🕹・game-discussion

[zealous zinc]

its not that much worse

[potent tree]

0 planet scaling is wild

[stiff robin]

lmaooo

that's rough

[potent tree]

oh wait we lived that round

[stiff robin]

but wow 3 7x mults is nuts

[atomic trout]

Seriously. Are we saying that planet scaling is baad?

[lone tendon]

despite the fact that vagabond tarots carried my run the post win shop is making me scream internally

[atomic trout]

Needs campfire

[patent sail]

Honestly how do you build around straights? Like i know they are strong, but i cant get them to work myself or get betrayed at the worst possible moment by horrible draws

[lone tendon]

then get more draws

(actual honest advice)

[patent sail]

🐈

Live cat emoji reaction

[atomic trout]

Gato

[potent tree]

surely it's joever now

[zealous zinc]

cut the outer cards (aces and kings, and 2s and 3s) and so on

and they are strong, but pairs are better

[potent tree]

yeah we didn't get the mult trigger

ah well, still strange for a run

[patent sail]

Riff raff just gave me a negative green jonkler

🎉🐈🎊

[glossy forge]

Riff Raff my beloved

[lone tendon]

i had no idea riff raff could give negatives

[patent sail]

It can

[patent sail]

Its very fun honestly

Like i take him early on if i can

[patent sail]

Because gambling is fun 🎰🤑💸

[zealous zinc]

also @patent sail just fyi i have 4 discards on this deck rn because im playing gold stake with docs proposed changes on black deck

so like 4 discards makes straights way more consistent obviously

[glossy forge]

Low-key econ joker even if I'm just selling the junk jokers he spawns

[patent sail]

That as well

[weak relic]

First time actually getting to play midas + vamp

[patent sail]

Also riff raff can spawn in negative photochad at any moment, we must keep gambling till we get it

[patent sail]

Insane gaming

[zealous zinc]

do you take hallucination here? i have +9 on the teller but +6 on red card

[weak relic]

Son

[zealous zinc]

i feel like hallu into both packs right?

[patent sail]

If you die without them dont

[zealous zinc]

i shouldnt

[lone tendon]

So close to the end

[zealous zinc]

i dont think

[patent sail]

If youll be fine then sure as hell

[zealous zinc]

im worried i die later

if i dont find xmult

and this means i have 3 joker slots to work around

ngl

i prolly drop crazy joker actually

[glossy forge]

Vampire has to be the most underwhelming joker in my experience 😭 I once played that combo with Golden Ticket as well

Dedicating three joker slots for synergy is too much

[patent sail]

But its a very fun synergy

[glossy forge]

Fun, definitely

[patent sail]

I got it on mad world challenge once

[stone hornet]

What should I be aiming to get in the shop? Not sure what to roll for at this point

[patent sail]

Its stupid but also fun

[lone tendon]

when i use vampire the voices in my head change in to count von count

[patent sail]

Probably showman for more blueprints/brainstorms? Idek honestly

Hot run as it is

[stone hornet]

Kinda what I’m leaning on, not sure what to trade it for in the meantime

Almost all glass tho so run will probably end in a bit

[zealous zinc]

welp this is the big killer

i think this kills any black deck run easily though

[potent tree]

chicken strips

or luchador

[zealous zinc]

wasnt paying attention sadly

but yea

ill keep trying this deck idea

it actually doesnt feel much harder

[tacit quail]

Econ check

[potent tree]

golden needle ahh econ

[zealous zinc]

i wonder if doc would like to play with this and see for himself

[patent sail]

Maybe hot take, i find it harder than jonklerless

[rough wyvern]

lmao

[potent tree]

no, i'd agree with that

[lost vault]

bro got undiscovered

[stiff robin]

that pillar gonna screw me :(((

[potent tree]

i simply got lucky finding AJ on golden needle

that's how i won...

[lost vault]

its ante 10 ur goood

[tacit quail]

you know how it is

[stiff robin]

ill let ya know how it goes haha

[patent sail]

I have 2 challenges remaining and those are golden needle and jokerless 🐈🎊🎉

[potent tree]

those were my last two as well on the first save

[stiff robin]

ohhh wait

[potent tree]

i haven't done any challenges this save

[stiff robin]

theres a boss tag

[rough wyvern]

fr

[patent sail]

Jokerless i got 60k on the best run

Golden needle didnt even get past ante 2

[potent tree]

just farm for 4oaks until you get good xmult source

eh nvm

[patent sail]

Cruelty was hard but instantly won as soon as i got early madness

[potent tree]

i can't remember how i beat cruelty last time

[patent sail]

I pulled holo madness and that won by itself 😭

And then 2 random poly jokers for last boss

Madness honestly my beloved

[potent tree]

imagine typecast but with anaglyph deck and ante 4 small blind has a negative tag

which you are FORCED to skip for

(you'd be forced to play ante 4 big blind as well)

[patent sail]

Typecast is one of those challenges i randomly easily won and have no recollection of how it went

[patent sail]

So 3 extra jonklers

[weak relic]

What exactly happens when I get $55? (I have paint brush voucher)

[zealous zinc]

does black deck often kill yall on gold stake normally?

[patent sail]

Honestly what if

Challenge where you get 0 joker slots and only available tags are negative

[zealous zinc]

unless u go pairs this seems just a boss blind that kills you

[pastel perch]

Balarto?????

[weak relic]

Iirc you cant even pick up any negatives

[zealous zinc]

i was close too i hit 30k the second hand

fuck

[patent sail]

This kills my black deck runs even without gold stake

[zealous zinc]

yea

black deck already pushes you away from pairs by default

[patent sail]

Yeah, so like

You HAVE to skip if you want to have jokers

[weak relic]

I had a near-perfect lineup for it

[zealous zinc]

this is testing to see if 2 hands ruins other builds too

[weak relic]

Wrong ss

But you get it

[patent sail]

[patent sail]

Wait my dumbass misread what you said

[zealous zinc]

wow this is the worst scoring ever

[patent sail]

My bad

[zealous zinc]

WHY ARE ALL THE SCORING JOKERS RENTAL

i might actually have to go spaceman and pray i get planet levels

[weak relic]

Lol

[gloomy vigil]

lovely

[zealous zinc]

cursed fucking run

i might just reset

[patent sail]

Maybe then 1 joker slot filled with some less than useful eternal? Something like credit card

Or honesly just 1 joker slot

[weak relic]

Alright so I have $55 now, will I just die having no hand size?

[placid ridge]

Beat jokerless

[weak relic]

Guess there's only one way to find out

[patent sail]

This boss is why im afraid of jokerless

50% for violet vessel is insane

[zealous zinc]

is there anyone who is a very good GS player here thats willing to try this challenge/mod/proposed change

[placid ridge]

well, my previous run lost to cerulean bell because I didn't think through bringing steel tarot cards instead of glass tarot cards. I would've won if I had brought glass instead.

[weak relic]

0/0

[placid ridge]

which challenge is this? Omelette?

[zealous zinc]

FUCK YEA

[weak relic]

Luxury tax ofc

[zealous zinc]

PERFECT STRAIGHT BUILD SHOP

[patent sail]

I personally think bell is way less scary cuz it never really killed any of my runs 😭 vessel certainly have, though

But like why not glass? Those give more mult than steel

[placid ridge]

oh, yeah. I didn't see the 0/0 in the screenshot. lol

[patent sail]

Watch all hanged man tarots just disappear from the shop

[weak relic]

Had that happened to me once

My Canio is hungry

[patent sail]

This is exactly what happens whenever i get canio

[weak relic]

Not even trading card

[placid ridge]

I took the fool and steel thinking "oh great, I'll get to use this for multiple hands".
but uhh... no.

[weak relic]

All of em just Noexsisten

[placid ridge]

Should've taken justice with my fool

[patent sail]

He actually just eats them all, all means of destroying cards disappear as soon as i get him

[zealous zinc]

i died

again i cant tell if i suck or this is hard

i need a good GS player

[patent sail]

May just be hard 😭

[stone hornet]

Died wah might be my non-plasma hs?

[zealous zinc]

i feel like i suck tho

[weak relic]

Rng just sucks ass, it happens

[zealous zinc]

unironically not just trying to put myself down

[stone hornet]

Wish there was a way to filter out plasma high score

[zealous zinc]

i need a good GS player to test this to see if its actually hard

[stone hornet]

Or have it be seperate

[weak relic]

Dw I also thought about that like months ago

[patent sail]

Get doc to play it 🎉

[zealous zinc]

i want to but i dont wanna js ping him

esp in this server

does he have his own discord

[tacit quail]

rare joker idea: Adds x0.5 mult per $ of sell value in Consumables area

[patent sail]

For members only i think

Like paid access

[zealous zinc]

damnit

[patent sail]

Only members/kofi contributors i think

[zealous zinc]

theres an eternal rental BBC in shop

fuck id take this no question if it wasnt ALSO rental

[patent sail]

Whats bbc again

[zealous zinc]

bace ball card

[patent sail]

I mean you got the moneys, maybe its fine? Though no econ jonklers so idk

[placid ridge]

Is there a good way to quickly determine how many gold stickers you have? The Joker Stickers percentage doesn't really give me that information.

[pearl moss]

You count them

Just the one that is not gold

[zealous zinc]

this eats a dollar worth of interest minimum

[patent sail]

[placid ridge]

that's quite effective later on, though it seems that I'm around the halfway point. My quick count (of the ones with the sticker) was 76.

[patent sail]

OH HES JUMPING

I thought he was floating in a cool pose or something 😭 i see it now

[pearl moss]

Good luck

[placid ridge]

thanks lol

[zealous zinc]

this is the decision i made chat

[pearl moss]

The most annoying was the can expire themselves like popcorn and banana

[zealous zinc]

i skipped for investment tag

so throwback is actually not useless here

[pearl moss]

And then the final joker would be the hardest because they don't appear when you want them to

[patent sail]

Skipping on black deck may be very harmful

[placid ridge]

yeah, I had a run with a negative perishable banana, which successfully got debuffed, but unfortunately I lost.

[pearl moss]

Midas took too many tries just get it because RNG was not in my side. Despite winning 5 gold stake no Midas hand ever appear

[patent sail]

Actually not bad yeah, money and throwback value

[zealous zinc]

indeed but i dont intend to skip basically ever anyways

it was just happenstance that ante 1 had a investment tag

ok thank god

the water appeared early

ok i just realized ive been playing black deck liek i had 5 joker slots this whole time

i keep forgetting its not just a challenge deck and that there is an upside

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[patent sail]

Honestly if i play it i also keep forgetting you actually get an extra jonkler slot 😭

[patent sail]

My beloved tho....,

[placid ridge]

So you say this, like 7 times daily? lol

[glossy forge]

I hate bloodstone

[formal shadow]

photo or rocket hmmmmm

[glossy forge]

Rocket early on

[edgy junco]

Up to purple stake, this is really fun. Orange stake's a pain. Gold stake makes me want to yeet the deck

[glossy forge]

At this low level, your best Photograph hand is just +4 mult

[edgy junco]

You could show me the source code and I still wouldn't believe rental stickers have a 30% chance to show up per joker

[glossy forge]

It's 100% until it isn't 😭

[edgy junco]

Might as well be. I've had 5 runs in a row now where at least 3 of the first 4 jokers I see are rentals

[rough wyvern]

is fun, you win 1 per 7329 match

[edgy junco]

I'm trying to finish C++, and it makes me hate things

[rough wyvern]

every shop have at least 2 bro, i hate my life

and perishable

[edgy junco]

...Especially since I'm down to a lot of jokers that either aren't great to hold onto, or ones that require you to sell/destroy them to do stuff, which basically means lost joker slots

[serene forge]

rocket wtf

[formal shadow]

i lost

: (

[serene forge]

you should be imprisoned for even considering photo in this situation

[rough wyvern]

bro i once on a try for fun in gold stake i took an eternity corrosion, then 2 shops after there was an enternal blue print, i just hate my life

[rough wyvern]

why your name

[serene forge]

eternals aren't a bad thing

[slow iris]

very gay lesbian hornet

[serene forge]

especially not an eternal blueprint

don't freak out over it

[rough wyvern]

a eternal CORROSION yes

[serene forge]

im hornet and very gay and lesbian

[serene forge]

scaling mult

what's the issue

[rough wyvern]

i just take it 'cause it was funny, i knew i will lost in like two more rounds

[rough wyvern]

let me send you the photo

[acoustic kettle]

Erosion is a good +mult

[acoustic kettle]

And?

[potent tree]

chat DO NOT do today's wordle.

[acoustic kettle]

I mean the eternal troub is not ideal

[rough wyvern]

with blue print i could copy scary face and get far away?

[potent tree]

also why did you pick up +mult on plasma

[rough wyvern]

ik, it was the first joker and had the 50 chips

[acoustic kettle]

You can survive one and a half antes without anything on plasma

[zealous zinc]

todays wordle is so fucking funny i just did it

[rough wyvern]

i say i was playing for fun, until i get the scary face, and saw that i could do something

[rough wyvern]

ik

[zealous zinc]

i got it in 3

[potent tree]

it is NOT funny

[zealous zinc]

wdym

[potent tree]

i got it in 4

[zealous zinc]

hahaha loser!!!!!

get desTROYED

[rough wyvern]

i like it in 4

[potent tree]

who's troy? is troy in the room with us?

[zealous zinc]

des and troy

[rough wyvern]

TROY MCCLUER???

[potent tree]

but uh, what is he in balatro

what if every simpsons character became a balatro joker...

homer is just jimbo obviously

[patent sail]

He would drink joka cola instead of beer

[potent tree]

joka cola? joja cola?? stardew reference???

[patent sail]

Or diet cola whatever the double tag one is called i forgor

[potent tree]

yeah it is diet cola

[patent sail]

Joja? Jojo??????? Jojo reference????

[zealous zinc]

nuka cola or joka cola

[acoustic kettle]

Muh first blue deck run

[weak relic]

Negative Tag skip:

[patent sail]

[acoustic kettle]

Yes i got gold stake on plasma before red stake on blue deck

[patent sail]

First ever record of negative skip landing on something useful

[weak relic]

Fr

[rough wyvern]

that's me lmao

[patent sail]

Last time i had it it landed on COLA

[potent tree]

[patent sail]

A joker youre supposed to sell

[potent tree]

absolute cinema

[rough wyvern]

nice, so the next time you'll have 2 negatives

[patent sail]

Selling negative cola doesnt give 2 negative tags? Just the same double tag

And there wasnt a single negative tag in the run after it

[rough wyvern]

every deck is juts white stake XDD

[rough wyvern]

bad luck

[patent sail]

Ikr

[rough wyvern]

one time i just got a negative egg, form a negative tag

i really love negative :)

[patent sail]

Who doesnt

[potent tree]

negative eternal egg:

[patent sail]

Temperance core

[potent tree]

remember temperance does cap...

[rough wyvern]

temperace + perkeo

[potent tree]

if you're doing bullstraps sure

[patent sail]

I had a meme just for this situation, unfortunately on my ipad at home

[potent tree]

we NEED xmult cash based joker

[rough wyvern]

i always get perkeo when i dont have the observatory

[rough wyvern]

nah, so op with bull

[potent tree]

something like "this joker gains x1 mult for every $50 in possession"

[rough wyvern]

idk how to write

[patent sail]

0.1x for every 5 doller 🐈

[potent tree]

same scaling different intervals

[zealous zinc]

ts op

[patent sail]

I guess we share one braincell

[zealous zinc]

polychrome if u just have interest

[rough wyvern]

the only voucher i have locked

[weak relic]

Didn't do some savescum this time

[patent sail]

I was thinking 0.05x, but balatro doesnt really do values like this, smallest is 0.1x

I guess it could just have a bigger interval like azure said, yeah

[weak relic]

Xray challenge

[patent sail]

Oh my god i HATED this

[rough wyvern]

imagine need to save scum

[rough wyvern]

oh, forget what i say

[patent sail]

Took me longer than cruelty honestly

[weak relic]

[patent sail]

I may just be washed but xray vision sucked so much

[rough wyvern]

i complate cruelty in my first try

[weak relic]

And my hangmans are Nonexistent

(I have erosion)

[patent sail]

Complate

We inventing new forms of verbs 😭 son im crine

[rough wyvern]

with my bugged joker

[weak relic]

One one immolate throughout the run

[patent sail]

We crode together

[rough wyvern]

my bad, i'm not english

[potent tree]

why does everyone find it hard to unlock illusion istg

[patent sail]

Nor am i

[rough wyvern]

i'm slow

[patent sail]

Least useful voucher ever honestly

I save scummed to unlock it 😭

[heavy heron]

it doesn’t matter if i’m blocking every planet in the solar system

[rough wyvern]

W

[heavy heron]

the planet you want still doesn’t show up..

[potent tree]

free vampire scaling

[weak relic]

My holograms are Nonexistent

[patent sail]

Garbage for the deck tho

[potent tree]

unsure if you saw my earlier run...they were pretty existent for me 😭

[patent sail]

If there was a joker like vampire that destroyed cards as well id be more likely to take illusion

[rough wyvern]

btw, how i'm suppose to beat golden needle???

[patent sail]

Get lucky i guess idk

I havent yet

[weak relic]

I tried it once, it was hell

So I tried other challenges instead

[rough wyvern]

i tried twice today, i just get until the first boss blind

[patent sail]

That would be insanely op with canio though

[weak relic]

Except cruelty and jokerless since im kinda not prepared for it

[rough wyvern]

i did that until get the jokerless challenge

[weak relic]

Hmm which poker hand should I do in jokerless

5oak?

[shell dagger]

Straight

[patent sail]

Cruelty is lowk not even difficult, at least not as frustrating

I lowk just threw attempts at a wall until i got it

[shell dagger]

Or 4oak

[patent sail]

4oak my beloved

[weak relic]

Okay 4oak it is

Straights are annoying

[rough wyvern]

fr, until get a good joker

[rough wyvern]

fr

[weak relic]

Especially that cerulean bell

[rough wyvern]

double or nothing is hell man

idk how to do it

i just get until anthem 5

[patent sail]

Holographic Madness ante 1 saved

[shell dagger]

scaling +mult scaling +chips beats it easily

[rough wyvern]

oh nice, just reset until i die of age

[shell dagger]

so you don’t rely on the cards themselves

[weak relic]

First try

[rough wyvern]

i try that

[weak relic]

Yes, that's a natural negative card sharp

[rough wyvern]

lucky man

[patent sail]

Just get jokers that give scoring without cards but based on hand or just scale from other things, i beat it that way

[weak relic]

What I did was to conserve the face cards

[rough wyvern]

i just try that like 4 times, cause i got 0 usefull jokers and i stop playing XD

[weak relic]

And play pairs with whatever number cards. Doesn't matter if they're debuffed or not

[patent sail]

I dont remember how i beat it, i think i did some flushes or pairs build

[rough wyvern]

yeah, a madnness or something like that would be usefull, and using planet card, but i get 0 usefull jokers

[patent sail]

Okay but what is the most fun challenge to you? I think fragile or mad world

[rough wyvern]

fun? idk man, i think golden needle

[weak relic]

5 card draw or blast off

[zealous zinc]

ok so far heres my thoughts on new black deck with docs changes + no blue stake:

overall i think it does make the deck harder, but only slightly. To me the main two things that will kill you is not finding a good scoring joker early on (but i think i suck with econ management so idk if this is a real problem) and the water boss blind

[patent sail]

Thats blast off 😭

[patent sail]

Blast off i kinda suffered with, 5 card draw was fairly fun, yeah

[zealous zinc]

this is after me testing like 7-10 runs

[rough wyvern]

i just get very lucky XDDD

this was also funny, the tax challenge, i got on my final hand -22 XDD

[weak relic]

Real

[gloomy vigil]

I should unlock ghost

bazinga

[weak relic]

Also you're a brave man for utilizing lucky cat in this challenge

Money proc is deadly asf

[rough wyvern]

i mean, first i saw all d6, and dont get it, then lucky cat and the blood, the joker that give you mult per heart card

[rough wyvern]

nah, i just spend all the money in the shop, and then pray to my lucky card to activate

and pray more to not get the +20 money on my not winning hand

[weak relic]

So you were actually one shotting blinds? Nvm

[rough wyvern]

yep

i mean, no until like 3 rounds more, that i trim a little bit better my deck

and then yep, one shooting blinds and praying to get the lucky card activate

[rough wyvern]

and i just get the dice on the anthem 8 XDDD

[weak relic]

Inflation was kinda challenging till I won with this yeeyee build

[patent sail]

Swashbucker op on that challenge, right?

[weak relic]

Yeah

[rough wyvern]

on my last shop btw

[patent sail]

I forgot if it increases prices of everything or just shop

[pliant timber]

i really fucking hate the plant so suck

[weak relic]

Every card purchase, yes

[patent sail]

[rough wyvern]

W

[patent sail]

Absolute plantima

[rough wyvern]

i didnt need to use the lucky cat to one shoot him XDDD

[pliant timber]

every time i get the photochad jomer

the plant will ruin it

[weak relic]

Lol

[rough wyvern]

it happends

[weak relic]

[pliant timber]

yeah eternal photochad 😭😭😭😭😭

[rough wyvern]

ouchy

[rough wyvern]

fake, fake photo

that is photoshop

[weak relic]

Okay

[patent sail]

We should collectively beat the plant to death with rocks i think

[gloomy vigil]

what will you do when you get the boss that makes you sell joekers

[rough wyvern]

can i beat mysefl?

[weak relic]

Typecast bans verdant

[patent sail]

Can you do what?

[rough wyvern]

sell the joker

[rough wyvern]

i think so

[gloomy vigil]

they are all eternal

[rough wyvern]

oh you mean on that challenge

[patent sail]

What does this mean chat

[potent tree]

technically if you had all consumables on typecast would it be equivalent to jokerless once they expired

consumable jokers my bad

[patent sail]

What happens when eternal consumable joker expires tho? They are normally incompatible with eternal i think

[rough wyvern]

can it happen?

[patent sail]

Normally no, they cant appear with eternal sticker, but i wonder what would happen if they did

[rough wyvern]

ur pc will crash

[acoustic kettle]

Hmm

[patent sail]

Eternal mr bones

[rough wyvern]

eternal invisible

[acoustic kettle]

Bones can't be eternal

Same thing with invis

[rough wyvern]

if i see you, i bet mine is 😉

[patent sail]

Yeah but like

I wonder what would happen if it could

[acoustic kettle]

I guess it is possible on typecast

[icy hollow]

Another legendary done

[rough wyvern]

ur not girl, rigth?

[acoustic kettle]

What

[patent sail]

What

[acoustic kettle]

?

[rough wyvern]

my joke, i hope ur guy

[patent sail]

[acoustic kettle]

😭

[rough wyvern]

i would be more funny

[patent sail]

He made a statement so ass even the dog left

[rough wyvern]

W

idk man, i'm doing a homework

and watching a balatro university video

[acoustic kettle]

So out of nowhere

[patent sail]

🐈🎊🎉

Thats what im sayin

[gloomy vigil]

I need to learn to deckfix

I want to have like a single suit

[rough wyvern]

inmolate

and pray for death or hang man

[gloomy vigil]

I won a pretty stupid run like that I think

I got like bazillion of those cards that make 3 cards clubs

[icy hollow]

yo what.

i restarted after ante 8 to do another run

and it shows no gold sticker on yorick

[rough wyvern]

lucky man

[glossy forge]

🤍

I believe in the speculative Oops

[unreal topaz]

at least you can still get yorick from a soul card

thats always fun

[icy hollow]

no

just trying to do c++ again

i've lost 3 runs so far from stickers not saving

annoying asf

[unreal topaz]

oh damn

[icy hollow]

lost canio and yorickstickers

[unreal topaz]

yea seems annoying

[rough wyvern]

i hate this game

[unreal topaz]

popcorn sticker is also great

[rough wyvern]

4 perishable

[unreal topaz]

would be at least

[icy hollow]

yea. but i didnt get it

[unreal topaz]

yea

that's unlucky

[stark karma]

every mod needs a blueprint knockoff, what do we think?

I'll prob dial the art back a bit hahaha

[icy hollow]

acutally i tihnk only 2 runs didnt save

but 11 stickers lost. 2 of which were legendaries

but like its 2 runs gone out of 9

[zealous zinc]

i love the art

[stark karma]

thanks hahaha

[zealous zinc]

effect is good too

although, i bet another mod has done a similar effect

[stark karma]

probably!

I don't care

[zealous zinc]

(ofc, dont let other mods stop you)

ye

the effect itself is very clear and simple to understand

[glossy forge]

Does Satellite go in favor of 8-ball

It's at +7

[zealous zinc]

so i think its overall super solid like 9/10 modded joker it feels like a real joker in everything except vanilla balancing

[zealous zinc]

i say no

[twin lantern]

The description is wrong, it should be X and Y

[stark karma]

you think it isn't very balanced?

[stark karma]

thanks!

[zealous zinc]

like vanilla balance no

like, i call it a chocolate joker

[twin lantern]

Why balance over huals around vanilla when the point is to make a non vanilla experience

[zealous zinc]

its not quite something that would be added to vanilla but its basically vanilla

[zealous zinc]

exactly

dont worry about vanilla balancing]

[stark karma]

I am trying to make a somwhat vanilla experience lol

[twin lantern]

Oh

[stark karma]

the thing I want is new feeling stuff

but not anything too crazy

[twin lantern]

Okay okay

[zealous zinc]

dw, your good

[twin lantern]

I misinterpreted

[zealous zinc]

like agian the art especially pulls me in it feels like a joker art that would be in the base game

its super good

[twin lantern]

I haven't played balatro once sense i got rimworld lmao

How yall been

[stark karma]

sick

[zealous zinc]

good, and similar

[stark karma]

doin good

[zealous zinc]

i havent played vanilla balatro in a while

i play modded occasionally with friends

[twin lantern]

I got to 9 in a row on gold stake

So i never got my tenner

[zealous zinc]

get it now!

btw

since we got new ppl in chat from before

[twin lantern]

Im probably rusty asf

[zealous zinc]

this is why i started up vanilla today

doc made a video talking about balatro balancing and how we can push it away from pairs

this was his suggestion

what do we think

[twin lantern]

Id have to play it

[zealous zinc]

well

lucky for you

[twin lantern]

Someone make the balatro university video a mod

[zealous zinc]

i made a deck that applies this change to black deck

(assumign blue stake is reworked btw)

so its 4 discards regardless of white or gold

[twin lantern]

Oo gotcha

[zealous zinc]

like obviously if ur doing changes to fix pair lobotomy blue stake is part of that change

[zealous zinc]

i really want doc to try it and see lwk or really any good gold stake player

like its really interesting: econwise, theres actually very little difference

if you one shot the blinds early you still get 2 dollars like u would before this change

[twin lantern]

Ive been watching dogs in my colony turn to alcoholism after a heat stroke induced heart attack my brain is completely brain rotted with rimworld stuff

[zealous zinc]

i should play rimworld

[twin lantern]

Ill have to "grind" balatro again

Not rlly grinding bc i like gold stake the most

[zealous zinc]

this seems bad at first but being able to have 4 discards really really helps

i got to ante 6 but died to the water

[twin lantern]

Discards are busted in balatro

[zealous zinc]

well this is happening

judgement blessed me

[maiden horizon]

They need to buff crazy joker man

[zealous zinc]

y?

[gloomy vigil]

is the handsome man on the joekers called jimbo

[maiden horizon]

+12 mult for a straight barely does anything

[gloomy vigil]

why are they looking at me like that

[zealous zinc]

i mean

its basically insta win ante 1 and 2 if u have a straight in hand

[zealous zinc]

mogging you

[maiden horizon]

Raised fist and halfsies give 20

[zealous zinc]

it is no coincidence that they are harder to play with straights

[twin lantern]

+12 mult is essentially ×4 on level 1 hand its enough to carry you to ante 3

[maiden horizon]

You can get more out of other commons

[zealous zinc]

bro 😭

[twin lantern]

Dono

[zealous zinc]

your argument

is

[maiden horizon]

Commons that Encourage pair builds

[twin lantern]

No you dont, lol

[zealous zinc]

"other common give more mult"

[latent egret]

for straights ?

which one does

more

[twin lantern]

Max hand money in antes 1 and 2 is run defining

[maiden horizon]

Why would i play straight if most of the Jokers in the shop incourages pairs

[twin lantern]

Bc you dont always get them

Its a rouge like

[zealous zinc]

its not jokers that just encourage pairs btw

its like

the whole design of the game

encourgaing pairs

[twin lantern]

If you're rolling for specific jokers in the early game you're gonna lose

[zealous zinc]

the fact that rn you have 2 discards on high stakes

that you need to go pairs

[maiden horizon]

I'm just saying that crazy joker is bad

[zealous zinc]

it isnt

its very good at its purpose

[zealous zinc]

its the fact that scaling +mult rn is easier to scale with pairs

[twin lantern]

"This joker isnt the best possible joker therefore its shit" ahh argument

[zealous zinc]

its not just that pairs have good jokers its that pairs have the most access to jokers because most jokers work with pairs and the game does little to prevent you from playing them

[twin lantern]

^

[zealous zinc]

which is exactly why i brought this up

[maiden horizon]

Not every joker needs to be equal im just saying that crazy is relatively weak

[zealous zinc]

it isnt

[twin lantern]

Crazy joker enables early game straight builds almost by itself

[zealous zinc]

by this metric half joker is weak

which it is, later on, just like crazy

flat mult is never long term

and all the flat mult jokers do their job, which is provide early scoring

[twin lantern]

But it isnt, crazy joker scores more than half joker bc straights get so many chips

Assuming its ante 1 or 2

[zealous zinc]

you dont play crazy joker to go for a straight build per say but you take it as something that enables you to survive early blinds

[twin lantern]

^

[maiden horizon]

Well yeah bro

[zealous zinc]

yea you also have to factor this in

mult isnt everything

100*1 is less than 20*20

[twin lantern]

Chips are quite literally half your score

[maiden horizon]

Mult is important

[zealous zinc]

chips >>> mult

you need chips or you die

from some source

[twin lantern]

Chips in the early game are a commodity

[zealous zinc]

straights have huge chip scaling and already give tons of chips on their own

[maiden horizon]

Im just saying crazy joker is bad

[twin lantern]

It isnt bad

[maiden horizon]

Compared to other hand type commons

[zealous zinc]

and im just saying its not bad

[zealous zinc]

its not bad compared to them

[twin lantern]

Pairs dont even have a +mult joker exclusive to them

[maiden horizon]

Mas joker is on +10

[twin lantern]

<@&1133519078540185692> mod .

[zealous zinc]

mas joker?

[maiden horizon]

You can play 2 two pairs

[zealous zinc]

mad

[zealous zinc]

that give less chips than straights

[twin lantern]

Ty

[zealous zinc]

so it balances itself out

[maiden horizon]

Crazy joker is bad at making you survive blinds

[twin lantern]

-$1

No

Youre just bad

[maiden horizon]

Bruh

[zealous zinc]

it isnt

you can keep putting up strawmans but its just false

straights are hard to hit but its also unlikely you hit 0 with 4 hands and even 2 discards

[twin lantern]

If you cant utilize a joker that isnt showman its a skill issue, jokers dont exist in a vacuum and runs are seed dependent, even with the heavy pair meta pairs cannot win every run

[zealous zinc]

well

[lunar zealot]

i think of all the page 1 jokers zany and wily are just bad

[zealous zinc]

idk about that

i think absolutely pairs can win every run which is the problem

[gloomy vigil]

is pair meta ?

[twin lantern]

Yes

[zealous zinc]

yes

[lunar zealot]

In the sense that it's the most consistent strategy

[gloomy vigil]

can someoneexplain to me how themeta works in this game

I would expect something like two pair or flush to be meta

[lunar zealot]

the best strategy is up for debate but i would say pairs at least in my opinion

[lunar zealot]

oh no worries i got this

[gloomy vigil]

I love 2 pair

but thats abut it

[twin lantern]

Ironically flushes are the closest thing to a noob trap the game has

[zealous zinc]

2 pair is good

[twin lantern]

2 pair my beloved

[lunar zealot]

generally, blue stake's (current, as of patch 1.0.1f) effect of -1 discard heavily discourages playing 5-card hands due to inconsistency in being able to draw them; flush in particular gets significantly more flak due to it not providing nearly as much scaling via planets or consistent joker scaling like straights and saturn/runner, to compensate for its being a 5 card hand
in this sense the evolution of the meta has largely favored pairs due to their generally being easy to draw, easy to make use of in-hand effects such as golds and especially blue seals, and more accessible synergies with jokers such as hologram (more effectively able to scale hologram via bloating the deck if the hand played is largely unaffected by deck size hampering easiness to draw), blackboard (one can play a pair and unscored hearts/diamonds in order to always proc it) and scaling +mult jokers such as green joker (discarding for pairs is redundant)
tl;dr pair good

[stiff ore]

do i take it?

[twin lantern]

No

[lunar zealot]

why not

It's white stake

treat yourself

[icy hollow]

Goofy start lol. Both invis on 2/2 too

[stiff ore]

fair enough lol

riugth now its turned into a high card deck xD

[twin lantern]

Sell one you won't

[gloomy vigil]

2 pair is truly the lightning of this game

peak

[icy hollow]

Imma sell both

For $8 lol

[stiff ore]

oh boy

this should be interesting

[twin lantern]

My back hurts

Imma go to bed

[gloomy vigil]

If am not confident in my ability to one shot that boss I just skip both blinds lmfao

[stiff ore]

high card is now even beating out 5 of a kind xD

[torpid bridge]

Thanks mrbones

[gloomy vigil]

bus

[torpid bridge]

Buss suck ass

Real mvp is stunman and mr bones

[gloomy vigil]

I dont have a single cool deck unlocked

I gotta grind

ghost and plasma will be mine

[stiff ore]

maybe now i can go for 5 of a kind, with 14 aces in my deck lol

[torpid bridge]

Why not flush 5?

[stiff ore]

i think i might lol

[torpid bridge]

A single suit changer and u can play flish 5 consistently

[graceful tangle]

Guys what do I drop here for cavendish? Can someone do quick maths

[idle haven]

I haven't played balatro in a week and I feel amazing

[torpid bridge]

You dont

[idle haven]

That's the neat part

[gloomy vigil]

why ould you cavendish here

[graceful tangle]

Idk

[idle haven]

Hello ride the bus hater

[graceful tangle]

Hahaha

[torpid bridge]

If you drop sock you would lose x2 on each photo

[idle haven]

I also hate ride the bus

[torpid bridge]

Meaning u lose x8 on 3 photos

[graceful tangle]

Nevermind then

[torpid bridge]

If u drop photo

U lose x 16

[stiff ore]

flush 5 is still better but not by much xD

[torpid bridge]

Upgrade it and u see the difference

[zealous zinc]

black deck, but i implemented doc spectreds changes

[stiff ore]

oh i know i just find it funny that by the time i can play 5 of a kinds, my high card is already almost as strong xD

[gloomy vigil]

2 hand kinda nasty

[idle haven]

Black deck but make it better

[gloomy vigil]

will the game get any more changes ?

[zealous zinc]

btw his changes are for ALL decks

[gloomy vigil]

or are we done

[zealous zinc]

theres an update coming

we dont know much about what will chnage

[gloomy vigil]

show all

please

[idle haven]

I actually heard a leak in the new update

They're changing 8ball to a 1 in 2 chance instead of 1 in 4

[zealous zinc]

the changes are really simple, he basically suggested that instead of a default 4 hands and 3 discards for all decks, its 3 hands and 4 discards,

and also, because u have less hands, you get 2 dollars per hand unused

this is to make other hand types other than pair more appealing

[gloomy vigil]

can we just up the score for harder to get hands

[zealous zinc]

one thing that is virtually guaranteed is that blue stake will not be -1 discard

[gloomy vigil]

its so easy to outscale two pair

[idle haven]

Fuck pairs

[zealous zinc]

perhaps

[idle haven]

All my homies hate pairs

[gloomy vigil]

Imo stuff like flush or straight should start from level 2 or even 3

[zealous zinc]

staty?

[zealous zinc]

nah

too op then

straights are already really good

the main thing holding straights back is blue stake

[gloomy vigil]

moar discard

[gloomy vigil]

I have the worst solution ever

add card counting to the game

the deck gives the cards in a certain order everytime

[zealous zinc]

balala but the dealer is in on it

[stiff ore]

just barely lol

[gloomy vigil]

would it be viable to

take the double chance joker with the banana

[stiff ore]

aaand thats my death lol

[gloomy vigil]

to kill bana faster

so you get cav earlier

[gloomy vigil]

how do you see what the joeker does

without hovering over it

[stiff ore]

mod JokerDisplay

i also recommend the handy mod

lets you remap damn near everything

[gloomy vigil]

remap keybinds ?

I play with just the mouse

[gloomy vigil]

am a default settings type fella

I even play on gamespeed 1

[stiff ore]

damn

i pplay on 16X speed

no sorry 8X

[gloomy vigil]

I dont see a reason to rush

I play this game to relax

[zealous zinc]

rushing kills me every time

[gloomy vigil]

its fun to see the score slowly tick

[stiff ore]

i remapped restart run to my middlemouse so i can click and instantly start a new run

play and discard are my thumb buttons so i never need to do anything but click the cards

and the blinds lol

[gloomy vigil]

I just run mouse

no need for keyboard

[stiff ore]

i just enjoy the quality of life improvements

[balmy gulch]

How does flowerpot work with smeared

[gloomy vigil]

money run

[spiral cairn]

Day 67 of
balatro? more like balls

[gloomy vigil]

wrong screenshot

🤑

changed the parking thing for business card aswell

I lost

probably my stupidest death

forgot to use discards to get the 15 mult

[glossy forge]

It is customary to scale my Red Card to the funny number

[copper horizon]

bro is the golden man

[rough wyvern]

MI FIRST GOLD STAKEEE

[copper horizon]

goood now just the left decks

[rough wyvern]

all of them

[copper horizon]

yep im doing all in gold but in clas for now 2 in gold steak

[rough wyvern]

nice

96 cards

[copper horizon]

yes now im in clas try with the plasma deck

[copper horizon]

god

[rough wyvern]

it was my fisrt gold stacke btw (and the only one more than blue stake)

is my fav deck

[copper horizon]

my favorite is the tarot or the spectral

[copper horizon]

my first was the yellow then the red ect..

i love the yellow its lit good economy

now i will try to get in class the gold one

of plasma

[vast grove]

dude ive gotten 4 soul cards in 3 different runs what are the chances

[balmy gulch]

I think kings should trigger fibonacci tbh

Counting upwards Jacks are 11, queens 12, kings would be 13 which is a fib number

[lunar zealot]

i think

i think people aren't good at this game

why would you even buy pareidolia here

it does nothing

less than nothing actually

the only saving grace is this person blamed themself and not the game

[rough wyvern]

maybe think he will have good luck?

[lunar zealot]

good luck for what

[torpid bridge]

He doesn't play any score on card jokers

That doesnt matter

[gloomy vigil]

is straight flush a royal flush

[quartz ember]

no

a royal flush is a straight flush

[gloomy vigil]

I got a queen joker 10 9 8

no king

[quartz ember]

royal flush consists of consecutive cards from ace to 10

of the same suit

[gloomy vigil]

thanks

[deft sandal]

One fat cat

[copper horizon]

man runer 500 chips in plasma lol

[digital pewter]

chicot, i never doubted you for even a second.

now, could i probably still live if i just sold him for the stencil?

probably

but it's not about the score

it's about sending a message

[copper horizon]

idk if its a lot for runner

[quartz ember]

I mean you dont need to sell him

[digital pewter]

that sure sounds like a lot

[digital pewter]

oh yeah i'm not gonna

[copper horizon]

he nieed for the mult but idk

[torpid bridge]

I got a bigger one

[copper horizon]

lol

[copper horizon]

?

[deft sandal]

catching up :)

[still geyser]

question if i use the ankh will it copy randomly like normal or will it copy the madness

[digital pewter]

yippee

[signal frigate]

Low chance but it can Copy the Madness

[digital pewter]

easy zodiac orange stake

[still geyser]

mmmm

[deft sandal]

Chicot the goat

[signal frigate]

Though it'll still get murdered by the other Madness

[digital pewter]

only painted, plasma, and erraric deck left to orange stake

[signal frigate]

They'll kill each other

[digital pewter]

then it's onto the golds

[sullen mica]

i got two brainstorms, observatory and just got perkeo on ante 10. Is it even possible to go for a naneinf or nah

im doing sum goofy pair run with brainstorms copying burglar

[deft sandal]

two brainstorm is not enough i think

Maybe find one more copy joker and you might have a chance

[sullen mica]

i mean my high score is e15 i think

thats probably easy to beat w this setup, yeah?

[still geyser]

why are there 3 homeless men in my joker slot 😢

and one crazy lad too

[sullen mica]

why bro playing on an old tv

[lost vault]

gay homeless men

[still geyser]

🤔

[still geyser]

is this true?

[lost vault]

thats the default crt filter

[sullen mica]

the lines

oh

i thought its modded

[deft sandal]

with perkeo and observatory, e15 is definitely reachable

[weak relic]

Dream team (ignore The Order)

[weak relic]

I just wanted to get smth from the wraith but it gave me a slacker instead

[deft sandal]

if you to want naneinf with that setup, look at this

[tranquil steppe]

I think it’s time for a mega skippideedooda hand

[manic vault]

what should i buy and what should i sell

[sullen mica]

lmao so in short no

[deft sandal]

nothing

[sullen mica]

misprint probably

[deft sandal]

grimbo and ride the bus isn't that good tbh

slow scaling

[sullen mica]

i mean seltzer is kinda useless early

[deft sandal]

maybe find a better joker then sell the seltzer

[manic vault]

ok thanks

which jokers are better

[acoustic kettle]

What ante

Also what deck really

[manic vault]

blue deck ante 6

doesn't matter tho just passed that

[acoustic kettle]

Well bus and green are great picks

Depending on what you play it is better than seltzer

[still geyser]

really fun run lol

[latent egret]

??

how can you say that

they are run defining

and the most reliable way to beat gs

[still geyser]

they might be rage baiting

lol

when people spread misinformation online

[latent egret]

better hope so

[still geyser]

cuz if they actually mean it i dont think they play the game at all 😭

[deft sandal]

isn't that good doesn't mean it is not good

Just not as good as other jokers

it pains me to say this but red card is a better scaling joker then those

[twin rune]

The best scaling +mult joker in the game is better than those yes, not saying much

[royal bobcat]

Unless it's yorick or canio there's nothing I'd want more than runner or rtb

I guess i'd like pants over rtb

Sure

[glossy forge]

Red Card my beloved

I prefer red card more than grimbo, rtb, nova

[still geyser]

red card is better than both of them but green & bus is also a good scaling joker at the start?

[deft sandal]

x95.75 lucky cat

[royal bobcat]

It's funny how the playerbase's opinions change based on what doc says

The shifts in zeitgeists are always interesting

[deft sandal]

depends, if you on like abandoned deck, bus is 100% the best scaling in early game

[still geyser]

yes because hes really experienced at balatro!

[deft sandal]

he's the expert

[twin rune]

It is 9 times out of 10 astoundingly easy to not score face cards without abandoned deck even

[acoustic kettle]

Bus is the best scaling in any deck

[deft sandal]

fuck no

[acoustic kettle]

[deft sandal]

My beloved bootstraps

[royal bobcat]

Everyone except a few players here shat on red card and they would NOT listen until doc made the red card video

[still geyser]

erratic deck with a bajillion face cards:

[frank grove]

red card has been good for like a really long time

[viral bay]

Anyone tried jokers only and none jokers only jokers only was pretty difficult but I dont think none jokers only is even possible

[acoustic kettle]

I'm holding r

[twin rune]

Yeah a really exceptionally terrible erratic deck is the one scenario I can envision where bus is actually hard to avoid resetting and even then you keep your discards with it

[still geyser]

what is this supposed to mean lol

[deft sandal]

reset the run

[frank grove]

if you hold r in a run it make a new run on the same deck and stake

but new seed

unless its seeded

[lost hamlet]

not selling cola due to baseball card feels so weird

[still geyser]

ohhhhhhhhhh i did not know that

[deft sandal]

Since I couldn't beat this ante, I scaled the cat as big as I can

[still geyser]

hang the king

[signal frigate]

I watched as my friend who didn't know what that did got fooled into doing it in the middle of a good run

[frank grove]

😭

[viral bay]

Balatro brings my credit card debt into the game aswell

[still geyser]

i guess your friend was a

[deft sandal]

from 3Oak pivoted into flush 5 idol build

[signal frigate]

Someone actually made a mod that made you pay to gamble

[deft sandal]

honorable mention (100.25x Lucky Cat)

[viral bay]

AMAZING NOW ALING SIDE MY DEBT I CAN BRING MY ADICTION TO

How wounderful

Next up my alcoholism is coming to balatro

[signal frigate]

https://youtu.be/5A7p8cQjQtg?si=6kBsAgBdqhan8WOV

A YouTube video of it to anyone interested

[deft sandal]

i'm one stake away from C+

[signal frigate]

Should be easy because that deck is great

[deft sandal]

yeah

[viral bay]

What's you'll favriot card bassed of just looks mines the maxwell king

[signal frigate]

A playing Card?

You talking about the Collab skins?

[viral bay]

I made just looks

Yess

Don't starve together

[signal frigate]

Because I might be biased towards the Slay the Spire cards

And Stardew Valley

[viral bay]

I like stardew

Never played slay the spire

[frank grove]

I havent used many of the collab skins but the stardew ones are really clean

[signal frigate]

I'm coming back to it after Terraria

[deft sandal]

I'm using Among Us for Hearts lmao

[signal frigate]

Supremely addicting, just like Balatro

It's a roguelike card game where the goal is to either survive or "Number go big", this is one of my number go big runs.

[viral bay]

I tried to beat the game but it was nodded so there's no jokers BAD IDEA

[signal frigate]

"Final Boss" btw

[deft sandal]

Rogue Lite games are so addicting idk why

[signal frigate]

It's the roguelike aspect

And most of them go with the philosophy of destroying the game

How high can you make the funny number go?

The run towards that number imo is what makes it addictingly satisfying

Seeing your build go from it's weakest to suddenly the strongest

[manic vault]

rip im dying here on the last hand to ante 8

[signal frigate]

How in the hell did you make it to Ante 7 with that setup?

Oh, it's White Stake

That explains it.

[manic vault]

yea

[deft sandal]

i dont even know what to do with this run

[signal frigate]

I think that Shoot the moon could work

It's painted, it's perfect for it

[deft sandal]

i was think how is the boss blind 35000 in ante 7, then I realise it is the Needle

[signal frigate]

It's also white stake, it'd be about a hundred thousand

If it's Gold

I do like that sometimes, bosses throw a bone at you

The Needle's score requirement is lower than big and small blinds

[deft sandal]

that might work since i got a steel king in my deck

+Mult and xMult

[signal frigate]

I think you should look into a steel queen instead

[manic vault]

how much should i refresh the shop once i have enough money to keep getting 5 interest