault]

the goat

[brazen island]

I’d say it is, I think being uncommon is what makes a lot of the more niche jokers balanced. You don’t see them as much because they’re not useful as often, and when they are VERY useful they’re harder to find

[dark cairn]

Can't wait to die to The Goad on ante 7!

[smoky drift]

is this a peak run so far
im only on ante 3

[rigid patio]

Temperance value 🙏

[brazen island]

Absolutely, but 90% of that comes from the sick DS graphics

[visual turtle]

Can i still use it even on ante 3 shop 2 and the eye is coming up next

[brazen island]

Every run is gonna be a peak run when the game looks like that

[brazen island]

Absolutely

[rigid patio]

I mean you have supernova

[brazen island]

Yeah it’s not gonna be that good but it can still be useful

With scary face I might not take it tho

[rigid patio]

Yeah

Lose your main chips source

[brazen island]

Scary face will provide more value since u already have a source of +mult

[smoky drift]

ok i just got blueprint

[visual turtle]

Oh i sold it

[brazen island]

🔥 let’s go king

[visual turtle]

aaaaand i died

[smoky drift]

where should i put it

[brazen island]

Happens, blue stake is hard

[brazen island]

Copy photo

[smoky drift]

k

[visual turtle]

Purple stake

[faint linden]

Is that native hardware?

[brazen island]

It’s a DS

isn’t it peak

[rigid patio]

Copy pareiodolia

[brazen island]

I’m so jealous of Nate rn genuinely

[brazen island]

🔥 how did I not see it

You’re so right

[visual turtle]

the one use for funny fard face joker and it's in a demake 💔

[smoky drift]

?

[smoky drift]

does that do anything

[faint linden]

Actually running on a DS

[balmy ocean]

I shouldn’t… I really shouldn’t…but it would be funny

[brazen island]

No it doesn’t

[rigid patio]

Now they are all double face cards so you get 2 photo procs frfr

[visual turtle]

ooh raised fist

I have issues with blackboard

[smoky drift]

its running a gba emulator on a 3ds

[rigid patio]

If you play a face card you get three fr

[slow epoch]

Oh praise the lord

[torpid bridge]

Is this thread a ragebait thread

[rigid patio]

Kinda

[torpid bridge]

I just took a peek there and it goes like 🤯

[brazen island]

It’s a thread where everyone makes ride the bus variants

[rigid patio]

Just joke suggestions

[faint linden]

m

I hate Jolly Joker

[rigid patio]

Why?

He’s so jolly

[torpid bridge]

Im happy the game doesnt have that many ride the piss variants

[brazen island]

These are the words of someone who just died because he couldn’t find a pair

[visual turtle]

mmmmm more enternals 🤤

[faint linden]

Server lore reference

[smoky drift]

u gonna send that? or am i just impatient

[visual turtle]

do i take
one

[cloud sinew]

i already sent it

[smoky drift]

do i take it

[cloud sinew]

10 minutes ago actually

[rigid patio]

😔 im just uncultured if

[smoky drift]

where

[rigid patio]

Ig

[brazen island]

Yes

[cloud sinew]

DMs

[brazen island]

Does the DS version have everything the base game does??

[rigid patio]

Yes get rid of smiley and now pareiodolia copy gives even more value

[faint linden]

Someone spammed the letter M and was asked what their least favorite joker was, and replied Jolly, which is why the Cryptid mod has all those M and Jolly references

[rigid patio]

Ohh

Thanks

[cloud sinew]

theres a fork that has a lot of stuff, but not everything

[rigid patio]

:3

[faint linden]

That's the reference

[brazen island]

This needs to be localthunks #1 priority, we can wait a couple more years for the update as long as we get a full version on the DS

[cloud sinew]

i probably shouldnt be talking about porting to other platforms per #📜・modding-rules anyway

[smoky drift]

oh

[brazen island]

I think it’s fine, the rules are more so guidelines for those who would abuse a more open marketplace of ideas

But those of use who wouldn’t are chill

It’s like red lights

I don’t need to stop at those because I’m responsible

[smoky drift]

lol

[rigid patio]

Its like drinking and driving fr

[dark cairn]

do you still get stickers on debuffed jokers?

[visual turtle]

I haven't gotten anything

[cloud sinew]

yes

[brazen island]

Yes

[spark kernel]

Why didnt it unlock

[visual turtle]

and by anything

I mean idk

[dark cairn]

k im taking this perishable ice cream

[visual turtle]

something easy to set up

That I won't lose with in 5 seconds

[smoky drift]

I GOT BRAINSTORM

[brazen island]

Idk try winning a white stake run that usually fixes unlocks

[cloud sinew]

it does that sometimes. the count gets desynced, just gotta buy it more times

[smoky drift]

what do i remove to replace with brainstorm

[brazen island]

Pareidolia

[smoky drift]

DAMN IT IM BROKE

[rigid patio]

NOOOO

[visual turtle]

Continues to be useless 💔

[rigid patio]

Also stop copying sock

[brazen island]

Me every time I open my bank account and there’s $10 million instead of $100 million 💔💔💔

[visual turtle]

ok so um

[smoky drift]

why

[visual turtle]

do i go

2 pair or

pair

[rigid patio]

More photo value from photo copy

[brazen island]

Worse than Chad because of photograph only triggering on the first played card

[dark cairn]

god i love being able to play flushes

thank you ghost deck for getting me 2 polychrome arrowheads

[brazen island]

Sounds like a pair build to me

[dark cairn]

anything's a pair build if you want it to be

[brazen island]

Everything’s a pair build if you want to win

[smoky drift]

wow

[worn valve]

how to win gold stake? and not lose?

[faint linden]

It's the crashers that ruin it for everyone else

[rigid patio]

Damn gorflop is making peak statement after peak statement

[rigid patio]

Thats what im saying

[worn valve]

why is the font??

[rigid patio]

Hes playing a ds port

[smoky drift]

no its a gba port

[rigid patio]

Mb

[smoky drift]

its ok

[molten thicket]

pray or sth idk

[worn valve]

how to??????????????????? win gold stake

[faint linden]

You might be able to stop us from other platforms, but you can't stop us from playing with irl cards and items

I need to buy a tarot deck

[rigid patio]

Pray to our lord and saviour drspectred

[cloud sinew]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdNGt-ihEAcGP1HrUTVnbfT_llazksDV3

[ancient gyro]

welp ok then

[brazen island]

Practice and watch Balatro university

[vast grove]

photochad idk

[faint linden]

How I won Orange Stake

[worn valve]

balatro university be like: boring.

[molten thicket]

bars

[rigid patio]

Dont diss drspectred like that 😔

[worn valve]

i tryed but photo sayed "perish!"

[rigid patio]

Hes my goat fr

[placid jasper]

🐐✅

[dark cairn]

checkered deck

[worn valve]

roffle light my goat

[dark cairn]

also stuntman

but usually yeah

[brazen island]

Okay fine to win gold stake runs get a lot of chips and mult and xmult, you’re welcome

[worn valve]

the joker say "eternal" "rental" and it take away my money

[visual turtle]

I am a bit tired of balalalalalaing 🥱

[brazen island]

That’s good, if you have no money you’ll grind harder

💯

[teal thunder]

got canio really early on but got no ways of ramping it till ante 5, barely survived up till that point but after canio got online and i got an invis copy it was smooooth sailing

[brazen island]

Be a sigma

[visual turtle]

tomorrow perhaps

[worn valve]

but??? when i get no money???? can't buy???

[junior cave]

As Lilo mentioned. I did find out that challenges will not count as I did pass the 10 blank voucher count for Antimatter but found out that it didn't unlock since I had redeemed one in a Challenge run.

[worn valve]

why this can't happen to me?

[visual turtle]

Same

[brazen island]

You need to spend money to make money, you can buy my 10 step Balatro course for only $499.99 and it will teach you how to dropship booster packs for guaranteed financial freedom

[visual turtle]

It's always just

well not always but

[teal thunder]

cuz im just really good at gambling

[visual turtle]

+mult joker

3000 econ

and like x3 mult if I do a very difficult thing

[worn valve]

how to buy it??? from game?? in shop i only see "arcane pack" "standard pack" "voucher"????????????????????????

[visual turtle]

(imo)

[teal thunder]

i only had +10 on green joker lol

[molten thicket]

you all are confusing them even more 😭

[visual turtle]

Me specifically?

I tend to explain things

poorly

[worn valve]

does anyone know?

[molten thicket]

not you specifically

[visual turtle]

oh

[rigid patio]

Just balala university 2x speed

[worn valve]

does anyone know?

[worn valve]

then i can't hear

[molten thicket]

know how to win gold stake?

[visual turtle]

Even though I complain about losing

[rigid patio]

Hes ragebaiting

[worn valve]

yes

[molten thicket]

idk i don't play gold stake lol

[worn valve]

who?

[rigid patio]

Oh nvm i meant gorflop ignore

[molten thicket]

all i do is rock plasma white

[rigid patio]

Not ragebaiting but joking idk

[visual turtle]

I don't really want to watch balatro university/roffle(?)

like idk there's something about
good games and like NOT having to watch a 3000 minute video on
what to do

[balmy ocean]

Holy moly

[worn valve]

balatro complicated game man

[rigid patio]

Then play the game more idk 🤷

I dont have many tips

[visual turtle]

yeah
and i like idk

lose

[rigid patio]

Think abt what ur doing

Is the only help i can think of

[worn valve]

does anyone know?

[brazen island]

This “Ninety” Guy is Ruining Our Server with his ridiculous anti-drspectred SLANDER! The fake “news” media will Have You Believe that Slime-ty is a HERO when he is the Biggest “Chump” to ever join this server!! VOTE GORFLOP!

[visual turtle]

Im doing that
and I feel like it comes to the conclusion of

[rigid patio]

Pairs

[visual turtle]

If i don't get the 5 specific jokers that let me win, then I'm not winning

[balmy ocean]

That’s reasonable enough statement

[worn valve]

the hand?

[visual turtle]

or something idk

[worn valve]

you sound like: DONALD TRUMP

[rigid patio]

A real compliment that

[rigid patio]

Yeah they are most consistently good

[bronze linden]

i think its more just about learning how to utilise other strong jokers - and that can only really come from practice

[visual turtle]

and then other methods is like

[rigid patio]

Post like act 1

[bronze linden]

there are plenty more jokers which can facilitate wins

[visual turtle]

"You should hope that you get these specific consumable cards or else nothing will work"

[smoky drift]

im beating ante 8

[rigid patio]

That is kinda how it feels at first tbf

[rigid patio]

Congratulations

[smoky drift]

oh
it just ends

[visual turtle]

And it's not like I haven't won a game

[visual turtle]

But then it kinda feels like this again or something

[rigid patio]

Wait why am i talking in here? Thunk is in other text channel

[smoky drift]

ill go get the balala ds version setup

[cloud sinew]

Balatro DS

there you go

[worn valve]

does anyone know?

[visual turtle]

idk maybe I'm playing it too safe???

[quaint stag]

lowkey an insane run where i got level 70 flush off burnt joker as well as dna and triboluet and 2 brainstorms and a blueprint

[visual turtle]

I mean I do refuse to take

jokers

even though using all of them IS the goal

to get c++

[bronze linden]

i promise i understand this but again it just comes from practice ! ive found on trying to get C+ you are forced to utilise slightly ridiculous jokers in situations but when you find out how to use them it works out

[vale mist]

watching others play is a great form of education tho

not even guides, just regular runs can teach a lot

[bronze linden]

i think that would make sense - taking risks with jokers may result in losing a run but will always result in you understanding them more and potentially knowing how to use them more effectively in the future

[naive cove]

Why play safe when you can play FUN

[worn valve]

how do i?

[vale mist]

there's so many instances of "why might they have made this decision?" or "what makes option a better than option b?"

[worn valve]

is there a strategy? that i can do?

[teal thunder]

mmmm im so close i can taste it

[shy stirrup]

Hoping for that Baron in endless

[dark cairn]

highest mult ive ever gotten on a scaling +mult joker in 8 antes

i am now a flash card believer

[naive cove]

Balatro easy. Play pair builds to win every stake.

[cloud sinew]

yes and no

[worn valve]

i'm a lsoer

[visual turtle]

I'm trying to make sure

I prepare for everything

[dark cairn]

i now have golden ice cream

[visual turtle]

But I can't at the same time

[dark cairn]

and with that, that means i now have all the food jokers gold stickered

[vale mist]

I can't quite answer that question because what counts as a "good strategy" varies from case to case

[naive cove]

pair build always good strategy

[worn valve]

for gold stake

[naive cove]

I beat all decks gold stake with pair build

[naive cove]

look up how to play pair build on youtube

very easy

[zealous zinc]

doc is the light of my life how dare he

[dark cairn]

i beat most gold stake runs with pairs

theyre the most consistent

[balmy ocean]

I guess I’ve never seen it before but can you naturally get a legendary card from the shop or does it have to be from a soul card?

[naive cove]

only soul

or invisible joker

[balmy ocean]

Ah

[cloud sinew]

has to be from a soul card

[worn valve]

you can get it from shop its just very rare

[visual turtle]

But what if you can't get any pair cards or an observatory?

[naive cove]

or ahnk

[zealous zinc]

if they actually implement doc suggestion of changing hands and discards i lwk think that would make other hands so much more viable

along with blue stake change

[worn valve]

what would an observatory do

[cloud sinew]

no you can't, not from the shop slots (that you reroll)

[dark cairn]

for checkered deck i did flushes (duh)
for red deck i did straights (i don't remember what pivoted me toward straights but it worked cause i absolutely obliterated that run)
for plasma deck i did two pair at first into high card (stuntman)

[naive cove]

trust me when I say that the majority of jokers work with pairs to varying degrees of effectiveness

[mortal summit]

How do you fail to get a pair 😭

[worn valve]

i saw it on tiktok

[cloud sinew]

you were lied to

[dark cairn]

they used 3 ectoplasms

[wintry ice]

i'm thinming that was deck of equilibrium footage

which is cryptid mod

aka not vanilla

[naive cove]

you want telescope, observatory is a waste of money

[worn valve]

ok 🙁

[vale mist]

I wouldn't advertise that as the end all be all because searching for a pair build (or starting a game with any set strategy in mind, for that matter), isn't the best way to get a good grasp of the game imo

[visual turtle]

Idk what if the seed doesn't like you and doesn't give you a Mercury planet card

[dark cairn]

nope they only come from soul card

[visual turtle]

Oh yeah telescope

[visual turtle]

or telescope

[dark cairn]

only way you can see a leg joker in the shop is with mods (cough deck of equilibrium)

[naive cove]

If all they want to do is win, it'll do the trick. from there they learn by experience

[mortal summit]

That applies to literally every hand, not really a downside of pairs

[worn valve]

VICTORY

[zealous zinc]

pairs are the most consistent

[worn valve]

defeat

[dark cairn]

pairs are good because they're spammable not because they're necessarily "strong"
they synergize the best with the overall best and most consistent jokers in the game

[naive cove]

can't do anything about bad shops, just restart

[zealous zinc]

it doesnt mean that you will win every run with pairs

[visual turtle]

So what do you do if that happens

[cosmic sun]

A run will have some form of planets or chips

[dark cairn]

such as square joker, green joker, supernova, ride the bus, etc

[zealous zinc]

though, i am of the opinion that you can absolutely force pairs on every run

[cloud sinew]

not all seeds are pair seeds

[zealous zinc]

its just harder on some seeds

[naive cove]

you can "force" a pair build even with suboptimal jokers

[zealous zinc]

which i think is also a problem

[worn valve]

not if i take 5 eternal rental smeared jokers immediately

[dark cairn]

usually when you play pairs most of your score comes from your jokers, not your hands

unless you get like 5 blue seals

[mortal summit]

Hope you can’t rely on jokers for scoring

[cosmic sun]

If no chip source at all then you cope with larger hands early

[vale mist]

fair, so it depends on what tg_03's goal is

[dark cairn]

oh wait i still need to get gold sticker on cola

[worn valve]

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[dark cairn]

well i have every food joker except cola gold stickered then

[zealous zinc]

anyways im bringing doc spectred "joker poker balancing issue" discourse here for a second since we are talking pairs: doc suggested making hands and discards a 3/4 split instead of a 4/3 split and making hands give 2 dollars per unused hand

[dark cairn]

oh and seltzer

i cant remember shit

[worn valve]

noi

[zealous zinc]

to try and combat the pair lobotomy

[naive cove]

@visual turtle this is my most used jokers and pair is my most played hand and I beat all stakes with all decks playing pair.

[dark cairn]

black deck becomes complete and utter cancer

[visual turtle]

Im trying to unlock all the decks
and the last one I need is erratic

[zealous zinc]

im not so sure

[visual turtle]

so that's the goal I guess for now

[zealous zinc]

i actually

[mortal summit]

Supernova?????????????????????????

[zealous zinc]

made a mod

[dark cairn]

2 hands per round bruh

[zealous zinc]

that implements it

[mortal summit]

Horrifying and vile

[zealous zinc]

and its not as bad as you think

[naive cove]

yeah it's amazing

[zealous zinc]

its definitely harder though

but like not by much imo

[mortal summit]

As number one is evil and terrible

[dark cairn]

black deck is already the hardest it does not need it

[zealous zinc]

econ is the same, you just need scoring more

[zealous zinc]

ok but you missed the point of the change

[dark cairn]

i'd be down for it but you'd need to change black deck's downside imo

[zealous zinc]

its to make pairs less overbearing

[zealous zinc]

i disagree

its marginally harder

it might actually be easier

[dark cairn]

youre still making the hardest deck harder

[zealous zinc]

i just suck at black deck gold stake in general

you cant say its harder without playing it yourself

imo

[naive cove]

I tend to pick it up early and carry it the whole game so that's why it's got the most rounds completed with it.

[zealous zinc]

thats why i made a whole ass mod to like test it

[dark cairn]

uh yeah i think i can

[zealous zinc]

no i think you cant

[vale mist]

ah then consider playing on an easier deck like blue, yellow or ghost

[tranquil steppe]

What’s wrong with supernova?

[zealous zinc]

playing it in practice is different from speculating

[dark cairn]

most of my black deck wins were with burglar

[visual turtle]

That's what I've been doing the past
idk hours (yellow deck)

[vale mist]

darn

[zealous zinc]

thats definitely not a universal experience

i can tell you that

[tranquil steppe]

Finally gold stickered popcorn. That bastard didn’t die this time before the ante 8 boss

[dark cairn]

i do not want to be trading 1 hand for 1 discard on the deck that already has fewer hands

[zealous zinc]

2 hands and 4 discards

thats actually a lot better than you think

[dark cairn]

blue stake

[zealous zinc]

blue stake ius being changed

[dark cairn]

2 hands 3 discards

[naive cove]

I was so mad when my Mr. Bones died to save me on ante 8 to win the run and he didn't get gold stickered

[zealous zinc]

so you have 4 discards

[tranquil steppe]

Dang that’s rough. I do love me some mistaaaaaaaa bones though

[mortal summit]

I’m a hater

[dark cairn]

ok well once blue stake rework is implemented the pair problem will be less of an issue overall

[zealous zinc]

agreed, i dont think its enough though personally to kill pair lobotomy but i def agree and think its fair if thats all that is changed as well, that would already be a big help to other hands so if we only get that im still very happy

and we are basically confirmed getting blue stake rework so

if they just do that im happy fs

[vale mist]

in that case it comes down to knowing the game and studying general skills like econ, optimizing scoring jokers, deckfixing, hand building, etc

[dark cairn]

i'd like to see more jokers that encourage playing 5 card hands

or just more different hand types in general

[visual turtle]

I can't/I don't want to say the problem is that "I'm not getting good jokers"

but for me it does feel like when I do make a plan that's specific (like needing specific cards/jokers), It almost never seems to work
And when I try to aim to be more "general", I can't seem to score enough

[dark cairn]

what if there was an evil green joker that gained 2 mult per discard used but lost -1 mult per hand played

[zealous zinc]

i think its just a matter of getting more runs under your belt

[dark cairn]

watch balatro university on youtube

[zealous zinc]

btw i dont mind sending out this mod to others or making a release on github because lwk i think having 3 hands and 4 discards is really fun

even on black deck gold stake i think its fun, and im not so sure its harder

[visual turtle]

Oh yeah no thanks to 2 hour videos

0_0u

[zealous zinc]

it doesnt seem that much harder to me personally and i only say its marginally harder after playing it just because it plays so similar but i can say like 1 or 2 things that might technically make the original black deck easier (like the fact that 1 shotting the blinds in the new black deck gives the same amount of hand money, but if u two shot it you get 0 dollars of hand money vs 1 dollar in old black deck)

and it would definitely not make the other decks harder i would wager though i havent done many runs on em yet

[hard mantle]

joker idea: russian roulette
x6 mult, 1/6 chance to debuff (not destroy) a random joker every round

-# this is not a serious idea lol

[cyan sparrow]

this should be a joker card

[naive cove]

pls no

[vale mist]

ok but videos like that are what might help you understand the decisions that really good players make

[dark cairn]

Then how exactly do you plan to learn to get better at the game aside from bashing your head against a brick wall for dozens of hours?

It's worth the time

[zealous zinc]

yall if they dont wanna watch a 2 hour video dont force em 😭

[loud rapids]

Why so serious

[dark cairn]

The reason the videos are so long is because he explains his thought processes

[ancient gyro]

yorky style

[zealous zinc]

i agree its very useful but like it is 2 hours

[cyan sparrow]

yes exactly!

[zealous zinc]

thats a long time

[dark cairn]

And having his thought processes written down allows you to understand how a high level player thinks

which thus allows you to start applying what you learn into your own runs

instead of just thinking to yourself "Why did he just sell that joker out of nowhere"

or "why did he destroy that face card"

or whatever else

[visual turtle]

I feel like that's
answerable

[vale mist]

I guess the question is whether it's 2 hours better spent than 2 hours trying to improve on his own

[zealous zinc]

good counter

[atomic trout]

I lost track on the Jokers

[zealous zinc]

i think if you are struggling and not finding it fun because you dont know what to do

[cyan sparrow]

dude you have a lot of jokers

[zealous zinc]

put in the 2 hours to watch a BU video

100%

[atomic trout]

Nah

Temperance value

[zealous zinc]

if you are still having fun playing and dont wanna commit 2 hours on watching a run and not having fun during the watch i think thats also fair

[vocal rose]

100% just playing the game

experience contributes so much

[visual turtle]

is 108 hours good e
nough

[ancient gyro]

it sort of boils down to how you spend your hours

[vale mist]

yeah I like this point of as long as you're having fun

[vocal rose]

no way to answer this

people learn at different rates

and it all depends on how effective those hours were spent

[atomic trout]

Nooo

[north spindle]

you could always post a specific decision point here and see how people dissect it

[atomic trout]

Aaaugh

And no red seal either

[vagrant pike]

woah ur good

dude I was cooking in this one balatro run

but I forgot to add an extra 8

I was off by 3000 chips

[atomic trout]

Not really haha

It's

[atomic trout]

It happens to all of us

[blissful fog]

Still good for a white stake run

[serene forge]

smartest negative tag user

[silent oxide]

This run has potential

[visual turtle]

Negative pluto 😌

[serene forge]

holy moly

[fervent wolf]

Okay Bloodstone user

Bloodstone users react above 🔝

[silent oxide]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

This is unseeded

2nd invis joker

[blissful fog]

Now you need jokers for score

[ancient gyro]

i was told rick was a pair slop joker I don't get it

[silent oxide]

Unlucky

[silent oxide]

10 plutos 2 eggs and a swashbuckler

Take it or leave it

[vagrant pike]

woah how'd yall get so good at balatro?

[blissful fog]

Eh you don't have observatory yet

[silent oxide]

I am the luckiest man alive

That's how I have 2 perkeos

[vagrant pike]

makes sense

[blissful fog]

Playing so many games

And learning from them

[vagrant pike]

fair

[blissful fog]

And also learning through yt and shit

[silent oxide]

I'm not even that good I only have gold stake on three decks

[vagrant pike]

I've only beaten one deck so far lol

[blissful fog]

More room to grow

[visual turtle]

I watched some of the short balatro university videos

Im still filled with

doubt

[blissful fog]

Heck I'm not rlly that good tbh compared to the ytbers I watch lol

[vagrant pike]

oh alr thanks ill check it out

[urban heath]

I finally beat blue stake

:)

[serene forge]

i hate you for taking four fingies

[blissful fog]

This is my latest win, haven't played in days lol

[blissful fog]

Ggs

[urban heath]

Now I can end this game sesh

[silent oxide]

Money time

[vagrant pike]

sic

[high barn]

w00t

[ancient gyro]

well this was what I took it for earlier (225 runner)

[vagrant pike]

wait

[serene forge]

o

[vagrant pike]

if blueprint is to the right of perko what would happen

[vagrant pike]

that would be funny lol

[deft sandal]

what a shop

[vagrant pike]

interesting

[deft sandal]

naneinf incoming

holy shit

the next reroll

[ancient gyro]

threw it away for a cheap imitation and was practically forced to play straights

[deft sandal]

WTFFFF

[ancient gyro]

ideally the seed was winnable with more unconditional setup if you didn't bother with stickers

[serene forge]

not with that econ you aren't

[vagrant pike]

dude I just lost the run to the mouth and it was so weird

[deft sandal]

I just got my econ source

[vagrant pike]

Basically I played a 3 of kind making me able to only play 3 of kinds

[serene forge]

what's the deck

[deft sandal]

I have red sealed gold cards

[serene forge]

good

[vagrant pike]

me?

[deft sandal]

i just need 2 strength to make one king

[serene forge]

no sniper

[vagrant pike]

I think it was blue deck

[vagrant pike]

oh

[silent oxide]

I lost

[vagrant pike]

on a boss thingy?

[silent oxide]

I easily could have won but I have a rock in my head

[visual turtle]

stone cards

[placid ridge]

So... both of these were the rare tag hits. Then I took a break, so I closed Balatro and everything, and when I resumed, they are still there. No longer free, but... still nice.

And the reroll shows two new free rares, invis and burnt joker

[silent oxide]

Easily much better then the first 2

[placid ridge]

The only rare I took was The Tribe. I won though.

[wintry lynx]

I FUCKING LOVE PALENT CARDS

[placid ridge]

This is directly before Violet Vessel

[wintry lynx]

wtf is my nickname

[placid ridge]

seems normal

[rigid glen]

whats so good about square joker?

[silent oxide]

W

[wintry lynx]

dont remember making it that

[rigid glen]

so its good for 4 of a kind builds

[placid ridge]

a mod did, because they didn't like the slur in your name

[silent oxide]

Square joker is so good every time you take it the boss blinds just give up and it flashes the win screen

[unborn cliff]

no

[wintry lynx]

OH YEHA

[rigid glen]

whats it used for then

[unborn cliff]

squimbo is hot steaming garbage is 4oak builds

its good in pair builds

[rigid glen]

thats right

[placid ridge]

So I'd recommend changing your nickname to something they won't mind

[rigid glen]

I love the bull and egg combo

[placid ridge]

there we go

[vocal rose]

wha

is the synergy that egg gives econ?

[silent oxide]

Do you mean swashbuckler and egg

[kind creek]

chat do I go for it

[silent oxide]

Yes yes yes yes

[rigid glen]

yeah and even better when paired with swash

[silent oxide]

This build would have gotten you executed in the 1800s

[placid ridge]

invis? sure

[kind creek]

idk if my flat mult is good enough without swashbuckler holo

[vocal rose]

yikes

[unborn cliff]

what about jokers that are good on their own

[silent oxide]

Like chicot

[unborn cliff]

unbiased opinion

let this man on a jury

[rigid glen]

jokers can only go so far by them selves

I like fortune teller

[unborn cliff]

jokers that don't rely on another joker to make themselves strong

like square joker

[kind creek]

guys

[unborn cliff]

he doesnt need a 2nd joker to be useful to my roster

[wintry lynx]

btw sorry a mod didnt change that i did im drunk and forgot

[rigid glen]

vagabond also goes good by itself but every joker has a combo that makes it more powerful

[kind creek]

Obvious brianstorm over invisible, but what about hallucination?

[placid ridge]

choose your fighter

[kind creek]

brainstormed hallucination with free planet packs are kinda good

[slow epoch]

A brainstorm is just a brainstorm, but an invisible joker could be anything, even a brainstorm!

[kind creek]

needs more context
What ante?

[unborn cliff]

goldenoker

[placid ridge]

Ante 1, first shop.

[kind creek]

oh, then gold for sure

[placid ridge]

yep

sad time for bloodstone

[unborn cliff]

ahhhh yes shgop 1 rental

smartest play imaginable

[kind creek]

I love bloodstone even without oops

but rentals

eugh, rentals

[unborn cliff]

rentals are worse than vegetables and homework

[visual turtle]

oh yeah, uh,
Thank you all for helping me
^~~~^

[silent oxide]

Yuta and megumi of jokers

[spring pendant]

Nice unseeded

[silent oxide]

They're both bums

[kind creek]

what should I sell for brainstorm, and should I get hallucination?

[silent oxide]

Sell a constalation for storm i think

That's what I would do personally

Or astronomer

Probably astronamer

[unborn cliff]

sell invis

[kind creek]

I GOTTA copy that hallucination with brainstorm

Satellite

I put my faith in you

11$ a round please do me right

[unborn cliff]

oh wait you have econ

sell astronomer

[high barn]

type of luck you get when you say last run of the night

[gusty vessel]

do i sell baron or mime for showman

i was thinking baron for the money

[unborn cliff]

mime

[gusty vessel]

ante 19 btw

[unborn cliff]

whats your score look like

[high barn]

we get our revenge

[unborn cliff]

poetic

[rigid glen]

are royal flush builds good

[high barn]

type of run you get after the one you called the last one

[vocal rose]

no

[unborn cliff]

no

[vocal rose]

you skipped

this isnt the game

[high barn]

😉

pushed my luck too hard trying to play 5 Q's against the hook

XD

[split plaza]

Alrighty lads, I've never gotten this far before... do I sell smiley for Blueprint? And if so, where do I place Blueprint?

[vocal rose]

yes you replace smiley

[unborn cliff]

yes

copy trib

[split plaza]

Trib and not sock?

[unborn cliff]

yeah

[split plaza]

I assumed sock would give more procs, no?

[vocal rose]

no

how would you get another proc of trib if you're copying sock

[split plaza]

🫡

[vocal rose]

a retrigger joker

[unborn cliff]

you CAN copy sock for greed however

but you have not that many lucky cards

[indigo cypress]

Hello. Triple Misprint anyone?

[split plaza]

Well, if trib gives 2x per king/queen, and then each king/queen would trigger 2x from bp+sock, wouldn't that be the same as trib triggering twice from BP?

Forgive me if I'm wrong, I'm not the best at math's

[unborn cliff]

i dont know why tbh i dont think that much but you want to even out scoring and retriggers

so if you have sock trib bp bs

you want 1 copy on trib and 1 copy on sock

if you have uneven copies then make the majority go on scoring

[split plaza]

Yeah I dont have a negative brainstorm 😢 I wish XD

[vocal rose]

would copying sock and buskin give an extra retrigger or an extra proc of trib

[unborn cliff]

brainstorm is 2 shops

in

[split plaza]

Wat how do u know bs in 2 shops?

[vocal rose]

or is it hard to discern either

[vocal rose]

they dont

[split plaza]

I have no idea

[tall sage]

Finally beat the Cruelty challenge, my last one standing. Early Spare Trousers and Telescope gave me direction, Mail In Rebate carried my econ early, and I dropped it for Troubadour later to get value from my blue and purple seals.

Never found a good mult joker, and Violet Vessel was going to kill me, but a final shop Mr. Bones got me across the finish line.

[unborn cliff]

im like bill cipher

i see the future

[vocal rose]

so if you have blueprint copying trib, trib will proc TWO times every trigger/retrigger (sock and buskin)

if you copy sock, trib will proc ONCE every trigger/retrigger

[dawn sedge]

Sub-Optimal. Selling Mr. Bones here for the interest is the best play.

I know @versed path agrees wit ts statement

[rugged warren]

whats the cleanest way to set up two balatro folders/exes so i can keep one for exclusively modding purposes?

[split plaza]

Ahhh, yeah that makes sense! Thank you!!

[weak relic]

Trib, the only legend left to gold for me ig

[silent oxide]

I'm so fried right now

I just hit 2 wheels

And i was like

Wow how am I getting so lucky

[weak relic]

I wonder why

[silent oxide]

Like I said I'm FRIED

[unborn cliff]

thanks showman

[rigid glen]

thats good

[unborn cliff]

smace carry

[silent oxide]

I just had a second baron show up in shop

[unborn cliff]

skipppppp

skipppp

skipppppp

[silent oxide]

Satan tempts me

I must stick to my 5oak supremacy

[unborn cliff]

x16 mult

2 x 2 is 4

then 4 x 2 is 8

then 8 x 2 is 16

[blissful fog]

One of the best scaling chips especially if you're playing pair/twopair/highcard, and more good if you get it early

[frank kiln]

ye love Square Joker

[unborn cliff]

these might actually be

the WORST lucky cards

[split plaza]

Thank you for the advice everyone! 3 high scores achieved for me tonight with this run, that was awesome! 🙌

[unborn cliff]

ever made

[deft sandal]

look inside

[unborn cliff]

i have 20 TRIGGERS TOTAL

[frank kiln]

inside you there are two wolves

[unborn cliff]

AND I HAVE GONE

4 ROUNDS

WITHOUT 1 MONEY HIT

[rigid glen]

what should I add to this

[silent oxide]

UUUUGH FUCK

I don't wanna have a good run

I wanna go to bed but big balatro keeps on feeding me goodslop jokers

[deft sandal]

Chad

[rigid glen]

I just got brainstrom putting it on photo

or should I put it on smile

[split plaza]

Photooo

[deft sandal]

btw move your smilely face infront of the photo

[rigid glen]

why

[deft sandal]

to get the +Mult first then xMult

but if you using brainstorm

[noble dagger]

i had $100+, a bunch of polychrome jokers, and was on ante 7/8. i just earned a free polychrome and was trying to figure out which joker to replace it with. Accidentally sold a joker (https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1464847581598191779), then impulsively tried to quickly reinstall the game to undo it. Now I'm back to a game I don't even remember playing (https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1464848916808859833).

I realize now that I should have quit the game and disabled wifi to see if I could restore locally before going nuclear. In the "oh fuck" panic, that clearly didn't occur to me

Sucks too. I think that was my first time on a winning run of a higher stakes game.

[deft sandal]

then Photo in first slot

[noble dagger]

i'm sure similarly infuriating things have happened to everyone here. i just needed to yell into the void because fuck

[deft sandal]

a thing of beauty

purple sealed into death and fool

[silent oxide]

WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING

Every time I get a half decent run it's 12 am and I'm like zonked

[eager prawn]

This is a joke

[silent oxide]

Profit

[rigid glen]

how should I arrange these