🕹・game-discussion

[iron kraken]

I'm entering 30...

[lost vault]

6 steel it wont quite be 25x

more like 11x

still good

[iron kraken]

I've already been spending ~1k/round to reroll for burglar and the boss. But it hasn't worked out yet

[naive heath]

can anyone answer me 😭😭😭😭

[lost vault]

no

[sinful estuary]

yeah I am think you're probably right on getting ride of erosion? 1.5x mult is nothing right now. The +80 will hurt, esp since the steel will proc that much more though

[manic zealot]

why do you need stencil

[naive heath]

so i get more xmult

[sinful estuary]

I just don't know for sure how impactful the doubling of the chips really is

[lost vault]

yeah

[lost vault]

it is as impactful as doubling mult gng

[manic zealot]

you're better off looking for a more reliable xmult option

[lost vault]

commutative property gang

[sinful estuary]

so it's basically acting like an x2 still but an x2 that is calculated at the end of the hand since that's when it's multipled

[naive heath]

im waiting for my cavendish since banana already got destroyed

[manic zealot]

just keep looking I guess

[sinful estuary]

oh it's even more than 11x though cause the mime can be brainstormed

[lost vault]

yeah

:3

[naive heath]

but clever joker and acrobat aint really do nun

[sinful estuary]

lmfao yeah the erosion was the play and swapping the mime for photo slot

went from 60m to 4bil

[naive heath]

should i sell hanging chad or acrobat

[manic zealot]

what are you using chad for? lucky cards?

[naive heath]

idk

[manic zealot]

if you don't know, then sell it

[glad viper]

chad is chad

[tame basin]

Just had an oops, 2 blueprint and bloodstone run die to the head on ante 6. 💔

It was going so well

[ivory portal]

Hi

What do I blueprint

Ignore all the negatives they're useless

[manic zealot]

well what are you using? high card? 4oak?

[iron kraken]

Where the fuck is the burglar

[ivory portal]

High card

[manic zealot]

with steel?

[ivory portal]

That's what I'm playing

Or do I play the king

?

[manic zealot]

probably copy mime

[ivory portal]

Alright I'll try

I play the king right

Not the queen

[manic zealot]

copy dna to get more red seal steel, then for the next hand copy mime

[ivory portal]

Mhm

I'm doing that

[manic zealot]

I would play the gold seal 10 first for money

[ivory portal]

Copy mime

Only gave me that much

@manic zealot

🥲🥲

Maybe something else idk

Idk why it's giving so little

[manic zealot]

play one of your red seals now, still copy mime

trust

[ivory portal]

Okay better

But gg

[manic zealot]

yeah the scaling for the blind is too much for your build at this point

[ivory portal]

Do I copy Chad instead

[iron kraken]

One shop left to get the burglar for Naneinf. Fingers crossed. I should have ~1800 money for both sets of rerolls (burglar shop reroll and serpent boss reroll)

[ivory portal]

Mannnn

[manic zealot]

it's better to copy photo but it's gg for your run

[iron kraken]

not me w the photo

[faint linden]

Starting my first Gold Stake run

Any advice?

[iron kraken]

win

[ivory portal]

Yeah

[manic zealot]

keep doing what you've been doing probably, it isn't that much harder than orange stake tbh

[iron kraken]

Last Shop fore naninf (shop before Ante 31) means I auto sell DNA and also roll Judgement cards, right?

[dense willow]

Do you guys think that perkeo would let me hit?

[faint linden]

Flush spam while getting lucky with Jokers. Got it. Purple was with Canio and Orange was Hanging Chad, Scary Face, Foil Photograph, Foil Castle, and Gros Michel

[manic zealot]

I would recommend doing more stuff with pairs and high card if the runs allow it

it's much more consistent and scale better than flush

[faint linden]

Orange was bouncing back and forth between normal flush and Flush House. I'm on Checkered

[dense willow]

why

[manic zealot]

because you'll almost never wiff on drawing a pair, and you never will ever on getting to play high card

they're safe and consistent

[wary willow]

do I swap out scary face for photo here?

[dense willow]

thats why i aways play checkered

[manic zealot]

I don't like playing checkered because of how it shuts off certain jokers, especially ancient joker, which I love

[faint linden]

That's the one I'm trying to Gold Stake

[manic zealot]

it is a good deck don't get me wrong

it's a personal preference thing for me

my current build

[iron kraken]

Last try at getting the Burglar. Fingers crossed

[azure wasp]

Checkered is boring as hell imo, I can't stand flushes anymore

[wary willow]

Holy econ

[iron kraken]

Can yall cross your fingers too lol

[wary willow]

🫰

[naive heath]

thats an heart

[dense willow]

i love flushes

[manic zealot]

I only ever build flushes nowadays on the rare chance I have oops + bloodstone, or if I get an early ancient joker

[dense willow]

My highest score was using oops + bloodstone

[unreal topaz]

what vouchers do you have?

[azure wasp]

Flush was my ante1 go-to for a long time before I got better at the game, so my stats still have flush as my most played hand for all those runs where I lost by ante 2

[unreal topaz]

if you have tarot tycoon that explains it, just tarot merchant is usually fine

[manic zealot]

it's a very good combo but I'm grown to kind of dislike bloodstone over my time playing, unless I have an oops then it's amazing

[iron kraken]

tarot merchant is the only one affcting it. No tycoon

tarot merchant was early and prob needed to survive the run

[unreal topaz]

yeah its just a bit unlucky, tarot merchant was prob a safe pickup to get guaranteed deckfixing

[azure wasp]

Bloodstone is satan

[unreal topaz]

i hate bloodstone

[dense willow]

why

[iron kraken]

i've alreaady sold dna to roll any judgement i see 😢

and reroll clown

[unreal topaz]

bc of the random aspect and the relatively low payoff

i have to be able to play like 3 heart flushes per round to think about offsetting the randomness

[dense willow]

its 1 in 2

[unreal topaz]

yeah

exactly

[azure wasp]

I really hope thunk buffs 5 card hands in the update, I keep ending up playing pairs or high card

[dense willow]

not like 1/20

[unreal topaz]

1 in 2 is bad if you're relying on it every round

bc you have so many chances to lowroll

and its not econ

so if you miss you die instead of missing value

[atomic trout]

Whaaaaat

[ancient gyro]

better to have something you dont need (parking: econ) than need something you don't have (bloodstuh: scoring)

[manic zealot]

facts

[pale wolf]

beep

[iron kraken]

@unreal topaz its not going well

[manic zealot]

it's why the 1 in 4 doesn't bug me a lot for space joker, it isn't meant to be your entire scoring, it's meant to supplement a build you should already have going

[unreal topaz]

seems really unlucky

[iron kraken]

yudoasdjpfojiadsfapsdjoif

yoooooo\

like four rolls later

[unreal topaz]

not even close

[iron kraken]

ok how do i do this

[unreal topaz]

never worried for a second

[ancient gyro]

I don't count space as the benefits are permanent

[manic zealot]

that's also true

[unreal topaz]

dont forget to copy burglar

[iron kraken]

all copy burglar, then delay as long as possible and only play the last hand with as much steel as i can draw right?

[unreal topaz]

yep, exactly

burglar stays copied till the last hand

[iron kraken]

i can do my reserfgved parking for money copy i think

[unreal topaz]

and you left probably enough money to roll for serpent

[iron kraken]

just for kicks

[unreal topaz]

theres a failure rate there i think but its fiiiiine

[iron kraken]

Do you know how much steel I need of the full hand? Should I keep rolling for some tarots

[unreal topaz]

dont roll

reroll the boss

keep the money

[iron kraken]

oooo lucky hand tag

140 money

[unreal topaz]

oh nice

[pale wolf]

rip

[unreal topaz]

you'll prob have more than enough with both hand vouchers

[pale wolf]

🦓

[unreal topaz]

and both hand size

[iron kraken]

dalkjs;df needed the hand tag money

[unreal topaz]

not even close

[iron kraken]

i've been keeping track and this is like 2x as many rerolls as i needed for nay other anty

[manic zealot]

rip? how?

[iron kraken]

Ok burglar is being copied 4x

[pale wolf]

There's simply no way to progress past that point

[manic zealot]

I'm destroying every blind

[cloud sinew]

balatro

[pale wolf]

listen I understand that it can be hard to accept defeat

[manic zealot]

lmao

[iron kraken]

ok 20 hands i did it right

[lost vault]

balatro!!

[dense willow]

brotato?

[leaden mountain]

b414tr0

[leaden mountain]

brolatro

[placid swift]

elite ball knowledge

[manic zealot]

I kept cola because it's funny

[placid swift]

i just played cyriptid yesterday for the first time i think i developed a fucking migraine

[woven spire]

raised fist might be one of best poly

as how it looks)

[manic zealot]

I actually sold my raised fist for the cola so you read my mind

also yes it looks really good poly

[royal bobcat]

I was about to say that's c++ progress

Golden sticker cola is cook

Cool

[manic zealot]

lol it would've been good progress, I probably got the cola sticker on a baseball card run or something

[azure wasp]

I got C+ before I got C

[royal bobcat]

I got c++ before c

Teehee

Illusion be like

[azure wasp]

I just haven't needed 4x planet or tarot cards yet in a run, and I've been playing over a year

[manic zealot]

hell yeah it's gonna be another one of these runs

never mind the hook killed me (:

[obsidian oracle]

wtf

[iron kraken]

Yeah I'm for sure going to have a few gold cards in hand when i try for this naneinf hand. hope its enough

i'm drawing more gold than steel rn even though the ratio is like 3:1

[iron kraken]

Is 42 steel, 4 gold gonna be enough

i'm so happy

@unreal topaz thank you so much for helping and rooting me on (sorry for ping)

[barren wigeon]

im plain now

smh

is this how you poor people feel

this sucks

[uneven laurel]

has anyone(doc probs) ever done planet card only ( so level up jokers and planet cards only, no taro or point jokers )

watching his chips only run, and wondering if he's done the same but planet cards only instead

[calm furnace]

midas + credit card and 2 antes in debt but gold cards are just insane

[austere rain]

chat what's this build called

these are the jokers I wish I had when playing gold stake

[pale wolf]

Uh, jokerless counts right

[uneven laurel]

no cus your scoring uses glass and other card modifiers

[pale wolf]

oh

[uneven laurel]

I mean the only way you increase your score is planet cards

[shell dagger]

It sounds okay

[uneven laurel]

doc did it with only chip jokers here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izqD26lKa5A

[shell dagger]

Just find a blue seal on painted deck

[pale wolf]

esp if you're still allowing jokers

[shell dagger]

Or zodiac

[calm furnace]

xmult jokers allowed?

[uneven laurel]

I think burnt and space joker only

or like, money jokers as well

Pretty much, no joker which directly affects the score

[calm furnace]

sounds like find blue seal or die type of run

and shortcut

[pale wolf]

gold stake?

or anything

[uneven laurel]

so rules:
Gold stake
no +mult, +chip or x mult jokers or taro cards which affect cards

any deck but plasma

[calm furnace]

no tarot is a big hit to econ

oh

[pale wolf]

yea its doable imo

very doable

[analog dune]

Guys is bean bug worth it for a second time xdd
(First time I ever pulled it off yay)

Given my highest score on this run is like e95, my hand size is 17 ATM and it requires e78 rn this boss blind

I can probably get a bean but had 0 luck finding ectos / antimatter 🥲

[uneven laurel]

yeah just edited it so affect cards scoring, so no empress magican, hierophant, steel, tower/stone

[dense willow]

i hate verdant leaf

i was almost winning

ante 8

this mf broke my strategy

[uneven laurel]

oopse forgot wheel

[uneven laurel]

I think its doable, but i don't think anyone has done it

you need blue seal and burnt joker for sure

or burglar and space joker

also interested what the best hand is to level up

[pale wolf]

quick reference

[past mica]

If space joker ever hit 🥲

[uneven laurel]

I think you'd go for pair right?

[past mica]

Omg discord emojis suck

[pale wolf]

i mean you need less than half the rounds of blue seals with 4oak

[uneven laurel]

can you consistently get your deck to 4oak then level it up and survive though

[pale wolf]

you'd need to immediately build a lot of blue seals to do this so you'd have a lot of the same card usually, i think

[uneven laurel]

I guess you just need a lot of deaths and a blue seal

I've gotten to level 60 pair by ante 8 before in pair without trying too much

[crystal raft]

What do I do here? I have no clue what will be better for me

[native cape]

whats easiest way to unlock invis?

[manic zealot]

play painted deck

[crystal raft]

Painted

[native cape]

oke ty

ill give it a go

[cosmic sun]

2

[urban heath]

I finally beat green stake!

W me

[unborn cliff]

white stake

[sudden river]

does double chicot have any reverse boss blind effects for other bosses besides the manacle

[sudden river]

complete painted deck without taking negatives or antimatter

or rather you can take negatives but don't take more than your starting joker slots

[native cape]

im too bad i cant even beat painted deck lmao

[unborn cliff]

why couldnt this be a gold stake run

[native cape]

just farming money atm

whoops

i fcked up

[hard plover]

What are the odds of doubles in packs, 2 times in the same run

[unborn cliff]

foolish

[urban heath]

How do seeded runs work?

[shell dagger]

Depends how long you have showman for

But not low

[ancient gyro]

I don't think I can black++ in 3 days

[heavy heron]

i’m ngl i’ve been loving bootstraps recently

once you’re surviving

just hoard money

[ancient gyro]

oh

[heavy heron]

or.. find tenperances with your $69 egg

$72 now..

[ancient gyro]

I don't rememember my last bootystraps run

[sudden river]

speaking of egg I got to ante 6 with an ante 1 egg with zero temperances and died

the temperances did not show up

the econ wasn't econning

[wispy coral]

-mad world challenge
-looks inside
-photochad

[urban heath]

Are any of you guys on playstation

I'm highkey stuck and need guidance

[lost vault]

photochad
look inside
aahh help it burnsss aaughhh ahhsisii

[obtuse shuttle]

Oh

[wispy coral]

Unlucky

[sudden river]

is the game even any different on consoles besides controls and UI

[waxen quartz]

think baseball card is the star there. personally I like flashcard better, spend the money but see more shop stuff

[sudden river]

red card better than flash card

[waxen quartz]

(but if you have bull too, that's prob good enough to win)

[heavy heron]

well they're all components of a working build

bootstraps is the flat mult

baseball is the x mult

[waxen quartz]

you have 4 uncommons so baseball is x5, so 200 mult total. my preference is to have the flat mult from hand level though, then glass/steel nonsense is more worthwhile

wait, 3 uncommons. it's still pretty good 🙂 steel joker is kinda boring, but usually enough

(it's more fun to score while having to juggle keeping steel in hand)

[ashen talon]

Throwback runs are so fun

[zinc hawk]

I just hit a negative skip tag, gros Michel went extinct then Cavendish appeared as the negative

[ashen talon]

Just had a lucky one where I got it first shop and went wild

[native cape]

whohoo did it

can finally use invis

[hidden lance]

oh fuck you

[vocal rose]

devil

[vocal rose]

its fun when it works

but its typically ass

[errant brook]

I am so fucking pissed right now

Got to ante 32, started with Perkeo using Cryptid but that's it

Had over $6,000 and Turtle Bean + there being a hand size skip tag would seemingly get me through it

You know when the first Turtle Bean in the shop was?

CARD 860

IT'S AN UNCOMMON

[visual turtle]

A use for the funny face card

i think I miiight neeed xMult
because purple stak
e

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[visual turtle]

Ooh sock and blue skin

a

[unreal topaz]

np! glad to help :)

[unreal topaz]

i've been there with $9k and it didnt show up

nat negative instead of perkeo

[visual turtle]

do i get rid of
supernova

[ancient gyro]

i just killed five of your kind in zerbas terraria world from a random blood moon 💔

[manic zealot]

should I keep my luchador for the funnies

[unreal topaz]

you should show your deck composition, ante, hands/discards, and what supernova's at

[errant brook]

I didn't even have any of the crappy merchant vouchers either, so it could have been worse

Didn't find Ecto the whole seed but it wouldn't have mattered

[unreal topaz]

yep

[errant brook]

Not gonna get this lucky again for a while

[unreal topaz]

looking for one specific uncommon joker sucks

[errant brook]

The fact that ante 32 had a hand size voucher (albeit 2nd and not 1st, which would have been insane)

Like I feel the game is programmed to put the hand size voucher almost never at ante 32

It knows

[unreal topaz]

so sock is better than supernova right now, also keep in mind you should look to get out of pare long term, and scary face can go soon with the planet levels taking over

i'd look for econ jokers over pare

[shell dagger]

very rough calculation puts this about a 3% chance of happening 🙁

unlucky

[unreal topaz]

or maybe smth like faceless or business card over scary face

[shell dagger]

wait hang on

[visual turtle]

oh so pare continues to be useless
🥰

[manic zealot]

keeping this luchador my entire run but never using it felt like locking my door at night

[errant brook]

Hanging

[shell dagger]

8.4% chance

[errant brook]

How does it change if I had 4 other uncommons already bought

[shell dagger]

not much

[errant brook]

8.4% for it to not show up until 860 still sounds crazy

I hate this game sometimes

I can't IMAGINE doing this without Cryptid to start with Perkeo

[shell dagger]

7.7 i think

[errant brook]

Oh can also confirm now

ectoplasm didn't exist

Checked up to ante 39, granted I had to the rewind vouchers, but according to the soul, Ectoplasm did not exist in my seed

And I know I'm just gonna try again later because of course I am

[visual turtle]

I can't wait for the plant to show up
because it always does somehow

or the mark

[errant brook]

Usually what happens

[faint linden]

It feels like the spawn rate of Rentals is like 95% or something

[visual turtle]

Yeah nevermind i think im going to lose

Nvm i got a 2 pair

Oh boy i think i need more glass cards

I am not getting any xMult jokers

Oh my its the cerulean bell

I have to hope that I can get both glass 2 or make more of them

Killing myself

[native cape]

well this is upsetting... 2 invis and an upcomming rare

[manic zealot]

holy shit this was close, a negative credit card showed up just in time to give me enough extra purchases to buy the dusk and the oops, right before the ante 8 boss. ironically, the oops didn't do shit

I would've been annihilated by the violet vessel

[modern panther]

Ggs

[manic zealot]

pretty good for a hit the road run

pairs ftw

[static urchin]

I feel your pain💔💔

[modern panther]

We're back with more (purple) stake Balatro. In this video, a shop 1 buffoon pack gave me an eternal Supernova allowing for some early flat mult, and an Ante 2 Constellation gave me the times mult I needed to make the push into endless. Enjoy the video.

What's funny is there was an Astronomer in that shop 1 buffoon pack

[ancient gyro]

feels like 30% in my imo🧌

[faint linden]

Is it actually 30 and I just have terrible luck?

[ancient gyro]

its a flat 30% for all debuff stickers with rentals having no joker exceptions

outside of legendaries and interactions involving joker creation

[visual turtle]

oh eternal wee joker 💔

I've got
Like 3 two's
and i am not about to spend half the game trying to make 2's and not have it happen

[modern panther]

Don't forget that scaling jokers generally can't be perishable

[faint linden]

I knew that caveat. It's why I used Judgement on Orange Stake and it gave me Photograph, then The Fool gave me Hanging Chad

[sudden river]

the golden needle challenge is harder than the cruelty challenge

[faint linden]

Needless to say, I won that run, but just barely

[ancient gyro]

first sentence should cover this statement

no caveats

for rentals

[faint linden]

Except Soul and Judgement

Apparently

[ancient gyro]

.

[faint linden]

Or Riff-Raff, Top-Up Tags, etc.

[wicked moat]

Guys why does the game code prohibit Space Joker from ever triggering ever?

[modern panther]

Htr again?

[ancient gyro]

local player figures out probability for the first time

[ancient gyro]

hit the moon

o

[modern panther]

Exactly what I thought when I saw my typo

[faint linden]

Same RNG as Wheel

[wicked moat]

Yeah they're both 0%

[rich mauve]

the real question

why does it always trigger on fodder hands

[faint linden]

I mean, Wheel gave me a foil Castle last run

[rich mauve]

and not the one you're maining

[wicked moat]

What mod were you using?

[visual turtle]

no xMult jokers 💔

[rich mauve]

just a moment ago

I witness 2 procs back to back on high cards

🥀

[visual turtle]

Remembering to switch between cartomancer and gros michel is in-between annoying and not annoying

[twin lantern]

Hello Balatrocord

How's the Balatroing going

[modern panther]

I just need stonks now

And money tree

[rich mauve]

balaling my balala rn

[visual turtle]

Aaaaand I died

[twin lantern]

Game has been in my mind lately again

[visual turtle]

nvm

Might die later

[twin lantern]

Also a friend needs help with challenges so I just play again to show her it's not a coincidence that I can win so many runs

[rich mauve]

"just use pairs bro"

[pale wolf]

ahoy

[visual turtle]

Ok faceless joker
has been

useless

and by useless i mean

[dreamy creek]

i love bloodstone

[visual turtle]

I can't discard 3 face cards

anyways a new issue has arose

to copy certificate first or cartomancer

[quaint stag]

highstake balatro is genuine ragebait because wdym i died on orange stake every run last night but the first run i play today i get good vouchers, an eternal blueprint, early +mult scaling and a great xmult joker

[visual turtle]

I can't discard 3 face cards

[stray swift]

What do i do

[dreamy creek]

have you seen dr spectered's 40+ gold stake win streak

[quaint stag]

he's lowkey cracked out of his mind

[dreamy creek]

he jusy thinks

literally

[crisp merlin]

rip

[stray swift]

Lucky cat isnt an option

[glad viper]

gornk

[crisp merlin]

my shop was too crowded i couldnt get burglar in time and rerolled too agressively

[visual turtle]

logn pul

[dreamy creek]

💀

[visual turtle]

yaaaay brian storm

[modern panther]

Ggs

[visual turtle]

What do I even do

[dreamy creek]

@smoky merlin crush his skull

[glad viper]

balatroseption

[smoky merlin]

next time ping mods not just me please

[dreamy creek]

you can ping mods?

dam

sick

[visual turtle]

wait

i sold bootstraps

Now I can spawn

3 cards with a seal

[modern panther]

BuAnUaNuA

[visual turtle]

My banana card just died

[ancient gyro]

gets banned again

[honest dawn]

My game crashed.

[dreamy creek]

NOooo-

[serene forge]

fuck mee6

[glad viper]

i love bloodstone

[serene forge]

you don't get to say you love bloodstone and then use this image in the next message

[visual turtle]

aaaaaand I lost again

why can't this game give me

xMult

[dreamy creek]

i love bloodstone

[serene forge]

discard 3 face cards to get money from faceless joker to reroll the shop to see xmult jokers

[stray swift]

What do i do💔💔

[tepid skiff]

(stabs)

[serene forge]

sell photograph

[visual turtle]

But I can't because I only have two discards

[dreamy creek]

-1 dmg

[visual turtle]

and recycling wasn't anywhere to be seen

[serene forge]

play your hands to get 3 face cards in your hand then discard them

[wicked moat]

What's the advantage of playing pairs rather than high card?

[serene forge]

mercury scales better

[dreamy creek]

you die when you cant draw pairs

[serene forge]

and pairs have better xmult options

[visual turtle]

Ok but I'm using 2 pair
So every card counts

[dreamy creek]

high card is more reliable than pairs

if you ever fail to draw a pair then its gg

[ancient gyro]

you do this all the time but without the irony

[lost vault]

bloodstone more like horsestone

[lost vault]

thats a really big if

[serene forge]

you bastards will glaze bloodstone in one breath then call pairs inconsistent in the next breath

[wicked moat]

Barely. 1 mult and 15 chips vs 1 mult and 10 chips

[serene forge]

this type of mental gymnastics needs to be studied in a lab

[lost vault]

1.5x diff btw

[dreamy creek]

yeah and thats how i play balatro

you can play your pair wat

i play this way

[visual turtle]

Hoping i don't get

Obelisk

no offense but that's like

too much work

[serene forge]

gon shack architect

[dreamy creek]

bloodstone is so goated

[visual turtle]

for 10x mult at like ante 8

[dreamy creek]

i love bloodstone

[ancient gyro]

look how this conversation started 💔
#🎙・server-chat message

[serene forge]

yeah so 50% better chip scaling

for pretty much the same effort

[lost vault]

bloodstone fans when it whiffs 4 times in one hand and they die on the spot

[glass mountain]

@everyone

[glass mountain]

:>

[dreamy creek]

bloodstone haters after not deck fixing to play 2 heart flushes (all they needed was one tarrot)

[lost vault]

bloodstone fans when it whiffs 3 times two hands in a row and they die on the spot

[serene forge]

bloodstone users have stockholm syndrome

[visual turtle]

The head

[wicked moat]

I guess that could end up being pretty significant if you don't have any extra source of +chips

[dreamy creek]

pair glazers doing the same thing 1001020201010 times and calling balatro fun

[tepid skiff]

bloodstone fans after getting stabbed

[ancient gyro]

gordon when he's the smartest person in the room and all the flush sons went to bed

[stray swift]

Please bro what do i sell😭

[lost vault]

in fairness i never said pairs are fun

[dreamy creek]

parry

[lost vault]

theyre just good

[visual turtle]

That can apply to hand

[lost vault]

and for whatvitsvworth

its still fun

[wicked moat]

The real play is going pairs for the first half and then getting obelisk and switching to high card

[dreamy creek]

this is so true

[serene forge]

bloodstone glazers losing 1001020201010 times in a row because bloodstone is shit then saying they actually just died to be funny or something

[ancient gyro]

why did I get pinged 3 times from this

[visual turtle]

ok but what if you get oops all 6's

[dreamy creek]

also has consistentlly said "i hate bloodstone" for no reason 9292829 times

[serene forge]

not for no reason

[visual turtle]

and you get the head ante 1

[serene forge]

there's very good reason

[dreamy creek]

explain thyself

[weary idol]

One gold sticker to go. And it’s showman. (Plus last 3 challenges)

[lost vault]

bloodstone fans when they realize oa6 isnt guaranteed to show ip

[lost vault]

its a good bit

[dreamy creek]

give reasons

[visual turtle]

what about bloodstone itself

[tepid skiff]

how bloodstone fans feel after finding a round 1 eternal rental bloodstone

[visual turtle]

what about everyone's favorite cards

[serene forge]

yeah bloodstone gets less shit once you ignore several of the major reasons for why it sucks

[lost vault]

i love certificate

[serene forge]

you do all that and then what

you get an ancient joker that takes 2 slots

lmfao

[dreamy creek]

i have yet to hear one valid one

[tepid skiff]

square joker my beloved

[lost vault]

you have heard valid ones actually

[light brook]

shoot the moon because i suck at the game

[dreamy creek]

^2 ahh jonkler

[lost vault]

you just deem them as invalid cuz they make ur joker look bad

[serene forge]

bloodstone fans when

[visual turtle]

At least I can say canio sucks

[dreamy creek]

same goes to pair glazers on the eye

[lost vault]

bloodstone fans when i smash their skull with a fucking brick

[visual turtle]

and tribolet sounds terrible

[dreamy creek]

+parry

[lost vault]

you know bloodstone dies to eye too by your own logic

[dreamy creek]

valid

[lost vault]

"play 2 flushes"

[dreamy creek]

canio sucks

[serene forge]

i don't like carp sharp

[ancient gyro]

huh

[dreamy creek]

or the mouth

[tepid skiff]

(cutely stabs)

[dreamy creek]

pair builds rarley one tap

[serene forge]

why would a pair build die to mouth

[visual turtle]

Like having+ 1x mult is good
but then I have to somehow destroy 12 specific cards.

[serene forge]

are you stupid

[light brook]

he’s not bad just very situational (really only good with photochad esque builds)

[lost vault]

bloodstone glazers when bloodstone whiffs 4 times on the needle snd they die on the spot

[visual turtle]

and if I can't destroy said 12 specific cards?

oh well

10$

[serene forge]

?????????

[lost vault]

no you have to destroy 1 of 12 cards

not all of them

[dreamy creek]

bloodstone haters after i score more chips than money in the world economy

[lost vault]

canio isnt 2x mult if you have no faces

[serene forge]

destroying 12 cards gives you 13x mult

not 2x

lol

[lost vault]

bloodstone fans realizing you dont need to overscore to win and the risk to whiff is very dangerous

[dreamy creek]

where proof

[lost vault]

read canio's description

[visual turtle]

I know

[ancient gyro]

wheres gordon

[dreamy creek]

bloodstone haters when i show them what 1.5x mult once gets them

[dreamy creek]

hi

[serene forge]

bloodstone users when they fucking die because it sucks

[light brook]

adds x1, starts at x1, so after one is destroyed 1+1=2

[dreamy creek]

skill issue

never planed ahead

[lost vault]

on a level 10 flush it gets you 11 mult

[serene forge]

yeah using bloodstone is a skill issue

[lost vault]

thats less than a mystic summit

[serene forge]

if you were good at this game you would know bloodstone is rarely the answer

[tepid skiff]

bloodstone fans after I push them off a fucking cliff

[dreamy creek]

think about it this way

[light brook]

bloodstone neutrals when it’s really only consistently good with oops

[dreamy creek]

polychrome every other card

[lost vault]

yeah

[serene forge]

best bloodstone usecase:

[lost vault]

not exactly

[dreamy creek]

you see how rare polychrome is

[lost vault]

probabikities are silly

[dreamy creek]

*on average

[lost vault]

ngl i'd rather have a foil card than a polychrome card in like 80% of runs

[dreamy creek]

polychrome is rare and powerful

bloodstone is same as polychrome

[ancient gyro]

me when i crop

[dreamy creek]

bloodstone is then good

[lost vault]

its usually weaker than holographic

lmfao

[serene forge]

no yo're thinking of ancient joker

[dreamy creek]

thats like early game

[serene forge]

ancient joker would be 5 procs of 1.5x

[lost vault]

early game its even worse

[visual turtle]

Forget bloodstone actually

[serene forge]

bloodstone would be 0 polychromes

[visual turtle]

Onyx agate & rough gem 🥰

[dreamy creek]

ok aj is even MORE prone to boss blinds

[serene forge]

nope

[minor portal]

bloodstone is great when you want your score to vary by hundreds of thousands

[light brook]

i can say this about bloodstone: it is good but very inconsistent to the point where it’s hard to justify using it without oops because of the constant risk of losing later antes

[lost vault]

???

[dreamy creek]

aj has 4 counter at random times

[lost vault]

aj is literally immune to boss blinds if your jusy capable of using uour damn brain

[serene forge]

there are a few boss blinds that can maybe kill you with aj, flint and mouth

[dreamy creek]

*your

[serene forge]

which also can kill you with bloodstone

[lost vault]

yeah

[visual turtle]

oh i got dna 0_0

[dreamy creek]

ironic

[serene forge]

ancient joker does not get countered by suit bosses

bloodstone does

[tepid skiff]

so there's this thing called skipping

[visual turtle]

I can't say I hate it but

[lost vault]

i was typing fast okay

[visual turtle]

I don't have a use for it?

[light brook]

how do we tell him…

[dreamy creek]

i see my rage bait is working

[lost vault]

hes right

[dreamy creek]

[visual turtle]

It's not like im
Always killing off half my deck

[serene forge]

people really just skip for ante 1 rare tag then refuse to skip at a time that it would actually save their ass

[lost vault]

im not mad gang

[serene forge]

holy moly

[minor portal]

maybe we need to consider bluestone as an alternative

[dreamy creek]

*I'm

[lost vault]

real and true

[pale wolf]

water, needle, mouth... what

[light brook]

ohhh my bad i misunderstood

[lost vault]

'kay

[pale wolf]

whats the fourth

[dreamy creek]

[ancient gyro]

serpent

[tepid skiff]

(stabs and enjoys it)

[pale wolf]

new serpent will be for sure

[lost vault]

me next

[ancient gyro]

lawl

[visual turtle]

Ok nvm
The psychic

[dreamy creek]

nah real talk i dont like bloodstone that much j just wanted yo argur

i love yall ❤️

[serene forge]

head counters ancient joker because hearts are the only good suit so you will build towards hearts and get them debuffed by the head

[lost vault]

if you love me you wouldnt rage bait me

[dreamy creek]

for participating😊

[lost vault]

smh

[ancient gyro]

we found gordon

[lost vault]

ecactly

[ancient gyro]

now we gotta find brooke

[ember meteor]

first joker choice on black deck, i think its trousers right but i love trading card

[dreamy creek]

btw ive been rage baitting since day 1

[serene forge]

smartest bloodstone user

[dreamy creek]

gone

[lost vault]

fuck u

[visual turtle]

ok leeets try again

[dreamy creek]

prolly still working in the kitchen job

[lost vault]

def trousers

[dreamy creek]

thanks

[serene forge]

take trousers without even thinking

[dreamy creek]

fills by rage bait quota

[lost vault]

no problem 💖

ill go harder next time

nayway

[dreamy creek]

❣️

[visual turtle]

Hooray vampire

[stray swift]

Do i sell brainstorm/blueprint?

[visual turtle]

Now I just have to

not be poor

which

[lost vault]

said nobody ever!!!

[visual turtle]

is a hard thing to do

somehow

[lost vault]

vampire isnt bad hes just very whelming

[light brook]

what’s lucky cat at

[lost vault]

sell chad gangy

[tepid skiff]

me when hot vampire

[lost vault]

blueth nuke

[modern panther]

Im pissed

[stray swift]

4.25 but i got it like 3 rounds ago so its gonna scale a lot

[minor portal]

sell the next round button to buy bs

[light brook]

then i’d say probably brainstorm

[lost vault]

ccabsitnsrr

credit card and brainstorm in the next shop reroll

💔

[light brook]

or ancient if you don’t have good enough deck fixing

[modern panther]

Unfortunately, the next round button is Jimbo in disguise. Only $1

[lost vault]

? ancient doesnt need deck fixing

it helps yes but its not super necessary

[stray swift]

I do

[lost vault]

sell the roffle video

[light brook]

i was under the assumption that if you have an entire deck of diamonds it would only hit diamonds

is it random?

[lost vault]

nope

[light brook]

huh the more you know

[lost vault]

the beauty of aj

[light brook]

okay uhh then brainstorm or chad is probably the play

[lost vault]

sell the meow meow

[visual turtle]

burnt joker 💔

[lost vault]

well idk

[visual turtle]

Im Happy it Levels up hands but

[light brook]

that’s what i said but he said it’s gunna scale further

[visual turtle]

I don't need a

level 11 high card

[lost vault]

i doubt it'll be better than what he has already

ykw

[visual turtle]

•~•

[lost vault]

ir doesnt matter what u sell ur gonna win

[modern panther]

Oh, yeah... lemme che- what the Geggiftcardiftcardiftcardiftcard? $69420?

[light brook]

true it’s all about what you’re fine parting with long term

[lost vault]

pog

[lost vault]

it doesnt matter xuz its the last blind

[light brook]

well i’m saying if he wants to go further lol

[visual turtle]

mail in rebate!!!

[lost vault]

now who would do that

:clueless:

[visual turtle]

I love when It gives me face cards

and

they never appear

[lost vault]

ok

[visual turtle]

actually it always seems like
the card it wants never appears until I have 0 discards

or I need it

[modern panther]

That hurts

[lost vault]

use hands to dig for it

[wintry ice]

try using hands before discards for it if you're able to

[visual turtle]

Also I love when tarot cards have

nothing

[wintry ice]

double campfire start

what the heck

[visual turtle]

to scale vampire

[lost vault]

hold onto bad tarots so that you get good ones

[visual turtle]

I can DO that

[modern panther]

Campfire in buffoon pack into Ankh looking for Immo

[wintry ice]

crazy

[lost vault]

you win

:]

[placid ridge]

If you get a really early DNA, do you start using it right away or do you wait until you have fancy cards?

[wintry ice]

you have riff to get scaling mult so yea

[tepid skiff]

sell campfire for 1.25x mult on campifire

[ancient gyro]

scuffed bbc

[wintry ice]

i'd just sell it for 4$

[lost vault]

uhhh i'd wait yeah

[wintry ice]

it's not really worth it to copy random cards

[ancient gyro]

selling it for interest

[lost vault]

wait till you get a purple seal

or sell

[wintry ice]

or a blue seal

[lost vault]

im biased

[ancient gyro]

if it's marble I generally keep it for a couple of antes or until I get a blue seal/gold card

[lost vault]

marble?

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[wintry ice]

chips are chips so it does make sense

[ancient gyro]

its for mid game and slightly more late game pivot options (hologram, vampire, dl)

and also flint repellent

[lost vault]

ngl i have no idea how good marble is i never take it

[placid ridge]

I'm keeping it for 2 reasons. 1. it's eternal 2. I need the gold sticker

[visual turtle]

Yeah im not surviving

[wintry ice]

i don't think i'd ever take an eternal dna early on unless it's for stickering

[visual turtle]

At least later

[ancient gyro]

its better on harder decks if that makes any sense

for when you have to rely on the lower end of the joker pool because they do something on harder difficulties

[wintry ice]

just wait until you get a blue, purple seal or red seal gold/steel/glass

[visual turtle]

I got the eye

I am

resetting

[ancient gyro]

oh

[wintry ice]

the fact it's on the first hand also makes it harder to get value from things like rebate because you need to discard before playing your hands

[terse vale]

um

good game

?

[pale wolf]

"i am resetting"

well i never

[terse vale]

I lowkey wanna reset cus it looks too easy

[ancient gyro]

"i am zebra"

[wintry ice]

balatro is indeed a good game

[lost vault]

here, win

[pale wolf]

i am inevitable

i am zebra

[ancient gyro]

the silly needler

[viral raft]

Red seal should get a buff/rework??? imo is easily the worst Seal because all the others works in all situations while Red seal only works in glass cards and Lucky card builds

[terse vale]

hmm nah i’ll start a streak

[pale wolf]

its fine

1. that's incorrect

[visual turtle]

I can tell im going to lose because I won't have any other hands to play

[wintry ice]

honestly i feel like the problem is that blue and purple are almost overtuned

[pale wolf]

red seal is most useful on gold cards imo

[wintry ice]

(well blue definitely is overtuned but not purple)

[ancient gyro]

i think it's fine, there has to be a worst seal and it's currently got a fine value floor

[viral raft]

Red seal is fine but the other seals are just strong as hell

[ancient gyro]

that's ok

[viral raft]

true, i forget about that thanks

[pale wolf]

its okay for one to be worse though

thats not like, an issue

[ancient gyro]

offsetting it with certain enhancements is fine as long as it has its use cases in runs frequent enough

unlike some jokers

[pale wolf]

it has different niches that let it excel when others wouldnt in special gameplay and otherwise is still an improvement to a card if it happens to have it

[viral raft]

that's true, i just found sad how Red seal is easily the less good of the 4 seals

[ancient gyro]

like the worst seal is kinda in comparison to the worst econ joker and it's still at face value something you'd like to have

[modern panther]

Halvsies or square man?

[pale wolf]

it's close enough to gold seal that a lot of people think its better than gold seal

[unreal topaz]

i think right now a big part of it is that it suffers bc of the pair meta, it's good with higher ranking hands to have some red seal steel/glass

but with pairs it doesnt look as good

[cloud sinew]

making red seal work for discard effects would be a good change

[ancient gyro]

and that the other three seals do something on their own

6 dolla trading card 👅

[pale wolf]

it should tbh

[viral raft]

also really true, pairs just depends of playing pairs, not scoring stuff, if you play a flush or a straight you mostly like to have a red seal to trigger jokers/enhancements

[cloud sinew]

cert trading card value 🔥

[pale wolf]

trading card is technically a hand discard effect though right

like faceless would be

so it wouldnt get retriggered

[unreal topaz]

it works like rebate/castle with hook+stuntman so yea

[cloud sinew]

i dont follow your logic

[modern panther]

Ima go square man if no response

[unreal topaz]

it would get retriggered

[viral raft]

kinda insane in some situations but is a good idea

[unreal topaz]

i think

[pale wolf]

like red seals dont retrigger blackboard

trading card isnt giving an effect to the card when discarded, its triggered when the discard is 1 card

[lost vault]

square up ‼️

[unreal topaz]

okay i see what ur saying

[cloud sinew]

then arguably no discard effects do that

[pale wolf]

its an activation condition rather than an effect

[unreal topaz]

so like faceless and not castle

[unreal topaz]

faceless kinda?

[ancient gyro]

ight

[pale wolf]

arguably why red seals dont currently retrigger discard effects

[cloud sinew]

faceless isnt "giving an effect to the card"

[tepid skiff]

coughing baby vs literal SQUARE JOKER

[lost vault]

rebate !!

[pale wolf]

faceless is another hand discard effect, unlike something like castle

imo

[unreal topaz]

i dont think red seals would work with faceless, but with rebate sure

[shell dagger]

obelisk actually goated

[cloud sinew]

"would" or "should"? because "would" is just a matter of implementation

so thats speculative

[pale wolf]

if you were to make this change

[ancient gyro]

so basically make red seals work on scaling discard jokers instead of activation requirements

[viral raft]

Obelisk my GOAT

[unreal topaz]

good point

[waxen quartz]

even not endless redseal gets pretty strong. i.e. glass or steel

[shell dagger]

ghost streak up to 6, trying for 10

[ancient gyro]

o

[cloud sinew]

woah congrats

[ancient gyro]

gl

[unreal topaz]

maybe they shouldn't then

[pale wolf]

i.e. you can't retrigger DNA with a red seal either because its a 1 card played hand condition instead of giving an ability to the card itself, maybe

[unreal topaz]

nice!

[cloud sinew]

i disagree with the "giving an ability to the card itself" logic, but i agree somewhat with what you're meaning

[quaint stag]

blue seal is so broken

second gold stake clear :p

[unreal topaz]

well if chad doesn't retrigger dna then red seals shouldn't, there just isn't anything that retriggers discards already

[terse vale]

gg for real this time

[pale wolf]

its the difference between being able to use the joker on a debuffed card or not

[terse vale]

unless I get the eye

WHICH IS NEVER GONNA HAPPEN RIGHT

[pale wolf]

i think you can use dna on debuffed cards right

[cloud sinew]

this is more cohesive i think

[pale wolf]

i'm not saying it should

[terse vale]

MY FUCKING ONTERNET

[heavy heron]

…well.. whatever…

[cloud sinew]

you can use DNA but not Sixth Sense iirc

[manic zealot]

I couldn't believe this was happening when the invis showed up and a scoring joker was in the shop

[pale wolf]

i'm saying specfically trading card might be along the lines of dna instead of something else

[terse vale]

bro

[cloud sinew]

yeah

[manic zealot]

so I sold out and grabbed double blueprint

[ancient gyro]

would the average player get confused if you implement it on scaling joker discards such as rebate/castle/htr and exclude faceless/trading card/burnt? i kinda like this format

[quaint stag]

this cannot be.

[lost vault]

can i not talk

[cloud sinew]

faceless should work because it doesn't work on debuffed faces

[terse vale]

is faceless just “gives 5 dollars if 3 face cards are discarded”

[lost vault]

why is ky epic roffle reaction not sending

[quaint stag]

LMAO I TRIED TO REPLY TO THE BLUESTAKE MESSAGE
discord shit itself

[olive basin]

What?

Chicot?

Again

[pale wolf]

maybe, but it's just a natural consequence of red seals being card modifiers unless they gain a special property to affect whole hands

sometimes people get confused at blackboard and red seals/mime

[tepid skiff]

I need to find more roffle reaction pics

[lost vault]

and hand them all to me

i need to watch roffle's heavy more

[quaint stag]

btw what joker is this? i have every one except for this one

oh and this one too apparently

[ancient gyro]

you're saying 20 dolla faceless value without copies 🗣️

its like rebate never left (joke)

[cloud sinew]

but it makes sense when you explain that blackboard is boolean and it just gives x3 when that condition is met a single time.
i.e:
If ( all cards held in hand are Spades or Clubs)
{
3x mult
}
1x

[prisma jay]

Chat what banana cultivar do you think this is

[pale wolf]

it's part of an activation condition rather than a retriggerable card effect, and Mime specifies card effects

[pale wolf]

lakatan

idk

its probably like a plantain

[cloud sinew]

card held in hand abilities, yeah

[prisma jay]

Thats what i'm thinking

[lost vault]

idk but i want it in me

as in i wanna eat it

[olive basin]

Giant Eagle Brand

[cloud sinew]

plaintains are more green than that i think

[ancient gyro]

they can ripe

unless this is the reward from a prerequisite of having to unripe the green plantain

[pale wolf]

i think it would be cool, in the case of the collection being expanded in information from the normal tooltips ingame, to have a "flush" of red seals in a joker's activation condition retrigger it

[weary idol]

Golden needle complete. Super fun. Cruelty and joker less seem super luck based.

[last path]

painted deck gold stake win

[manic zealot]

such a hologram moment

[lost vault]

yorick moment*

[last path]

hologram got replaced in endless

for a blueprint

and faceless got replaced with the trio

[lost vault]

oh great now i have to gold painted deck

[cloud sinew]

could be a horn banana

[foggy bison]

Stupid question since I’ve been out of the loop for a while, is the 1.1 big update/DLC thing still happening?

[cloud sinew]

yes

[pale wolf]

definitely happening, no time frame

[cloud sinew]

it's done when it's done

[foggy bison]

I see. Bummer.

[pale wolf]

plenty of progress and small leaks though

[ancient gyro]

basically 1.4.5 levels of ambiguity for update announcements

[foggy bison]

Bummer on the latter part of course

Not the former.

[last path]

do you think the game will eventually have exponential jokers as a legendary?

[ancient gyro]

no

[lost vault]

hmmmm..

[olive basin]

starchy bananas ?

[pale wolf]

i think it might be this new banana tbh

its funny af if it is

[lost vault]

so AQQJ9 all hearts would be a strush with 4 fingers

[unreal topaz]

seems better than usual on painted

[ancient gyro]

were you in this discussion during the reckoning in chill chat

[lost vault]

and shortcat

[pale wolf]

short cat

[shell dagger]

What if its just a cav resprite

[pale wolf]

i dont think so

[olive basin]

short dog

[pale wolf]

it would be weird

[ancient gyro]

ace high strush with shortcut 4f pari counts as a royal flush

[lost vault]

read the message i replied to

[ancient gyro]

edit

[pale wolf]

(im very sure its at least one of the new "food jokers" thunk was talking about over a few day time span)

[prisma jay]

It gon stick off the card 😭

Might be dwarf cavendish or plantain

[ancient gyro]

c++ challenge no losses difficulty ^ 🥀

[lost vault]

:(

[pale wolf]

i mean

[lost vault]

i could take it for a round

[pale wolf]

would two of those be worth killing madness

probably

[lost vault]

two?

[pale wolf]

if theres an ankh in the spectral

[lost vault]

btw theres an eternal photo

i see i see

[ancient gyro]

what standout niche should the other higher ranking poker hands have in the next update?

currently we got straights/4oak for planet scaling glass cannons and full house/5oak for on card scoring joker scoring/scaling (fib/wee)

[cloud sinew]

🤓 you can't actually get C++ without ever losing

[pale wolf]

thats also a lot of money to spend so prob not

[lost vault]

i shall take the rebate then crack spectral

[pale wolf]

why

[cloud sinew]

bones'

unlock requirement

"lose 5 times"

[lost vault]

at the least i can get money the round after

[ancient gyro]

sans