🕹・game-discussion

[icy hollow]

Shouldve taken smth other than flower pot tbh but whatever

[heavy heron]

since i was getting by with 3-4 flushes

[pale wolf]

did you have troubador

[heavy heron]

at some point

[heavy heron]

i saw it

skipped for the same reason

plus my hand size was 9 (10?)

which is enough for me

[pale wolf]

lol where was all your scoring

[heavy heron]

did you see my video

[pale wolf]

did yall not get the crafty

[hallow wadi]

I sold it

[heavy heron]

that’s my scoring

LOOLLL

[hallow wadi]

But that was later

[terse vale]

na I couldn’t

cus scaling

[heavy heron]

sold the supernova for seltzer becuase i had justice and i knew i could prob find my poly queen

though didn't need it

[terse vale]

and score

[heavy heron]

my flush is high level because

i took the

constelllation

did yall?

[hallow wadi]

Yeah

[terse vale]

no

[heavy heron]

NOT CONSTELLATION

THE

[pale wolf]

wait where'd the second canio come from

[heavy heron]

the... voucher

i forgot what it's called

[terse vale]

this was my final roster

[heavy heron]

there was an invisible

[willow frost]

telescope?

[heavy heron]

telescope

yes that

[hallow wadi]

There was an invisible joker

[pale wolf]

where

[terse vale]

ya

I kinda had to

[heavy heron]

uhhh ante 6 or 7

[pale wolf]

i totally wouldve taken it

[heavy heron]

rental invisible

[terse vale]

I forgot but it was rental too

[heavy heron]

i skipped it

couldn't risk it copying abstract

[hallow wadi]

It was right after the Herioglyph ante

Iirc

[pale wolf]

i can pretend rental invis is actually a better value even though its not

its only like 3 dollars worse

[heavy heron]

did you guys take the telescope?

my flush was lvl 26

which i knew in itself would be just fine with glass and the polychrome

[pale wolf]

i didnt consider it but i totally shouldve

all things considered i just focused on canio

[hallow wadi]

Yeah but I couldn't find any flushes to hold for the observatory later

[heavy heron]

what did you guys use your deaths on?

i used my deaths on the blue seal 10

[hallow wadi]

Mostly glass face cards

[pale wolf]

glass

[heavy heron]

and took every blue seal from the packs

to break face cards? yea i was thinking that

[hallow wadi]

There were a few glass 7s I deathed cause I had no options

[pale wolf]

planets are nothing compared to canio scaling

[heavy heron]

but i figured it was risky if glass never broke

so i took the safer route

[hallow wadi]

But Parei made those pay off

[heavy heron]

and took blue seals

[cursive crater]

do i take burger

[nova elk]

how come I scored 1.5m in the first hand at ante 8, and didn't unlock the joker for it?

[heavy heron]

i say risky but

i mean that it may not have paid out

even though glass is just good to have

i can see both plays

but both win either way

[terse vale]

yeah blue seals

I had 3 by the end

[heavy heron]

for black deck i think it's pretty good

[heavy heron]

i had uhh lemme see

[terse vale]

and I missed out on like 3 mercury levels due to my incompetence with observatory value

[ancient gyro]

son of a bitch

[heavy heron]

yeah 3 blue seals

[hallow wadi]

I had none blue seals I wasn't taking the standard packs I should've taken more

[heavy heron]

same

[heavy heron]

what a shame..

zebra did you screenshot your final hand?

i didn't see

thanks btw

[pale wolf]

it was 1.3mil but i didnt do the cards

just the deck

1 hand

[heavy heron]

BRO

YOU TOOK THE

YOU ENDED THE GAME WITH THE CRAFTY?

LOOLLL

[nova elk]

how come I scored 1.5m in the first hand at ante 8, and didn't unlock the joker for it? won first time on red deck finally

[pale wolf]

well yea i didnt have chips

and it got foiled

[heavy heron]

my supernova got foiled

[fervent plover]

guys just a doubt

[heavy heron]

that's funny

[pale wolf]

thats why i didnt need planets

[heavy heron]

though i sold foil

[fervent plover]

so in red stake, u always skip small blinds?

[heavy heron]

i didn't need chips i got planets

[pale wolf]

they'd only give me like 2x

[heavy heron]

okay fair

your flush was only level 6

wow

[vocal rose]

nope

[heavy heron]

yeah you needed crafty

100%

[pale wolf]

well i didnt need planets bc i had crafty

[heavy heron]

no no

[mellow cypress]

You're still missing a shoo

[heavy heron]

the shop is still worth looking at

[mellow cypress]

Shop

And interest

[heavy heron]

try not to skip in general

[mellow cypress]

And value from playing the round

[hallow wadi]

I ended the game with a level one flush house and no chips I had so much xMult

[pale wolf]

its kinda free with supernova crafty checkered, canio is an afterthought

[mellow cypress]

Ante 1 invest tag worth

[heavy heron]

oh yeah? well i didn't need crafty because i had planets!

[fervent plover]

but u dont get any interest ye?

[pale wolf]

sounded harder

[hallow wadi]

Enough flush levels to get me by before that but

[heavy heron]

also you took the polychrome queen that's funny

i took it too

[hallow wadi]

Really funny how that didn't matter for the last hand

[pale wolf]

i took it bc i wanted to destroy it

[calm furnace]

fortune teller so insanely goated

[heavy heron]

i knew i'd prob never find it again or get a chance to death it

but i took it anyway

[vocal rose]

you do

[calm furnace]

teller scaling without being in your hand is hella clutch

[heavy heron]

i did get a chance to death it but opted for blue seal

[fervent wolf]

Repost

[pale wolf]

I'm playing bologna

[calm furnace]

5 antes 0 scoring jokers found. my only scoring jokers were jimbo and a banana that popped

then teller comes and saves the run

[pale wolf]

wait is this seed chat stuff

[hallow wadi]

I didn't

[pale wolf]

never considered it

[heavy heron]

also where tf did you get the duo from

i never saw it

[terse vale]

like at the big blind of ante 7

[heavy heron]

oh wow

never saw it

[terse vale]

I rerolled a bit cus I needed more Xmult

[fervent plover]

but it says red stake gives no reward moni

what is reward moni?

[ancient gyro]

ight

[heavy heron]

that is true, but you get money from hands and interest

[nova elk]

jeez

[fervent plover]

did i win red stake without knowing what it does?

[heavy heron]

so if you have $25, you will gain $5

and 3 hands remaining, that's $3

plus money jokers

such as golden joker, mail-in rebate

delayed gratification

and sometimes you exit small blind without gaining any money, it happens

[fervent plover]

then what is reward moni?

[heavy heron]

you don't get reward money (for completing the blind)

you gain money through the methods i just said

[fervent plover]

yea but what is reward moni?

[calm furnace]

?

[heavy heron]

it's money you get for completing a blind

small blind $3

big blind $4

boss blind $5

[fervent plover]

so yet moni from blind seperatly from interest?

[heavy heron]

small blind no $$$ if red stake+

[heavy heron]

yes yes

it is separate

so for example

[fervent plover]

oooh

ok

understood

[heavy heron]

if i play big blind and win with $25 in my pocket, and 3 hands remaining

i will get

[fervent wolf]

I hate how high card is my most played hand

[heavy heron]

$4 reward
$3 (3 hands remaining)
$5 (interest)

so $12

[fervent plover]

but with red stake

[heavy heron]

yes

so small blind

you get

[fervent plover]

its 8

[heavy heron]

$0 reward
$1-3 based on how many hands left
$1-5 based on how much interest

[fervent wolf]

My white stake win after c++

[heavy heron]

you gain $1 for every $5 you have, as interest (max $25)

and $1 for every hand remaining left when you finish the blind

[fervent plover]

aha

so other than reward everything else

works

got it

[heavy heron]

yes

[fervent plover]

well.. onto green stake now

hope i can win tht

[heavy heron]

good luck! it gets a little harder

[fervent plover]

just hope i dont get super high blind otw

[heavy heron]

blinds are a little higher

[fervent plover]

yea

[heavy heron]

for example ante 8 boss goes from

100,000

to 200,000

[fervent plover]

imagine super high boss with green

[heavy heron]

and violet vessel goes from 300,000 to 600,000

[heavy heron]

yeah it's scary HAHA

you'll have to prepare and get used to it!

[fervent plover]

well... time to get an 'e'

[heavy heron]

yesss e time

[vocal rose]

erm

[ancient gyro]

speaking of vv

[fervent wolf]

It's easy

Imo

[vocal rose]

i dont think its time to get an E

[fervent plover]

life cld be dream
life cld be dream

woooooo!!!!!

[heavy heron]

crazy

[vocal rose]

very unnecessary for beating green stake

[heavy heron]

boom boom boom shaboom

yo zoahl let the man live

we all want an e sometimes

[fervent plover]

yea, the way i said seems like tht reel where he says ill defeat marget and then go complete sekiero

[junior cave]

You were already told this. Removal of money in small blinds means that you must learn how to manage your money for interest

[naive cove]

The only real stakes in the game are white, black, and gold. Everything else is filler, don’t @ me.

[heavy heron]

i explained it already dw

[calm furnace]

did you ever do deep endless runs?

[vocal rose]

most intelligible sentence ever spoken

[calm furnace]

high card is my most played hand too

[naive cove]

Pair is my highest

[calm furnace]

few endless runs + using high cards as discards

[naive cove]

Pair is such an insanely reliable build

[vocal rose]

indeed

[naive cove]

Pair won’t get you far into endless but it’s more meant to win the run

[pale wolf]

wtf

[fervent plover]

{{FoX}}

[serene forge]

pairs are annoyingly effective but I don't know how you nerf them without making them trash

[hallow wadi]

High Card is my highest

I'm too skeptical of my luck to do Pairs often

[warped moth]

By making other hands more consistent ig

[vocal rose]

reduce chip scaling and make the other higher hands more valuable

[naive cove]

Just buff the other harder hands to play

[warped moth]

Aka by changing blue stake hopefully probably possibly

[calm furnace]

nerf mercury

[ancient gyro]

-1 hand +2 discards blue stake rework, change black deck to -1 discard, other changes, nerf blue seals, etc

[naive cove]

Don’t nerf shit just buff

[heavy heron]

to what?

[heavy heron]

JESUSS GOOD LORD

YOUR DECK

[serene forge]

I don't think you can nerf mercury when pluto is just 5 chips behind it

[heavy heron]

that's what i'm saying

you can't nerf mercury chips

[pale wolf]

nah that would just make the entire game easier

[ancient gyro]

history shouldn't repeat itself

[heavy heron]

15 is high, but 10 is just pluto

[pale wolf]

i like the difficulty

[serene forge]

I guess pairs do have more xmult options though

[long oxide]

Should I get rid of canio

[heavy heron]

ahh my 12.5 chips mercury

[naive cove]

If you want difficulty just play gold stake

[serene forge]

so maybe it could work

[pale wolf]

???

[heavy heron]

you really can't nerf mercury

you can only buff the other planets

i mean deserved, anyway

[pale wolf]

are you thinking

[naive cove]

???

[warped moth]

It's not that pair is op or anything. It's just very consistent and the chips are good, when nothing else is that consistent while having synergies rn

[heavy heron]

full house for sure deserves a buff

[fervent wolf]

I do have big deck, yes

[junior cave]

I think the planet cards are fine as is. Maybe Earth but it's just Full House not being a great consistent hand usually

[naive cove]

Full house needs a super buff

[pale wolf]

i like the way gold stake is now, your change would make it easier

[vocal rose]

you can

just nerf pluto too

[heavy heron]

NO WAY

[vocal rose]

+1 +5

[heavy heron]

bro

[warped moth]

YES

[pale wolf]

saying "play gold stake" is stupid, im already doing that 😭

[heavy heron]

nerfing pluto before nerfing mercury is insanity

[serene forge]

ehhhhhhhh

[naive cove]

Play it harder then

[vocal rose]

high card and pairs are the most over centralized hands for gold stake consistency

[ancient gyro]

in a way there should be a purpose for higher ranking poker hands to not completely rely on finding x mult if that makes sense

[serene forge]

im saying because when I play gs i get shoved into pair builds even when I explicitly try not to play them

[vocal rose]

if you ARENT playing those two you're likely being unoptimal

[heavy heron]

but there's no way high card is less strong than mercury

[serene forge]

because pairs just work with so many things

[heavy heron]

disagree

wait until you find out andolth likes 2 pair

[serene forge]

you need a really good reason to not be playing pairs

[naive cove]

Yeah, give me my god damn +1 discard back so I can play 4 of a kinds

[pale wolf]

lots of people like 2pair

[ancient gyro]

oh

[vocal rose]

thats not really something you can disagree with

[heavy heron]

i just did

[naive cove]

2 pair is fun but trousers is hard to find

[serene forge]

trousers is a pair joker

[vocal rose]

the most consistent hands for gold stake consistency is those two

[heavy heron]

i found an ancient joker and playing flushes, how unoptimal of me

[naive cove]

Trousers are kinda necessary to scale

[heavy heron]

i found trousers and playing 2 pair, how unoptimal of me

[vocal rose]

it is a little controversial

[ancient gyro]

2 pair works with a lot of jokers and trousers isn't a 2 pair specific joker

[vocal rose]

but I think those two can be nerfed

[fervent wolf]

My first gold stake win was with trousers and 2 pair

[naive cove]

Teehee I’m such a silly bich.

[heavy heron]

2 pair is easily an optimal hand

[vocal rose]

comfortably at that

[heavy heron]

easily

[vocal rose]

when pairs exist

no

[pale wolf]

2pair exceeds pairs on black and plasma :p

[serene forge]

I hate Plasma Deck

[vocal rose]

yes

[heavy heron]

also when blue gets reworked, bigger hands will likely be more viable

[ancient gyro]

if blue seal gets nerfed, I can see a purpose to inflate higher poker hand chips and mult so they have some reasonable weight for scoring on their own

[serene forge]

how do you nerf blue seal though

[ancient gyro]

since x mult more or less is strictly more consistent with smaller poker hands

[heavy heron]

nerfing blue seal is crazy

[serene forge]

because old blue seal was trash

[potent tree]

1 in 2 chance to give a planet card

[heavy heron]

LOOLLLL

[vocal rose]

I'd agree but theres too much speculation on what that rework could be to have a proper conversation regarding the planet scaling

[heavy heron]

i like that

[pale wolf]

this doesnt solve the issue where you just fill your hand with blue seals

[heavy heron]

1/2 of blue seal actually working

[potent tree]

make it bloodstone odds

and you'll be happy

[pale wolf]

the way to nerf blue seals is to make them affected by card blocking

[tired kestrel]

I've got no scoring but i got alot of saturns

[serene forge]

you should be imprisoned for even suggesting that idea

[heavy heron]

so blue seal is getting nerfed?

is that true?

[pale wolf]

no double planets without showman

likely

[vocal rose]

its getting reworked I believe?

[torn bobcat]

Hi guys

[vocal rose]

not necessarily nerfed

[heavy heron]

again..

[vocal rose]

yes

which is a GOOD thing

[serene forge]

1 planet a round is still super strong though i feel like

[pale wolf]

any rework worth its salt would have to be a nerf

[pale wolf]

it is but it isnt as nuts as blue seal currently is

[vocal rose]

yeah its likely a nerf

[serene forge]

I guess

[vocal rose]

I mean that just dumbs it down to burnt joker level

[ancient gyro]

it wouldnt change much

[serene forge]

I want 0.5x obelisk back

[vocal rose]

which still is

very broken

[torn bobcat]

So i was facing plant and selled six sense for the x4 if four of a kind and then in the other shop i got chicot

[heavy heron]

nice

just don't die with idol being there

[serene forge]

i hate The Idol

[pale wolf]

they'd be good but they wouldnt be the central pillar of your build once you get one

[tired kestrel]

The seal no longer gives you a card and just upgrades the respective hand directly maybe?, or it has a chance to give you a planet for every card played on your winning hand

[torn bobcat]

Not my problem

[ancient gyro]

or mime

[pale wolf]

hmm shmaybe

[vocal rose]

theres only 3 cases of this happening iirc which make the game boring for me

[heavy heron]

interesting

[vocal rose]

being rebate pairs and blue seal

[heavy heron]

so if i play a flush with a blue seal in it, my flush gets upgraded?

i mean

that sounds decent

means you can't get 2 in one round unless you're weak

[vocal rose]

so if I stack 3-5 blue seals in my hand

[heavy heron]

no it only works once

[vocal rose]

I can get that respective amount of upgrades?

or am I reading it wrong

[tired kestrel]

Yea smth like that

[heavy heron]

WOAH NOO

[pale wolf]

how is that a nerf?!

[vocal rose]

like

[heavy heron]

if i could play 5 seals in my hand

and get 5 levels

nono noLOOLLL

[vocal rose]

this seems like a buff to it

[heavy heron]

NAHHH

[vocal rose]

lmao

[pale wolf]

the first one

[heavy heron]

just 1 level

sounds fair

[tired kestrel]

uuuuh idk

[heavy heron]

like even if you have 5 seals in hand

it only works once

[fervent plover]

wht do u guys think?

[heavy heron]

why is zoahl adding to my messages

[vocal rose]

decent

[heavy heron]

i know you play white stake

it's ok

dw

[vocal rose]

get voucher and sell sock for 8 ball

[fervent plover]

i meant if i should switch any joker out

[tired kestrel]

Well the initial idea was that i wanna nerf the pair and high card blue seals while keeping the rest mostly the same

[vocal rose]

that would buff them

[fervent plover]

but 8 ball sucks tbh

[tired kestrel]

shiiii

[fervent plover]

cause specificly 8

[tired kestrel]

idk nerfing blue seals is hard

[heavy heron]

andolth moment

[vocal rose]

since you arent gonna be able to hold more blue seals in hand if you're playing higher hand types

[torn bobcat]

7

[vocal rose]

it doesnt

[fervent plover]

i corrected it

[heavy heron]

if only i knew what a u7981 was

[torn bobcat]

8 ball is like monolith

[heavy heron]

yo zoahl can i see your stats sometime

out of curiosity

[vocal rose]

sometimes

[torn bobcat]

You take it when is good to take it

[vocal rose]

they're heavily skewed

on my first profile I was a nanlet

[heavy heron]

can i see your most used planets actually

i'm curious

[fervent plover]

and this time im focusing on face cards for replay

[torn bobcat]

The plant 👀

[potent tree]

molten armor

[terse vale]

suck is a harsh word

[fervent plover]

ahem, ill somehow deal with it

[torn bobcat]

Vudú guide

Epic shi

[potent tree]

january 27

[fervent plover]

apologize if it souinded offensive, just was my opinion

[torn bobcat]

Sure sure

[heavy heron]

is this your main profile? like most played?

[vocal rose]

no this was my second c++ account

[vocal rose]

I can show you my first profile lol

[torn bobcat]

Pair Best meta

[ancient gyro]

wonky stuff so far

[heavy heron]

is this your main profile

[sullen apex]

what if i have 8 blue seals in hand would i get 8 levels?

[tired kestrel]

WAit holdon, what if blue seals guaranteed for a planet card to show up in the shop instead

[ancient gyro]

current black deck profile

[terse vale]

I know! you’re fine though
I just think that a lot of people underrate 8ball

[heavy heron]

i see

[tired kestrel]

Nono you'd have to get one

[heavy heron]

i've only had one profile

[sullen apex]

seals need to happen in round, having them trigger in the shop kind of messes up the shop queue

[vocal rose]

ill try show my stats again once I do C+ deathless

[calm furnace]

reverb back to old blue seals

[heavy heron]

yea sure

[sullen apex]

thats hard to communicate to the player that only 1 seal will work because no other enhancement, seal or edition works that way

[heavy heron]

so it just doesn't have anything to do w planets

[heavy heron]

holy endless player

[vocal rose]

yep

crazy nanlet player

[sullen apex]

cause then mime would also not work with it

[tired kestrel]

ig you could just add it next to the other cards like overstock

[fervent wolf]

-Looks inside
-Photochad
-disappointment

[tired kestrel]

Yea the idea isn't that good either way i wouldn't worry about it

[vocal rose]

this was my first profile lol

[heavy heron]

i'm pretty sure everybody who plays gold stake ante 8 strictly will have photo and chad somewhere in top joker stats

even though that was endless but yea

[sullen apex]

if there is a nerf it would probably be a probability chance. Blue seals are extremely powerful, but you still need to get one which there are only a handful of ways to do so

[heavy heron]

because they're just commons, and both decent ones

so it'll always appear on the list

[fervent wolf]

Chad is amazing

[sullen apex]

but im just guessin

[fervent wolf]

Photo I hate

[sullen apex]

thats cause youre not laughing at it every time you look at it

[calm furnace]

chad is like top 5 uncommons

mail, red card, cav, riff and chad

commons*

[heavy heron]

main?

[fervent wolf]

Sadly I did this

[nova elk]

is cryptid more fun than regular balatro with mods?

[heavy heron]

oh male in

MAIL*

LOOLLL

[calm furnace]

chad doesnt even need photo to be good

[vocal rose]

subjective

try it out and see

[vale wharf]

What do we KNOW about 1.1?

[serene forge]

female in

nonbinary in

[fervent wolf]

It's an update in Balatro

I think

[weak seal]

gambling Gambling GAMBLING IS THIS ALL I EVER DO

[heavy heron]

we do love a judgment gamble

[vocal rose]

this run is

easy

[fervent plover]

guys, do i replace with anything?

[vocal rose]

yes

sock

you replace sock

[fervent wolf]

I hate that photo made top 10

[fervent plover]

but have so many face cards, cause sock was kinda good

[hexed tundra]

Check this mega Buffon pack

[fervent wolf]

Showman and Bones obvious play

[weak seal]

why hiker

[fervent plover]

bruh, u got two of the best ones

[hexed tundra]

Sure...

[fervent plover]

damn

[fervent wolf]

Ew AJ tho

[hexed tundra]

What did AJ stand for? I'm new in the game

[fervent wolf]

Ancient Joker

[weak seal]

abbreviation of ancient joker

[hexed tundra]

Oh yeah

Ty

I mean.. kinda worked... Finished at like ante 12, but worked

[fervent plover]

what do i do?

do i replace with golden joker?

[latent iron]

how do i get legendarys

[hexed tundra]

Soul cards

[fervent plover]

cause it seems more reasonable since i kinda have enough moni to survive

[latent iron]

ive never got one bruh

[fervent plover]

and u get mostly through spectral and tarrot cards

[hexed tundra]

I mean, it seems like a good replace

[hexed tundra]

It's rare

[fervent plover]

hehe

[latent iron]

i have 19 hours

[weak seal]

rarer than rare

[hexed tundra]

Don't marry with legendary ones, there is better rare jokers

[hexed tundra]

It's super rare, don't worry

[latent iron]

like what

[hexed tundra]

Wut

[latent iron]

i have played alot with very few wins

[hexed tundra]

Ehhh, ngl, 19 hours is not that much if I'm being honest

[latent iron]

whats that

[hexed tundra]

You probably have more hours watching the Netflix menu

[hexed tundra]

Nothing, dw

[latent iron]

i dont know what to pick tho

[fervent plover]

#🕹・game-discussion message
this was the only time i got two at once

[hexed tundra]

The plant is coming

[fervent plover]

lets see

im praying super hard rn

[junior cave]

0.3% chance to find one

[latent iron]

oh

what are some cool seeds so i can get legendary

[weak seal]

oh yeah and btw
is HTR any good?

[junior cave]

Nope

Hit the Road imo is the worst rare joker

[weak seal]

ah

[obtuse shuttle]

Guys, this morning I did naneinf and this happened, the game crashed. I'm scared. Is there an expert who knows about this?

[mortal nimbus]

Reloading the saved run after reaching naneinf crashes after trying to play a hand

[obtuse shuttle]

i need do new run?

[mortal nimbus]

Yeah, you can’t progress from here

[obtuse shuttle]

Is it normal for my best hand to be 0 chips?

[vocal rose]

whenever you reload a naneinf run this happens

[vocal rose]

yes

[obtuse shuttle]

i cant save forever naneinf in best hand? haha

[mortal nimbus]

I think you can, but you need to be extremely close to the exact value, I recall seeing it done once but I couldn’t tell you exactly how or when, or if they had any mods. Don’t take this statement as fact

[obtuse shuttle]

So it's normal that after achieving naneinf there's no record, right? Not even if I finished the run losing?

because when loading the game I couldn't force myself to lose

[mortal nimbus]

Yeah, the score just breaks, and you need to start a new run

[obtuse shuttle]

good, thank you!

[vocal rose]

who would've thought

breaking the game breaks the game

[obtuse shuttle]

Is so crazy

but I am so happy, is my first naneinf

[fervent plover]

no way in at this point something other than the plant beats me

[weak seal]

rip 🪦

[obtuse shuttle]

I just wanted to continue the run, even though I knew I would lose to the boss ante 32

[manic zealot]

):

[obtuse shuttle]

I have another question out of curiosity: if I hadn't left the game and had continued playing after the naneinf, could I have kept playing (I was at ante 26, so I suppose up to ante 32)?

[mortal nimbus]

Yeah, you could continue on

[fervent plover]

well i lost. it is what it is

[obtuse shuttle]

thank you!

[manic zealot]

you would've had to reset your profile's high score first, there's a website that lets you do that

[vocal rose]

if you had enough money to roll down for the serpent every ante

yes

[fervent plover]

@hexed tundra still not play HA {{FoX}}

[vocal rose]

until ante 32

[obtuse shuttle]

thank you

I'll try not to close the game again

[obtuse shuttle]

I do not understand, why?

[manic zealot]

naneinf causes your game to crash if you score it and then leave your game and come back to the same game

it's a weird glitch

[obtuse shuttle]

So if I use naneinf even if I don't exit the game, it still crashes?

[manic zealot]

no, only if you exit the game file and then return, like continue from the main menu to the same game

[fervent wolf]

My official tier list after c++

[manic zealot]

I'm curious, what makes you put blackboard in B

[obtuse shuttle]

So if I hadn't left, I could have continued? Awesome!

[manic zealot]

yea

[obtuse shuttle]

thank you!

[hexed tundra]

Huh?

[obtuse shuttle]

In my opinion, having ante 39 is impossible in a plasma deck, right?
Sorry, I have many doubts

[fervent plover]

i mean still did not get plant tho

[vocal rose]

flash card in the same tier as midas, mime, gift card, blackboard, vampire

[fervent plover]

and chance of getting in last ante is very low

imagine

[vocal rose]

no it isnt

[fervent plover]

the luck

[vocal rose]

I can comfortably say blueprint is a tier higher than brainstorm as well

[fervent wolf]

One of the only jokers that synergizes with the downside of things like merry Andy, ecto, stuntman...etc

[obtuse shuttle]

Doesn't it appear earlier? Because Plasma Deck requires more chips per boss?

[fervent wolf]

Yeah, I agree actually

[vocal rose]

This doesn't make it a B tier though

in fact thats actually a good thing going for it

[manic zealot]

it's possible if you have an early Perkeo and the observatory voucher, and if you have a blueprint/brainstorm to make tons of negative planets for your hand you're playing towards

[fervent wolf]

Multiple BP can copy Multiple things, Multiple Brainstorm can only copy one thing

[vocal rose]

if you're playing pairs (the consistent winning method) the blackboard x mult condition is basically nonexistent

[fervent wolf]

I play straights a lot

[vocal rose]

idk this tierlist is

not the best tbh

you dont have crazy picks like baron at S tier though

which is good

[fervent wolf]

Baron is trash almost every single time

[vocal rose]

yeah

[obtuse shuttle]

Thanks, I thought it wasn't possible in a Plasma deck, since Ante 39 is Nan, and Plasma decks require more chips for each boss. I thought Nan might appear before Ante 39, I'm not sure if I explained myself well

[vocal rose]

I just heavily disagree with the picks in the middle of the tierlist

[fervent wolf]

Oh?

[vocal rose]

yeah theres alot of picks that dont make sense

[fervent wolf]

Like?

[vocal rose]

heres some ones I've already said

and alot more I can think of when I take a better look

[weak seal]

i feel like there's a lot i've missed out on but what could i do now ::

[fervent wolf]

I was too lazy to make another row

I'll probably do a slower, more thought out and developed list after I finish moving

[visual turtle]

bloodstone 💔

[shell dagger]

The fact that brainstorm cannot score optimally when you have a +mult and xmult is more important

[fervent wolf]

Bloodstone trash

[visual turtle]

Séance hate though 😌

[shell dagger]

Having multiple copy jokers and losing that flexibility doesn’t rlly matter as you’re still in a winning position

[terse vale]

parking next to baron

[fervent wolf]

Parking is Trash imo

[terse vale]

[terse vale]

how so!

[visual turtle]

parking and business card

should be treated the same

[fervent wolf]

Using my hand size for a 1/2 at 1 dollar

Useless

[fervent wolf]

Business is atleast 2 dollar

[terse vale]

money just isn’t useless

[tender quarry]

Lots of early tempo jokers and a good deal of econ jokers seem pretty low

[terse vale]

its pretty good early

[shell dagger]

No, it’s at least 0 dollars

[terse vale]

and fine mid

[tender quarry]

Fist, Half, Golden, Faceless

[fervent wolf]

I mean on trigger

[tender quarry]

Blackboard is obviously very low but that's been commented on

[terse vale]

even having one face card is pretty cool

[shell dagger]

So you mean “at least business is 2 dollars when it hits”

[visual turtle]

Ok wait

[fervent wolf]

Yes, and parking is only 1

[shell dagger]

But you can’t reuse the cards played with business like you can with parking

[terse vale]

is this what you’re going off of 😭

[shell dagger]

Faceless is 5, so faceless is 5x better than parking

[terse vale]

pairs are meta so by that parking gets an automatic boost

[fervent wolf]

Yup

[visual turtle]

I want to argue that both business and reserved should give you 2$

[terse vale]

noo !

[shell dagger]

Too strong

[visual turtle]

but there's like 12 face cards standardly

[shell dagger]

Parking is already strong

[tender quarry]

Bones and Lucha should be at least B, probably A if Chicot is S+ (Which is not a take I'm going to argue)

[bold wave]

i died at ante 8

😭

[visual turtle]

If séance is in worse, superposition should be there too

[terse vale]

parking gives enough money if you have enough face cards in hand
which you probably will, and even then it doesn’t matter too much

[tender quarry]

Superposition is quite a bit better than Seance

[terse vale]

its atleast 5 dollars a round for me usually

[fervent wolf]

I play straights tho

So no

I don't make much from parking

Thus why I ranked it low

[weak seal]

is the requirement for superposition to proc a little less strict compared to seance?

[terse vale]

I thought we were talking generally oops

[shell dagger]

Way less strict

You can fairly reasonably get superposition to hit twice per ante with no deckfixing

[fervent wolf]

I said for my c++ run tho

[shell dagger]

Also boots is too low

It’s not good but it’s not F

[fervent wolf]

No, generally, parking is good

But I mainly do straights and 2 pair runs

[terse vale]

you only said it wus after your c++ run !

[fervent wolf]

Yeah

MY c++

Not anyone else's

[visual turtle]

boots should be higher!!!

[fervent wolf]

0/10 ragebait

[visual turtle]

if you don't
burn your money (like me)

then you can do well

[terse vale]

lowkey true

[hazy smelt]

I disagree with the DNA being below average...being able to duplicate a face card with a seal on it, and if you have blueprint or even 2 blueprints that can be 2 or 3 extra face cards with seals into your hand+deck. This card is at least strong I think.

[visual turtle]

I have yet to see what
wee joker can do

[bold wave]

i dont play balatro

[heady narwhal]

brainstorm should be lower, castle & runner should be higher than squimbo imo

[heady narwhal]

that won't usually happen, is the problem

[fervent wolf]

I think all of them are good chip scalers

[loud rapids]

guys the true best strategy is to use smiley joker

[heady narwhal]

especially not on gold stake ante 8

[hazy smelt]

I had 2 blueprints plus DNA in a recent game : )

[visual turtle]

I'm never getting c++
idk how im doing my balatro tier list 💔

[rugged tendon]

what does baseball card do

[heady narwhal]

sometimes you can get blue seals out of DNA but certificate is way better for that job because it doesn't cost a hand and you don't need to already have a seal

[loud rapids]

1.5x boost that stacks per uncommon joker u got

[tender quarry]

I think people need to start clearly putting the intent of their tier lists when they post them

[heady narwhal]

spending a hand is more expensive than you might think

[visual turtle]

Splash should be
higher I think

[loud rapids]

splash has saved my runs a lot

[rugged tendon]

that’s not that good can’t u only have 5 jokers

[loud rapids]

the humble negative joker:

[fervent wolf]

Certificate also better bc it has synergy with holo without needing to use a hand

[rugged tendon]

what’s that

[visual turtle]

you can
play 5 scoring cards with 2 pair/pair/high card

[tender quarry]

Because this whole thing is everyone pointing out 'x joker is good' and then the guy going 'yes I agree but this tier list isn't ranking which jokers are good in general, just good for one thing I did the way I did it'

[heady narwhal]

you can pretty easily get it to an unconditional 2.25 or 3.375x which is really good

[loud rapids]

it’s a joker of any type

but it doesn’t take up a joker slot

[bold wave]

get 5 fucking negative jokers in a run (using immolate or whatever) I DARE YOU

[fervent wolf]

5? I think you mean 50

[visual turtle]

Even steven in F 💔

[heady narwhal]

besides a lot of uncommons are xmult so you want to collect them towards the end of the game anyways

[weak seal]

black deck:

[loud rapids]

what the fuck is that
that’s too many

[fervent wolf]

Even Steven sucks

[fervent wolf]

It works

[heady narwhal]

it's way better than something like license which has a stricter requirement, or baron which doesn't do anything except increase the expected payout of parking + mime by $0.25 per king

[bold wave]

too little*

[loud rapids]

also we can swear here

peak

[visual turtle]

Wait?
Really!1!1!1!1!
shi||p||

[weak seal]

(also) what are those other cards between the negative hanging chads

[loud rapids]

blarret

balatro

[fervent wolf]

Photos and Brainstorms

[bold wave]

cardlike

[weak seal]

i see

[loud rapids]

I blueprint the +3 for the suit it is (like lustful joker)
not because im stupid (I am)
but because I have nothing better to use it on

[bold wave]

i play cardlike will i get slimed

[visual turtle]

the
roblox balalala thing?

[weak seal]

as long as you don't insist that it was made before balatro/that it is "better than balatro"/that balatro "copied from cardlike", i think you'll be alr

[dusty void]

I love Balatro :>

[visual turtle]

how do people

play face cards

knowing that the plant exists

[junior cave]

Plant made me stay away from Face builds for the longest time

[fervent wolf]

Two words: director's cut

[junior cave]

Other solutions are having glass cards to compensate for the scoring

[fervent wolf]

Omg your bio has I wanna be the guy ref in it

I'm content now

[vivid seal]

It's called gamble maxxing

[fervent wolf]

Knowing that someone besides me knows of it

[vivid seal]

I either win or I dont

[weak seal]

some of yall know IWBTG too?

[fervent wolf]

Yes

[junior cave]

Yup

[visual turtle]

true

[fervent wolf]

Mike Tyson hits hard 🔥

[weak seal]

neato 👍

[junior cave]

Experienced Avoidance player here

[weak seal]

literally 😆

[visual turtle]

bloodstone, 8-ball, reserved parking, business card, Space Joker, with lucky cards 😌

[fervent wolf]

I literally soft locked one of my saves before that boss lol

[visual turtle]

plasma deck
is killing me

it's that or checker deck to get to the orange stake
and that's also driving insane

[weak seal]

i havent played but i have watched a few vids about it and other similar platforms starting with "i wanna"

[fervent wolf]

Exactly

[weak seal]

oh right
balatro

[fervent wolf]

Yeah, the only real game that matters

(Besides the Uncharted games)

[weak seal]

judgement, wheel of fortune, emperor, sigil, ouija, the soul,,,

[visual turtle]

Glass cards 1/4 vs wheel of Fortune's 1/4

[weak seal]

oh yeah and Oops too

unrelated but has anyone actually had their Cavendish go extinct?

[vocal rose]

gs a8 tierlist woohoo

[vocal rose]

yes

[minor portal]

Hit the Road is in the A-, the tierlist can't be wrong.

[rugged tendon]

how do u get more than 5

[minor portal]

I will never accept hit the road slander

[vocal rose]

its very usuable

[serene forge]

baseball card turns utility jokers into scoring

[dusty void]

Fuck you 😭

[fervent wolf]

I sure do, just don't pair me with bl*odstone

[junior cave]

Uncommon jokers are some of the best too such as spare trousers

[dusty void]

I spent so many rerolls and this mf dodging me

I am not reading this but cool

[minor portal]

so you have this copied down somewhere

[frank mirage]

Hello everyone, do you have any tips to pass glod stake in blue deck pls 😭

[fervent wolf]

Ty for writing so many good things about me!

[visual turtle]

can't help 💔

[rich mauve]

baseball card goat

[visual turtle]

what do you even do on
gold stake

[minor portal]

win

[weak seal]

what if square joker was 144x144 instead of 138x138
(12² = 144. squareception)

[fervent wolf]

Yes I am

[rich mauve]

I mean it's just a regular gold stake with +1 hand

have you ever tried or win gold stake?

or is it your first time?

[frank mirage]

i win one gold stake

[visual turtle]

I NEEEEEd erratic deck

[craggy hearth]

Holy copypasta

[red thistle]

Might be the only tierlist i fully agree with.

Grats zoahl.

[fervent wolf]

But it's good things about me.....

[minor portal]

the ancient texts were deleted

[vocal rose]

thank you

[minor portal]

The library of Alexandria has burned again

[serene forge]

grrrrr

[modern panther]

Do I want 3 blue, red or gold seals?

[fervent wolf]

They are hiding the truth about how good I am...

[craggy hearth]

R we serious 💔

[visual turtle]

What you really want is a copy of the 2 of ♦

[craggy hearth]

I think this is for discussion about the game

[serene forge]

where is this

[minor portal]

probably a library

If I had to imagine.

[red thistle]

What's a modding mod.

[visual turtle]

ok but actually I think gold seals

[craggy hearth]

Mod for #⚙・modding-general and its category

[visual turtle]

if you're using bootstraps

[modern panther]

Straps dies next round

[frank mirage]

i got a run lets gooo

[visual turtle]

red i guess

[craggy hearth]

AstralGOAT

[fervent wolf]

Photochad 💔

[visual turtle]

Woah, did I actually give competent advice to someone?

[craggy hearth]

I mean red or blue both work

Red probably has more potential outcome and blue is a scaling thing

[modern panther]

I like the idea of blue bc playing pairs, but red could be better short-term

[visual turtle]

I keep remembering I never touched the painted deck

[rich mauve]

-try to get blue seal cards from card packs and copy it with tarot cards
-then play an easy hand like pair and build levels with blue seals as much as you can

idk

[modern panther]

Now the question is 2 of diamonds or 10 of hearts? I've already passed the head, but I've yet to see the window

[rich mauve]

maybe skip if there is an investment or coupon tag in small blind first ante

[visual turtle]

2
if you're keeping greedy

[modern panther]

Personally I don't think coupon is worth. I only ever take investment, and only first ante

[rich mauve]

idk I don't mind restarting

it's easy to see if it's worth or not for that run

[cloud aspen]

Que

[sacred trench]

Going for Gold on all Jokers and here is my latest win

The astronomer saved the run with money and I got the Constellation out of an early judgement

[frank mirage]

nooooooo

[sacred trench]

Honestly o just carried the duo and Cavendish to the win

[sacred trench]

That sucks

The flint is a nightmare

[latent egret]

le boeuf

[frank mirage]

oui oui baguette

[latent egret]

and why not the chèvre while we’re at it

[latent egret]

its the ox

[sacred trench]

I think the arm is the real killer of runs

[rich mauve]

bro

[latent egret]

i just meant that the boss in the pic is the ox

[rich mauve]

black deck is so

[simple jacinth]

flower pot and gift card mvps

[sacred trench]

Yeah, black deck was my second gold stake win

[simple jacinth]

I could've also taken glass joker but I sold that because I figured these two would be harder to gold stake

turns out early BP+rental BS with ankhed rebate goes kinda nuts

$20 per discard just means you have so much money that you have no excuse not to be winning

[stark karma]

I cannot wait to be done with C++

[simple jacinth]

I don't want to be done with C++

[stark karma]

Skipping blueprints and brainstorms on great runs just because I already have them stickered

[simple jacinth]

and this is my second time through

[simple jacinth]

why?? aren't they key to making sure you win the run?

[limpid gate]

The Duality of Balatro players

[stark karma]

Not really!

[simple jacinth]

my philosophy is to play around a joker I haven't stickered, or play around econ so I can find one and make room with an ecto

[limpid gate]

Tbf Blueprint/brainstorm arent that googd if you dont have good jokers to copy

[simple jacinth]

yeah, I guess so

[stark karma]

A lot of my runs are just minimizing the ammount of jokers I need and slotting in a bunch of fodder

[limpid gate]

granted if you want to win a run you probably have one of the good jokers to copy but I mean its not always the play

[stark karma]

VOILA

[limpid gate]

In any case I just use glitches so I wouldnt know much

[simple jacinth]

wow, so many commons

[stark karma]

Yeah I’m the goat

A lot of my runs have been looking like that but I recently had a crazy, bloodstone, chad, dice run featuring idol

Skipped an eternal brainstorm which was really really sad

I just want to get it over with

Then I can start playing freely

[limpid gate]

I was planning to wait for the update to C++

[stark karma]

That’s pretty fun

[visual turtle]

I'm not ready for c++

[visual turtle]

Level 44?
woah

[latent egret]

blue seal andy

[stark karma]

Idk if it was blue seals it was a lot of spaceman tho

[fervent plover]

guys a bit of help here

[stark karma]

I had a lot of hands and an early perishable brainstorm

[craggy hearth]

Whole buncha jokers chattin out here 😭

[manic zealot]

big hologram makes me happy

[limpid gate]

Tbf I barely talk in game discussions

just saw 2 jokers chatting and thought the more the merry andier

[obtuse shuttle]

I Guess I want to get ante 39, the problem, I need a lot of luck for an perkeo early, and also 5 blueprints quite early, (plus a mime and a baron), quite difficult.. the truth

[limpid gate]

Besides my run isnt looking that good rn 💀

[obtuse shuttle]

where did so much money come from

[limpid gate]

That was cheated in for bug testing

its not exactly a legit run

[obtuse shuttle]

I understand, haha ​​lol

[limpid gate]

shouldve clarrified lol

But besides that this is all vanilla

[fervent plover]

do u think i should take the fibonacci card?

[frank mirage]

nooooooo

[limpid gate]

No, you have 5 plus multi jokers

If anything sell pants/misprint for mail-in rebate and look for photograph and better deck fixing

[fervent plover]

but pants are +26

[limpid gate]

you get +30 from smiley and a face card

40 with the red seal

[visual turtle]

Wheel of fortune

[limpid gate]

Yeah Im in a pack, in the blind select, in a round

its slightly cooked

[limpid gate]

Like I guess if you have a enough scoring to win then just keep the build and sell misprint/pants for fibbo for just a little more score, but like realistically you should have gone for econ/Xmulti/deck fixing atleast an ante before this

if not 2

[obtuse shuttle]

By the way, I had another question, because I couldn't lose the run due to the naneinf bug, is there any way to see what seed I had? I haven't started a new run yet and I wanted to keep it as a memory, since it was random I don't know which one it was

I don't know if my saved game can be read in any way, at the moment I won't make a new run

[fervent plover]

guys

this is it

the final ante of green stake

need to win this

[visual turtle]

cerulean Bell should be ez

[frank mirage]

omggg

[fervent plover]

should i switch three of a kind for anything?

about to attempt the last boss

[distant thunder]

CREDIT CARD IN THE BUFFOON PACK

[tranquil steppe]

Almost had a free dub

[frank mirage]

i forgot

[distant thunder]

aw

[fervent plover]

i dont know what to replace it with though

[rich mauve]

lmao

physically impossible to past scroll that

[fervent plover]

@rich mauve do i take three of a kind or not?

what do u think?

i was thining replacing fibonacci for it would be a good one

[rich mauve]

no

[fervent plover]

but 12+ mult

[rich mauve]

it's bad and probably will give you less mults then you would get with those

[fervent plover]

hmmm... makes sense

[frail holly]

hello!

[rich mauve]

hello!

[frail holly]

im new to balatro, what good joker should i go for to start a good run?

[rich mauve]

any +mult

like banana

[frank mirage]

lets gooooooooo

[rich mauve]

gives you +15 mult

[fervent plover]

win or not?

what do u guys think?

[fervent plover]

depends on sitautions mostly

[rich mauve]

win

[fervent plover]

{{FoX}}

{{FoX}}

[rich mauve]

[fervent plover]

WHYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!

[rich mauve]

[fervent plover]

the last anteee....

NOOOOOO!!!!!!

if i just had the card that considers every card as a face card

it would've been a breeze

{{FoX}}

[dull orbit]

Hi

[fervent plover]

now i cant sleep until i get to complete green

[fervent plover]

hello
{{FoX}}

[dull orbit]

Had an amazing run last nite, finally harnessed the power of canio lol

[last geyser]

Is campfire good?

[cloud sinew]

yeah

[last geyser]

It seems hard to use

[brave goblet]

Interesting bull

[cloud sinew]

campfire works on jokers and consumables

[last geyser]

But it resets

[fervent plover]

depends, really good if u have moni to sacrifice and play when u have a huge blind in the ante ur in

[brave goblet]

literally doesn't matter

[dreamy creek]

i love bloodstone

[brave goblet]

you can just gas up the campfire as you need it

[cloud sinew]

campfire scales very quickly

[last geyser]

Hmm

Okk I’ll try it

[fervent plover]

fuel it up when u wanna get past a high blind ante

[frank mirage]

niceuw*

[cloud sinew]

it's easy to get it to 2-3x

[fervent plover]

make sure u save money for it

it easily gets u out of a pickle

[brave goblet]

or make enough money

[dull orbit]

Its a little thing but I love high priestess tarots or buying consumables just to sell them immediately

Campfire cool

[frank mirage]

i got tree deck in gold stake now

[fervent plover]

money and multi. chef's kiss

[unborn cliff]

green joker soon

[spark kernel]

The trio irl 😭 🙏

[unborn cliff]

now this is a start

here win

[bold wave]

wsg guys

cardlike discord chat was 30 minutes dead so im here

[last geyser]

I just accidentally bought an eternal rental seance…

[unborn cliff]

epic run

[bold wave]

bro overshot it by 3x

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone