🕹・game-discussion

[manic zealot]

now you just need a retrigger and you're cookin

[placid ridge]

just missing splash

[hard mantle]

i guess im building 7's

cause i keep getting 7 pairs and 7 full houses

[serene forge]

good

i dont get it

[hard mantle]

got a lot of +10 mult

and a very strong early game pair build

knowing me i lose anyway but

[serene forge]

theres no scaling mult

[hard mantle]

theres scaling chips

oh hey!

problem solved

[ancient gyro]

litmus test

[hard mantle]

aaaaaaa

forgot to level my fucking planets

[ancient gyro]

what

[manic zealot]

blackboard could be harder here because of the bigger hand size but you do have tarots from vagabond

[ancient gyro]

you shouldn't have needed them

[neon mural]

I sell mime for BP here yeah?

[manic zealot]

yes

[hard mantle]

flint kicked my ass, idk what to tell you

[serene forge]

yes

[serene forge]

hiker is bottom of the barrel but sure

[ancient gyro]

this was my deck and planets at endgame btw

[serene forge]

its the flint

planets literally would not have helped

what ante was this

[manic zealot]

kinda hilarious booster pack first shop joker

[hard mantle]

i forgor

[ancient gyro]

goldfish moment

[hard mantle]

i have severe memory issues :3

im 1000% going to have dementia someday

[ancient gyro]

yeah

go to university kids

[hard mantle]

i am in college

[ancient gyro]

community college don't count

[tranquil steppe]

Boom roasted supplecheeks

[hard mantle]

well excuuuuuuuse me for not having anybody to pay for uni

[ancient gyro]

that's practically entry level gen ed course examination

how does your state universities disperse financial aid via scholarships and grants

[hard mantle]

i think you misunderstand something

even if i maxxed out how much money i was allowed to take out in loans

i couldnt pay for uni

[neon mural]

o7 getting closer to the unseeded naneinf with every run

[ancient gyro]

i didnt mention loans though

oh well

[hard mantle]

i dont really

qualify for many if any

[ancient gyro]

rip

[viscid stone]

having a good run
(got loads of steel cards and aces)

[hard mantle]

my plans are literally just to graduate with a degree in anthropology (or humanities) and get a position working for either the state government or a similar field

[ancient gyro]

consider the state government for financial purposes and insurance benefits

or if you wanna retire early depending on the occupation

[hard mantle]

the only reason its not the guaranteed choice is because my ass smokes weed

and even tho i live in a legal state

government can be testy at times

[ancient gyro]

oh

@pale wolf

[pale wolf]

hello

[tacit quail]

+1 (131/150) mad joker gold stickered (Useless As Fuck)

[ancient gyro]

what are the plans for 1.4.5

[tacit quail]

red cards the goat

[pale wolf]

not sure, probably gonna be pretty busy with work stuff but I'll have to see what actually is in the update to know if I'll start a new world or not

[steady mauve]

what should I sell here (I have x9 on Yoric and x6 on Canio)

[ancient gyro]

dungeon is getting an aesthetic overhaul

im thinking single player speed run for me

to check out the changes

[midnight talon]

gros michel for what

[tranquil steppe]

Omg and on painted too wow. What a godly run with Lord Canio and our boiiiiiii Yorick

[pearl moss]

Would a collection assistant would ruin competitionist? (As in a feature that could increase the chance to enouncter a non sticker joker, the feature is optional)

[steady mauve]

I got Chicot :(

[hard mantle]

goooooooooood im getting such shit rng

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[hard mantle]

bloodstone hates you

I AM FUCKING LIVID

[visual turtle]

ooh, i got both of them

[viscid stone]

got a new high score on rounds and best hand

[pearl moss]

You're cook

[pearl moss]

Could have gone with 2 new gold sticker while the rest is something you need like mult+/X

[peak plinth]

Just wanted to say how much i appreciate i start like this, thank you balatro

[tacit quail]

elusive 9 dollar satellite

[viscid stone]

I should probably invest in the mod everyone uses to get those nifty indicators

[sudden river]

spaceman didn't go off for two whole rounds with nacho tong

dude is dead

[tacit quail]

just played face cards with rtb and didnt lose it because it was the mouth and it was a non scoring hand

peak

[pearl moss]

Spaceman, never gamble with it

[wintry ice]

he may have ran out of oxygen

[sudden river]

I also got absolutely bankrupted by the tooth so I couldn't afford planets, and mercury wasn't showing up anyway

[tepid skiff]

yellow deck or ghost deck for gold stake winstreak

[wintry ice]

yellow

[sudden river]

yellow deck is easier, ghost deck is funner (after econ is sorted)

[peak plinth]

Chip joker plus x mult joker too?! Balatro, you are treating me to a lovely run

[placid ridge]

So, I have Ride the Bus, Shortcut, and Four Fingers... The King is not counted, right? This is a safe straight to play?
I do not have Splash.

[formal shadow]

what should i sell for photograph? if i should even grab it here

[serene forge]

balatrodle in 4

[visual turtle]

haven't
scaled it 💔

I've been

broke like the last 2 antes

[serene forge]

skill issue

you have rough gem and $22 how are you broke

[wintry ice]

this looks nice

[serene forge]

here win

[wintry ice]

lol????

[visual turtle]

broke the last two antes

now im not broke

[hard mantle]

3oak build going well

[waxen dragon]

aye. anyone know where I can go to get help with a crash?

[wintry ice]

probably #⚙・modding-support

[covert basin]

chat i need helpful tips

i keep losing

[wintry ice]

watch dr spectred's videos

[visual turtle]

omg I have
Four 7 of clubs

now if I can play all 4 of them

[covert basin]

yes sir

[visual turtle]

Well actually it's 5

also help

[winged lake]

Guys, we did it

[visual turtle]

high card is level 10

[winged lake]

I officially hit 24 hours
WITHOUT WINNING A SINGLE GAME

[olive basin]

bloodstone loves me back

[winged lake]

HOW DO YOU PLAY THIS

[olive basin]

stake and deck?

[visual turtle]

Duct tape jokers

[olive basin]

also not trying to be rude but have you taken the time just to think what caused me to lose? What was I lacking? @winged lake

[formal shadow]

is this one of the most builds ever?

[olive basin]

then thinking how can I improve? what can I do better?

[formal shadow]

mb

is this one of the most Builds ever

[visual turtle]

Oops all gold cards

[pearl moss]

Shouldn't be the order is Midas then vampire?

[low meteor]

bro has to be on his knees for hanging chad and baron

[visual turtle]

or well none since vampire
kills them off

[native cape]

not bad jokers

[olive basin]

apply than suck

[formal shadow]

ok so with midas and vamp

i should prob play full houses right

and not give af about repeating my gold cards w mime

[low meteor]

that is what she said my friend

[pearl moss]

Ye this

[pearl moss]

Not bad they say

[olive basin]

did you pray to jesus today? read the bible?

[pearl moss]

This is like guaranteed win as long no plant shows up

[formal shadow]

bp.....

bs**

wait

[low meteor]

sorry

[formal shadow]

is it time to toss smily

or mime

[pearl moss]

Replace the smiley face

[low meteor]

toss mime and get on yo knees for hanging chad

[visual turtle]

I wish i had splash

[olive basin]

i'm jk lol

[formal shadow]

ngl but do i need smiley face tho

[low meteor]

ye

[pearl moss]

At late game, your planet should be able to do more mult than smiley face

Plus

With brainstorm that is an additional vampire which is another source for Xmult

You could also swap vampire with mime for extra gold generation

[native cape]

cant find a blueprint for the life of me D;

[formal shadow]

uhm

[scenic nebula]

Sell happy face for BP?

[visual turtle]

Guessing game!!!!

[scenic nebula]

Point at photo?

[pearl moss]

Yeah bp on photo

[formal shadow]

HOLY

[pearl moss]

You're bone

[formal shadow]

GREEN BEAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pearl moss]

So close

[winged lake]

Red and first difficulty, I can't play any other difficulty since I haven't won anything yet

[ancient gyro]

math doesn't check out

[formal shadow]

uhm

blueprint!

what are you doing here!

i mean i gotta sell

[visual turtle]

oh i got hit the road from the rare tag 💔

[formal shadow]

mime right

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[winged lake]

Yeah I just dunno how to make a strategy, it all still feels so random even though I know it's not as random as it seems to me

[formal shadow]

HANGING CHAD!!!!

WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE!!!!!!!!!

[olive basin]

keep on playing

[pearl moss]

Your luck is disgusting

[formal shadow]

sell midas now??? vampire is at 3.5

im so confused bro

wtf

why am i getting so lucky LOL

[ancient gyro]

no

[visual turtle]

Nvm resetting run
There's no hope already

[formal shadow]

do i grab hanging?

at all

[ancient gyro]

no

[formal shadow]

y not

[sullen apex]

Hi @smoky merlin

[ancient gyro]

for the purpose of your high risk scoring position you put yourself into

[smoky merlin]

hi murph

[sullen apex]

Someone was trying to ping me.

You know what to do

[ancient gyro]

hi @sullen apex

[sullen apex]

👋

[visual turtle]

the game keeps giving jokers I don't want to use 💔

[ancient gyro]

i am not ableist, i give jokers a chance

[rigid glen]

Is there plans or already a way to sync iOS balatro with steam balatro

[pearl moss]

Shoot the queen with metal card, which would shoot the queen first then metal or would it be alternate trigger as in queen then metal queen

Like total all queen then metal happens

Or would it be first queen trigger then metal on that first queen

Rinse repeat

[ancient gyro]

what

[visual turtle]

ok like some offense but i keep getting the jokers that want me to play a certain hand to get chips/mult
and im like
"I can't play 3 of a kind" 😭

with only 2 discards

[rough wyvern]

god hates me

[ancient gyro]

card scoring enhancements trigger first (steel) before card scoring from jokers (stm)

so the latter

[pearl moss]

Allrigjt

[rigid glen]

Is there plans or already a way to sync iOS balatro with steam balatro

[rough wyvern]

i read plant and i get scared

[rigid glen]

?

[pearl moss]

Troll move but you could copy the troubadour for more handsize in exchange for less hands lol

You have 1 hand per round

[rough wyvern]

may it be god, and then copy the scary face and play full house

i hope ur rigth

[pearl moss]

Don't

I was joking btw

[rough wyvern]

i was 100% sure that geting corrosion was a bad idea, but i just think "i will lose like in 2 more rounds"

now i hate my life

[twin lantern]

"The Flintstone Flyer" is the name of that episode. And it is the first aired episode of the flintstones.

[visual turtle]

I got hologram

pleeeease say

I can make it

[sudden river]

first win in a very long loss streak: square joker grimbo madness and two open slots to get gold stickers

[ancient gyro]

squimbo 🗣️

[pearl moss]

Don't be a square

[sudden river]

my stats heavily bias photo+chad

[visual turtle]

what to dooo

[pearl moss]

Ante 2

Need some flat multi right here since you have the blue joker

[rough wyvern]

mine kinda, i mean, face cards are op

[cosmic sun]

the pair situation is crazy

also I lost my streak

[pearl moss]

Allegation of pair being too good is real

[rough wyvern]

just pair or 2 pair too?

[pearl moss]

2 pair is not bad but the convenience being 2 cards help with the few discard you have in the gold stake

I tend to use pair while removing unwanted cards

[cosmic sun]

two pair has applications for scaling pants and being one of the obelisk hands to transition to from pair

[tranquil steppe]

Photo boiiiii

[vocal rose]

and black deck + plasma

[visual turtle]

it's too late

[cosmic sun]

true, the chips are kinda clutch

[visual turtle]

it's negative which is good

but

i can't

play a 2 pair with

All 4 suits???

[cosmic sun]

I like how I can absorb this balatro video instantly unlike anything in education

[visual turtle]

what am I supposed to
do

[cosmic sun]

I mean are you getting by with holo

Do you think you can live another ante with that much mult + holo

[visual turtle]

idk if I can score 40k

[ancient gyro]

yay 1.8x more chips 🗣️

[pearl moss]

Your holo should be in the last row after banana, red and boots

Multx applies on last trigger so it could multiply your banana, boots and ref muly

[cosmic sun]

I kinda wonder if having players opt in to test balance changes could be valuable

For as little credit as I give players

[surreal pier]

There aren't any jokers that synergize EXCLUSIVELY with 3s, 4s, 5s, 7s 8s and 10s right?

[maiden lily]

Crazy run with a nat negative mime

[cosmic sun]

7s, 10s, nah

well I guess 10 has steven

Lowkenuinely 7 is the one that would benefit a lot from an exclusive one tho

[visual turtle]

All right

[cosmic sun]

A mod has a joker for 7s it's called lucky 7

[terse dock]

10-4 gets pretty exclusive

[fathom umbra]

if I dont see some sort of jackpot casino reference joker that has an effect pertaining to 7s I am going to crumple jimbo up into a ball and eat him

[maiden lily]

Also funny thing about my run is that I was doing this to unlock plasma deck cause I wanted to unlock plasma but ended up getting my best run yet

[ivory sandal]

isnt there radio?

oh ig thats fours and tens

[pearl moss]

I think 5 is the least benefit number

[visual turtle]

skipping
flower pot

[pearl moss]

Ace got scholar which is really good is your going for multiples aces

[terse dock]

7s have nothing beside todd

[pearl moss]

Hmm

[terse dock]

5 has hack and fib at least

[pearl moss]

I guess that's fair

7 do be useless

I like aces

Aces scholar is goated

[visual turtle]

I can't tell if it's bad that red card is still at +0 mult

[terse dock]

What ante is it

[visual turtle]

5

[pearl moss]

If your red card is still 0+ by that point

[visual turtle]

I think i got it at ante 3

[stiff robin]

whats crackin people

[pearl moss]

Might as well sell for something else

[pearl moss]

Nobody doing crack here

[terse dock]

Sell it

[stiff robin]

lameeee

[terse dock]

This jit cracks people

[visual turtle]

negative lusty joker >:)))

im not getting it

[rough wyvern]

wish me luck

[pearl moss]

Better hope that lucky card hit

[rough wyvern]

it does not

[pearl moss]

Yeah vv do be like that

That's why glass cards for VV

[rough wyvern]

wee joker goat btw

[manic zealot]

this is true

[manic zealot]

bro you fucking conjured him

[rough wyvern]

JAJAJAJA

[surreal pier]

A rental luchador is essentially health insurance

[manic zealot]

facts

[fervent wolf]

A rental Mr. Bones is life insurance

[rough wyvern]

a perishable mr bones is like having cancer

[manic zealot]

loyalty card be like

[visual turtle]

Oh my i got the crimson heart

[manic zealot]

hate that boss

[visual turtle]

Oh no my banana went out

[rough wyvern]

me when I'm about to have a good time with a girl

[tidal sluice]

bro i open the server this the first thing i see😭

[surreal pier]

Excuse me wtf

😭

[visual turtle]

Phew I won

That was

[pearl moss]

Oh i didn't know yours could explode

[visual turtle]

scary

[surreal pier]

A Cavendish dying round 1 would be the saddest thing ever

[faint linden]

What's a Perishable Rental?

[rough wyvern]

sounds good to me

[surreal pier]

US' health system

[faint linden]

As an American, I can say you answered correctly

[tidal sluice]

how do you get de Joker +4 mult

[surreal pier]

Yay

[worn valve]

first jokerless attempt

[surreal pier]

I'm amazed straight was ur most played hand

[faint linden]

I wish there was a seed like the infamous Erratic one but it's K

[pearl moss]

You're so close

[worn valve]

ppl told me to main straights for jokerless because it scales the best

[faint linden]

I found a mod that makes that card Kasane Teto

[surreal pier]

Infamous erratic?

[surreal pier]

Fair

[pearl moss]

Straight are nice for jokerless

[faint linden]

52x 10 seed

[pearl moss]

But i like having 5 since death exist

[surreal pier]

I'd scroll all the way down to a cool teto art I have but lazy

[faint linden]

She's on the King of hearts

[visual turtle]

I think this seed wants me to play face cards 😔

[surreal pier]

Is erratic deck the theoretical best (and possibly hands down best one) deck for joker less?

[faint linden]

If you spam Flush Five on a particular seed, probably

[pearl moss]

If you want to play jokerless

[surreal pier]

The highest hand is Flush Five always right?

[pearl moss]

Then play the challenge

[surreal pier]

Playing Tboi without items is a different experience from cantripped

[faint linden]

Jimball should be in vanilla

[surreal pier]

What's jimball

[faint linden]

Joker from a mod that acts like a backwards Obelisk

[surreal pier]

HC/Pairslop let's gooo

[lunar zealot]

eh

jimball lowers skill expression

[visual turtle]

I got mime 💔

[faint linden]

Gains xMult for most played hand, resets on anything else

[lunar zealot]

'just keep doing the thing you were already doing' isn't very interactive

[surreal pier]

Exactly

Plus falls into the sad pit of stuff that benefits high cards/pairs cuz of how they're designed

The balatro academy video made some neat points

The problem isn't that pairs are OP, they just overshadow other hands most of the time

[faint linden]

Is that the guy with the math Ph.D.?

[surreal pier]

Yeah

[frank grove]

yeah i just started watching his newest video about the pair problem 😭

[surreal pier]

What does PhD even stand for

[faint linden]

Doctor of Philosophy

[visual turtle]

I see eternal baseball card
but
I only have like, 1, uncommon joker

[surreal pier]

Pairs in balatro are like the crusader's crossbow in TF2

What makes them OP is the other options being worse

[manic zealot]

I like this analogy

[faint linden]

Never played TF2

[surreal pier]

:D

[surreal pier]

You know how it works?

[frank grove]

Yeah, Balatro does struggle with this problem in a difficult way though

[terse dock]

What makes the crossbow op is that it's utility in a damage slot that also does better damage than anything else

[faint linden]

Ok, so broken item

[surreal pier]

Yeah

[surreal pier]

Not broken per se

But the undisputed best

[frank grove]

just better than other options

[visual turtle]

Hooray
It's the plant

[surreal pier]

It does something all medic primaries should've done from start; Heal allies on hit, damage foes on hit

[faint linden]

I hope you can get a Director's Cut

[terse dock]

Its burst heal is also life saving in a lot of situations

[pearl moss]

I like pairs

[surreal pier]

True, I love the crossbow

[pearl moss]

Because it's low risk for high reward

[surreal pier]

Gosh I miss my peak TF2 era

I was a demon with medic

What i lacked in landing bullets (with other classes) I made up for being a goated support

[pearl moss]

Compare to 4oak which is high risk for the same high reward as pair if you invest planet enough

It's invetible design of the game design itself

[terse dock]

Pair isnt a burst hand like straight or 4oak though

[faint linden]

If you have a ton of planet cards

[frank grove]

Well you can make blue seals worse, and maybe have weighted planets in the shop possibly

which would make something like telescope much better than it is right now

[surreal pier]

Imma sleep fellow Lava Geysers from the Subnautica Jellyshroom Caves Biome, keep Balatroing

[faint linden]

Or a PPA as I call it (Perkeo Particle Accelerator)

[terse dock]

Honestly I wish there were more jokers that promoted pivoting/variety in gameplay

[rose wing]

Anyone figure out how to get the mobile app to actually save your most recent unlocks? Mine seems to have intermittent amnesia 😢

[pearl moss]

We do

It's called the family

[terse dock]

Mid

[faint linden]

Obelisk?

[terse dock]

Trio >>>

[terse dock]

That's the only one

[twin lantern]

/ban Salsa

[terse dock]

For what purpose

[visual turtle]

im about 2 kms

[twin lantern]

I am a moderator I can do what I want

[faint linden]

6-high straight with 2 bonuses and a mult?

[stable owl]

[terse dock]

Hope for the lucky

[visual turtle]

It worked

[terse dock]

Did you win

[faint linden]

The straight?

[visual turtle]

Yeah

[terse dock]

Good

[faint linden]

That's what we like to hear

[terse dock]

Now start making glass cards

[visual turtle]

I can't

[terse dock]

Plant ideally doesn't kill photochad

[visual turtle]

I haven't seen a justice tarot card

[frank grove]

look in standards as well

[terse vale]

well yknow

[visual turtle]

I've only seen 1 glass card in standard

[terse vale]

duty calls

[frank grove]

did you take?

[visual turtle]

yeah

[terse vale]

goodbye banana and jugglemeister

[frank grove]

what rank is it?

[visual turtle]

7 spades

Aaaaand I died

this is why
I don't like face cardsssssss

[manic zealot]

early burnt joker was the mvp this run

[visual turtle]

welp i gtg nowwwww

[manic zealot]

l8r

[south palm]

Nah

Not Even a single photocard

😭

[faint linden]

On Abandoned?

[south palm]

Got a few kings

[faint linden]

Ride the Yorick is probably the best thing I could think of for that deck

[south palm]

New run

Holy

[manic zealot]

whoa! a hanging chad!

[formal abyss]

wordle today !

[terse vale]

got packed up

[white trellis]

can anyone help me with the black deck? i want to unlock checkered deck, but cannot get there with black

[spark kernel]

Whats the best deck for 400$ or more

[woven spire]

anaglyph

take the skip that doubles your money wnv u have a decent amount of double tags

[signal frigate]

Anaglyph gets you there easy, you could try Blue for the good Hand money

If you get a little lucky, try to grab a Mail in Rebate and a bunch of Bluestorm

You'll be swimming in the green after that

[dreamy creek]

i love bloodstone

[fervent wolf]

@serene forge

[atomic trout]

I'm dead

[fervent wolf]

You got me

[atomic trout]

Damn

[hidden birch]

Heh

[atomic trout]

All Unusual Jokers

[white trellis]

is there anything the black deck does better? anything I can do to imnprove my odds of winning?

[atomic trout]

Uncommon

[dreamy creek]

i love bloodstone

[atomic trout]

Gross

So much money

Rocket is BEAST

[pearl moss]

That stencil is only doing 2x

But it's uncommon so it's help baseball i guess

[vague elbow]

yall i got the negative luchador everyone swears will appear in hi score runs

[patent sail]

+1 jonkler, theres honestly a lot an extra jonkler can do

but -1 hand can kill a lot of runs other decks wouldnt

[dreamy creek]

i love bloodstone

[white trellis]

i agree, but unfortunatley, all of my runs die on ante 2

so like wth am I supposed to do???

oh and even if I get off the ground like I did in my last run, WALL

[patent sail]

i mean, what are you doing in them?

[white trellis]

I basically restart runs until I find good tags on ante one, play small blind, i'm usually trying to do flushes

[patent sail]

skip tags? you probably dont wanna skip on black deck

flushes are really good early game, yes

[white trellis]

just because at least that's something that can be built around, 2 pair is good, i know, but it feels so luck-based because you have to what, pick two numbers and roll from booster packs?

[rough wyvern]

i love my life, and i love this challenge

[patent sail]

are you oneshotting first small blind? thats kind of important to maximize money earned from remaining hands

[white trellis]

what can oneshot small blind? I try to, I guess, but I can't always do it

[patent sail]

absolutely? good enough flush/straight/full house or better will kill it in one hand

[white trellis]

so, basically just don't skip blinds and play the game

[patent sail]

id say so

[patent sail]

also i think two pair isnt really worth to go for unless you got pants jonkler (which is awesome)

its good in higher stakes i think (i may be wrong)

[zealous zinc]

watching doc spectred new video about balatro balance problem

i think its interesting to note that the only joker to my knowledge that applies enhancements to your cards is midas mask

[zealous zinc]

its good but you can force pairs a lot easier

like i wont be going two pair unless i specifically saw pants

[patent sail]

✅✅✅

[zealous zinc]

id love to see more jokers that enhance cards in some way

[lost vault]

mrew

[dark cairn]

GOLD BORNANA

THIS THING SURVIVED FROM ANTE 2

[stiff robin]

woah

[tepid skiff]

kris get the banana

[patent sail]

whenever i win its honestly either strong pairs build or 4oak+ if i got a lot of deckfixing opportunities

[stiff robin]

how do you put a yellow chip on joker

[rough wyvern]

nice

[dark cairn]

i now have 69% of the joker stickers

[patent sail]

kinda crazy honestly?

[dark cairn]

as in out of 1200 not 150

[patent sail]

win gold stake with it

[zealous zinc]

beat a gold stake run with it in your build

[stiff robin]

does that apply to the other ones? or just certain chips

[dark cairn]

theres a sticker for each stake

[stiff robin]

i don't see it on the jokers i got a red chip with

[dark cairn]

it only shows the highest sticker

[stiff robin]

interesting

[dark cairn]

but if your first run beaten using a joker is on gold stake

you'll automatically be counted for all 8 stickers

itll only show the gold one

[stiff robin]

maybe i'm tripping lol but none of my jokers have chips let me see

[dark cairn]

theres a setting to turn it off

[stiff robin]

got you! thanks for explaining

let me check that

[dark cairn]

its handy because theres an achievement for g etting a gold sticker on every joker

and youre obviously not gonna remember what stickers you have on all 150 jokers at any given time

[dark cairn]

comparing a rare to a common seems a bit unfair

[stiff robin]

ahhh that's what it was, thanks again

[dark cairn]

np

[fervent wolf]

It was a JOKE poll after people claimed that they would take 8ball over baseball

[dark cairn]

are they stupid or playing plasma/painted deck

"Man i hate all of my uncommons being instantly made polychrome"

[fervent wolf]

Also, you are wrong, if we compare Baron and Hallucination, Baron is the rare and Hallucination is the common, yet I would take an eternal Hallucination any day over a Baron, especially on Gold Stake

[zealous zinc]

8 ball so underrated

man be careful playing with mods

my save is weirdly borked rn

[patent sail]

i mean you can just not have any uncommons or just one where its not worth replacing something for 1.5x, but even then i wouldnt really take 8 ball over it anyway 😭

[zealous zinc]

i have all my stake wins but all my decks except the first 5 are not unlocked

[zealous zinc]

well

if i see 8 ball and i see baseball

and i have no uncommons or its early

i might just take the 8 ball

[patent sail]

i think id go for 8 ball more often if it didnt have that bad of a chance to trigger

[near rune]

first time this far in orange stake, how should I arrange my jokers to get the max score (i got tons of enhanced Kings)

[zealous zinc]

tarot gen is tarot gen

[patent sail]

1/3 maybe? 1/2 may be a bit of a stretch, but would be fun too

[zealous zinc]

unpopular opinion but i think its fine how it is

i know people will hate me for that tho

[wraith palm]

what if blue stake made all hands start at lvl 0

[patent sail]

i mean tarot gen is always good, i just dont see myself going for 8s which have no other synergies other than 8 ball

[torpid bridge]

Then its too easy

Actually you cant do good eco at first ante cuz needs more hands to win

[wraith palm]

i remember doing nothing when the arm hit my hands to lvl 0

[torpid bridge]

But well, it only happens in ante 1 or 2 ig

[patent sail]

it never did that to me? can it go below 1?

[wraith palm]

well usually these effects hit the early game

[near rune]

how should i place my jokers

[wraith palm]

very early versions

now it doesn't

[patent sail]

im a bit of a newgen 🎊🐈

[wraith palm]

gold stake -1 hand size was painful

[patent sail]

like ive heard of the game in 2024 but didnt bother trying it until mid 2025

[zealous zinc]

why do you give me this in GOLD stake bro

[zealous zinc]

i swear im gonna take this and go for retriggers and die

[dawn sedge]

place blueprint in the rightmost slot

[patent sail]

mythical card pull

[zealous zinc]

like

i even already have

purple and blue seals

[atomic trout]

Blue Seals 😄

[wraith palm]

no it should be looking at the photot

[patent sail]

copy photo? i think its 2x better like that

2^5 < 4^3

[wraith palm]

twice per trigger better than two more triggers

[patent sail]

yuppp

[wraith palm]

cuz without bp you got three triggers

[patent sail]

will be 2x more total

[patent sail]

the half jonkler

[atomic trout]

gargles in rich

Thanks MR BONES

[patent sail]

sir huesos

[atomic trout]

Huesos saved me from an idiot boss

How is it that the Psychic is hard?

[jaunty robin]

never in my life have i been so addicted to a game i'm so bad at

[atomic trout]

Oh wait... the Half Joker

[patent sail]

kills half jonkler which is kind of really tuff early game

[atomic trout]

Not unless you High card

[patent sail]

or alternatively it hurts when im just blind and forget to read what the boss does

[patent sail]

are you saying its not good? 😭

[atomic trout]

Bleh. it's another game

[atomic trout]

See? It's good 😄

[zealous zinc]

hes a chad

but he isnt hanging

[patent sail]

i mean thats truth right there

[atomic trout]

Wait. that's the wrong screeen shot

[patent sail]

always happy to see him first 3-4 antes

[viral mountain]

Got a Yorick to X20 tonight

[atomic trout]

High Card, reached Exponents

[viral mountain]

Plus an Idol but it was a little too early to be consistent

[zealous zinc]

holy banner value

i have a perishable banner shop 1 and the game has drawn me a full house immediately every blind

even the second ante small blind i just got 10s full of aces

[atomic trout]

Nothing wrong with the House that's Full 😄

[zealous zinc]

AND THEN A STRAIGHT

AFTER THE FULL HOUSE

HOLY

[patent sail]

idol is so cool when you actually get it working, like 2 or 3 days ago finally got a run where i got it to work

[atomic trout]

Idol is the one that acts like the Cerluean Bell?

[viral mountain]

I don't think I've ever gotten a True Idol Build yet

[atomic trout]

Or is that Ancient Joker?

[patent sail]

idol is either F tier or S tier and never inbetween

[viral mountain]

Idol selects a random card from your deck and gives you X2 every trigger of it

[atomic trout]

The Cerluean Bell Joker...

[patent sail]

what 😭

[zealous zinc]

idol is meta

(in multiplayer)

[atomic trout]

It selects ONE card, like the Blue Bell haha

[viral mountain]

Well at least you have a line of reasoning there

[patent sail]

[zealous zinc]

immediate grat or delayed grat (shop 1)

[atomic trout]

Also, the Cerluan Bells sucks when it comes to Flushes and Straight runs

[patent sail]

rocket is tuff

take

[viral mountain]

I've had an Ancient Joker run go pretty far once

[patent sail]

rn

[zealous zinc]

yes

[atomic trout]

Blast Off

[viral mountain]

Rocket

[zealous zinc]

its also bbc value

[atomic trout]

BBC? hehe

[viral mountain]

We do not tolerate the Br*tish here

[atomic trout]

Or the other side

Big Bold Card

[patent sail]

madness is lowk so fun actually

[atomic trout]

Nah, that was weak.

[patent sail]

i got it first pack on my first black stake run

[viral mountain]

Madness on any stake higher than Black is pretty cool

[atomic trout]

A BBC Joker anyone?

[patent sail]

free win

[viral mountain]

White Stake, not really

[patent sail]

i mean yeah

but it did win me cruelty challenge so

[zealous zinc]

bro

[atomic trout]

Cruelty is hard.

[viral mountain]

I've done Madness runs before

[zealous zinc]

all my jokers are not even in my collection

they are all locked again

[viral mountain]

Sometimes they work sometimes they don't

[zealous zinc]

fuck this shit im restarting this profile

[viral mountain]

Usually from my own fumblings

[patent sail]

i just dont take it if i dont get it early enough on any stake under black

its very situational

[viral mountain]

Pretty much

[patent sail]

but its so good to get early

[viral mountain]

Shop 1 or 2 it's an easy snag

*Ante 1 or 2

Ante 3 I'm far more hesitant

[near rune]

DO I GET BRAINSTORM?

[patent sail]

ofc

instead of banana

[silent quiver]

New doc video going to save so many people so much time learning the game

[atomic trout]

Not enough levels.

[patent sail]

copy photo for 8x per trigger which is really tuff

[near rune]

wait why

[atomic trout]

High Card is KING! 😄

[vast grove]

decent jokers i think

[patent sail]

photo gives much more with all the triggers

[atomic trout]

On ..

[viral mountain]

I see someone likes gambling

[patent sail]

thats extra 2x 3 times (with chad) which is 8x > 3x from banana

unless youre going gold stake and want gold sticker on banana

then keep it i guess

[vast grove]

this is the luckiest seed ever the gambling is paying off

[viral mountain]

He's on Orange but it's still a higher sticker

[atomic trout]

It's a hard Stake

[acoustic kettle]

Stickers doesn't really matter until gold tbh

[patent sail]

meh, id say take the brainstorm

[patent sail]

this

[atomic trout]

But it's nice to see a few Orange here and there

But Gold Stickers on food?

[patent sail]

but its nicer to see a few gold here and there

[viral mountain]

One of my only Gold Stickers so far is on fucking Seeing Double of all things

[atomic trout]

I can't even win on Gold Stake

[acoustic kettle]

I mean seeing double is a good joker

[zealous zinc]

is doc cooking? this is a suggestion for balancing pairs vs higher hands

lwk i see the vision

[viral mountain]

It just showed up in an Ante 8 shop on a build with like 2 slots open

[patent sail]

nor have i

[near rune]

like that?

[viral mountain]

It was also Polychrome so I felt I had to

[patent sail]

mhm

[atomic trout]

I reached Gold Stakes on Plasma Blood Deck

[zealous zinc]

8^3

[atomic trout]

Yes, blood, I bleed when I lose

[potent tree]

no. you need to copy one each

[acoustic kettle]

Hm yes of course i love my 2 hands black deck

[viral mountain]

I actually have a screenshot of how that build ended

[potent tree]

if you copy 1 each you get 10 triggers, copying photo twice only gives 9 triggers

[patent sail]

i honestly got the game on steam very recently and gotta replay everything now, so i dont even have gold stake unlocked yet

[zealous zinc]

simply play straights on black deck and use the extra discard to draw em

[acoustic kettle]

Yeah no

[near rune]

how do i arrange the jokers for that?

[atomic trout]

I have Green Deck Gold stakes at the ready, the other Plasma on Gold

[zealous zinc]

yea yes

[atomic trout]

I like Green Deck.

[acoustic kettle]

3 hands 2 discards is better than 2 hands 3 discards

[potent tree]

put brainstorm on chad, blueprint on photo

[zealous zinc]

it would be 2 hands 4 discards

[acoustic kettle]

Blue stake

[zealous zinc]

because theres a 99% chance blue stake changes

[acoustic kettle]

Well true

[viral mountain]

I've got Gold on Ghost and I think Anaglyph

[near rune]

like that?

[viral mountain]

And just unlocked it on Magic

[zealous zinc]

like its not even 99%

its 100%

so like 4 discards 2 hands

[potent tree]

no, switch blueprint and brainstorm around

[zealous zinc]

i think it does make it harder but not impossibly harder

if you have 4 discards

so i dont think that black deck alone makes it a bad change is what im saying

[near rune]

?

[acoustic kettle]

Black deck is already miserable as it is

[zealous zinc]

like again the point of the whole video is to try and shift balance from pairs

[patent sail]

truth, i just checked and both copies on photo is 512x, one on each is 1024x

which is 2x more

[potent tree]

yes this is it

[acoustic kettle]

And you don't really play pairs on black deck anyway

[atomic trout]

Nah

[zealous zinc]

pairs still are an awesome choice on black

they are just harder to play, but every other hand type is hurt even more

[near rune]

FUUUU CKKKKKK

[zealous zinc]

in the current state

[acoustic kettle]

Two pair is better for harder decks like black and plasma

[near rune]

I NEED TO SELL A JOKER

[potent tree]

sell bull honestly

[zealous zinc]

oh yea, actually two pair is solid

[near rune]

but i dont have any sources for chipss

[atomic trout]

Play high card on Black Deck

[near rune]

unless ill have enough mult to score?

[potent tree]

you don't need any. you got loads of xmult

[zealous zinc]

tbh, now i want to make a mod that makes black deck 2 hands and 4 discards

and see how it plays

[atomic trout]

I had Stencil with Antimatter

[viral mountain]

If your XMult is good enough, Chips will not matter

[potent tree]

and if your lucky card triggers it's easy win

[patent sail]

theres online balatro calculator thing, you can check

[viral mountain]

Or even if your Hand is good enough Chips stop mattering

[atomic trout]

Calculator? Use your head

[acoustic kettle]

I don't think a deck should ever have 2 hands in its default state

[patent sail]

its empty

[near rune]

LMAO i won with a pair of 9 lvl 4

[viral mountain]

Like if you have levels in Flush or Flush Five or whatever that'll completely clear out Bull

[near rune]

that shit is busted ill try to do my highscore

[zealous zinc]

i can say one thing: just arguing and theorycrafting on why a change is good or bad isnt going to tell you ow it works in practice

[atomic trout]

Balatro is fun when you see your numbers not exeeding and then FIN DE PARTIDA

[zealous zinc]

cause tbh it might just be obscenely difficult

[atomic trout]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaargh

Just like this

I miscalculated.

[acoustic kettle]

The early game is

Especially with 2 hands

The econ is basically dead now

Since you rarely one shot in early game

[atomic trout]

Black Deck makes sure you have no Eco early on

[zealous zinc]

you get 2 dollars per unused hand so its actually just as bad as regular black deck

[atomic trout]

But hey, that extra Joker Slot is waiting.

[atomic trout]

The best Deck 🤣

[zealous zinc]

2 dollars with 1 hand left

vs 2 dollars with 2 hands left in black decks current state

[acoustic kettle]

Well early you can't always one shot

[zealous zinc]

only difference is that you get nothing if you play 2 hands

[acoustic kettle]

A lot of times you need 2

[zealous zinc]

im gonna test and see rn

[acoustic kettle]

The hard thing with black deck is the early game

Making it 2 hands is just hell

[zealous zinc]

ima test and see

ima make a mod rn

[potent tree]

challenge: start with black deck, eternal troubadour, hieroglyph

[atomic trout]

Green Deck does remind me of Black Deck in a way, each Hand and Discard costs me money!

[near rune]

@potent tree where should I place sock&buskin ?

temporary tho

[atomic trout]

No interest? No problem, spend all that money

[potent tree]

don't copy anything for sock honestly

where it is currently is fine

[viral mountain]

Count your Triggers and Score Effects and try to get both as close as possible

Very, very quick math is telling me you can now have Blueprint and Brainstorm on Photograph

[zealous zinc]

yes

[atomic trout]

yeh

[zealous zinc]

before the sock it should have been one on chad

[viral mountain]

But with the extra trigger effect you can even them out now

Or

Lopside them

Ig

is the term

Double copy the Photo

[patent sail]

balatrodle in 3 yayyy

[near rune]

should I get Bull back ? eternal tho..

[viral mountain]

No

[patent sail]

meh, nah

[zealous zinc]

my math tells me that it doesnt matter if he has a copy on chad or if he double copies phoot

but i might be stupid

[viral mountain]

Also what are you playing Hand wise, High Card? Flush?

[atomic trout]

High

[patent sail]

copy on each is 2x more

8^3 is less than 4^5

[zealous zinc]

its 8^4 vs 4^6

dont forget the initial trigger on the card

[patent sail]

oh sock now

[zealous zinc]

oh wait u missed sock nvm

yea they just got it

its perishable though 😭

[patent sail]

i forgot the sock

[atomic trout]

Gross

High Card gets getting Higher

[near rune]

im getting insane numbers

im praying to go far

[atomic trout]

Not bad ❤️

[vast grove]

I GOT 2 LEGENDARYS IN A ROW LAST RUN FYM I GET PERKEO RIGHT AFTER

[atomic trout]

Show us 😄

[patent sail]

whever i get a legendary its somehow always canio or chicot

[patent sail]

and whenever i get canio all means of destroying cards just disappear from the shop

[atomic trout]

Nasty

In a good way

[vast grove]

this is double legendary

[atomic trout]

Black Deck?

[vast grove]

yea

doing checkered rn

[atomic trout]

Antimatter?

Wait, I'm a idiot, there's a negative Baron

[rough wyvern]

XDDD

[placid ridge]

jokerless loss

[atomic trout]

For whom the Bells toll

[placid ridge]

indeed

[atomic trout]

Shame. Shame.

[placid ridge]

lol

[atomic trout]

Looks like it didn't ring a bell.

[rough wyvern]

dont scare me like that

[placid ridge]

j*b

[atomic trout]

What was your strategy?

[rough wyvern]

AAAGGH

[atomic trout]

Or what hands were you using?

[placid ridge]

fill my deck with diamonds, particularly lucky cards and steel.

[placid ridge]

just flushes

[atomic trout]

I can see how the Bell can kill your run

[placid ridge]

yeah

and I made a big mistake choosing the tarots to bring in

[atomic trout]

It happened to me one time, had a Flush run with Smudged Joker and it chose the, wrong card.

[atomic trout]

Nah, it's was luck

[placid ridge]

chose to bring a fool and steel instead of glass.

I should've taken the glass obviously, since you can't create new (immediately usable) steel in cerulean bell

[atomic trout]

I used to undestimate Glass Cards until I saw the real value

[tacit quail]

dis how u start a run

optimal

[placid ridge]

I still do but at least I realize that glass would've won me that run.

[placid ridge]

good luck 🫡

[atomic trout]

I can't say much about Jokerless, its my second to last Challenge

[placid ridge]

I guess I'll do this jokerless run pretty much the same as my last

[atomic trout]

Skip

[placid ridge]

penúltimo desafío

[placid ridge]

of course

[near rune]

🫩🫩🫩FMCL

[zealous zinc]

ok im almost done making the new hypothetical black dedck change

[atomic trout]

Oh dios mio

No Comodines :C

[placid ridge]

sounds a lot more metal in Spanish lol

[atomic trout]

An old Glass run

Cinco De Mayo 😄

[atomic trout]

It does, haha

[unborn cliff]

Maoy is my favorite month

[atomic trout]

I mistyped haha

[placid ridge]

5 of mayonnaise

mayo is the best suit in a standard deck.

[atomic trout]

But it's hard to pull off

[placid ridge]

a club sandwich doesn't taste nearly as good as one with mayo.

[atomic trout]

Clubs? The worse suit in the game, haha

At least Spades gives you +Mult, Hearts with xMult, and Diamonds $$

[placid ridge]

don't worry, I won't tell them what you said

[atomic trout]

Wait, Spades gives out Chips...?

[zealous zinc]

may yo de noche

[atomic trout]

Spearhead gives out +50 Chips, which is fine

[placid ridge]

I was also thinking of this lmao

You know that meme? @atomic trout

[zealous zinc]

"i trust this guy to pronounce mayonaise"

alright time to test it

i uh

forgot how to make a mod

like the structure

so i just copied extra credit

so like the deck texture is the echo deck from extra credit

[rough wyvern]

how will work -22 hand?

[atomic trout]

Which one

[placid ridge]

it might show up if you search this

[zealous zinc]

ok so the idea of this rn is that doc spectred suggested that to make pairs less oppressive, you can make it so that you have 4 discards and 3 hands by default instead of 4 hands and 3 discards

[zealous zinc]

and make hands give +2 dollars per unused hand as well so econ isnt killed

but then if you play blakc deck its now going to be 4 discards and 2 hands (yes, on gold stake, since blue stake will no longer be -1 discard in the next update)

so i made this mod to test it

[atomic trout]

Yay

Wait

[clever ingot]

Pretty mad run

[atomic trout]

Wrong screenshot

I lost it

[placid ridge]

damn

[atomic trout]

That's the un.

Pair run

[zealous zinc]

k idk if im terrible at gold stake or 2 hands is hard

[atomic trout]

You're not the only one

[placid ridge]

now we're talking

[analog estuary]

lovely game

[zealous zinc]

i think i just suck

id stream the gameplay but theres no vcs here

[night bridge]

Black deck?

[zealous zinc]

its

[digital pewter]

we're balling....

[lost vault]

worst edition second worst enhancement

hnm

very awesome

[night bridge]

Nah u r ok, blackdeck is hard

[digital pewter]

only 4 decks left to beat on orange stake before i take them all on on gold stake

[zealous zinc]

this

[placid ridge]

@night bridge custom black deck with only 2 hands

[zealous zinc]

(doc spectred suggested that instead of base 4 hands and 3 discards, it should be 3 hands and 4 discards)

[digital pewter]

we love mods

[zealous zinc]

and also that each hand is 2 dollars per unused hand

so, naturally the question on peoples minds when i broguht that up is "black deck with 2 hands"

[night bridge]

I had no idea lol

[analog estuary]

he cant suggest shit that guy is so cracked he could play with 1 hand 0 discards and still say its lightweight

[placid ridge]

I know lol

[zealous zinc]

(i kept it at 4 discards and not 3 on gold stake because blue stake will no longer be -1 discards)

[placid ridge]

Black deck is hard though

[zealous zinc]

nah like the whole idea of this is to push people away from pair lobotomy

id like to see if this change would break balck deck

[analog estuary]

im already bad enough i need pair

[zealous zinc]

no

this change shouldnt make the game harder on most decks i think

it might make black deck horribly hard to win (but the main thing is that econ wise it actually doesnt change much to have only 2 hands)

[potent tree]

i haven't leveled up a single planet...i sacked business card to ankh hologram

free stickers on splash and ice cream i guess

[atomic trout]

Planet Scaling is.. useless?

[zealous zinc]

so far so good though

[analog estuary]

why he buff tho 😥

[lost vault]

obviously

[atomic trout]

Here I am spending money on Planets

[atomic trout]

How?

I never understood how.

[analog estuary]

if you get enough luck

[tacit quail]

man im sweating

[lost vault]

its onlu chips and mult smh

[tacit quail]

nooo

[stiff robin]

honestly didn't expect to win with this but i'll take it lol

[analog estuary]

fr who wins games without +ante jokers

[atomic trout]

Missed the eye of the Needle

[tacit quail]

i played a foil lucky proc 20 ace AND a holo glass ace

[placid ridge]

looks pretty winning to me

good job

[atomic trout]

I always scale planets

[tacit quail]

my card sharp : (

[stiff robin]

The superposition did basically nothing

but i got it late too so didn't matter too much

[lone tendon]

I wanted to do an invisible joker play but it didn't work out but it worked out anyway cause glass and flush house is great

[stiff robin]

love seeing your guys' pictures with stuff i haven't found yet

[atomic trout]

Like..?

[zealous zinc]

yea so far so good

this is honestly not that bad

[stiff robin]

like the infinite stamp on jokers

[atomic trout]

Ante 2 Needle? Ewwwuhh

[stiff robin]

i don't even know what that is lol

[atomic trout]

That's Black Stakes and above

[stiff robin]

ohhh gotcha

[atomic trout]

Rental is where it's at. Aaaugh

[zealous zinc]

hey

[stiff robin]

i still have jokers to find too

[zealous zinc]

i have 2 hands

[potent tree]

well that should be it for the run. obviously 3 7x mults help but still