🕹・game-discussion

[unborn cliff]

what's a blocked word

[heavy heron]

fair enough, most people don’t want that

[pine plinth]

thats a ... um... volcanic eruption

a 'silly sausage spurt'

buddy

[heavy heron]

mmmmm is that the same thing? are we sure?

[hard mantle]

madness is the best joker in babababababatro

[unborn cliff]

????????¿?!¿¿

[woven spire]

it’s loyalty card

[queen dock]

Oh I forgot to eat the ammo from my gun that I ate earlier

[unborn cliff]

blueprint is actually the best joker in balatro because it can copy the 2nd best joker

[hard mantle]

im ride or die with madness. if it deletes a joker i clearly didnt need that joker anyway

[heavy heron]

also, i would

just saying

[unborn cliff]

and every other joke

[pine plinth]

you're a freak for that

[unborn cliff]

r

dude do people not groan during massages

[heavy heron]

make sure they know they’re doing a good job!

[unborn cliff]

like even a little bit

[pine plinth]

people sometimes groan during massages

[heavy heron]

nothing wrong w people doing extra verbal communication

[pine plinth]

people dont throw their head back screaming

from massages

[heavy heron]

LOOLLLLL

[queen dock]

Gross.

[woven spire]

but the 2nd best joker can copy the best joker, wouldn’t that make it a tie

[pine plinth]

im trying to explain this concept dude

im like a wise sage

[hard mantle]

when one of my friends gave me a massage i unironically moaned during it. it's not really weird for humans to react in their own ways

[unborn cliff]

masseuse: not even touching me

"OUGHHHHHH MY BACKKK THAT FEELS SO NICEEE"

[pine plinth]

ur attracted to ur friend

[heavy heron]

it’s the thought that counts

[pine plinth]

obvious answer.

[heavy heron]

like the fact they’d massage me

so sweet

and kind

[unborn cliff]

versatility from blueprint makes it top 1

[hard mantle]

no our make out sessions were purely platonic i assure you

[pine plinth]

kk

see dude? my logic is flawless.

it always works.

[obsidian atlas]

dice for photo?

[pine plinth]

dice for photo.

[unborn cliff]

show deck

[woven spire]

yets.

[glass mountain]

bl*odstone?

[pine plinth]

one million percent die for photo dude.

[queen dock]

I almost elbowed someone into their neck after they attempted to give me a massage

[obsidian atlas]

3 steels and most are lucky faces

[pine plinth]

fun

[woven spire]

WITH Oops

[unborn cliff]

Take oops

[obsidian atlas]

aight ty

[obsidian atlas]

tysm

[lunar zealot]

Hi brainstorm!

[heavy heron]

listen the only time i really groan is when i find a luchador against verdant leaf

[lunar zealot]

Bye brainstorm!

[heavy heron]

o wait wrong clip

[pine plinth]

take brainstorm so much campfire potential dude

[heavy heron]

FUCK

THATS ME DYING TO LEAF

[pine plinth]

noooooo....

no dude... they took EVERYTHING! MY TREASURE!

:(

[unborn cliff]

fell for it again award

[heavy heron]

hehehehehehehe

[glass mountain]

also how tf do i draw 8 cards to unlock fish

[fallen arch]

used an emperor, this is the run of a lifetime

[woven spire]

why do u have an eternal even steven

[pine plinth]

bigger hand size.

[heavy heron]

5 eternals 😞

[unborn cliff]

somebody plundered it before I could

[pine plinth]

even steven

is goated

thats why.

[glass mountain]

minimum hand size and does it work on a seed (unlocking fish)

[heavy heron]

its like in life, you get stuck in one place for too long, you’ll die!

also because i had to survive

steven is the only reason i made it that far

[unborn cliff]

ragebait god

[heavy heron]

you try going into ante 2 big blind with no mult

[heavy heron]

you’ll take an eternal steven too

[lunar zealot]

I fucking love destroying brainstorms

[pine plinth]

if you unlock things with seeds you need to be lobotomized

[lunar zealot]

Green above nova

[unborn cliff]

bro hates thinking

[woven spire]

ig

[lunar zealot]

dagger above ft

[pine plinth]

dagger is s tier dude

[pine plinth]

why does nobody love dagger.

[heavy heron]

ahaha!!

[calm furnace]

wait i forgot erosion

[unborn cliff]

groker is literally better than bus

[heavy heron]

there we go!

[calm furnace]

nah not even close. nova can use blue seals and gold cards groker too limiting

[lunar zealot]

Grimbo above nova

[tardy spade]

discord, how come you say people are "frequent friends" who aren't even on my friends list

[lunar zealot]

nova dies to eye and cannot obelisk pivot

[latent egret]

id say bootstraps at least the same tier as purple guy

[pine plinth]

You don't know, do you...

[heavy heron]

i did not know frequent friends was a thing

[pine plinth]

'Friends' doesn't just mean 'friends'...

[tardy spade]

what

[pine plinth]

It also means...

[calm furnace]

fair enough

[heavy heron]

what

[latent egret]

cause damn purple is dookie

[pine plinth]

I can't say the word here.

[calm furnace]

absolutely not

[heavy heron]

say it

[pine plinth]

but Friends is a euphemism

no its blocked dude

[lunar zealot]

F IS FOR FRIENDS WHO DO STUFF TOGETHER

[pine plinth]

saying it will not owrk

[heavy heron]

mmmmmmmm

[lunar zealot]

U IS FOR U AND ME

[pine plinth]

no Friends is a euphemism for a slur dude

[lunar zealot]

N IS FOR NYWHERE AT ANY TIME AT ALL

[pine plinth]

it also starts with F

[lunar zealot]

DOWN HERE IN THE DEEP BLUE SEA

[calm furnace]

its just one of those common bad takes people have on the internet like hating red card and campfire

[pine plinth]

and it stands for very... friendly people

[atomic trout]

What will Invisible Joker become?

[lunar zealot]

bus

[pine plinth]

who get friendly with the people who are like them

[heavy heron]

i love friendly people!!!

[calm furnace]

fortune teller scales faster and for less money than boots btw

[atomic trout]

No Way

[pine plinth]

'friends' and 'f-'

[atomic trout]

Damn

[latent egret]

not really

[pine plinth]

are the same

[lunar zealot]

HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[heavy heron]

check your dm rq

[pine plinth]

campfire is goated dude

[latent egret]

cause red card and campfire are both great almost free wins

[tardy spade]

ok now you're just conspiring out of jimbo's finest packs

[calm furnace]

go check reddit or any roffle or drspecrered stream

people dont appreciate campfire and obelisk

[latent egret]

while fortuneteller is 6$ for no reason and scales real bad

[pine plinth]

no it isnt dude

this is a real thing

[calm furnace]

and they dont appreciate fortune teller either

[pine plinth]

'can win with great friends'

look it up

[quartz ember]

I'd still put ft and maybe Jj in C and erosion in B

[calm furnace]

it scales passively

[pine plinth]

'cant win with ___'

[calm furnace]

fortune teller has so many synergies

[quartz ember]

that is true

[calm furnace]

it goes insae with cartomancer, purle seals vagabond

goes amazing with vampire

on average you gonna be using more than 20+ tarots in a run and thats enough to put fortune teller at a respectable position

[latent egret]

great, when it is scaled i no longer need it because my deck is already fixed and i needed a mult scaler to survive before which will 90+% of the time be bigger than ft

[wintry ice]

reddit and youtube don't exist

[tardy spade]

terrible friends?

[calm furnace]

the downside of teller is being expensive

[lapis ice]

underrated combo

[calm furnace]

has no business being as expensive as some common jokers

[unborn cliff]

because it sucks I fear

[tardy spade]

overrated combo

[wintry ice]

more overrated by the majority of the community

[calm furnace]

it doesnt but its a very specific combo

and swash is better with gift card

egg is better for dagger

[unborn cliff]

ig bro

[wintry ice]

it's slower than most single mult scalers

[calm furnace]

it scales fine the issue is that its a specific combo that you have to hit

[unborn cliff]

squoker + groker combo better

[calm furnace]

its +3 per round which is almost as much as the best card does on average

[wintry ice]

yeah my point is that it's slow for 2 joker slots

[calm furnace]

but its 2 jokers to do the job of one

and the econ of it is a gamble on finding temprance

[unborn cliff]

red card mogs as usual

[calm furnace]

tho swash + gift card is legit

like legit legit

i beat gold stake 3 times only using gift card and swash

[unborn cliff]

son.

[wintry ice]

gift swash sounds clunky

[calm furnace]

not really way better than egg, because it scales +5 if you have 5 jokers per ante which is insanely fast

and you can sell gift card for something else and swash wouldnt die

[obsidian atlas]

mime or no mime (deck doesnt have that much steels)

[wintry ice]

doesn't swash not count itself

[calm furnace]

swash egg swash is useless if you sell egg

swash + gift card you can get out gift card

[latent egret]

yes it doesn’t

[calm furnace]

my bad +4 but still

also gift card is a good joker on its own unlike egg which makes the combo better

makes holding on uselss tarots and planets worthwhile

[wintry ice]

egg is fine by itself

[unborn cliff]

1 mult better than swashegg

whatever bro

[frank grove]

yeah but you can sell it and keep most of the value from it in temperances and swash

[calm furnace]

yeah ignoring everything else the combo has lmao

[celest spade]

2 joker slots for +3 mult every round and temperance value

[wintry ice]

that's something you should already be doing to filter stuff when you have the opportunity

[calm furnace]

yeah and it makes it generate more money

so it makes something that is already good

better

[quartz ember]

problem is that your build needs to be ready by the time you are ready to start using gift card for score

[frank grove]

and holding like a random planet card can give you like 10 bucks randomly if you are low on cash from rentals or just rolled too deep and found something good

[calm furnace]

which is according to math

= good

[celest spade]

egg is a value generator so it’s not as bad as people say

[fervent wolf]

Stickered Seance AND Credit card in same run

[calm furnace]

its not bad, even perishable egg is sometimes worth taking

rental egg tho that i still havent found a use for

rental gift card is decent tho

[celest spade]

pick up eternal eggs 🔥 🔥 🔥

[unborn cliff]

temperance

[fervent wolf]

Nat negative Hallucination was my main deck fixer but I also had Trading card as well until Brainstorm

[tardy spade]

rental egg is a piggy bank

[unborn cliff]

rental egg is a 401k

[heavy heron]

that’s actually really good, ironically

[calm furnace]

so basically like rental gift card but worse

[heavy heron]

seriously

eternal eggs are goated

[tardy spade]

not as good as non-eternal eggs

[heavy heron]

ante 1 eternal egg and pray you find temperances

[heavy heron]

….probably

[celest spade]

if you have tarot generation at least

[heavy heron]

or just get lucky duh

[celest spade]

purple seals, cartomancer, etc

[calm furnace]

yeah egg is great to have with vagabond as a way to get out of it

[celest spade]

tarot generation gets you even more money

[heavy heron]

your 1 in 22 to find a temperance

[celest spade]

and mitigates the luck

[hallow zenith]

Peak run

[deep ferry]

what do yall suggest is a decent path for getting better and completing more of the game (not in terms of where to find tips but in terms of game progression)? My profile is a fresh one so I've been unlocking things one by one and earning achievements, right now at 80% of things discovered

I've won white stake on 4 base decks other than the black deck so far, and after winning on the black deck I would like to try my hand at stakes and eventually challenges as I keep going on the decks, I assume stuff like collecting achievements, unlocking specific jokers, and gathering stickers gets easier as you unlock more decks and stakes?

[hallow zenith]

Got cooked

[unborn cliff]

just get 12 jokers instead, idiot

[heavy heron]

well yea but you won’t always get the chance to find it

[heavy heron]

…yea

[calm furnace]

you know the best joker for temprance value?

chicot

[celest spade]

i mean you can say that for literally every non-booster-pack thing in the game

[heavy heron]

i would make the argument you find arcana packs way more consistently than chances for a purple seal in a standard pack

or a tarot joker

[celest spade]

still doesn’t mean you shouldn’t take purple seals or tarot jokers

[heavy heron]

yes tarot generation is good everybody knows that

but a lot of the times

your run is dead to not being able to find said jokers/seals

not “dead” per se

but heavily stuck

[calm furnace]

i mean if you are protorizing tarot packs over getting jokers you have bigger issues

[heavy heron]

like i’ve had so many seeds

[celest spade]

i think it’s more common than you think

[heavy heron]

where every single standard pack i opened

[lapis ice]

whats a base shop

[heavy heron]

doesn’t have a seal

[calm furnace]

you gamble on tarot packs when the econ allows it

[heavy heron]

its insane

[deep ferry]

without rerolling

[heavy heron]

i think you’re generalizing my statement

[calm furnace]

tarots not only generate value but sometimes give a direction for what builds to go for

[heavy heron]

we were talking about jokers in regards to tarot generation

not jokers

period

obv you always prioritize jokers

because who cares about tarots if you die

[calm furnace]

there are 3 that do that cartomancer, vagabond and hallucination and they are all good jokers to take

[minor portal]

those who tarot

[heavy heron]

ace straights?

[unborn cliff]

watch drspectred on YouTube and listen to things that the people with +'s in their names say

[heavy heron]

eight ball?

[calm furnace]

ah yeah forgot bout supernova and 8ball

[celest spade]

even worse jokers like 8-ball or superposition aren’t bad to pick up

[heavy heron]

superposition, not supernova

[calm furnace]

superpsoition is not bad

[unborn cliff]

splash

[calm furnace]

especially early pickup

early antes you wanna be shooting for the Ace straight

[deep ferry]

I'm already watching drspectred and will be watching more but I mean in terms of in-game progression as a form of practice, not in terms of gathering sporadic and general tips. the only thing I kinda know right now is that the blue deck, checkered deck, and abandoned deck are decent for practice

[calm furnace]

if i see it non rental first shop i take it

or 2nd shop

[celest spade]

1 tarot card per round assuming you can draw the straight, i guess i undervalue it

[calm furnace]

blue stake makes it worse

[unborn cliff]

honestly just playing the game and picking up why you're doing wrong is the best way

[calm furnace]

that -1 discard makes the hand harder to dig for

[celest spade]

i think doc picked up eternal superposition in one of his recent vids

it worked pretty well

[unborn cliff]

just play the game and stop doing things that kill you 👀👀

[ancient gyro]

what nonsense debate did I walk into

[unborn cliff]

idk

[deep ferry]

this makes a lot of sense

[celest spade]

how important is tarot generation

[deep ferry]

I have to just internalize proper intuition

[ancient gyro]

uh

[unborn cliff]

I'm such a good teacher

[ancient gyro]

its nice when it doesn't hinder my econ and scoring

[celest spade]

tarot generation is econ

[calm furnace]

and scoring (sometimes)

[unborn cliff]

vagabond is my favorite Econ joker

[ancient gyro]

its essentially trading general value generation for specific value generation

[celest spade]

i’ve yet to use vagabond tbh

4 tarot cards per round seems very powerful

[unborn cliff]

vagabond is super boring (to me) but he's SOOOOOOO GOODDDDD

[celest spade]

how is it boring? you risk being too low on money to not afford anything with the huge reward of tons of tarots

[ancient gyro]

makes runs too free

[unborn cliff]

I just don't like being poor

[ancient gyro]

boy howdy

allegedly

[unborn cliff]

even though he's great

[unborn cliff]

I just don't like it and I have to use my brain to get out of the Econ hole

[calm furnace]

thats why you grab the egg with vagabond

[unborn cliff]

I'm a balatro player I can't think

[unborn cliff]

synergy does not exit in my game

exist

[celest spade]

reroll down to $3 every time you use temperance

flash card stocks are UP

[unborn cliff]

I know how to play vagabond o just don't like it

I

[calm furnace]

nah with vagabond you go fortune teller

[celest spade]

oh trueee

rare fortune teller W?

[calm furnace]

i love vagabond its the key to break out of the pair hell in gold stake

[unborn cliff]

chaos the clown + flash card synergy

[celest spade]

had this once but i threw

[unborn cliff]

+2 mult per shop

log

[calm furnace]

flash card is just 🥀

[unborn cliff]

pog

[unborn cliff]

flash card scales faster than red card

don't pmo

[calm furnace]

nice bait

[celest spade]

$11 for 4 mult 😭

[unborn cliff]

Red card is max +6 mult per shop flash card is technically infinite

the numbers don't lie IDIOT

Red card is easier and cheaper

flash card gets bigger number

[calm furnace]

fortune teller can scale infintely if you get emperor into fool

[unborn cliff]

this is true

however good Econ is actually easier than sniping a 1 in like 15 several times in a row

[calm furnace]

few weeks ago someone tried to calculate how many hundred of hours it would take for a infinite loop of emperor -> fool

to naniinf with fortune teller

[unborn cliff]

several decades

[ancient gyro]

he's not wrong technically, Jj has a higher scaling ceiling since it's based on your econ

[calm furnace]

yeah probably can stress test all of logetic mouse models doing that

[celest spade]

what about naneinf with fool —> temperance w/ boot and bull?

[unborn cliff]

at least

[celest spade]

wouldn’t that be quicker?

[unborn cliff]

several decades

[celest spade]

or better yet campfire

[ancient gyro]

physically impossible to do

[calm furnace]

yeah but on the average run it wont

[wet osprey]

got my first e ever

[unborn cliff]

balatro players impossibly underestimate how big e308 is

[ancient gyro]

with the existence of econ jokers, the scaling enablers are there

[sand lily]

That joker lineup is a dream

[ancient gyro]

albeit performing worse in worse scenarios

the floor is lower

[unborn cliff]

photochad carry

[wet osprey]

ikr

[calm furnace]

yeah but at what cost. like past 50+ mult you dont need much more mult

and red card will get to 50+ faster and cheaper

[wet osprey]

i just got photo like 2 rounds prior lmao mime carried

[celest spade]

red card always the goat

[west python]

guys can any1 give tips for unlocking invisible and stunman jokers?

[unborn cliff]

photochad mogs 😂😂😂😂😂😂✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️

[ancient gyro]

faster is debatable

[calm furnace]

flash cart can clutch tho at times. not so long ago i found flash card at like mid ante 6 but i had both reroll vouchers and i managed to scale it enough to crush ante 8

[unborn cliff]

what about them

[celest spade]

that’s 2 jokers

[floral mural]

whats a joker combo that you love using and is a little less known

[celest spade]

assuming you can even find them

also you get destroyed by the plant

[floral mural]

god chad rough gem is so fun to optimize

[west python]

win a run with 4 jokers and get 100m score in 1 hand

[floral mural]

and is great money

[calm furnace]

assuming you had two indentical runs and you picked up red card and flash card at ante 2, red card will out scale

[ancient gyro]

glass joker, 6th sense

[ancient gyro]

depends

[unborn cliff]

have you heard of this synergy where you use photograph and hanging chad

[calm furnace]

5.5$ for 4+ mult

vs 4-8$ for 3 mult

[celest spade]

i think i’ve used photochad maybe like twice in all my runs

[unborn cliff]

folk.

[pale wolf]

im expecting a surprise aesthetic update again this month

mark my words

[celest spade]

oh your name is literally photochad that explains your behavior

[unborn cliff]

what y'all know about the pyramids

[unborn cliff]

yes

[calm furnace]

photochad hate is forced

[unborn cliff]

photochad isn't that good I'm not stupid

[ancient gyro]

assuming no other outside influence

[unborn cliff]

SUPER TRUTH NOVA

[pale wolf]

the pyramids were build using a reverse funnel technology the tools of the time couldn't replicate

[calm furnace]

assuming an average run that is.

[west python]

anybody?

[floral mural]

i said less known

[unborn cliff]

what about them

[celest spade]

how do you even unlock them again

[calm furnace]

best synergy is vampire + license

mark my word

[west python]

win a run with 4 jokers and score 100m in 1 hand

[pale wolf]

invis? play painted

lol

[celest spade]

oh the 4 jokers one is simple

[unborn cliff]

baron mime

[celest spade]

100m is slightly harder

[west python]

uh do negative jokers score for that challenge?

[pale wolf]

yea

[celest spade]

plasma is your go-to though you have to figure out when to transition from chips to Xmult

[pale wolf]

never have more than 4 jokers

[frosty galleon]

Hi there, new here. Currently in a game, quick question.

Is it safe to discard if you have 0 cards in deck?

[unborn cliff]

negative jokers still take up a slot they just also give +1 slot

[pale wolf]

no lol

[unborn cliff]

no you die

[pale wolf]

well, unless you aren't discarding all the cards in your hand

[frosty galleon]

Thanks got it!

I have cards to play but want to discard the rest

[ancient gyro]

of course red is better on earlier antes where econ and mult is of better value for its conversion. im saying its not an always better scenario which there are multiple options to pivot into a different mult scaler with a higher ceiling. the initial point is what comes faster to a certain point. Jj scales higher faster. red card scales enough earlier with less

[pale wolf]

you dont die from attempting to draw from an empty deck, you die from running out of cards entirely

you can win with your last played cards

[celest spade]

Jj needs a LOT of money tho

[calm furnace]

flash scales faster if you have the econ to push for it

i just wish flash scaled passively like fortune teller

[frosty galleon]

I got Yorick the legendary joker and want to discard as much as possible

[west python]

I kinda dumb, can you give example of how do I do ts

[celest spade]

$6 for red card is at most $16 while for Jj it’s $18 base

[calm furnace]

i would take passive +1 mult over +2 like it is now

[ancient gyro]

I don't want a retroactive jj

[unborn cliff]

this was my argument and I was shut down

[pale wolf]

retroactively would be

weird

[ancient gyro]

current Jj is fine if a little discouraging

perishable tag is now in the mix

[shell dagger]

money to mult ratio for jj is not a useful figure imo

[unborn cliff]

let's make jj +100 mult per reroll

[pale wolf]

flash card sucks because you need crazy economy for it to simply match other options

[shell dagger]

you’re gonna be rerolling regardless

[calm furnace]

early Jj struggles as the sole scoring joker unlike other jokers

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[ancient gyro]

that's fine

not all mult jokers need a universally pick up early

[calm furnace]

but in general in this game you want you +mult early and by ante 5 you switch to scaling xmult

[shell dagger]

late jj doesn’t struggle unlike bus and grimbo

[calm furnace]

yeah

[ancient gyro]

if given the opportunity

[pale wolf]

often dont need xmult until ante 7 or 8 tbh

[calm furnace]

past ante 4 Jj is easily the best scaling mult joker

[ancient gyro]

uhh

no

[celest spade]

plasma adds your chips and mult together, cuts it in half and multiplies them together, resulting in a much higher score. since chips and mult hold the same value, early game it’s easier to scale chips since for instance playing a straight there’s a joker that gives 100 chips and another that gives 15 mult. 100 points of value is worth more than 15, so you use that early on. late game though you want more mult as due to X mult, your mult can become higher than your chips, making it better

[pale wolf]

there's still every retroactive joker

supernova, even purple joker

[unborn cliff]

obelisk is best to get at 4-6

[ancient gyro]

and also pants a4

[celest spade]

a good way to boost x mult together achieve stupid high scores is baron + mime

[pale wolf]

oh duh pants

[unborn cliff]

obelisk hologram constellation yorick

[celest spade]

you need to find them first

[ancient gyro]

erosion

[pale wolf]

pants is always better than flash card

[unborn cliff]

grimbo

[ancient gyro]

technically

[unborn cliff]

bus

[ancient gyro]

oh

[celest spade]

bus is good

[calm furnace]

consistenly the cheapest source of +mult

[pale wolf]

unless its ante 8 boss shop and you have 1000 dollars

[unborn cliff]

red card

[floral mural]

this runs fun but kinda dumb

[lapis ice]

guys how do i save this

[floral mural]

i passed the mark with fucking deduction last ante

[calm furnace]

oh hey mark

[floral mural]

"i know these 2 are kings so if something goes to their left its my 3 of a kind"

[shell dagger]

akqt9 is a straight

nvm you have zero straight levels

[west python]

thanks! will try to get it today, i hope ill get combo of wee joker,handing chad and smh for high mult

[celest spade]

they got 0 levels at all

[shell dagger]

it’s still the best hand

with dusk and photo you might be okay

[celest spade]

yeah

[lapis ice]

i trust

[shell dagger]

and the steel

[calm furnace]

that ace is +8 mult no with dusk

[ancient gyro]

pants is a dollar for 2 mult, Jj is five times that amount (+1), still better in mid game

[lapis ice]

made it

[sand lily]

I added some more

[unborn cliff]

pair of queens is your best hand

[calm furnace]

yeah mid=late game i rather have Jj

[calm furnace]

baron is top right

[frosty galleon]

I have 2 cards left. is it safe to discard 2 cards?

[violet bear]

always play pairs, no matter how many leads the game gives you

[celest spade]

yeah, just don’t discard everything

[west python]

Gng ts shop sooo tuff but I'm broke
What do I do

[ancient gyro]

its still pants on average

[shell dagger]

buy hone and go next

[unborn cliff]

take the free blueprint in place of chad

[ancient gyro]

and in worst case

[west python]

who i should blue print then 🤔

[calm furnace]

yeah but like you said earlier, JJ with econ can scale as much as you want therefor for me its better than pants in that scenario

[violet bear]

looks like i'm liberitarian leftmaxxing

[unborn cliff]

red card or jj depending on which is more mult

[floral mural]

FINAL STICKER OBTAINED

hehe

[west python]

card 6 mult flash card 4 mult rn
im lwk broke to buy packs or reroll

[ancient gyro]

pants is acceptable in more mid game scenarios than Jj which requires a pristine econ layout

[west python]

do i take hone tho?

[ancient gyro]

more things have to go right prior to its appearance

[ancient gyro]

peep the stat page

[unborn cliff]

bro

[naive cove]

Ok so how do you beat the double or nothing challenge run?

[west python]

ik that im a bum okay 😭

[floral mural]

smiley face and jupiter are from early runs lol

[unborn cliff]

put it all on black

[floral mural]

very early ones

[ancient gyro]

woah

[naive cove]

As in, use all my spades and clubs first?

[shell dagger]

because you’ve skipped at least 3 times that’s why

[unborn cliff]

no like roulette

[unborn cliff]

roulette

[naive cove]

You’re very helpful

[unborn cliff]

you're welcome

I'm always available for balatro help except for when I'm not

[sand lily]

black deck gold stake got me feeling like

[ancient gyro]

has two jokers that scale based on seeing shops

proceeds to skip the shops

[unborn cliff]

ig

[naive cove]

I just beat that to get completionist+ yesterday. Fuck black deck.

[west python]

😭

[ancient gyro]

a little self evaluation never hurt nobody

[west python]

fair enough

[wet osprey]

not gonna tolerate black deck slander

[west python]

i js cant get my brain into using high card as main hand

[ancient gyro]

2 ish months in atp im just too lazy to sweat the decision optimizing

[west python]

or doing smh good atleast 🙏

[ancient gyro]

why hc 😐

[shell dagger]

You don’t need to think like that

If you get jokers that pair well with high card, play high card

[west python]

i just dunno what to do

[shell dagger]

Well you were given a 2 pair joker early on

Im guessing

[west python]

im playing with full house rn

[solemn tide]

I dont like ride the bus

[twin lantern]

I just wanna play the tro, bro.

[lapis ice]

i suck

[west python]

dang it lost

run with 4 jokers lwk hard

[naive cove]

Ride the bus is insanely good though

[hasty harness]

congrats :p

[ancient gyro]

fr

[west python]

how 😭

[jolly relic]

is there really any purpose to have all your cards the same suit for baron mime?

i may have like smth super awesome and im just wondering if i can just leave the suits different so i cant die to any blind that blocks suits

[pseudo forum]

Do i take the pivot or play for funsies

[pseudo forum]

If you already beat one of the suit bosses make them all that suit cus it wont come back

[jolly relic]

in endless it can come back though right

[lost vault]

pivot?

just sell chad

[shell dagger]

yippee

[runic sequoia]

Okay this has to be some kind of record

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/897676548784672781/1456126012780712016/image.png?ex=695fcc46&is=695e7ac6&hm=9538e75616777c74355ba798009f4782e99ecf77fae7dcdd14b47b385e1e7337&

$92 at the end of round 3

[potent tree]

honestly that doesn't sound too farfetch'd

forgive my pokemon reference

[heavy heron]

well… that sucks…

[pseudo forum]

If you played every boss or reroll yes

[lost vault]

me bones clutch

mr

not me

[pseudo forum]

But atp you can just reroll then

[wary willow]

Who do I sell (Invisi is active)

Is it droll?

Its droll isnt it

nvm

YAY DOUBLE PHOTO

[steady vale]

What's the optimal blueprint placement? I don't have red seals on kings

[jolly relic]

this is actually so crazy

[pseudo forum]

Copy photo

[naive cove]

Wouldn’t the best way to get stickers be to play anaglyph and pop your double tag on a free negative skip?

[jolly relic]

so like how many cryptids do i need to get the biggest number of all

[pseudo forum]

What is droll even doing in this 😭

[jolly relic]

not on plasma deck

[pseudo forum]

With baron mime its like a hundred something

Red seal steel ofc

[steady vale]

I'm not that good at the game, baron isn't worth picking up here right? I have 11 kings in deck, no red seals

[pseudo forum]

Check buffoon packs for mime just in case

But probably not no

[steady vale]

no mime

[shell dagger]

you need 1750 triggers of 1.5x, the number of cryptids depends on your hand levels and how may copy jokers you have

[pseudo forum]

U can replace smiley for fun if youre not trying to play too optimally but other than that no need

Never know you might find mime

[steady vale]

Alright, ill ignore it

Thanks

rolled the shop, got dna wtf is going on here

[jolly relic]

what

can i take a 2nd ecto with 2 brainstorms and a dna for baron mime

and some cryptids if i need them

[wary willow]

Can I finally beat purple stake

[jolly relic]

🎃

do i take it 🦔

[lost vault]

no.

i forbid it

[lost vault]

inly one crypid?

[wary willow]

gulp

[lost vault]

why

anyway

i’d take just

sell rebate first maybe?

[jolly relic]

yes

my deck was a mess

[lost vault]

fair

[jolly relic]

okay

thankyiu

[wary willow]

Uhh

What do I do

[jolly relic]

skip

[lost vault]

uwu

[jolly relic]

oh actually

ermm

[lost vault]

maybe take over vloodshit if ur deck is uniform

as jn

has roughly the same anount of every sui

t

[wary willow]

Sell smeared and stone?

[jolly relic]

i just automatically imagined an oops was there cause bloodstone

[lost vault]

hmmmh

[wary willow]

We work Hard for our Mults

[lost vault]

wait

[jolly relic]

okay so i now have an invisible

[lost vault]

why would u sell both

??

[wary willow]

Wait I meant only stone

Srry

[lost vault]

u only need one slot for ancient

uh

um

[wary willow]

smeared my beloved

[lost vault]

ya sure

i’d sell bloodston

[wary willow]

alr you sure

[lost vault]

sure

ur gonna win anyway

aj is just more consistently strong

esp with shmeared

[jolly relic]

okay so like this MIGHT beat my best hand

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[jolly relic]

me except i love it

does it replace rebate !!

[lost vault]

mmmm

how many gold cards u got

[jolly relic]

ermm

like idk

[wary willow]

I lost holy i am washed

[jolly relic]

probably like 80% of my kings arw gold

theres only 9 steels

[lost vault]

WAT

[jolly relic]

and

theres 33 cards

[lost vault]

how do u even fumble ta

[jolly relic]

the others are gold

[lost vault]

ts

[wary willow]

The Mark...

I couldnt see

[lost vault]

peak

[wary willow]

The right cards

[lost vault]

i’d take bp then

[lost vault]

ah

[jolly relic]

okayy

[lost vault]

the guy from invincible

[wary willow]

The title card

[lost vault]

:3

[jolly relic]

yay so invisible hit blueprint

so like

do i just get naneinf

and do i even need money anymore

all i rlly need is vouchers no?

maybe planets too i guess

[idle basin]

guys whats the best red deck seed

[lost vault]

maybe

u need lots of cryptids so remember to copy the perkolator

[jolly relic]

mhm

i have 18 now already

[lost vault]

idk how much u need on ghost

[jolly relic]

and i just got a hand size voucher

[lost vault]

are ur cards all gold red seal kinhs

or mostly

kings

[jolly relic]

now im copying steels with dna

[lost vault]

and whats ur handsize and pluto level

[lost vault]

fair

[jolly relic]

but its like half now

half steel

and half gold

[lost vault]

are they all red seal

[jolly relic]

yes

[neon mural]

After having the run before killed by Violet Vessel with Hiker in hand, next run I get gold sticker Pareidolia. 2 more to go

[lost vault]

pog

what ab

handsize

whats that

[jolly relic]

6

but like theres obviously a natural negative troubadour coming

and also the 2nd voucher

and i have dna so

its basically

11 rn? or

idk

ill check

[lost vault]

oka

um with dna

[jolly relic]

10

[idle basin]

guys

[lost vault]

ya

ok 10

[jolly relic]

and then ofc cryptids

[lost vault]

im just gonna ssume all steels for the final hand

[jolly relic]

i can use some if i need

[idle basin]

do you know a good seed for red deck im new and wanna get a good score

also could someone gimme tips

[gloomy swallow]

jolly good job

[gloomy swallow]

what 14/18 u talking abotu

[lost vault]

ror2 survivors

[gloomy swallow]

no idea

[lost vault]

ok so

no cryptids

u get roughly e21

each cryptid adds roughly e4 to that

so

um

i think u need 71

cuz i didnt account for pluto levels

.^.

[jolly relic]

high card is level 21 rn

[lost vault]

a

i might have miscounted the copiers oosp

[jolly relic]

wgat

[lost vault]

dw

im gonna recalculate

[jolly relic]

2 bluepint 2 brainstorms

[lost vault]

ya

so without any cryptids u should be getting around e31 right

[jolly relic]

umm

well

[unreal iron]

so whats left

[jolly relic]

im not even

at a point to be needing to rearrange my jokers

after dna

its only ante 11

[lost vault]

ya im just doing math

.^.

[pseudo forum]

Now this is quite the pickle

[lost vault]

according to my math u should get around e31 assuming perfect copies and all steel

[jolly relic]

okay

[lost vault]

perfect copie is just 3 mime 3 baron

[pseudo forum]

What to replace?

Kitty?

[lost vault]

yes?

oh u meant ingame

[pseudo forum]

😭

[lost vault]

how fat is your cat

[pseudo forum]

20x

Big boy

[lost vault]

i think to get naneinf you’d need 55 cryptids give or take

[woven spire]

any tips on econ with rentals? i just get one rental and become poor lol

[lost vault]

so with 5 perkeos thats 11 rounds

[unreal iron]

just stay over interest

[lost vault]

idk het an econ joker .^.

[unreal iron]

better yet just save up money and go next

[lost vault]

avoid rentals unless theyre rlly good or life saving

[woven spire]

Alr, thx!

[lost vault]

big back

idk

bloodstone probably givung more

but each of the retrigger jokers is only worth ~7.5x

[jolly relic]

thankyiu

[lost vault]

so maybe no dusk

[lost vault]

no prob :3

[safe moat]

When it comes to C++ am I trying to make specific jokers work or am I just playing for the jokers I don’t have because some of the ones I have left fit together

And rather making the jokers do the work I rely more on the cards?

Better way to put is it just normal gold stake runs with like an extra slot open for a new sticker or can I force certain builds

[wicked moat]

My strat is anaglyph deck and pray for negative tag

[cloud sinew]

don't go for builds that work for them, just try and keep a spot open for them and keep an eye out but otherwise play as normal

[lost vault]

hallo lilo

[safe moat]

That’s why I’ve been struggling so much I think

[cloud sinew]

haiii

[lost vault]

haai :3

[safe moat]

Should I play erratic for specific jokers though

Like the family and trio or jokers that score a specific card?

[cloud sinew]

no

[lost vault]

perchance

[cloud sinew]

unless anaglyph is the most fun for you

[lost vault]

play whatever deck you like

[wary zodiac]

please needle, leave me this one run

[lost vault]

.^^.

[safe moat]

Gay plasma will not be touched

[cloud sinew]

needle would be fine, you'd have 7 hands

[lost vault]

whys it gay qwq

[wary zodiac]

WAIT

[cloud sinew]

eye is what would most likely kill you

[wary zodiac]

nvm yeah

i forgot bungler adds after

[safe moat]

Plasma is the hardest one to play by far

[cloud sinew]

cause it likes plasma ofc, do you not know what gay means

[lost vault]

my badp

[lost vault]

err that dont make it gay

smh

[safe moat]

Is the voucher a take here?

[hasty harness]

no

u can decide if u want it next shop as well

and get interest rn

i dont think id take it next round tho but theres definitely no reason to take it rn

[safe moat]

Too late

I already took it after big blind

[jolly relic]

@lost vault i have 92 cryptids 🎃

should i use them all now @!

[lost vault]

peaak

i mean idk

[hasty harness]

i mean idk about you but typically i just run pairs or hc on gold stake but :p

[lost vault]

if u wanna :3

[jolly relic]

i actually could

[hasty harness]

if ur building towards bigger hands that extra discard will help a lot

[jolly relic]

also beat my best ante

and best round

[lost vault]

u can also try to go to 39 but idk what the math is there

basically idk how far u can make it

up to u rly

:3

[wary zodiac]

what the hell

bro just give me a scaling joker 😭

please

[hasty harness]

what i did was just build a build that can win with extra joker spots open

[wary zodiac]

i want my green joker

i want my square

[hasty harness]

or use good jokers i just didnt sticker before because they didnt fit my playstyle well

[wary zodiac]

this is a hilarious amount of hands tho

[hasty harness]

like tribe on a flush build etc

[terse vale]

holy peak

and trance

[jolly relic]

e33 with 3 gold cards

[unreal iron]

13 whole hands???

yo

[hasty harness]

when u get that scaling joker its gonna be peak

[wary zodiac]

it gets better

its a rebate but its rental

[unreal iron]

W!!!!!

grimbo

[safe moat]

Well I got a synergy

[wary zodiac]

and i have no discards

[unreal iron]

take grimbo

[wary zodiac]

nvm

[unreal iron]

please

[wary zodiac]

fuck you rebate

[wary zodiac]

obviously 😭

i love my grimbo

[terse vale]

yeah i’d have to take green joker

[wary zodiac]

next up i need square

[terse vale]

even if you had discards

[hasty harness]

sell the burglars to make use of rebate

😈

[wary zodiac]

bungler

[lost vault]

did i underestimate o.o

[hasty harness]

bungulator from arc raiders 😱

[jolly relic]

idk

[lost vault]

o well

[jolly relic]

is there any point in rerolling

besides planets

[lost vault]

uh

[hasty harness]

whats ur joker lineup

[lost vault]

not rly

[lost vault]

2 bp 2 bs baron mime perk dna

[ancient gyro]

zawg this is basically the start layout two runs ago 💔

[jolly relic]

perkeo mime dna baron 2 blueprint 2 brainstorm

[hasty harness]

then nah not really unless u get something like

[jolly relic]

oh 💥

[hasty harness]

nat negative trubidor

[lost vault]

hehehe

:3

[hasty harness]

or other useful nat negatives

[lost vault]

waow 1 cryptid

so op

[hasty harness]

😈

[lost vault]

nat negatives are rare as heck so like

idk

[hasty harness]

i wouldnt say rare

[lost vault]

maybe save the money for boss rerolls cuz plant still kills u

[hasty harness]

more like getting a actual useful one

is rare

[neon mural]

Hiker and Steel

[lost vault]

nat negative is 0.3%

😭

[hasty harness]

if u have the money to reroll you'll find it

[lost vault]

maybe like

1

but it womt be good

[wary zodiac]

natural negative bull from a judgement 😭 😭

[hasty harness]

i mean in my own experience ive done multiple ante 39 runs and get a lot

[heavy geyser]

Black deck gold stake done for a second time. A lot of retries though.

[wary zodiac]

wtf is this bullshit

[hasty harness]

never any useful tho

[jolly relic]

i get like some money each roundd.. 😨

[hasty harness]

other then a nat negative burglar

[wary zodiac]

game just wants me to win so badly

[hasty harness]

i mean im assuming u have a couple thousand at least

doesnt hurt to reroll a little

[lost vault]

idk ngl i dont play endless

[jolly relic]

i have 200 dollars rn 🥰

[lost vault]

i just happen to know how the math works

uwu

[hasty harness]

did u not do gold cards

[lost vault]

o yea

[jolly relic]

yes

i did

[lost vault]

steel

mostly

some gold

[unreal iron]

eaaasy

better than the order

[hasty harness]

u only need like full steel at a certain point

[lost vault]

but steel cuz its easier to naneinf with them

[lost vault]

okay but get this

[neon mural]

Ive had Hiker like 5 times in the past 2 days and either hit violet vessel or fumbled at the finish line

[lost vault]

she can get naneinf already

¯_(ツ)_/¯

so does it matter that much

i dont think

[hasty harness]

yes but if u want to get to ante 39 might as well actually have the money for rerolls

boss rerolls

[lost vault]

its better for boss rerolls

[jolly relic]

i was playing ghost deck with the aim to js copy a blueprint or smth with ankh at like ante 1 but now im getting naneinf 💥💥

[lost vault]

but yu dokt need more than 20 per ante for that

[pale wolf]

how many joker can you be

[hasty harness]

?

[lost vault]

worst case is plant rolls into whatever suit her kings are

[jolly relic]

i dont have retcon

[hasty harness]

oh no retcon?

[lost vault]

ah

[hasty harness]

dang i didnt know

[lost vault]

well

[hasty harness]

nvm lol

[lost vault]

ur still most likey good

getting those 2 specific blinds is unlikely

[hasty harness]

yeah atp u just gotta take 3 suit changers in every round and in the boss blind to be safe

[jolly relic]

which

[hasty harness]

if u reroll into that boss

anyway do yall like my build

[civic sand]

Ante 12 you are my biggest enemy

[hasty harness]

obelisk go brrrr

[civic sand]

Oh wait that was 13

Let's go i didnt die to 12

[pseudo forum]

Nanegginf

[wary zodiac]

aw ):

i might be able to take it

[hasty harness]

wee little egg 🥶

[wary zodiac]

i copy grimbo probably

[languid kite]

today I got a misprint keychain in the mail

[hasty harness]

grimbo wil carry

[jolly relic]

negative business card

[civic sand]

I used to hate obelisk but now everytime I find it I try to take it even if my most played hand is at like 6 or something

[nova mantle]

where did you bought that it looks so cool

[hasty harness]

lol

[civic sand]

Oh yeah also my greatest reroll ever

From the same game

[safe moat]

Is cards make scoring better than scoring comes from jokers

[civic sand]

Sometimes

[jolly relic]

my game is lagging 😔😔

[pine drum]

Pain

[safe moat]

Well in goldstake

[civic sand]

A hand full of glass cards with red seals will probably do more score than a photochad

[lost vault]

wee goated?

[tranquil steppe]

The painted gold streak is alive

[ancient gyro]

what even was the streak

[wary zodiac]

yeah I lived ❤️

52 highcard, 21 pair

is the bungler too much of a risk to pivot to obelisk

[jolly relic]

my best ante is 25..

hmm

[wary zodiac]

yeouch

[wary zodiac]

yuri 💜

[hasty harness]

i mean like

why not take it

u have a spare joker slot

[wary zodiac]

i could take another multiplicative joker

what if im forced into playing a high card and like

[hasty harness]

oh its eternal im blind

[wary zodiac]

now i have a paperweight

😭

[hasty harness]

yeah prob not then

[wary zodiac]

yeah, if it wasn't it would be a free pickup

[civic sand]

Whats the grimbo mult like

[wary zodiac]

its too risky, hologram next shop

[wary zodiac]

like 70 methinks

[jolly relic]

i fear my xbox will just explode once i do this naneinf hand

[lost vault]

obelisk in endless mode

[wary zodiac]

kablooey

[civic sand]

If you have reliable chips and mult with so much hands I'd probably take it

[wary zodiac]

i'll do a bit more consideration.,,