🕹・game-discussion

[serene forge]

which is why superpos is pretty weak

[zealous zinc]

its because of blue stake imho

[cosmic sun]

pairs just too universal

[serene forge]

aka exactly how you're supposed to use runner

[cosmic sun]

sadly

[lofty geyser]

I have been known to have a glass card or two

[cosmic sun]

Straights are a nice change of pace

[zealous zinc]

this too but its exactly because of blue stake that no other hand types can even start to compare

like even if blue stake was removed i think pairs will still be the meta

[cosmic sun]

who knows what jokers will be introduced tbh

[brave goblet]

unless blue seals were nerfed too

[cosmic sun]

[zealous zinc]

i havent checked in in a while

is this confirmed happening yet

[serene forge]

I don't think you can easily nerf pairs without killing them

[brave goblet]

idk

[cosmic sun]

really?

[serene forge]

but buffing other hands will give you more reason to play them

[cosmic sun]

what if blue seals ran on a charge system

[brave goblet]

tbh pairs do get nuked by a number of different boss blinds

[serene forge]

because pairs admittedly do struggle quite a bit against vv admittedly

[brave goblet]

i.e. seems pretty balanced lol

[serene forge]

I hate Crimson Heart

[vocal rose]

I don't think this should be the way

the game needs to be hard

[zealous zinc]

again i think if blue stake didnt exist the variation in GS builds would increase a lot

[vocal rose]

and buffing the other hands just makes the game easier

[cosmic sun]

instead of a guaranteed blue seal there would be like a numeric counter like "every 2 blue seals kept in hand will yield a planet" type shi

[zealous zinc]

why

[vocal rose]

bad wording

it doesnt NEED to be hard

[serene forge]

they'll just nerf photochad and everything will be fine

[brave goblet]

multiplayer version of chad

[vocal rose]

but I get the most enjoyment out of the difficulty

[zealous zinc]

real

[serene forge]

thunk said blue stake rework will for sure make the game easier anyways

so im not concerned

[vocal rose]

he said that it'll make it easier?

[brave goblet]

ngl I'm really used to the -1 discard that now that's like default to me lol

[zealous zinc]

i dont disagree, but for me its more about finding the path that leads me to victory and if that path is pairs every time i get bored as fuck

[cosmic sun]

chad nerf would be funny as hell because I would just carry on as per usual while photochadders would probably keel over

[brave goblet]

photochadders just gotta learn to deck fix + photodusk

[vocal rose]

like implied that the game WILL be easier or it'll be more balanced

[zealous zinc]

i mean

[vocal rose]

also boo gs a8 tierlist

[cosmic sun]

guys WHY is the only way to win gold stake being NERFED!!!!

[lofty geyser]

Has anyone else played this game so much that the light is gone and they just play out of habit

[brave goblet]

at the very least, the blue stake rework, whatever it is, should make other hand types more fun to play even if it's still hard

[potent tree]

rats. so close! level 23 4oak

[zealous zinc]

if you change blue stake and dont do anything else its like almost 99% guaranteed to be easier

[vocal rose]

this is what I mean

the other hands should be more VIABLE

a minor buff

but not a full buff whilst also still making pairs meta

[brave goblet]

tbh if I pick up 2 saturns on ante 1, I'm going straights lmao

[zealous zinc]

the perfect game to me would be one where depending on the landscape you pick and choose the hand types you want to play to win

[cosmic sun]

Honestly I've probably gotten more money from Dgrat overall than Satellite

[serene forge]

i recall the former but I can't check

[cosmic sun]

I wish there was a way to track that type of thing

[serene forge]

because the channel was removed

[zealous zinc]

aka like some seeds, you can see pairs arent the most viable

[cosmic sun]

Would be cool

[zealous zinc]

its hard to get there though

[cosmic sun]

Cause for one Dgrat is more common ig

And I guess the reward of $4 is usually more tangible to me

[vocal rose]

I hate delayed grat

it's horrible

[serene forge]

i always gaslight myself into thinking dg is better than it really is

[cosmic sun]

Well my reasoning is Satellite is less common and starts at 0

[vocal rose]

rarity doesn't matter when it comes to joker viability

[zealous zinc]

oh boy arlo is going jokerless into the second ante even tho tutorial gives him RtB

[vocal rose]

and yes it does start at 0, but it ISNT hard at all to scale it

yes its a money sink but its easy to get it to golden joker status

its severely underrated and overhated

[zealous zinc]

indeed, it just means its less often a part of a build

[cosmic sun]

This might also be my blue deck bias tbh

[zealous zinc]

this is the same reasoning for why moving idol to rare in multiplayer wouldnt stop it from being oppressive in the meta

[cosmic sun]

More hands to actually make something happen

[vocal rose]

my tierlist is centralized around gold stake

so it takes that into consideration too

[cosmic sun]

Yeah I mean Dgrat works for me enough of the time is my logic

[zealous zinc]

it took me a long time to accept this though

[safe fractal]

i am 4 coupons away from completing my collection

[zealous zinc]

i like dgrat but it also sucky wucky :(

to play around

[cosmic sun]

Actually it's ironic I'm putting Dgrat over Satellite since Satellite is actually delaying my gratification

[vocal rose]

my logic is how much value it can bring me at any point in the run

and having to GET RID of discards to get value from del grat?

[zealous zinc]

arlo noooo

[vocal rose]

thats horrible

[brave goblet]

hey he got $18 on ante 2, that's more than most starting players

[torpid bridge]

Agree

[brave goblet]

wait ante 5 nvm

[zealous zinc]

i like a dgrat early

[cosmic sun]

Early dgrat or a situation where Dgrat is neutral is pretty good

[vocal rose]

if I have a scoring joker already that doesn't need me to discard for a flush/straight/full house

yes

but if its early game im using those discards to survive

you can very much perish from not using your discards early game

[brave goblet]

just use your hands as discards 🧠

[cosmic sun]

^ my blue deck bias

[brave goblet]

all four hands to get $4 back anyway

[vocal rose]

ohhh blue deck

[cosmic sun]

Also the worst thing Dgrat can do is not give you $4

[vocal rose]

not blue stake

im a balatro player

[vocal rose]

and bring zero value?

[brave goblet]

man I haven't played the other decks in ages

[vocal rose]

thats pretty bad

[brave goblet]

I'm so used to zodiac's +1 shop slot

[cosmic sun]

I mean people discard on Grimbo to save their asses sometimes I kinda view it like that

You get $0 but you stay alive

[modern panther]

Jesus Christ this seed

[vocal rose]

theres only one joker that actively harms you and its showman

so that isnt a good baseline tbh

[zealous zinc]

id rather sink my teeth into a joker that lets me survive

than dgrat

[vocal rose]

thats still +3 mult

[zealous zinc]

if i already have such a joker

[vocal rose]

if they use one discard

[zealous zinc]

i take dgrat

[hidden lance]

beautiful

[vocal rose]

which means the value has been lost by the most miniscule amount

delayed grat? its useless if you use ONE discard

I understand being able to make it work sometimes

thats possible

however its still very much the worst econ joker

worse than satellite at the minimum

[brave goblet]

dgrat would get less hate if it were just dependent on how many discards you had left

[vocal rose]

idk

since

[cosmic sun]

-$2 per discard?

[vocal rose]

you can still bring in more than 4 dollars of value with discards

[brave goblet]

yeah

[vocal rose]

post blue stake rework would def change my mind

which reinforces the idea that current blue stake is just

ass

[vocal rose]

if del grat was like this with 3 discards it'd be decent

[zealous zinc]

kinda ruins the theming imo tho

[wintry ice]

as good as it is i'm not sure if i'd put bus on the same tier as pants and red card

[zealous zinc]

really?

its so consistent

[vocal rose]

nah I can

its soooo good

[zealous zinc]

yea like

look at the jokers in the tier below it

[vocal rose]

well

idk

I can see what you mean

[wintry ice]

i'd also say that throwback is more on the level of the 3oak page 1 jokers

[vocal rose]

nah that shit is just ass 😭

like I hear that all the time and yes you're right it

DOES have usage but

its just ass

[zealous zinc]

i think id put bus in the vicinity of pants and red before putting it in the vicinity of vampire or square or grimbo

[wintry ice]

i mean those other jokers are similarly pretty bad

though i have used wily for chips before

[vocal rose]

MIIIGHT move trading card down

[safe fractal]

is S the highest teir?

[zealous zinc]

i think reasonable

its not as needed with GS when the meta is pairs

[wintry ice]

i wouldn't

[cosmic sun]

I've come to appreciate deck thinning a bit more but I still don't get that excited for trading card ngl

maybe because it's not that exciting of a card even though it's pretty powerful

[safe fractal]

i have some serious questions if either yes or no

if yes, where is blueprint?
if no, why is brainstorm not in the highest teir?

[vocal rose]

no

[zealous zinc]

trading card is exceptionally powerful when your build is centered around a specific card or around hands that are hard to draw

[zealous zinc]

brainstorm < blueprint

[cosmic sun]

glass joker in S

[vocal rose]

yes

its so fucking good

[zealous zinc]

i can imagine it but i also just never take glass cards

but like yea its def good when i think

[cosmic sun]

I would lowkey make a tier called went out to get milk tier

[zealous zinc]

glass is just another way to thin your deck after all

[vocal rose]

this, sometimes decent mult that can clutch, and can be broken in other ways

[safe fractal]

brainstorm > 95% of the other cards in the game. not every single S teir is equal, some are better S than others. in this case blueprint would be a better S+ but brainstorm is still an S+. like saying because Mail In Rebait is top 3 cards in the game that means blueprint cant be S+

[vocal rose]

than just the 1/4

which ISNT bad

[vocal rose]

I mean

we arent disagreeing

[tidal pawn]

Now this is a tier list I like to see

[vocal rose]

but blueprint is just objectively better

brainstorm STILL is crazy

[safe fractal]

i agree

[vocal rose]

its in the S tier

[zealous zinc]

fair point

[vocal rose]

thank you 🙂

[cosmic sun]

I pick up glass a decent amount for that reason + to clutch a blind but the nature of it still feels rare to get plus you then have to break glass to which the unbreakable glass meme starts applying

[vocal rose]

I've ranked them

[safe fractal]

right im just saying it should be S+ but overall fine list

[vocal rose]

so midas mask IS better than brainstorm

imo

[vocal rose]

cant see it that way

[tidal pawn]

Mmmmm, Midas vampire🤤

[brave goblet]

midas mask is like the only jonker in the whole game that applies a true enhancement to your card iirc

[zealous zinc]

the issue with brainstorm is there is often a time where taking it makes your build worse

because it hits the left card

[vocal rose]

the fact that brainstorm CANT score optimally with a +mult and x mult is the important part

[safe fractal]

glass is way too high and Baron being in Ass cheeks is i guess opinionated. also Bean is minimum A-. dont see too much else wrong tho

[brave goblet]

only kind of mirrored by hiker but hiker's a unique thing entirely

[vocal rose]

and these two are almost ALWAYS together

[zealous zinc]

disagree disagree and yea i guess maybe

[cosmic sun]

Baron can stay there tbh it can rarely help but that's not enough to take it out of asscheeks

[vocal rose]

I can see bean tbh

[cosmic sun]

Consistency is key

[vocal rose]

but disagree and disagree

glass joker has crazy scaling with a condition that really isn't that hard

[safe fractal]

im going off "does it help me win gold stake run" i assume then you're going off like endless or something?

[vocal rose]

and baron is just straight up bad for gold stake a8

[zealous zinc]

meanwhile with blueprint i literally cant think of a time where it makes the build worse

[cosmic sun]

And you have to think that a shitton of jokers above Baron require less setup

[vocal rose]

no

that means im going off of does it help me win gold stake

[zealous zinc]

we are all going off ante 8 gold stake

[willow frost]

nothing is enough to take me out of asscheeks

[plain briar]

worth taking?

[placid ridge]

burglar with ride the bus, yay or nay?

[vocal rose]

FUCK no

[plain briar]

thanks

[safe fractal]

no

[zealous zinc]

yay

[vocal rose]

depends on your deck

zero deck fixing, nay

[placid ridge]

anaglyph

[vocal rose]

like

deck of cards

[placid ridge]

so far, no changes

[vocal rose]

I'd say nay.

[zealous zinc]

you could just sack half the hands for scaling with high card

[vocal rose]

doesn't need burglar

[vocal rose]

you can die

[zealous zinc]

simply dont

[vocal rose]

high card chips isnt enough

pair chips is JUST enough

[zealous zinc]

mm fair

[vocal rose]

well

you do have an extra +3 hands

[zealous zinc]

yea

[modern panther]

You're kidding...

[vocal rose]

I dont think its necessary though

[zealous zinc]

i mean lets assume you play a game with just rtb and its ante 1

you are probably able to survive well anwyays

[vocal rose]

we take it since you need scoring

[cosmic sun]

Burglar bus isn't the most dangerous tbh

[zealous zinc]

so picking up burglar just lets you get more scaling

[safe fractal]

tbh im struggling to see anything that id super disagree with, very good list. at most i have minor gripes (like bean being too low) but thats minor. i'd say Cavendish being S+ makes sense in terms of what it does but the way you have to get it, think S+ is too high

S i'd say

[cosmic sun]

Putting unused face cards into your played hand could help not crash the bus

[zealous zinc]

just pretend the 3 hands are for scaling and then use the remaining 4 to play pairs like normal

[vocal rose]

yeah thats what I'm mostly glad to hear

[wild merlin]

Anyone know if there's any fnaf mods?

[vocal rose]

is the minor differences that CAN be sorted out

[modern panther]

I know i take the photo, but I mean the crazy

[vocal rose]

#⚙・modding-general

[wild merlin]

Oh yea mb

[vocal rose]

but I strongly disagree with the cavendish being a tier below

[zealous zinc]

cavendish is very easy to get

[vocal rose]

and the reasoning behind it too

[zealous zinc]

just because it doesnt always show up doesnt make it bad

[vocal rose]

since we don't rank jokers by how you get it or the rarity

[cosmic sun]

cavendish makes gros michel more valuable

[vocal rose]

otherwise we put the 5 legendaries in the ASS CHEEKS BOOTY BUNS tier

since we BARELY get them

unconditional 3x mult?

[cosmic sun]

its like a piece of xmult to look out for once gros michel dies

[vocal rose]

thats insane value

[zealous zinc]

this is also why "balancing" by changing rarity does not work

[safe fractal]

just the fact you have to do a mini side quest to get it at least makes it one of the worst S+ cards. also personally i despise obelisk, wont question its placement since i know tons like it and use it but if it was my list that shit would go straight into booty cheeks

[vocal rose]

it is a weird joker to obtain

yes

[zealous zinc]

rarity does not matter

[vocal rose]

but that doesn't change the VALUE of it when you get it

[cosmic sun]

I mean, to get it you have to have a good early multer die

A very commonly picked joker

[safe fractal]

i see, makes sense

[zealous zinc]

its +15 mult, and you probably want scaling +mult when you see it anyways

and most of those start comparing to gros in like a few rounds

• imho if i pick gros im picking it up with the intent to have it expire anyways

[cosmic sun]

The issue to me is kinda just Gros not dying

[vocal rose]

yeah the 1/6 feels like a fucking 1/20

[zealous zinc]

yea that is the worst

[vocal rose]

gamblers fallacy but still

[cosmic sun]

Is it more conditional than glass? idk

[vocal rose]

kind of a weird question since

you do need to find the glass

[cosmic sun]

Unbreaking banana vs unbreaking glass

type shit

[vocal rose]

but the odds are better

[safe fractal]

eh, personally im the most unlucky man on earth so i dont really worry about it but also an early oops all 6s can help get rid of it

[vocal rose]

but banana is just

always a chance per round but

worse chance

[vocal rose]

this is true

[zealous zinc]

always take the speculative oa6

[safe fractal]

i know someone who lost cavendish 2 rounds into getting it. he thought it was terrible for ages after that

so perhaps im 2nd to him in unluckyness

[cosmic sun]

Honestly if you lose like that it was destiny

And a war story

[safe fractal]

anyway, top 3 biggest hopes for new update is rebait nerf

[cosmic sun]

Imagine being on your 29th GS win or something and just before you win again, Cavendihh dies

[safe fractal]

faceless joker isnt even a bad card but rebait is so good there is no scenario when you dont take rebait over faceless which makes it look awful

[serene forge]

baron
"i want trib"

[cosmic sun]

diamond miner digs up diamonds but walks away

[serene forge]

also they used an ecto on fucking golden ticket 😭

[zealous zinc]

this is almost good but so bad

what did he sell for it

like lwk why would you want trib even

[serene forge]

smartest face card player fr

[zealous zinc]

in this kind of build you would probably want perkeo maybe but thats also situational based on vouchers and what ante you are at (ideally you get it far earlier than you do here)

this is a certified skip the soul moment

[unborn cliff]

blueprint f tier

[serene forge]

chicken nuggets is absolutely the best thing here because photochad and baron are contradictory and having chicklets means you can maybe do manacle bug later

[unborn cliff]

yo, rick!

[zealous zinc]

meh

yorick isnt offering much additional scoring

[wary zodiac]

fair enough

[unborn cliff]

rick is ALWAYS good.

[zealous zinc]

oh wait yea

[ancient gyro]

someone got slandered again

[zealous zinc]

i didnt even see he had photograph

sell the fucking photograph 😭

[cosmic sun]

balatro player that only knows baron and photochad are good: "why would I do that"

If I have trouble sleeping tonight imma explain endless in my head

[zealous zinc]

i love idol 🤤

i want idol buff next update 🤤

[serene forge]

Shack

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[simple jacinth]

dagger, steel, troub and onyx to go

[ancient gyro]

I'll do you one better

[simple jacinth]

Ngl I kinda hate these last four, except onyx

I can see an onyx build looking good but it'll be a struggle to get the others stickered again

[zealous zinc]

arlo literally just said this about dgrat

[placid ridge]

yeah, I lost that run. Should've tried it. And then maybe try to create a ton of aces to be able to put face cards into hands.

[zealous zinc]

dagger aint too bad its just delicate

[placid ridge]

current run. +19 on RTB

[ancient gyro]

my run was immune to ace tech unfortunately

[simple jacinth]

it's probably the hardest mult scaler to use imo

and not just because you can stab yourself with it

[ancient gyro]

um

i can kinda get behind that

[zealous zinc]

yea thats fair

[supple yarrow]

yooo wassup

[simple jacinth]

I think you need seriously good econ to feed it enough

[zealous zinc]

but imho i would rather have a dagger than grimbo 🤢

idc if grimbo is better

i hate it

[simple jacinth]

it benefits from being padded out with another mult joker like half or gros michel

[zealous zinc]

mesmerizier

[simple jacinth]

I'd rather have grimbo

[ancient gyro]

dagger is the least econ demanding of the non hand mult scalers

[supple yarrow]

feed grimbo to the dagger

[willow frost]

elite reference

[serene forge]

I hate Swashbuckler

[simple jacinth]

see the trouble is if you only feed it rentals then it's only going up by +2 a round

[supple yarrow]

they should make dagger take the mult of jokers it eats

/j

[safe ibex]

Dagger is extremely difficult to use effectively

[ancient gyro]

💭

[willow frost]

yes

[safe ibex]

your econ needs to be phenomenal

[willow frost]

stealing x30 mult from lucky cat

[supple yarrow]

lmao

[simple jacinth]

oh I started this discussion and immediately forgot that

[ancient gyro]

no lol just feed it rentals or even dollar joker cost

[simple jacinth]

I took rental egg and the only temperance I got with it was $10

[safe ibex]

and more than that it requires an empty joker slot
you’re playing on painted deck for a glorified red card

[simple jacinth]

like right after I bought it

still won the run

[final garden]

do i take planet tycoon here?

constellation is 5x

[safe ibex]

Then it won’t scale properly

[simple jacinth]

probably not

[serene forge]

most useful joker stencil

[simple jacinth]

you don't need to scale constellation much more

[safe ibex]

Nah I think you’re fine

[final garden]

fair enough

[serene forge]

1 dollar for 2 mult

[supple yarrow]

earlier i had a run with blueprint, brainstorm like ante 3 copying a + 7 supernova on flush 💔

[safe ibex]

you’ll kill your econ

[safe ibex]

1 dollar and a joker slot, you mean

[supple yarrow]

waste of a seed

[final garden]

do you not see the perkeo and temperance?

im getting 24 dollars and 2 temperances

[ancient gyro]

it will

[final garden]

my econ is fine

[serene forge]

so what

[safe ibex]

I didn’t say it’s unusable, I said it’s difficult

[ancient gyro]

which you'll have early game when it's useful

[supple yarrow]

can you feed dagger to dagger?

[serene forge]

you don't feed the dagger once it's high enough and can use the other slots

[safe ibex]

Econ is so important early game

[final garden]

yes but mult doesnt transfer over

[serene forge]

you're not having 5 endgame jokers in ante 2 lol

[safe ibex]

although tbf I am the ultimate red card defender so idk

[supple yarrow]

sadly

[safe ibex]

I forgor

[ancient gyro]

mhm and french dagger is the most econ friendly early via non hand scaling mult

[safe ibex]

I still wouldn’t take it

[willow frost]

french dagger?

[safe ibex]

I mean like yeah, fair enough

also French??

[ancient gyro]

dw bout it

[zealous zinc]

thats why u feed it rentals

[willow frost]

what is happening

[safe ibex]

Okay okay

Yeah I think I’m wrong

[primal dragon]

Hows your screen all stretched

[supple yarrow]

yo i need to do some more practice using purple stake erratic, anyone got any goals for me so im not just going flush aka the worst hand

[zealous zinc]

alien teto: gloorble

[safe ibex]

200 hours in Balatro and I’m still bad at it lmao

[zealous zinc]

goal is use pair

[ancient gyro]

rc is 4-6 dollars for 3 mult
dagger is 4-5 dollars for 4 mult
erm austism moment

[willow frost]

same, some people are just betterthan others lol

[ancient gyro]

folding phone

[safe ibex]

Okay well not quite

bc what are you spending your money on

you’re going to skip booster packs anyways because buying them is a good idea

[supple yarrow]

the whole point of me using erratic is to NOT RELY ON PAIR 😭

[safe ibex]

although I guess buying jokers is pretty good too

[zealous zinc]

goal is use 3oak

[ancient gyro]

wdym not quite, it's statistically that much money/mult conversion

I'm not gonna include econ opportunity via hermits/rebate, that's just too much overanalysis

[supple yarrow]

cool, i can get behind that, any joker reccomendations? ive only rlly played, flush, pair, flush 5 and straights before

[ancient gyro]

but yeah red card mogs in opportunity cost

outside of flat numbers

[zealous zinc]

i think you can play 3oak a lot like pairs

im ngl i just said that because its pairs + 1 card

i dont play them either 😭

[supple yarrow]

lmao fair

i mean i js need a bit of a goal rlly, ill be back when i win or at least GET ante 8

well, my laptop will be beside me im not rlly afk, js playing

[primal dragon]

Btw orbital tag changes on restarting game

[safe ibex]

I just said that it matters what the money is being spent on

[last geyser]

+4 gold stickers !

[safe ibex]

Also I already said I was wrong lol

it’s a good joker and I just have no clue how to use it
I’ll practice it

[primal dragon]

Any tips on gold stickers

Im struggling with ts

[supple yarrow]

3oak is so hard compared to pairs holy, i got a really bad erratic

well nvm i got perkeo i guess

[modern panther]

SyNeRgY pOg

[supple yarrow]

now to not die

[primal dragon]

That dude took over my whole shorts feed bro

He hits naneinf almost everytime

[modern panther]

Balatro is ragebaiting me, and I'm pissed to say that it's fucking working

[supple yarrow]

and ofc i die, rip

i hate blue joker so much

(literally only scoring joker in my budget)

[primal dragon]

Localthunk def added something to mess with the rng

“Spades are debuffed” and gives me the only 7 spades in my deck

[willow frost]

wait thats fire

[brave goblet]

you can tell when a suit boss appears when the shop is filled with suit specific jokers and suit changing tarots (for the upcoming debuffed suit)

[trim notch]

Free loyalty gold stake

Yoo this was so fun

[open fiber]

Negative 0 dollars refresh
Negative diamonds 3+ mult
Negative hearts 3+ mult
Negative 30+ chips for every discard
Negative 5+ chips added to every card once it scores
Negative 5 dollars if 3 or more figures are discarded at the same time
+77 mult pirate
10+ mult blueprint copying:
7X mult
3X mult every time you only have clovers and spades
3x mult if 16+ upgraded cards (active)

I hope its good enough 🥹

[modern panther]

HeY gUyS iTs FuLlY sYnErGiStIc!1!1

[wary zodiac]

damn

[modern panther]

Choices, choices...

[wary zodiac]

i think i saw both baron and photochad early

[last geyser]

Why does roffle bully his viewers so much 😭

[modern panther]

Unfortunately I die to Bo'le o wo'er

[wary zodiac]

chat is really stupid

[safe fractal]

Photograph should be changed to at least uncommon in the next update

[last geyser]

Yeah but even when they are right and he is wrong he still gets mad 😂

[wary zodiac]

it doesn't feel satisfying to build photochad, some rework should be made yeah

[trim notch]

Ciega pequeña

[wary zodiac]

he's been conditioned into a state of constant vigilance and frustration

💀

[trim notch]

Change ur pair lvl 20 for highcard lvl 1 photochad

[wary zodiac]

this is an amazing build holy

how do you unlock hit the road again 😭

[last geyser]

Silly roffle 🫠

[cosmic sun]

why should poop be uncommon

if anything chad would be hit

People just tell themselves x2 before joker scoring is good enough cause after getting photo they want to roll chad asap

[safe fractal]

because every single other xmult joker is uncommon or higher

photochad is the ONLY xmult that is common

[cosmic sun]

xmult before joker calculations

which is dookie without chad

[zealous zinc]

rate this build from arlo

[safe fractal]

doesnt matter, every single other xmult before jokers is also uncommon or higher

photochad is the only xmult joker that is common

[pale wolf]

and why do you think that is

[cosmic sun]

cause its cheeks

[safe fractal]

just makes more sense to standardise it with the rest of the set

[fleet anchor]

I might lose this run yall

[pale wolf]

lol no

[zealous zinc]

why

[pale wolf]

1. you're ignoring cavendish 2. rarity isnt about grouping sets together exactly

[cosmic sun]

I can't ever help but think this is just photochad bias

[tranquil steppe]

U can dew eeeeet

[zealous zinc]

what does making photograph uncommon do

[cosmic sun]

Photochad makes people think a certain way

[zealous zinc]

it doesnt fix anything at all

literally nothing

[ancient gyro]

it comes with more debuff tags 👅

[pale wolf]

photograph is fine as a common, and would be an incredibly underwhelming uncommon hit (already underwhelming as a common but thats how it is)

[cosmic sun]

Like you can't tell me people crutch photochad so hard that it changes their opinion on either joker

[safe fractal]

cavendish is special because you have to find gros michel, have it die then get cavendish so yeah i forgot cavendish but its not really common in anything but name

[fleet anchor]

Just gotta change everything to kings and queens lol gonna take forever, should I go for spades or hearts? Or just ignore that aspect

[zealous zinc]

this is like people in multiplayer saying to make idol rare, like that fixes the oppressive nature of the joker

[cosmic sun]

💀

[pale wolf]

oh wait its actually a photograph buff because it gets bbc value

[tranquil steppe]

You’ll be fine especially if you find Chad

[pale wolf]

@lunar zealot should they make photograph uncommon for bbc value

[zealous zinc]

for what value?

[safe fractal]

baseball card

[fleet anchor]

Fr tho

[zealous zinc]

baseball?

oh ok

[cosmic sun]

I feel like that would be really flavorful but my principles say hell no cause of photochad brainrot

[tranquil steppe]

As long as you get even just a couple extra kings or queens or thin your deck a little you should be good

[ancient gyro]

yeah just ignore the fact that it debunks your earlier statement and that you also misspelt photograph
#🕹・game-discussion message

[tranquil steppe]

Stuff like dusk and seltzer will help too

And obviously red seals

[fleet anchor]

..... welp boss blind killed me

[safe fractal]

photo being uncommon makes photochad feel more rewarding instead of the stupid easy to get combo it is rn.

[tranquil steppe]

Noooooooooo. What was the seed?

[pale wolf]

you need more reasoning than just to make it fit with other xmult because the other xmults are spread across 3 rarities still

[fleet anchor]

Only 1 hand

[tranquil steppe]

Needle. That bastard

[zealous zinc]

and again, what does making it uncommon do

[cosmic sun]

there are many ways to win even on gold stake

[zealous zinc]

theres no problem with the joker and if there was one making it uncommon isnt fixing that problem

[cosmic sun]

the quicker you stop putting photochad on a pedestal the better

[fleet anchor]

It had potential for orange stake

I just want the last deck 😭

[zealous zinc]

i think the chances of you getting cavendish and getting photochad are lwk equal if not favoring cavendish in any given run

so

[safe fractal]

doesnt at all, i forgot about 1 single card that despite being called a common it in no way acts like it in terms of how rare it is to get.

also of all people i'd assume the person with a name in a foreign language would understand that english isnt everyones first language, people go after spelling when they have no other argument to make.

[ancient gyro]

making idol common or rebate rare doesn't change my decision making on how I perceive the strength of the joker

[safe fractal]

💀 no

[zealous zinc]

^^^^^^

[zealous zinc]

yes

[ancient gyro]

what

[zealous zinc]

because you never pick up photo on its own

[cosmic sun]

x2 before joker scoring is shit alone and you can't convince me that you don't just take photo solely to get chad

[twin lantern]

Ddddd

[pale wolf]

the issue is that photograph isnt this must-take item already, chad is much closer to that side of the equation

[zealous zinc]

if photo was good on its own then i would say caven <<< photochad

[pale wolf]

but chad is versatile enough that its okay too

[zealous zinc]

in terms of like how often you build into it

[pale wolf]

imo neither needs a change

[zealous zinc]

but at the end of the day for caven you need to find gros first, and for photochad u need to find chad first

[ancient gyro]

ballot at its worst can just be multiplayer ballot

[zealous zinc]

on gold stake especially you just never are taking photograph naked

[cosmic sun]

now gros michel

[terse dock]

If you think about it Chad is the highwayman

[ancient gyro]

the true pair jorker

[cosmic sun]

a lot more tangible

[pale wolf]

idk i dont like mp chad

i flip flop on it

[ancient gyro]

you have a weird obsession with that card

from my history

[cosmic sun]

I'm neutral on a chad nerf

[pale wolf]

we already have spread thin retriggers for literally every single other retrigger joker

[ancient gyro]

im also neutral

[pale wolf]

chad doubling up is neat

[strange panther]

new highscore woohoo!!!!!!

[ancient gyro]

mostly cause I don't really use it as often as your average lobotomizer

[strange panther]

finally got idol this ante

[pale wolf]

im not obsessed its just strong

and fun

[cosmic sun]

On one hand chad has great synergies, on another hand I would get a shit eating grin from the discourse that would spawn from photochad hell

[pale wolf]

and common

so it shows up a lot

[cosmic sun]

Would r/balatro erupt

[pale wolf]

they should make baron common

[ancient gyro]

is it healthy

[pale wolf]

yea its nutritious

[supple yarrow]

nooooo i lose on ante 7 to the eye, i thought 3oak would scale enough to outdo pair in that scenario 💔

well whatever, good enough for me considering its just glorified pairs, what should my next goal/hand to use be

[cosmic sun]

its like an upstanding citizen who harbors a useless gremlin out of the kindness of his heart and the gremlin takes advantage of their kindness

[modest snow]

is this with observatory?

[ancient gyro]

once thunk fixes the + and x mult timing for editions ill be open for this change at the time stm gets indirectly buffed

[strange panther]

ye

im still going tho

[modest snow]

get red seal glass

[strange panther]

but shot up 30 es with idol

[pale wolf]

what do editions have to do with this

[modest snow]

i feel like you can get alot more score

[strange panther]

i am aware of how to improve score

i am not seeking help

[supple yarrow]

now that i think about it my highscore was probably like an e20 photochad

[ancient gyro]

I just remembered the holographic glass timing and just applied this logic to stm buff

[pale wolf]

but editions dont held in hand :(

i dont think they're hopping phases of scoring

[supple yarrow]

we need a held in hand edition fr

[junior horizon]

Guyd

[pale wolf]

a money held in hand edition :^)

[junior horizon]

Pain

[pale wolf]

Glitter Cards

[ancient gyro]

(upon speculation) since I'll be happy with stm reprint and mult timing when I beg tomorrow, I'll accept baron frequency changes

[supple yarrow]

that on ante 4 is mental btw

[strange panther]

omg it should be like silver cards or something like a silver dollar woag

[junior horizon]

Wtf do i do

[tranquil steppe]

You got this!!

[lost vault]

how would that work on Jonklers

[junior horizon]

Do i just hope for another baron later

[strange panther]

ask the cryptid devs lmao

[supple yarrow]

if only i could make mods(i have no coding skills and no balala on pc)

[pale wolf]

it has to be something that can be depicted as a "coating" (via shader) on the card

[lost vault]

in cryptid gold edition is on score

not held in hand

[terse dock]

Weaker Golden Joker

[tranquil steppe]

Do I take the soul?

[pale wolf]

enhancements are the card material, editions are coatings applied to the card, and seals are stickers on top of that

[strange panther]

i was speaking in jest (gold cards, playing the oblivious fool)

[pale wolf]

aah

[lost vault]

theyre more like stamps

[compact gazelle]

rtb photo :3

[lost vault]

seals i mean

[tranquil steppe]

And do I skip for the lolz?

[stark karma]

my last 11 C++ jokers lmao

[terse dock]

The seals are seals

[terse dock]

What's wrong with rocket

[compact gazelle]

rocket :(

[stark karma]

nothing wrong

just never got it all the way I guess

[tranquil steppe]

I just got golden ticket myself

[sly bolt]

rocket is cool

[terse dock]

I ser

See

[compact gazelle]

someone keeps selling econ jokers in endgame

[stark karma]

wait maybe I've gotten rocket and I forgot

[strange panther]

does mime work with observatory or no

[stark karma]

no

[sly bolt]

no

[stark karma]

why would it lmao

[supple yarrow]

real quick whats a good way to practice since i feel like purple stake erratic is just too reset heavy

[strange panther]

figured not

[pale wolf]

if you judge by red seal then they're wax seals but the first seal type was gold, which come from i think just straight gold foil pounded onto paper

[stark karma]

"does dice work with showman"

[strange panther]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sly bolt]

omg is that hatsune miku

[pale wolf]

hi sleepery er eep

[terse dock]

Only 5 jokers dont work with showman

[sly bolt]

sup zeb

[pale wolf]

what

[strange panther]

thats an entirely different semantic tho

[supple yarrow]

.

[pale wolf]

every joker "works" with showman

except gros when cavendish and vice versa

[terse dock]

Delayed Gratification

[pale wolf]

ye

[tranquil steppe]

Is arse

[compact gazelle]

do runs
any runs
all practice is good practice :3

[terse dock]

:3

[shell dagger]

lmao

nice xmult

[tranquil steppe]

Mistaaaaaaaa bones!!!!

[compact gazelle]

fortune teller

[supple yarrow]

i know i know but i mean like specific practice for a.... worse player like me

[shell dagger]

scales so slowly when u need it

[compact gazelle]

random decks is nice for practice

[tranquil steppe]

Is GOATED fr fr no cap straight bussin ong SKIBIDI RIZZ

[shell dagger]

it got to +80 bc i had like 10 purple seals

[ancient gyro]

balatro without the stimulation

[supple yarrow]

eh??

[compact gazelle]

tellers bad but I don’t care it’s fun
give me +120 or give me death

[strange panther]

this run im on still has 2 hand size vouchers to get and i picked up a random ass baron

[compact gazelle]

ive seen it suggested to be +2 per and uh
no complaints here! :3

[shell dagger]

stm ahh build

[ancient gyro]

fr

[pale wolf]

vagabond stm mime game where you got extremely unlucky with gold cards and death draws

final answer

[ancient gyro]

someone is gonna get shot tonight

[shell dagger]

smeared joker in the judgement

or 4f

[pale wolf]

smeared in

[strange panther]

whats the e number for naneinf

[shell dagger]

308

[ancient gyro]

i had every other suit tarot the round before btw lol

[pale wolf]

e is scientific notation that means times 10 to the power of

x10^

[strange panther]

i know

[supple yarrow]

but- there is no random decks option-

[pale wolf]

me too

[strange panther]

ok?

[pale wolf]

which is a travesty

[compact gazelle]

pick whatever :3

random deck and random stakes should be an option though

[pale wolf]

this typa game NEEDS a shuffular button

[terse dock]

Red Deck

[shell dagger]

308 may seem arbitrary but 2^1024 roughly = 1.8e308

[pale wolf]

it wasnt exactly chosen

[pale wolf]

oof

[supple yarrow]

fr

[compact gazelle]

was that autocorrect’s doing

[terse dock]

yeah

[supple yarrow]

yo spin me up a stake rq too fr

[pale wolf]

ok

[compact gazelle]

red s

[modern panther]

Discard 5 jacks at once

[supple yarrow]

wheel

where

[pale wolf]

google

[supple yarrow]

it looks so high quality

[devout reef]

This challenge is fun with matador

So much money for my campfire

[pale wolf]

https://wordwall.net/resource/69187352/random-balatro-deck-picker

[lunar zealot]

No

[supple yarrow]

do u know one for stakes too

[pale wolf]

again, google

same as me

[terse dock]

White

[supple yarrow]

vro im dumb 💔

im not doing red deck white stake btw, im js gonna spin myself

u got the 1 curse

[sly bolt]

scribbly

[strange panther]

place your bets

[sly bolt]

the scribbly

[supple yarrow]

its gonna be brainstorm

[strange panther]

the brian?

[pale wolf]

lo

[sly bolt]

the scribbly

[strange panther]

which one is the scribbly

[terse dock]

the scribbly

[strange panther]

is it brian

[sly bolt]

the scribbly

[terse dock]

Crack

[strange panther]

well sucks to be you (and me) cause it was sock

[sly bolt]

at least you have a pair of socks now

good for you

[wintry ice]

hi restless

[sly bolt]

sup vic

[terse dock]

Four men suck and busting

[pale wolf]

stake spinner pointless only gold stake exists 😎

[sly bolt]

that's so true I agree

[ancient gyro]

ante spinner

[trim notch]

Do u get naneinf earlier on gold stake??

i mean like

Instead of ante 39

[strange panther]

well it isnt ideal but sock on a flush five with idol and 3 copies is an extra 2^20 which is nice i guess

[sly bolt]

no

[ancient gyro]

why did I get an amber alert from a state 4 hours away from where I live

[terse dock]

A x4 does nothing past ante 14

[trim notch]

maybe is it you is it me

[terse dock]

Do you live in New England

[trim notch]

🚼

[pale wolf]

were you there in the last 4 hours

[strange panther]

new new high score

[terse dock]

:u3172:

[strange panther]

idk how long ill keep goin cause it late and tire

[trim notch]

Four shore

[terse dock]

Die

In game

It's over

[pale wolf]

my checkered game is a square flash card game so far

ok now its a square banana game

[strange panther]

if i get some hand vouchers would be nice but wouldnt do much

[ancient gyro]

who knows where my dns privacy blocklist put me at

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[supple yarrow]

i physically couldnt find one for only stakes but i found a single one that does stakes nd decks and even seed if u want

[terse dock]

The kidnapper's router

[pale wolf]

ok the banana extincted frame 1

thats not good

[lost vault]

nyaaa~

[ancient gyro]

has anybody ever done a probability joker/consumable/boss/etc tier list

[pale wolf]

idk probably not

i just updated the wiki page for oops so it should have everything listed where it should be

[shell dagger]

wheel of fortune S tier 🤣

[lost vault]

whar

[trim notch]

Bor

[ancient gyro]

hehehehaw

[lost vault]

theres 1 probability boss

maybe 2

[pale wolf]

1

[lost vault]

(cheart)

[sly bolt]

8 ball is S tier tbh

[terse dock]

Mrrpp :33

[lost vault]

mrrreow :3c

[trim notch]

bludstone F tier

[ancient gyro]

3 (bell onies)

[lost vault]

diddybludstone

[trim notch]

What

[strange panther]

imma just speedrun the end of this no more farming just 1 hand per round and get points

[lost vault]

☠️

[vocal rose]

niche ah tierlist

[pale wolf]

theres only 1 listed chance you dont have to purchase one way or another to encounter and thats wheel boss

if you mean any rng at all thats different

[vocal rose]

also I made some tiny changes to my tierlist again

[sly bolt]

giraffe joker

[lost vault]

meh true

[trim notch]

Hi zoahl

[vocal rose]

@ancient gyro

[vocal rose]

hi

[vocal rose]

there’s one notable change

[lost vault]

im bating it

[ancient gyro]

yeah I saw this earlier

when I pinged u

[vocal rose]

wat

[vocal rose]

oh I’m slow

[lost vault]

rebate

[vocal rose]

rebating it

[strange panther]

yooo i hit e100

[lost vault]

bro hit a googol

[strange panther]

nah i bout to bing my score up

i be celebrating screaming yahoo

dont believe me ask my roommmate jeeves hes annoyed and is leaving

this is not optimal way to play this but am having fun and thats what counts

[shell dagger]

why’s scary face 2 tiers below todd

[lost vault]

maybe i should do that to make my roommate leave

[shell dagger]

but smiley above Steven

[lost vault]

he chews loudly and it pmo

[shell dagger]

surely the difference isn’t that big

[strange panther]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-3lpZJYtmA

[pale wolf]

tbh raised fist pivot

[ancient gyro]

put aj lower out of spite

[terse dock]

Dude thats 5 chips on a better spread of cards

[lost vault]

maybe my roommate will be scared away when my maid outfit gets here

[terse dock]

The right chip in the wrong place can make all the difference

[terse dock]

Is your roommate another twink or

[lost vault]

nah

[vocal rose]

oh I have scary in C tier?

that def slipped

[lost vault]

hes not a homo gay i dont think

[vocal rose]

it isn’t

[analog mulch]

BRO WHY ARE MY JUDGEMENTS GOATED

[terse dock]

W riff raff

[trim notch]

The options button

[vocal rose]

and steven in C tier??

[trim notch]

Xd

[vocal rose]

tf am I doing

[trim notch]

odd

[vocal rose]

todd

[terse dock]

prime

[ancient gyro]

thanks for pointing that out now I'm angry

[vocal rose]

this will be fixed when I get home

[vocal rose]

im upset at myself

scary and steven at C tier is bad

[ancient gyro]

and the suits not in order i

[lost vault]

they should add a prime numbers joker
does something with A 2 3 5 7

wait no

it would be

2 3 5 7

[vocal rose]

yes

[shell dagger]

+57 chips if played hand contains a prime number of prime rank cards

[vocal rose]

two twos

[strange panther]

is 23 prime

[vocal rose]

with wee

[shell dagger]

ye

[vocal rose]

yes

[lost vault]

i think so

[strange panther]

its 1am im tired

ty

use that number

[lost vault]

hehehee wanna know something funny

[strange panther]

for prime joker

23 of diamonds

[lost vault]

guess what the 19th prime number is

hehehe

[strange panther]

21

[shell dagger]

57 is iconic though

[pale wolf]

two jokers already use the number 23

[vocal rose]

23 discards

[lost vault]

67

[pale wolf]

do you know what they are?

[shell dagger]

if you didn’t know, some famous mathematician accidentally claimed 57 was prime during some talk

[strange panther]

is it 2 and 3

[lost vault]

21 is not prime gng

[terse dock]

67

67

[pale wolf]

no.

[lost vault]

3*7

[terse dock]

67

[terse dock]

7*3

[shell dagger]

10.5*2

[strange panther]

okay

ante 26

got serpent

[lost vault]

bu that logic 2 is prime

[strange panther]

i shall discard for some extra steel in hand

[lost vault]

wait

[shell dagger]

is naneinf prime 🤔

[lost vault]

idntbprime

[strange panther]

then i will call it

[pale wolf]

its yorick and misprint btw

[civic sand]

Idol throwing dusk where is my dusk

[lost vault]

uhhhhhhh undeterminable

[pale wolf]

i'd be willing to bet its divisible by 2

[civic sand]

Copying sock was probably a misplay

[shell dagger]

the prime factorisation is roughly 2^1024 methonks

[ancient gyro]

so it's even 👅

[terse dock]

(9*10)/4.285

[ancient gyro]

allegedly

[pale wolf]

im

[terse dock]

Its composite with 9.73e307 and 67

[lost vault]

meow ! meow

[terse dock]

Mrrp :3

:4

:5

[strange panther]

its go time

[lost vault]

:3

:5

:67

[terse dock]

:8

wait thats freddy fazbear

[shell dagger]

o7

[lost vault]

:7

[terse dock]

:10

fat fuck

[strange panther]

o7

[lost vault]

all these steel kings
and you're running.
idol.

???

[strange panther]

that is a good place to call it a night

[lost vault]

yuuuge

[strange panther]

^^^^^^

[lost vault]

yes true

[strange panther]

literally dont care l + ratio im winner

[lost vault]

but

[strange panther]

and its eepy time

[lost vault]

no ur a weiner

grrr

[terse dock]

endless isnt fun though

Fibonacci is fun

[lost vault]

okay fun police

[strange panther]

i enjoyed this

[lost vault]

your WILL have fun how I say so

:(

step 1

vagabond

🤤

[strange panther]

highest i went before with baron mime build was like ante 18 or something

idk i posted it here check my history

so thisis a good

i am hapi

i could have probably gotten a much higher score if i cared to

but i am winer

[analog mulch]

This is why -1 discard sucks

[strange panther]

uwu

[lost vault]

weiner

hehehe

[strange panther]

i am sausage

i want a glizzy

its 1am

[lost vault]

yummy

[strange panther]

:(

[lost vault]

mentoo

me

me too

meow

[strange panther]

men too want a glizzy

[lost vault]

i want to

[strange panther]

men crave the glizzy

[lost vault]

gobble

[strange panther]

you know that meme of goats licking salt

[lost vault]

the glizzo

uhhhhhhh

[strange panther]

that but frat boys and glizzy

[lost vault]

i aint no frat boi

just a kitry

[strange panther]

crave that mineral

[analog mulch]

W riff Raff lol

[lost vault]

i will own something abd still be unhapoy

[lost vault]

w raffy ❤️‍🩹

[lost vault]

is pickle

[oblique ermine]

having your last joker for C++ be uncommon and already difficult to use at points is becoming really agonizing

(god DAMN you Four Fingers)

[tranquil steppe]

Ho ho ho twas well worth the risk. This will be fun

How high do we think this will go

Gotta get me some cheddar first before I go kaboomboom

The answer was 240mil lol

So I hear ya likez vouchazzzz

[terse dock]

I see magic trick

No i dont

That's grabber

Petro, grabber, money tree, retcon, blank, telescope, tarot merchant

[dreamy creek]

i love bloodstone

[static fern]

Yo lwk, Brainstorm and Blueprint on a same deck it satisfies me so much

[vocal rose]

it’s good

but skipping 😬

[pale wolf]

for that double money econ tag ofc

[vocal rose]

1 to 2 dollars

[sour acorn]

Hey guys i have a question i have a build of 2 barons and 1 raise fist and i’ll play a hand that will leave all kings on my hand. I naturally want raise fist to trigger first but since they are all kings idk which will trigger first. Is it suit based which will trigger first? If so which suit triggers first?

[ancient gyro]

emperor is ante based wtf 💔

my hermits

they're gone

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[pale wolf]

hi thunk

[pale wolf]

its based on the order of the cards from left to right

[serene forge]

balatrodle in 2

[pale wolf]

because raised fist and baron are in the same phase of scoring

[serene forge]

I hate Baron

[sour acorn]

So i can’t make raised fist trigger first if the lowest rank is a king?

[hybrid tendon]

balatrodle in 4

[ancient gyro]

nope, it triggers rightmost card for equal ranks

[heady narwhal]

it's always the rightmost card of the lowest rank iirc

[pale wolf]

nope, raised fist always chooses the rightmost of the lowest rank in hand no matter the ordering