🕹・game-discussion

[haughty carbon]

Then go back to suffering

[marsh goblet]

real...

[coarse garnet]

That’s like wishing you were good at MTG because you play Texas holdem lol

[marsh goblet]

what's mtg

[coarse garnet]

Magic: the gathering

[marsh goblet]

oh i see

yeah kinda lmao

[haughty carbon]

Slay the spire is balatro but no poker aspects

Also 10x the difficulty

[marsh goblet]

and also focused on the deckbuilding

[haughty carbon]

Slay the spire has 20 ascensions a character

[exotic orchid]

Its a bit early for dna i think. Banan if you have some planet levels. Otherwise dna.

[haughty carbon]

80 ascensins to beat

Unlike balatro's like

8 stakes per deck

How many decks do we have

[marsh goblet]

to be fair balatro has more decks

but you can run the same strategies on all of them

for the most part plasma is weird

[haughty carbon]

In sts you can't do that

[coarse garnet]

Wouldn’t it be the earlier the better? Gives you more chances to add cards you need

[marsh goblet]

yeah slay the spire forces you to use different cards on each character

u can technically get every card on any character but that requires a relic only obtainable rarely at a shop

[errant topaz]

slay the spire is also (in my opinion at least) signifigantly harder and lower variance

[marsh goblet]

yeah

[haughty carbon]

15 decks x 8 stakes = 120

4 characters x 20 ascensions = 80

[errant topaz]

you can luck into a gold stakes win pretty often, you cannot luck into an ascension 20 heart win

[exotic orchid]

Kinda bloats the deck. Not that big of a problem. Banana should go 90% of the time. But need to kill some cards. And need to make some glasses.

[haughty carbon]

The heart requires a specific strategy for every character

[marsh goblet]

i dont wanna flood the chat with yapping about sts but man i wanna talk about it so bad lol

[exotic orchid]

Sts?

[haughty carbon]

100%'ing sts is probably easier than balatro

Cuz

[exotic orchid]

Oh slay the spire

[errant topaz]

i only did ascension heart runs on defect and the silent so IDK how the others play

[haughty carbon]

You don't have to do a20 on evert characte

[errant topaz]

its not 100% tho if you don't

though since you don't have to beat the heart at each ascension, that makes it a lot easier

[marsh goblet]

i booted up an sts run and i transformed 2 cards for my neow boon. i got turbo and echo form 🤑

[haughty carbon]

I haven't beaten the heart on watcher yet

Haven't found a strat

[exotic orchid]

I have slay the spire too.

[haughty carbon]

The 3 others I did tho

[haughty carbon]

Insane

[marsh goblet]

the watcher is the strongest character by far but she's also weird

[haughty carbon]

Join the sts discord server

[marsh goblet]

oh right i didn't even check to see if there was one 😭

[haughty carbon]

There is one

[errant topaz]

Question: how often do you guys think it is possible to one-shot the first round with 3 discards?

like percentage wise

[marsh goblet]

i get it like 70% of the time

[hasty harness]

depends on the player and the draws

[signal frigate]

SLAY THE SPIRE?!?!

[marsh goblet]

50% on abandonded deck

[signal frigate]

RAHHHHH

[errant topaz]

with perfect play on average

[signal frigate]

Anyways, Watcher is batshit broken

[marsh goblet]

99% on checkered lmao

[signal frigate]

I couldn't get her the first few times I played her but it turns out she just has lethal every turn

[errant topaz]

yeah checkered and plasma are hard not to on

[marsh goblet]

can u give me the link in dms?

[somber geode]

it's fun but I'm so god damn terrible at it

when I was playing it at my brother's house I couldn't win a single run

[signal frigate]

The mods don't care about off topic stuff

You're free to talk about it here

[marsh goblet]

oh hell yeah

i've been trying to push a20 on all 4 characters

[molten thicket]

dude sts is so fucking hard

[marsh goblet]

i have a good understanding of the ironclad and im great at the silent

[molten thicket]

or at least i suck ass at it

[haughty carbon]

It's .gg/slaythespire

[marsh goblet]

but defect and watcher confuse me so much

[signal frigate]

I was too at first, then this run happened, I've sent this edit a gorillionth times already but this is the ONE RUN that made me love STS

I'm good at Ironclad, decent at silent, mid as Defect and Watcher is Watcher.

[haughty carbon]

Watcher is the most confusing

[marsh goblet]

with defect it always feels like im doing too little damage

[molten thicket]

i mean defect is fine for me

[signal frigate]

Dude, once you understand her, she is OP LMAO

[marsh goblet]

and defect scaling is weird as hell

[haughty carbon]

Ye ik

But understanding her is the hard part

Yk what

[molten thicket]

yeah but you need to like study

[vocal rose]

this is a good question

[signal frigate]

Watcher gets me jumpscared by her damage output cuz I almost always go "Where the fuck did that damage come from?"

[haughty carbon]

Silent is the best character

[marsh goblet]

and watcher is really strong but sometimes i just die from being stubborn and not wanting to make my deck big

[errant topaz]

defect is basically just take defragmentation and win

[vocal rose]

but I can guarantee a two shot 100% of the time

[signal frigate]

She's the worst to play in Ascension Runs

[haughty carbon]

After image and thousand cuts 2 op rare cards

Also shivs are fun

[vocal rose]

balatro

[marsh goblet]

thousand cuts sucks ass 😭

[signal frigate]

Thousand cuts is a meh for me

[formal plinth]

balatro

[vocal rose]

guys we like balatro

[signal frigate]

It's a win more card

[somber geode]

I haven't gotten past the city

[vocal rose]

let’s talk about balatro

[haughty carbon]

No

[marsh goblet]

ugh fine

[haughty carbon]

Sts is the better card game

[signal frigate]

Both good

[vocal rose]

but you’re in the balatro discord

[signal frigate]

Balatro agrees cuz Jimbo is friends with the 4 and Neow

[errant topaz]

I occasionally get a three shot bc i greeded for a 1 shot

But i think if you play safe you shouldn't get a 3 shot or worse almost ever

[haughty carbon]

True

[errant topaz]

oh thats with 2 discards as well

[vocal rose]

yeah I was about to say this

on gold stake getting a 3 shot is very rare

but like 80% of the time I can get a 1 shot

[errant topaz]

i tend to greed for the 1 shot on black deck gold stake cause you really want the extra dollar, since theres some important 6 dollar jokers

idk if thats actually correct though

[signal frigate]

In Round 1?

[vocal rose]

yes

first round of the game

[signal frigate]

3 to 4 cards higher than ranks of 8 for a flush is enough to oneshot round one

[errant topaz]

its flush like 80% of the time

occasional random straight and full house

[signal frigate]

I go for an Ace to 10 straight most of the time

[errant topaz]

ill go for the straight if I don't have good flush cards and i have QJ10, or KQJ

[signal frigate]

Ace to 10 is a guaranteed one shot

So that's almost always my go to

[errant topaz]

queen higher or better is

[sharp ginkgo]

My deck is fully deck fixed to lucky king of hearts, working on making them all red seal. The bloodstone was naturally negative from the shop. Should I sell bloodstone before I sell the invisible? I like it as a negative but don't really want it taking up a joker slot, not sure if I should gamble on it or not

[errant topaz]

what is your goal?

[vocal rose]

i’d sell it

you want the highest chance for a bp

or you can just save scum

[signal frigate]

You don't have an oops

Just go full trib

[sharp ginkgo]

Big number I guess

[errant topaz]

oh yeah sell it then

[sharp ginkgo]

Yeah I'll sell bloodstone too then, thanks all

[bleak blaze]

Eternal Riff Raff Gambit ❤️

[errant topaz]

riff raff broken

best goldstake common I think

[hybrid tendon]

best common

[twin lantern]

Best common is red joker

Yorick rework

Now

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1457988006005968976

Discuss chat

[opal delta]

three riff raffs!

all eternal too

[errant topaz]

even better!

[twin lantern]

Ankh never hits madness

Its....

Crazy

[twin lantern]

Ive never been able to win by luck in chess

[errant topaz]

never lucky...

[wicked sable]

i have every option to pivot

uhh what do

[graceful oasis]

hey whoevers alive at 1am on a tuesday, I finished a webapp that uses your profile save to automatically mark your gold stake jokers for you, so you don't have to manually update a spreadsheet template or a text file every time you get a win. This makes it easy to see what you have left, and it persists in localstorage in browser so theres no account creation etc. Since you also dont need a gmail account to access it, (No shade to the guy who made that amazing spreadsheet) I consider it the least invasive tool to help with c++.

It is live at ://balatrojokertracker.vercel.app/

And the github readme is here ://github.com/JoshSims77/JokerTracker/blob/main/README.md

pretty proud of it tbh!

[pearl moss]

hey i came back to this game after a year, only missing 1 achievement which is the gold stake sticker on all joker. what deck is the go to

[graceful oasis]

crazy that i just finished that project then lol

ghost or anaglyph @pearl moss

ghost i think is the most favored once youre near the end, anaglyph can help for bulk.

i use yellow sometimes too to switch things up

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[hardy fable]

the deck where you win consistently, for me it's blue

[vocal rose]

blue deck

blue or yellow deck

[floral mural]

getting amber acorn on sticker runs feels so good

im free to take any sticker if i can score enough hehe

walkie talkie and scary face sticker

a low red card at only 54 huh

and cat is at 3.5x

god i have 4 out of 6 of my last sticker be uncommons damn it

hiker flower pot dusk and cola

[mellow cypress]

😎

[lost vault]

balaro

[pearl moss]

damn these tax sticker and expire really hurts

[dull sapphire]

daily random deck gold stake balatro
day 6 - anaglyph deck FSZ82KLD

[pearl moss]

i recall only having eternal

[night turret]

Hmmm ecto or ankh?

[dull sapphire]

comments: ||surprisingly, despite skipping a lot, anaglyph had almost nothing to do with this win||

[night turret]

It says it gives -2 hand size now too?

[dull sapphire]

yeah ecto's -1 hand size also increases more you use it

[normal sable]

ankh is like throwing

balathrowing

[night turret]

Oh I never use it, that’s why I never see it

[dull sapphire]

otherwise you could just ecto for troubadors endlessly and end up with net positive hand size

it actually used to stay only -1 per

[night turret]

I think I should just skip

[dull sapphire]

but idk if this was demo only or in an early version before bloodstone tweaks

[north smelt]

Hanging chad is ultra broken

[night turret]

I would use ankh but I guess that would give me worse builds

[dull sapphire]

what is ankh doing for you lol

juts skip yeah

[north smelt]

Also fuck plant

[night turret]

Potentially copy wee, but that’s a 1 and 6 chance

So I skip for now

[dull sapphire]

you'd want to copy cavendish instead

since wee asymptotes at x2 maximum

while cavendish is just a flat x3

[normal sable]

You can sell everything but the thing you want to copy to guarantee the result

[dull sapphire]

can't, he has 2 eternals

[normal sable]

Oh, true

So not 1 in 6

But 1 in 3

[night turret]

Whatever still lost

Made I think like 2 bad decisions, and that ruined the whole build I was going for

[normal sable]

Unlucky

[dull sapphire]

here's a question: you're on anaglyph deck ante 5 with all 4 double tags and going up against the pillar on a bloodstone run. there is a boss reroll skip available. you have made a fair amount of hearts, but only barely enough retrigger/enhanced hearts. do you take the boss reroll tag?

[heady narwhal]

bloodstone run
this scenario is too far-fetched to be possible to answer

[dull sapphire]

it showed up in a buffoon pack ante 2 so i took it

[heady narwhal]

and you didn't sell for interest?

anyways i'm pretending this is an arrowhead run in which case i'm taking the non-boss skip if i have too many spades

[foggy yew]

Deamn, that's a scaling

[dull sapphire]

i was already ready to build for flushes, and it was early enough i hadn't decided what suit to do next

[heady narwhal]

i think taking the boss tag is too risky because i could get a much worse boss than pillar

[dull sapphire]

so yeah it was valuable direction that i took

[north smelt]

10 winstreak!

[heady narwhal]

bloodstone is more valuable as $3 than it is as scoring

imo

[dull sapphire]

i also got mail-in for my first joker so i wasn't too concerned about interest

[heady narwhal]

the only flush joker i really like is arrowhead and that's better for 4oak anyways

[dark cairn]

purple stake obliterated for green deck

did it first try

gambled on taking madness early with some eternals and it paid off

only +mult joker i needed was raised fist

[dull sapphire]

anyway that run was extremely weird, it was the rare run where you skip a lot for the purpose of actually skipping the blind

[foggy yew]

[hardy fable]

nc, what stake?

[dull sapphire]

got a perishable oops in ante 6 that i would have certainly died without if i didn't skip to preserve it to the ante 8 boss

[north smelt]

Trying to complete C+

[dull sapphire]

and by then my build was fully intact

[dark cairn]

castle + space joker + fist + rocket + constellation + madness (antimatter)
easy win

[north smelt]

So all stake ig

[hardy fable]

ccitb-

[north smelt]

Even gold one

[heady narwhal]

i mean with both bp and grabber it's almost tempting i think

[dark cairn]

i cant believe it

everyone told me green deck and nebula deck were hot ass

but ive been having a ton of fun with them

[dull sapphire]

green deck is solid

it just has a very different econ than most people are used to

i personally love green deck

[heady narwhal]

past ante 1 and 2 green deck can only lose you money

[dark cairn]

said econ supposedly goes against the meta bc interest is so strong

[dull sapphire]

that said i am a nebula deck hater

[heady narwhal]

it's more because playing hands and using discards are so strong

[dark cairn]

really though i think all green deck needs is for seed money and money tree to do SOMETHING for it

[dark cairn]

yes

[heady narwhal]

blue seals, gold cards, scalers, etc etc etc

[dark cairn]

i am aware of that

[hard mantle]

yall think this build could carry us to ante 12

[dull sapphire]

i'm one of those weirdos who uses remaining hands as econ

so yeah green deck meshes well with my playstyle

[errant topaz]

damn basically a winning build at ante 4

[foggy yew]

Only if ur not ante 6 + rn

[hardy fable]

cartomancer gonna give you soul fr

[dark cairn]

telescope is one of my fav vouchers and having it from the very start lets you play around it from the very beginning
it's perfect for me

[dull sapphire]

i can't stand the missing consumable slot

[dark cairn]

the -1 consumable slot sucks but meh

i just avoid emperor and high priestess then

[hardy fable]

blue seals

[hard mantle]

its so peak

[dark cairn]

didnt end up needing them for my gold stake nebula deck win

[hardy fable]

you may need them

blue seal good

[dark cairn]

i think i had a space joker + oa6 or something? lemme check my clip

ah no i had rtb supernova chad and lucky cat lol

and i guess i just relied on telescope for chips

here's the clip https://medal.tv/games/balatro/clips/lQlF6hRoC_RJ3KA5D?invite=cr-MSxLcnEsMzg1MjQ0MTcy&v=60

do i think nebula deck is good, per se?

eh not really

i think its okay

but just as drspectred likes zodiac deck somehow, i'm allowed to like nebula deck even with its drawback

besides you can always hope you get crystal ball

[hard mantle]

shit

sold my chaos instead of my jimbo

</3

[dark cairn]

a sacrifice to the almighty jimbo

though im glad green deck is going well

cause uh

after that im only going to have plasma deck and black deck left

☹️

plasma deck will probably be a breeze up until purple stake but after that i have no idea what the fuck im going to do

[lost vault]

thunk should put me in the game

[dark cairn]

and black deck i dont even want to think about yet

at least plasma is good in the early and endgame

black deck is only good if your run is already fairly solid

[hard mantle]

why do i suddenly have more confidence in this run

[lost vault]

plamsa is stanky endgame

unless u getva hood pivot

[dark cairn]

thought it was good bc of xmult

[lost vault]

good

[lost vault]

meh yah but like
pivotinghard idk

[dark cairn]

isnt the strategy stacking chips for early game and hten pivoting into mult

[brazen island]

Got a gold stake plasma run today with square, wee, bull and hanging chad it was nutty

[dark cairn]

yeah the pivoting part is the problem

[lost vault]

u cant always do that tho

[dark cairn]

you die in hte midgame while trying to pivot

[lost vault]

blaxkboard op

[dark cairn]

tbf drspectred managed to beat plasma deck gs with both +chips only and +mult only

but yeah

plasma deck is def the 2nd hardest

[brazen island]

I did it with pure +chips today, no planets or mult

Pure luck

Really fun tho

[lost vault]

oky but saying dr spectred could do it is like saying usain coild beat me in a race like yeah of course he can

[dark cairn]

lmao

[hard mantle]

does wild card disable blackboard

[dark cairn]

its funny how well that comparison fits

[hard mantle]

IE: a wildcard clubs technically counts as a heart so it disables blackboard

[lost vault]

+mult only is kinda wild tbh

[brazen island]

No, the opposite

[dark cairn]

blackboard checks if the card counts as a spade or club

if spade/club then x3 mult = yes

[lost vault]

unno

[brazen island]

You can put it on a diamond or heart and it’ll count as black for blackboard too

[lost vault]

just dont run wilds they stink

[dark cairn]

so if it counts as all suits then it counts as a club and enables it

[hard mantle]

oh okay cool

[dark cairn]

and stones are the opposite

[brazen island]

Slanderous

[dark cairn]

because they count as no suit it disables it

[dark cairn]

but true

[lost vault]

stines are gay and hav no suit

the gay part doesntmatyer just thougjt id mention it

[brazen island]

SLANDEROUS DONT B TALKING SMACK ABOUT MY ROCKS 😞

They are gay tho yeah

[lost vault]

is calling something gay slanderous now

[dark cairn]

how to make wild cards viable:
1: make wild cards unable to be debuffed
2: make lovers able to turn 2 cards into wilds instead of just 1

[brazen island]

No I thought u were slandering the rocks tho

[lost vault]

nosuit is just how they work

no rank or suit

[hard mantle]

all we're missing now is a good econ card

[brazen island]

Rough gem incoming 🔥🔥🔥

[lost vault]

how to make wild card viable:
+1000000 mult
make lobers as rare as soul

[dark cairn]

cryptid mod ahh balancing

[brazen island]

How to make wild cards viable: they come with the gold seal I took in the standard pack

[errant topaz]

would wildcards be broken if they counted as every rank

[lost vault]

googol play card ass concepy

(1 in 8 for x1e100 mult)

[brazen island]

Yeah 100%

[hard mantle]

fuckin

the mark defeated us

[dark cairn]

that would be the most overpowered thing in the game

[hard mantle]

cause the game just flat out wouldnt give us any of our club cards

[dark cairn]

flush five would become a viable hand for gold stake

[errant topaz]

thats a bit of an overstatement

[hard mantle]

most of our deck were club cards!!!!

[lost vault]

single rank mega straight

[hard mantle]

and the game wouldnt give us any of them!!!!

[errant topaz]

it doesn't actually make flush five much easier

[hard mantle]

im genuinely malding that was such an obnoxious hand

[brazen island]

What if wild cards gave you 1 trillion dollars every time they scored

[errant topaz]

its mostly straights and full houses that it makes easier

[hard mantle]

fuck face cards. im done using those fucks

[brazen island]

They’re learning

[dark cairn]

still i think thatd be way too strong

[lost vault]

okay but wild ranks would make straight flush five house possible and thats kinda funny

[errant topaz]

it might be yeah, though i don't think its that far from being ok

[dark cairn]

as much as ouija is shit theres a reason it has a cost for using

[errant topaz]

thats reason enough!

[dark cairn]

fixing your ranks is far harder and far stronger than fixing your suits

thats also why erratic deck is really good

[errant topaz]

well yeah obviously its a huge buff to WC

[lost vault]

mmm purrrr

[dark cairn]

start a run with 10 queens? play 4oak and you win 👏

[abstract rivet]

The plant:

[errant topaz]

eratic deck is kindof mid

its in the worse half of decks i think

[dark cairn]

Could be 4 aces or 4 number cards too

i just picked queens at random

[dark cairn]

hell no it ain't lol

[lost vault]

lowk 4oak builds dont need to score the cards mars is just that goated with the sauce

erratic is funny

[dark cairn]

This too

[brazen island]

Callifrax international information Romeo weather at 1800 zulu wind 350 at 9 visibility 1 and 1/2 slight drizzle mist 400 overcast

[dark cairn]

just maybe get some xmult jokers (family, anyone?) and youre good

[hard mantle]

WOOOOOOO

[lost vault]

anyone who thinks erratic is the hold r deck has the wrong mindset

[hard mantle]

ZA WARUDO

[dark cairn]

I just do it cause i think its more fun to start with 1/4 of my deck as 1 rank

[lost vault]

meh

[hard mantle]

i need an econ card now tho

[errant topaz]

Blue, Yellow, Ghost, Abandoned are all obviously stronger, Red and anaglyph are IMO much stronger

i guess its middle of the pack

[dark cairn]

the goad is coming

[lost vault]

any deck can be a hold r deck (skip tags)

[dark cairn]

anaglyph? stronger? wtf?

[brazen island]

??? Anaglyph? Do you have updated skip tags or something

[errant topaz]

i mean its better then erratic

[dark cairn]

hell no it isnt

[brazen island]

Not even

[dark cairn]

99% of the time its just a blank deck

[hard mantle]

best econ

[brazen island]

Absolutely not

[brazen island]

🔥🔥

[dark cairn]

anaglyph deck doesnt let you play 4oak from round 1

[hard mantle]

at least i can beat it without my jokers

[errant topaz]

you usually don't get a good enough deck to 4OAK round 1 on erratic

[brazen island]

You often do

[errant topaz]

Maybe im just terminally unlucky

[brazen island]

More often than not I think mathematically

[lost vault]

anaglyph is the stinky deck

[errant topaz]

being able to do it 80% of the time isn't enough though

[dark cairn]

me when playing anaglyph deck and all the skip tags are shit

[errant topaz]

it needs to be 99%

[lost vault]

anyway technically speaking erratic is always better than base deck save for ancient joker

[brazen island]

Me when playing anaglyph deck and every single skip tag is an orbital tag for full house

[lost vault]

maybe play full houses shaking my head

[errant topaz]

orbital for full house with 3 double tags kindof broken though

[dark cairn]

or top up tag when im already at 4 or 5 jokers

[lost vault]

full houses kinda stinky

[errant topaz]

yeah but 10 levels is kind of a lot

[brazen island]

If you ever catch me playing full houses put a knife in my heart because I have been replaced by an evil clone

[lost vault]

owo

[dark cairn]

full house only good with triboulet 💔

[hard mantle]

switching to clubs ig

what arcana makes clubs again?

[lost vault]

but when i say bottoming to clubs everyone flips their shit

[brazen island]

Moon

[dark cairn]

the moon haunts you

[brazen island]

Bottoming at the club with my lustful joker

[hard mantle]

ty ~

[lost vault]

uwu

[dark cairn]

what does that mean

[hard mantle]

you're already a lusty joker

[lost vault]

u dont know whay bottoming is ?

so when two boys love each other very much

actually just look itnup

[dark cairn]

ok shut up i know what that means

[hard mantle]

huh... i think the game is asking me to play pairs

[dark cairn]

idk what "bottoming for a club" means

[lost vault]

hehehe

[dark cairn]

you doing it for a caveman?

also this is a discord server for a fucking card game keep it in your pants

[hard mantle]

bottoming is the act of being penetrated during intercourse

[lost vault]

i was making a joke base don the sentence “switchinh to clubs”

cuz cuz

switch

bottom

uk

[dark cairn]

those words have nothing to do wiht each other

[brazen island]

A switch is someone who alternates between bottoming and topping

[placid ridge]

Completely forgot I was playing erratic deck and thought "why am I drawing 4oak 7s so much?" lmao

[lost vault]

okay so a switch is like when you’re willing to bottom or top

[dark cairn]

oh

[lost vault]

so yes they do

[hard mantle]

game is begging me to do a pair build

[brazen island]

The game is always begging you to do a pair build, its cries just fall silent on your flushed out ears

[lost vault]

uhh one of these is a pair joker

qwq

welo

[dark cairn]

welo

[lost vault]

mime could be coujted (blue seal)

[hard mantle]

okay yeah nvm

[errant topaz]

sly joker my love

[hard mantle]

i dont play flushes usually

[brazen island]

Every joker is a pair joker if you play enough Balatro

[lost vault]

im on a tiny assphone ofc im gonna make ypos

[hard mantle]

i do straights or high cards

[dark cairn]

lol i just think welo sounds funny

[errant topaz]

anchient joker

[lost vault]

wololo

[dark cairn]

narwini

[brazen island]

Nah ur right that’s a high card joker

[lost vault]

i do gays or sober cards

im so fickinhbfunny

cht should isnleep

[errant topaz]

so true

[brazen island]

I suspect this gay isn’t a sober card

[lost vault]

im drunk off of being awake at 1am

[dark cairn]

the hand i play depends on the situation im in simple as that

[errant topaz]

shoutout PST

[brazen island]

Dang it’s 4 am for me and I’m going strong, maybe become an awakeaholic

[lost vault]

im a lightweight qwq

[hard mantle]

im going to do things to you

[lost vault]

////<

[brazen island]

Lot of sexual tension in the Balatro gen chat tonight

[hard mantle]

:3

[dark cairn]

most cases i pay pairs
if i get a stuntman or smthn i play high card
if i get a lot of straight related jokers i play straights
if i get an arrowhead or onyx agate and a smeared joker/a lot of world/moon cards i play flushes

[lost vault]

happens

[brazen island]

Straight related jokers are bait they’re for pairs

Runner is a pair joker ‼️‼️‼️

[hard mantle]

yeah okay runs dead

[dark cairn]

superposition shortcut and four fingers are for pairs?

[brazen island]

Yes

Play the superposition to get the tarot card and then play pairs

[hard mantle]

i wont be able to pass that ante

[brazen island]

Shortcut and four feeners make runner and superposition better

Pair jokers

Case rested

[dark cairn]

and then what if i use most of my hands looking for the straight

because specifically finding an ace straight is difficult

[brazen island]

You’re not likely to get two ace high straights anyway, so play one if you can get it while still building pairs

[lost vault]

shortcut is sooogood ugnngh 🤤

[dark cairn]

go the fuck to sleep

[lost vault]

grrr maybe

i should

[brazen island]

Go to sleep you’re starting to say delusional things

[hard mantle]

when the joker is devious

[lost vault]

wdym im just truthing

[hard mantle]

would

[lost vault]

owo

[brazen island]

You really love bottoms then cuz shortcut is a bottom tier joker

[lost vault]

guess i just see myself in it

[brazen island]

Happens

[lost vault]

:3

(im bottom tier)

[dark cairn]

heres the thing

[hard mantle]

:3

[dark cairn]

if i dont have a good way of getting straight levels

then yes ill use superposition and runner and whatnot to help with pairs

but if i get telescope or blue seals and im already playing straights

then

yknow

[lost vault]

:3

[dark cairn]

why not? they scale so hard you dont need scoring jokers

[brazen island]

If you have telescope and blue seals then you have an easy transition to pairs which are way more consistent

[lost vault]

theres the thing

[brazen island]

Cinema

Can someone respond to that with the cinema image

On my behalf

[dark cairn]

but if i dont have good scoring already without the straight then

[hard mantle]

wruf :3

[dark cairn]

also sometimes i just want to play straights bc pairs are fkin boring

[lost vault]

miyaau :3

[minor portal]

[hard mantle]

ARF ARF ARF ARF

[dark cairn]

like if i find a nat negative order (i did once actually) im gonna be playing straights as my main hand even if it kills me

[lost vault]

MAOW MEAW MEOEW MREEOW

[errant topaz]

i play 2 pair a lot even though its worse

[dark cairn]

Oh yea right forgot about 2 pair

[lost vault]

man i have changed so much over the past 2 years

[dark cairn]

2 pair is just the spare trousers hand lol

[lost vault]

miau :3

[brazen island]

I once smoked crack in the dry storage room of a Vietnamese military base and I still have never felt a better high than finding a good early pair build

[errant topaz]

well its good on painted deck

[hard mantle]

not selling riff raff coz im waiting for the gros to eplode

[dark cairn]

i played straights on painted deck

its perfect for painted deck

[lost vault]

the best high ever is the ego fumes after winning a dog shit run

[hard mantle]

WRUF ARF BARK ARF WRUF WRFFF BORK ARF

[dark cairn]

dont need as much scoring jokers and the hand size makes them far easier to get

[errant topaz]

2 pair is the pair of painted deck

[lost vault]

maoww :<

[brazen island]

Nope for me it’s getting a free win and not losing my streak

[errant topaz]

but yeah straights are good on painted

[dark cairn]

take it to whatever furry rp server you're in please

[hard mantle]

absolute funniest boss i could have gotten after getting greedy joker

[hard mantle]

make me :3

[hard mantle]

wruf

[lost vault]

this is our only mutual

muahaha

[lost vault]

nyaan -w-

[brazen island]

Bazinga (I am Sheldon cooper in a fur suit)

[hard mantle]

LMFAO GROS DIED IN ONE ROUND

[dark cairn]

just making animal noises in chat for no reason repeatedly could be considered a breach of rule 6 yknow

[lost vault]

hell yah cavendish

[hard mantle]

i am literally in four servers and one you could not possibly be in :3

[hard mantle]

could but not is

[lost vault]

fun police 3:<

[hard mantle]

thats all i need to know uwu

[lost vault]

im in like 20 and one u couldnt possibly be in

more than 1

bwaah

[brazen island]

Dawg we’re the only four people on right now if you get them muted there will be nobody left to converse with. You can either listen to the meowing or not talk about Balatro the decision is yours brother

[lost vault]

real

[brazen island]

I’m getting Stockholm syndrome for it already

[hard mantle]

playin the gay flush :3

[lost vault]

yaay

[dark cairn]

well i was trying to have a conversation not get spammed by furry noises

[hard mantle]

real :3

[dark cairn]

but whatever i should probably head to bed myself

[brazen island]

Just me and the furry noises then

[dark cairn]

bye

[brazen island]

This reminds me of my time in Vietnam

[lost vault]

myeiaw

[lost vault]

i may use this app too muchbidi

idk

miau

[hard mantle]

wruf!!!

[lost vault]

mrrrp :3

[vocal rose]

🧐

[reef thicket]

is this a loss?

[lost vault]

nyaah

[brazen island]

What’s campfire at

[vocal rose]

please copy campfire

[hard mantle]

arf arf arf :3

[vocal rose]

and sell the death

[reef thicket]

only x1.25

[lost vault]

so glad god made me a catbou

y

[lost vault]

i’d say ur selling but clearly ur not

[brazen island]

God doesn’t deserve any credit for that tbh

[lost vault]

true :3

[brazen island]

That was all you king

[lost vault]

uwu

[brazen island]

Sell the useless stuff

[lost vault]

ya lowk might be worth selling like banana idk

[brazen island]

Hard to tell what your scoring looks like

[lost vault]

xmult is so goated

idk

[brazen island]

+chips are so goated

And +mult

[lost vault]

truee

[brazen island]

It’s all goated

[lost vault]

but the best

[brazen island]

It’s a world full of goats

[lost vault]

the goatof goats

is +money

🤑

[brazen island]

I once watched a man slaughter a goat in a hookah bar in Bangladesh

[lost vault]

ras

raw

[acoustic kettle]

Xmoney

[brazen island]

WE NEED XMONEY THIS IS THE MISSING PIECE 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[lost vault]

the only xmoney in balatro totally sucks
(ox and wraith uwu)

you see its xmoney cuz it multiplies your money by 0

[brazen island]

Got xmoney on my wrist what u know about motion

[lost vault]

umm

miau

[hard mantle]

that run died

fuck my life

[reef thicket]

hear me out, i sell clever and then use death to turn the ace into 9 of clubs and play the flush

[brazen island]

Reasonable

[hard mantle]

why am i having so much pain with green stake

🔫

[brazen island]

Don’t worry it gets way easier once you get to blue stake

[lost vault]

is that better

ik

idk

[hard mantle]

i dont even know how im building wrong at this point

[brazen island]

Are you building pairs

[hard mantle]

it feels like the game is just actively refusing to give me anything but shitty common jokers or rare jokers that would require me to pivot into something else

[lost vault]

not gonna lie chat its been a while since ive balatroed

[hard mantle]

believe it or not but ive had the WORST fucking luck with pairs

anytime i play them the run ends because the game wont give me pairs, or the cards just flat out say no

[lost vault]

shrimply pivot idk

[hard mantle]

and anytime i pivot into them the run dies that ante

without fail

[lost vault]

play with what the gayme gives u

[bleak hemlock]

[brazen island]

Chuzzle deluxe I REALLY hate to say this because it’s almost always bait but I genuinely think your problem may just be a skill issue and you just have to play and learn more

[lost vault]

umm

skillissuebmaybe

sorry

[hard mantle]

it IS a skill issue i KNOW this but its NOT HELPFUL TO SAY THAT

[lost vault]

sry meow meow :(

[hard mantle]

need a puppy crashing out emoji

🐶 🔫

[brazen island]

Is it better if I say skill problem? Maybe skill deficiency

[minor portal]

balatro is a game meant to be played

[lost vault]

chat i should probably catch some zs

[hard mantle]

im going to kill you

[lost vault]

so uh um

[hard mantle]

goodnight

[lost vault]

goodbye miau

[hard mantle]

sleep tight

[lost vault]

:3

[hard mantle]

dont let the puppies bite

[lost vault]

ill sleep tight alright

so tight

ok bye

[hard mantle]

im quitting balatro for now

i dont play a game if it stops being fun

[brazen island]

I died in a Brazilian rainforest after being stabbed with a cocaine-covered knife and was resurrected after seventeen seconds of total heart failure

[hard mantle]

skill issue

[brazen island]

Yeah my lies are pretty bad I’m working on it

[hard mantle]

im just gonna play tf2 and kill friendlies

[brazen island]

You’ll feel better if you solo queue ranked league for 14 hours 🙂

[hard mantle]

ew no

balatro is already my form of self harm i dont need league

[minor portal]

tf2 isn't?

[hard mantle]

im a phlog pyro

tf2 is catharsis

[brazen island]

Balatro is apotheosis

Your worth is little before the eyes of the unholy. It must be ground and flayed into their fetid flesh through triumph over gold stake

[whole storm]

[brazen island]

Any run where hit the road is involved is a win in my opinion

[deft sandal]

always love an first shop brainstorm

[lunar zealot]

take hallu

[brazen island]

HELL YEAH WE LOVE HIT THE ROAD RUNS 🔥🔥

[brazen island]

It’s bait trust

[vocal rose]

no we love a first shop hallucination

[jolly locust]

hi guys, any info abt the update??

[vocal rose]

the only information we got was that it wasn’t coming out in 2025

it’s likely coming out this year but there’s no basis for that

[bitter perch]

[jolly locust]

that’s a huge information thanks jimbo i guess

[vocal rose]

I mean what’d you expect

[floral mural]

localthunk said its done when its done so theres currently no estimate

cryptids a bit of an unbalanced mess is it not?

[vocal rose]

I mean I said there’s no basis for what I said

but I really doubt

it’s going to take even 2026

to finish the update

[floral mural]

2026 would make sense but im not really caring. games good as is

[vocal rose]

I’ve hit a wall with the game

[floral mural]

after i hit c++ ill probably drop it

personally

[vocal rose]

I have no motivation to play until the update comes out but im apart of a huge minority

[obsidian patrol]

2x the required blind size

[jolly locust]

since i hit c++ i never open it again so, we’re in the same situation

[vocal rose]

i’ve hit c++ 3 times and that’s what it took for me to get bored with the game lmao

[pearl moss]

i wish i reach the c++ its pretty time consuming achievement

[jolly locust]

holy lol i dont find any good reason to be playing again considering that i need to do that stupid 19th challenge again

[pearl moss]

72%

its rough to use the bad joker

[floral mural]

the trick for c++ isnt using bad jokers its carrying them alongside your good ones

[jolly locust]

just do on checkered deck hanging + photo and take 3 more jokers, free gold stickers

[shell phoenix]

chat what's the difference between this and the roblox one

[vocal rose]

you can get c++ without doing the challenges

it’s just getting gold stickers on all jokers

[floral mural]

that the roblox one is way worse id assume

[pearl moss]

and then the good joker gets the rental sticker

[floral mural]

balatros a good relatively cheap game especially on mobile

[deft sandal]

is this a bait tho

[floral mural]

goodbye idol

[jolly locust]

yh but i hate to have everything except for a little part of the game, i know myself lol

[shell phoenix]

100% guaranteed

[deft sandal]

I reckon is chicot

[shell phoenix]

you ain't getting chicot

[floral mural]

chicot is good tho

and idols doing nothing

[shell phoenix]

yeah but he's not getting it

[deft sandal]

I just realised no legendary is useful for me rn

Im on abandoned

[shell phoenix]

what ya got tho

[deft sandal]

Lmao

trib/canio are useless

yorick, I only have 2 discards

the only one that is slightly useful might be perkeo

I'm taking deja vu

[shell phoenix]

well perkeo is usefull most of the time

chicot is chicot

[cloud sinew]

2 discards is still basically +1x per ante

[vocal rose]

strengths exist for canio

yorick is 1.3x mult per ante

[deft sandal]

I'm only ante 6 lmao, it would be at 3x when i beat the game

[vocal rose]

and that’s… really good!

[cloud sinew]

which is very good

[vocal rose]

considering you have zero x mult

[cloud sinew]

that's a Cavendish that can't die

[deft sandal]

i can't even find hanged man

I still have a 39 card deck

[cloud sinew]

you can't or you haven't been

[deft sandal]

I've been copying hallucination and only one hanged man has shown up in this run

[lunar zealot]

what's your money at cuh

'i can't find x card' = 'i don't have money'

under like 90% of scenarios

[floral mural]

is idol even doing anything there?

im seriously asking

[cloud sinew]

you have double rebate, that seems like you're not blocking tarots efficiently or you're not spending enough on rolls if you haven't found a single hanged man with like +$20 a round

[last geyser]

I finally beat gold stake for painted deck

Only black deck left 🫠

[deft sandal]

my mail in rebate is not doing shit tbf, it has been hitting the card i have the least amount of

the Idol is more consistent than the rebate

[cloud sinew]

doesn't really matter, you're on abandoned so you are very likely to find it

[cloud sinew]

that is just not true

unless you only have 1 of a bunch of ranks, rebate is going to be very good econ, especially on abandoned

[vocal rose]

ermmmm

[floral mural]

the fact you can force idol on a barely fixed abandoned deck doesnt make it good

[vocal rose]

so what’d you get from the soul

[cloud sinew]

you have 5 hands which means you can already see 28 cards in your deck without using discards

[floral mural]

they took a red seal

over a legendary

[cloud sinew]

yes

[vocal rose]

omg!!

[royal ore]

pfp checks out

[floral mural]

i dont care what run yall have idol is unusable in gold stake ngl

[vocal rose]

🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

like what

[cloud sinew]

when they have idol

[pearl moss]

man i just love it when i failed the boss because i was missing 20 points

[deft sandal]

I used the relog tactic to see what's inside and it's a chicot

[floral mural]

CHICOT IS GOOD THO

over idol at least

[deft sandal]

I have directors cut and retcon, why would I need chicot

[floral mural]

info you didnt tell us

[deft sandal]

chicot is trash anyways

the ruins the game

[floral mural]

chicot is boring not trash

[deft sandal]

Yea

[cloud sinew]

the most I've underscored by, relative to the boss blind, is ~0.3%
(blind was 3200)

[drowsy tapir]

Just doing some gold stake for fun and won with this goofy aah build

[floral mural]

econ flat mult xmult that works

and i assume card levels for chips

[cloud sinew]

it's +$10, also it saves you $10 as you don't have to reroll

[drowsy tapir]

Level 15 pair yeah

220 chips and 16 mult

[cloud sinew]

your joker order is quite suboptimal btw, bootstraps should be leftmost as the xmult from Baseball triggers on the Uncommon, effectively making it polychrome, so you want it to be left of your other uncommons

[pearl moss]

Honestly i am thinking whether c++ is worth the time sink or not. 72% gold sticker

[drowsy tapir]

I moved it later on. Check last pic

[vocal rose]

it is

[abstract rivet]

Yeah probs made it suboptimal on purpose to farm parking money

[cloud sinew]

it is, but take it slow. I've done it twice and both times the best strategy has been playing for fun rather than for efficiency. if you prefer playing erratic deck over blue/yellow... then do that. preventing burnout is the best way to do it imo

[pearl moss]

I recall finishing c+ which was already took more than 150 hours

[drowsy tapir]

Yupp

[deft sandal]

I'm not even joking, the idol is hitting the card I need more than rebate hitting the card I have the most

[cloud sinew]

the last pic is still suboptimal as you have two uncommons left of bootstraps

[drowsy tapir]

Its all way left on the last one

[abstract rivet]

What?

[cloud sinew]

I did my first in 170 and 2nd within 150, but that was with basically no idle hours and with me locking in for it

[wicked sable]

craziest first shop I've ever seen. sucks that I'm broke

[hardy fable]

the best shop would have contain me

[cloud sinew]

I wouldn't take either of these if I had $10

[deft sandal]

if I've taken the chicot over the idol, I wouldn't have scored this much to beat the last blind even if its not violet vessel

[cloud sinew]

scoring that much doesn't make a difference within ante 8 though

[deft sandal]

but I cant even beat the blind if I take the chicot over idol

[floral mural]

idol doing nothing here

4x was not tha difference here

[deft sandal]

that's a flush five idol

[cloud sinew]

you score 1.7m if you divide that by (2^10), so yes you would have

[floral mural]

if chicot was there youd only need to score 400k

as well

[deft sandal]

whatever, let's move on

[floral mural]

overscoring does nothing but look cool

also personally i think flush five isnt usually a worthwhile pivot over 4oak since thats usually leveled a bunch

[cloud sinew]

yeah if you had chicot it'd be over 3x overscoring still

[deft sandal]

I'm here to play balatro, not to do maths

[cloud sinew]

balatro has numbers in it, unsurprisingly you might be better off if you do maths in balatro

[floral mural]

im not gonna pretend idol is good personally. its basically unusable and any run that can use it is gonna win regardless

[wicked sable]

but if you had $20?

[whole storm]

guys i need advice for orange stake 😔

[vocal rose]

the move is to sell dna and take the buffoon

[vocal rose]

buffoon pack first

and that’ll determine if brainstorm is worth

and then money tree if I get econ from the buffoon

[vocal rose]

do you need general broad winning advice or advice pertaining to specifically orange stake

[whole storm]

general i guess

[wicked sable]

i got the DNA from a baffoon

[vocal rose]

yep

and now you open the other one

[floral mural]

and do you have a good card to copy with dna?

[vocal rose]

because you’ve made your money back by selling dna

[floral mural]

dna and brainstorm are similar in that taking them for potential early is throwing

[vocal rose]

non retroactive scaling jokers CANNOT be perishable

[vocal rose]

so their value goes up even more in orange stake+

which is also just basic winning strategy as scaling jokers are the kings of winning consistency

[floral mural]

i dont care how good the potential is not having money ante 2 into death by boss blind is common with this

as it turns out scoring is needed in a game where its how you beat blinds

[restive egret]

what do I ditch, showman or vagabond?

[potent cairn]

showman early

before ante 8

[restive egret]

uhh, image isn't getting posted

[acoustic kettle]

Just post it

[potent cairn]

showman is mostly for endless though

[acoustic kettle]

Blowman

[hardy fable]

this is showman right

[floral mural]

its not even ante 6 obviously showman goes

[pulsar forge]

hold on

nevermind im like 20 minutes late lmao

idk but four fingers seemed pretty plausible aswell

[vocal rose]

whenever an 8 is played it has a 1 and 4 chance to create a tarot card

what does hanging chad do

[lunar zealot]

ello ello

what's good

we gettin ragebaited?

[vocal rose]

no

im just trying to lead them into the answer they’re looking for

[royal ore]

8ball doesn't trigger only once

it works on each individual trigger
like for each trigger of an 8, it has a 1/4 chance of creating a tarot card

[jolly relic]

im gonna do an 8 ball build

such an amazing joker

[vocal rose]

it’s fire

[dusk jay]

Why the fuck is nunholy more pirated then balatro

[jolly relic]

what is nunholy

[pulsar forge]

porn

[jolly relic]

oh

[pulsar forge]

yes

[glossy forge]

Canio on Abandoned

[jolly relic]

wow i JUST got canio too

[pulsar forge]

pretty sure

that thumbnail is sus as fuck

[vocal rose]

strength 10s

[pulsar forge]

pray for paraedolia ig but it's not that hard to get face cards

[jolly relic]

smeared joker works with ancient joker right

[vocal rose]

ur econ is sketch asf tho

[vocal rose]

yes

[jolly relic]

wow 8 ball!

[vocal rose]

but this has downsides too

[jolly relic]

like

[glossy forge]

My econ is truly sketch af

Depending on Riff Raff 😭

[vocal rose]

what’s the main downside of ancient joker?

boss counters

and what would smeared do

[jolly relic]

make the bosses worse

[vocal rose]

thats right

[jolly relic]

it doesnt really matter on white stake ante 2

[vocal rose]

that’s also true

[hard mantle]

agonizing

i have officially decided

fuck str8s

[jolly relic]

i might sell canio to use this judgement

🥰

runner or whatever its called

honestly better than canio

[quartz ember]

epic I like to do that as well

[willow frost]

? what do they mean by this

[vocal rose]

I believe they meant they love engaging in heterosexual activities

[willow frost]

oh thats not what i meant but nice

the fuck it just started snowing with no notice

[potent cairn]

does wheel of fortune do anything

[jolly relic]

it fortunes

[potent cairn]

the money trigger on a lucky card happens at least 4x more and thats 1 in 15

it cannot be 1 in 4 for the wheel

[jolly relic]

almost like its luck based

[hard mantle]

fuck it

we ball

glass card spam

[jolly relic]

what are those jokers

[weak shale]

its ggs

[willow frost]

dont ignore us what are those jokers

[solid tapir]

guys what happened to the color roles

[hard mantle]

feel like resetting that time wasnt even my fault

there was a lot of good cards but they were all cards that supported actual scoring cards

[solid tapir]

I'm on break

one gets tired of encountering clickers every minute

[hard mantle]

this game makes me want to put myself on the right side of a ceremonial dagger

[whole storm]

🫡

[jolly relic]

maybe im delusional but i think i maybe just deleted my red seal instead of copying it

no i turned it into a 6

🥰🥰

[exotic orchid]

I did it yesterday. Almost made me reset the game. I won at the end though lol.

Hang in there maybe you will find another one.

[jolly relic]

i just died

[exotic orchid]

F

[jolly relic]

i blame school

[exotic orchid]

We should have a time travel joker. That lets you go back to the previous shop and destroys itself in the process.

[hard mantle]

what is this fucking hand that i just pulled

this is with no discards

[exotic orchid]

We can finally pivot from entering into boss blinds without checking.

[exotic orchid]

Gg

[hard mantle]

i got a good feeling abt this run

[exotic orchid]

Pair spam build nice.

[hard mantle]

i usually have bad luck with em

but this time has been going well

[calm furnace]

is this enough xmult jokers?

[exotic orchid]

The eye is the next boss blind.

[hard mantle]

i dont know boss abilities by name

[calm furnace]

uhm

[exotic orchid]

Sometimes

[hard mantle]

FUCK

[exotic orchid]

Boss that restricts you from playing same hand type twice. You should watch out for both eyes and needle.

[hard mantle]

WAIT

wrong screenshot

FUCK

green stake is kicking our fucking ass

[exotic orchid]

You should be actively trying to not win in easier antes with this kind kg build. Spam pairs as much as you can. Use up all the discards to reduce scoring.

Ofc knowing how much you are scoring beforehand is important.

[hard mantle]

green joker required no discards

also: lay off me

i have 25 hours

[lunar zealot]

ello ello

[exotic orchid]

Just chatting. Didn't think you would take it offensively. Sorry. I won't comment.

[calm furnace]

everyone is foil

[hard mantle]

okay i apologize actually

i read that as you being snarky about me losing

[exotic orchid]

Nah. I love chatting strategies with people.

[solid tapir]

sorry boss, no sauce

[hard mantle]

fwiw i have a tendency to skip words in sentences

it just so happened that it resulted in your sentence having a different meaning

still, sorry

[exotic orchid]

Also yeah you are right. Green joker would get weaker. Didn't think about that.

Yeah don't use discards then. But I spam 2s and 3s so i can increase the +mult cards in future.

[hard mantle]

i can identify the issue as a lack of scaling

i think i should have prioritized finding another xmult card

[exotic orchid]

Ye. X3 is not enough for pairs. It can be with goood chip source though. Like the sq joker.

[quartz ember]

or a less finicky chips joker, but that doesnt come around that often and banner was a completely fair pick for you

there could be also a problem of not enough econ to buy enough packs? which we dont know about

[hard mantle]

i was running a surplus

just wasnt getting many packs

[jolly relic]

if i copy a disabled card the copy also gets disabled too right

[exotic orchid]

Yeah

If you copy a card forced up by cerulean bell it also gets stuck lol.

[jolly relic]

why cant i find photo

💔

[uneven wolf]

should i replace photograph with chad?

[calm furnace]

sad death

nvm

drunkard clutched

[quartz ember]

remember that all packs are useful