🕹・game-discussion

[unreal iron]

i know

[potent tree]

4 to the 5 would be...1024 i think

4, 16, 64, 256, 1024

[unreal iron]

ez win

[potent tree]

maybe i'll take this to endless? we're already at fullhouse level 18 on ante 6

70m damn

oh cool omen globe appeared. more hologram scaling

[fallow briar]

thats one fat blackboard

[serene forge]

I hate you

[placid ridge]

lmao

don't worry, it crashed and burned

[serene forge]

predictable

[placid ridge]

current run

[pallid ferry]

next run for sure

[potent tree]

guys...is it time to ditch holo??

x4 currently

yeah screw it, rip holo

[pallid ferry]

doc??

[calm furnace]

yeah im losing

[potent tree]

the new invis duped bp

[calm furnace]

oh observatory clutched

[fallow briar]

sure ill take a negative bean

[vocal rose]

that would mess up black board

[calm furnace]

also using burnt joker for straights feels so gooooood

[eternal pumice]

[fallow briar]

i have mostly black cards

what do i sell?

[placid ridge]

$9 and not looking amazing but I guess this saves the run for violet vessel.

[neat ore]

Should john balatro make a balatro hoodie

[still geyser]

i think john balatro should meet up with john pork to make a balatro bacon

should i play balatro today 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[lunar zealot]

what am i looking at

[placid ridge]

me buying a rental baron to survive

[potent tree]

sock isn't worth replacing anything with right

[lunar zealot]

ts so ass

[still geyser]

a madness run!

[calm furnace]

why

[neat ore]

Should john balatro make a shoe with converse like you'd have jumbo on yout shoe what ya guys think?

[calm furnace]

i assume yoy play flushes

[placid ridge]

because next round is violet vessel

[calm furnace]

madness not doing enough?

[still geyser]

holy chadphotochad

[placid ridge]

not quite 😢

[calm furnace]

whats jupiter at

[placid ridge]

not enough

[potent tree]

i'm gonna skip sock for now i guess. it's not the end of the world

i can survive at least to ante 13

[placid ridge]

current situation. Flush house is lower mult than flush though.

[still geyser]

what in the 2 jokers is this

[placid ridge]

more normal screenshot in case you can't see lol. Flush is 125x16

[calm furnace]

least peak painted deck run

[calm furnace]

ah fuck, had flush been any higher glass card + madness would clutch VV

[still geyser]

i have not touched painted deck please enlighten me

[placid ridge]

yeah 😢

[calm furnace]

painted deck makes playing straights 4oak and any big hand braindead easy

i had burnt joker and seeing double and i was levelling up straights

then sold everything for stencil

[lusty flax]

No

[still geyser]

stencil goated

[calm furnace]

and speculitive telescope helped

[still geyser]

[calm furnace]

sadly its slightly weaker on painted deck

[still geyser]

right the -1 joker slot

[calm furnace]

im just glad burnt joker and telescope worked together

was afraid burnt joker would ruin telescope

[still geyser]

yeah thats what i thought did celestial packs appear more or something

[calm furnace]

thanks to the handsize

i was getting straights on first draw

so first discard a straight to level up

2nd discard to find another straight

[still geyser]

mmmm interesting

[calm furnace]

so i didnt use many throwaway hands

[still geyser]

nice congrats on the run

[calm furnace]

thanks

live love painted deck

[still geyser]

"live love black deck!" and i died to ante 5 small blind

[calm furnace]

i dont consider black deck in the game

or plasma

my game has 13 decks

[still geyser]

wat why

plasmas fun

black deck.. is black deck

[calm furnace]

plasma is anything but fun

[still geyser]

very fun in my opinion

[calm furnace]

just like black deck i never touched it again once i beat gold stake

[still geyser]

you hate it because of the scaling?

[waxen quartz]

plasma scaling is nothing, but the way to play other decks is not going all in on chips or mult...

[still geyser]

wat

[waxen quartz]

and chips only can be tough to do on higher stakes

[calm furnace]

the way to play it on gold stake is just not fun

sure you can find ante 1 wee and it becomes the easiest gold run of your life

[fallow briar]

I'm still here btw but I'm gonna choose rn which one

[still geyser]

elaborate pls

[exotic spire]

hey does anyone know what to use for a seed analyser? i just got a crazy seed, 4 souls and 2 back to back and i wanted to check it out

[still geyser]

scary face dies its too scary

[still geyser]

use the soul on github

[potent tree]

forgive me thunk...for i have sinned.

[calm furnace]

how us that a flush house

[fallow briar]

I think blueprint works well

[calm furnace]

the 3rd king is a different suit

[fallow briar]

It's the website name

[still geyser]

its a full house

[potent tree]

yeah i haven't played a single one of those this run

[calm furnace]

i cant read

[still geyser]

its okay bro

[fallow briar]

wait why did i read that as flush house as well lmao

[potent tree]

i haven't found an ecto this entire run despite having omen globe...and this is the 3rd invis to appear

[calm furnace]

balatro players cant read

[vocal sun]

just pulled a foil red seal ace from a random pack bc i was hoping for an ace

[still geyser]

no i can read.. look your name is... uh... amy

[vocal sun]

so thats nice

and cavendish now thats nice

[fallow briar]

quite a good scaling mult

[still geyser]

because it is!

[exotic spire]

thanks man, seed is posted in seed chat if you wanna try it

[potent tree]

this ain't gonna be enough sadly. but another damn satisfying run

only 36 full houses played the entire run

and this blind was the first i had to play more than one to defeat the blind

[still geyser]

check out my lucky hand

[vocal sun]

damn i skipped a death after realizing just too late and i think it got me killed, couldnt find this which was a big part of my money, i know its not smart to rely on just one card but its wtv

[vocal rose]

yep its the best

[fallow briar]

67 🔥

[potent tree]

69 is better

[fallow briar]

ak47 is better

hack would go hard with this card

found in a standard

i shouldve prolly skipped

[distant salmon]

para worth getting?

[quartz ember]

100% no

eternal pareidolia is never a take

[quartz ember]

unless you already got plant and mark

[fallow briar]

you obviously r gonna get canio next arcana pack so yeah

no though

[blissful fog]

Wasn't expecting a somewhat of a high score run. I had perkeo in this run that helped me deck fix and for econ.. too bad was trying to get cryptid on sixth sense but failed

[fallow briar]

serpent w boss blind

did u open the soul

[blissful fog]

Did open it but I reset when I found out its trib.. which does nothing at that point

[fallow briar]

yup

[fallow briar]

run was over anyway

[distant thunder]

do i invis and ecto or ecto when i find the lucky cat?

[fallow briar]

😭

[fallow briar]

oh u have ecto

idk

[distant thunder]

ye in the corner

[fallow briar]

probably ecto and invis

worst case scenario you get dna or scary

[blissful fog]

Was just trying to get a new high score in my stats at that point lol. But not bad ante 20

[distant thunder]

dna wouldnt suck that bad but scary would be horrible

[fallow briar]

u almost beat my high score

e60

[distant thunder]

ill ecto and see what happens with the invis

does invis carry eternal tags?

[fallow briar]

ok i need to sleep now gn

[fallow briar]

no

[distant thunder]

ok fire

[blissful fog]

Would've gotten that if all of my cards were like steel red seal

[fallow briar]

i think?

[blissful fog]

Yup

[distant thunder]

ah dang

[fallow briar]

i had that but no hand size boosts

besides vouchers

[blissful fog]

My econ was bad when I sold the perkeo to the mime

[fallow briar]

i think it was 6 or 7 hand size with like 7 jokers that were either bp mime baron or brain

and mostly steel red seal

[blissful fog]

Used the ecto twice huh

[fallow briar]

nah one was negative natural and i had antimatter

[blissful fog]

Why do you have only 6 or 7 handsize then

[fallow briar]

idk i might be misremebering

[blissful fog]

Yea prolly, that's too low of a handsize for that build

[fallow briar]

probably i actually ectod once instead of natural negative

[blissful fog]

Ahh I see

[distant thunder]

NEGATIVE RESERVE PARKING 🗣️

[fallow briar]

whatever i gotta sleep now gotta wake up to grind trackmania

[blissful fog]

Alr

[distant thunder]

THIRD BLUEPRINT

LETS GOOOO

and plant boss blind

seems fair

[distant salmon]

what

how do you get 3 blueprints

[distant salmon]

i did get canio

and i losrt

[distant thunder]

first from the shop and then two lucky invisible jokers

[distant salmon]

how do you get invisible jokers?

[distant thunder]

to unlock them you need to win a run while never having more than 4 jokers

[distant salmon]

ohhh

[distant thunder]

and then you come across them like any other joker

[distant salmon]

whats the rarity

[distant thunder]

rare

[distant salmon]

ok

thanks

[pale wolf]

its a specific joker, not a modifier

[distant salmon]

ok

[potent tree]

has anyone ever actually managed a naneinf run without baron mime? i know theoretically you could somehow find enough joker stencils to manage it or perkeo/observatory but never seen it

[calm furnace]

CAN I STOP GETTING CRIMSON TODAY

im cooked

[potent tree]

just pick up the rental

[distant thunder]

this is sad af

[calm furnace]

i can reroll but what if i get the bell

[calm furnace]

yeah but i cant one shot unless i have glass

[potent tree]

what hand you running

[calm furnace]

if it disables shortcut my straights are iffy

[potent tree]

ah

[potent tree]

yeah stick with the heart i'd say

[calm furnace]

deck bloated becaause hologram

i was playing 3oak and 4oak before i found shortcut and then i kept finding saturn

so i pivoted

[potent tree]

definitely heart. you just pick up 2 rentals or whatever

[distant thunder]

all these red seal poly lucky jacks went to shit :D

[potent tree]

then pray

[calm furnace]

can only fit one

[potent tree]

[neat ore]

I FOUND A NEGATIVE INVISIBKR JOKER

[calm furnace]

crimson is 1/4 against painted

💀

[potent tree]

oh wait painted

ah fun

no antimatter?

[calm furnace]

i think im gonna reroll

[potent tree]

damn

acorn is fodder. leaf you should be able to facetank

[distant thunder]

first shop-

[calm furnace]

ughh i spent my money cant reroll

[potent tree]

bell is your worst nightmare

oh...

[distant thunder]

its screaming to me like the green goblin mask

[calm furnace]

with shortcut nah

i forgot i wanted to save money for reroll 😭

[potent tree]

also do you not display stake stickers

[proper cobalt]

i’m didn’t even know you could get them blue cards in the shop

[potent tree]

in run

[calm furnace]

lets see

[potent tree]

only with da ghost deck

[distant thunder]

you can with the ghost deck

[proper cobalt]

ahh

[blissful fog]

Got planted rip

[calm furnace]

its rotating on my xmult

[potent tree]

that's why ghost is the best deck to gold sticker jokers on

easy deckfixing

[potent tree]

play a throwaway hand

[blissful fog]

Pray that it hits jimbo next hand

[potent tree]

jimbo or shortcut

[quartz ember]

nah you can get 2 straights

[calm furnace]

ok it landed on jimbo

on the last hand

[potent tree]

yippee

[quartz ember]

nice

[calm furnace]

luckily i had a straight

i hate crimson so much

[blissful fog]

Ggwp

[potent tree]

free gold sticker jimbo

[blissful fog]

Busted

[potent tree]

i once had 2 constellations at 12x or smth

[calm furnace]

2nd shop ante 1 constellation 😭

[potent tree]

and a brainstorm copy

[blissful fog]

Dayum

[calm furnace]

opened a pack it was poly const

or holo madness

[potent tree]

and then another time a single constellation was at 17x

[calm furnace]

would have went madness if it was eternal madness but it wasnt

[potent tree]

what the godly buffoon pack am i witnessing

[calm furnace]

non eternal madness hurts tho

[blissful fog]

You only need one madness

[potent tree]

only if you want to dupe it with ankh

[blissful fog]

To win

[calm furnace]

tho i bumped into 0 spectral packs

[whole storm]

[calm furnace]

rather have a poly const

[potent tree]

you can facetank leaf with enough xmult honestly

[calm furnace]

yes one madness is all you need but its very limiting in joker choices

[potent tree]

copying 5 xmult or better is usually sufficient

[calm furnace]

ok i should stop playing painted

enough

funny been trying 4oak builds today and twice i pivoted to straights

i even sold the order last run because i didnt want straights and next shop shortcut appears 😭

[potent tree]

i'm just getting started on painted

the last run i did took a bit tho

[whole storm]

how much champion blinds are there and are they gonna add more

[blissful fog]

Champion blinds?

[potent tree]

champion? you mean finisher

[whole storm]

idk what they called man

[potent tree]

there are 5 finishers

amber acorn, cerulean bell, crimson heart, verdant leaf, violet vessel

[slow iris]

we have barely any idea what the next update will add or change

[potent tree]

idk if thunk wants to add more

[blissful fog]

He probably will add more maybe

[calm furnace]

Crimson - evil
Viollet - mostly evil
Bell - free unless you playing straights
Leaf - 99% of the time its free unless you are locked on 5 eternals
Acorn - not a boss, get out of jail card

[potent tree]

bell is more evil for me than the top 2 honestly

because whenever i see it i'm not running pairs

[calm furnace]

even with flushes and 3oak 4oak its doable

and straights with shortcuts

[slow iris]

Leaf - 99% of the time its free unless you are locked on 5 eternals
the 1% is when you rely off of score on trigger and selling a joker is impossible or unrealistic

[potent tree]

yes yes

[calm furnace]

yeah but if you are running photochad, bloodstone, acnient joker etc...

you should always leave a sellable spot

[slow iris]

when you rely off of score on trigger

[potent tree]

or THROWBACK

[calm furnace]

yeah leaf can end a run but its so easy to plan ahead against it

just like plant is a nothing burger boss

because if you are running photochad you gonna have a glass card

[potent tree]

i am vegetarian so leaf can't do shit to me lol

[calm furnace]

viollet vessel and crimson cannot be planned for

at least with VV not easily

crimson is mostly rng

and crimson being rng is why its a bad boss and should be redesigned

[potent tree]

finisher blinds matching fnaf animatronics

amber acorn - chica
cerulean bell - bonnie
crimson heart - foxy
verdant leaf - freddy
violet vessel - golden freddy

my opinion

[lunar zealot]

what is bro saying

[heady narwhal]

i disagree with this

[lunar zealot]

What

the whole point of balatro is planning for violet vessel

[heady narwhal]

there are several things you can do to avoid getting murdered by crimson heart

[lunar zealot]

so that if vv comes you're ready

a good build is one that beats vv

[heady narwhal]

steel and glass cards are one option

it's also a good balance against scaling chips jokers

[lunar zealot]

you plan for violet vessel the entire game

by assuming the a8 boss is always vv

[heady narwhal]

thered be basically nothing in the way of getting a free win with runner or castle or whatever if it werent for heart

[lunar zealot]

consequently that also solves the scenario of crimson heart given a build that beats vv has a decent shot of beating heart

Unless your jokers are like

turboscaled madness and nothing else

[heady narwhal]

i'm of two minds about the easy a8 bosses because they're incredibly boring but also it's fun to get the occasional run where i barely scrape by on amber acorn

[lunar zealot]

i like a run that doesn't beat vv because of the thrill of checking the blinds in the menu

[heady narwhal]

i think it'd be nice to buff two of the three easy bosses

not necessarily to vv levels

[slow iris]

debuff cards and jokers until 1 joker sold

[calm furnace]

not always

[potent tree]

matching behaviors of each. foxy and CH are rng based, bonnie (CB) and chica (AA) matching by colors, VV being golden freddy (rare but tough) and freddy being basic debuffer in VL similar to how he can't be visually tracked

[calm furnace]

yes if you have a build focused on planet levels steel and glass can help

[heady narwhal]

i personally like the idea of a finisher blind which has two random boss effects combined. but i'm not sure about balance

[calm furnace]

it doesnt change that crimson mechanically is RNG and RNG is not fun

[heady narwhal]

something like eye + mouth or needle + water could just Kill You

[heady narwhal]

this is factually incorrect

[calm furnace]

its funny that most non finisher blinds are scarier than ante 8 ones

[slow iris]

debuff jokers until one playing card is sold

[calm furnace]

using factually against something factual 😭

yeah not rng at all

[wind jolt]

Playing seedless, technically the whole game is RNG

[potent tree]

forces one joker to be sold each round (CH+VL)

[heady narwhal]

i don't see what's wrong with using "factually" against something factual

if it was against something subjective i'd understand the issue

[calm furnace]

boss mechanic is built around being random

therefor its RNG

[slow iris]

you're factually wrong and i'm factually correct

[potent tree]

therefore*

[heady narwhal]

no the other part is factually incorrect

[calm furnace]

so calling the boss that is based on RNG, RNG is true

[heady narwhal]

the "rng is not fun" part

[calm furnace]

its not fun losing a run because rng

if i lose against VV its on me

[heady narwhal]

i would argue that randomness is the key mechanic of almost every run-based game

[frank kiln]

that's the nature of a roguelike though, there's no guarantee you will succeed 100% of the time

[heady narwhal]

balatro but you can only play the TUTORIAL seed

[calm furnace]

not really because there are rougelikes that can be beaten every run on the hardest difficulty

FTL and Hades as an example

[heady narwhal]

rng can significantly increase strategic depth because it creates intermediate states between success and failure. or whatever

[calm furnace]

a good game design makes skill outcome bad luck and games like FLT and Hades if you are skilled enough no matter how bad is you seed you will always 100% win

[frank kiln]

generating jokers is random, generating packs is random, generating tickets is random, like the whole game is RNG it's perfectly natural for it to just regularly generate a moment where oops your run is over

[heady narwhal]

there are also fun things where you need to decide whether to consider best case, worst case, mean, median, etc etc

[quartz ember]

well, balatro basically can be as well

[slow iris]

I Survived 100 Days Playing Only The TUTORIAL Seed in Balatro Hardcore...

[calm furnace]

yes but bosses like crimson heart work against that idea

[heady narwhal]

get better jokers

[frank kiln]

I achieved Naneinf on the balatro tutorial seed before Ante 8

[heady narwhal]

you just need to plan more contingencies

[calm furnace]

last run i had constellation at like 6x and hologram. if crimson rotated on them i would lost

[quartz ember]

sure do, but as others have pointed out something like what jokers you get is random as well

[calm furnace]

crimson can be a nothingburger boss at the same time

[manic talon]

Its the hearthstone argument, theres bad rng and good rng, Discover is good rng because you get to have some semblance of control over it, Lightning storm is bad RNG because its just a coin flip of getting screwed or not, mostly just giving the player a feel of control over the RNG itself

[wind jolt]

Don’t rely on a single joker

[quartz ember]

and then you had jimbo doing nothing

[calm furnace]

i bought it as a fodder to take a hit

but on painted its 1/4

[hexed viper]

hi guys

[heady narwhal]

when i have scaling that good i'm often able to score like 6x the blind requirements

[hexed viper]

im a blueprint

[frank kiln]

pokemon TCG Pocket having an entire game mechanic of coinflips

"if this card flips heads it negates all attacks!"

[heady narwhal]

if you were on painted you could totally set up steel and glass

[hexed viper]

admit it guy you all want me

[calm furnace]

pokemon itself is coinflips too with attack accuracy

[heady narwhal]

especially if you had the money to get const to 6x

[frank kiln]

not to the degree of the digital card game lol

[calm furnace]

the card game is worse?

[quartz ember]

not to mention you could have rerolled crimson

[frank kiln]

the card game has had multiple metas that were entirely reliant on certain cards getting coinflips

[calm furnace]

i didnt wanna risk bell (even tho i had shortcut)

[heady narwhal]

this "shuffling " mechanic is bullshit. what do you mean i can just not draw the hand i need to score points because i got unlucky

[manic talon]

Isnt there a pokemon card where you keep flipping coins until you lose a flip, that seems so funny (and kinda ass to play if the effect is any good)

[heady narwhal]

that's silly

[frank kiln]

Celebi EX and Serperior decks were awful for about 3 months

[heady narwhal]

bell on painted with shortcut seems like a piece of cake

[calm furnace]

not on a bloated deck

[frank kiln]

Celebi EX and one of the Eevee cards, Celebi does 50 damage per heads and there's 1 coinflip for each energy attached

[heady narwhal]

well there's your problem

it sounds like you had to risk going through heart because your build was unreliable

[frank kiln]

and then Serperior doubles the grass energy on all cards, so a Celebi can attack with 1 energy, or if it already had 2 energy you now get 4 coinflips!

[heady narwhal]

if you lost it would've been due to your own previous decisions

[calm furnace]

not really i was doing 4oak and stacking queens and scaling hologram but i wasnt finding mars

i pivoted to straights because it was my highest levelled hand

[manic talon]

I have never met someone who played pokemon TCG seriously, only MTG Yugioh and like, one piece and digimon, so i dont know how those effects are recieved

[calm furnace]

pivoting to straights was the correct decision

especially when shortcut appeared

tho i should have trusted shortcut more

because i was able to 2 shot the water without discarding

[heady narwhal]

i think rerolling would've been 100% correct

[distant thunder]

JUDGEMENT MY GOAAAAAAT

[heady narwhal]

1 in 4 chance of a boss with a very small chance of killing you

[calm furnace]

in hinghsight absoutely

my build beats VV

[heady narwhal]

so long as vessel was safe

[calm furnace]

and despite the bloat shortcut can still form a straight

i should trust shortcut more

[signal frigate]

We talking about the TCG mobile game rn?

Anyways, yeah that mechanic is fucking hilarious because you can oneshot any Legendary cards if the Goddess of Luck felt a little funny that day

[unreal iron]

gholdengo

i HAAAATE gholdengo

[manic talon]

I dont know if theres a difference between mobile or normal tcg

[signal frigate]

That's also an Eevee card I'm p sure

[unreal iron]

there is mobile has less cards

[whole storm]

won my first challenge deck 😎

[unreal iron]

and normal tcg is way wayyy more op

in terms of cards

[signal frigate]

There's tiny bits of difference, there's less in TCG mobile because it's a relatively new game

[unreal iron]

put a pocket card next to a tcg card you can see the difference

[signal frigate]

Rn, the mobile game is making waves

[calm furnace]

is there a mod that makes the challenge decks played on gold stake?

[signal frigate]

Ye

[calm furnace]

i should check it out would make for a decent challenge

[unreal iron]

theres a lot of cards sure but gholdengo is

one of them

[manic talon]

fym theres more than one

[unreal iron]

celebi

uhhhh

[signal frigate]

I like Cubone's cards, basically the same coin flip mechanic but you have to land tails 3 times at the same time p sure

[unreal iron]

eevee as ray said

[manic talon]

That clause seems like very sacky if the effect is even close to playable

[calm furnace]

but im not sure if golden needle on gold stake is good for mental health

[signal frigate]

In the actual Pokemon games though, competitively

Gholdengo still fucking sucks to fight against

[unreal iron]

fuck gholdengo

that fucking cheesestring that i HAAATE

singles? nasty plot sweeper, scarf user

[signal frigate]

Completely negates any and all stat changes with make it rain

[unreal iron]

doubles? insane spread damage

[vocal rose]

weirdest naneinf ever

[unreal iron]

nasty plot again

[signal frigate]

I remember the time I got wiped by Karen of all people because of her fuckin Houndoom

[unreal iron]

houndoom?

[signal frigate]

She spammed Nasty Plot and my moves keep missing

[unreal iron]

its so bad

wow

[signal frigate]

That allowed her to oneshot every one of my team

I got Pokémon'd

[signal frigate]

Not when the game says I can't play that day as she stacked a fuckton of stat ups

But yeah, I ran it back and surfed all over everyone with my Azumarill

That SAME run back, the most insane thing happened

My Breloom tanked a Hyper Beam after I fat fingered a Counter

He lived at 2 HP and basically won me the champion fight

[weak relic]

Very disgusting indeed

[civic shadow]

Royal Flush but my eyes suck so I didnt see them counter: 2

[latent egret]

could farmed some more money man

[rustic aspen]

most incoherent lineups I've ever put together but 9 new gold stickers

loyalty card remaining..

[shadow shore]

Naneinf cant lose right ?

[potent cairn]

temperance is insane with egg bro

[shadow shore]

Whatever ante

[latent egret]

loses ante 39

[compact gazelle]

fix your name :3

[shadow shore]

Yeah that's the point

[acoustic kettle]

Loses ante 39

[latent egret]

naneinf<nan

[acoustic kettle]

Nan can't be compared with nan

So nan can't be bigger or smaller than nan

[compact gazelle]

oh hey that was my last one too :3

what a pain

[compact gazelle]

wdym they’re obviously the same letters in the same order

[weak relic]

Hmm so what's the best deck for c++?

[willow frost]

how did these win anything wtf

[weak relic]

Anaglyph or ghost?

[willow frost]

anaglyph is not that good dont bother

[compact gazelle]

the first one maybe cause saturns busted and idk hack glass?
i dont even wanna know about the second

[compact gazelle]

blu :3

[willow frost]

at least with the second stone joker scales, but what the fuck

[compact gazelle]

personally i like ghost abandoned zodiac

both for fun and for stickers

[willow frost]

yeah i almost exclusively used ghost

[rustic aspen]

The first one is kinda a lie cause I had double burnt + space at the start, I just spammed pairs and slowly replaced my joker lineup with the non gold as I saw em. Lv52 pair combined with some steel cards I was good to go lol

Boring strat but I had to do it

[compact gazelle]

plasma with an uncredited ante 2-7 appearance by double copier marble joker trust

[willow frost]

oh ok reasonable

[compact gazelle]

this is like winning every run with level 20 pair and glass chad

[rustic aspen]

Second one I spammed high card on plasma, ante 1 cert gave really good blue seal value

[willow frost]

yeah thought plasma may have been involved

gah damn though

[compact gazelle]

what was stone joker on

[acoustic kettle]

First one doesn't seem as insane

[rustic aspen]

200

[compact gazelle]

anytime i see stone joker it’s either at 25 chips or 250

[acoustic kettle]

Can just be playing glass hackable cards

[rustic aspen]

if it works it works lol

[compact gazelle]

that’s what i was thinking too :3

[willow frost]

you would never catch me playing with hack as my (basically) only scoring joker lol

[compact gazelle]

oh my god what am i witnessing
dispatcher there’s been a murder

[lusty flax]

Account based in white stake

[willow frost]

well i guess i am now yeah, given i havent played in a few months

[potent cairn]

retrigger is basically everything you need

[willow frost]

the only thing i'd want to do now until the next update is ante 39 but that takes like 7 years per run

[potent cairn]

negative splash looks kinda cool

[willow frost]

looks more like actual water lol

[tight pike]

Stone Joker is underrated I can't lie

[tight pike]

Go for double chicot to reverse a boss blind

:)

[marsh dove]

common stencil w

[shadow shore]

Tf

[pale ridge]

I'm playing da balatro and I got almost all my jokers foil

[junior cave]

Fourth Gold Stake clear and first one in a while too. I cannot believe I got away with this build. Stuntman in retrospect is not my brightest choice but still somehow won.

[midnight timber]

who tf are you

[rocky tiger]

first gold stake win

third attempt on gold stake

[willow frost]

GG!

[midnight timber]

i won my first white stake

[rocky tiger]

foil eternal bp, baron, luchaor, poly eternal cartomancer, rental luchador, 9x eternal const

[marsh dove]

first gold staker win and its baron 💀

[rocky tiger]

is that a good or bad thing

[marsh dove]

baron is a pretty shit joker so its kinda crazy your first win was with it is what im saying

[rocky tiger]

the 8.7m hand was my high card tryijng to switch negative to luchador

[rocky tiger]

oh i actually really like it

[marsh dove]

for endless its good, for winning runs its bad

[midnight timber]

any tips for red stake yellow stack

[rocky tiger]

i was running to do list for majority of the run got very lucky had some bp high card action

[marsh dove]

its not never the play but its basically never the play

[marsh dove]

yeah i see why it would be a good choice there

[midnight timber]

pls help i keept losing

[marsh dove]

baron is just really hard to build into

without getting lucky

[rocky tiger]

here was my deck it was all hearts kings but then the thing to disable hearts came up

so i had to world a bunch

[rocky tiger]

lol

[marsh dove]

for context on what a more normal gold stake roster looks like the most generic is probably chip scaler, mult scaler, whatever random xmult you could find, random eternal you took early to survive if it was needed (a lot of the time is)

[rocky tiger]

its funny bc i got stuck on blue stake for like 4 days and orange stake for 5 hours and then third tried gold stake

[marsh dove]

yeah you got a very good seed

nice run

[rocky tiger]

want to see my abomination of my orange stake run

[marsh dove]

sure

[rocky tiger]

dont ask questions

[marsh dove]

thats crazy

[rocky tiger]

yeah

b2b soul ante 6

and then another in 7

[marsh dove]

yorick is a free win

trib chicot is too actually that combo is really good

[midnight timber]

🤩

[marsh dove]

if you can deck fix for the trib

[rocky tiger]

chicot is my favorite legendary even though hes not that good

[marsh dove]

🔥

[rocky tiger]

i was playing two pair and full house with an ahnked pants up until i saw souls

[marsh dove]

i dont usually like trib because plant

[rocky tiger]

i had double money seed and to the moon so econ was very good

[marsh dove]

but chicot is fire for that

[lunar zealot]

i would sell this stencil

[rocky tiger]

if i had a nickle for every time i got a negative chicot in a stake run

[lunar zealot]

otherwise you win too fast

[rocky tiger]

id have 3 nickles

[marsh dove]

wait

was that a nat negative?

[lunar zealot]

Unless the ante is high

[marsh dove]

oh 3 times. ecto then

[manic talon]

Just lock in (this was miserable to play up until the last ante)

[midnight timber]

it's like ante 3

[rocky tiger]

that one was

[midnight timber]

or 2

[rocky tiger]

other two were ecto

[lunar zealot]

Ermmm

[midnight timber]

currently on ante 3

[lunar zealot]

Put stencil before grimbo i would say

[marsh dove]

my condolences

[rocky tiger]

yorick was nat holo too

[lunar zealot]

or buy more jokers

i would want to turboscale grimbo for now

[marsh dove]

what

thats insane

[rocky tiger]

that run died in endless at 1.2b bc my invis joker hit to the moon

[marsh dove]

a nat negative legendary with 2 other legendaries

[manic talon]

Its my own fault i pivoted from shoot the moon for "fun"

[marsh dove]

actually bonkers run

[rocky tiger]

what, you dont get that often?

i thought it was normal

lol

[marsh dove]

cant say i do 😂

[rocky tiger]

btw

12 souls never seen canio

[pale ridge]

This setup is peak

[rocky tiger]

7 chicot, 2 perkeo, 2 trib, 1 yorick

[marsh dove]

chigoat 🔥

[rocky tiger]

fr

i call for chicot and he comes running

[marsh dove]

btw in gold stake you'll see canio before too long bc whenever you beat a gold stake with a legendary its removed from the pool until you get all of them

[rocky tiger]

oh i see

well

that requires me to win gold stake

so

[marsh dove]

that way you only need 5 souls to get all gold stake stickers rather than having to have a really long hunt

for the last sticker

[rustic aspen]

It’s a nice system

[rocky tiger]

i sometimes just play blue stake on random decks and try to play out runs no matter what gets given to me

so i guess im probably better at using most of the bad jokers than a lot of people

i think baron is pretty strong for winning

[marsh dove]

it really isnt

[tight pike]

Is that a negative steel joker?

[willow frost]

thats green joker

i dont think steel joker gives +mult

[marsh dove]

drivers license fire

[tight pike]

Oh aight

[marsh dove]

it does not

[pale ridge]

Yep it's green joker

[tight pike]

It just reminded me of a steel joker

[pale ridge]

Nat neg grimbo

[tight pike]

Yall also fw erratic deck or am I the only one?

[pale ridge]

I like it

[marsh dove]

youre playing into a different deck every time

its fun

[acoustic kettle]

Not fun enough

[tight pike]

The only thing that matches its randomness is a modded deck which I won't discuss here

[pale ridge]

What's the name of the deck sleeve mod?

On the balatro mod manager thing

[tight pike]

Card Sleeves

[tight pike]

For reference it's Misprint Deck

[rustic aspen]

I love doing 4oak on erratic

[tight pike]

If you want complete stupidity play Misprint Deck with Misprint Sleeve

[pale ridge]

Erratic deck with misprint sleeve is the run I'm going for

[midnight timber]

am i need the wrong chat

wasn't i in game discussion

[tight pike]

No

[pale ridge]

This is game discussion

We went a bit oofcourse

[midnight timber]

no it's not

it's mod dicsusison?

[pale ridge]

Bug bc I'm in game discussion

[tight pike]

Eh it's still game discussion, just a bit offtrack

[tight pike]

The Plant on abandoned deck is just nothing

If I play abandoned, I always pray that I get ride the bus

[midnight timber]

i don't have that one

yet

Balatro

My Hands

[rocky tiger]

What deck should i gold stake next

I have purple stake unlocked on green deck thats rly it

[marsh dove]

What was your first again

[rocky tiger]

Zodiac

I love overstock

[marsh dove]

I like ghost

[rocky tiger]

Fair enough

Needs good early rng tho

[manic talon]

Just get black deck over with so you can have fun

[marsh dove]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[rocky tiger]

I think id rather kms

[manic talon]

You gotta get to it at some point

[rocky tiger]

Barely beat black deck on white

[marsh dove]

I mean u kinda don’t

[rocky tiger]

What about erratic deck

Looks fun

Havent tried yet since i kinda did gold stake rly fast

[manic talon]

Erratic is fun, dont get too caught up on finding the best deck rolls

[rocky tiger]

I figured yeah

[manic talon]

Its always almost great for 3oak, and then you can pivot to 4oak or just stay

[rocky tiger]

Ever since i started trying my hardest to win no batter how bad ante 1 is i had a lot more fun i assume its the same kind of thing

[manic talon]

<@&1133519078540185692> anotha one

Or just play pairs, but thats also every deck, so the point is moot

[tacit oasis]

Best strategy for C++? I just won anaglyph twice back to back but never saw the damn negative skip

[rocky tiger]

Wow thats impressive and unlucky

[manic talon]

Play a good deck that you like, you'll win more games so you feel like chipping away at it consistently rather than losing on anaglpyh over and over and winning but not getting the skip so you wasted 7 double tags

C++ is more like a marathon than anything

[crystal skiff]

is it possible to get jokers from the shop ? or elsewhere than the soul

[midnight timber]

how to win the stake after red

[shell dagger]

if you mean legendary jokers then no, soul is the only way

[crystal skiff]

alr ty

[marsh dove]

24 tags
assuming ante 1 is ignored bc that gets no benefit from anaglyph
(23/24)^(7 antes * 2 runs * 2 blinds) = 30%

[gloomy swallow]

Another joker gold staked! (Marble Joker) 4 remain!

[marsh dove]

not that unlucky

[gloomy egret]

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[rugged bloom]

chat what does this mean "The first Soul card in a Gold seed will give a Legendary Joker that doesn't yet have a Gold Sticker, which will help with the Completionist++ achievement."

taken from the balatro wiki

[marsh dove]

gold sticker = you've won with it on gold stake

first soul in a seed when ur playing gold stake wont give one you already won with

[gloomy swallow]

Updated list, after this run, gold ticket sock n BUSKIN and oops all 6's have all been upped a tier

[marsh dove]

until you gold sticker all of them

[acoustic kettle]

If you already gold stickered canio for example the first soul in any gold stake run after that won't be canio

[rugged bloom]

oh so seeds will have different soul cards based on your stickers?

damn

[gloomy swallow]

until you gold sticked all legendary jokers

[rugged bloom]

that's honestly a good gimmick

[gloomy swallow]

only in the case of legendaries

yeah

[rugged bloom]

localthunk is very good at game design

why don't they make a video game

[gloomy swallow]

i wonder why

I'd like to play a game

a roguelite card game per say

[wary flicker]

yeah Ive went to listen to a lot of the interviews he did

Ive gone

silly me

and it just seems like he is so passionate about games

and design

[rugged bloom]

designing games for the fun of it not to earn money

[gloomy swallow]

I mean I wouldn't say he is perfect at game design but he does take a lot of feedback for only being one guy and he treats his game very well despite what others will say about the update

[rugged bloom]

i mean the money is also a big bonus

[wary flicker]

yeah having that balance

[rugged bloom]

but it's like a mom and pop restaurant

[wary flicker]

also with a guy like DrSpecter

[rugged bloom]

more value for your money

[wary flicker]

good guy for feedback

[rugged bloom]

do you mean Dr. John Balatro

[gloomy swallow]

Mail in Rebate should get nerfed on god

[wary flicker]

isnt that a meme account

[gloomy swallow]

bump it down to 4$

[wary flicker]

yeah Im sure they know

[rugged bloom]

mail in rebate so goated

[wary flicker]

it cant be same amount as faceless lol

[gloomy swallow]

On GOD

faceless is balanced

[rugged bloom]

keep it as is imo 🙏

[wary flicker]

nah

[gloomy swallow]

mail in Rebate is just superior in every aspect

[wary flicker]

its way too powerful

its like the best early joker

[gloomy swallow]

Faceless??

[rugged bloom]

in a pve you can still have things that are very good

[wary flicker]

Mail In Rebate

Faceless is okay

its good w pareidolia

[gloomy swallow]

well this is one hell of a start

[rugged bloom]

i recently found out that Dr. Spectered has an actual math Ph.D.

which honestly makes a lot of sense

[wary flicker]

holy

what a dui

[tacit oasis]

Also one of the runs had the -1 ante voucher, which I didn’t take, and wouldn’t have mattered as there was also no negative skip on ante 9.

[wary flicker]

yeah it does

[deft swan]

I HATE THE PLANT

[wary flicker]

the way he analytically thinks about the game

[rugged bloom]

he was a beta tester right

[wary flicker]

im certain he was yh

[rugged bloom]

which is the only context in which he'll ever be referred to as a beta

[tacit oasis]

And was also a teacher which makes a lot of sense

[shell dagger]

rebate full revert

[rugged bloom]

very patient

[wary flicker]

the 6hour long stream where he ranks all jokers is fun

[rugged bloom]

given how the state of education is, i wouldn't be surprised if he earns more than them now

[shell dagger]

chat how does random matrix theory help me beat gold stake

[acoustic kettle]

Erm

[tacit oasis]

anaglyph double tag ante 1 double skip

gambol time

[cloud sinew]

uhhh optimal control theory

[shell dagger]

time to put my bloodstone hits in a matrix and find its eigenvalues

[molten thicket]

reroll the dice until you get enough bloodstone hits

[raw whale]

IT'S CALLING TO ME

WHY ON BLACK DECK

[steel crag]

fellas i need help

is there anyway to save this

[shell dagger]

No

[steel crag]

damn its joe over then

[marsh dove]

who needs flat mult anyway

[tender bone]

whats the easiest way to get money so u can reroll and find the jokers youre missing

[marsh dove]

theres no general advice for that

you take what you can get

[tender bone]

I mean from collection

[raw whale]

yall my econ might be dead but i have some jokers

[tender bone]

I had 400$ and a stone card and i didnt find the stone joker once

[marsh dove]

again no general advice

[marsh dove]

and one that offers immediate strength

godspeed

[tender bone]

u can get every single joker in erratic deck right? It seems unbelievable how i didnt get it

[raw whale]

do i actually sell steven

[midnight timber]

....

[marsh dove]

400$ is really not a lot

in terms of rerolling and expecting to hit a joker its not

[tender bone]

really? damn

[marsh dove]

especially an uncommon

theres a lot of jokers man

[shell dagger]

sell baron

stuntman and baron do not pair well

[raw whale]

blasphemy

baron must stay

[marsh dove]

what planet are you on lmao

[tender bone]

yeah but 400 is big number and i had 4 slots 😭

[willow frost]

u can get every joker in every deck lol

[raw whale]

none i just got it

[shell dagger]

did you spend that $400 in one shop or spread out over a few shops

[tender bone]

spread out

[shell dagger]

how many shops

[tender bone]

uhghh i dont remember like 2 antes?

[willow frost]

so what like 78xhowever many shop slots you had

[tender bone]

4

tbf i had the voucher that 2x the chance for tarrot but still

[willow frost]

and given uncommon contains the most jokers, its not unreasonable to say you didnt find it in 312 cards lol

yeah ok with tarot voucher its over lol

[tender bone]

yeah youre probably right

[marsh dove]

they did not see nearly 312 cards

[willow frost]

uncommons are annoying

[tender bone]

ive just seen many clips of people finding bps for fun 🙁

[marsh dove]

400$ in rerolls is not that many even spread out over 4 rounds

[willow frost]

streamer luck

[willow frost]

i assumed it was over 6

cos they said 2 antes

[tender bone]

it was 6

idk why he said 4 rounds

[marsh dove]

i was assuming 4 bc they said 4 here

weird

[willow frost]

thats for shop slots

[tender bone]

no it was the amouint of slots i had

[marsh dove]

oh im dumb nvm

[willow frost]

honestly my maths is still an overestimation just to be safe

but you know, point is uncommons suck to find

[marsh dove]

did you have any reroll vouchers?

[tender bone]

only the first one that -2

[shell dagger]

about a 42% you didn’t get stone joker without the tarot merchant

not unreasonable

[tender bone]

damn it really seemed more likely

i just rerolled a seed till i found a good one with like 10 aces so i can speedrun throughj rounds and get it

[hardy fable]

ew math

[hollow ether]

It was unstickered, I was going for C++

[silk panther]

i had to reroll 6k$ for a single bean during my a39 run

[bleak blaze]

Man 6th Sense is fun to have around if you're strong enough

[bleak blaze]

I got 3 cryptids over a run and used them all on 6's which fed my hologram

[silk panther]

and it only lasted 2 antes since i had to replace him for Merry Andy

[bleak blaze]

Bc familiar, incantation, and grim yk

[trail pier]

cert + hologram is one of my favourite combos

[bleak blaze]

REAL SHIT TWIN

[trail pier]

cert is great on red deck too with all those discards + purple seals

[unreal iron]

cert is great anywhere

[bleak blaze]

Extra discards into purples for more deaths so you can death the purples

[unreal iron]

seals are just that busted

[bleak blaze]

[acoustic kettle]

Tru

[bleak blaze]

Steel Blue or Red Seals

[unreal iron]

all 4 seals

[acoustic kettle]

I'd rather have blue seal ngl

[bleak blaze]

^

[silk panther]

for normal runs blue for sure

[bleak blaze]

I love steel blues with a madness or constellation

[trail pier]

i think red seals are the weakest for normal runs tbh

blue + purple are goated

[acoustic kettle]

Ye

[trail pier]

blue and purple are like equally busted i think

[bleak blaze]

Doesn't stop me from spamming red seal lucky cards because nothing compares to that $20 hit you get

[marsh dove]

with spending 63$ a shop, roughly 400$ over 2 antes, you see 60 rolls of the shop
4 cards each, 240 cards
of those 240, 143 are expected to be jokers
of those 143, 36 are expected to be uncommon
64 uncommon jokers, so 57% chance you dont see stone joker

[acoustic kettle]

I'd give the edge to blue seal

[marsh dove]

so its actually more likely than not you dont see stone joker in that amount of rolls

[acoustic kettle]

Though they are really close

[bleak blaze]

When I hear that cash sound effect its pure dopamine

[trail pier]

blue seals + pairs = easy win

[bleak blaze]

Thats the sauce

[acoustic kettle]

Well tbf anything + pairs like 90% of the time is easy win

[trail pier]

yea

like 90% of my gold stake runs are pair builds because most of the time its just the best thing you can be doing

[bleak blaze]

"FLUSHES ARE BETTER THAN PAIRS BECAUSE YOU CAN PLAY 5 CARDS"

[acoustic kettle]

Said no one ever

[bleak blaze]

Only if you dont play anything above black stake

[trail pier]

the only reason i played mostly flushes on my last run was because i couldn't find any mercury but i found a ton of jupiters lmao

[acoustic kettle]

Tbh i play more bigger hands pre blue stake

Playing pairs on white stake just feels too sweaty

[trail pier]

i hardly play white stake tbh

[raw whale]

what in the actual hell

[vocal rose]

they arent

blue is way more busted

[trail pier]

yeah now that i actually think about it thats correct

[vocal rose]

purple is still very good but it actually feels balanced

trance is just boring

its almost an immediate win

that and rebate

[trail pier]

rebate is absurdly op for a common joker

[vocal rose]

its absurdly op for a joker

[acoustic kettle]

Absurdly op for a joker

[vocal rose]

you can make it legendary and it's still unbalanced

[steel crag]

fellas im new to the game only beenplayin it for two weeks i gotta ask how do i aqquire legendary jokers excatly

[paper night]

best thing about rebate is that i can abuse its common rarity while waiting

[acoustic kettle]

Rebate can be eternal perishable rental and i'll still take it

[paper night]

gamble

[acoustic kettle]

It is rare

Pure gamble

[vocal rose]

0.3% chance of showing up in arcana and spectral packs

[steel crag]

ive been doing nothin but that though

[acoustic kettle]

In arcana packs and spectral packs there are a small chance for soul to appear

[trail pier]

you can get them from soul cards in arcana and spectrals

[marsh dove]

per card

[paper night]

pull out your 0.3% per card chance and start unlocking "pokemon" packs

[steel crag]

so i dont need to do anything its just chance ?

[vocal rose]

yes

[acoustic kettle]

Ye

[paper night]

u do need to so smth
get the money to gamble

[acoustic kettle]

Well open arcana and spectral packs

But ye

[vocal rose]

GAME STOP GIVING ME FREE WINS

[steel crag]

ive been lovin the blueprint lately but i like the sock and buskin to whats yall favorite

[vocal rose]

ancient joker

[paper night]

controversial opinion but i like obelisk

[tender bone]

free win?

[vocal rose]

foiled supernova

[acoustic kettle]

It is a free win

[barren wigeon]

no theyre legendary

[tender bone]

yeah but why is it a free win? iim not trying to prove u wrong im just bad

[vocal rose]

and telescope

[vocal rose]

because of how good scaling jokers are

[silk panther]

you spam high card and you win

[acoustic kettle]

Supernova is great scaling jomer

Joker

[vocal rose]

pairs*

[round valley]

Uh

[steel crag]

yeah the art on that one if its a negative is sick

[silk panther]

doesnt matter

[round valley]

What do I do

[barren wigeon]

dont take it.

[vocal rose]

it does matter

pairs are better

[round valley]

Ok

[tender bone]

but if u get both rn you wont have money for interest

[barren wigeon]

photo is almost always bait

[acoustic kettle]

Do you need money if you just win

No right

[silk panther]

it really doesnt you win either way

[vocal rose]

I can live solely off s nova and get that money back

[paper night]

fun fact: it used to be mr bones
and/or throwback (they both still land in top 3)

[tender bone]

yeah youre kinda right

[acoustic kettle]

Eye next ante

[round valley]

Oh nice I got the happy face next shop!

Do o replace abstract with that?

I mean.. to be fair abstract is +21 right now

Wait no

+18

[vocal rose]

alright

[acoustic kettle]

Go broke

[vocal rose]

yep thats what im doing

[acoustic kettle]

Or yk

Sell the vaga and get money

Wait that sounds bad

Better

[calm furnace]

if you gonna go HC build

nova and vaga will work

nicely

[vocal rose]

im doing pairs

[calm furnace]

you can do that too

tho for an entire pairs/hc build

i dont see the value of vagabond

vaga shines best when you wanna do the freaky builds

[vocal rose]

no vagabond shines best especially on pair/hc builds

[calm furnace]

vaga is probably the only effective way to ever getting idol online before ante 8

[vocal rose]

since you arent one tapping bosses as you're TYPICALLY scaling jokers

which means you can easily get vagabond value for every hand

whilst making enough money from the tarot cards given to actually just hit interest cap after you win the round

from devils/magic cards

[calm furnace]

yeah

[round valley]

So I uhhhh got wee joker

What do I do

😭

[acoustic kettle]

The real way is to get mega spectral with sigil and ouija in them every shop

[calm furnace]

but usually i dont take vaga if im not building for something like staright flush, flush five etc...

[acoustic kettle]

Play 2s

[vocal rose]

you do what wee joker wants you to do

[round valley]

I have been

[vocal rose]

play 2s

[round valley]

Idk what joker to replace with wee joker

[calm furnace]

can also hold on ouija and dump it on a serpant

[vocal rose]

then you arent seeing the value of one of the best tarot generators

[shell dagger]

vagabond pairs maybe but vagabond supernova isn’t ideal

tendency to overscore

u ofc still take it but

[round valley]

What do I do here

[vocal rose]

got back up to this in one round

I was at 2 dollars

[calm furnace]

Wiff Waff!!

[vocal rose]

riff also gave me foiled raised fist lol

[calm furnace]

least useful riff raff pull

[paper night]

get arrowhead out if u want wee

[round valley]

Alrighty then

I do have a couple of uhhhh red seal 2s

[calm furnace]

imagine if perkeo worked like riff raff but for uncommons

[acoustic kettle]

Perkeo but copies jokers

[vocal rose]

and doesn't get rid of negative

[trim notch]

When u need 8ball it isnt appearing smh

[olive locust]

Sb please kill plant

[calm furnace]

glass 8ball woould be hella painful

[trim notch]

riff raff should spawn common jokers like his enhanced? Idk hoe to sah it