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am on the last ante
I can maybe switch loyalty for popcorn
it would help me more I think
it wonāt
popcorn will diminish to +12 mult by then
and thatās +2 more than loyalty card without the x4
more than the loyalty base 10 no ?
what else does loyalty card do
10x base and +4x every 6 hands
take matador and die rich
does it stack
it multiplies your mult
every 6th hand played
with 5 hands it will trigger every other round*
but also that could help alot
alright am skipping popcor then
Do i need the order... Do i neeed it
popcorn is good for early ante, by later game. its only usage is simply gold accomplishment
gotta say, rental popcorn sucks hards, cause it still dies off
its a decent snack
Why would you buy a rental popcorn
straight build?
for completionist obv
Ooh
to live the cinema popcorn experience
would make it easier to carry
like rental banana
rental banana is not too bad, since the rental effect would disable the effect of it offing itself
you mean perishable?
yeah rental bananas live forever
right perishable
holy balls 90k in one hand
should have named it loan joker
Not bad i fear this run is gonna be stupid and not good
smh
ok this sounds insane but i would pick tdl here
blueprint would be decent if you got any starting joker with mult right away
i would probably pick the other one (depend on their hands first)
nah bp is the better investment just hex it
ante 1 hexed joker ez 2 flushes to clear
is this the wost debuff
itās also only Green stake
all cards debuffed untill one joker sold
no
nah
thats the most free boss
its not too problematic
ah wait no acorn is
crimson heart and violet vessel are much harder in most runs
the worst boss is still violet
I dont know what to sell
u dont have to sell anythin btw
or crimson if the game hates you
your build is more than enough so why even sell
wdym
you lose fib mult if you donāt sell
simply because its the boss that basically requires 3 investment, your joker, your cards, and planets
and chips from the played cards
I got alot of foils
thatās it
funny but not taking it
hmm ye sell loyalty
yeah you mistimed loyalty for the boss
why not sell satellite
rip
why would I sell my satellite giving me 8 dollars
per round
you know i could work crimson, like yeah it disable your 1 joker which could be detrimental. but if you bait with hands its fine for the most part
because brainstorm can guarantee you beat viollet vessel with constollation copied
Last run was shite
And now its this
it just fucked up my play
and you already get money from gold joker
fibonacci cant proc if the card is debuffed
if I took brainstorm its at max 2x
then sell loyalty
lost like 20k bruh
loyalty is useless anyways
its rng it can be a nothingburger boss it if itargets your econ or it can rotate on your scoring jokers
if it was BLUEPRINT i'd take it
yeah but you are at ante 5
right now yes but it doesnāt have to be later
money scales const faster than a second copy of something that saps your money
if my econ was copyable
and I could boost constellation
yeah maybe
but this is post round econ
but brainstorm is ALSO rental on top of the constellation
a 2x * 2x constillation that is not scaled a lot is stronger than a constillation that is scaled
but you do you both options are fine
and what do you use to scale it?
they have 38 dollars
cmon bruh
for now
I lost bc yall misinformed me
what
to scale constillation to be 4x its gonna cost like what? 40 dollars or more
you're 2 hours into the game don't blame it on us
or pay 3$ per round to have constillation be already 4x
only if golden joker wasnt eternal
I was told debuf only makes it so I dont get the chips of the cards
and lose the opportunity cost between shops for a boss blind you might not even see
turns out it makes it so I cnt use the scoring multipliers
I think you're also forgetting that brainstorm isn't optimal for copying x mult
its one rental tho š
it would be two
two*
what hand are you playing?
6 dollars per round for brainstorm that doesn't give me any value in the slightest isn't worth it
3 dollars for constellation that I can upkeep with satelite and golden joker is worth
if the base level of the hand is scaled decently
im hand agnostic
the screenshot was a tiny litmus test
i saw the bbc > bs placement that's cool
yes
tiny nanlet test
makes sense since multiple xmult scales exponentially
and brainstorm in a way conflicts with that under the circumstances that you have unconditional flat mult
rebate cavendish yorick in top 3 tier list valid
chicot not high enough
this is the main problem with brainstorm
and why I cant justify it being top 10 at all
zoahl moved rick up two spots
I forgot that bb and cav can be perishable
yeah
anything can be rental
nope
except legendary jokers fine
and thats why yorick is above those two
not legendaries, riff raff, top ups, wraiths, and judgments
what will yorick do when you find it ante 8
and riff raff spawns
-# (edited)
thats why hes the goat
still enough time to scale it to 2x by boss blind
but counter question
is 2 retriggers and 3 ancients or 3 retriggers and 2 ancients better
what would I do with a soul card in ante 8 in the first place
find chicot
if we're putting yorick in an unoptimal position then we can do the same for those two
its only fair
8 vs 9. on your final hand copy dusk
bb and cav can help one shotting in early blinds and make more money. that if you dont have to scale a lot
x mult is not what you need in early game
on any other hand copy AJ
no like if i get a retriggering joker do i sell the ancient joker for it
its not but it doesnt hurt
x mult early game isn't necessary at all but ALSO you typically DONT want to be one shotting early blinds
if your flat mult joker doesnt scale with hands played, finishing blinds faster is good
not that its a problem since you can just move x mults to the left
GNG...
yeah that oo
if you get chad sell dusk
it hurts when im in the case of scaling
just move it to the left
depending on source of scaling
the same case can also be made for yorick
or sources
dusk can even be replaced by sock or seltzer
which will scale by 1.3x mult per ante
GOT PLANTED (windowed)
IF you had the choice you are picking yorick in the early game before cav and blackboard
theres a clear better path
one is scaling the other isnt. a better question would be constillation or hologram vs yorick
and the answer is yorick since it doesnt cost as much to scale and doesnt depend on what you find in shop
only exceptions are blackboard and cav are better a1 manacle/hook repellents on black deck or zero support
no that works because the initial argument was why yorick>cav and blackboard
the list we're going off of compares all 150 jokers
i was looking at the top 4
oh yorick is def better than both. if i want to disagree with yroick placement i would only place campfire above it
because of the way I value and rank jokers you can compare
no
and no
yorick clears the competition with scaling x mult
campfire I can see above canio
100% not yorick
campfire vs canio im in a bit of a pickle to say who's better
I fucking hate yorick
those two are interchangeable imo
ok vayn
single least interactive legendary in the game
Oh god if i start playing checkered kill me
chicot arguably provides freedom in a way none of the other legends can provide
safe to start now šŖ
the simple fact you can't die to vv or heart or wall or needle or suit debuffers anymore
thats just a fancy way of saying it does something completely different than the others
just opens you up to white stake strats
which it DOES
chicot my favorite legendary
BUT YORICK IS BORING ZOAHL
provides a lot without carrying the entire run
chicot is EVEN MORE BORING
and canio is boring too
I DO
LOOLLLL
woah
ONLY ON PAPER
hold on there
perkeo is fun
he is
lets simmer it down
yorick and chicot
canio on abanonded deck is fun
NOW WERE TAKKING
kami do you think chicot is boring
what about on cardboard
i already wrote something about this but i forgor
Only on paper
trib ain't boring or fun it just sucks š£ļøš£ļø
chicot let's you play certain lobotomy builds for longer
canio is fun
mmmmmmm
because it's not yorick
because it is
All xmult jokers are just hologram
Interesting
but is hologram fun though
is double pair the goat
better glass card i'd say
but also the rare run with both canio and glass joker is also wild
bloodstone is on scored inconsistent hologram
see like obelisk is fun because you gotta work around it
Yellow deck be like:
baron ?
Ooh wait till you see magic deck highrolls
in hand inconsistent hologram
baron is stm but worse
what is basedball card compared to hologram
Uncommon Jokers each give x1.5 Mult
the best xmult joker in da world
bbc is hex but better
Do I take matador or ice cream here?
Am i right gang
show context
one uses consumables and a money sink every ante. the other uses 3-5 specific consumables and has permanent benefits
tags and high variance are two interesting catches but they both require money which is a conflicting parallel in strength
whatās the boss?
what is your boss blind
what's the bos blind
even though matadaor should work on every boss..
what's a boss Blind?
we shouldnāt have to check..
I disagree
TAKE MATADOR
Okkk
$32
matador and chicot synergy ā¤ļø
even 32 lol
rebate could do that every round
erm ackshually
$32 in one round is a lil pushing it donāt ya think
no
not really
interesting
That's that's seven cards
so you have 7 copies of one rank and youāre just discarding them (and not playing towards them)
i supposeā¦.
I suppose Matador works with copy Jokers too though so that's not valid
$64ā¤ļø
lord
kami means God
God doesn't believe in her
at what ante is it worth to take hieroglyph for hand scaling jokers
bro
5
wait what are you referring to
its a little bit of a hot take
zebra has the weird chart or whatever
i can half understand it
You can only make like four tarot cards per round with vagabond, and they're random, so I suppose getting a guaranteed consumable from pero is worth four times as much?
perkeo*
perkeo is above VAGA in my thing too
I just think the non randomness, econ generation, and also psuedo burnt joker puts it above vagabond
Not to mention you don't have any economy restrictions with perk
Will vampire take polychrome of the card ?
I can see it
but it isnt by miles
nope
no
vagabond and perkeo have problems the other need to have jumpstart their value gen
That is an edition, not an enhancement
Oh ok
it takes enhancements not editions
if you look at your collection it's explained
not like the game differentiates between the two very obviously
or that editions have very frequent gameplay dynamics
I'm home soon
isnāt it weird how holographic applies first before the joker and polychrome always applies last after the joker
it makes sense
but you donāt think about it
ight
and that it's different for playing cards
i guess playing cards makes sense because itās on card scoring which always applies first
or itās at least slightly more intuitive
slightly
I don't get it
huh
what if drawn wild cards drew 4 more cards in your deck like uno draw 4
red card back uh oh
what should i ank here guys
did someone say kami
The chariot
its me john dragon ball
kami means god
true
so i have a question
if i ecto (-3 hand) and find a copy joker in time, will my score be better

no
what about dna though
dies from a24
it didn't used to work like that
if i 5x dna it'll probably be pretty good
I changed it so it applies in the optimal order because people got mad
i could've sworn this wasn't always optimal for like holo glass or poly mult
holy localthunk himself?
I might be wrong but I thought per-card trigger I made it so poly applies at the end and holo/foil apply at the start
wait itās localthunk
hello
hi I love your game
thank u
Balatro
huge if true
i need to double check for glass and empress mult
I think those happen in the middle
ill keep that in mind
I may be wrong
the man himself
Aww man I spilled my coffee all over myself
Anyway I don't remember if I sent this goldstake win
yo
come on man
hi
you're supposed to be a game developer
have this mf alive for like 9 rounds
holo and glass defo does happen in the wrong order
ill prob need longer anyways
as in glass then holo
yeah I was gonna say
tried to find evidence in this chat
didn't know what text to search for
also im a rat not weasel
ok hamster
I was about to say what if holo and poly then i realised how stupid i am
all editions for playing cards happen all other effects for playing cards per trigger yes
valid for bbc /s
we so back
thunk what about brainstorm copying midas for vamp:)
for playing cards I think it's as simple as making foil/holo apply at the very beginning, then making poly apply at the very end
erm midas is passive
i fuck with this
but its in the same phase as vamp
yea i was just thinking about glass holo and empress poly
who would let brainstorm copy midas???
technically it doesn't matter when the foil is applied
WHATS UP SCAPPY
Isn't that already what it does for holo and foil?
Midas vamp
only for jokers
you cant do midas vamp midas vamp can you ?
negative bean carry
You can do Midas vamp Midas
which is why I wish it was brainstormable
oh
yeah it could make sense then
wait, doesnāt poly apply first still on card scoring?
and in that case I feel like you could just have multiple vampires able to scale as long as the card is enhanced at the time vampire sees it
like if i have photograph + a polychrome jack, its 1.5x then 2x right?
its at the end for all editions on cards
is midas ankh-able (or invis jonkler able)?
This better have goofy music
every Joker is
good thing the game comes with it!
yeah thatās jokers, its after card effects
no i mean on card scoring
Strange. I never thought about how the order of triggers happening on just base cards
jokers i know the order
it very rarely makes any difference
like a holo glass with photo would be x 2 +10 x2
i meant like
gng should i sell photo for throwback or pray for chad
so you're saying there is a chance
card effects then jokers
..is that true?
so if you had, say, a holo face card with photograph, it would apply the X2 before the +10 mult
wow really
no I don't think so? Maybe?
Unplayable
let me see
idk about that
try it
I would have thought X2 X2 +10
let me check
then 2x
jokers are always after card stuff
AHA!
so its +10 X2?
true 1.1 beta tester here
it's X2 +10 X2
wait what
yes
Soul card at ante 8 and 9
all +effects taking place before all xeffects seems difficult to switch to
i love being right !!!!!
gng will anyone answer my question
for the Joker effects part of it
if you have photograph apply on a face card glass card with holo
yeah
does holo trigger before glass?
nope
its unfair i had a glass holo run yesterday
even though it should š š
sad
this game is bugged!!
Glass holo photo
game breaking bug
That is very strange indeed.
i think it should do it all simultaneously and take the average of all the final answers
š¦
Fortune tellerrrrrrrrrrr
do you have some crazy balatro software that lets you pull up any scenario on the spot
well i guess thatās just mods
balatro
sandbox
no I look at the source code
you wont believe this
lmfao
It's the guy
lol that's not a joke

do you have a way to make custom scenarios for yourself to test certain effects
i guess thatās easier
or do you just rely on play testing
yeah I have a debug mode
he relies on sheer intuition
Local thunk i am hopelessly addicted to this game
heās just like that
we can see that
negative perkeo pfp with your tag on it
š
not even im that hooked
I am the perkeo from baltro
thocallunk
lo-cal thunk dropped 30 pounds, the goat
hocalthunk?
buh?
I'm just sad I didn't get to finish my coffee before spilling it all over my lap
those marathons be paying off
Are there going to be more legendary jokers in the future
like in the game?
yeah
Yeah
yeh
oui
I dunno maybe maybe not
5 is a cool number
š³ š³
oh I figured they meant historically significant comedy figures for the rest of history 
youre NOT him
5 is a cool number
maybe maybe not!!!
oh
thatās your answer!
I don't think it needs more
I tossed my coffee cup into petroleum I was so mad
based and not inflationnist pilled
5 is a good number ig..
What will wild card rework dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
The thing is that if you add another legendary then the collection screen would either have to be expanded to be six wide, which you then have to fill out with other Jokers probably, or you have to split up the legendaries between multiple rows
I don't really know what other legendary effects you could make that wouldn't outshine the others
diluting the meaning of each legendary
Have you played inscryption
or add 5 MORE legendaries :3
so you dont have that problem
or this yeah 
why are you replying to that message dawg
this irks me
does that mean card scoring from cards will always apply first before card scoring from jokers even in a glass polychrome fib interaction?
I dunno i think 9999 x multiple per played card seems fair
hey loocalthink will there ever be a special joker for the number 7 iām curious
i see
we alr have seeing double
7 is still neglected thus far..
still want 7s to not be useless outside of buffs/straights/odd todd
it works like that for photo ig
7 is a bad number
RIGHT
no more odd todd 7s
That just has a vestigial unlock condition for sevens, it's not a seven Joker
how is there no 777 joker
odd todd my goat icl
I have a journal with a ton of joker ideas in it and I don't know which ones will end up being cut/not implemented
777 win win!!!
What if I am not wearing my glasses I'm legally blind without them.
no cluešš
Are any of the scrapped decks from the betas gonna be reimplemented
777
the old version of it does X2 mult for each 7 of clubs
we NEED slot machine brah
...they were scrapped
that sounds way too niche no?
Darn
its crazy cash gen
Gambling is bad
but it limits you to a hand
is
777 ding ding ding winner
not necessarily a great one
I don't suppose new decks are a possibility
i get the idea sure
Nuh uh
I'd consider new decks
guys itās balatro we all love gambling
I mean ācontaining three of a kindā
really I am considering anything
would work
Will there be new soul cards
pog???
what will happen to the steam achievements?
new challenges ?
the answer was maybe
Alr
i hope so
make challenges gold stake PLEASE
I've implemented a bunch of new stuff but I don't know what will make it in to 1.1 because I will cut a bunch of it probably
Will you make custom challenges
or at least the option to?
But Balatro is the opposite of gambling you build to improve your odds
REWORK BLUE STAKE???
I've been playing since September I dont know much of what happened
make sure you donāt cut the blue stake rework!
id consider removing nebulas downside lol
yo gng what deck should i play rn
thats guaranteed to happen
not xchips though 
i do love me discards
do some anaglyph
jokerless golf stake is impossible for 99.999% of players
black deck
oke
um
Is there gonna be an update that makes me not suck at the game
do they know š£ļø
Don't let Balatro discord balance the game localthunk
besides doc and @ancient gyro
or maybe make nebula actually have guaranteed planet packs
black deck gold stake time
I won't lmao
is there gonna be an update that makes me not suck at the game? :3
nebula legit is just pointless if no planet packs spawn
oh hi mr thunk
wuh
Most people are quite silly and confusing
Local thunk should just add cryptid mod to the base game seems fair
kk I gotta go
throwback death

bye thunk
just saying gold stake jokerless is almost impossible
I'm getting breakfast with my family
bye
Bye have a good day
enjoy!
stay hydrated
Bye
I'm gonna eat my table
ty for empowering me at my balatro ball knowledge
tables are quite tasty
im gonna eat you
seance now has a 1/6 chance to make the blind bleed for 8 seconds
Eat the table

I know you.
oh youre just doing that
erm
for no reason
yes actually btw itās 2x ā> 1.5x ā> +8
which is crazy
cornball
not a very effective speedrun so far
probably not any%
im gonna turn you into a 7 of diamonds
wth
is it cringe to have saved the messages where local thunk says im right on a peculiar part of the game after he checked
Use the hangman on this guy
oh my god bruh
iām going to say yes
ban any% speedrun
@solemn basalt
nice flex ig
dead
time for the great particle accelerator
alright

I shot him
I thought I shot him
thank you thunk
Live execution
i was like i dont need to @ mods for that do i
i thought i did...
hes doing it himself
oh it's already on fire
owch
I am Spartacus
i mean the mods already got @ ed
no IM the one who shot him actually
Is this a murder on the orient express situation
turned him into a 7 of diamonds
7 of hearts
hearts is cruel
rough gem value strikes again
my
great...
Is anyone guilty if everyone shot at the same time
why is there no heartbreak joker turning my played hearts to glass š
Now that's a good philosophical inquiry.
bro pulled him to the back and finished the job
this is fire what
6e12 is the highest ive ever gotten unseeded. š
Econ is never a problem
for every heart card hanged you gain negative mult
double negative
heartbreak
only because you were the one being wrong smh (jk)
I've gotten naninf unseeded twice. Even one without red seals.
Joker less.
I assume something like a full house or 4 of a kind build is best? Something I can get planets in right away?
uh huh
straights
or 4oak yes
Straights
4oak mostly
just to watch him die
or 5oak or smth close
Ahh yes, 3 interest per $5
Wait whatās going on
basically any planet that scales with at least 3 mult
Iām in class right now sorry
is good on jokerless
One person individually pinged every mod
lol
Not full houses? I would think full house > straights.
dw localthunk handled the job
pulled out his gun and finished the job
localGOAT
TTM is an extra 5$ despite saying it "doubles your interest cap"
Bro rhymed job with job
then money tree is 20
Much love thunk
i see, kinda wish it would be 4x money
localthunk sent him back to the lob
pulled out the gun and finished the job
it doesnt work like that unfortunately
It goes even harder the second time
I almost died once after accidentally swallowing a water bottle cap. Good thing I didn't panic and die.
but even if it's OP, no one would normally take two econs tbf
How did you
i think in the US they have a small hole so you can still breathe
Mo no
if that happens
Why did you
wait iām thinking of pen caps
great, I just found a showman, Im going for a third To The Moon
interesting...
only if you turn it upside down or shake it
you have a point
YALL ARE MEAN
speaking the truth
LOOLLL
I was walking in my warehouse at my job and I was opening the water bottle with my mouth and it kinda just fell in.
thatās pretty scary
It was especially since no one was around at all
note to self dont do that again probably
I'm going To The Neptune with this run
Ngl drinking from a bottle tastes better than from a glass
Lul
WDYM NO
I agree with you
depends on the glass or bottle
well⦠thereās a reason water bottles expireā¦
Especially if itās been refrigerated or cold
plastic bottle?
they all have different tastes
I had to do the self heimlich on a cinder block
drinking from a glass bottle beats all
we love microplastic water š
I like to play and draw
I grate some plastics on top for extra flavor
a glass of cold water coming from a glass jug in the fridge is unbeatable
some ice cubes too
E
thatās more impressive than swallowing the cap
to preserve the coldness
Cold water SUCKS
MMMMM
i add some tap water for the perfect temperature
Cold water sucks but cool water is pretty good
Objective water ranking is
Hot > room temp >>> cold
i curse you with all ouija in your spectral packs
at least I got the win, now it's just the matter of getting another to the moon
so you prefer hot water
what?
Hot water is so good
delusional
Especially if i feel the burn inside my body
psychopath
GOD IS REAL
actual ragebaiter
this
Anyway don't open waterbottles with your mouth while alone fat away from others
Cold water doesn't even taste like water
fat away
thatās another issue
neither hot water does
too bad im at a healthy weight
i live acting dense
i think
is your bmi normal-> if not do you look fat/frail
easy way to see
gng is this build peak
ok this is funny but unfortunately i need dna first
Uh not fat. far away. I'm actually very skinny
a dna could be anything, even a burglar!
probably why the heimlich worked tho
white stake tomFOOLery
I see bbc
deserved
for spewing on gods second greatest gift
what you get for saying hot water > cold water btw
cool water
You cold water drinkers must be the one behind this
warm water>
you cold water drinkers, he says from the inside of the asylum
Lukewarm water is dogshit actually
I just put ice in my mouth and let it melt
It's either hot or just room temp
i chew on it
hot water is literally only good because it can make hot drinks. on its own its not very fun to drink
Actually i change my ranking
yea mb i meant room temp but hot water is diabolical
cold water all the way even in winter
based
3oak hermit 
Hot > room temp > slightly cold > cold > lukewarm
why doesnt this count as a flush
THERE IS NO GOD
Nah you're crazy
debuffed
Hot water in summer is good
All abilities are disabled affects wild card
what's that mod/texture
Deserved
debuffed wilds count as their original suit
Celestial Funk
thanks, looks cool ngl
why
You all already got affected if you think cold water is remotely as good as hot water
...
Time for zero space man hits
Its not remotely, its million times better than hot water
how hot would you define hot ? cuz when i hear hot water i imagine someone chugging boiling water
above body temperature
Lukewarm is so shit
i do be getting the weirdest nat negative in my runs
thats just lukewarm no?
Jimbo just joining in for the ride
Ma bad
Im pretty sure boiling is above body temperature
GG
How are yall
why would i drink hot water ever if its not for a hot chocolate or something
yes that's what hot means
nvm I found a baseball card, I killed Jimbo
That's scalding
;-;
But it is so good when i can feel the burn
Why yall talking abt body temperature
Masoquism
water*
Oh
?????
you're so weird
Why yall talking about water temperature
Like 50C is like the temp of fresh coffee and that will burn you.
10/10 bait thats prolly why tbh
what should I sell for the brainstorm
Sadly baseball
Feeling the hot water goes down through my body is like the best feeling ever
newbie feats
Brainstorm
baseball
Wait how many kings?
now for a hot take of my own regarding drinks. sprite is infinitely superior to cola and that zero sugar is best tasting but thars due to me being used to zero sugar
I had such a good runš
why is this the first thing i saw when i opened chat
still waiting for the 3rd to the moon tbh
Be a hot water lover
Join the light side
misprint in ante 10 is wild
Literally survived by trib
tuff
Ever wish you could fall apart like a Lego guy?
Hot water causes erosion on your body
Is this tuff on asia
not a joke
dont use hot water
i agree with the first one and the second im indifferent on
Looked like that
when you see wrinkles that bc people use hot water

This all started because I said I chocked on a water bottle cap.
I expected "i dont shower at all"
Literally no one agreed with my takes
Why would u expect that from me...
enough to not make me shiver is the ideal temp
Should've known balatro players aren't water drinkers
šæļø
Not like i know you brh
cuz u said you drink 50C water š
This game make me learn to read
Not 50 c
Somewhere in the 40s
Probably
idk how to say this on english but
Por quƩ esperarias que un desconocido no se baƱara
You said 60



