🕹・game-discussion

[fickle mesa]

you do not clone the spades the last thing u wanna do is copy a bunch of weak cards

[proven canopy]

Hate getting a first shop like this

[fickle mesa]

open up the buffoon pack?

or are you disappointed about not getting the fairly underwhelming pareidolia + sock and buskin combo

[proven canopy]

Why are you a bitch

Stop being passive aggressive to strangers on discord at 2:30 am

[fickle mesa]

is that passive aggressive? if so, my apologies, i didnt mean to come off that way

no need to start calling me a bitch though

[vocal rose]

you need another ecto and antimatter

[vocal rose]

why are you apologizing lmao

you did nothing

the other person is just weirdly aggressive

[night turret]

I didn’t but I lost anyway

[fickle mesa]

damn

[vocal rose]

you’re strange

do better

[fickle mesa]

yeah early xmult just isnt that strong on plasma without high base mult first

[night turret]

I got hologram, along with mail in, but not one single mult

[hardy fable]

dis you?

[night turret]

Literally amazing jokers, but nothing to support it

[vocal rose]

you likely don’t know what would give you that support

with mail and rebate you 100% had enough econ to scrounge something up

especially that early

chips dominant early game

for plasma

[night turret]

Oh yeah I forgot to mention, I got mail in rebate the 5th round

I had just got it, so it didn’t help me

[vocal rose]

still had 19 dollars to roll down for support

and im assuming your scoring didn’t tank massively

[night turret]

I love chips early game, but once again, nothing

[night turret]

Oh but you assume WRONG

[vocal rose]

there’s always something

[night turret]

I’ll just try again and again until I win purple stake

[fickle mesa]

learned responses

[night turret]

Trauma, I get that

I instinctively say it as well

[vocal rose]

uhm

@night turret

I found this

on the first shop

[heady narwhal]

roughly 1.5% chance i would guess

[vocal rose]

I checked out your run to see better where the error was

and

[night turret]

I fucked up BADLY btw, I slipped up and saw the Buffon pack and went towards it immediately

[vocal rose]

yeah

[heady narwhal]

oh it's a seeded run

[vocal rose]

someone else’s run they died on

was just checking for where their error was made

[night turret]

Are ya gonna try and get farther then me

[vocal rose]

and we’ve found it in 2 seconds

[vocal rose]

I don’t need to

[night turret]

Because it’s totally possible

[vocal rose]

I will 100% do that

[fickle mesa]

being a woman (esp a neurodivergent one) makes it really hard to actually get people to listen to u if u arent super nice abt it

[night turret]

And while your doing that, I’m going to go and try and beat this stupid purple stake

[vocal rose]

but value those scaling jokers

[night turret]

Yeah I just hate the damn straights

[vocal rose]

oh I meant that I don’t need to play it further since I’ll 100% get farther

[night turret]

It’s so hard to get one

[vocal rose]

and beat it

[heady narwhal]

implying fortune teller is good

[fickle mesa]

getting the runner + that ankh is almost a guaranteed win on plasma no

[vocal rose]

it’s soooo goood

[night turret]

Okay mf, we get it. You are amazing at balatro

[vocal rose]

im not

im shit at the game

[fickle mesa]

im not admittedly the most familliar w plasma

[vocal rose]

but you asked me what I was doing

[heady narwhal]

i don't like plasma deck

[vocal rose]

so I told you

[vocal rose]

runners niche is that you can find ONE straight per round

and the scaling is crazy good

[night turret]

My simplest mind loves it, I like big number be divided by evens

[night turret]

Haha not with my luck

[heady narwhal]

not only is it a lot harder than average, i feel like i can't use my intuition w/r/t roughly how many points i'll score

[night turret]

I’ll always be at least one off

[heady narwhal]

can't just say "50% more chips = 50% more points" or whatever

[fickle mesa]

i dont play plasma for the same reasons i dont do endless - this game has a lot of mechanics that work together in tandem and i dont like feeling like i can only interact with some of them

[heady narwhal]

green is a way more fun Bad Deck i think

[night turret]

I wish I could have modded decks like that guy on YT does

[vocal rose]

this seals the deal

[night turret]

But that means getting balatro on my shitty ass pc

[heady narwhal]

has the same "easy early game and brutal late game" thing except idk more fun

[vocal rose]

view your shops first before jumping into a buffoon pack

[night turret]

I would definitely buy it again, no doubt. But playing anything on a 14 yr old PC?! Oh it’s begging for death

[fickle mesa]

i mean tbf balatro has insanely low requirements

[night turret]

I wonder if your gonna run into something that ruins the run completely

[vocal rose]

bruh

[heady narwhal]

it's got like three whole shaders though

how am i gonna run it on my gameboy advance or whatever

[night turret]

I told you I had hologram

[solemn tide]

Any of you habitually skip the first round

just to get the goods..

[heady narwhal]

no

[fickle mesa]

no this is a really bad move

[solemn tide]

:C

but polychrome

[fickle mesa]

the first round is usually one of the most important rounds to play actually

[night turret]

Bad then yes, but now no

[fickle mesa]

effectively does nothing

[vocal rose]

no

[heady narwhal]

i like getting the goods ($2 or $3 of remaining hands money, shop 1 buffoon pack, possible interest)

[vocal rose]

but losing run?

[night turret]

Just to unlock speedrunner ngl

[vocal rose]

im good

[heady narwhal]

not the goods (polychrome joker next round (it's perishable rental))

[fickle mesa]

since you're skipping and therefore all the next rounds now have a scoring boost

[solemn tide]

I

[fickle mesa]

so at best its one for one and at worst it ends up on garbage you throw out

[solemn tide]

ive avoided doing it lately

but

Ive been losing a lot of runs ngl

[heady narwhal]

edition tags should say what joker they give & just create the joker immediately rather than doing it in the shop imo

[night turret]

Okay I gotta ask, who is your PFP and why are they so familiar?

[heady narwhal]

it'd make negative tag a hell of a lot better (and also it'd make people skip less, probably)

[fickle mesa]

my pfp is fanart of flora from winx club

[night turret]

I have a feeling I’ve seen them before

OH WINX CLUB

[night turret]

I used to watch it with my little cousins back then

[heady narwhal]

walkie talkie

[solemn tide]

I think the problem is

I'm not using tarots

or

spectual cards

[night turret]

Thats DEFINITELY the problem

[fickle mesa]

how do u get those cards? by seeing packs and shopping through not skipping

[night turret]

What the hell do you use then?

[solemn tide]

I'm not using them enough

lmao

[night turret]

Oh okay

[solemn tide]

mults, luck, and prayer

I do use them

[heady narwhal]

it's good for plasma because it helps you pivot (real)

[solemn tide]

just not enough

[night turret]

I though you just out right skip them

[solemn tide]

mmm

[fickle mesa]

usually the best tarots are death, hanged man, money and gold cards

as well as potentially fool

[solemn tide]

I just avoid them sometimes cuz im so focused on getting higher mults

[fickle mesa]

emporor is also pretty high expected value generally

[night turret]

Holy shit I clicked your PFP by accident and my god your banner is insane looking

I love it

[solemn tide]

Thank you :)

[fickle mesa]

additive mult sorta falls off once u have an adequate mult joker

even if its like a mystic summit or abstract joker

[night turret]

It’s called “maybe I get death here” but then you get the fool again

[solemn tide]

It's from picayune dreams btw

[night turret]

And then you in the endless loop

[night turret]

Game, series, or something else?

[solemn tide]

Yeah I realized that and after learning multiplicative mults are a thing I've done better

[solemn tide]

Bullet hell and bullet heaven game

its 5 bucks

[heady narwhal]

hermit, temperance, hanged man, death, fool, and emperor are pretty much everyone's top 6 tarots afaict

[solemn tide]

I also feel

[heady narwhal]

not in that order necessarily

[solemn tide]

I fail to see the value in various cards

Like not really thinking it thru

[heady narwhal]

but those are things that i'm picking by default if they're in an arcana pack

[fickle mesa]

not that mult cards cant be useful but they fall off the fastest of any other cards

[heady narwhal]

any cards in particular?

[fickle mesa]

i think i value devil more than emperor on average

although theyre pretty close

[heady narwhal]

which have you used more

in the stats

[solemn tide]

Im thinking chip cards

lemme see

[night turret]

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING

[heady narwhal]

the enhancement? bonus cards are imo the best scoring enhancement since chips are so hard to find

they can save your life in the early game

[night turret]

Not a single chip card in sight?

[heady narwhal]

steel and glass are cool and all but they take a long time to get online & aren't very applicable to builds with scaling +mult jokers

[solemn tide]

[night turret]

You obviously love mult huh

[fickle mesa]

i probabaly have used emperor more but i think 2 early devils matter so much more than 6 emperors in ante 5

[solemn tide]

mhm

[fickle mesa]

maybe 6 is a bit excessive

[solemn tide]

it doesn't feel that important

though

numbers like that

are definitely important.

[heady narwhal]

devil is amazing in the shop but it's not my favorite in arcana packs

emperor is pretty free in both cases

so even if devil is more conducive to winning runs i think i use emperor a lot more

[night turret]

And I lost instantly

May have used the wrong tarot card

[heady narwhal]

baron?

[fickle mesa]

its not too hard to see why

the baron in question:

[night turret]

Meant to send that

[heady narwhal]

what was the other option

[night turret]

An eternal

[heady narwhal]

an eternal what

[night turret]

Let me check what it was

[fickle mesa]

im always willing to take an early eternal if it means my scoring / econ will be taken care of quickly

even if said eternal is only useful for like 1 ante

[heady narwhal]

i love eternal half joker

[solemn tide]

I'm also tryna use more standard cards

[night turret]

Ride the bus

[fickle mesa]

standard packs are very powerful

[night turret]

In retrospect, might have been way better for early mult

[heady narwhal]

i mean it's plasma but i feel like that's still a hell of a lot better than baron

[solemn tide]

but bus fares are so expensive

[fickle mesa]

for getting stuff like blue seals and gold cards and gold seals and purple seals

[night turret]

I really need to work on not jumping the gun and think

[heady narwhal]

especially if you weren't going to sell baron immediately for interest

[foggy yew]

When ur scoring, the rule of thumb is trying to even out ur chips and mult in final score of a hand, that will maximize ur score.
IE.
50c x 100 m = 5000
But 75c x 75 m = 5675
And the higher base value, the higher difference will be.
So don't underestimate chips in ur runs

[heady narwhal]

i think it'd be good to use scaling jokers

red card and ride the bus and green joker are some of the best jokers in the game

also runner and square for chips

also the uncommon ones i guess

[night turret]

Got a new run, first shop
Eternal hanging Chad
Or Eternal Duo

I think hanging Chad is better, even if it’s eternal

[foggy yew]

I'd disagree on red card, using extra money and wasting packs for +3 mult seems to be not the greatest value

[heady narwhal]

idk about speculative eternal chad personally

[heady narwhal]

the trick is it's not wasting money

[night turret]

I mean I like using Chad in a lot of different builds

It’s gonna help me early on

[heady narwhal]

i'm buying every pack every shop (if above interest) anyways, and a lot of packs don't have anything good in em

celestials have a 2/3 chance to be useless, buffoon & standard packs are usually best to skip even w/o redcard, spectral & arcana packs are about 50/50

[night turret]

Alright I’m going for eternal Chad

See you guys when I fail once again

[heady narwhal]

if you buy 3 celestial packs with red card, chances are you get 1 level of your favorite hand and +6 mult

without red card you're paying the same amount for 1 level and none mult

(which is still worth it i think!)

[night turret]

I just got bloodstone in the next shop😭🫩

[heady narwhal]

cooked

imo redcard is the best scaling +mult in the game

[night turret]

I ain’t getting bloodstone

Unless I had a oops all 6 in the same shop

[fickle mesa]

red card just rewards u for doing stuff ud already be doing

[foggy yew]

So red card is good if ur already good with econ, which starts usually ante 3/4, then u can allow urself for buying more packs. Yet being halfway into run is quite too late for picking up scaling joker that can give u max +6 mult per blind

[fickle mesa]

ante 3 or 4? u can get ur econ settled by like ante 2 lol

[heady narwhal]

ante 3/4 is not halfway, and +6 mult per blind is faster than pretty much every other scaler

[night turret]

Wait I have a madness in the shop

[heady narwhal]

every time i pick up redcard i doubt it a bit towards the start and then in ante 8 it ends up at like +60 mult or more

[night turret]

If I buy it, does it not kill the hanging Chad but itself?

[heady narwhal]

just have to believe in it

[foggy yew]

I'm saying max, but u'll pick cards from packs anyway, so i'd rather make it roughly +3

[fickle mesa]

also what i like abt red card is that when red card is at its weakest and all ur packs have powerful things inside of them... it means all ur packs are good and you're probably winning anyways

[calm furnace]

arguably the best mult card in the game

especially that its a common

[foggy yew]

If u manage to get good econ jokers, which doesn't happen every run

[heady narwhal]

you can use red card with interest alone

[calm furnace]

all +mult need econ

[fickle mesa]

u can also start opening packs like

[heady narwhal]

besides, if you're opening all those packs you're likely to get some gold cards and gold seals and such

[calm furnace]

just because you are not paying upfront with ride the bus or green joker, you are actually paying $1 per 1mult

[fickle mesa]

when u have like 15 dollars in the bank even

id open a standard pack then

[heady narwhal]

i usually wait for $25 personally

[fickle mesa]

and then if it misses i get mult which matters a lot at this part of the run

[calm furnace]

there is a recent roffle heavy video where he picked an early pants and an ante or two later he picked red card and red card outscalled pants by ante 8

[calm furnace]

and hermit/temprance

[night turret]

HAHA MY DUMB STRAT WORKED

[fickle mesa]

okay i dont know abt that since roffle is terrible at using scaling jokers from what ive seen of him

[night turret]

Now only if odd Todd could spawn

[night turret]

Honestly I love just watching the game from him and looking at the edited down footage

[calm furnace]

i made this few days ago

[heady narwhal]

the only roffle video i've seen was where he got dagger to +80 mult all while complaining about how much it sucks ass

[calm furnace]

not the most all situations accurate

but its the average cost of 1 mult in dollars

[night turret]

It does suck ass

[fickle mesa]

its a good joker

[foggy yew]

Mby i'll give red card more shots, but whenever i was trying it, i felt insecure about my choices.

[heady narwhal]

compared to red card, sure. but scaling +mult is scaling +mult

you need it to win most of the time

[night turret]

Ehhh, imo it is scaling mult

[calm furnace]

dagger is aight

[night turret]

But not better then red card

[fickle mesa]

bootstraps is the 2nd worst scaling mult in the game and its like a c

[calm furnace]

its problem that to scale it you are basically playing on painted deck minus having the extra hand size

[calm furnace]

2nd worst? its factually the worst joker in the game

[night turret]

Oh I hated that joker when I first unlocked it

[night turret]

8ball exists

[calm furnace]

it needs like 50$ to be slightly better than banana or abstract

[fickle mesa]

its a better scaling mult than 8 ball

[heady narwhal]

i mean a lot of scalers lose steam midway through a run

[fickle mesa]

er

what

fortune teller

[calm furnace]

8ball is scaling now?

[calm furnace]

lmao no

[fickle mesa]

i read the word 8ball and it went to my words

[calm furnace]

fortune teller is a top grade joker

[night turret]

Oh you said worst joker in the game

[heady narwhal]

you can get dagger to +40 or so pretty quickly and then just stop scaling it and you'll be fine

[fickle mesa]

top grade lol

[night turret]

Not worse scaling, sorry brain a bit wonked out rn

[calm furnace]

its easy to scale it especiaally with rentals

but as i said before, having to play with one less joker makes it annoying

2 mult for 1 dollar (dagger killing rental) is crazy good value

[heady narwhal]

$16

[calm furnace]

huh?

[heady narwhal]

wait i thought you were talking about dagger lmao

sorry

[calm furnace]

nah im a dagger fan

all +mult jokers are good, even tho i dont have fun with grimbo

the only bad +mult joker is boots

[night turret]

Andddd lost the run due to my fat fingers hitting discard instead of play hand

Yippe

[heady narwhal]

the devious wily Zany Joker:

[heady narwhal]

pro tip: switch the positions of the buttons in the settings to prevent this kind of mistake! what could go wrong

[fickle mesa]

the thing abt boots is that even though its pretty crippling if u have decent econ it will in fact grow and fortune teller just doesnt

[calm furnace]

i wish flash card scaling +1 mult but scaled even without being in your hand

[fickle mesa]

theres a reason docspectre doesnt consider fortune teller to be scaling

[heady narwhal]

i don't like that

[calm furnace]

are you crazy? when you scale hologram or constellation or anything bootstrap scales down

[heady narwhal]

it'd usually be at +0 anyways because you don't start rerolling until pretty late

[calm furnace]

you use 20 tarots a run thats free +20 mult

[fickle mesa]

i mean u could argue that abt red card as well no

[calm furnace]

thats not counting free tarots from purple seal

[night turret]

Nah it’s just my fingers and the way I had my phone

[calm furnace]

red card scales fast enough that you can afford to open packs

[night turret]

I slipped up and caught my phone mid air and my hand hit discard instead

[calm furnace]

you are not skipping every pack with red card lol

+3 mult is enough per shop

[solemn tide]

they need to buff high card so that I just win when I chose high card

[fickle mesa]

i mean high card is pretty favored in the meta

[calm furnace]

are you playing balatro in a roller coster?

[heady narwhal]

they need to buff full house

[solemn tide]

its addictive

[fickle mesa]

its only drawback is being weaker than pairs

[calm furnace]

fr

why is earth not +3 mult

[foggy yew]

Choose pair then

[fickle mesa]

yeahhhhh, thats kinda how it is usually

[heady narwhal]

maybe nerf flush again while we're at it

+40 chips arrowhead

[solemn tide]

the cycle continues

[calm furnace]

make bloodstone 1/3

[fickle mesa]

pair is basically just polychrome high card with slightly less flexibility

[heady narwhal]

1.0.0: 1/3 chance for x2
1.0.1: 1/2 chance for x1.5
1.1.0: 1/1 chance for x1

[fickle mesa]

except kinda also more flexible sometimes

[wary zodiac]

what the fuck 😭

[calm furnace]

high card exists so you use obelisk

[wary zodiac]

this is the SECOND SEED I'VE FOUND TODAY THAT HAS TWO SOULS IN TWO ANTES 😭

[calm furnace]

CHIGOAT

[wary zodiac]

IT WAS THE GOAT!!!

[foggy yew]

Not rly, it doubles on value of enhanced cards

[wary zodiac]

this run is already won

[calm furnace]

LESS GOO GG

[wary zodiac]

john balatro is so sick of me struggling with the higher stakes

[calm furnace]

and has synergy jokers

[wary zodiac]

he just wants me to stop

[foggy yew]

Too

[heady narwhal]

new common joker concept: +2 mult for each card scored this round

[heady narwhal]

probably doesn't scale with retriggers i think

[fickle mesa]

ooooh

[foggy yew]

Make it "this game" and i love it

[fickle mesa]

i worry for u

[night turret]

I’m playing laying down, and it slipped from my two finger grip

Thankfully I didn’t hit my face with my phone, and it just instead discarded the hand

[junior sonnet]

a shitty clone on roblox

[foggy yew]

I'm ok, thanks. But the idea of a joker seems very valid

[calm furnace]

we need a legendary +mult joker

[night turret]

Every game has has its shitty clone on Roblox

[night turret]

I think someone made some for a mod, but it was just artwork and the explanation on it

[wary zodiac]

straight in the standard pack

[distant thunder]

i want to make a public apology to ancient joker

[acoustic kettle]

Almost a royal flush

It is with a smeared

[safe venture]

Discard until flush

[wary zodiac]

i unlocked gold stake!

[lost vault]

Skinkina (14/18)

[wary zodiac]

i needed two bullshit runs with multiple souls in the first few antes but

[lost vault]

formerly: grass

[wary zodiac]

literally back to back runs

[safe venture]

Chudcot

[molten thicket]

mythical standard pack

[safe venture]

Reset your run this instant

[wary zodiac]

he's the GOAT

[wary zodiac]

straight

[lost vault]

chudgoat

[wary zodiac]

i forgot to take a screenshot, but somehow the hologram was almost catching up with yorick

[safe venture]

Chicot glaze. I'm deep in enemy territory

[lost vault]

its a good joker uwu

nuzzles u

[wary zodiac]

yorick was on x17 and hologram was on ×9

[safe venture]

On everyone's soul he's the worst legendary

And We ALL living

[wary zodiac]

he turns winning runs into won runs

[lost vault]

tribouley is a little worse

[wary zodiac]

no more stress

[safe venture]

💔💔💔

[wary zodiac]

no more plant

chigoat solos plant

plus there's fun bugs with chicot and certain boss blinds

[safe venture]

So does luchador who does it way better

[lost vault]

chicot haters the same typa chatters to say the plant is unfair

[lost vault]

he LITERALLY DIES

in the processs

[safe venture]

Yes

[wary zodiac]

exactly

weak ass mf

[safe venture]

Atleast he's not a legendary

[lost vault]

chicot mandles lunchador

solos

[safe venture]

Chicot is NOT worth the rarity

[wary flicker]

chicot literally wins runs lol

[wary zodiac]

deadass

[wary flicker]

if you have a solid base chicot means youre gonna win

[lost vault]

more worth than perky

[wary zodiac]

yeah

[lost vault]

if u say perkeo best legendary then we can disregard ur opinion

[wary zodiac]

often on high stakes its kinda annoying to have a solid run and get fucked in the ass by a boss blind

chigoat just removes that

[safe venture]

He ain't that bad

[lost vault]

damn it

yea

[molten thicket]

what

[safe venture]

We all know canio is the best legendary

[wary zodiac]

its a lot more subtle than other legendaries, but its good

[lunar zealot]

hello friends

[west python]

is chicot THAT bad?

[molten thicket]

what is this perkeo hate

[lunar zealot]

yorick > canio > chicot > perkeo > triboulet

[lost vault]

gold stake meta is strange

[wary flicker]

perkeo highest potential

[lost vault]

no

[wary zodiac]

chicot is fire

[wary flicker]

think the best might lowkey be chicot cause

it does all the work for you lol¨

[lost vault]

potential doesnt matter that much
see idol

[molten thicket]

perkeo is just +$20/round

[west python]

i just see multiple people hate it

[lunar zealot]

source:

yorick is top 3 strongest jokers in the game

canio scales absurdly fast

[wary flicker]

yh fair

[lost vault]

or more

[wary flicker]

triboulet is easy af

[lost vault]

cuz tempu

[wary zodiac]

not gold stake but here you are

[lunar zealot]

chicot entirely eliminates one of balatro's main mechanics

[molten thicket]

yrah

[lunar zealot]

perkeo is great for econ and util

and triboulet is triboulet

[wary zodiac]

this is honestly a great run, but it looks so ass

[gloomy sentinel]

how many points are needed to beat ante 8 if i disable the violet vessel w a luchador? gold stake

[lost vault]

i lobe pairs!!!

[lunar zealot]

400k

[gloomy sentinel]

bet ty ty ty

[wary zodiac]

level one highcard and pair build 💜

[wary flicker]

why level one 💔

[lost vault]

fire ?

[wary zodiac]

no need to upgrade

[wary flicker]

also Skinkina whats the 14/18

am I dumb

[lost vault]

yes

[wary zodiac]

square joker handled all my chips throughout the run

[lost vault]

mo

[lunar zealot]

i assume challenges

[lost vault]

its

risk of rain 2 survivors

[wary flicker]

🙁

[wary zodiac]

green joker handled the base mult

[lost vault]

:3

[wary zodiac]

ramen and card sharp were the xmult

picture perfect run

[wary flicker]

card sharp my goat

[wary zodiac]

and then burglar as well

[lost vault]

are there 18 challenges i thought it was 20

[wary zodiac]

early burglar carried so hard

[wary flicker]

no its 20

[wary zodiac]

it lets you farm scaling jokers like green and square so well

[wary flicker]

tbh loyalty card works best with burglar

cause its just like a better acrobat

[lunar zealot]

they do different things

[wary flicker]

im aware

acrobat saves you last hand

loyalty card with burglar means one hand is guaranteed x4

its like the only time I ever used loyalty card

[lunar zealot]

oh my god my ass must be stupid

i skipped a dcut

on god

[wary flicker]

thought you were calling me stupid ngl

[lunar zealot]

on the bright side wheel hit

[wary flicker]

👍

[molten thicket]

this must be a gstake player's heaven

[wary flicker]

both toptier jokers and you have +mult

[molten thicket]

and xmult (ish)

[acoustic kettle]

Any player's heaven

[lunar zealot]

BHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAA

THANKS JUDGEMENT

KLJBSDJKBGFFDASBJKGFFSBRFBJKLADslnbjkjFLNJBWDDSFLNHGJKKDSG

[wary flicker]

bro what

[molten thicket]

wha

[wary flicker]

imagine id gives you

midas as well

[lunar zealot]

I CANT EVEN USE THIS DELGRAT

[wary flicker]

the synergy of all time DELGRAT and REBATE

[lunar zealot]

i can feed this vampire though

double rebate

[gloomy sentinel]

negative vampire looks so sick

[lunar zealot]

OH HI

[wary flicker]

I love negative mime

[tranquil steppe]

It’s a trap

[wary flicker]

ok Imma go play a game of Baltro

[acoustic kettle]

Negative castle

[wary flicker]

why

he can sell it if no good uncs

[lunar zealot]

first of all 'he'

second of all do you SEE my username rn

[wary flicker]

mb

she

[tranquil steppe]

Because you can’t get that many uncommons without more negatives

[gloomy sentinel]

negative banana is probably my favorite

[lunar zealot]

i am never selling bbc

[gloomy sentinel]

even though it's disappointing

it just looks incredible

[wary flicker]

2.25xmult still seems worth it tho

[molten thicket]

what ceremony did you do for such luck

[wary flicker]

also Cruiser said its a trap Kami not me

[molten thicket]

who did you sacrifice to the gods

[acoustic kettle]

Jimbo

[wary flicker]

blue stake 💔

[lunar zealot]

i could madness pivot ngl

but then i couldn't bbcmaxx

[cinder quail]

Chat I had a baron build the other day on gold stake

It was a good run :)

[wary flicker]

Holy start

[acoustic kettle]

If only there is a way to make jokers eternal

[gloomy sentinel]

would be a fun mechanic

[molten thicket]

yeah but madness means no bbc

[gloomy sentinel]

niche but fun

[lunar zealot]

smexy

[wary flicker]

me when I forget J high straight isnt enough for 300

[tranquil steppe]

Would be better if it was $67

[lunar zealot]

clip it and ship it baby

[simple jacinth]

https://m.youtube.com/clip/UgkxJlzbL3pclVYjdMv9Mm71ZBRhaK6LdrJJ?si=VR4ohreCycyc1Wdw

[distant thunder]

pretty good run for no copy joker

[stiff ore]

hell yeah first shop, thisll be good i hope

[lunar zealot]

proceeds to lose

[stiff ore]

yeah i fuckin hate this game sometimes, sometimes it just never wants to give me the hands i need

[deft sandal]

I played 5 lucky cards and it hits 3 money shots, without oops all sixes

Does certificate not hit face cards in abandoned deck?

[rain ice]

Anti 13 mobile still no cloud nine im getting sad man 🥺

[scenic siren]

thats so op

just combine it with ride the bus and pareidolia

[upper onyx]

had this shit by ante 4 completely unseeded

[upper onyx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1312993706701492256/1386913185172291666/da6de031-6b13-47e3-b051-ae01b5ad21dc.webp

[deft sandal]

I've completely given up on fixing my deck because of the certificate

[upper onyx]

there’s a 67 joker in the 1.1 update

trust me my dad works at localthunk

[deft sandal]

isn't localthunk just a one-man developer

[upper onyx]

yeah lmao

[deft sandal]

guess your dad is localthunk

[tranquil steppe]

Perfect

[upper onyx]

for every six and seven scored together x1.67 mult

[deft sandal]

I just reroll the shop 3 times and 3 photographs shows up back to back

and I'm on abandoned deck

Im scoring 500 million with this setup lmao

[tranquil steppe]

Double HoloCert is beautiful

[sinful meteor]

I think the game is trying to tell me something

[deft sandal]

with a 10x constellation

[tranquil steppe]

You’re cookin

[deft sandal]

somehow my deck is pretty good as drawing flush is pretty consistent

oh, and btw, level 67 flush

[upper onyx]

what is my luck today

ante 1 foil invis joker -> ante 2 blueprint

[fallow fog]

ate you still alive

[deft sandal]

welp gg

Lv 72 flush/ 11.3x Constellation/ Two around 9x Hologram

couldn't score to e11

this on orange stake is pretty good

[tacit oasis]

Only these 2 missing for C+. Existence is pain

[lunar zealot]

you don't need challenges for c+

[tacit oasis]

Wait really?

[tacit oasis]

Oh I need a white stake victory lap on mobile for it to count?

I heard it was a bug for C++

[lunar zealot]

the same is true for c+

[tacit oasis]

Ahhh well fuck the challenges then lmfao

[cloud sinew]

It's for every platform that has achievements

and it's C+ and C++ like Kami said :3

[lunar zealot]

from what i remember it's because the game does a check for the achievement before you win the run

oh my god i lose

[ocean lily]

I believe beating all challanges is also an achievement

[lunar zealot]

PLEASE give me cavendish immediately

PLEASE

LUCKY CARD PLEASE HIT

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

ok i'm over it

[latent egret]

burnt joker 4oak run was not on my bingo card

[formal abyss]

erratic?

idk how else that would be feasible otherwise

you could get lucky with hanged mans and a trading card ig

[hard mantle]

black stake time :3

[tacit oasis]

godspeed brother

I got gold stake black deck by just skipping the first antes for moneyh

playing regular was a pain with the money handicap

[hard mantle]

sister*

[verbal oak]

Feminine words don’t exist on the internet, sorry

[hard mantle]

my first pick was an eternal shoot the moon

[hard mantle]

WRONG

[latent egret]

PAINTEd

[hard mantle]

[tacit oasis]

everyone is a male american bot

[latent egret]

painted ouija to be precise

[tacit oasis]

gl sis

[acoustic kettle]

[hard mantle]

pair shoot the moon build ig

[calm furnace]

losing is a choice sometimes]

the factually strongest +mult joker and the factually strongest xmult joker in one run

and contrary to popular belief you can still scale planets with red card

[hard mantle]

im mildly scared

[calm furnace]

would you look at that

red card at +42 at ante 5 yet im buying mercury 🤔

[hard mantle]

this run prolly wont go anywhere but like

hey! if it do!

[calm furnace]

oh look hologram bad synergy nooo

chat am i cooked?

[hard mantle]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

[simple jacinth]

"go up to -$20 in debt"
is that a threat?

[simple jacinth]

gg

[tacit oasis]

eternal credit card is ballsy, I like it

[hard mantle]

why is this working why is this working why is this working why is this working why is this working

if i win because of holographic eternal madness ill make madness my pfp

[oak goblet]

Is Balatro ever gonna get another update?

[hard mantle]

the next update deletes baron

[quartz ember]

the chips are a bit scarce but if you get planets/alot of queens you might be good

[hard mantle]

yeah thats the play

[last geyser]

What’s the best strategy for black deck

[quartz ember]

most probably

[last geyser]

Ts got me stressing

[hard mantle]

i was kind of doing this all as like

"oh might as well just be crazy"

but the ballsy plays are WORKING

[quartz ember]

the one thats best for any deck

[hard mantle]

and i do have a few queens

[quartz ember]

just a little less consistant

[hard mantle]

ive been building for pairs since i got a nice pair card

[calm furnace]

on todays episode of myth busters

a red card scales more than 50 despite the user using the following bad synergies

• planet scaling with telescope BAD???
• hologram scaling with buying cards from planet cards CHAT HES COOKED???
• red card being a joker thats heavy on econ 😩 😩 😩
• campfire is a joker that is heavy on econ 🙀

[hard mantle]

all i need now is to get some steel queens in there

[calm furnace]

this is almost as scientific as it gets to being a research paper to factually show that red card is the best +mult joker in the game

[formal abyss]

ur winning that run

[calm furnace]

and it literally has 0 bad synergies it only has skill issues

only 28 pairs were harmed in this run

[hard mantle]

please rngesus dont make me win the run where i saw eternal madness and decided to go "eh fuck it"

so the play is to get into debt

[quartz ember]

uuuu nice

[quartz ember]

just hope for verdant leaf

[hard mantle]

HOW IS THIS WORKING

[calm furnace]

ox is so evil

🥀

[hard mantle]

honestly i might be able to win purely off jokers

[quartz ember]

if thats just one normal hand maybe actually

[hard mantle]

yeah, technically i dont get the steel king every hand but

[quartz ember]

well its hypothetical anyways since you can still scake with planets i guess

[hard mantle]

the ox got me out of debt :D

chat im on ante 8

AM I. GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE MADNESS MY FUCKING PFP

THIS FUCKING BASTAR

D

[calm furnace]

what a beautiful man

2nd most handsome man in human history

after chicot

[simple jacinth]

@hard mantle there's no way stm pairs with madness doesn't work

especially if you have sly

that right there is just a build

[hard mantle]

i wonder where half joker is

i won black stakes first try

i guess i have to find / make a good madness joker pfp

i guess we'll draw one

[slender creek]

i should stop playing balatro in class now i have 3 Fs and 2 Ds

[hard mantle]

perhaps

[hard mantle]

oh absolutely

amazing with pairs or high card

[opaque island]

please do, thats quite bad..

[frank cape]

wat to sell ( next boss is plant)

[wind bolt]

What hand are you playing?

Flush i guess?

[frank cape]

flushes

[wind bolt]

You can sell 5th joker

which gives you money if you discard a single card.

[formal abyss]

its deckfixing smh

id sell photo

[abstract rivet]

Ehh its late

Well

There is cani

[ancient gyro]

that's the canio scaler

[formal abyss]

but then again, what are your hand levels

[abstract rivet]

What x is canio and how many face left

[wind bolt]

And copy the canio

[frank cape]

i alr beat the boss

anywyas

[wind bolt]

Ez

[formal abyss]

what you sell

[wind bolt]

How

[abstract rivet]

Oh yeah i guess photograph doesn't do much if u destroy them all

[frank cape]

dont need photochad much

cost me 3 hands

[obsidian lotus]

Do I take sock or leave it?

[crimson forge]

Socks probably better long term

Was digging around in the code and found out if you have every rare joker and take the rare tag it actually nopes the tag. It's the only way to nope a tag so I had to see it for myself:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1147964925117988884/1458120181401256058/Discord_EvwyW2OXId.mp4?ex=695f247d&is=695dd2fd&hm=91e2c248cae3938a5a614d594e80633931c8272fa2556e93eb05bbc08ea58acf&

[queen dock]

Tragic

[crimson forge]

Kinda crazy that's implemented, like nobody has seen that legitimately probably ever

[obsidian lotus]

who should i drop then

[crimson forge]

Probably Cavendish if you can survive

Like having that retrigger has much longer run potential than a flat 3x mult

[obsidian lotus]

yeah fair

[crimson forge]

But if it's gonna kill you rn, probably not

[obsidian lotus]

bah ill see fafo iykwim

welp I lost too bad

[south badger]

o7 gng

nat negative and skip tag negative in one shop

[rigid bane]

really struggling with the introductions of eternals in black stake would much appreciate if someone could possibly hop in a call and help me out

[jade arch]

I have a strange question

Does Oops, all 6s! double non listed probabilities? Like, the probability of a rare joker in the shop?

[shell dagger]

No

[narrow igloo]

what do i sell for blueprint

[shell dagger]

If you double the probability of rare jokers in the shop, you reduce the probability of commons and uncommons

[shell dagger]

For the win just sell carto

[lost vault]

read the joker .-.

[narrow igloo]

but i need tarrots for fixing

[shell dagger]

Show your deck

[lost vault]

“doubles all listed probabilities”

[narrow igloo]

k

[lunar zealot]

do you have oops

[narrow igloo]

no

but i need blood stone for scoring

but i was thinking carto was the first to go if i find smth better

so ill js do carto

ok yea i made the right choice

jesus christ i got da

dna

[calm furnace]

wait does canio have a tear drop tattoo?

[narrow igloo]

yea

hes affiliated

[calm furnace]

chicot could never

[wind bolt]

I know I'm thinking too far ahead, but I think he's referring to the scar, meaning broken, like what he does with the cards that have the face on them?

[hard mantle]

i still cant believe

that black stake was easier than green stake

[bitter perch]

Worst feeling is getting a few good econ jokers and having lots of money but absolutely nothing good shows up in shops after that

[brisk bluff]

What do I replace

[lilac meteor]

Quick question

How many steel kings do I need in my deck to achieve naneinf with 3 brainstorms, and a blueprint?

[shell dagger]

On plasma deck you need 44 held in hand which means you need 64 in your deck, as you will be playing 20 cards in the serpent

Also I’m sure you have this but this assumes red seal as well

[idle sandal]

i rerolled the fish and got the wall. was that a mistake can i beat this?

[calm furnace]

canio is SCARFACE?

[shell dagger]

no idea

only you know your hand levels

[calm furnace]

you have glass

just pray

[unreal vine]

Interesting 🤔

[calm furnace]

damn not even on ghost

[wind bolt]

someone is cooking here

[calm furnace]

uhm 2pair is 20 chips base right?

[unreal vine]

Incredible

[safe jetty]

Pants

[calm furnace]

i dont think you have to bother with any planets

[quartz ember]

yes

[unreal vine]

Pants with foil too

[calm furnace]

just scale pants and save money for any xmult

[unreal vine]

If I find another ankh this would be interesting

[calm furnace]

real ones know that foil is best edition

i once had a run with 4 poly pants was fun

[unreal vine]

Yeah I had to sacrifice a polychrome red card

[unreal vine]

Fr

I want 4 pants shouldn't take the skip right?

I think is risky

And less scale

[calm furnace]

early game foil scaling mult joker is just a license to brainrot with pairs

[dawn gulch]

Gambling on another Ankh

[calm furnace]

nah skip aint worth it its a tiny pack with 2 spectrals

[unreal vine]

YEAAAAH

[safe jetty]

[calm furnace]

i hate that skip

[unreal vine]

Gambling ankh

How many spectrals are in the game?

[calm furnace]

very bad gamble sadly, 2/18

[unreal vine]

Hmm bad probabilitys, 1/9 to happen

[shell dagger]

Closer to 2/16

[calm furnace]

most spectrals suck

[unreal vine]

Yeah

[shell dagger]

Since black hole and soul are so unlikely

[calm furnace]

you either want immolate or ankh

there is like 18 spectrals right? and the skip only shows 2

[unreal vine]

Except black hole, ankh sometimes and soul ofc, cryptid

[unreal vine]

Yeah

That's bad

[calm furnace]

cryptid can be godlike

[unreal vine]

And maybe deja vu?

[calm furnace]

but it dont do much if you dont have a good card to copy

and deja vu aint much help if you not playing on score builds

[shell dagger]

yes

[calm furnace]

trance is nice and so is the purple seal one

[unreal vine]

But if it there's an ankh waiting for me?

[unreal vine]

Médium

[calm furnace]

the add cards spectrals are nice with hologram or a gamble on a gold card but thats about it

[idle sandal]

only made 40k :(

[shell dagger]

Pants scaling for one round is more valuable

[calm furnace]

i just wish the spectral skip had a medium sized pack

wtf is that 2 card pack

[unreal vine]

I know

Yeah just play this for sure

Don't skip

[calm furnace]

also they already at around 200 chips

the extra 50 wont do much

[idle sandal]

What are the best decks? i think blue deck is good but I'm not sure about the black deck

[ancient gyro]

black deck 💔

[unreal vine]

Oh there's a double tag, but with packs is not possible to take it if it's after, isn't it?

[calm furnace]

most consistent: yellow and blue
very strong: ghost, abandoned, painted and checkered

the best 6 imo

[unreal vine]

Black deck for sure is the best

[unreal vine]

Like take 2 packs I mean

[calm furnace]

suicide thoughts generator

[unreal vine]

Wdym? +1 joker slot is the best 🤑

[quartz ember]

for sure :clueless:

[calm furnace]

black deck is great you can run dagger and campfire and have slot for sacrafice and slot for sale

[ancient gyro]

blue deck currently holds the record of the highest gs win streak atm so it's basically regarded as the best overall deck in terms of consistency with a slightly higher skill ceiling than say yellow
#🕹・game-discussion message

[ancient gyro]

painted 💔

[unreal vine]

Erratic 🥀

[calm furnace]

personally i have my highest wr and biggest streak on painted

but i could have gotten lucky with that streak

[ancient gyro]

what's your streak on it

[acoustic kettle]

The +1 hand of blue is really big for scaling jokers

[idle sandal]

thanks, ill try yellow seems cool

[unreal vine]

Actually +2 hs is great

[acoustic kettle]

Same thing with black deck's

[calm furnace]

hard stuck at 7

[unreal vine]

+10 first shop is brutal

[calm furnace]

every 8th run no matter what deck i always die

[ancient gyro]

twins

[idle sandal]

wdym?

[calm furnace]

so i just gave up and 7 is a cool number

[unreal vine]

+10$

Sorry

Mb

[shell dagger]

i am washed up, haven’t been above 4 in weeks

[calm furnace]

maybe i should give yellow deck a streak run and see

[idle sandal]

ik it's 10$ but idk why u said it's brutal

[calm furnace]

but honestly i find yellow boring

[ancient gyro]

being more conservative in gs with your joker picks as the main source of scoring and econ isn't great for a tradeoff you need to have specific tools for later on in the game

[calm furnace]

these days i only play ghost or anaglyph

[unreal vine]

It's great I mean

[idle sandal]

oh alr

[unreal vine]

Very consistent

[calm furnace]

oh also anagylph has the highest highs but its so rng dependant

but with good luck anaglyph can be insane

[ancient gyro]

anaglyph on average is a neutral deck

[unreal vine]

Gambling on 8 mega arcana

[calm furnace]

with red card 🔥

[shell dagger]

negative tags are surely the highest high

money skip top end isn’t that good

[calm furnace]

one time on ante 6 i found the 3 levels in pair

and dumped all the skip tags on it

easy run

[lunar zealot]

Ello ello

[shell dagger]

oh yeah i took orbital tag in my last run and i think i won because of it

needed to beat the wall

[unreal vine]

Yellow yellow

[calm furnace]

orbital tag would be legit a great skip everytime if it worked like telescope

picking your most used hand

or at least if telescope influenced it

[unreal vine]

Best skip is ofc mega standard pack 🗣️

[shell dagger]

i would prefer if it worked like this

[calm furnace]

hologram enjoyer

[shell dagger]

always being like telescope is active is slightly too strong imo

[ancient gyro]

same

[shell dagger]

the skips should be situational

[unreal vine]

My first gold stake sticker

And with blackboard idk how the hell I did that

[calm furnace]

hologram is always a free win on ghost deck

[idle sandal]

Bean or 8 Ball joker?

[unreal vine]

Fr

[unreal vine]

Bean

[ancient gyro]

context hat

[calm furnace]

its too strong but also you dont always get it

i really hope skips get buffed

[ancient gyro]

telescope is fine

[unreal vine]

But it depends

[calm furnace]

telescope is great

[unreal vine]

Observatory is decent I think, I won't say it's great

[calm furnace]

sometimes it clutches ngl

if im not finding xmult

i will take observatory

[unreal vine]

Ofc sometimes, like if your playing flush five and have 3 eris is very very good

With blue seals is great

[calm furnace]

x2.25 is nothing to be laughed at

[ancient gyro]

it doesn't do much for your usual ante 8 runs without an already existing x mult joker source

[calm furnace]

people meme observatory because of endless brainrot

but sometimes it has its place

[unreal vine]

Perkeo xmult run 🤑

[shell dagger]

gonna start saying this after taking the eternal baron with 2 kings in deck

[ancient gyro]

gonna say this with my bloodstone

[calm furnace]

if i have blue seals and already bought telescope im always picking up observatory if it doesnt ruin my econ

[ancient gyro]

if

😔

[idle sandal]

$46 on the 2nd shop 💀

[unreal vine]

Eternal rental superposition best joker

[calm furnace]

well balatro is a game of ifs

[unreal vine]

If

Btw most jokers must be rebalanced

Like wtf 5$ rebate that's too strong

[calm furnace]

nah rebate aside i dont think so

[unreal vine]

And superposition 🗣️

[calm furnace]

and throwback

my boy needs a buff

[unreal vine]

5$ I think is too much

[unreal vine]

Yeah

[unreal vine]

0.5x

[calm furnace]

thrwback should be the opposite of madness

[calm furnace]

fr

0.5x per skip

would actually be a good joker

[unreal vine]

One of my favourite jokers for sure

[calm furnace]

0.25x hurts so much

[wind bolt]

Am nevoie de niște Xmultiple

[ancient gyro]

1.0 moment

[calm furnace]

as much as i love skipping im never skipping more than twice

[calm furnace]

IT WAS NERFED?

[unreal vine]

1st blackboard

[ancient gyro]

mhm

[calm furnace]

i get nerfing campfire

[unreal vine]

Frr

[calm furnace]

campfire scaling 0.5x was insane

[unreal vine]

That was a thing?

WTF

I'm recent

[calm furnace]

yeah you can see the changes on the wiki

campfire and vampire got nerfed

[idle sandal]

both seem bad ngl

[ancient gyro]

and 0.2x scaling vamp with all played cards

[calm furnace]

6th sense is goated

[shell dagger]

6th sense is ok

[unreal vine]

Ah gotta see

[calm furnace]

even if you get a bad spectral you destroy one card

and sell the spectral for 2$

[unreal vine]

6th sense is good

[calm furnace]

its kinda like a worse trading card

[ancient gyro]

where would old hologram and old rebate be on today's meta

[shell dagger]

what was old holo

[ancient gyro]

0.2x

[idle sandal]

which one is 6th sense? i don't have them discovered

[pale wolf]

old vampire

[unreal vine]

Absolute trash

[shell dagger]

dam

still strong for both

[unreal vine]

That should be constellation

[pale wolf]

??

[unreal vine]

0.2 for constellation

[ancient gyro]

i say play more of the game first

[calm furnace]

holo was 2x?

[pale wolf]

.

[calm furnace]

https://balatrogame.fandom.com/wiki/Update_1.0.1f#Jokers_-_Major_changes

says nothing here

[idle sandal]

both of them do a "6" thing which is 6th sense?

[calm furnace]

damn

[pale wolf]

ew dont use fandom wiki

garbage

[calm furnace]

is there a better one?

its what i get first search result

[ancient gyro]

u disgust me

ill be telling lars and his crew

[unreal vine]

The one is like a person

[pale wolf]

balatrowiki.org

[quartz ember]

balatrowiki.org

[ancient gyro]

balatrowiki.org

[gloomy swallow]

another joker gold staked! 141/150 done!

[pale wolf]

google probably gets money from fandom

[ancient gyro]

its an ad infested website, the profit returns makes sense

[calm furnace]

duckduckgo in my case

[pale wolf]

but why would people keep clicking on it

[calm furnace]

which i guess bing?

[quartz ember]

for me fandom is second result

[pale wolf]

sometimes .org is the first result sometimes its fandom

slowly .org is taking its place

[calm furnace]

it just shows up when you search for anything

i never knew balatro has its own wiki

but its not like i check the wiki regularly aside from when i need to remember what triggers matador

balatro on mizuumi when????

[pale wolf]

on what

[calm furnace]

its a great wiki that hosts many different games

[ancient gyro]

not mainstream enough

also balatro is single player

non violent non vessel