🕹・game-discussion

[stark karma]

Think runner or grimbo but I don’t remember what they were

I remember the consumables upgraded something but it was not hand levels but some new crazy thing

[calm furnace]

/ban

[stark karma]

This made me giggle and slap my tummy

[spark kernel]

This PAINTED DECK looks great wouldnt you agree

[stark karma]

Decent start ig

[hardy fable]

no because you're in ante 4 with 0 dollars

[spark kernel]

Yall did not get the joke

[weak seal]

i thought "discount painted deck" before looking at the bottom right

[stark karma]

Oh because paint brush

[spark kernel]

Yes

[weak seal]

it would be funnier if you drew that screenshot for even more Painting in the Paint Joke /lh

[valid ether]

Ok

[merry crag]

Crazy

[valid ether]

common unhelpfully helpful invisible joker instance

I think i got the egg round 2 or some

[waxen fable]

Congrats buddy

[bold vine]

insane

[calm furnace]

i do not deserve this win i sold my boys

feels bad man

[valid ether]

It was a necessary evil

[calm furnace]

i could have sold erosion it was doing nothing

and got supernova later

and kept the spacers

they were proccing every round ❤️

18 levels in mercury thanks to them

[simple jacinth]

Matador and Zany done

[twin lantern]

Somebody pls help me beat the game

[simple jacinth]

but borb, your joker positioning is wrong! why is zany after your xmult?!

[simple jacinth]

go watch Balatro Academy, but here are my top tips:

• spend only as much as you need to keep winning
• understand where your scoring is coming from. are you mult-heavy, do you need more chips to balance it out? do you need to deckfix more for consistency?
• plan ahead and check what your boss is at the start of a blind
• if a suit is debuffed, you can be sure it won't be debuffed again - consider building around it

[calm furnace]

i think zanny is there for the sticker

[simple jacinth]

also try not to skip

[simple jacinth]

top marks

[calm furnace]

if you see investment tag ante 1 skip

[simple jacinth]

if you see double investment tag, you have almost no excuse to lose the run

[calm furnace]

if you see 2 investment tags go pray and thank god

[stable owl]

What is the difference between green and purple stake
Both accelerates blind size?

[simple jacinth]

also, play with what you're given!

[stark karma]

What do stencil, riff raff and campfire have in common

[simple jacinth]

yeah, but stakes include all previous effects

[calm furnace]

they are all godlike

[stark karma]

True :D

What else

[calm furnace]

its an excuse to lose if you have any of those 3?

[stark karma]

Hahaha

It’s a mechanical similarity

[simple jacinth]

they all require you to own less to be better

[calm furnace]

thats vagabong

[simple jacinth]

riff raff needs free slots, stencil does too, and campfire has you selling things

[calm furnace]

campfire needs slots too

selling rentals is the best way to scale campfire

[simple jacinth]

in a way

[calm furnace]

unless you have the liquidation lvl2

[calm furnace]

wanna add one thing to this

[simple jacinth]

reroll before packs

[calm furnace]

you gotta get a sense of when scaling something past its current level is pointless and wont attribute to your score

[simple jacinth]

bring consumables into the shop

[calm furnace]

+mult scalers between 30-40 mult its enough

+chips around 200 chips is enough

xMult 3x is kinda enough

knowing when to save money on scaling and using it to find better jokers or other things is essential

to becoming consistent

[mortal needle]

I LOVE CERTIFICATE

[simple jacinth]

well, you always want to scale whatever is most impactful to your score

[mortal needle]

RED SEAL KING THANK YOU

[turbid nova]

Just lost a game because I was getting ZERO planet packs

[tardy spade]

Legendary joker idea: "+3 joker slots"

[mortal needle]

Only on ante 2 boss holy

[calm furnace]

every scoring joker has a limit where scaling it more wont really matter that much

[turbid nova]

I had over 100 bucks and no way to spend them

[mortal needle]

Just play modded at that point honestly

[tardy spade]

I would say skill issue but I actually can't find the skill issue here

[calm furnace]

instead of scalng constellation to become 4x when its 3x, use that money to find blackboard or carp sharp or another xmult

[simple jacinth]

true, but like, if you stop scaling early enough then you're vulnerable to vessel

[pale wolf]

saying concrete numbers like this sort of exposes you for not getting a sense of relative scaling and trying to establish a standard

[turbid nova]

I did reroll a bit too but nothing

[calm furnace]

2x * x3 is better than 4.5x alone

[simple jacinth]

oh I get your point, yeah

[pale wolf]

sometimes 100 chips is 3x and sometimes its 1.25x

[calm furnace]

huh?

[stark karma]

Yup!

[low fog]

with triple triboulet, i'm guessing sock is better?

[calm furnace]

no shit some runs are different han others

[simple jacinth]

that was a bit of a brainteaser, nice one

[stark karma]

Yeahh

[simple jacinth]

100%

[calm furnace]

i found 30-40 200 3x to be the average

[stark karma]

Thanks!

[pale wolf]

you cant just say a number because it's always context dependent to your scoring engine

[simple jacinth]

if you're playing hands of five kings/queens

[stark karma]

I could have included dagger too :P

[calm furnace]

im just giving an average it will depend on each run

[pale wolf]

it doesnt work as a general gameplay guide

[low fog]

nice ass setup

[simple jacinth]

could you include dagger in my joker lineup for my next winning gold stake run pls and thanks

[calm furnace]

yeah of course its a rougelike game

all i said doesnt matter when you find photochad

[stark karma]

Hahaha why?

[simple jacinth]

I have 7 jokers to go and that's one of them

[tardy spade]

I feel like certain jokers exist to teach you how to play well.
For example, erosion teaches you that cutting cards is good, and driver's licence teaches you to enhance your cards

[simple jacinth]

it's dagger, ticket, and five others

no legendaries though

[stark karma]

I gold staked dagger a while back

It’s pretty gooood

[simple jacinth]

dagger, ticket, fib, steel, trib, glass, and wee

[stark karma]

Erosion is my all time fave

[stark karma]

No legendaries tho?

Trib?

[simple jacinth]

I almost got trib one run ago but needed to sell it to get the hand back, and almost got glass but sold it so I could do gift card instead

yeah, legendaries are all done

troub, I mean

[stark karma]

Lmao

[simple jacinth]

I always get trib and troub mixed up

prepare for trible

and make it dible

[stark karma]

Wanna see my most optimal C++ win

I’m so proud of it

[simple jacinth]

yeah, shoot

[stark karma]

5 fodder joker carried by the astrogoat

[calm furnace]

spacegod ❤️

[simple jacinth]

love those runs where you clear out a billion jokers all at once

[stark karma]

Yeah

And I was planning to swap space joker last second but could not afford anything in the shop

[calm furnace]

did you have telescope

or burnt joker

how did you get to level 44

[stark karma]

A lot of hands and an early brainstorm

I don’t think I had either of those

[simple jacinth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1156721486288126023/1462199610280907076/Screenshot_20260117-213835.png?ex=696dfbc1&is=696caa41&hm=bd3512e705e87d14086e6193254ede2884468b54010807a9ba169a6f6028996a&

Ripping two ectos in this one felt awesome

[stark karma]

It was like an ante 1 space joker and I just juiced him up all the way

[calm furnace]

how many hands played?

[stark karma]

Not sure but a lot, forgot to save mb

I had both hand size vouchers tho

[calm furnace]

spaceman is so goated sometimes

[stark karma]

Sometimes lmao

[calm furnace]

my last run double spaceman carried me to start of ante 4

[stark karma]

Yeah I find C++ great on ghost deck for this reason

+immolates

And the early poly is actually pretty nice

[calm furnace]

ghost is nice for c++ can take it slow

and just hex the joker without a sticker

[stark karma]

Thunk didn’t have to but I’m glad he did

Yeah lol

[calm furnace]

it will still contribute something being hexed

[stark karma]

Even if it’s no score like four fingers

lol

I have about 30 jokers left lol

Including Trib

[calm furnace]

tho imo fastest way is to build something that needs 2-3 jokers

preferebly 2 jokers

something like flat mult x mult lots of planet cards

save econ

and last shop before ante 8 boss just buy everything without a sticker

it became a muscle memory to always roll down to 0 before ante 8 boss

[stark karma]

That’s not the most viable strategy for me now just because of how much everything is goldened

[calm furnace]

for me this was the best way to get food jokers stickered especially popcorn

also invisible

i wasnt paying much attention to c++ especially that i play on two different saves

but one day i decided to check on my phone save

and i was like 144/150

so to get the last few jokers i just saved money till last boss

and rerolled till i find the missing jokers

[fervent plover]

Today my loss count is 30

Yipee

Lemme keep losing

🥳🥳

[wild merlin]

just like me frfr

[fervent plover]

Hehe

[last path]

abandoned deck gold stake win.

[split estuary]

Oh no...

[halcyon portal]

Never Getting past this blind

[acoustic kettle]

Hold your blueprint

[halcyon portal]

I wonder my limit

[distant thunder]

after you tap the blind you can hold your blueprint to know where it is

[split estuary]

But I'm a little bit doubtful about my burglar

[distant thunder]

ah good point

[split estuary]

Yeah I'm cooked 🫸

[last path]

how often is it that someone loses the run to the tooth, not because you couldn't beat the requirement, but because you are in game over crippling debt

[lunar zealot]

Often if one is stupid

[split estuary]

WOAH

[lunar zealot]

tooth can end runs if you're not careful

[split estuary]

MY BURGLAR

[lunar zealot]

shares that trait with arm

[split estuary]

LETS GOO

[atomic trout]

The Eye killed me

I reset before I met it

What?

This Stakes sucks

[light brook]

anyone got any tips to unlock merry andy? he’s the last joker i need

[acoustic kettle]

What is the requirement again

[light brook]

like are there preferred decks i should use?

[light brook]

win a run in 12 rounds or less

[acoustic kettle]

Plasma deck white stake

[light brook]

yeah figured as such

and then probably throwback or stuntman would be ideal there early on

[atomic trout]

Plasma Deck with 12 or less

[acoustic kettle]

You can definitely pass eye ante 1

Such a good start too

[manic minnow]

are there mods that display the entire chip number instead of e
those numbers remind me of physics class

[acoustic kettle]

I don't know

Ask #⚙・modding-general

There aren't any probably

[cloud sigil]

wahts the move

[acoustic kettle]

Sell mime

Non foil

[cloud sigil]

#did it

mime and hanging chad are super annoying because for some reason my invis always hit them

[brisk plume]

When this eventually gets sold does it lose poly

[cloud sigil]

yes

copied jokers w poly the poly stays but poly invis joker that u sell ofc the poly goes away

[brisk plume]

Lovely

[cloud sigil]

solo poly amory hijabi joker

[atomic trout]

HOW?

[atomic trout]

I lost

Not a damn Full House

[split estuary]

😔

[atomic trout]

Fuck this game

Pairs blow ass

[vocal rose]

they don’t

you’re skipping and making bad choices

[unborn cliff]

rebate just hit jacks 3 times in a row

[atomic trout]

I skipped like seven times LOL

[unborn cliff]

six or seven

[formal abyss]

its a4 round 12 tho?

or am i missing something

[vocal rose]

look at the bottom right

[formal abyss]

oh...

[terse dock]

Hit the road

[atomic trout]

Screw off

Same damn Ante too 🤣

[trim notch]

sometimes, balatro can balatrize itself

[trim notch]

who's Escalera bro

[unborn cliff]

i think thats straight

[pale wolf]

^

[unborn cliff]

i guessed was that correct

[pale wolf]

idk you sent what i was gonna type

[unborn cliff]

oh ok

[pale wolf]

yea its straight

[vast basin]

havent played ballallallalla in ages

[atomic trout]

Straights

And it Straights suck when the game bends you over

Doesn't give me them

Two Discards is punishing.

[vast basin]

this is why we never play striaghts!

unless early ante

[atomic trout]

Blue Stakes is impossible. Yet I made it to Gold Stakes

[unborn cliff]

very cool draws thanks balatro

[atomic trout]

That's happened to me twice

[unborn cliff]

#BLOODEAGLETHEMOUTH

[wintry lynx]

what do I do #chat 🫀

Im trying to make the hand I play have each suit

[twin rune]

Two pair aces and queens will do it there

[wintry lynx]

is dat the best play

[terse dock]

3oak aces + gay 8spade

[terse dock]

He has splash

[unborn cliff]

3oak aces + 8

[trim notch]

it was a joke

[twin rune]

Oh, Splash. How I forget about your existence.

[trim notch]

and yes, it is straight

[trim notch]

i cant find any good use to splash

tbh

[terse dock]

Flower Pot

[unborn cliff]

probably because hes a useless chud

[unborn cliff]

flower pot isnt good

[formal abyss]

whoa i forgot about splashpot

[terse dock]

But its a use

[unborn cliff]

its not a good one

[terse dock]

It is a pretty good use

[trim notch]

in 15 retriggers, i neede ONE to give me 20 mult 😭

[unborn cliff]

its the only use

[terse dock]

L bloodstone

[wintry lynx]

🥹 🥹 🥹 🥹

[trim notch]

it was, now, lucky cards

[terse dock]

L bloodstone

[unborn cliff]

all me

[trim notch]

why my name so sassy

[trim notch]

yes

[rugged umbra]

@trim notch you

[trim notch]

half of the server maybe

stickers

[wintry lynx]

who tf is splashpot I just chose randum jokers

[trim notch]

:balatro:

[unborn cliff]

UGHHHH THERES SO MANY GOOD JONKLERS HERE....

[icy hollow]

Peak

[formal abyss]

splash + flower pot 💔

[unborn cliff]

squimbo or runner

[trim notch]

define good...

[unborn cliff]

square joker

supernova

runner

[icy hollow]

Omg bludstone hater!!!!!!

[formal abyss]

squimblo.

[trim notch]

iknow im jokin....

[wintry lynx]

is it like a good combo

[terse dock]

Splash + Flower Pot

[trim notch]

[formal abyss]

its a usable one

[unborn cliff]

i wonder if this is biased in any way

[rugged umbra]

incredible synergy
i see a bright future ahead of you

[trim notch]

someone know the seed of neg bp and ankh first or second ante

[terse dock]

Square good for getting fisted

[rugged umbra]

i do

[trim notch]

would u tell me

[rugged umbra]

no

[trim notch]

..

@meta ai whats th seed of neg bp

[terse dock]

837YDHC

[unborn cliff]

i skip campfire a lot because i think "ehhh its not that good" then i take it and remember that it IS that good

[rugged umbra]

@grok summarize

[trim notch]

ty

[terse dock]

7DHWALE

[terse dock]

I lied

[trim notch]

ik now

[trim notch]

campfire in my opinion of a white stake user

it doesnt appear on my shops

and if it does

it is 5 rounds debuff

[unborn cliff]

every good joker is perishable for some reason

it pmo

[unborn cliff]

however it would be nice if i got some consumables instead of 999999 jokers

or maybe even a good econ joker instead of faceless

[wintry lynx]

@chatgpt generate me a game me and the fellow IDF soliders will love!!

chatgpt: GENERATING BALATRO

[vocal rose]

interesting

[atomic trout]

I hate 🔵 Stakes

Going back to ⚪️

[calm furnace]

how do i tattoo this

[serene forge]

weakest campfire run

[unborn cliff]

where econ

[serene forge]

i spent it all to power up a 15x campfire for the end of the game dummy

[unborn cliff]

waow

[old flax]

guys what are some good mods i should try?

[olive basin]

Paper back

[thorny axle]

1 LEFT.

[marsh dove]

took the double rare skip for the meme

holy shit

[wary crypt]

Got ride the bus and Mr. Bones with a gold sticker with also me Beating my second deck on gold stake :D

[twin lantern]

Who can carry me through my first run I’m bad

[acoustic kettle]

Holy high roll

[wary crypt]

I could

[twin lantern]

Thank you!

[marsh dove]

for real

[arctic hollow]

I reaaally wanna get good at balatro but i lowkey suck

[dim elk]

😭

[acoustic kettle]

Probably get rid of halfsies idk

[twin lantern]

DMs or?

[arctic hollow]

I just always use the same joker set up of the pants

[wary crypt]

You want to call so I could give you advice while you stream?

[acoustic kettle]

Might ruin the obby building

[dim elk]

what am i supposed to do?

[marsh dove]

see i could do that

but i want to live and not kill the run

so ill instead keep it i think

[acoustic kettle]

What do you want even?

[wary crypt]

I’d just get ride of arrow head ngl

[twin lantern]

Nah sorry I can’t call

[dim elk]

ight

[wary crypt]

That’s fine, I can still help tho

[dim elk]

😭 😭

[twin lantern]

K thanks

[wary crypt]

I guess goodbye to photo XD

[dim elk]

i guess i could get ecto 😭

[acoustic kettle]

Why did you even take the onyx

[pale wolf]

why in the world do you have an eternal smeared haha

[wary crypt]

Arrowhead sucks-

[pale wolf]

the onyx is fine if chad was after photo but smeared is wild

[dim elk]

i needed to survive the aerly game okay

[acoustic kettle]

Arrowhead is great chips

[wary crypt]

I just have a wonky playstyle is all

[wary crypt]

As you can see

[dim elk]

arrowhead is good with chad and retriggers

[pale wolf]

why is the joker order wrong

[acoustic kettle]

Even without them it's still great

[wary crypt]

Acorn

[pale wolf]

ic

[wary crypt]

Yea

Also anyone down to call?

[pale wolf]

for what it's worth i've been making custom emotes for a while (only just seeing this message now)

[last bolt]

banan or overused build

[dim elk]

bananinfa

[rustic nacelle]

Banana

🍌

[wary crypt]

Banana

[wary crypt]

:’D

[spark kernel]

I was going to score 5 gold card but this is just sad

[wary crypt]

Well damn

[pale wolf]

tbh i either dont take the aj or i pivot entirely to it

so fair situation

[slow epoch]

Do I open the pack first for ankh?

[rare sequoia]

BALATRODLE IN 2 DO YOU GUYS LOVE ME NOW ❤️

[stone forge]

that's goated

[rare sequoia]

I loe you

[willow frost]

i dont think the jokers even sell for enough anyway

[pale wolf]

uhhh yea

[willow frost]

rip

[pale wolf]

that is true lol

[wintry lynx]

shuld i reroll

[light brook]

do yall know the best deck to unlock merry andy?

i’m between checkered anaglyph and plasma

[unreal vine]

People what the fucking hell is the Balatrodle of today?

[light brook]

yes there is

[unreal vine]

|which?|

Bro

[light brook]

think of [hint] ||famous strategies||

[unreal vine]

The spoiler message wasn't like that?

[light brook]

two lines

[unreal vine]

Ok gotta think

[ancient gyro]

plasma white
play out first two antes
full skip the rest

[light brook]

thank ya 🙏

[ancient gyro]

copy paste the spoiler text from their message
add your message in the message headers

[pale wolf]

its two bars, ||like this||

also i gotta balatreoodle

ok well that was the easier one possible i think

easiest*

balatrodle in 2 ||fun fact, cavendish is cheaper than michel for some reason||

[ancient gyro]

||you've already said this fun fact||

[pale wolf]

ye but its relevant to why the answer was ez

[ancient gyro]

ofc

[pale wolf]

woops

[twin lantern]

Maybe the reason I never use ride the bus, is because I don't like riding the bus in real life.

[pale wolf]

wrong channel lo

[ancient gyro]

im like two pieces away from balatro spectral shield

[pale wolf]

oo

[ancient gyro]

prob not gonna use it for my build

so idk why I'm crafting it

[forest birch]

Is it time for the dice

[wary crypt]

Yea

[forest birch]

Otay

Should I still be copying bloodstone tho

[wary crypt]

Yea for X mult cus now it’s guaranteed

[humble gulch]

I like to think it happens because cavendish is the abundant kind of banana right now

[marsh dove]

rate the build

[light brook]

solid 6/7

[marsh dove]

yeah acrobat isnt doing anything

[light brook]

nah but in honesty it’s mid imo

depends what hand you’re playing

[marsh dove]

yeah i was just posting a random build its a pretty standard gold stake win

its just pair spam

[acoustic kettle]

Well it is 27 xmult for the last hand

Good build

[slow epoch]

I’d say that was a pretty good seed

[light brook]

pretty solid

[marsh dove]

whats the joker on the right

[light brook]

wrong photo hold on

there we go

i got planted immediately after though so uhh

[marsh dove]

yeah thats the trouble with trib

[light brook]

i didn’t have enough econ to reroll for lucha either so it was kinda game over

[acoustic kettle]

Which is why trib is the worst hit from a soul

[light brook]

and i didn’t even think about directors cut

hot take canio is the worst of the souls

[marsh dove]

the literal best hit

thats crazy

[acoustic kettle]

Triboulet exists

[light brook]

trib is good because i’m a photochad player

[acoustic kettle]

I'd argue rick is the best hit

[mild kindle]

Help guys

[marsh dove]

thats fair

[light brook]

i don’t deck fix often and when i do it’s with death

[marsh dove]

usually canio scales faster but its less consistent so i can see yorick being better for sure

[light brook]

valid

[marsh dove]

i based it on how quick it can be useful

yorick needs an ante to get to x2

[acoustic kettle]

True

[light brook]

oh that’s fair

[marsh dove]

canio you can be about to die if you find canio and use a hanged man its instantly x3

[light brook]

true

never understood the chicot hate

[marsh dove]

i dont see souls enough to have an intuition for which of those is more valuable

[acoustic kettle]

Rick is good if you can survive 2 rounds

[marsh dove]

anecdotally ive seen better runs with canio but both are wins if you find them early enough

[acoustic kettle]

Well same thing about canio if you din't find hanged man or glass face

[marsh dove]

3

[slow epoch]

Fuuuuck do I even take it?

[marsh dove]

5 rounds to match one hanged man

[light brook]

rough one

[acoustic kettle]

Right i can't count

Wait no

It is 2

You get the mult on the third round

[slow epoch]

I guess I would have to sell Chad and go more for the bloodstone

[marsh dove]

true ig

[light brook]

but chad increases bloodstone mult

[slow epoch]

But another bloodstone increases bloodstone mult more

[marsh dove]

depending on the deck i sell oops here

[light brook]

although yeah thas the play

sell chad blueprint blood

[marsh dove]

if you have enough deck fixing you can sell chad tho yeah

[slow epoch]

I have a lot of deck fixing

[light brook]

only problem is the photo because selling the chad tanks the value

[slow epoch]

Yeah, but I already won the run

[light brook]

true

[slow epoch]

I just want to go further

[acoustic kettle]

Just sell oops and die because bloodstone triggers a grand total of one time

[marsh dove]

i cant tell off the top of my head if selling into blueprint actually helps actually

maybe use balatro calculator

throw in the average hands see what the expected value from either is

[light brook]

depends if you rely on the photo or not

[wary crypt]

Wonky ahh build but still won

[marsh dove]

3 +mult is crazy

[light brook]

little bit of everything type build

[slow epoch]

I don’t really
I also have some red seal kings, so the photo isn’t completely worthless

[acoustic kettle]

The xmult are greats

[ancient gyro]

wonky
proceeds to have two top tier jokers

[acoustic kettle]

Only swash is wonky

[wary crypt]

Lol

[marsh dove]

with red seal i sell chad here

[young kestrel]

Do debuffed jokers still get a gold sticker on victory?

[dreamy creek]

i love bloodstone

[acoustic kettle]

I believe so

[wary crypt]

Yea

[light brook]

hmmm okay it also retriggers blood so i’d say sell chad

[nimble igloo]

This is wonky.

[young kestrel]

Okay thanks💜

[wary crypt]

My guy wtf

[dreamy creek]

bro got the "whatever gets me this score" loadout

[ancient gyro]

that's just classic white stake stuff

[wary crypt]

I think you’re missing something

[marsh dove]

how much consumable generation does one man need

[light brook]

anaglyph white stake shenanigans

[marsh dove]

idk ive seen similar on gold

taking a negative skip with bbc can make sense

[nimble igloo]

The two x7.4 holograms were putting in work but I finally unlocked stuntman

[dreamy creek]

DO NOT SHORTEN BASE BALL CARDDDD

[light brook]

imo hardest joker to unlock so congrats!

[marsh dove]

big fan of bbc

[dreamy creek]

[ancient gyro]

I've not seen enough screenshots to deem it as normal

[nimble igloo]

The BBC was a late addition, but helped me get over to ante 12 for the last voucher unlock too.

[marsh dove]

its not normal but it can make sense

[wary crypt]

So ante one shop

[marsh dove]

also if you have double hologram id take the fun skip too

double hologram just wins

[marsh dove]

nice

[nimble igloo]

I got so lucky when negative joker copied it because I had 3 negatives at that point already.

[wary crypt]

Egg or to-do list?

[ancient gyro]

they say make it make sense

[light brook]

wait okay genuine question i just thought
if you unlock bloodstone with smeared joker does that unlock rough gem too

[marsh dove]

brainstorm
you find rebate next shop trust

[wary crypt]

Maybe?

[ancient gyro]

not a frequent enough choice to go for as general advice

[marsh dove]

and you draw straight flushes in the meantime

[light brook]

similarly if you’re insane enough to do it with all wild cards do you just unlock all 4 of the set

[wary crypt]

But I’m trying to figure out what else I should take

[ancient gyro]

yeah sure it makes sense in a cherry picked scenario

[marsh dove]

oh its mega

[wary crypt]

Yea

[marsh dove]

id take egg but it might depend on to do list

whats it on rn?

[wary crypt]

Four of a kind

[marsh dove]

actually with brainstorm

hm

yeah id take to do list

[wary crypt]

Alright

[marsh dove]

i think its less consistent so probably a worse decision but you always go for high roll 🔥

[atomic trout]

The Eye forced me to lose

[vocal rose]

yeah bloodstone is fire with dice

[ancient gyro]

🗣️

[vocal rose]

WITH dice

🙂

[ancient gyro]

pinuts

at the same time

[marsh dove]

i mean yeah thats a lot of choices in balatro

same how an eternal credit card is sometimes the play

[ancient gyro]

this is just the bloopstone situation

[marsh dove]

it usually isnt

[vocal rose]

It is since negative skips are

99% of the times a hinderance to your run

so if you cherry pick a scenario so that its beneficial

it WILL be beneficial

[ancient gyro]

it wouldn't be wonky for this scenario since it would have a technical incentive (ignoring obvious drawbacks)

1% of the time it works every time

[vocal rose]

considering moving trib down to A-

but that feels weird

[ancient gyro]

mmm

wasn't it a- initially

[vocal rose]

also how do we feel about drunkard and juggler

[vocal rose]

yeah

[light brook]

bloopstone🗣️ (calling it this now)

[vocal rose]

are they even in power or

is one stronger

drunkard is close to being moved up

[light brook]

meh if you pick up vouchers they do exactly the same thing

[vocal rose]

thats not how you should consider joker value

[pale wolf]

yyea i think i'd rather have hand size than discard

[steady hedge]

funny build

[vocal rose]

yeah and I value paint brush over the discard voucher

so in that sense juggler should be a tiny bit higher

[marsh dove]

idk i think tier lists in this game are weird bc of how situational everything is

[ancient gyro]

just drunkdard?

im slow

[light brook]

literally just about to say this

[marsh dove]

i think juggler usually > dunkard

[vocal rose]

I just had like a reconsideration in the past 20 seconds

[vocal rose]

well you can make a tierlist work with the way I have it setup

yes balatro is a VERY situational game

[light brook]

how is it set up

[wintry ice]

could i get a link to the tier list

[vocal rose]

but you can value jokers on how consistent they are with most situations

[vocal rose]

https://tiermaker.com/create/balatro-joker-tier-list-version-101f-17122176

[slow epoch]

Statistically, sock and buskin is better than dice

Why the fuck not

[pale wolf]

yes

[ancient gyro]

the one list we were referring to was for a specific niche which is just a8 gs streaks so it's just a speculation chart to do a quick check and see what's useful in a more general sense

[vocal rose]

I rank jokers by how much value they bring in gs a8 streaks throughout a run

[wintry ice]

oh is it a value generator tier list

[vocal rose]

so theres a level of consistency one has over another typically

[marsh dove]

assuming picking it up early or late?

[ancient gyro]

general sense yes

[ancient gyro]

at any point

[pale wolf]

its not the situationality of it that i dont like about general tier lists but that early game jokers are just as important as late game jokers but tend to get underrated because they dont stick around as long

[marsh dove]

but the value of jokers changes a lot throughout the run

[vocal rose]

yeah something like that

[marsh dove]

an early supernova can be great, a late supernova is ass

[vocal rose]

thats retroactive

[marsh dove]

wait thats a bad example late supernova can work

green

[ancient gyro]

unconditional scoring sources have a longer shelf life

[pale wolf]

late supernova

what do you mean

[wintry ice]

i'd say moving carto down would make sense

[marsh dove]

for half a second i forgot supernova was retroactive

[wintry ice]

and maybe also moving faceless up but i'm biased

[vocal rose]

I agree with this

[surreal pier]

wdym

[vocal rose]

carto is a little underwhelming

faceless MIGHT get put into A

idk its so good

[ancient gyro]

what about parking

[pale wolf]

tier list where each joker is ranked by how viable it is at its most viable phase of gameplay i.e. early/mid/end

[ancient gyro]

or is 6 dollars too much

[wintry ice]

uh do thingd actually change if i drag stuff

[marsh dove]

wow the community rank for this tierlist is crazy

[vocal rose]

I think it sits comfortably where its at

[ancient gyro]

the ppl playing this game are crazy

[marsh dove]

obelisk is in D in the community ranking 💀

[vocal rose]

the 6 dollars is a little offputting

but its not too hard to get equal value back in one round

[steady hedge]

ah yes, a hand size of 2

my favorite

[vocal rose]

early game you likely arent able to use ALL hands for value since the last one you're probably playing a full house

thats just how its happened for me usually

[slow epoch]

o7

[pale wolf]

what, this is aggregated through every tier list made on this specific one?

[slow epoch]

Seed was MP999L73

[pale wolf]

rebate is in B?

[ancient gyro]

i took that personally

[marsh dove]

i dont like relying on drawing a full house for parking, isnt that inconsistent?

[ancient gyro]

what is this

[heady narwhal]

this is so bad

[vocal rose]

idk I just sent the link

[heady narwhal]

brainstorm in #2 ...

[vocal rose]

I edited the original one to my liking

[pale wolf]

ye its the community ranking someone mentioned

[heady narwhal]

(most minor flaw of the whole thing but still)

[marsh dove]

its probably the most common placement for each joker

[acoustic kettle]

B for busted clearly

[marsh dove]

or average

[rotund meadow]

@heady narwhal RHYTHM HEAVEN MONKEY MENTIONED 🔥

[wintry ice]

uh i think this is the most up to date version of my tier list

[ancient gyro]

b for bait

[marsh dove]

rebate in the same tier as bloodstone is crazy work

[wintry ice]

might move gift card to A

[ancient gyro]

woah

[pale wolf]

obelisk and glass joker in D is sickening

[marsh dove]

does the order within each tier mean anything here

[pale wolf]

oops forgot to reply

[vocal rose]

I could view it as an S tier

[acoustic kettle]

D??

[vocal rose]

but I cant have it the same tier as midas imo

[wintry ice]

no everything is just sorted by type

[marsh dove]

nvm if it did that would mean you rated cavendish < blackboard which doesnt make any sense

[marsh dove]

alr

campfire my goat ❤️

[steady hedge]

o7, ain't making it past this one

[ancient gyro]

gift requires a specific value generating benefit long term, I couldn't put it too high

[vocal rose]

mine is ordered within tiers

but it gets rough in the middle

[marsh dove]

rebate valued above yorick is interestin

[wintry ice]

bbc above wee...

[vocal rose]

its so good

[marsh dove]

midas above brainstorm and chad is crazy to me

maybe im undervaluing midas a crazy amount tho

[vocal rose]

I think it could go down a few spots

[vocal rose]

midas gives you insane value generation

[ancient gyro]

rebate is the first joker that comes into mind when discussing potential nerfs in the next patch

[pale wolf]

is this ordered??

[vocal rose]

for your ENTIRE run

[wintry ice]

no

[marsh dove]

riff raff feels better than lucky cat for me

[heady narwhal]

i think this is the correct placement personally

[wintry ice]

the jokers are sorted by type

[pale wolf]

again i keep asking things already answered smh

[vocal rose]

rebate is actually one of most talked about regarding unbalanced (ness)

[heady narwhal]

midas is a top 3 value generator

[marsh dove]

yeah but i just dont see it over jokers like brainstorm or perkeo

[unreal vine]

Nice

[pale wolf]

perkeo 😭😭

[marsh dove]

im probably not valuing it enough

[wintry ice]

i'd say it's on the same level as perkeo

[vocal rose]

you 100% arent valuing it enough

[marsh dove]

yeah but thats bc its a common no?

[vocal rose]

since I'd say its nearly a tier above them

[shy plank]

do i do it?

[unreal vine]

+vampire free win

[vocal rose]

nope

[marsh dove]

id still rather see a yorick than a rebate in a run

[vocal rose]

it could be a legendary and it'd be unbalanced

[pale wolf]

it's part of it

[wintry ice]

it would be overtuned regardless of rarity

[shy plank]

oh i realised i havent been in this server for a WHILE lol

[unreal vine]

Fr free win 0.5x mult almost every hand

[vocal rose]

no

[wintry ice]

rarity feels like it's more about how much taking a joker would affect your decisions later in the run

[unreal vine]

Photo chad 🤑

[shy plank]

do i take this photo?

or do i not be a greedy little twit?

[vocal rose]

brainstorm when it comes to value generator does come a little close but the fact that its very unoptimal when you have a +mult and x mult (you usually do) for scoring is what makes it lower

[ancient gyro]

so called midas touch 💭

[unreal vine]

Hmm

[shy plank]

wait was this server always without cooldown?

[wintry ice]

i think saving money would be better

[vocal rose]

but brainstorm isn't a "fuck I wish I got blueprint" its pog brainstorm this run is easier

[wintry ice]

summit carries you though the first 5 rounds

[unreal vine]

I'll personally take it but idk, interest maybe's good

[shy plank]

yeah

also this server was a little more alive

[marsh dove]

x2 isnt terrible

[shy plank]

is balatro niche now?

[unreal vine]

Nah

[vocal rose]

I used to undervalue perkeo a little bit but even with alot of reconsideration for it I can't put it above midas mask

[wintry ice]

i don't think brainstorm is worse enough than blueprint for it to be a lower tier than it

[vocal rose]

you genuinely get so much more value from midas than perkeo

[vocal rose]

I think it is

[wintry ice]

they can both multitask so

[vocal rose]

it isn't

[ancient gyro]

except it isn't an x2

[marsh dove]

the way i see perkeo is theres a lot of consumables i would personally value getting 1 of every round over a midas

[unreal vine]

Until 1.1 Balatro will just be a normal indie game

[vocal rose]

but it doesn't compare to blueprint

[shy plank]

1.1 IS STILL NOT OUT??

[shell dagger]

it’s only a 2x if you didnt take any planets

[wintry ice]

you still have to find the consumables to be able to copy them

[marsh dove]

for sure yeah

[shy plank]

IN THE HUMONGOUS '26?

[ancient gyro]

zawg we have other games to play

[vocal rose]

you have to go out of your way to obtain those

[wintry ice]

in the case of midas, you basically just need to draw face cards and you get the benefit for the rest of the run

even after selling it

[ancient gyro]

that requires you keeping perkeo -1 joker slot where midas retains value post sell process

[shy plank]

tell that to the roblox players who have like 5 good games

[marsh dove]

ill value midas more over the next while see how it goes

[shy plank]

and one of them is "good"

[sullen lintel]

this run would go crazy on plasma

[marsh dove]

i do usually take it but maybe im not valuing it highly enough if i think perkeo better

ill see

[vocal rose]

this run still goes crazy

[vocal rose]

well

it isn't a black and white difference

perkeo is still very good value generator

I can comfortably put them in the same tier

[pale wolf]

??

[wintry ice]

i don't respect roblox enough to call anything there good

[shy plank]

chat cooldown

[marsh dove]

what hand and what hand level

[shy plank]

yknow, the annoying discord thing

also hi zebra

[marsh dove]

also whaat are they on

curious

[vocal rose]

you can 100% put perkeo above midas mask and I'd be okay with it

[ancient gyro]

juice event

[vocal rose]

since the difference isn't too crazy

[shy plank]

YOU SAID JUICE?

[vocal rose]

oh NO

[marsh dove]

what

[sullen lintel]

not a lot of earth showing up rn

[shell dagger]

what about chicot vs midas mask

[ancient gyro]

i would have some issues

[sullen lintel]

building towards 5oak soon?

[wintry ice]

is rocket or cloud 9 4th place

[pale wolf]

definitely wasnt slow mode last time you were on though

so idk

[vocal rose]

I'd have a minor grievance

but anything that belongs within the same tier is

good enough for me

[ancient gyro]

for econ jokers?

[vocal rose]

c9 is 3rd

[ancient gyro]

fair enough

[timid spire]

Can anyone please explain why is straight giving higher bonus than flush both at lvl 3

[sullen lintel]

why do people have beef w full house

[shell dagger]

Straights are harder to deckfix for

[vocal rose]

its ah

[shell dagger]

And slightly more brainpower is needed to draw them compared to flush

[wintry ice]

it doesn't have enough of a benefit over 3oak to be worth using over it

you trade consistency for 5 chips per level

[ancient gyro]

planet scaling and on scoring joker is too niche with existing safer alternatives

[vocal rose]

and this is a little controversial as well but I have gift card > rocket

[pale wolf]

lmfao full house rtb run pog

[vocal rose]

its so ah

[ancient gyro]

this one is interesting

[wintry ice]

two pairs are better for on-scoring anyways

[vocal rose]

they're right next to each other

lmao

[marsh dove]

the scaling is not good enough to justify how much deck fixing you need for a proper full house run

[pale wolf]

zoahl

[vocal rose]

hi

[vocal rose]

it is

[pale wolf]

it bothers me that c9 is below golden on your list even if its not ordered within tiers

[ancient gyro]

I don't think I'll rate rocket higher than gift but it's very close

[sudden river]

I died to the spade boss. My entire deck was hearts.

[pale wolf]

lol

[vocal rose]

whar

[ancient gyro]

you didn't have to say that 💔

[pale wolf]

wait

oh i misremembered

[ancient gyro]

bruh

[vocal rose]

I think it

[acoustic kettle]

[vocal rose]

used to be that way though

[pale wolf]

vic's

[vocal rose]

😭

[sudden river]

I was running polychrome redseal jacks with a sock and oops but no bloodstone and died to the ante scaling before ante 8

[shell dagger]

why bones A

[ancient gyro]

vic def didn't update here lol

[vocal rose]

other way around?

or was that correct

[vocal rose]

so good

[wintry ice]

i could probably move golden to B

[vocal rose]

just a controlled 4x

it can actually just be your win con

[wintry ice]

it's still huge for earlygame but it being in the same tier as a direct upgrade is

inconsistent

[wintry ice]

that could be B too

[shy plank]

jiggle my balls to Niagra Falls if im seeing this wrong, but is this FREE 10 MULT joker EXACTLY a dollar more than what i have

[ancient gyro]

ill take c9 with more debuff stickers than golden

[vocal rose]

black deck moment

[shell dagger]

i usually just see it as a button that when pressed now ends the game at ante 7 boss

[pale wolf]

honestly c9 may not be that huge of a difference over golden, i can see them being far apart in the same tier

[wintry ice]

oh it's not the up to date one

[vocal rose]

take that diamond though

[ancient gyro]

i see

[shell dagger]

or slightly worse luchador

[shy plank]

flush gaming run?

[wintry ice]

the up to date version has actually descriptive tiers

[vocal rose]

nope

just to keep you alive

for now

[shy plank]

why not doe?

[vocal rose]

because flushes stink esp on black deck

two pairs on black deck>

[pale wolf]

flush is not the way, survival is

[wintry ice]

the sinful jokers aren't enough of a justification to commit to them

[pale wolf]

greem stake

[shy plank]

not too fond of twopairs

[wintry ice]

why?

[vocal rose]

they're great on black deck and plasma

[shy plank]

it's TWO pairs, why waste TWO pairs if you can make one

[vocal rose]

they're decent usually

[wintry ice]

"it's not the best hand in the game so it sucks"

[shell dagger]

why waste TWO high cards if yoy can make one

inconsistent logic

[pale wolf]

what

[shy plank]

i forgot yall cant take a joke in this server mb

[pale wolf]

why play two pairs when you could play one two pair

:^)

[shy plank]

to be completely honest im just not a fan of twopair because for some reason to get two pairs it takes a lot of luck for me

[wintry ice]

why play 1 joke when you can play 2 half jokes

you get 40 mult instead of 4

[pale wolf]

why buy jimbo when you could buy half jimbo

so truth

[shy plank]

ok now yall are getting REAL

[ancient gyro]

two pairs are double the planet scaling chips on plasma and more joker accessible on black

[shy plank]

deadass tho

[sullen lintel]

520 chip wee + 50 chip foil is pretty good for no retriggers

[shy plank]

why is half jimbo better than jimbo

[pale wolf]

and also more scoring dense than pair

[slow epoch]

Yeah for sure it has great synergy with green deck

[shy plank]

you're admitting pair is the best hand in the game?

[sullen lintel]

cuz of his struggles he gets stronger and also racist towards higher hand sizes

[ancient gyro]

the other half will make an appearance in 1.1

[pale wolf]

oh god

[shell dagger]

1.8x not double 🤓

[pale wolf]

exodia

[atomic trout]

Seed or no?

[pale wolf]

it makes : Jimbo

[acoustic kettle]

Because

Jimbo is 4

[shell dagger]

yeah take it!!!!!!!

[ancient gyro]

googoogaga

[acoustic kettle]

Rip it in half it is 2

[pale wolf]

half of 4 is 20

[shy plank]

amazing explenation

[pale wolf]

420?

[acoustic kettle]

2 and missing half is 0
20

20 mult

[shy plank]

ok wait

ELITE ball tech here

[ancient gyro]

ppl don't say 420 anymore 💔

[atomic trout]

Awww maaaaan

[shy plank]

imagine broski actually predicts the other half

[shell dagger]

they do in btd6 circles 💔

[atomic trout]

It didn't do shit!

[ancient gyro]

what is btd6

[shell dagger]

forgot

[ancient gyro]

doesn't sound copyrighted enough

[acoustic kettle]

Sound like a disease idk

[placid haven]

X-mult jokers are the best. Change my mind

[ancient gyro]

I only know std6

[pale wolf]

you're on 6?

[ancient gyro]

im on the floor

my new router QR is sending me to a dead link

[median nova]

What are the odds man

[dreamy girder]

MY FIRST NATURAL NEGATIVR

[dreamy girder]

Holy lucky

[shy plank]

will it solo?

[median nova]

Wdym

[vocal rose]

not on green stake

[placid haven]

NO SHOT LOOK WHAT I GOT JUST NOW

I think we are bluetooth connected

[ancient gyro]

repping my 5 hs water pot build I see

[heavy heron]

i meannnn.. it could… with a lot of levels on a planet maybe

but without eternals, it’d be rough

[placid haven]

Merry andy + stuntman = diabolical hand size

[ancient gyro]

we make do

[eternal pumice]

[rancid crown]

Brainstorming it

[dreamy girder]

IT WAS FORTOLD

[placid haven]

I am you from another timeline

[willow ice]

i just had wheel of fortune activate on my egg

[rancid crown]

Egg of fortune

[willow ice]

do i keep it

[rancid crown]

depends if you need/want it

[willow ice]

I USED FOOL ON THE WHEEL OF FORTUNE AND IT POLYCHROMED MY HOLOGRAM

holy cow

[rancid crown]

Nice

[tardy flower]

im running an ancient build, with bloodstone, photochad, ancient and trib. i have 9 wild cards. do i use a strength on 2 queens or do i take temperance?

[rancid crown]

How much money do you have? and how much is temperence?

[tardy flower]

temperance is 18 dollars and i have 128, i also have both seed money and money tree

[rancid crown]

then you dont need temperence

[tardy flower]

i'll strengthen the queens then

they're both wild btw

ty

[rancid crown]

np

[tardy flower]

found a dusk

no idea if to take it or not

i think not...

[light tide]

😭🙏

[hexed tundra]

So uhh.... I got my first perkeo and uhmmm.... I forgot I had the dagger..... And uh ...... Yeah......

[sullen lintel]

anaglyph deck is my GOAT

so is hologram

[tardy flower]

don't take dagger unless you're on black, blue, purple, orange or gold stake. only take dagger (and/or madness) when it's next to an eternal. otherwise it's useless and wastes money and jokers

[sullen lintel]

anaglyph dropped me like 5 cryptids and familiars from spectral tags

[rich mauve]

ngl foil dagger looks cool

[hexed tundra]

Itsbicositwaslaminated🥺

[wintry lynx]

defeated by the crimson heart..

[tardy flower]

can't argue with that logic 🤷

[hexed tundra]

I didn't know dagger and eternal synergy, ty

[tardy flower]

np

roffle helped me learn that

[warm acorn]

Hi I'm new to the game, should I take the ancient joker or not ? If yes what should I remove ?

[tardy flower]

you're new and you're on blue stake? holy

also, depends on what your deck looks like

[warm acorn]

Yh I started like 7 days ago and I love this game so I just play it every time

[tardy flower]

oh k gotcha

[warm acorn]

There's nothing just the basics card

[tardy flower]

you shouldn't have taken the eternal baron...

don't worry abt it tho

[warm acorn]

It was in the very first joker pack

[sullen lintel]

i would have

[tardy flower]

why? their deck is the regular one

[sullen lintel]

for future deck fixing
they have ghost deck so its not like they wont have cryptids and familiars at their disposal

[rancid crown]

Since you have baorn mime going i dont think you need to pivot into ancient joker

Baron*

[tardy flower]

fair, they're on ante 2

[sullen lintel]

yeah thats like ideal time to get baron and mime

[tardy flower]

point proven i suppose

yours not mine :P

[manic zealot]

madness.exe

[ivory portal]

guysss

My new high scrore

And I beat black stake

This is the set up

[rancid crown]

White stake plasma deck is so fire

[rancid crown]

Niceee