🕹・game-discussion

[frozen tendon]

i mean, you def take both, right?

unless you can win without ancient

but +57 doesn't beat photo chad

also, when going for naneinf baron mime. should i reroll serpant if i get it early? or can you reroll boss blinds you've already beaten? i don't think that's how it works though

think i got it ante 12 when i scored e74 in the ss.

[acoustic kettle]

Rerolling serpent is taking it out the pool

You can reroll to it again but you need retcon and a lot of money

[frozen tendon]

dumb that down for me please

i thought you had to beat every boss blind before rerolls let you repeat them, is that false? i mainly play multiplayer so i'm not too experienced with high score runs.

[acoustic kettle]

Hmm

Idk actually

I never went for naneinf

[frozen tendon]

also, is it just pure rng?

[acoustic kettle]

[frozen tendon]

rerolling

[fervent wolf]

Rerolling counts as beating them

[acoustic kettle]

Oh yeah

So uh

You need to reroll every single boss left in the pool

Before you can get it again

[frozen tendon]

and how many boss blinds are there?

34? that number sounds familiar

[acoustic kettle]

Idk how many

You can check in game

[frozen tendon]

yeah i just checked, 31

sigh. i'll try again later. just want naneinf once, when i'm two hours into a run i lose focus and die 😭

should've done a test hand

Also, @fervent wolf with a full hand of steel, does 2 mimes and 4 barons (as in like 2bps copying baron, 1 brainstorm) score naneinf?

or do i need to pop an ecto for a 5th baron?

[fervent wolf]

Use a balatro calculator

[acoustic kettle]

Depends on a lot of things

[acoustic kettle]

It's not

You need more than a normal handsize

[frozen tendon]

i thought that's what the serpant was for

[acoustic kettle]

Well serpent is not normal is it

[arctic lion]

Hi guys

[glossy forge]

I died :)

[acoustic kettle]

For serpent you need your whole deck

[frozen tendon]

i thought that was every naneinf run minus perkeo cryptid

[acoustic kettle]

So uh

Burglar is mandatory

[frozen tendon]

doesn't burger just give you more hands?

or no

[acoustic kettle]

Well yes

[frozen tendon]

oh but yeah

serpant

[acoustic kettle]

Serpent draws three per hand played

So with those burglar hamds you draw from your deck

[frozen tendon]

okay i see, i believe it is 4 bps 1 baron 1 mime 1 burglar

[autumn sphinx]

What is the counter play to eye...

[frozen tendon]

beat it in one, duh

[acoustic kettle]

Mult and chips jokers that are not tied to specific hands

[silk cobalt]

Hhhhhmmm kinda need to have planet card investments on other hands I think...

[autumn sphinx]

You mean i have to play not flushes

Urrgh...

[silk cobalt]

If u alr played flushes.... yes XD

[frozen tendon]

or you play stronger hands that scale fast and beat it in one

[weak relic]

Hmm first game and win in a challenge

[solemn sonnet]

i love marble joker

[fervent wolf]

Thy server has restored activity since thy moon fall and thy sun rose

[solemn sonnet]

fuck you showman

and then a photograph showed up one shop later bruh

[wintry ice]

showman moment

[distant thunder]

First time when i get happy i see the plant 🥹

[gloomy vigil]

I got more questions

are there any unlocks that I should prioritise

[latent egret]

brainstorm

is the only really game changing one

[gloomy vigil]

how do I I unlock

[latent egret]

discard a royal flush

ie A K Q J 10 of a same suit

[gloomy vigil]

I havent even played a royal flush yet lmfao

[latent egret]

when you see one discard it

it is gonna happen

you just have to remember

[dapper belfry]

you can try destroying all lower rank cards

as if you we're playing a straight

which is prob what u should be doing if you're playing straights

or using a ton of dna/death

[weak relic]

Mad world but I didn't really go insane

[wintry ice]

that's mad

[marsh dove]

lucky card carry 🗣️ 🔥🔥🔥

[calm furnace]

imagine if we lived in a world were flushes scale and can be used with blue seals

[marsh dove]

taking and hexing a madness is fire

how often does that kill you

[calm furnace]

rarely

if that madness wad eternal

[marsh dove]

interesting

[calm furnace]

i could get away with playing high card

because i found 5 ankhs

[marsh dove]

that wouldve been insane

[marsh dove]

most of any joker ive had is 5 eternal polychrome orders

[distant thunder]

so ummmm

[marsh dove]

lvl 1 pair 💀

[marsh dove]

are you asking what to sell

[distant thunder]

yep

[calm furnace]

i was in debt the etire run

beofre the ankhs i managed to affor eternal half joker and thats it

[distant thunder]

lucky 5's going into glass

[marsh dove]

what are your planets

hand level

[distant thunder]

three of a kind and four kind lvl 3

lvl 5 flush five

[marsh dove]

i think its fib here

[calm furnace]

madness is insane (pun intended)

[versed path]

Who are you bro

[edgy ivy]

Someone whose making friends, clearly

[versed path]

Oh

Well i could of inferred that

[calm furnace]

early eternal madness or stencil on ghost deck is a guaranteed victory 99% of the time

[edgy ivy]

So could I
We so similar
Look at that, I'm already making friends

[versed path]

I see

[fervent quarry]

Finally...I've been trying to create a setup around that damn cat for a while.

[edgy ivy]

So can i!!!

[versed path]

Okay bro 😭

[edgy ivy]

You had to try to get a lucky car build online?

[versed path]

Lucky car

[fervent quarry]

Unseeded.

[edgy ivy]

You see? We're already so close you're referring to me as a brother 🥹

[floral pier]

I apologize if this is not the correct channel. I purchased the Balatro game on the Android Play Store, but now on a relatively new device (Ayaneo Konkr Pocket Fit game console), the game cannot be installed because the device does not seem to be compatible. How can I install it via the official apk? Thanks! p.s. My Google account is already 18y verified.

[edgy ivy]

I think this is my last lucky car run
I don't even remember anymore fr
This was infact my last lucky run
But it's not of gameplay it seems😔

[edgy ivy]

Honestly, if you already bought it I'd just say download it 3rd party if the official method isn't working
Id say my opinion might be controversial but you did indeed buy it in some form

[floral pier]

I agree with you, I would like to avoid dirty methods. I would also like to be able to log in to track progress and get the latest version. Is there a vanilla apk that can verify this?

[queen dock]

I breathed too many refrigerators.

It's -22 degrees Celsius out here

[pale wolf]

if the device is not compatible, it doesn't seem like there would be a way to install it legitimately.

[robust pawn]

What should I take

High card and flush lvl8

[pale wolf]

if you had bought it/ looked at it on the device you were going to install it on, it would probably warn you

[pearl moss]

3 new gold sticker

was able to generate enough income to consistently sell stuff

[edgy ivy]

Never a time where you don't grab bp

[pearl moss]

i gotta say

i hate VV

almost died to it

that wild queen help with idol

[edgy ivy]

I also hate virulent vulgarity 😔👍

[pearl moss]

finally i have no more annoying joker to clear

i can now clear with ease

soda joker is done

[robust pawn]

True

[pearl moss]

14 left

also didnt realize campfire can take effect if you sell tarot or planet cards

so it help

[green apex]

this is a sign

[pearl moss]

get lucky

[hazy flame]

perishable sticker for emotional support I guess

[pearl moss]

be sure to put oops beside the blueprint

[distant thunder]

running an oops al 6 flush five glass run

the breaking sound of glass will give me flashbacks

[green apex]

love it

[green apex]

definitely

really helps

!!!

[pearl moss]

and have the brainstorm on chad

[green apex]

if only if only....

[green apex]

eternal oops?

[distant thunder]

no but i have bloodstone so numbers go brr

[calm furnace]

would you look at this another venus sweep

[wintry ice]

been a while since i got a 3oak run

[calm furnace]

always turn all your cards to 9s and jacks

cloud 9 and htr ate cluth af

[green apex]

never got a 3oak run 👀

[pale wolf]

cards

lol

any card you can sell

[pearl moss]

yep

i got real lucky on generating money above 50

so it help in rerolling and selling trash

[torpid bridge]

Did anyone make glass joker work?

[pearl moss]

yeah

just have a lot glass

[torpid bridge]

I want to play glass joker

But somehow

My glass never breaks

When i get them

[pearl moss]

but for real, its pretty good

[torpid bridge]

It must be a jinx

[rancid niche]

Treat it like Canio

Kill your glass cards manually

[torpid bridge]

In the sense that you cant find any hanged man to hang kings?

😭

[rancid niche]

Kek yes

Kinda sucks when that happens

[torpid bridge]

Balatro more like balatroll to me

[pearl moss]

you can trigger it by destroying it manually right

if it helps, you can use the trading card joker to destroy any card

[pale wolf]

yea hangman works for glass joker, not spectrals though

likely an oversight

[rancid niche]

Well idk if that's easier than tarots

[calm furnace]

such a stronc easy and consistent hand

[pale wolf]

if you have it, 100%

[rancid niche]

Yeah but finding it is the hard part

[calm furnace]

glass joker would be 10000x better if spectrals counted for it

[pale wolf]

no o

what

lmfao

[rancid niche]

I didn't know spectrals didn't work

[calm furnace]

they work for canio but not glass

[pale wolf]

I literally just said it

[calm furnace]

idk why

[rancid niche]

You mean incantation, immolate, familiar. grim?

[torpid bridge]

Is that a bug?

[calm furnace]

none of them count

[rancid niche]

I didn't notice

[calm furnace]

if they destroy a glass card

[pale wolf]

It's not a bug because it's simply not coded in, it's an oversight

[calm furnace]

bugs are coding oversights

[pale wolf]

bugs are coding errors where the code isn't functioning properly, oversight is just forgetting to add something

Like if an options menu didn't have a way to exit back, that's not a bug that's oversight

[rancid niche]

I never really got an issue trying to make glass joker work

[calm furnace]

very rng

[rancid niche]

I just make a bunch of glass, eventually it will break

[torpid bridge]

Im just unlucky ig

[calm furnace]

still a decent joker

[torpid bridge]

Im jinxed

[pale wolf]

glass joker scales very quickly

[torpid bridge]

Everytime i get it

[rancid niche]

Yeah

[calm furnace]

its almost a canio

[torpid bridge]

😭

[rancid niche]

Uncommon Canio

[torpid bridge]

I just want to play glass joker

I once had a big cat

A big steel joker

[pale wolf]

if you have value generation then gloker steamrolls, for some reason i never seem to get him though

[torpid bridge]

But have never had a single run with glass

[calm furnace]

if you have bunch of glass cards, finding a chad is hella nice for a glass joker build

glass breaks = profit

[rancid niche]

Lol I had Canio way more than having glass joker, and it's not because I don't pick it up

[calm furnace]

glass doesnt break = profit

[wintry ice]

glass joker is a more consistent but lower ceiling lucky cat

it's very good

[torpid bridge]

It just never worked for me

[pale wolf]

hmmmm

[fair sapphire]

crazy on ante 3

[calm furnace]

do you just make one glass card?

[rancid niche]

Nice

[torpid bridge]

I did

[rancid niche]

Btw I got C++

[calm furnace]

to get better odds you need as many glass as you can

[distant thunder]

after almost all my glass broke , i have a shop with idol and dna

i score big

idol hits a king of spades

nice run :D

[torpid bridge]

I couldnt make it work cuz no hangman found

[wintry ice]

if i find it on like ante 5 i'm just taking it because i've got it past 3x very consistently

[calm furnace]

like a 4oak of glass card is more likely to break one than not

[torpid bridge]

Glass does not break or break very few times

[wintry ice]

my luck with glass breaks is pretty good somehow

[torpid bridge]

No trading cards

[calm furnace]

glass alway breaks for me when i need the glass to clutch the next blind 😭

[torpid bridge]

Even with chad it scales so slowly

[pale wolf]

never thought of it that way

it scales faster but is lower ceiling interesting

[calm furnace]

its free 8x if it doesnt break

and 8x + 0.75x if it does

[rancid niche]

Yeah what sucks is having to rely on glass for scoring and not being able to make enough glass

[torpid bridge]

I want to play glass joker specifically

[wintry ice]

well chad doesn't increase the chance for glass to break

[torpid bridge]

Im not an optimal player

I just want to play around with jokers

[calm furnace]

yep its just make the glass not breaking benefitial

[torpid bridge]

Make niche builds work make me proud

[calm furnace]

chad + glass joker makes playing class cards a Win win scneario

[wintry ice]

me attempting to force htr every time i don't have bus

[rancid niche]

htr is fun

[green apex]

never had a run where i had red card till the end 😔

[torpid bridge]

Wtf is htr

[green apex]

hit the road

[rancid niche]

hit the road

[pale wolf]

glass joker isnt even a bad joker you take to use for a niche build, its just a legitimately good joker

[torpid bridge]

Why dont call it jack

Jack hit the road

[pale wolf]

pls fix the quo

[wintry ice]

because jacks are already a rank

[calm furnace]

there is not bad xmult other than mr throwback

[pale wolf]

baron? idol?

[rancid niche]

it's a reference btw

[pale wolf]

htr is next up tho or photo

[calm furnace]

there are on score/held in hand

[rancid niche]

a classic song called hit the road jack

[torpid bridge]

I know that

[pale wolf]

?? you said xmult

[wintry ice]

i'd say i prefer htr over photo

[pale wolf]

they are xmult

[wintry ice]

it's more general use

[calm furnace]

yeah as in xmult jokers that are not on score

[calm furnace]

me too

[pale wolf]

0 sense

[vocal rose]

yes there are

[rancid niche]

htr doesn't need another joker to make it better, while photo without a chad is like playing a glass card

[pale wolf]

htr is close to being not good id say but i think its still strong

[vocal rose]

photograph (by itself) baron idol

[pale wolf]

they clarified that obviously xmult doesn't mean onscore or held in hand xmult

[wintry ice]

i'm sure it's gonna be strong post-blue stake rework anyways

[pale wolf]

🦓

[vocal rose]

how does that work

[pale wolf]

no clue

[vocal rose]

🦓

[calm furnace]

on score xmult is different than non on score xmult

its like they function different or smth

[vocal rose]

they’re all classified as x mult

[wintry ice]

you could have specified the type of xmult

[calm furnace]

i could

[pale wolf]

oh is bloodstone bad xmult

i forgor

[vocal rose]

oh yeah

[calm furnace]

bloodstone is bad in general fuck that joker

[rancid niche]

I hate bloodstone

[wintry ice]

throwback is an equivalent to a polychrome credit card

[vocal rose]

how could we forget that

[rancid niche]

I used it quite a bit

[calm furnace]

its so bad you dont even consider it xmult

[calm furnace]

idk why thunk nerfed it

[pale wolf]

so like, right above baron/throwback and below htr and photo

[rancid niche]

There are a few runs that allow me to skip and throwback comes in handy

[wintry ice]

throwback applying after scaling +mult jokers makes it see more use than bloodstone

[rancid niche]

That if I don't have any options for xmult

[torpid bridge]

I mean there was a run i won with throwback

[pale wolf]

throwback should have an entirely new effect next update honestly, skipping has nothing to do with a throwback anyways

[calm furnace]

its ok when you have an xmult already and that 1.5x or 2x adds up

but on its own its so bad

[rancid niche]

trust me I had a run where it was my only xmult option

[pale wolf]

and its effect wasnt always skipping it used to be a card drawing order joker

[wintry ice]

skipping is a huge cost for 0.25x mult

[pale wolf]

2x??

do not skip 4 times

[calm furnace]

if it was 0.5 it would be ok i tend to skip 2 blinds and getting 2x from that would be nice

[torpid bridge]

I mean making throwback work is quite fun

And worth flaunting

[calm furnace]

but 2 skips for what basically is a poly

hell nah

[lunar zealot]

making throwback x0.5 would just

be

[pale wolf]

thats probably too much skipping for an average run

[lunar zealot]

Shitty madness

[calm furnace]

it used to be 0.5x

[rancid niche]

Madness is so fun dude

[torpid bridge]

Its like a challenge

[pale wolf]

but maybe would be worth for throwback with rentals idea

[torpid bridge]

Skipping while maitaining winning potential

[rancid niche]

how many times did you make a build win with only madness?

[calm furnace]

is my fav build

[torpid bridge]

I think i had a 2 madness run

[pale wolf]

how about this

i dont think it seems that bad

[wintry ice]

me forcing my blue seals every round

[calm furnace]

and tbf unless you luck out on good eternals a lot of madness runs end up being centered around madness for score + planet cards

[rancid niche]

which is pretty good

[pale wolf]

yea its like, a high card joker at that point right

idk i want to play with that one

[calm furnace]

i love the gambling mini game of buying all jokers and hoping madness doesnt kill your flat mult

[wintry ice]

how did it work with dna and stuff

[rancid niche]

that's the worst play

[calm furnace]

sometimes you have to when madness is still not scaled

[rancid niche]

oh gnome

[wintry ice]

just remember that you can take non-eternal econ every third round

[torpid bridge]

My madness was x7.5

[pale wolf]

i suppose it would take like, the [handsize] leftmost cards (based on the sorting type you are currently using? or based on what it actually was at the time so you can control it?) in the case of overfilled hand size

[rancid niche]

or any joker that you need every third round

[lunar zealot]

i have some ideas for a throwback rework

one involves the skip blind thing it currently has and the other is something else revolving around the concept of a throwback

okay so

idea 1

x2 mult if a blind was skipped this ante

[calm furnace]

whats the max xmult a first shop madness can get at ante8

without the go back an ante vouchers

[torpid bridge]

[rancid niche]

I have an idea for a new spectral that no one ever commented on. Do you know when you buy a new pack of cards and it has two joker cards, a black one to count as any rank with a black suit and a red one that counts as any rank with a red suit?

So this spectral card would turn a card into one of these

[torpid bridge]

X8

It gets 0.5 per blind and not the boss blind right?

[calm furnace]

yeah no scaling with boss

[torpid bridge]

After ante 1 it is x2 then

[lunar zealot]

x1.5

you cannot get madness round 0

[torpid bridge]

Yeah

[calm furnace]

so 7.5x?

[terse vale]

if I don’t find Xmult its OVER

[rancid niche]

where chips

[terse vale]

i’m just playing big hands right now

[rancid niche]

you have a lot of mult options, stuntman could save you here

[terse vale]

and chips can be in planets too!

[terse vale]

I found a perishable one so i’ll just take it

[calm furnace]

banana will die next blind trust

[rancid niche]

you have good enough scaling?

[glossy forge]

Natural negative mime came in clutch with blue seals to feed late constellation. I was scrambling the whole run until I ran into him

[potent tree]

i can't recall how but i managed to get one to 10x by ante 8 boss once...even without hiero/petro it reached x8 somehow

[calm furnace]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[pale wolf]

multirank for some reason is something thunk does not want in the game

[terse vale]

lowkey I may take the foil

[terse vale]

i’d say so

[pale wolf]

well thats boring

[potent tree]

remember getting multiple michel doesn't mean you'll get multiple cavendish...but then again showman is eternal here so maybe you will

[rancid niche]

I see

[torpid bridge]

I think madness max value is x8.5 without go back

[pale wolf]

personally i think multirank in some capacity would be cool

your idea not bad

[torpid bridge]

After first ante its 1.5x

After ante 2 its 2.5

And so on

[potent tree]

wait yea...why am i not mathing

[pale wolf]

i've never heard of those cards in actual decks, unless you mean the two jokers

[potent tree]

must've skipped a number

[pale wolf]

huh

[rancid niche]

I do mean the two jokers

[pale wolf]

oh yea

[torpid bridge]

You cant get on shop 0

[rancid niche]

I've always liked the joker card in real playing cards

[pale wolf]

if madness counted the previous/current skipping situation then a charm tag judgement could do it

but it doesnt

cuz like, is the blind really fully skipped before you close the pack :^)

[torpid bridge]

Remember to copy showman

🤓

Where is brainstorm

Why is there only bp and mrbones

And jimbo and hiker

[potent tree]

is this bait chat

[torpid bridge]

But not brainstorm

[calm furnace]

i have double groker poly eternal ante 5 0 useful planet cards or chip jokers other than rental clever

rip

[native cape]

i have no multi, im screwed lmao

[calm furnace]

i haven no +chips and i must scream

[terse vale]

this is the setup

[calm furnace]

nvm banner clutch

[terse vale]

i’m fullskipping since I don’t want the baseball to perish

and I do have enough chips

[calm furnace]

we won

[terse vale]

its heart but I don’t thiiink it matters

[calm furnace]

banner mega clutched

[terse vale]

showman… being useful?

[calm furnace]

man i wanna lvoe banner more but 30 chips per discard aint it

[terse vale]

I could either pussy out and take bones

OR

DO IT THE COOL WAY

[calm furnace]

bones is the cool way

[terse vale]

actually no the only thing I can remove is blackboard and if I take baseball that would just be

less mult

oh ok hello again

[rancid niche]

brainstorm from a judgment

[calm furnace]

so bones stack?

[terse vale]

imagine

but I cant cus I cant replace bus

[calm furnace]

i love judgment so much

[rancid niche]

There's a weird interaction with Bones

I don't know how to set it up but you need two of em

[wise mica]

so what does the blank voucher do

[terse vale]

gg

[wise mica]

I've been buying it every time it comes up

just because I've been assuming that its gotta do something otherwise it wouldn't exist

[rancid niche]

Buy 10 and it unlocks another voucher

[wise mica]

oh sweet

[rugged umbra]

next tier unlocks antimatter which gives +1 joker slot

[wise mica]

so what I was doing wasn't pointless

[stable owl]

Very meaningful in fact

[rancid niche]

And after unlocking it, you just buy blank once every game to find the Antimatter

If you want to of course

[glad bronze]

They can definitely bug out

That's for sure

[wise mica]

I mean the fact that the description text had a question mark clued me into the fact that it probably didn't actually do nothing

[rancid niche]

Well yeah that's the point lol

[stable owl]

The first voucher does nothing to balance out how strong having an extra joker is

[wise mica]

Yeah the implications of that are crazy

[calm furnace]

i mean that extra joker is not that strong

at least for ante 8

its a big gamble to pay 10$ in hopes of paying 10$ again to have an extra joker slot

[wise mica]

It could assist in getting there at least

[calm furnace]

the 20$ investment in the extra joker slot is better spent somewhere else

but if have solid econ

doesnt hurt to take the voucher

[terse vale]

ehh blank + antimatter is liek a C tier voucher

[novel thicket]

Nintendo Switch Stats Update:

Still a "Flush Baby" LOL

[terse vale]

would be different if you were actually guaranteed to get the extra joker slot

[wise mica]

I usually like to get gold joker for the early/midgame if I can

[calm furnace]

if blank was replaced by antimatter after buying it 10 time for every other run

it would be great

[wise mica]

almost always sell it by ante 7

by then I'm usually good enough in the money department to where the gold joker slot is better used for something else

[calm furnace]

gold is a nice joker

just wish it wasnt 6$ upfront

[native cape]

i gotta find a chad soon

[slow iris]

never

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[wise mica]

also I don't believe I've ever gotten wheel of fortune to work

guess I'm not lucky like that

[fringe holly]

What's the optimal play here? Do i get soul or not

[terse vale]

whateverrrr

[silent quiver]

R u trying to play flush five or baron mime

[terse vale]

loyalty card time ig?

and I have emergency suit changers

[jolly relic]

hmmm..

[silent quiver]

Eh i guess so

Card sharp not doing it im assuming

[shell dagger]

I mean you still keep card sharp

[jolly relic]

do i take it 🐽🐽

[shell dagger]

just ditch c9

[shell dagger]

sure

don’t get sad if it hits showman

[jolly relic]

mime !!

[silent quiver]

Nicee

[silent quiver]

Idk if they struggling to draw straights consistently enough for it to be doing good

But yea i didnt look at the money c9 isn’t necessary anymore

[jolly relic]

my score is only e12

yuck

[blissful fog]

Minus 2 handsize does take a toll on that kind of build

[terse vale]

yea I did

[terse vale]

any Xmult is valuable so I took it

my strat is to play a 2 pair to prime card sharp

then play a full suit two pair for flowerpot and card sharp

[blissful fog]

Card sharp goated

[jolly relic]

and im only jusr getting my first red seal king.. if i can even find the queen to strength it

[terse vale]

didn’t even have to use the suit changers

[silent quiver]

Ah so ur runners already online ig

[jolly relic]

wow

another natural negative vampire

[silent quiver]

Niceee

[jolly relic]

yay i found the queen

[blissful fog]

Did you take it?

[jolly relic]

no

[blissful fog]

Good

[jolly relic]

the build i did with it before was trash anyways

[icy hollow]

My last 4 runs have all had pair above lvl 20 😭 🙏 🙏 🙏 with 2 of them being above 40

[terse vale]

the boss was originally crimson heart and I really don’t think I could have won so I just rerolled that

[blissful fog]

Lucky reroll ngl

[terse vale]

I guess leaf would have been fine too since the cards aren’t wild

and acorn of course

as long as it wasn’t vessel

but maybe I could have won against vessel

[deft sandal]

uhhh

wtf is this seed

[blissful fog]

Pivot time

[gloomy swallow]

This is why you are in the lowest tier for me rtb.

what are you thinking brotato chip

I HAVE POLY KINGS

I AM NOT PIVOTING TO YOU VRO

[terse vale]

lowkey I would just ignore baron

[deft sandal]

i took baron before trib

[jolly relic]

why isnt showman giving me another blueprint 😡

[deft sandal]

was desperate for some sort of scoring

[lunar zealot]

well bus isn't really low tier

it definitely doesn't fit the build but that doesn't necessarily make it bad

just not splashable

[calm furnace]

that baron is doing nothing

[jolly relic]

wow finally something

3 barons

3 mimes

and a blueprint

🐽

we love showman !!

[terse vale]

I know

but now that you do have trib 👀

baron is just a fading afterthought for me

[jolly relic]

its better though

and the one they have is eternal no?

[viscid stone]

I BEAT JOKERLESS!!!

Need to update my server nickname

Surprised it didn't take longer, to be honest

Got lucky with 4oak and finds

[terse vale]

baron is not better than trib

[gloomy swallow]

Hiker GOLD STAKED! ONLY ONE REMAINS!

[terse vale]

and even if you did have a dead eternal slot (which they do) trib is still manageable

[viscid stone]

Next step, C+

well, really, next step is unlocking gold stakes so I can C+

[jolly relic]

do i take troubadour over one of my 3 mimes

or does showman go

[terse vale]

idk but prolllly showman?

[graceful oak]

am at 85% of c++ any advices to make it fast ? it starts to become difficult

[pale wolf]

i should beat jokerless

[pale wolf]

depends on the jokers that are left specifically

[silent quiver]

Lets goooi what r u missing?

[pale wolf]

if lots of rares/uncommons you could take anaglyph rarity tags, but mostly just making lots of money and rolling deep is important so consistent decks are good

[silent quiver]

I think its actually pretty fun the first few times

[pale wolf]

few times?

[silent quiver]

I mean it gets boring after u beat it like 3 times at least it did for me

[pale wolf]

i hate jokerless a lot thats why i havent beaten it

[silent quiver]

Ah

[pale wolf]

its the worst version of the game thats in the game

[silent quiver]

Understandable

[pale wolf]

but is cool for a challenge deck

its necessary like showman

[silent quiver]

Truth nuke

[pale wolf]

buuut i need to beat it anyways

procrastinating it for months

[graceful oak]

aight cuz most of time i just play gold/ghost and erratic to get a fast fixed deck and pick 2-3 jokers that can win by themselves and 2 random to gold stake them

[atomic trout]

Who's that Jokermón?

[fringe crest]

bgtsxdrr

[graceful oak]

xd chicot incoming

[pale wolf]

for gold stake consistency yellow/blue are generally considered the most consistent

[stuck dagger]

canic

[pale wolf]

again though it really depends a lot on what specific Jokers are left, because some decks are way better for some Jokers than others

[atomic trout]

It's Trebuchet!

[pale wolf]

enough to outweigh how easy it is to win on the deck

[graceful oak]

hooly

[pale wolf]

actually kinda ok with burnt

[naive heath]

should i replace raised fist with arrowhead

[pale wolf]

need planet levels to know

[jolly relic]

what goes!!

[pale wolf]

and perhaps how many fib cards you are hitting per hand

[naive heath]

my flush is level 2 bro

[night turret]

Thank you sir chicot

For making this run possible

[pale wolf]

id kill fist yea.. just build your fibonacci cards and maybe pivot flush house

[stuck dagger]

showman

[night turret]

I love dumb builds like this

[jolly relic]

awh

[pale wolf]

and uh no skips

[night turret]

Yeah love showman, But it has to go

[stuck dagger]

it's the safest decision 🙁

[jolly relic]

how big is the numbers on ante 18

[pale wolf]

whats dumb about jt

scaling chips, scaling mult, xmult

[night turret]

It only relies on 2 pairs

[pale wolf]

yea...?

thats a good hand

[night turret]

Anything else and both jokers wouldn’t upgrade

[night turret]

Yeah my point exactly

But the boss blinds were gonna be trouble, even if it was going to be on white stake

[acoustic kettle]

Almost a standard gold stake build

[atomic trout]

Yay. Thanks Trebuchet!

[stuck dagger]

idk i'm probably never getting there

[acoustic kettle]

Big

[atomic trout]

Too damn high

[wintry ice]

damn look at the ricochet

[pale wolf]

which boss blind would be trouble... maybe the eye for nova but trousers would be more important anyways

[night turret]

I believe it’s e28?

[acoustic kettle]

Well chicot is there anyway

So

[stuck dagger]

are there actually any useless rare joker? cause i feel i'm the only one thinking Obelisk is absolute trash

[pale wolf]

baron

[acoustic kettle]

Baron

[atomic trout]

That's as far as I got

[acoustic kettle]

Obelisk is top tier

[night turret]

Since I had a lot of the same suits, and face cards

[wintry ice]

baron is the closest one by far

[pale wolf]

obelisk is one of the fastest and most consistent scaling jokers in the game

[stuck dagger]

ragebait?

[atomic trout]

Should have played pairs

[night turret]

Plant along with any disable “this suit”

[acoustic kettle]

No

[pale wolf]

no lol skill issue

genuinely

[jolly relic]

i score e31 with brainstorm over troubadour

[atomic trout]

Nah

[jolly relic]

apparently

[wintry ice]

obelisk just need hand agnostic scoring

[acoustic kettle]

It is the second fastest growing xmult just behind campfire

[night turret]

Oh then you’ll be fine

I believe so, highest I got was ante 13

[wintry ice]

which is common in gold stake runs because you value consistency above everything else

[atomic trout]

Obelisk is weird

[pale wolf]

its not hard to play 14 of a hand (more than necessary) and then not play it anymore to win a run

[jolly relic]

and ofc ill find a second blueprint before ante 19.. right

[brittle temple]

getoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyhead

[wintry ice]

you can also use it as a somewhat better family with 4oaks

[acoustic kettle]

Be like doc and get obelisk with a max of 4

[stuck dagger]

but i can't play my best hand

if I played flush 7 times and Full 6 times that joker becomes useless since it resets every 2 hands right?

[acoustic kettle]

[dusty void]

I'm gonna go fucking insane

[night turret]

Lmao, more the merrier

[dusty void]

I did 15 runs in a row

[terse vale]

*watches*

[acoustic kettle]

Just don't play flush

Duh

[dusty void]

NONE IOF THEM WENT PAST ANTE 5

[brittle temple]

does insane consent

[dusty void]

FUCK BLUE STAKE

[night turret]

Happens

[dusty void]

Uhh depends

[night turret]

I hate orange stake

[atomic trout]

Burnt pairs

[wintry ice]

well as i said, your scoring doesn't depend on planet cards as often as you think

[dusty void]

I literally have 3 gold stakes

[pale wolf]

what does your best hand have to do with anything? planet levels are not going to matter in the face of how fast obelisk scales, provided that you have some sort of Base mult besides planetary scoring
which you can usually just find while having obelisk
keep in mind that you don't have to see obelisk while it's applicable, you can hold it and build the stack

[dusty void]

And I'm playing ghost deck

[gloomy swallow]

stone joker

[pale wolf]

x4 planet score is nice

[woven zinc]

so whos hungry for some vouchers?

[stuck dagger]

but if i play for example straight 7 times in a row then i can't use that hand either, can i?

[night turret]

Zebra is #1 obelisk glazer omg

[atomic trout]

Obelisk and Ride The Bus is impossible for me

[dusty void]

Lowk I still don't understand how obelisk works

Like I know what to do

[acoustic kettle]

You rotate the hands

[terse vale]

nope

[pale wolf]

I'm just stating facts, if you ask any skilled player theyd say the same

[dusty void]

But I cannot apply it

[silent quiver]

Oh thats not even a bad one u got it

[terse vale]

yea rotate them

[wintry ice]

the key is literally to not care about what you play

[terse vale]

well its peak joker

[wintry ice]

aka the key to easily winning gold stake

[stuck dagger]

and what if I played every hand the same amount of time

[night turret]

Oh it definitely is, but I’m not taking it anytime soon

[dusty void]

Wait is that literally it for obelisk?

[acoustic kettle]

You already won by then

[night turret]

I kinda dislike it right off the rip

[atomic trout]

I'm playing so many pairs atm, an Obelisk would destroy my run

[terse vale]

first of all, don’t

[stuck dagger]

i always reject Obelisk so I'm not sure about its efficiency

[dusty void]

Just play random shit and jt eorks?

[terse vale]

second it would reset yeah

[wintry ice]

get a scaling +mult joker and a mediocre chip generator or vice versa, play 14 or so pairs or flushes or whatever hand you use for earlygame and then just win

[night turret]

If I had it later antes, I would take it

[acoustic kettle]

Most runs is just pair spam until win screen anyway so obelisk is amazing

[night turret]

But any ante before 3? No thank you

[pale wolf]

yeah you have to have some sort of consistent base scoring via a Joker and then obelisk works
It's the xmult that you don't have to look for later in the game

[stuck dagger]

should give it an opportunity then

[acoustic kettle]

Do it

[wintry ice]

in comparison to that baron needs a lot of resources

[acoustic kettle]

Taste the deliciousness of big quick xmult

[pale wolf]

coincidentally consistent base scoring is already how you win the game most of the time, instead of less consistent options like on-card scoring

[stuck dagger]

i always get baron on early game so it becomes so useless

[acoustic kettle]

Baron is always useless tbh

In the main game

[glad bronze]

Chat

[wintry ice]

and the reward doesn't matter when you need to score 1.2mil at most on 14/15 decks

[brittle temple]

big number... yummers

[pale wolf]

astute the moon

[stuck dagger]

but i see everyone needs it to get naneinf, like can I actually get naneinf with other jokers?

[pale wolf]

That's a different meta entirely

[glad bronze]

Baron is niche but not useless, it's really good if you get it early game and you're able to do a bit of deckfixing

[wintry ice]

most other jokers need perkeo to do that

[brittle temple]

you should get some normal wins before going for naneinf

[wintry ice]

but that doesn't matter much since endless is more of a side-mode

[brittle temple]

to atleast get some gamesense

[acoustic kettle]

Most of the time building baron is not the optimal play

[pale wolf]

In which Baron is the only vaguely consistent option if you play unseeded

[glad bronze]

Perkeo with 7 blueprints

[stuck dagger]

been playing balatro for 1 year this month and i was never close to naneinf

[lunar zealot]

naneinf doesn't remotely matter

[pale wolf]

It's not something you accidentally do

[wintry ice]

you need more than just a bit of deckfixing for it

[glad bronze]

Most of the time most jokers (aside from bp gn) are not the optimal play

[lunar zealot]

do you get an achievement for getting naneinf

hell no

[glad bronze]

Nah

[brittle temple]

im here to gamble not win 🎰

[lunar zealot]

It means nothing in the grand scheme of things

[stuck dagger]

i've got a couple of stakes on some decks how many more do i need

[silent quiver]

Localthunk knew people wouldn’t get obelisk so he gave it the closest thing in the game to a specific joker tutorial, with the monolith challenge.

[lunar zealot]

Oh my god i know

[brittle temple]

nothing means anything if you want to go that far

[pale wolf]

i mean nothing means anything but its the max

[acoustic kettle]

Getting blueprint second shop before having anything is not really optimal

Especially against tough bosses

[wintry ice]

all but like 3 jokers have more times where they're optimal than baron in an ante 8 game

[lunar zealot]

Oh i agree nothing means anything and we're all going to die

[brittle temple]

its just pixels on a screen at the end of the day what matters is having fun

[glad bronze]

Not really? You see most of your deck just using discards and you can have 8 kings with 2 strengths

[pale wolf]

its just a different goal entirely from winning the game

[lunar zealot]

sit down and listen to the point i'm making

[acoustic kettle]

[brittle temple]

your point is that there isnt an achivement for a bug?

[wintry ice]

so 2 strengths assuming you draw every single queen

[lunar zealot]

Yes!

[brittle temple]

🧠

[wintry ice]

in addition to a lot of plutos because high card scaling is slow

[pale wolf]

assuming you found 2 strengths in shop or via a fool or got lucky in an arcana pack

[wintry ice]

that adds up to: just use 4oak instead

[pale wolf]

twice

[lunar zealot]

therefore there's really no point in going for naneinf for anything other than telling others you've done it

not like it counts for 100%

[pale wolf]

it happens

[lunar zealot]

so you aren't missing much

[brittle temple]

why do you care about the achivements that the game is telling you to get instead of the achivements you want to get?

[glad bronze]

Yeah since we're talking 1 round obv

[lunar zealot]

because the game achievements count towards 100% and personal achievements are outside of the scope of my argument

[pale wolf]

naneinf isnt very interesting imo you get the same experience from watching one

[glad bronze]

You don't do things just for fun?

[lunar zealot]

no i'm german

[acoustic kettle]

Even if you draw all 8 kings you still need a lot of planet levels for the mult to be actually meaningful

[wintry ice]

and how do you suppose that we should provide the plutos without a blue seal carrying massive amounts of weight?

[glad bronze]

You'd need like 3

[ancient gyro]

naneinf is a rather boring achievement through its journey

[brittle temple]

this isnt a speedrun 100% wr attempt sadly, so ima be going for my 10th naneinf

[lunar zealot]

strawman argument

[acoustic kettle]

Naneinf speedrun

[wintry ice]

4 mult isn't going to carry you through anything

[jolly relic]

the serpent but i only have 22 cards 😞😞

[stuck dagger]

bro what should I sell? (small joker is on +368 chips)

[sand lily]

I'm...not really sure why I took showman

[lunar zealot]

To get a second showman duh

[pale wolf]

3 planet levels and drawing 8 kings for a total of 20 mult

[wintry ice]

that's the same base mult as a flush with equivalent xmult to ancient joker at a much higher level of investment

[stuck dagger]

take 2 showmans

[atomic trout]

🥑

[pale wolf]

xd

[brittle temple]

also will you just completly quit the game when you reach 100%

[wintry ice]

you'll have a difficult time convincing me that's worth going for

[pale wolf]

its more than that btw

[lunar zealot]

Yes i will move on to slay the spire

[ancient gyro]

that's like 1 raised fist

[lunar zealot]

also still a strawman argument

[brittle temple]

i've been planning to buy that because of the sale is it good

[ancient gyro]

how's sts

[pale wolf]

its more like uhhh 70 mult

[lunar zealot]

I've gotten a2 with all characters

[ancient gyro]

o

[pale wolf]

which is still one raised fist with the same amount of deck fixing

[ancient gyro]

swag

[lunar zealot]

This screenshot is a thing of beauty

[lunar zealot]

i like it

[ancient gyro]

gguh

[acoustic kettle]

70 mult and no chips since all the momey went into getting more kings

[atomic trout]

The hell is this?

[ancient gyro]

its beautiful

[pale wolf]

You're leaking 1.1

[glad bronze]

Shoot the moon? Mime? Mult cards? Glass cards with chad? Photochad? Astronaut? Play your 4oak and enjoy the ~x3 mult from baron?

[tacit quail]

+1 cartomancer gold

[brittle temple]

firε

[lunar zealot]

ah yes 1.1 where balatro just becomes slay the spire

[trail acorn]

my seltzer died before getting the sticker T_T

[brittle temple]

homeless build

[pale wolf]

whoa the update has a title too

That's sick

[ancient gyro]

kami you're only supposed to share 1.1 screenshots in the 1.1 channel

[wintry ice]

so you need even more investment for it to be worth it

[atomic trout]

Wah wah

[glad bronze]

My guy is playing the 1 joker challenge here

[wintry ice]

do you expect to spawn any of these from thin air

[acoustic kettle]

Well the point is gold stake runs aim for consistency and not just high roll wet dreams

[wintry ice]

alongside 2 strengths and 20 plutos?

[ancient gyro]

what jokers are you going to frequently see that directly aid baron in gs

[terse vale]

baron is booty end of discussion 🥹

[glad bronze]

Get a blue seal? They're not hard just open a few booster packs bro
Doesn't even need to be kings

[atomic trout]

I do High Card, roll once wins

[pale wolf]

i wonder what the math is on choosing which hand type to play when you have 8 kings in hand a

[ancient gyro]

end of discussion, see you in 2 hours

[wintry ice]

well it's going to take 2 antes to get the plutos minimum

assuming that the blue seals don't interfere with drawing kings

hint: they most likely will

[acoustic kettle]

Yeah do all that and have no chips

[ancient gyro]

i have a challenge seed for you

[shell dagger]

fairly confident that it’s just 5oak

[brittle temple]

okay but 🎰

[shell dagger]

with lvl 1 all hands and no other scoring

[pale wolf]

blue seals on kings though!!! 1/13th kf them in packs and like 2/3 of trance!!!

[glad bronze]

Yall acting like baron is the CORE of the setup, everything needs to synergise perfectly for it to work

[ancient gyro]

im a visual learner

[shell dagger]

rare jokers are usually the core of a setup though, we are just comparing like for like

[atomic trout]

I reached high antes without Baron or Mime

[pale wolf]

and thats not changing with mime right

[shell dagger]

it will likely change with mime

[acoustic kettle]

Thinking about it rare tag have some great hits

[brittle temple]

they're talking about naneinf i think

[glad bronze]

We have a hand size of 8 btw

[atomic trout]

Gross

[ancient gyro]

not everything needs synergy

[wintry ice]

correct

[terse vale]

well yeah but more often than not its poo

[glad bronze]

Ok?? That's not what I'm saying

[wintry ice]

a blue seal occupies atleast 1 hand size

[pale wolf]

but you're trying to draw out of 8 kings so you wont be throwing 5 cards at a time

[wintry ice]

which interferest with drawing the kings

[pale wolf]

for however many kings

[wintry ice]

tldr just go 4oak instead

[brittle temple]

what even is the argument

[atomic trout]

I'm not following what's going on haha

[glad bronze]

Exactly, baron is still good on its own

[brittle temple]

that baron isnt good for nonendless?

[ancient gyro]

slandering baron

[acoustic kettle]

With a non king blue you only have 6 kings in hand

[ancient gyro]

yeah ok sure 💔

[wintry ice]

that's the end of discussion

[shell dagger]

yeah it’s still 5oak/f5

[pale wolf]

interesting

[ancient gyro]

its better than 4 jokers

that's all I can say

[wintry ice]

everything that needs high investment is overshadowed by 4oak

[atomic trout]

Baron works on Steel Kings with red Seals and Aura applied. Perkeo is your friend

[pale wolf]

are high card baron runs wrong? are you supposed to flush 5???

[brittle temple]

thats ya'alls fault for arguing with someone who put 20 pluses in their name tbh

[shell dagger]

trueeee

[acoustic kettle]

Aura doesn't really matter

[atomic trout]

True.

[pale wolf]

flush 5 scales so much faster than high card too

[brittle temple]

sung jin woo is crying after hearing that

[ancient gyro]

20 plussys that's something I don't have yet 💔

[atomic trout]

It's makes the card look pretty

[pale wolf]

why do people not use flush 5 with baron ...

[acoustic kettle]

Because

[atomic trout]

Too many cards used at once

[pale wolf]

like pivot to it as soon as they can

[ancient gyro]

i do it for ticket farming duh

[wintry ice]

what they're trying to say is that every other joker doesn't need as much investment as baron does

[acoustic kettle]

Ticket mime do be tempting

[brittle temple]

flush five my goat (its 5 2's for my wee)

[pale wolf]

but its demonstrated that flush 5 is always the better choice

given similar levels

[acoustic kettle]

Cook

[pale wolf]

and I feel like flush 5 can outpace high card even if highCard has like 15 levels on it

[wintry ice]

the best use for 5oak

[acoustic kettle]

Also flush five is more chips

[ancient gyro]

what baron requires, all other builds (apart from idol lol) require less money/investment/value gen requirements

[brittle temple]

highcard is better under 1% of circumstances so its overall better trust

[glad bronze]

You'll be throwing out 5 until you get 4, which is ~4.5 xmult and you can still draw for more

[cosmic sun]

baron more like

bare ass

[ancient gyro]

nsfw

[atomic trout]

Unless you have Perkeo with Cryptic

[serene forge]

what would you choose in this situation

[acoustic kettle]

I mean i would rather not dying to plant and vessel but you do you

[brittle temple]

baron is fun to build around even if it causes my demise most of the time tbh

[ancient gyro]

easiest question of my life

[pale wolf]

im stunlocked rn

[wintry ice]

4.5x mult which culminates to like 18 mult with lvl 4 high card

[serene forge]

ok bro

[glad bronze]

Average s&b glass card player

[wintry ice]

which is the example you gave

[shell dagger]

On plasma with 1 baron mime the ranking is f5 > 4oak > hc > pair > 3oak

[ancient gyro]

here's a harder question (diamond boss)

[cosmic sun]

fattest rebate payoff ever

[brittle temple]

your name is just chai tea

[atomic trout]

Blueprint

[pale wolf]

I'm so confused is there a reason why people don't pivot flush 5 with baron, even for naneinf stuff

has anybody thought about this

[shell dagger]

the more blueprints you get, the better each individual king becomes

[glad bronze]

Use a mult card bro

[shell dagger]

better than any benefit from hand levels you can get

[pale wolf]

ah

[acoustic kettle]

More baron mime trigger with hc

[ancient gyro]

ppl pivot to hc from f5 because ticket farming to baron is reasonable as seen on docs latest naneinf tutorial

[wintry ice]

each king is like 8 baron triggers at the end of a naneinf run

[brittle temple]

the 98 stencil pivot is better so most people wait for that

[atomic trout]

Brainstorm and Blueprint so overpowered

[wintry ice]

so 36 mult

[pale wolf]

yes right, more copies of baron and mime

[ancient gyro]

just get x tarot card r u stupid

[shell dagger]

20 1.5x’s

[wintry ice]

when i could get 54 at minimum from bus at literally 0 investment

[pale wolf]

justice

oh actually it's wheel of Fortune

[brittle temple]

wheel of fortune gotta be the GOAT tbh

[wintry ice]

"just conjure everything you need at the same time i've had it happen on yellow deck once"

[atomic trout]

Gross

[brittle temple]

best tarot

[atomic trout]

[brittle temple]

+50 chips my beloved

[ancient gyro]

riddle me this; between stm and baron, how many plutos will it take for baron to exceed stm scoring with 4 cards held in hand affecting scoring

[acoustic kettle]

A lot

[brittle temple]

just download a mod that spawns in 500 jokers its not that hard to win smh

[acoustic kettle]

A hell lot

[wintry ice]

here's an example of a similar joker, shoot the moon

[glad bronze]

Now get a couple steel cards since those hardly work with bus 👍

[wintry ice]

it always gives +13 mult for each queen

[wintry ice]

so you need even more investment

hence proving that it needs too much bullshit to work

[acoustic kettle]

Good bait

[glad bronze]

What is bro on??

[wintry ice]

at the reward of being vulnerable to boss blinds

[ancient gyro]

too much bullshit you just can't find frequently in gs

[wintry ice]

which bus isn't

[atomic trout]

High on Cavendish

[glad bronze]

Does bro not get vouchers?

[acoustic kettle]

Unironically skipping all of the packs when making kings is more mult for red carf

[pale wolf]

are you using a mod where you get to see multiple vouchers per ante or something

[wintry ice]

so you need vouchers on top of all that and you still see it as a good deal

[ancient gyro]

I'll give you two hours to find a gs seed where you made a baron build work

[brittle temple]

its meant to go in your mouth not your nose

[terse vale]

SIR YES SIR

[acoustic kettle]

I mean there are some

[wintry ice]

"here's this amazing game where you need to buy 500$ of dlc for it to be playable"

type argument

[ancient gyro]

ik, im giving them a self imposed challenge

[atomic trout]

Sounds gatcha

[pale wolf]

one that doesnt already exist

lol

[ancient gyro]

to prove a point

[terse vale]

Fiboulet
hold on thats a pretty good name

[acoustic kettle]

Technically

All seeds already exists

[pale wolf]

that isnt true

[brittle temple]

half the time im here theres people just hating on baron when is it gonna get old

[glad bronze]

I'll give you 2 hours to find a job

[terse vale]

does fiboulet even exist as a combo people do

[acoustic kettle]

Just haven't been explored

[brittle temple]

most of the time there isnt even anyone actively arguing for it

[pale wolf]

the seed doesnt truly "Exist" as a game of balatro until it has been generated in some form

[ancient gyro]

im currently on lunch break lol

[wintry ice]

already resorting to ad hominem?

[glad bronze]

I'm literally at school bro

[acoustic kettle]

So jobless

[atomic trout]

This is Balatro chat 🤣

[acoustic kettle]

[pale wolf]

even using The Soul analysis makes a seed exist imo but until you actually find out anything about the seed, i say it fails to exist as balatro

[ancient gyro]

ok, ad hominem
let's talk about balatro

[brittle temple]

the thing that ties this channel together is the baron hate

[pale wolf]

i hate bloodstone

[brittle temple]

i love bloodstone (i never use it)

[atomic trout]

Bloodstone is questionable