🕹・game-discussion

[cloud sinew]

"I did clarify that stencil doesn't count against itself if there's an additional one."?
it also doesnt count against itself if there isnt an additional one

[earnest owl]

idk much about flush do i replace anything for the squiggly face guy

[cloud sinew]

you want to swap droll + supernova first, but im not sure if i would take smeared over them

it makes the uncommon pool better i suppose so sure

[earnest owl]

droll?

[shell dagger]

crafty

[earnest owl]

i

[shell dagger]

flush page 1

[earnest owl]

o

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[earnest owl]

guys is lvl 13 max level for hands i cant use the fool even tho my last planet/tarot was flush

[potent tree]

are you out of consumable space?

there is no maximum bound for planet levels

[earnest owl]

yes but it was in a like pack that makes me use it

[potent tree]

yeah then you need to expend a consumable from your consumable spaces

[earnest owl]

alr

[potent tree]

i've gotten pair to level 86 before

[earnest owl]

jesus wtf

[potent tree]

though i imagine there's people who have gone even higher

but wait

if you use that consumable you won't be able to get jupiter

unless one of those consumables is also jupiter.

[earnest owl]

why tf does it scale so much from ante 10 to 11

small blind is 7x from the last boss blind

[lost vault]

because its endless

[potent tree]

ante 38 is like e288 at the small blind, ante 39 is e309 which is above naneinf

oh it's skink the not-wannabe nanlet

[lost vault]

.^.

wanna be?

id say im better than the average nanlet

[earnest owl]

thanks u got me the farthest ive gotten before

[dark cairn]

[vocal rose]

because endless mode isn’t balanced

so don’t worry about it

getting FAR isn’t the goal

the goal is beating ante 8

[earnest owl]

true

[vocal rose]

and

tbh it isn’t even that fun

[ancient gyro]

oh

[humble gulch]

If only 💔

[dark cairn]

baron+mime or idol/trib+sock

its only ever just that

[vocal rose]

yep

[hidden lintel]

What a shop

[dark cairn]

Is it weird that black deck wasnt my most miserable experience gold staking a deck?

don't get me wrong i definitely did not have fun with it at first and i definitely struggled to get the actual gold stake win but

it didnt outright melt my brain like zodiac deck or anaglyph deck did
(i'm not saying they're bad decks but i had an awful time with them)

[wintry ice]

roguelikes are high variance games

[meager quarry]

if you think about it gold stake isnt that bad

[humble gulch]

Uh

[dark cairn]

when all the good jokers are rentals its kind of a problem

🥲

[meager quarry]

yeah but its pure rng

[brave goblet]

Who needs an xmult jonker

[meager quarry]

when you dont have a life(like me) jst keep playing games until rng gods bless you

[dark cairn]

the thing with black deck is

since you have +1 joker slot

[wintry ice]

well this is a banger of a start

[dark cairn]

i can just take a burglar and then i have 6 hands per round

thats how i beat gold stake finally with it

burglar + rtb

[meager quarry]

i prefer green deck

[dark cairn]

(green joker would've been more preferable but i had to make do with what i had)

[meager quarry]

and the checkered for insane flushes

[wintry ice]

the obvious issue is getting burglar

[dark cairn]

of course, especially since black deck has worse econ by default

[wintry ice]

it's downside makes it have a terrible earlygame which snowballs into a still bad lategame

anyways what the fuck

[meager quarry]

do yall know good balatro mods

-# im new to modding

[wintry ice]

extra credit is cool

[serene forge]

here win

[wintry ice]

but that's the only one i tried

and that just rounds it off

i assume i just sell halu for it

and i already have a blue seal to copy

i might wait until i don't need agate though

[stiff ore]

amazing first joker lol

thatll be solid for at least a couple antes

[wintry ice]

?????

genuinely what do i give up for this

red card?

might aswell

[amber forge]

Do you need constellation? You already have hologram

[wintry ice]

having more xmult jokers just secures the advantage

[wary crypt]

Beat purple stake on erratic deck

[wintry ice]

i'm slowly gonna transition to pairs because flushes are volatile with cert

[wary crypt]

Good luck :D

[amber forge]

Probably the clubs one (I don’t remember the name), unless you need it still to survive

[wintry ice]

i probably do

which is why i sold red card instead

[silk vale]

Once im done with the 20 challenges, what is the "end game" of balatro? Is there a leaderboard or ranking?

[wary crypt]

Idk

[silk vale]

Maybe doing all of the tiers of decks?

[ancient gyro]

silly shenanigans like c++ with only black deck or win streaking

[silk vale]

Ahh what is c++? I've seen that before

[ancient gyro]

all jokers won in gold stake

[silk vale]

Sorry could you explain further? Im a little new

[stiff ore]

i find it hilarious that if youre in debt, you can take wraith and itll give you money to set you at 0

[ancient gyro]

all jokers won at the end of ante 8 win screen on the hardest difficulty

[amber forge]

The endgame is all achievements, does mobile have achievements? I see your android

[silk vale]

Ahh I see! Yes there are stats, I will work on that. Thank you!

[wintry ice]

am i gonna be able to maintain this with certificate

[civic warren]

what are the chances of drawing this first hand lol

[civic warren]

surely

[ancient gyro]

probably as a secondary option

[amber forge]

That 7 lol

[civic warren]

LOL i know

[amber forge]

So close

[civic warren]

so sad

[rich yoke]

still learning this game but I think this is good (I forgot what this clip was but I think it was a high score)

[plain root]

Ended round 24 with $263

[plain root]

My math is not mathing lmao

[cloud sinew]

youre running like ~350 chips with heavy +mult and xmult

which is not ideal for plasma

you want to stack all on one generally

[rich yoke]

its funny though

[cloud sinew]

because it balances, and you have xmult

[rich yoke]

wait so like

putting all your eggs in one basket is optimal?

[serene forge]

balatrodle in 7 this game is fucking ass

[rich yoke]

like if i only went for +mult or xmult would I get a better score than going for a balance?

[ancient gyro]

it only cares about raw numbers

[hybrid tendon]

balatrodle in 5

[dark cairn]

after finally getting C+ i can put out the final version of my tierlist for how i fared with each deck's stake grind

[safe fractal]

i finally beat jokerless

[wintry ice]

very good late supernova

[humble gulch]

Nine stickers at once

[dark cairn]

Please don't ask how anaglyph and zodiac went worse than black deck for me 😐

[dark cairn]

negative tags?

[lost vault]

pulled up an unseeded run on mobile and got this abomination 😭 probably my best mobile run

[humble gulch]

Zero tags

[lost vault]

deck is pretty mid

needs more gold

[dark cairn]

howd you get that many negatives

[humble gulch]

Luck

🐑

[lost vault]

bro forgot jokers can spawn negative

[dark cairn]

3 nat negatives in 8 antes is kinda crazy

they're 0.3% chance smartass

[lost vault]

i know

[safe fractal]

i have finished gold stake on gold, green, abandoned & checkered. im currently on orange stake for erratic which will be my 5th gold stake.

[wintry ice]

do i sell something for this for cleanup duty

[dark cairn]

the tier list i posted is not how i feel about their overall power or consistency
its just the experience i personally had with them

[serene forge]

I hate Negative Tag

[wintry ice]

like idk if the card removal does more than my rocket rn

[dark cairn]

i may do a tier list for how i feel about their overall consistency too

[serene forge]

how the fuck is zodiac below black

[dark cairn]

Oops! All Suit-Changers

I got VERY unlucky with zodiac and anaglyph

[humble gulch]

Placing zodiac there has to be illegal in some country

[dark cairn]

what part of "this is the personal experience i had with them" do you not understand

[lost vault]

okay but anaglyph is just bad zodiac is really good

[dark cairn]

i do not think zodiac deck is objectively or even subjectively worse than black deck

[lost vault]

oki then

[dark cairn]

i just personally had a horrible time with it

[lost vault]

meow meow meow

.^.

[serene forge]

I hate Blowman

[lost vault]

i hate Chudstone

[humble gulch]

Holy sense

[terse vale]

did I miss an update

[dark cairn]

Devil's Deck

[terse vale]

is there a crack joker now

[dark cairn]

actually itd be funny if there was a joker that did something if you play 3 6's in one hand
but given that there's a joker already based around playing 6's it'd prob be redundant

maybe a joker for playing 3 7's then

i dunno

[heady monolith]

Finally beat a blue stake

[dark cairn]

welcome to pair central

[wintry ice]

wheel made my cosmic explosion gay

[heady monolith]

Deck before I lost ante 11

Also this is the first run ive ever skipped a buyable brainstorm

[humble gulch]

We're jacking it

[ancient gyro]

sample size too small 🦐

[wintry ice]

bro how is a lvl 2 two pair winning early

[vocal rose]

no it isn’t

[wintry ice]

oh wait

[vocal rose]

anaglyph is neutral

[wintry ice]

lucky hit

[heady monolith]

Gros Michel

[lost vault]

fair

[wintry ice]

well that was likely my largest hologram ever

don't look at the cash

[lunar zealot]

6777777777

6777777777777777

6777777777777

677777777777777777777

[potent tree]

bad kami.

[lunar zealot]

Someone had to make the joke

and that someone is me

[dark cairn]

after getting c+ i decided to make a tier list of how interesting/enjoyable i find each deck to be
sorry if you like zodiac deck or yellow deck I guess

I don't like yellow deck or blue deck because they just feel like straight up easy mode, there's nothing really unique or interesting about starting with an extra $10 or extra hand per round

youre still playing the exact same as you normally would except now its just easier

[lunar zealot]

yellow deck enables more cheese overall i'd say

[dark cairn]

zodiac deck i may be biased against because of the horrible experience i had playing it on high stakes

[lunar zealot]

blue is undoubtedly boring

but yellow's econ boost lets you make dumb choices

[dark cairn]

but i don't usually find myself taking tarot merchant often

and i basically NEVER take planet merchant unless im running constellation

[plain root]

I feel checkered is easy mode lol

[dark cairn]

i just think being able to spam flushes like pairs is really wacky

[serene forge]

I hate Planet Merchant

I hate Planet Tycoon

[dark cairn]

i like flushes

i wish they were more viable

[plain root]

Totally! And being able to pivot into flush houses helps

[dark cairn]

i never even thought of that LOL

[plain root]

I love four of a kinds

[plain root]

It's how i got gold stake in 2 days with that deck lol

[primal epoch]

just had the funniest run of my balatro career.
I had found baron and buskin in the same shop, and then said "ok, now where's my photochad?"
You'll never guess what I found 1 reroll later.

[dark cairn]

i dont really get what you mean by that

[plain root]

Actually checkered deck is weenie hut jrs

[dark cairn]

i just see yellow deck as "normal deck with easy interest"

[plain root]

A lot more moves you can make in first shop too

[dark cairn]

well yeah

but then its just a blank deck with a boosted start

[fervent wolf]

Matador down

[dark cairn]

well yeah thats exactly what yellow deck is

its a blank deck but youre given an extra $10 at the start

[wintry ice]

yellow deck probably has the easiest earlygame by far

[serene forge]

baron thinks its on the team

[wintry ice]

and said earlygame snowballs into frequent free wins

[dark cairn]

so after ante 1 its basically just a standard deck

[primal epoch]

he was there, so why not lmao

[dark cairn]

i definitely agree

i just think that its kinda boring past ante 1

at least its better than blue deck which is boring on all antes

[primal epoch]

that run got like ante 14 which is pretty good for me

[plain root]

I was just working on getting the gold stake completed on these decks. I barely touch yellow deck in general

[serene forge]

I hate Green Deck

[plain root]

Green deck can be tricky for sure

[wintry ice]

well here's my favorites

[tranquil steppe]

Congrats! I wanted to try to get him earlier but he was perishable

[plain root]

Erratic is prob my favorite

[vocal rose]

so fun fact

if the joker is disabled via perishable

it can STILL be stickered

[tranquil steppe]

Oh yea

Sorry I should’ve added he was perishable AND I had him ante 1

[vocal rose]

ante 1 matador can be very good

[tranquil steppe]

So he was basically useless right away and had to go

[plain root]

Anyone got any tips for gold stake ghost deck? This one has been giving me trouble

[vocal rose]

I hold onto him for like 2-3 antes

[tranquil steppe]

It was good to start and the free $21 in Econ helped get the dub

[vocal rose]

and if nothing pops up he’s gone

[fervent wolf]

This literally the easiest one 💔

[vocal rose]

gold stake is still hard

don’t do that

[plain root]

I KNOW haha it's been still giving me trouble lol

[fervent wolf]

Not really, only black deck

[plain root]

I cant get past green stake on black deck

[wintry ice]

people overestimate ghost deck

it's highs are very high but yellow and blue are consistently overpowered

[vocal rose]

maybe to you

gold stake is VERY hard to the majority of the playerbase

[wintry ice]

it turns out that giving more of the most important resources in the game is very useful

[vocal rose]

then again I wanna ask

what’s your win streak?

on gold stake

[tranquil steppe]

I would hex something early on so that you get that poly joker, and build off of that nice base

[plain root]

2 lol. Been playing for almost a year and working on improving

[granite sandal]

i am now officially 3/4 of the way done with beating every deck on every stake, and have beaten blue stake or higher on every deck except erratic, which i'm saving for last

we are cookin

[plain root]

Would something like hexing rebate be viable?

[buoyant bison]

can I ask why you’re saving erratic

[vocal rose]

not you

the other person

[tranquil steppe]

I don’t see why not

[stiff ore]

well this should be fun~

[vocal rose]

extremely viable

[wintry ice]

hexing the best econ joker of the game is a massive head start

[granite sandal]

because i find it fun to hold the r key until i get a funny looking deck with like 7 kings or whatever

[wintry ice]

it's basically impossible to lose from that starting position

[dark cairn]

funny how its like the exact opposite of mine

[buoyant bison]

masochist

[granite sandal]

another plasma hater 🤝

[wintry ice]

plasma just feels weird to play for me

[granite sandal]

i don't like playing on plasma unless i can find stuntman or whatever

[tranquil steppe]

I have some differences too. Anaglyph is def one of my faves

[plain root]

Im always unsure when to hex or what to hex just to give me the best start. If i dont see anything worth whilr by ante 2, i usually restart

[plain root]

I love that deck but seem to have trouble on higher stakes

[wintry ice]

generally everything is worth hexing

[plain root]

This is the way

[dark cairn]

i like how green and plasma change the game
black deck being hard mode is interesting and the tradeoff of +1 joker slot allows for different strategies/expanding on your current ones

checkered and erratic also change things up quite a bit

[granite sandal]

if you find an ante 1 rare skip tag, you can guarantee that what you hex is something good (unless you get something silly like hit the road or whatever lol)

[potent tree]

if hex is going to hit one of the stencils should i sell the other two jokers?

[wintry ice]

rare tags are too much of a gamble to sacrifice an early shop for

[dark cairn]

yeah i can understand that its def not for everyone

[wintry ice]

the common and uncommon rarities already have a lot of good stuff

[dark cairn]

i think its really cool once you get used to it though

[wintry ice]

and like

[tranquil steppe]

I find myself using my skips whenever I feel I need them - usually on tarots, sometimes planets, maybe econ if I need some

[wintry ice]

most rares don't help you early on

[dark cairn]

i absolutely love characters/classes in roguelikes that massively change the meta

[granite sandal]

i know you're not supposed to take the negative skips but i think it's kinda funny

[plain root]

Totally! Especially negative tags

[tranquil steppe]

Or it’s a perishable rare

[wintry ice]

a lot of commons are literally designed to help you early on

[granite sandal]

although i only try to do it when i'm already oneshotting

[plain root]

If i can afford it lol

[potent tree]

actually i can just skip the hex...i'll talisman and cryptid on the lucky queen and pray for trib i guess

[tranquil steppe]

Negative skip is super super fun

[dark cairn]

C++ without negative tag challenge
Someone do it

[buoyant bison]

pray for trib is a crazy shout

[wintry ice]

taking something like eternal sly joker early on and hexing it makes you able to make use of it later into the run

[serene forge]

i dont think i've taken any

theyre not good

[safe fractal]

it can hit cavendish or the trio 50/50 if it hits sketch or not (2/4 =50/50)

[plain root]

What would be the worst joker to hex lol

[granite sandal]

i'm only halfway done on joker stickers but i already have gold sticker ice cream lmao

[potent tree]

i savescummed, it's hitting a stencil

[compact gazelle]

showman

[wintry ice]

i don't think i ever got to do the anaglyph negative thing in my 2 c++ runs

[buoyant bison]

I only take negative tag to get extra gold stickers when I’m already very strong

[wintry ice]

a rental that does nothing

[dark cairn]

i meant for the stickers

[wintry ice]

or showman that's a good answer too

[compact gazelle]

i got one decent set of negatives that gained 2-3 stickers when i was most of the way done already

[serene forge]

theyre not good

[plain root]

Showman i can see being pretty weak

[wintry ice]

it's generally detrimental outside of endless

and basically required for endless

[serene forge]

anaglyph negatives are not really a good strat lol

[wintry ice]

it's a very polarising joker

[buoyant bison]

a food item with one round/hand left

[dark cairn]

i dont mean banking on them to try and win
i mean taking one when you already know youre going to win so you can get some free gold stickers

[granite sandal]

the humble perishable rental ice cream:

[compact gazelle]

it’s not reliable enough to beat out just repeating runs on ghost deck

[safe fractal]

im at 64% with 155 hours

[dark cairn]

even on anaglyph deck i didn't take negative tags unless it was just to screw around

[wintry ice]

that's a more efficient strategy if you have a bunch of random commons left to sticker

[vocal rose]

that’s decent for stickering

[dark cairn]

i used my double tags on orbital tags, economy tags, and the occasional juggle/booster pack tags

[wintry ice]

otherwise it's better to go on ghost because ecto atleast lets you have a choice on what to make into a negative

[granite sandal]

let me guess, magic trick is one of the seven undiscovered items in your collection?

*illusion

i forget what the lvl 2 is called

[wintry ice]

illusion was my last item for collection

[compact gazelle]

illusions correct

[granite sandal]

my last two were illusion and palette

[dark cairn]

mine was triboulet

[plain root]

I just had this run

[wintry ice]

i did both c+ and c++ before completionist because of that

[compact gazelle]

illusion is miserable

[potent tree]

my last item for collection is tarot tycoon but i'm gonna complete c+ first

[granite sandal]

it took me forever to reach palette's unlock condition

[wintry ice]

i couldn't be assed to do an endless run

[serene forge]

i can read

[junior cave]

Meanwhile Glow Up and Petroglyph are likely my last things to discover. Got everything unlocked at least

[serene forge]

yellow/ghost deck are far superior for sticker farming

[compact gazelle]

no you can’t you’re a balatro player

[granite sandal]

i had to spam white stake runs on anaglyph deck with voucher skip tags just so i could find palette and illusion easier

[tranquil steppe]

Mine was also illusion

[serene forge]

true

[junior cave]

Yeah I figured that's how you round up the last vouchers. Noting this for later

[safe fractal]

yeah, i dont take magic trick much. i'll grind for the last few things i need to unlock soon. i just got every joker (2 are hidden cause i need to get them in a run)

the last 7 are vouchers

mostly level 2 stuff for the vouchers i dont take often

[tranquil steppe]

Magic trick is mostly only good for hologram

[junior cave]

I got the 2 aforementioned vouchers, Paint Palette and Satellite left to find

[granite sandal]

mfw i take magic trick and my shop is a 7 of diamonds and a perishable rental 8 ball

[wintry ice]

magic trick is pretty much hologram exclusive

getting value of random basic cards isn't easy

[compact gazelle]

i take magic trick and the games like “hey do you wanna see something cool” and produces a four of hearts

[granite sandal]

the last jonkler i discovered was glass joker, only because i rarely use justice

[pale wolf]

mfw brainstorm skip

[fervent wolf]

Idc abt no winstreak

[pale wolf]

because im testing something lol

[granite sandal]

and when i do it's usually only for chad runs or deck fixing

[junior cave]

Satellite was the last for me as $400+ was not doable for me until I just did an Anaglyph run

And that joker is lackluster

[granite sandal]

although the first time i hit e was with a canio run with glass kings!

[potent tree]

NO

[wintry ice]

justice is good even if it serves as a budget hanged man

[potent tree]

taking invis was a mistake...

[wintry ice]

it's supposed to be an emergency source of scoring and it pairs pretty well with blue seals

[potent tree]

FUCK

[wintry ice]

which are the most overcentralising thing in the game

[serene forge]

I hate Magic Trick

[compact gazelle]

^^

[potent tree]

man...should i really take another break from the game?

[fervent wolf]

Yeah this was an easy win

[safe fractal]

as you can see im fond of Flush and Egg

[fervent wolf]

Canio was peak

[vocal rose]

okay well it’s a pretty good show of skill expression

so I was just curious

[stiff ore]

do i keep my faces or not? lol

[fervent wolf]

Let's be honest

The game is 70% luck as well

[safe fractal]

its really not. just play white stake checkered deck over and over again

[granite sandal]

average photochad enjoyer

[delicate lion]

Well… I wasn’t expecting this

[vocal rose]

erm

that’s not being honest at all

lmao

[fervent wolf]

Like if you go up against the mouth on a straight build with PERFECT econ, and don't draw a straight, what do you do?

[granite sandal]

there is a bit of luck to it, but any run is winnable if your strategy is solid enough

[vocal rose]

if you think it’s luck in the sense of just a % chance of losing then no

[safe fractal]

"yeah im pretty good, i have a winstreak of 200" he says having played the exact same deck on white stake on repeat

[vocal rose]

but in the years of playing this game no one has found an unwinnable seed

there are hard seeds for sure

but you don’t lose to “luck”

[fervent wolf]

Mouth, don't draw a good hand, then what

[safe fractal]

you can absolutely lose to luck lmao. thats the entire point of poker too bro 💀

[vocal rose]

I wouldn’t put myself in that situation

[vocal rose]

no you cannot in balatro

[serene forge]

maybe if you play fraudstone

[fervent wolf]

Yes, you can

[vocal rose]

you lose to your own mistakes

nobody is a robot of course

[fervent wolf]

So you can see the future and know that the mouth is perfectly on ante 7? I think not

[compact gazelle]

what about seeds where the generally correct decision loses you the game
out of curiosity

[safe fractal]

im not pretending you cant get by with skill but some times you just dont draw what you need or hit what you must (like with bloodstone) to pretend the game is 100% skill is just blatently dishonest

[compact gazelle]

do any of those exist besides that one in the uni video

[granite sandal]

well of course not, but luck is moreso just a factor rather than the core of what makes the game run

[vocal rose]

then it wasn’t the “generally correct” decision

[pale wolf]

there hasnt been any like, "best algorithm" created but i think there's 100% no way that there's one algorithm that could beat any seed

[serene forge]

it's like 95% skill based

[compact gazelle]

…see the future to know that the right choice is the one that’s usually bad?

[lunar zealot]

it's a roguelike

[serene forge]

obviously there's a little luck involved but being good at the game offsets it

[lunar zealot]

there is obviously luck involved

[pale wolf]

there is going to be SOME seed that perfectly counteracts what decisionmaking process is used

[lunar zealot]

Because it's a fucking roguelike

[safe fractal]

"i wouldnt put myself in that position" yeah, i can not lose a hand of poker at vegas if i simply dont show up, doesnt mean there is no luck

[serene forge]

also if youre using bloodstone you didnt die to luck you died because you're an idiot for using that

[wintry ice]

you spend money to lower the chance that the mouth screws over your draws

[potent tree]

guess i'm an idiot then.

[pale wolf]

but yea people go on win streaks dozens of runs long this game is largely skill based

[fervent wolf]

And what if nothing shows up? Hmm? Nothing at all to avoid it

[wintry ice]

having allegedly "perfect" economy and dying to a boss is mutually exclusive

[fervent wolf]

Thats ALWAYS a possibility

[safe fractal]

trying to get a joker sticker or challenge run etc, many reasons to be using even the worst of jokers

[safe fractal]

so you admit there is a chance it can

therefore meaning luck is in the game

[vocal rose]

playing optimally going for win streaks does not correlate to those two at all

[vocal rose]

can you not read

[pale wolf]

randomness is the game and skill is overcoming it

[safe fractal]

the game is based on poker ffs, there is literally no argument to say there is no luck in this game

[compact gazelle]

balatro is a bit luck based but much more skill goes into wins than luck

[vocal rose]

we were LITERALLY saying that

[safe fractal]

has to be the dumbest conversation one earth

[rose hemlock]

can i ask for advice on a run?

[pale wolf]

yes

[wintry ice]

if you have this so-called perfect economy, you should have been able to find the deck thinning required to draw a straight in 2 discards

[fervent wolf]

Nah, I've seen dumber

[serene forge]

joker stickers are just asking you, "can you win with 4 jokers"

[potent tree]

yep i lost. lmao

[vocal rose]

I think people confuse luck with how a roguelike functions fundamentally with a % chance to straight up lose the game

[rose hemlock]

do i sell Flash Card and take Photograph? Flash Card is at +46, Lucky Cat is at X5

[serene forge]

dont take photograph

[fervent wolf]

Blew all my money and what do you know, having one hand screwed me, a LUCK based factor that the Needle showed up

I couldn't predict it 4 Antes ago

[last geyser]

How unfortunate 🙃

[shell rock]

yes this game does involve luck

what's your point here?

[safe fractal]

that is the point. no other argument

just some guy who thinks having a 200 win streak makes you better arguing there is no such thing as luck in the game

[last geyser]

Lucky cards ?

[compact gazelle]

it’s ante 8 so no needle risk
if the hand you’re playing has any decent base mult photo outscores flash card easily
as much as i hate to say it, yes probably take photograph
dna can go as well if the +46 matters

[wintry ice]

what are the two jokers on the right

[serene forge]

skill issue you used swashbuckler

[rose hemlock]

yeah, honestly, i think i'm fine either way

[fervent wolf]

This happened a few days ago, I don't remember 💔

[safe fractal]

swashbuckler overhated

[pale wolf]

#🕹・game-discussion message @heady narwhal do you have a slower version of this or can i slow it down and use it for wiki purposes

[last geyser]

Consumables?

[rose hemlock]

what about dropping DNA?

[serene forge]

mf you use photochad sit down

[compact gazelle]

i wasn’t really paying attention to the argument earlier but if you think balatro is more luck dependent than skill dependent you are a clown along with the likes of jimbo himself

[wintry ice]

ante 3 has director's cut according to immolate

with trading card at the start of ante 2

[rich yoke]

balatro is luck based because the game won't give me good jokers and forces me to play two pair

[heady narwhal]

i don't think i have the files for this anymore but you could probably edit the gif using something like https://ezgif.com/

[pale wolf]

yea i can edit it myself

[compact gazelle]

no, swashbuckler actually appropriately hated for being not a good joker
i love holding two dead slots for +3 mult a round and temperance value

[wintry ice]

unless i mistyped the seed, this loss was very clearly due to poor decision making

[vast delta]

oh, great, thanks

[pale wolf]

just thought if i didnt have to i wouldnt

ty

[safe fractal]

everyone uses photochad at some point, im grinding for stake stickers. i fail to see the point you make. you can add up my 3rd to 6th most used jokers and it still isnt as much as egg + swashbuckler

[shell rock]

oh hey that happened to me one time

[rich yoke]

i mean if you got egg or gift card it makes it infinitely better

[safe fractal]

idc if its good, i enjoy using it

[shell rock]

except it was the last shop before the last blind in anaglyph orange stake

[serene forge]

bro is using swash egg every game and is complaining that it's too luck based ☠️

[safe fractal]

present + swashbuckler is better but im an egg elitest

[wintry ice]

it's worse than green joker on average with egg and matches it with gift card

[last geyser]

I hate the plant 🫠

[rich yoke]

i like using the cards the game gives me

[compact gazelle]

swash egg is trash lmao

[rich yoke]

but I think it's funny

[wintry ice]

it's serviceable

but not as good as people act like it is

[compact gazelle]

and swash gift card is actually just gift card being gift card

[rich yoke]

does it really matter when we are all having fun

[safe fractal]

im not complaining its too luck based at all. never complained once. some idiot just said there was absolutely no luck and i was saying, there was some. never said it was bad or i disliked it

[serene forge]

gift card makes swashbuckler usable

just like how vagabond makes credit card usable

[compact gazelle]

oh hell yeah
ive used swashbuckler at times and it worked out fine

[potent tree]

no credit card in buffoon pack...

[compact gazelle]

and the run was fun to play

[potent tree]

today's been shit for me

[rich yoke]

I mean I won my first run with swashbuckler

[serene forge]

i won my first gold stake with jimbo

your point

[safe fractal]

serial killer patience

[last geyser]

I love it when glass doesn’t break 🙃

[rich yoke]

I haven't even touched gold stake

[wintry ice]

i won my first white stake run with some conglomerate i don't remember and 5oak

[rich yoke]

and I probably won't I'm bad at this game

[wintry ice]

oh wait it had pre-nerf vampire

that's how i won

[rich yoke]

I think I won with bootstraps mainly and just never spent money

[safe fractal]

cant remember how i won my first game, i think it was probably egg + swashbuckler 🤣

[potent tree]

NEXT SHOP had credit card...

[wintry ice]

it's like

a beginner's first synergy

[rich yoke]

dude you sound like you'd marry this build icl

[compact gazelle]

starter pack of balatro build centerpieces

[safe fractal]

i think its fun

let me enjoy the game, damn bro

😂

[rose hemlock]

letting people enjoy things is not how the internet works

[rich yoke]

what did I say

did I say anything wrong

[compact gazelle]

nobody’s saying you can’t play swash egg

[rich yoke]

did I not let you enjoy your swash egg which I have admitted to also liking

[wintry ice]

the swash fans have sparked a civil war

[compact gazelle]

no this guys just a lil strange is all

[safe fractal]

i was joking, i hoped the laughing emoji would have shown that

[rich yoke]

jokes are funny

[compact gazelle]

laughing emoji usually means mocking

[safe fractal]

think you need to surround urself with nicer people

[potent tree]

should i have invis copy obelisk

[wintry ice]

is this about plasma

[wintry ice]

not sure how obelisk works there

[potent tree]

i had from 2 rare skips

[wintry ice]

if this was any other deck i'd say yes

[compact gazelle]

im surrounded by very nice people
i havent gotten a dm or friend req from a random creepy adult man in like 3 years

[wintry ice]

but i don't play plasma enough

[last geyser]

+3 more gold stickers!!

[safe fractal]

nice, good for you. i dont tend to get dm'd by weird people because i have my account set to not let anyone im not friends with dm me

[compact gazelle]

I was young and stupid back then 😔
and didn’t know how settings worked
and joined the public server for a game I played whose player base consisted primarily of grown men

and I didn’t even say one thing there how did hundreds of them find me

[fervent wolf]

Okay, fair. But say directors cut doesn't show up and I'm going into the big blind before vv and I had Cavendish as my source of Xmult. It BREAKS before vv and I reroll and what do you know? Not a single thing in sight to help me! MUST be skill. I should've predicted for Cavendish to break and should've spawned an Xmult joker out of nowhere, right?

[safe fractal]

they have bomb sniffer dogs except for women on discord

[last geyser]

55/150

[compact gazelle]

“girl detected alert the horde”

[wintry ice]

you should name a scenario that actually happens

[fervent wolf]

It's a possibility of it happening

Meaning luck

[compact gazelle]

no you should have had excess scoring

[safe fractal]

https://giphy.com/gifs/KiwiGoKGO-hold-hodl-kgo-p4pWzctMrCBfLFgycF

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[wintry ice]

which can be easily minimised

[fervent wolf]

It literally says 1/100, a luck based factor

[rich yoke]

my cavendish has never broken as I had it for one run and immediately lost

[last geyser]

Imagine you could choose randomise option like random deck and stake

That would be cool

[safe fractal]

imagining them to just be 1 big hive mind is actually hilarious

[safe fractal]

bloodstone + oops all 6's

i like that combo too

[wintry ice]

being good at this game involves minimising the effect of luck

[compact gazelle]

yea
like a secret server of thousands of creeps who find girls out of the server member list and tell everyone else their usernames

[serene forge]

lame asf

[safe fractal]

bit harder to get than my goat egg + swashbuckler which is why it doesnt really show up on my stats

[vocal rose]

I’m comfortable saying this game is skill based if someone’s argument is a 1/1000 occurring

[wintry ice]

bloodstone is a joker i never take unless i have oops and my flush levels aren't terrible

[rich yoke]

my favourite build is blueprint brainstorm

don't need any other jokers

[wintry ice]

this is a situation that basically never happens to me

[vocal rose]

and that is their argument that this game has to mess up runs

[wintry ice]

outside of like

checkered or whatever

[safe fractal]

got to get one of those incognito sites that scrub your cookies/info off data broker lists except its getting your discord name off the circlejerk list on the discord mods united server

[pale wolf]

the game is less luck based the better you are

[lament bronze]

People will bring up some of the most absurd hypotheticals that not even bad players get to

Much less someone who's entire view of how to play is to avoid being put in stupid ass situations like that

[safe fractal]

is it called incogny? incogni? it sounds familiar from youtube ads

[vocal rose]

yeah this is what I mean lmfao

I think if you have to put yourself in a vacuum that is UNWINNABLE

[lament bronze]

ANOTHER PAIRS RUN TO THE ARCHIVE 🔥

[vocal rose]

then yes you WILL lose

[rich yoke]

okay but have you considered this extremely hypothetical scenario that will never happen that proves the game is luck based (I can't get photochad to work)

[vocal rose]

but that isn’t an argument grounded in reality lmfao

[lament bronze]

Most of these hypotheticals are more so less than ideal compared to unwinnable

Mostly because you can come out of most ideas easily

[vocal rose]

Like

[lament bronze]

They just bank on some arbitrary rules for the difficulty

Like the one there isn't even that hard, it just assumes you just won't get anything else

Which is infinitesimally more likely than getting and profiting from that play described above

Stupid ass hypothetical

Never cook again

[compact gazelle]

“i put myself in a spot where i can do nothing to avoid losing on this final hand. now to prove the game is skill you need to win from here”

[wintry ice]

they provided a screenshot of them dying to needle on ante 5 on a seed where director's is available in ante 3

[pale wolf]

breh

[wintry ice]

it also has an ante 2 trading card

[lament bronze]

• Also small addendum, any way that could have easily kept me out of this situation and get me out I will say you just can't because you can't Olay

[wintry ice]

so it's reasonable to assume that they had the money to get it by then

[pale wolf]

this game is skill based but there are luck based losses, very rarely

[compact gazelle]

luck shows up more often in massive not-even-close wins where you pull an insane build than it does in losses

[pale wolf]

you can make reasonable, solid decisions

[lunar zealot]

Hai chat i've returned

[pale wolf]

hi kami

[lament bronze]

Luck is more a limiting factor

Hi Kami

For a lot of runs and other things

But it's not even that bad

[lunar zealot]

I forgot to say my catchphrase but that's fine

[pale wolf]

its like in sports if the wind blows the ball somewhere at an important moment it changes the game

[lunar zealot]

chat what do we think of The Family

[rich yoke]

I accidentally used a perkeo to make like 30 hanged man tarots and used them all and was left with 1 card and it was a 2 of clubs and i lost this game is clearly luck

[pale wolf]

its still a skill based competition but theres wind in balatro

[compact gazelle]

why won’t it show up on my 5oak runs :(

[serene forge]

this game is the most unfun and rng based load of crap ever, i'm literally scoring hundreds of thousands of points per round and this fucking game just kills my joker out of the blue because fuck me i guess, this stupid ass game is literally so luck based, its not fun, its unfair, shit ass stupid game

[compact gazelle]

I always end up using trio instead

[fervent wolf]

@vocal rose
So I should've used my skill and recoded the buffoon pack to have cc, right?

[wintry ice]

the biggest effect that luck has is in the earlygame

[rich yoke]

have you considered baron mime

[pale wolf]

ok ok ok i got it
balatro is like golf

[serene forge]

no because eternal smeared joker is fucking horrible

[lament bronze]

Asking a lil much but it's honestly not that bad, great xmult for a tiny bit worse than the alternative hands

[fervent wolf]

It's literally a nat negative what

[compact gazelle]

no you should have just gone ahead and won without a negative smeared joker wtf

[safe fractal]

i enjoy the trio a bit more mostly because three of a kind is way easier to get early game and by the time i get to mid-late game ive invested in 3 of a kind and dont wanna change to 4.

so its good, i just personally like the trio more

[wintry ice]

well, why would you want to have a negative smeared this early to begin with?

[serene forge]

it's literally bad because it's eternal

[lunar zealot]

I like family

[fervent wolf]

How

[wintry ice]

the expected value you get from it is the same as splash

[lunar zealot]

sure 4oak is a tall order but good economy usually is able to facilitate it

[serene forge]

"yes please i want to be vulnerable to 2x as many suit based boss blinds" - statements by the utterly deranged

[rich yoke]

you can't sell it

[wintry ice]

it's not worth 12$

[lunar zealot]

and then you basically have a wincon on par with campfire

Because it's fucking x4 mult

[pale wolf]

it turns your deck into a horrible version of checkerec

[wintry ice]

ghost deck makes ankhs more common

[pale wolf]

1 less joker slot and 2x boss blind vulnerability yea

[wintry ice]

having an useless eternal negative makes ankhs more risky

[lunar zealot]

gun to my head and full interest i still wouldn't take smeared here dude

[lament bronze]

High price in low rounds means you lose out on interest building early

Fucking useless

Makes you prone to boss blinds shenanigans, something you clearly struggle with even with econ, deck fixing, and incredibly early boss rerolls

[fervent wolf]

Bbc synergy

[serene forge]

like i could start with 1000 dollars and i still wouldn't pick that up

[lunar zealot]

True...

[wintry ice]

this just proves that the game is mainly about decisionmaking

[cursive skiff]

brosquito for the life of me i have never figured out what splash is please explain 😭 🙏

[pale wolf]

eternal negative smeared with bbc sure

[serene forge]

where's the bbc

[pale wolf]

splash makes non-scored played cards score

[wintry ice]

so say you play a high card with 4 lower cards

[pale wolf]

like 3 extra cards in a pair

[lunar zealot]

Nono let him cook

[wintry ice]

normally only the highest card will score

[safe fractal]

have you tried using the other cards in your deck or simply getting directors cut/retcon?

[lunar zealot]

(i am biased)

[wintry ice]

but with that all cards will score

[lament bronze]

Splash is unconditional triggers, but unless you have plenty of enhancements, it's around just +20~ chips and up in pairs and high card

[serene forge]

so true bestie

[lament bronze]

Same person struggling with needle and VV while having rerolls btw

[rich yoke]

I got a foil splash, paredolia and smiley face once and I lost and I think about that often

[lunar zealot]

simmer down simmer down

[lament bronze]

"Let me make myself even more vulnerable for making one of the easiest hands in the game even easier!"

[serene forge]

those are

kind of mid

don't sweat it

[rich yoke]

yeah but like I rarely get actual synergy

[lunar zealot]

you think that's bad

[lament bronze]

Foil pulling more weight than splash but it's not even that bad

[rich yoke]

I think about that often

[lunar zealot]

i lost when i had 3 copies of ancient joker

[pale wolf]

pareidolia splash midas tho

peak

[fervent wolf]

Now THIS was my fault for having bad econ, I can agree

[lunar zealot]

my ass got burnt out of balatro because of that lmao

[fervent wolf]

DL in there as well

[lunar zealot]

if i lost that run today id be like damn lmao gg go next

[serene forge]

this is probably my most disappointing moment

[pale wolf]

meh

at that point vampire if you're gonna have an xmult

obv

[rich yoke]

I also lost a run recently with a DNA, blueprint and photochad which also made me sad

[lament bronze]

• Eternal throwback and complaining about constellation being the reason for bad econ while having vagabond on the back

[serene forge]

skill issue why did you take an eternal throwback

[fervent wolf]

should've spawned a merry Andy or drunkard

[wintry ice]

attempting to make throwback work in high stakes is already a bad sign

[lunar zealot]

ok don't say bbc value

this one i do not permit you to say bbc value on

[lament bronze]

Dont talk to me, don't pregnant man react me, we're done

[fervent wolf]

Skill issue it got me the win anyways

[lament bronze]

/j

[serene forge]

i don't give a fuck

[stiff ore]

this has been such a weird run lol

[lunar zealot]

Too bad

[serene forge]

throwback sucks

[lunar zealot]

Why do the worst jokers have to be uncommon man

[lament bronze]

Throwback fan acting as if a low roll won't set him back to ante 2 on a new round (they skipped ante 1 already)

[fervent wolf]

Mhm

[lunar zealot]

now i HAVE to like them because they proc bbc

[stiff ore]

i sold four fingers

[lunar zealot]

Except seance

[fervent wolf]

What about bloodstone

[lunar zealot]

I have used seance a whopping once in my 2 years of playing this game

[lament bronze]

Seance is used for nanlet shit so he gets to go to super hell

[lunar zealot]

and it was to get a single cryptid

[stiff ore]

and this is what i get as my reward?

[fervent wolf]

Just use sixth sense it's better

[lunar zealot]

I sold it immediately afterwards

[wintry ice]

looks inside
baseball card and 3 of the best xmult jokers in the game
blueprint brainstorm, hologram and acrobat

[lament bronze]

Doesn't even work well with strush builds anyways most cards fuck with your deck too much

[serene forge]

you if giving non anecdotal examples was a class

[fervent wolf]

And guess what? LUCK made that happen

[lunar zealot]

yall cut him some slack

[wintry ice]

the scores also tells me that it effectively did nothing

[lost vault]

guys throwback is op, just look at these incredibly strong runs that couldve easily been won without throwback

[lunar zealot]

i still think he's wrong but we're going about this the wrong way

It is true that luck is a part of balatro as is fundamental to a roguelike

[lament bronze]

Chicken says optics game

Ah okay sorry

[lunar zealot]

but bad luck can and always is mitigated by skill

[lament bronze]

Thought you were going to just

"Aww don't be mean to the person being objectively wrong and standing by it in an obnoxious way 🥺

[lunar zealot]

He's a friend but that don't mean he's not wrong

[fervent wolf]

Like this is lucky right here

[safe fractal]

kami can you show your most used jokers? wanna see where Baseball Card ranks

[lament bronze]

Even endless players have to hate showman dude he doesn't pull his own weight

[wintry ice]

early trio is pretty nice

[lunar zealot]

I believe bbc sadly isn't in my top 10

[lost vault]

sell hex for trio trust

[potent tree]

man...do i give up on purple stake plasma for today

[wintry ice]

could she be fraudulent

[fervent wolf]

Trio is free tho

[naive cove]

I swear to Jesus Henry Christ that the shop on gold stake is rigged to screw you over. 5 antes and zero +chip jokers, not even rental perishable eternal ones. Fornicate me. Toby Fox screwed the pooch with gold stake

[lost vault]

i thought it said 8

[fervent wolf]

Skill issue

[lost vault]

whya re you rare skipping grrr grrrrr rgrrr

[lost vault]

henry?

[safe fractal]

the undertale dev?

[fervent wolf]

To make yall mad 🤣✌️

[lost vault]

ok

[lunar zealot]

Behold my top 10

[lost vault]

have fun lOSING loser

[lament bronze]

Round 5 ante 3 with one jonkler an 10 bucks to his name bro missed everything for nothing

[wintry ice]

gold stake ahh lineup

[naive cove]

Yes Mr. Balatro himself

[fervent wolf]

Still won

[lost vault]

true

[fervent wolf]

Absolute skill

[lunar zealot]

nova above hologram is killing me im ngl

[heady narwhal]

photograph

[lunar zealot]

Oh shut up

[wintry ice]

it's a common +mult scaler that can be taken in the middle of a run

[lunar zealot]

I take photochad when i see it is that so bad

[safe fractal]

careful, photo and chad are in your top 10, people will shame you

[lament bronze]

Nooooticing the 0 hands and barely above 20k of difference to scoring requirement with 4 xmults

[wintry ice]

it's statistically going to be picked more often due to it's rarity

[fervent wolf]

Still won

[safe fractal]

i would say called it but i sent my message too late

[fervent wolf]

What's the problem

[potent tree]

creepy andy

[fervent wolf]

"My bad I didn't score 500 mil in 1 hand"

[lament bronze]

Do you think he blinks like a frog

[lost vault]

thats kinda crazy with 4 xmults tbh qwq

[lunar zealot]

Also chat im talking while getting a haircut rn

LMAOOOOO

[lament bronze]

Acting like you weren't that close to losing

With 4 xmults too and polychrome on top of them

[lost vault]

ONE 3oak wiff and its over

[potent tree]

that's bad manners kami

[lament bronze]

That's just not a flex bro

[lunar zealot]

I have c++ and am one of the best players in this chat at any given moment

[lost vault]

grats on winnig

like you said

[lunar zealot]

My bad decisions are my own stupidity

[lament bronze]

Try to explain to your stylist about all of this

[lost vault]

it was luky

[lunar zealot]

not indicative of balatro as a whole

[safe fractal]

i was not doubting you

[lunar zealot]

Hell no

[lunar zealot]

I doubt myself

you should too

im a fraud my best winstreak is 5

[safe fractal]

mine is 2

i dont care about winstreak

[lament bronze]

Sub 3 bad joker trying to "But every joker has a niche"copemaxx (Badstone)

Vs

True useless waste of Thunk's dev timecel not even needing to be getting defended (Marble)

[safe fractal]

i dont think its a real indication of skill. someone can just play white stake of a deck that is easy on repeat and get it to 100 or whatever

[lament bronze]

Win streak flexing already assumes gold stake

Just y'know they don't have to say the whole thing

[safe fractal]

and yet i guarantee you at least a third of the flexers did not do it on gold stake

too trusting of people

[lament bronze]

Yeah but they're ass and lying anyways

[lunar zealot]

Yo my barber is cooking

hooooly

[wintry ice]

my highest gold stake win streak is 4

[lament bronze]

At least within community you can have scrutiny and structure once you get to actually sensible people

[lunar zealot]

I HAVE A HIGHER STREAK THAN YOU????

[safe fractal]

actual skill is like balatro uni guy who won using only chip buffs and chip jokers, 0 mult upgrade

[wintry ice]

i don't really bother going for them

[lunar zealot]

IM ASS AT THIS GAME 😭

[wintry ice]

my gameplay is incredibly inconsistent

[fervent wolf]

Its still a win

[wintry ice]

so i just

play random decks

[lunar zealot]

Lowkirkenuinely 400 hours in this game and i still hold r if i cant beat the small blind in 1 hand

who's with me

[lament bronze]

Same

[wintry ice]

sometimes i try black deck to see if i can figure it out only to switch back to zodiac because i find that more fun

[lament bronze]

Simply not fun

[safe fractal]

real

[fervent wolf]

Me too

[wintry ice]

i'm content with 2 hands

[lament bronze]

Anyways I just constantly play on ghost deck because i actually like to have all my game features thanks

[wintry ice]

3 hands is dicey tho

[lunar zealot]

I play yellow for the econ

[lament bronze]

Do think that spectrals not being on the shop already is a flaw but I guess it means we get spectral deck as a whole and everyone else is weaker than it

[lunar zealot]

Call me ebeneezer cuz im scroogin

[wintry ice]

yellow deck is extremely free

[lament bronze]

WHO UP LIMITING THEIR TRASHY GIMMICK CONSUMABLES LIKE A REAL DEVMAXXER?

[lunar zealot]

OW MY EAR

[safe fractal]

honestly if i dont get either good seals of first hand win small blind i just reset. my win streak would probably be at well over 5-10 if i didnt but i dont care about winstreak. winning jokerless or with just chips is more impressive

[pale wolf]

blue deck my fav

safety net for days that also acts like a slinghsot

[safe fractal]

has localthunk said anything about new challenge runs in the update? i know hes confirmed some balance changes and new jokers but i think thats it

[lament bronze]

Gives you the potion that turns you into a buge

[pale wolf]

i dont think anybody asked about challenge runs but he said he's open to many things

i would be very surprised if we didnt get more challenge decks

[lunar zealot]

I NEED AN ALL PERISHABLE CHALLENGE

PLEASE

PLEASE

PLEASE

PLEASE GOD I NEED IT

[lament bronze]

Also if he doesn't make pseudo tutorials with challenge decks he might genuinely explode

[pale wolf]

my bets are on a custom challenge mode

[wintry ice]

sorry, easier jokerless

[pale wolf]

because thats the obvious make

but its hard

[lunar zealot]

I love the pseudo tutorial challenges

you can tell he enjoyed making them a lot

[pale wolf]

i think it would make sense if you didnt unlock challenges like at the doorstep of gold stake

[lament bronze]

Jokerless is mad easy because no joker spawns at all so it will be jokerless but like, swamped a bit

[safe fractal]

i would like it if the challenge runs had higher stakes for them too. even if it is just like a black and a gold stake rather than 8 whole stakes for each

[pale wolf]

once you beat it it should let you play gold stake

no in between

[lunar zealot]

They should make jokerless 2 that just sets your slots to 0/0 lowkirkenuinely

[pale wolf]

white stake or gold stake challenges

[lament bronze]

"Hey have you completed every challenge in every single stake" SHUT UP

[pale wolf]

-2/0 so that antimatter or negatives dont work

[lunar zealot]

i want to keep saying lowkirkenuinely

[lament bronze]

I can already feel the drums of completionists trying to say you have to do it all

[pale wolf]

just 2 stakes

like i made v clear

😭

[lament bronze]

I'm making an extension in the case it goes the opposite way

[pale wolf]

it would be hell

[safe fractal]

isnt antimatter banned in the current jokerless challenge

[lament bronze]

Because 20 total decks with the challenge shit is even greater than c+

[pale wolf]

i guess but kami just said 0/0

[blazing grove]

whatup guys

[lunar zealot]

OW MY EAR

[safe fractal]

major league balatro season 3 was announced a couple days ago if anyone else likes that

[pale wolf]

if it isnt in the next update i anticipate someone making a custom challenge creator and code sharing mod 😅

[pale wolf]

hello gross michael

[pale wolf]

is someone eating you

[pale wolf]

the urge to beg for nitro

ok thats enough balatroing for today

[blazing grove]

i just choked on a crossiant

[heavy heron]

AYYY IM GLAD TO HEAR

you did good!

[naive cove]

My top used jokers after gold staking every deck

[lunar zealot]

ill do it

Chattttt can someone buy me nitrooooo

[terse vale]

hmmm

[pale wolf]

NO

[terse vale]

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

[pale wolf]

YOU CANT STEAL THIS FROM

[lament bronze]

Chaaat let me shameless plug too

[lunar zealot]

im just a girl :3

[pale wolf]

🔫

[modest siren]

Nope

It's not even worth tbh

[wintry ice]

chat can someone sell me nitro

[pale wolf]

nitro more like not troo

[lament bronze]

Chat there's this p2w server that would shower me in rewards if I had booster who wants to she'll out 5 whole bucks for it

[modest siren]

That's what Discord does

[lunar zealot]

wtf is a p2w discord server

[frank grove]

how do you win in a discord server 😭

[lament bronze]

Booster perks for dnd and roleplay 🔥

[naive cove]

Wtf is a discord server?

[pale wolf]

discord but with rpg elements added

[fervent wolf]

Wtf is Discord?

[lament bronze]

Tabletop but it's digital

[shell rock]

what the hell does wtf mean

[modest siren]

Chaos, as the name implies

[fervent wolf]

Olay, for an average gold stake run, what yalls favorite xmult joker? Mines hologram (especially bc I play a lot of Ghost Deck)

[fervent wolf]

Or bbc

One of those two

[lunar zealot]

Beisbol

[frank grove]

i like constilation a lot (i play a lot of zodiac)

[lunar zealot]

i love bbc

I loooooooove bbc

[fervent wolf]

Me tooo

[naive cove]

Ramen if I got green joker and don’t need to discard

[fervent wolf]

I take bbc whenever I can

[modest siren]

🤨

[naive cove]

Constellation is great

[fervent wolf]

Even if I have to make room for it

[naive cove]

Hologram is great

[pale wolf]

favorite xmult is probably...idk im feelin vampire a lot of the time

[frank grove]

vampire is nice

[naive cove]

I wish vampire didn’t suck

[pale wolf]

but then how would his flavor work

[frank grove]

it kinda rewards bad arcana packs

[pale wolf]

he needs to remove enhancements

[naive cove]

You either get Midas or you’re not gonna have a happy vampire

[modest siren]

Most xmult cards are good. Except bloodstone and hit the road probably

[pale wolf]

or do you actually mean suck as in not a pun

because you're wrong, vamp is good

[naive cove]

Only if you got Midas

[pale wolf]

no

lol

[frank grove]

no??

[fervent wolf]

The tribe, idol, baron all suck

Also photo

[pale wolf]

literally any tarot gen and you can support vamp very tidily

[unkempt plank]

I have never used that green one next to banana can't even remember his name lol

discards ftw

[pale wolf]

like 2 purple seals

[fervent wolf]

I love Grimbo

[pale wolf]

which 1 purple seal tends to turn into

[frank grove]

or just lots of econ, or just goatiac deck

[naive cove]

He’s literally called green joker lol

[modest siren]

Idol also sucks. Tribe is.. I mean it's something. Baron.. yeah no, unless I have tarot joker or something

[naive cove]

Obelisk is shit

[frank grove]

???

[modest siren]

Nah, photo is good and I'm not listening to this slander

[pale wolf]

ok ur bait

[fervent wolf]

Wow, you must be new

Or baiting

[unkempt plank]

I've gotten use from idol occasionally

[potent tree]

man FUCK this game...

i can barely put together a full house after taking hiero

[unkempt plank]

I've never seen the draw of obelisk either

[fervent wolf]

Well, Idol DOES have bbc value so I can't hate it personally

[pale wolf]

obelisk is like a free win like 80% of the time

[naive cove]

Obelisk sucks and I don’t care

[pale wolf]

unless you're already winning

[frank grove]

idol can be kinda okay if you take it as like just weird photo with chad occasionally but even then its still worse than kinda anything else in most gs runs

[unkempt plank]

It's not fun for me to play around

[pale wolf]

its just playing one hand for a while and then... not playing it anymore

[modest siren]

As long as you get it with enough time for it to build up decently

[frank grove]

if i see obelisk im taking it and just winning and going next run honestly

its just one of those jokers

[unkempt plank]

Yeah it has no use for me in going endless

it's got a very limited lifespan

[pale wolf]

lol

thats 80% of jokers

endless isnt balanced at all

[modest siren]

Endless has a very different meta

[frank grove]

yeah like only like maybe 15 jokers are good in endless lmao

[glad osprey]

personally i like to pair obelisk with spair trousers/runner until ante 4

[pale wolf]

spare trousers is nutso for obelisk

like cracked

[frank grove]

yeahhh

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[modest siren]

Runner is absolute cinema

[glad osprey]

obelisk is one of my favorite jokers to play with personally

[pale wolf]

@serene forge whats the opposite of bloodstone

[naive cove]

Bloodstone is a good meme but I wouldn’t take it if I actually wanted to win the run

[frank grove]

yeah its one of those "yay no more pairslop!!"

[modest siren]

You should just set a bot to post this periodically at this point

[pale wolf]

she is bot /s

[potent tree]

CLUTCH

[modest siren]

Me when my brain has a storm

[frank grove]

#saved!!

[potent tree]

praise be to the vagabond

constellation 5.2

[fervent wolf]

Foiled Jimbo had to go

[potent tree]

430 million?! damn

[modest siren]

The power of plasma

[shell rock]

yuri

[modest siren]

tarded

[shell rock]

there are 2 polychrome queens right there

[fervent wolf]

W pfp btw

[frank grove]

what happens when the yuri gets retriggered?

[fervent wolf]

Hollow Knight is peak