🕹・game-discussion

[lunar zealot]

if you can keep finding nat negative jugglers then sure

[pine dragon]

Technically its ceiling is when the game crashes

It's just very hard to get there

[lunar zealot]

you can get pseudo hand size fairly easily with cryptid and serpent

[pine dragon]

You can also pluto stack with Perkeo instead and that's a more sustainable way to do it

[lunar zealot]

observatory doesn't count

that's a different thing

[pine dragon]

Requires some voucher luck tho

[lunar zealot]

In the sense that trib sock isn't observatory

observatory itself probably has no ceiling but it scales so slow and it lags so much

i kinda dgaf

[pine dragon]

It achieves the same result

[fervent wolf]

Omg hi Kami!

[pine dragon]

And it is one of 2 most sustainable ways to hit the inf

Chicot spam being another one that honestly that's even less likely to work

[lunar zealot]

Yellow

[lunar zealot]

chicot doesn't really provide anything by itself

manacle is its doing but you still need baromi

[pine dragon]

Adds hand size permanently

But also basically eats your joker slots and makes scoring hard

Atleast you get good temperance value

[quartz ember]

isnt crimson bean kinda just an easier version of chicot

[lunar zealot]

Yes

[lunar zealot]

flash card with -10 dollars is the dumbest thing i've ever seen and i'm trying to be nice right now

what if you didn't get that investment tag

[lunar zealot]

Nevermind carry on

[calm furnace]

i have +15 from abstract

runner is the start of this run tbh

GG

now i just need some purple seals

[fervent wolf]

[pine dragon]

Bean also works

[quartz ember]

? thats what I said

[ancient gyro]

lol

[pine dragon]

Chicot is just cooler to mention fr

[quartz ember]

true

[mellow cypress]

indeed he is

[earnest kernel]

has there been any news on when update is coming out>

[ancient gyro]

tomorrow

[calm furnace]

lol what a shit ass joker i have almost 90 dollars

ANAGLYPH SO GOATED

EZ

[pine dragon]

Simply have Perkeo producing temperance/hermit next time

Smh

[calm furnace]

yeah lemme use a legendary to keep the worst joker in the game with me

[pine dragon]

Exactly

[calm furnace]

anaglyph is so funnnn

[pine dragon]

Red card is still worse

[calm furnace]

now revert the throwback nerfs 😭

[pine dragon]

Can't lie

[calm furnace]

yeah red card worst card in the game

[pine dragon]

I can't wait to spend 12 dollars in the shop to get nothing and receive 6 mult fr

[mellow cypress]

🎣

[calm furnace]

only meme baron good

i wanna break my campfire record i thought anaglyph would help with that

but not getting reroll voucher hurt

[ancient gyro]

simply keep him for vibes

[trim notch]

Yall thinknis a good option

[calm furnace]

you get it

its a good looking card

[pine dragon]

You don't have enough hands

For Loyalty

[calm furnace]

depends

its good with burglar

[trim notch]

[trim notch]

Watch ma hands

[ancient gyro]

blue is usually better for breaking certain a8 records

[trim notch]

[shell dagger]

no

[ancient gyro]

or yellow

in a way

[inner hollow]

Cool run lol

[calm furnace]

for campfire?

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[calm furnace]

how

[shell dagger]

zodiac sounds best for campfire shenanigans

[calm furnace]

anaglyph with enough luck should do it

[ancient gyro]

oh duh

[calm furnace]

if i had reroll voucher i could have gotten to like 20x

[inner hollow]

Japanese belgian waffle?

[ancient gyro]

sup

[calm furnace]

but each reroll tanked my campfire potential

[inner hollow]

Thats what ur name says right

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[fervent pebble]

blueprint on the ante 1 shop and i couldnt afford it and i get ancient joker in the next shop oh my god

[inner hollow]

Im smart

[calm furnace]

anaglyph skipping into money tags is one of the easiest ways to get like 400+ dollars

[inner hollow]

Lololol

[pine dragon]

If you're going for the biggest campfire before it resets wouldn't you want Perkeo

[calm furnace]

perkeo is 0.25x per round

[shell dagger]

no it isn’t

copy emperor

[pine dragon]

Yup

[ancient gyro]

all of that to tank your econ from rerolls instead of buying/selling shit from each shop

[calm furnace]

campfire needs 2 reroll voucher and thats it

[shell dagger]

you mean overstock

[fervent pebble]

im losing my mind

[shell dagger]

and liquidation

[ancient gyro]

gguh

[pine dragon]

Perkeo will still inevitably end up doing more before the fire resets

[calm furnace]

all 3 would be the ideal setup

[shell dagger]

and planet tarot merchant

[pine dragon]

You just save up a ton of emporers

[inner hollow]

Dont worry gng, ts happens, i got a rental negative brainstorm like 1st shop once i bought it and died 4 rounds later

[calm furnace]

i skipped into the hands played tag it gave me 200$ but i could only get campfire to x13

[ancient gyro]

or yk just hold every other consumable outside of emperor fool

[shell dagger]

cheating smh

[calm furnace]

the highest i ever gotten campfire was on ghost deck with two reroll vouchers overstock and liquidation

but i got lucky i rarely rolled into eternal jokers

so i was able to buy and sell every reroll

[inner hollow]

What yalls favorite deck

[inner hollow]

Mines gold

[shell dagger]

this is probably my highest

[ancient gyro]

uh

[shell dagger]

and it went up mid round cos purples

[pine dragon]

Probably Anaglyph

[calm furnace]

yeah mine was 20x

[ancient gyro]

i haven't played any deck outside of black for the last few months so I'll just say black for now

[inner hollow]

I dont rly skip blinds but ig it can be nice

[calm furnace]

purples so goated but couldnt find a single one this round

was using blue seals for campfire tho

[inner hollow]

I got like rly good jokers when i skipped a rare blind on ante 10 or smth

It was fun

I liek

[calm furnace]

dont skip for jokers

[inner hollow]

Its fun to gamble

[pine dragon]

I'll only do that if it's ante one and if it isn't worth I'll just reset

[calm furnace]

you skip for investment and or handy

but the skips change on your joker setup

[inner hollow]

this lowk looks like the "clock strikes 12 midnight arrives" guy😭

[calm furnace]

red card, hologram, constellation make pack skips worth a lot

[steel crag]

fellas ive been consistently going to 30 mil but i always lose at 300 mil any advice ?

[pine dragon]

If it's Anaglyph negative tag is worth

[ancient gyro]

uh

[calm furnace]

you can scale hologram like 3x easily on anaglyph

in one go

[pine dragon]

Depending on how many doubles you have

[inner hollow]

Honestly dont care ill just do how im feeling

[ancient gyro]

there's like little convenience for negative skips outside of stickering and two joker speculative synergies

[calm furnace]

scaling abstract joker

[north smelt]

Easy balatro win

[calm furnace]

[ancient gyro]

that's one of them yeah

i think i did that at one point

[inner hollow]

Or swashbuckler

[calm furnace]

when i was tring to c++ i tried negative skips only to find 6 negatives that i already have stickers on

[ancient gyro]

probably

[pine dragon]

Most jokers do at least something.

Getting a free negative copy of "at least does something" is fine

When you're getting

Like 4+

[raw whale]

ooo

[calm furnace]

yeah negatives do a lot, especially rental negatives

[ancient gyro]

unironically better scaling

[calm furnace]

abstract? with negs it should scale reliably better

[inner hollow]

Is there a seed which is like 4 gift cards and 1 swashbuckler

[calm furnace]

guaranteed +3 rental or not

[ancient gyro]

negatives sell for more increasing swash mult by more than 3 per joker

[shell dagger]

negatives sell for 3 if they have a base price of 1

[calm furnace]

i had a run with 2 poly gift cards and 2 swashs

[inner hollow]

Wowie

[ancient gyro]

check out docs highest mult dagger video

[pine dragon]

I want 4 Eternal Eggs instead

Replace the gift cards

[ancient gyro]

and use that seed

[inner hollow]

🤔🤔 but giftcard would scale by +25 while eggs would be +12

[steel crag]

im dead lol

[inner hollow]

Egg is better to look at tho

[pine dragon]

The eggs are funnier

[calm furnace]

gift card is egg but good

[inner hollow]

Fair point

[inner hollow]

Mhm

[tacit quail]

"got through the arm playing pairs"

phew

[calm furnace]

MATADOR ❤️

[inner hollow]

[pale wolf]

for stickering

[tacit quail]

i did get my 8 dollar

[pale wolf]

definitely not to win ante 8

lol

[tacit quail]

im sticker andy rn i love stickers

[calm furnace]

even for stickering its a massive gamble

better to save money and just buy jokers without stickers before the ante 8 boss

[pale wolf]

early on in stickering its by far the most efficient method of stickering

[ancient gyro]

oh boy rental ice scream

[calm furnace]

assuming your seed has a negative skip tag

[tacit quail]

bro NO celestiral pack has had pair in it

ive opened like 6

[inner hollow]

It melts before you can eat it

[pale wolf]

You can get like 2x the stickers on anaglyph if you run into the tag at the right time, and id just guess like 1.25x the stickers on average per run

[ancient gyro]

even irl it don't cost me 3 bucks every time I want one 💔

[pale wolf]

and I don't think anaglyph is that much worse than the other decks

[pine dragon]

Most jokers do at least something

And it's they're free that'll save you a lot of money on anything you want if it turns into negative

[ancient gyro]

anaglyph is like fine

[pale wolf]

assuming this is within like the first hundred stickers

[inner hollow]

Oh i always mix up rental with perishable💔🥀

[pale wolf]

I wouldn't do it later

diminishing returns

[calm furnace]

its not. but the strength of analgyph is very rng dependant. it can be a normal deck or an insane one depends on the skip tags available

and the jokers you get

[ancient gyro]

they're not "free"

[shell dagger]

he’s talking about averages already

[tacit quail]

oh yeah baby farm that matador oh yeah

[pale wolf]

It's a neutral deck, meaning you're not using those skip tags for anything except the negative tag when you see it because your priority is stickering

[tacit quail]

free 16$

[pale wolf]

In this context

[pine dragon]

Okay fine I give up... 5 dollars

[calm furnace]

on average its a good deck

[tacit quail]

wait what a pivot

[ancient gyro]

they're just less expensive on the anaglyph situation is insane

[tacit quail]

i have 2 eternals already

[pine dragon]

For more than that in value

[calm furnace]

yeah few weeks ago i only played anaglyph for 2 days and many runs i ended up using 0 skip tags

[vocal rose]

rip rebate

[calm furnace]

but some runs the skips were game changing

[vocal rose]

but you don’t need rebate no more

[tacit quail]

yeh lol

[pale wolf]

I think anaglyph on normal gameplay I.E not stickering priorities, actually does make a lot of skip tags way more viable but its still only like twice per run

[vocal rose]

where’s ur chips

[calm furnace]

anaglyph has some nutty scnearios

[ancient gyro]

yeah sure at worst it can be like a questionable handy tag (assuming none of them are eternal)

[calm furnace]

i had a run today where anayglh got me out of debt, scaled flash card and campfire

[ancient gyro]

try out the d6 tag stacking in ante 5-7

[tacit quail]

rip to u i cant buy u but hello

hes just saying hi

[calm furnace]

how does d6 tag work, it just stacks up for each shop?

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[pale wolf]

I think it works for the next however many shops

Like coupon tags

[calm furnace]

so basically like a negative chaos

[pearl moss]

You're set , should grab some track joker for completionist.

[ancient gyro]

your next two antes will just have d6 rolls where it starts out from 0 to 1 etc

[pale wolf]

except it's way better than chaos because they start at zero instead of only one of them being zero

You save like 10 more dollars than chaos

[pine dragon]

That's pretty good with certain tags

However...

It's definitely not the best deck

The question was which one I like the most

[tacit quail]

somehow, matador returns from a judgment right before t he boss blind

[calm furnace]

oh cool, should give that a try one day

[tacit quail]

sadly: water, he earns nothing

[ancient gyro]

after 6 rerolls youve spent 15 dollars, that's pretty good for 1 skip to benefit the next 2 antes

[pine dragon]

It does silly things. I like silly things

[calm furnace]

my fav skip ever was skipping into a standard pack with hologram

[pale wolf]

I mean I was only originally responding to the negative tag on anaglyph

negative tag is a bad one

[pine dragon]

Do I need to print 100+ dollars with investment tags? Probably not

But is it fun?

Absolutely

[ancient gyro]

especially not on switch (it crashes your game)

[calm furnace]

investment tag is the best tag in the game

[calm furnace]

fr? 😭

[pale wolf]

ante 1

[mellow cypress]

voucher tag

[vocal rose]

weird start

[ancient gyro]

on a specific version yeah

[mellow cypress]

voucher tag will forever be the best tag, uncontested

[pine dragon]

Or do I need to search 5 mega arcana packs for a Soul?

Probably not

[pale wolf]

ante 8 investment tag is pretty worthless id say, and ante 3-7 arent so good either

[pine dragon]

But it's fun

[calm furnace]

they can save a run mid game

[pale wolf]

uh

I doubt it

[calm furnace]

not just with anaglyph

i had many runs that were saved by investment tags mid game

money is money

[pale wolf]

yeah and you make it in blinds

and shops I suppose sometimes

[ancient gyro]

what use do I have with investment in late game when skipping once there increases score requirements faster than my linear joker scaling

[calm furnace]

getting out of debt

[pale wolf]

😭

doomed runs

[calm furnace]

is it a doomed run if i win it?

[ancient gyro]

the if statement

[pale wolf]

I mean okay maybe investment tag gets worse when you stop putting yourself in situations where it is the only out

is that a better statement

[calm furnace]

its situational

handy is better

mid game

[pine dragon]

Anaglyph is peak fun either way though

[calm furnace]

because it gives you the money on skip

[pine dragon]

It's just fun to use a ridiculous amount of double tags

[pale wolf]

teraria

[ancient gyro]

i think this maneuver killed doc on one of his gs runs

[calm furnace]

handy on average will be around 20$ by ante 3

[calm furnace]

skipping for handy?

[shell dagger]

ya

it was the vampire start run

[pale wolf]

You lose scaling and you increase score requirements, it's a double whammy

[calm furnace]

not all setups need scaling

[ancient gyro]

mhm

[shell dagger]

how else do you expect to get from 300 points to 400k without scaling bruh

[pine dragon]

That's kinda why you only skip if you're basically one shotting with good head room or it's ante 1

[ancient gyro]

most setups do because most of those jokers straight up ignore perishable stickers

[pale wolf]

stm builds

[shell dagger]

stm is scaling mult

[vocal rose]

@pine dragon

[calm furnace]

most do, like 95% of them

[pale wolf]

some people dont view it that way bc its roundabout

[tacit quail]

No new stickers (rerolled but only pulled gold sticker jokers) but kind of funny as hell to win with 3 joker

[vocal rose]

a chip joker would enhance my score by ALOT

[tacit quail]

when

[pale wolf]

however I can't really think of any other builds that don't use any sort of scaling value

[calm furnace]

but even with scaling setups, sometimes money injection worth losing scaling for one round

[pale wolf]

what builds can you think of

[shell dagger]

bullstraps

[ancient gyro]

stuntman fist blackboard

[pale wolf]

those are literally scaling based on your money

[pale wolf]

That's good, yeah

[ancient gyro]

oh wait I missed the point of the question

[tacit quail]

Oh uhh i know the builds

[pale wolf]

shoot the moon and raised fist are particularly special because you don't need to"scale" them, just fix

[pine dragon]

Investment tag value

[shell dagger]

thought you were responding to the above message

[pale wolf]

oh my b

[tacit quail]

i think swash and the joker for +3 per joker dont feel like scaling to me even if they are

[pale wolf]

no i should reply function

[tacit quail]

they just feel like high mult quick if you fill the joker slots up

[pale wolf]

swash is bad scaling and abstract is flat mult to me

[tacit quail]

yeah

swash is flat if you have no way of scaling it

i would argue that makes egg or gift card the actual scaler

[ancient gyro]

or legendaries

[calm furnace]

gift card works better with swash

[pale wolf]

sometimes you have expensive jokers even without egg/giftcard

editioned rares

[tacit quail]

true but eh rarer

still flat within run

[shell dagger]

nah swash egg is usually better bc it doesn’t lock in your full joker setup

[tacit quail]

wheels

[calm furnace]

if swash counted itself, it would get much better with gift

[pine dragon]

Giftcard only works better with 3 more consumables

[shell dagger]

dagger gift beats dagger egg tho

[calm furnace]

its +4 per round with 5 jokers

[ancient gyro]

gift card works better when you have at least 3 jokers

[calm furnace]

and you can get out of gift card and keep the scaling

unlike egg

[pale wolf]

swash egg>swash gift> dagger gift> dagger egg>swash egg

That's pretty cool

[calm furnace]

egg swash is forced to waste 2 joker slots

swash card can get out of it

[shell dagger]

waste?

[pine dragon]

Yeah but jus sayin like if it's really early egg is better for it

[pale wolf]

use

[ancient gyro]

is this for like total mult or

cause dagger doubles it

[calm furnace]

how

[shell dagger]

swash gift is only good late if you already have xmult

[pale wolf]

just general viability

[pine dragon]

Yup

[ancient gyro]

oh

[shell dagger]

if you’ve got random page 1s and econs then eventually ur gonna lose that scaling

[mellow cypress]

Matador work on wheel when playing the face down cards?

[calm furnace]

dont think so

[pale wolf]

but idk

[mellow cypress]

cheers

[pale wolf]

facedown bosses dont do it

[pine dragon]

I don't think it does

Yeah that would make sense

Your hand isn't really doing that

The boss activated itself you didn't really make it activate

[calm furnace]

handy to keep around

Ox with matador is so funny

[ancient gyro]

matador works on bosses that directly affect your hand scoring by changing the values. this can be card debuffs, flint/psychic axing or denying score, de leveling your base score like arm

[ancient gyro]

yeah that

[calm furnace]

i really like matador

[ancient gyro]

same

[vocal rose]

game stop passing me free wins

[calm furnace]

and its such a nice looking card

[vocal rose]

like this COULDNT GET ANY EASIER

[mellow cypress]

this is too early for bean,I could full skip though

🤔

Want that crimson bean action

[pine dragon]

Simply confuse the Ox by playing that hand repeatedly

And constantly gain and lose $8

[raw whale]

ladies and gentlemen
we got 'em

[vocal rose]

hmmm when should I stop scaling

[ancient gyro]

seeing duo

oh when

never

[trail pier]

another pretty good gold stake run

i got a shop 1 brainstorm and a shop 2 baron lmao

[pine dragon]

Sock and bussy

[vocal rose]

bruh??

[raw whale]

AND i finally aura'd a poly king

[mellow cypress]

and you took the baron??

[trail pier]

yea i wanted to force a baron build for fun and it worked

xd

[pine dragon]

How would they even afford shop one brainstorm anyways

[trail pier]

it was in a pack

[pine dragon]

It's 10 dollars

[mellow cypress]

you just used up the one time in history a speculative baron pays out

[pine dragon]

Oh

[shell dagger]

you can make it work on plasma deck

since early is so ez

[trail pier]

i was on ghost deck so the brainstorm was polychrome and i had green joker

[shell dagger]

oh

[trail pier]

so i just used that for score early game

[pine dragon]

I've seen shop one brainstorm but was unable to afford it (wasn't in pack)

Shoulda been playing yellow deck

[raw whale]

wow

[pale wolf]

heres a bigger one that can be made into a rug if you so choose

[trail pier]

i actually didnt know the flint triggered matador

[ancient gyro]

square rugs for my rectangular office

[pine dragon]

I think flint halves it After you play it

[ancient gyro]

flint tampers with your hand scoring so it makes sense

[trail pier]

flint usually just kills my runs anyway so its not that useful xd

[ancient gyro]

o

real

[pine dragon]

Imagine

[ancient gyro]

flint killed me the most during my plassma epidemic

[trail pier]

well it depends on the run but i think flint is one of the most annoying bosses overall

[pine dragon]

It kills me sometimes

Especially as as a really early boss

[ancient gyro]

that's reasonable

[mellow cypress]

now we pray for bean

[raw whale]

alriiight

[ancient gyro]

eye flint wall needle water are practically universal threats

[trail pier]

the wall also sucks earlygame if you dont have your scaling full setup yet

[mellow cypress]

first roll

aight

[pine dragon]

Piller used to be my least favorite ante 1 till I got tired of it and just skipped right for it

[vocal rose]

FUCK

[ancient gyro]

hook and manacle are usually the most threatening a1 bosses

[last bolt]

son

[ancient gyro]

oh

[vocal rose]

im so ass

[ancient gyro]

crimson racism

[trail pier]

ante 1 hook my beloathed

[mellow cypress]

HELL YEAH

[vocal rose]

on the LAST hand is when it flowerpot

[raw whale]

buck and soskin

[pine dragon]

Piller can at least be skipped to those are sucky

[vocal rose]

every other hand was either red card or blackboard

I actually just got destroyed by crimson heart

violet vessel would’ve been easier

[shell dagger]

108 dolaz

[ancient gyro]

pillar doesn't outright deny your 5 card hand searching which is required to beat 600 with no joker support

[vocal rose]

tried too hard stickering flower and michel

[ancient gyro]

also since you're mostly going to play one shot hands prior to a1 pillar, the boss won't do much to directly interfere with your card searching

[vocal rose]

also wasn’t using tarots efficiently

[trail pier]

when i get pillar ante 1 i usually try to play flushes of the same suit for the first 2 blinds

[ancient gyro]

dam

[calm furnace]

hook is so evil

[pine dragon]

It debuffs a lot of your cards which can kill you without joker support

So I just skip to it anyways

[calm furnace]

pillar is manageable just rotate suits for flushes

[mellow cypress]

wait was crimson bean patched 😭

[tacit quail]

flint is so fucking hard

[ancient gyro]

without joker support, pillar doesn't kill you when only the ADDITIONAL few chips are debuffed

[tacit quail]

Wow direct upgrade free win bye banner

[pine dragon]

You can look for the same suit the prior two blinds

You're just not garunteed to find them

[mellow cypress]

it was this is gutting news

[ancient gyro]

skipping to it isn't worth the additional risk that would be like seeing less shops and more opportunity cost by denying it for a nothing burger a1 boss

[austere whale]

What triggers matador?

[pine dragon]

You'll need about 3 5 card hands if your cards are debudded

Which is inconsistent

[austere whale]

Ik theres a chart but i cant fing it

[ancient gyro]

the odds of hitting the exact same cards that would end up killing a well optimized run to the boss with discard order is very not likely

[pine dragon]

Optimize what you have 0-1 jokers

[ancient gyro]

2 5 card hands and any pair or higher poker hand that averages 100

[raw whale]

gonna save scum for fun just to keep as many negatives as possible

[austere whale]

Why doesnt hook trigger matador 😭

[ancient gyro]

don't think I've died to a1 pillar yet with zero support

[tacit quail]

campfire spam and double skip to win the a8

[raw whale]

I didn't even need to save scum lmao

it just copied the blueprint

[ancient gyro]

doesn't directly change/affect your hand scoring according to game code and shoddy description

[raw whale]

like what

[tacit quail]

+1 gold (campfire)

bro earned it i was not winning

[raw whale]

the fuck

alright back to back invisibles i guess

[austere whale]

Does pillar trigger matador?

[pine dragon]

Yes

[naive cove]

Do seeded runs disable achievements?

[vale mesa]

yes i think

[naive cove]

Fuck

[vale mesa]

that would make them trivial?

[naive cove]

Idk how I am supposed to get this flushed achievement without a perkeo

[pine dragon]

Simply find a Perkeo

[vale mesa]

just get wild cards?

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[naive cove]

There’s no way to get enough wild cards just from arcana pack pulls

[ancient gyro]

mostly boils down to
do you have a lot of money
do you have a lot of value generators

[vale mesa]

lovers death cryptid can get you wild cards

and you dont need a lot

[naive cove]

You’re assuming that I’m gonna hit the wild card when I pull a spectral pack and that there’ll be a cryptid in there

My pack pull luck is atrocious

[ancient gyro]

almost like there are other ways to find specific enhancements

[vale mesa]

no i mean you dont need a lot of wild cards

[naive cove]

I’ll have to play fuckin ghost deck and find one in the shop

[pine dragon]

If you really feel like it you could just reroll charm tags till you find a Perkeo

[vale mesa]

if you draw four wilds and are holding lovers that can also work

[ancient gyro]

generally it sounds like abandoned will be one of the better decks to search for that achievement for overall flushed

ghost for 3 wilds via cryptid upstairs

[pine dragon]

Wait the achievement is only 5 wild cards? Is there a stake requirement

[raw whale]

what's funny is i could realistically pivot to baron here if i really wanted to

[ancient gyro]

zodiac for shop specific consumable blocking

[ancient gyro]

play 5 wild cards

[pine dragon]

No stake requirement?

[ancient gyro]

nah

[pine dragon]

That's so easy-

[ancient gyro]

how long do you think it'll take

[pine dragon]

Like... A run or two

If you're actively trying for it

[lost vault]

balatro !

[ancient gyro]

could you uh

maybe show it to that guy

so he doesn't feel bad

or help him out or something

[pine dragon]

Yeah sureee

[raw whale]

ok foil one i might actually buy just for fun

[lost vault]

errrrmm… base edition is better fuz it can get negative 🤓

[raw whale]

negative is exactly why i go with foil

look at the build

[pine dragon]

Ight

So after you find Lovers just try to death the wild

Alternatively there's standard packs but your hit rate will be lower

[tacit quail]

tryna figure out what best deck is to get all of these is. do i just keep playing pairs on ghost and see where it goes. need to finish c++ some day

[raw whale]

in fact it's actually beneficial for me to buy the baron there

[pine dragon]

Since you can do this on white stake you don't need to worry too hard about scoring though this will make bigger hands more consistent anywas

Since you're duplicating the same card

[vale mesa]

black deck

[tacit quail]

Yeah lol you funny

[ancient gyro]

playing like a nanlet for plasma usually works

[tacit quail]

Arcana skip a1 soul ???

round 0 soul

[whole storm]

tuff

[tacit quail]

trib ok gg shit run

[pine dragon]

Trib? You're set

[olive basin]

Man wanted chicot

[pine dragon]

Unless you find a plant

[tacit quail]

yeh plants gonna nuke me a7

[ancient gyro]

or a3

[tacit quail]

this is why i dont like photo or anything

[pine dragon]

Simply find the reroll voucher

[olive basin]

Skill issue

[tacit quail]

nah a3 early enough to play around

[ancient gyro]

if you like find nothing after

[tacit quail]

a7 youre on full commit

[ancient gyro]

i mean like zero flat scoring alternatives

sorry

[raw whale]

nah no baron value today

[ancient gyro]

black deck pilled

[tacit quail]

He thinks he wants to be in the build but I say fuck off I'll find you without rental

[pine dragon]

There's a way to beat the plant still

You need jokers that don't care about what's being scored tho

[tacit quail]

yeh true

but if im goin for a trib run i may aswell right

[pine dragon]

Esp since polychrome is helping out regardless

[tacit quail]

its what 20 mins waste? idk

idc

[ancient gyro]

20 minutes of holding r?

[tacit quail]

gonna try full commit it so i can have 2 slots open at end or smth and get stickers

[surreal pier]

Why does Ectoplasm increase the hand penalty with each subsequent use?

[tacit quail]

29k we so here

[raw whale]

also what's funny is that all negative jokers actually contribute to the score

in a shocking turn of events

[lost vault]

i mean surebits the worst legendary but damn u can still win vro

[tacit quail]

yeh

[lost vault]

(sell for 10 bucks trust)

[pine dragon]

Crazyyy

Don't be dissing trib like that

[tacit quail]

yeah ok we here

[lost vault]

its a good joker just like

[ancient gyro]

the worst legendary is still functioning as a tier blue boy

[tacit quail]

plant nuke incoming

[lost vault]

the other legends are more consistently good

[pine dragon]

Chicot over here doing nothing for a majority of the game

Absolutely nothing

For most of the game

[ancient gyro]

chicot enables higher risk builds to roam free

[lost vault]

chicot haters the same typa mfs to complain about losing to the plant

[tacit quail]

free 50$ (i missed my full house and only 2 paired)

[mortal needle]

Gotta love seeded runs

[ancient gyro]

and prevents one of the major run ending roadblocks

[surreal pier]

Why does Ectoplasm increase the hand penalty with each subsequent use?

[pine dragon]

It still doesn't contribute to scoring and most boss blinds aren't doing anything at all to most buillds

[ancient gyro]

balancing maneuver

[pine dragon]

So likeee

[lost vault]

so you cant get infinite jokers

[mortal needle]

Because otherwise you'd get too many jokers and just break everything

[surreal pier]

Well does make sense

[raw whale]

noooo my negativessss

[pine dragon]

Yeah Chicot is still good but imo Chicot is the worst

[surreal pier]

Chicot is good but slightly boring

[pine dragon]

Does nothing for 2/3rds of the blinds in the game

[raw whale]

uranus

[mellow cypress]

trib worst by far

[tacit quail]

well actually i die to only pulling a single pairs worth of k+q in 2 discards and 3 hands

[pine dragon]

Still doesn't do much since most bosses don't matter

[surreal pier]

Why's that

[tacit quail]

tribs ass i die ante5

[mellow cypress]

🪴

[tacit quail]

its photochad joker

[pine dragon]

I sure hate hitting 2x mult 5 times

[raw whale]

YOU'RE KIDDING

[tacit quail]

its literally just retrigger andys dream

[surreal pier]

I forgot what exactly the plant does

[mellow cypress]

it rips you a new one

thats what

[raw whale]

just a reminder there were zero brainstorms thus far

[surreal pier]

No like really what does it do

[pine dragon]

A singular boss blind you can still beat anyways

[mellow cypress]

disables face cards

[surreal pier]

Just that?

[mellow cypress]

yes

[tacit quail]

does a lot

[pine dragon]

That's it yeah

[raw whale]

i actually wanna sell dusk

[mellow cypress]

if your only scoring is trib you die

[pine dragon]

Still beatable

[tacit quail]

basically turns off trib/photo/etc or any card triggers

[surreal pier]

Calling a joker bad cuz of a boss blind that countera specifically that?

[ancient gyro]

you're saying chicol nullifying eye/flint/wall/ needle/water/vv/crimson heart threats is not contributing to the run? something that normally ends gs runs as a whole?

[mellow cypress]

trib is simply less consistent

[surreal pier]

It's like saying Bloodstone sucks cuz the head exists

[pine dragon]

That's your mistake for letting your only scoring be trib

[surreal pier]

I think it's the head

[pine dragon]

Bloodstone does suck

But the head isn't why

[surreal pier]

Ye but not cuz of the head

[surreal pier]

Exaaaactly

You get my line of thought

[ancient gyro]

i thought the conversation topic was about single legendary joker viability

[whole storm]

is it worth getting

[pine dragon]

Trib is just a good joker

For 8 antes unless you're seeing the plant exactly Ante 7 you're probably beating it easily regardless

[ancient gyro]

so individually ranking their viability would make sense

well

[surreal pier]

If being in a vacuum is the criteria then chicot is just useless

[pine dragon]

Yup

We need to rework the criteria

[mellow cypress]

what is throwback at

[pine dragon]

Otherwise Chicot is the worst

[whole storm]

2.5

[pine dragon]

By far

[mellow cypress]

hand level?

[surreal pier]

Facts

[pine dragon]

Who cares about disabling the boss blind if you cant score enough to beat it

[mellow cypress]

and what hand u goin for

[ancient gyro]

(not really) new criteria: a8 gs streaks

[whole storm]

flush level 4

[pine dragon]

Okay so Trib is fine

[mellow cypress]

best = most consistent and useful no matter the deck or hand

[raw whale]

it hurts to see him go

[mellow cypress]

hence trib

[pine dragon]

Still

[mellow cypress]

is the worst

[surreal pier]

Aight, that's neat criteria

[raw whale]

I'm sorry, banner

[hardy fable]

and I'm the best

[raw whale]

i couldn't protect you

[ancient gyro]

scoring usually isn't one of the harder issues of winning the game, it's usually having to play around boss blinds since that doesn't come naturally

[mellow cypress]

stuntman on plasma SSS tier joker my fucking goat yk

[pine dragon]

Trib is still good under that criteria

Lol

[surreal pier]

Ikr

[surreal pier]

Trib is hella neat, and just like photograph, it goes crazy with retriggers

[mellow cypress]

I dont think I need him right now....

[hardy fable]

temp value trust

[surreal pier]

Double chicot 😭

[pine dragon]

We're comparing this shit to Chicot who doesn't do anything for 90% of the game and doesn't even do anything against most boss blinds because they don't do shit

[surreal pier]

Respect

[mellow cypress]

if I sell luchador after chicots go off do I get ANOTHER increase when on the manacle???????

[tender quarry]

Yorick > Canio > Chicot > Perkeo >> Triboulet

[ancient gyro]

as the worst legendary, he's still a tier overall despite his needy requirements of reaching equivalent scoring capabilities and mitigating risk in average runs

[mellow cypress]

gold stake canio > that just me, but yeah correct asf

[pine dragon]

You're still comparing this to a worse joker

Chicot

[ancient gyro]

if I had a dollar every time I saw this

[tender quarry]

The pivot required to make Trib consistent is too much and too unreliable, especially if it doesn’t already fit in with what is already somewhat of your gameplan (which it will almost never do)

[mellow cypress]

when are you going to realise chicot is stupidly strong

[raw whale]

LMFAO

[mellow cypress]

we are not talking endless

[pine dragon]

Most bosses are nothing but an annoyance

[raw whale]

still no brainstorm

[pine dragon]

That's it

[tender quarry]

And of course it has bad boss vulnerability

[pine dragon]

He does nothing for basically 100% of the game

[mellow cypress]

so do you not play gold stake at all?

[ancient gyro]

that's simply not true

[pine dragon]

All the time

[nova flare]

Stupid question for C++ if I just get gold does it clear all other stickers? Or is it a Grind up the ladder type deal

[ancient gyro]

what's your highest streak so far

[tender quarry]

Chicot takes every ‘probably wins’ run into an ‘always wins’ run

[surreal pier]

I mean somewhat? Some boss blinds won't do anything while some are run killing

[mellow cypress]

second nat neg

[raw whale]

what do i even do here, do i just wait for a vouher skip?

[surreal pier]

Such as the plant for a face card build, but if you're not running face cards what harm does the plant cause?

[mellow cypress]

early/ mid chicot = very free win

[ancient gyro]

pairs usually happen to have the least tangent to their game plan outside of those boss blinds

[surreal pier]

Tangent?

[mellow cypress]

Econ, you may not be using faces for scoring but they could be your economy core, faceless, parking etc

[surreal pier]

What's that mean in this context?

[grave valve]

Best joker combo and how to use?

[ancient gyro]

bosses that don't harm pairs will harm some other poker hand or specific score timing

[ancient gyro]

depends

[surreal pier]

Oh ic what u mean

[wispy coral]

Can idol hit stone cards? I feel like it should but i've never seen it

[surreal pier]

There's a lot of really good and really fun ones

[grave valve]

I’m trying to get plasma deck and I’m currently using ghost deck

[surreal pier]

Photochad is easy to run

[ancient gyro]

build is different every run so it's best to not rely on specific things when they just don't appear

[shadow shore]

❤️‍🩹

[grave valve]

anything else photochad is boring asl

[surreal pier]

O

W

Strong but boring to some

[shadow shore]

Hologram certificate dna

[surreal pier]

Hmm

[pine dragon]

Don't look for "the best joker combos"

[surreal pier]

Oh yes this one

[naive cove]

So I played a flush house with 5 wild cards and it did not give me the achievement. Apparently you can only play a flush with wilds, so making copies of wild cards doesn’t even work

[pine dragon]

Take what you get and run with it

[surreal pier]

T'was quite fun

[mellow cypress]

astronomer constellation

[hardy fable]

or high roll for me

[tender quarry]

I’m not even sure Photochad is the most common run winning combo when stuff like Green Joker + Square Joker is a thing

[ancient gyro]

yeah like the bosses that kill pairs don't usually kill 5 card hand builds. unfortunately there's too much overlap for bosses that can harm both builds so naturally we just focus on what pairs get hurt by the least and pretend the other bosses are a non threat when it doesn't affect the majority. if that makes any sense

[pine dragon]

Okay... One of them has to be different mb

[surreal pier]

Baron Mime is also fun but slow to set up

[hardy fable]

have you played bime yet

[vale mesa]

5 superpositions

[mellow cypress]

square pants probably most consistent win possible no?

[shadow shore]

This

[grave valve]

I’ll try it

[hardy fable]

only white stake

[ancient gyro]

prob mistaken from most common to most popular

[grave valve]

What jokers work with it tho

[surreal pier]

How exactly do they synergize?

[wispy coral]

Baron mime feels insanely rare

[tender quarry]

It’s consistent but also Spare Trousers is an uncommon so doesn’t quite fit

[surreal pier]

Makes some sense ye

[grave valve]

mk what jokers work with baron mime I’ll use it white stake ig

[hardy fable]

bime

Baron
mIME

bime

[pine dragon]

Also is very hard to get

[wispy coral]

I've never seen mime in ages

[mellow cypress]

fair

[hardy fable]

any copy and Gen

[pine dragon]

Like don't focus on joker combos

[grave valve]

other jokers to use with it Gng

[pine dragon]

Just take what you can get

[grave valve]

Alr bet

[vale mesa]

100 blueprints

[hardy fable]

I thought you thought bime was a typo of mime mb

[surreal pier]

I forgot if sock retriggers face cards in hand

[pine dragon]

You're going to lose if you only look for combos

[ancient gyro]

generally you can get it in a huge majority of runs since it's just locked under economy optimization and plasma

[surreal pier]

I gotta get my skill up, I very sadly can't win every run yet

[vale mesa]

doesn't

[hardy fable]

solution is to not look for combos, look for a single joker, if you're doing that might as well look for me

[wispy coral]

Sock - cards that you play, mime - cards that you don't play

[mellow cypress]

Doc🙏

[vale mesa]

solution is to look for good enough jokers

[surreal pier]

I have "watched" some of his videos but just like Roffle I usually put their videos on during bedtime and I just nap

[pine dragon]

Worry about synergy when you already have jokers to use

[raw whale]

lmao

[ancient gyro]

i tried to get like 10 or 15 win streaks on each deck outside of black and let's just say plasma made me give up real quick

[pine dragon]

Don't try to find specific ones

[ancient gyro]

the 15 rotating one was pretty eye opening

[surreal pier]

Was plasma that hard?

[mortal needle]

Is this joker setup correct for red sealed kings or am I miss-counting the balancing here? I have red-sealed steel kings but I'm currently farming my gold red-sealed kings for money

[shell dagger]

plasma is high variance

[ancient gyro]

yeah
most of your main scoring is pretty hard to find in shop

[whole storm]

im finally up to blue deck black stake 😎

[surreal pier]

Oh, dang

[shell dagger]

it’s optimal for both red seal steel and red seal gold

[vale mesa]

im pretty sure thats optimal

[raven pollen]

hello

[vale mesa]

oh hi lol

[mortal needle]

I've been doing this set-seed for a day or two now just to see how far it goes so

[mortal needle]

Aight thx

[vale mesa]

didnt expect to see you here

[tender quarry]

I think plasma is more “difficult” than “weak”

[mellow cypress]

plasma easiest gold stake icl

[ancient gyro]

mult sources are half as useful. chip jokers are rarer to find. more bosses outright kill you (flint). x mult pivot is harder to pilot until you have 2 good ones.

[ancient gyro]

i think so too

[raw whale]

so this might sound stupid but i'm selling the dusk

[raven pollen]

lol, i knew you where here for a while now
i'm doing a run with the black deck, got any advice?

[tender quarry]

It’s the hardest to optimise and most different out of any deck

[ancient gyro]

I don't see ppl saying this when they want to do c++

[surreal pier]

I forgot what flint does

[vale mesa]

uh win

[raw whale]

i just can't be bothered anymore

[ancient gyro]

halves your base chips and mult

[pine dragon]

Plasma is kindaaa broken it just

Plays the game entirely differently

[surreal pier]

Oh damn

[acoustic kettle]

I found the groove on plasma but lost it all after like 2 weeks of playing other decks

[raven pollen]

welp, good to see you again

[tender quarry]

Highrolling a win with plasma is easy, winning consistently with plasma is not

[ancient gyro]

this doesn't translate too well on gs

[raw whale]

I WAS RIGHT

[ancient gyro]

when you wanna play on it to win with more jokers in mind

[distant thunder]

WHY ARE THEY PERISHABLE 😭

[surreal pier]

I presume high rolling means getting hella lucky?

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[pine dragon]

P much

[surreal pier]

Aight

[raw whale]

genuinely what in the actual fuck

[ancient gyro]

plasma is more of a 1 and done deal similar to black deck

[raw whale]

blueprint is the only positive joker

[acoustic kettle]

That sock is starving for some retrigger

[ancient gyro]

no real person is going to do c++ on only plasma

haha

...

[raw whale]

it's just for the show dw

i'm gonna milk the sock for money

[pine dragon]

What is this seed

[raw whale]

no idea but it just kept giving me invisibles and specifically blueprint from them

[pine dragon]

4 blueprints is crazy what ante you in

[raw whale]

5*

[pine dragon]

Sorry 5

[raw whale]

ante 17

[pine dragon]

Oh

[raw whale]

wow

not even glass

oo la la

[blissful fog]

E78 on plasma dayum

[shell dagger]

Likely more like e74

Oh it’s idol

E72 then

[slender creek]

Balatro

[acoustic kettle]

No balatro

[raw whale]

so i think buisness card is unironically my biggest tource of income here

[sharp crystal]

Stuff like this is why I love this game

[whole storm]

😔

[magic tree]

temperance, swashbuckler value

[sharp crystal]

I did not realize that

[magic tree]

you're welcome 🙂

[sharp crystal]

Thx

[magic cosmos]

honestly still not worth

[acoustic kettle]

Trust the eternal egg

[mellow cypress]

🥲

[tall sky]

the dood

look at this dood

[mellow cypress]

good chariot.....

[magic cosmos]

eternal egg agenda

[junior cave]

Eternal rental egg and it’s peak

[sharp crystal]

Is that the balanced deck? How do you unlock it?

[mellow cypress]

win

[magic cosmos]

I dont play gold stake to begin with too stressful

[acoustic kettle]

Win any deck in blue stake

[magic cosmos]

just unlock all and enjoy the game as the lord intended

[pine dragon]

Only thing I dislike about gold is rentals tbh

[mellow cypress]

"Local news, woman makes worst take in known human history"

[pine dragon]

Worst take? Not really.

I don't buy a game to not have most of the game

Give me the entire game

Not parts of it

[acoustic kettle]

You unlock things as you go

[junior cave]

Oh no, it’s Purple stake

[acoustic kettle]

It's blue

[pine dragon]

I unlock it all immediately or find a mod that does it for me if that's not an option

[mellow cypress]

oh no, a game has a progression and reward system designed to extend replay-ability and give you a sense of accomplishment? how gross

wacko

[pine dragon]

With games like this the progression isn't that fun. It's not an RPG

[magic cosmos]

okay keep struggling with unlocking everything bit by bit and limiting ur fun u little masochist

[mellow cypress]

It does not take long at all nor is it a struggle

[acoustic kettle]

You don't even realize it actually

You just play and suddenly almost everything is unlocked

[pine dragon]

I still don't wanna bother with it

[mellow cypress]

if you struggled with unlocking all I am so sorry to inform, you've a major skill issue
But dont worry!!!
you can improve :)

[magic cosmos]

eeeh who cares I wanna have fun and see numbers go brrrr

[pine dragon]

And people here say they aren't rude

[magic cosmos]

i assure you im more than good in this game 😭

[mellow cypress]

I recommend the pokies<3

[acoustic kettle]

Most of the big number jokers are easy to unlock

[magic cosmos]

thats not my point 😭

[pine dragon]

They are

You're not wrong

The entire game is easy to unlock

We just don't want to bother

That's fine

[mellow cypress]

no ur point is you want instant gratification rather than working for something

[acoustic kettle]

Well you know

[magic cosmos]

thank you

[magic cosmos]

well I wanna be spoiled u have a problem with that?

[acoustic kettle]

You might see the jokers more often if you have some locked still

[pine dragon]

No I don't. I want too see how good I am with the entire game not 1% of it

[magic cosmos]

naw I wanna see jimbo like a billion times in shop

[pine dragon]

I want to gain more skill with the entire game

Not just part of it

This isn't an rpg

[magic cosmos]

literally like I don't wanna limit my fun

[mellow cypress]

No, I don't, there's a reason the button "Unlock All", exists, for people like you.

[pine dragon]

I'm glad progression wasn't forced on me because this isn't the type of game that justifies progression to me

[mellow cypress]

It is also seemingly intended as less progression, but as an expansive tutorial; you pick up the undiscovered, to learn with them

[magic cosmos]

I bet if we play on a random seed at the same time i will walk u down like its nothing

[pine dragon]

It's not an RPG, it's not a level based game

[sharp crystal]

Is that a moded thing or pc only?

[pine dragon]

There's no point in the progression imo

It just wastes time to me

[magic cosmos]

NUH UH WASTE OF TIME

[magic cosmos]

its just an option in the game

its there for ppl who wanna have fun

[mellow cypress]

I did just say I don't have a problem with it, I'm just expressing a valid counter arguement

[acoustic kettle]

Counter point

Unlock all unlocks throwback

[magic cosmos]

geniuenly

[acoustic kettle]

[mellow cypress]

THROWBACK MY GOAT 🗣️

[trail pier]

certificate my beloved

[pale wolf]

the unlockable portion of the game isn't because of progression, its education

[magic cosmos]

and my counter argument is NUH UH

[acoustic kettle]

Nah

[jade arch]

Should I get rid of dusk for a potential gold sticker later?

[pale wolf]

it teaches you to use the whole game if you want to use the whole game

[acoustic kettle]

Worst xmult scaler in the game

[pine dragon]

Like could I reasonably unlock the game? Sure. I have a few hundred hours it wouldn't be hard

[magic cosmos]

throwback is actually useless 😭

[mellow cypress]

had all unlocked by far less than 100 hours

far less

[pine dragon]

But he looks sick as fuck

[trail pier]

yeah throwback is very rarely useful

[pine dragon]

I pressed unlock all after about 10 minutes

And was happier for it

[acoustic kettle]

I see more uses than i would realize out of throwback

But like

It's never a first choice

[mellow cypress]

I enjoy speedrunning, occasionally, love me a full skip

[sharp crystal]

Since it disables achievements, I made sure to do on a second profile, thx for letting me know about this

[mellow cypress]

ante 9 round 9

[vapid grail]

So uhhh

[magic cosmos]

no problem have fuuuunnn (unlike some ppl)

[trail pier]

for me throwback is occasionally an extra bit of xmult if i took the investment tag ante 1 😭

[mellow cypress]

Good for you mate.

[tender quarry]

Throwback is mostly a consistency measure for when the only thing you really want anymore is some xMult

[acoustic kettle]

It can be useful if i am preserving a good perishable to the end of a run

But likw

[magic cosmos]

he is but i wont take him even as a negative

[acoustic kettle]

Very very rarely

[magic cosmos]

twin

[tender quarry]

Sometimes an x2 is all you need to definitely win and Throwback is something that you can always make an x2

[pine dragon]

Unironically one of the best speedrun jokers tho lol

[magic cosmos]

or just to block uncommons

[vapid grail]

I got a negative showman, negative pareidolia, business card, foil Chad, 2 photo cards and silly happy jolly smiley. How far it will take me?(I play 1 mult card + 4 stone cards*

[tacit oasis]

I hate this game

[magic cosmos]

i mean theyre on a different universe

[acoustic kettle]

A ton of uncommons are useless anyway

[tender quarry]

(Also skips are slightly better than people think and some skips can become worth it sometimes with Throwback)

[magic cosmos]

none of our rules are applied there

[vapid grail]

U prob focus ur builds around hard hands. Try making hight card build, or pair build

[pine dragon]

They have someeeee use

Baseball card value

Lol

[magic cosmos]

do I smell negative tag propaganda

[tender quarry]

This is a statement saying you should average 23 rounds rather than 23.5 btw

[tender quarry]

Fuck no

[vapid grail]

I got 2 more photocards in the shop

[acoustic kettle]

Some skips can be good

[pine dragon]

I love negative skip (On anaglyph alone)

[acoustic kettle]

Something like a handy tag

[tender quarry]

Negative tag is the big stinky

[vapid grail]

Which gets me to total of 4 pohotcards

[acoustic kettle]

Investment tag a1

[pine dragon]

Reroll tag for boss

[acoustic kettle]

Nah

[magic cosmos]

i mean a solid 70% of all jokers are 😭

[pine dragon]

That's saved me before

[mellow cypress]

rolldown for mime of the century, from 580 to 9

[pine dragon]

I got a run ending boss and rerolled it with a tag

[magic cosmos]

sometimes a run saver ngl

[tender quarry]

Handy is generally bad but can sometimes be justified with Throwback, so that’s a decent example

[pine dragon]

Usually useless

However

[acoustic kettle]

Pair runs really rarely run into any run ending boss

[acoustic kettle]

It is big money

Especially like ante 7

[pine dragon]

Pair is cool unfortunately I don't have fun playing pairs

[magic cosmos]

two chicots?? who are u fighting????

[tender quarry]

If you’re ante 7 shops just have too much value (and money has relatively less in turn, even if there’s a lot of it)

[mellow cypress]

manacle gives permanent handsize increase for every chicot you have -1

[pine dragon]

If it ain't fun playing

[acoustic kettle]

You miss one free reroll

[pine dragon]

It ain't worth playing

[acoustic kettle]

Against handy tag giving like 40 dollars

[tender quarry]

The problem with econ tags other than investment in general is that they give you econ when you don’t really need it (that being that you already have it)

[magic cosmos]

interesting

[mellow cypress]

That's why chicot THE GOAT

no reroll voucher at all yet 💔

[fierce tiger]

invis joker decided to make my run a lucky cat run

[magic cosmos]

on ante 14 geez

[mellow cypress]

is it in the room with us

the mime

[magic cosmos]

its looking rough out there

[tender quarry]

And booster packs and resetting the reroll cost (each reroll costs an extra $X where X is the number of rerolls you did in the previous shop as compared to splitting them) and however much value can be squeezed from the blind

[acoustic kettle]

Well if you're going for naneinf you can get rid of the chicot

[mellow cypress]

first invis 🥀

[mellow cypress]

yeah bro naninf aint happening

but I might

for the invis here

[steel crag]

fellas should i take the mime im playin a flush deck

[mellow cypress]

❌

[formal abyss]

is eternal rental red card worth?

[steel crag]

whyyy

[acoustic kettle]

Yes

[tender quarry]

There’s a lot of value in booster packs late in particular

[mellow cypress]

gold stake yes

[acoustic kettle]

Maybe not ante 1

Actually

[formal abyss]

no no like literally shop 1 rn on spectral

[magic cosmos]

he feeling a lil silly