🕹・game-discussion

[exotic orchid]

Couldn't find any red seals?

[vocal rose]

no

[exotic orchid]

Draw madness.

[hard mantle]

bet

[fervent wolf]

Nah

[umbral surge]

are glass cards worth it?

[fervent wolf]

Yes

[exotic orchid]

Glass cards are insurance

When you know you fucked up and can't score enough. Glass cards come to rescue.

[fervent wolf]

Glass and retrigger allows me to score e with only 5s

[hard mantle]

high card is best card

[manic zealot]

I love high card

High card my beloved

[fervent wolf]

Agreed

[manic zealot]

That deck is lowkey hard (big)

[exotic orchid]

That deck will come out of screen 😆

Imagine going to a casino with a 1000 deck cards all made of gold.

[viscid mango]

damn only ante 3

[vagrant prawn]

yo

any way to solve this?

the pack wont open so i cant do anything

:/

[molten thicket]

softlocked

i think theres a mod to fix this

[vagrant prawn]

dang

thx

im gonna start a new run ig

:p

[marsh goblet]

so close to c+

just orange stake and gold stake to go on some decks

[hard mantle]

gonna red stake on yellow deck wish me luck

[umbral surge]

how does destroying cards work?

[acoustic kettle]

The cards are destroyed

[gentle island]

I always play the most random garbage and it works

orange stake

[marsh goblet]

took a random tarot cuz i got perkeo. guess we doin diamonds now

[hard mantle]

the game is begging me to do it

game had better plans

[fervent wolf]

The humble window: 🪟

[brazen island]

I feel like there should be a fifth edition for money

Like ‘earn $1 each time this joker is triggered’

Or something

Or even just ‘earn $5 at end of round’

[fervent wolf]

Golden edition jokers: +$5 dollars at the end of a round

[acoustic kettle]

Lucky cards

[brazen island]

Edition, not enhancement

[acoustic kettle]

Lucky cards and gold cards exist

[brazen island]

Edition

[acoustic kettle]

The money gen will be even easier with another

[brazen island]

Edition

Not enhancement

For jokers

Like foil

[fervent wolf]

Peak money farming

[brazen island]

Or holographic

[hard mantle]

ah well

life goes on

[valid ether]

Average Balatro

[hard mantle]

damn

tried to build around flower pot

[acoustic kettle]

Flower pot is a straight joker

[valid ether]

That joker I feel is equally punishing as it has potential to be fun

[acoustic kettle]

[valid ether]

straight farming is also rewarding and punishing at the same time

lots of balatro is just some pain and then number go up

[hard mantle]

feels so weird being back with a regular deck now

after so many weird decks

[lavish ridge]

i hate the erratic deck

[molten thicket]

balatro balatrez

i like this game

and who said to not take dna

[dull sapphire]

any reason why you didn't keep the order?

oh wait you're on black deck instead of abandoned?

[hard mantle]

man i love when the game only gives me pair jokers but refuses to give me any celestial or tarot cards that would help pairs at all

-# i just restarted

[lavish ridge]

this feels worse than being poor irl

[marsh goblet]

CANIO SAVED THE DAY!

i would have been so cooked without canio

also damn obelisk is way easier to use than i thought

i just played a bunch of pairs in ante 3

[hard mantle]

</3

[marsh goblet]

i hit 20 pairs and i was like "god dammit im gonna die soon i have to play real hands"

[hard mantle]

i went from scoring 7 mil in one hand to having a skill issue

[marsh goblet]

never ran out of real hands somehow

grimbo was my tiny source of mult

i had no chips we just balled

[hard mantle]

eugh... do mods prevent achievements

i want to change the name of one of the jokers because i have a severe problem with it

just killed a run because seeing it killed my desire to play

[manic zealot]

I had to face the plant

I got very lucky, an erosion and a baseball card showed up just in time

[manic zealot]

I don’t think so

[hard mantle]

awesome

im going to mod zany joker until its an unrecognizable mess

[valid ether]

I am so sad

I just went to check for my next stake (I finished black stake on ghost earlier) and I... I don't have the next one

Idk why. Got to ante 12ish and I must do it again. I guess its fine. Oh no, play more card game!

[stiff ore]

found my first invisible joker

[minor portal]

where is it

[stiff ore]

lol

might not get to use it though

[civic sierra]

Why are there so many people who are utterly convinced Hex only adds +1 sell value to jokers?

It adds 2, unless discount vouchers/rentals shenanigans

Like did someone reliable accidentally spread it around?

I saw an entire comment thread absolutely gaslighting a guy in Roffle's comments who was letting Roffle know he could've hexed a joker for extra temperance value instead of selling the hex

because it "only adds +1 sell value"

when that's not even true

It feels like I'm in some bizzaro world reading how utterly convinced some of these people are they're calling out an idiot

When they're spreading blatant misinformation

[delicate tide]

Wiat I thought it was like .5 tho

[civic sierra]

Polychrome adds +5 base price to a joker

sell value is half joker value, rounded down

Rentals are unaffected by Polychrome

[delicate tide]

Ok bait is not that obvious

[minor portal]

try again

[delicate tide]

Cmon it’s obv .5$

[minor portal]

it might be thirty dollars

if you think about it

[civic sierra]

Okay but I'm serious tho, who spread that around?

[delicate tide]

Idk lol

Me 🙋‍♂️

[minor portal]

I don't know, but Mr. Information will be displeased

[delicate tide]

That’s for real

[civic sierra]

Guys chill, I'm just upset cause these ppl are acting so fucking smug about it

like they're just wrong

but they are basically gaslighting the dude

[delicate tide]

Ok but also like he can go in game and check

[karmic skiff]

bro how do you do jokerless 😭

[civic sierra]

i mean yeah

[delicate tide]

Blue seal

[minor portal]

planets

[karmic skiff]

yes

[minor portal]

Hope this helps.

[delicate tide]

So like I feel like I’d just continue to arguement for funny reasons

[karmic skiff]

wow

thanks

i just beat it

ty man 😼

[minor portal]

you're welcome fr

[delicate tide]

I beat it with straights and blue seals

[civic sierra]

aggressive deck fixing 4oak build
blue seal/constellation saturn build
Glass is an asset in antes 5/6+

[karmic skiff]

really straights?

i also go 4 of kind

[delicate tide]

Early game focus on like a few planet levels for early coasting

[karmic skiff]

and its also so stupid boss that kills me

[minor portal]

the purple one

[civic sierra]

4oak is a gambit, it works out if you get the right tarots early for good deck fixing, and happens to see some mars along the way

[delicate tide]

I was kind of a tweaker when I beat it I’m much better at the game now I’d prob do 4oak or straight

Also like I’ve just gotten good at 4oak builds from my no uncommons c+

[civic sierra]

Straight is reliable for jokerless but also can get scary in some boss blinds

[delicate tide]

Straights are still great early

[civic sierra]

You'll need glass for ante 8 for sure, 50/50 chance of it being violent vessel

[delicate tide]

4oak is just slightly risky with draws but it’s white stake pivots are easier

And building into it you have more time

[karmic skiff]

usually (ive done like 30 runs and like 4 of them go to ante 6+) i go flush early then strength for 4 of kinds

[civic sierra]

Cerulean Bell can tear your straight build apart if you're unlucky enough

[delicate tide]

I got the bell I think

[karmic skiff]

wait what is you get the one where it debuffs until you sell one joker?

[civic sierra]

yeah bell usually works out with me but I've had it force me to discard all my middle cards before

(since i needed to see more of my deck)

[civic sierra]

can't show up

None of the ones that interact with jokers can be in ante 8 on jokerless

[karmic skiff]

oh good

[civic sierra]

no crimson, no amber, no verdant

[delicate tide]

Bell or vessel

[marsh goblet]

chat i think im becoming a balatro god

i feel so smart rn

[civic sierra]

c++?

[delicate tide]

I recognize that ign

There’s still people here from like July

[marsh goblet]

no i just won a few high stake runs back to back

[delicate tide]

You were getting grilled for your opinion on delayed gratification!!

[marsh goblet]

i had to pivot to a vagabond to get a driver's license online

[delicate tide]

Streaking is prob the hardest thing to do in the game imo

That’s fire

[marsh goblet]

it's while im trying to get c+ too

[civic sierra]

delayed gratification hits different after the funny blue stake modifier tho frfr

[formal abyss]

dl my beloved

[delicate tide]

Best Econ

Trust

[marsh goblet]

yeah i yap in here pretty much every time i play balatro. i recognize u as well

[civic sierra]

I once bought an eternal burglar while I had an eternal grat

it was just the play at the time, idk what else to say

[marsh goblet]

that's fair

burglar is op

the question is tho

why did u take eternal delgrat in the first place

[formal abyss]

post blue stake idk why youd take eternal delgrat

[marsh goblet]

yeah delgrat is an "i guess" joker

[civic sierra]

money

[marsh goblet]

i guess i won't discard for 4 bucks

[civic sierra]

tried sending the mr krabs gif but can't send gifs here

[karmic skiff]

and also jokerless is so punishing for bad rng omg, i keep bottom decking my 4 of a kinds

pmo

[delicate tide]

Woo I just haven’t been like active here since like august cause I js did all I wanted to

I got bored of the game a bit

[formal abyss]

silksomg

[civic sierra]

the trick is to have two sets of 4oaks because you don't get enough strength targets for your main one

[marsh goblet]

yeah forcing you to play larger hands to survive sucks

[civic sierra]

ngl Dr. Spectre's high card jokerless run was legendary

it required an insane seed but holy

[delicate tide]

You could also try straights

[marsh goblet]

HE DID WHAT!?

[civic sierra]

Holo red seal stone card in card pack

[delicate tide]

Idk easier to do early so easier to build into

[marsh goblet]

oh my god

[karmic skiff]

i kinda just dont like straights

i like never once built into a straight build like for anything

[civic sierra]

you just clip the ends off your deck mainly

rip aces and twos, then kings and threes, etc.

[marsh goblet]

or if you have superposition and wanna maximize it's value you can do a weird move and cut middle cards

that's worked for me before

[worn meteor]

if you're not playing jonklerless then you can just use shortcut as well

[karmic skiff]

ye but would it not be easier to clip low cards and go for full houses or smth like always

[civic sierra]

but only do that if you like gambling with your draw (at least early on)

[worn meteor]

straight scaling is so good that it doesn't need all 5 joker slots

[civic sierra]

full houses only gain +5 more chips more than Flushes in planet cards

not even more mult

[karmic skiff]

mm

[marsh goblet]

yeah full house scaling is so ass

[karmic skiff]

i mean like i thought it was easier to create a consist build with

[hard mantle]

lesbian scaling when

[civic sierra]

(someone should double check this it might be 10 more, but still)

idk i never use earth)

[hard mantle]

high card scaling

[candid niche]

world's greatest riffraff

[marsh goblet]

high card scaling is also ass

[civic sierra]

high card scaling 😔
high card jokers

[hard mantle]

high card best card

[civic sierra]

(compared to full house)

[worn meteor]

if you're every considering full house know that 3oak is literally only 5 chips less

[hard mantle]

what is 3oak

im bad at acronyms

[candid niche]

dude riffraff is popping off

[left pelican]

I got a polychrome baron from a tag, midas mask AND golden ticket, and I still f'd it up

[left pelican]

3 of a kind

[marsh goblet]

3 of a kind

[civic sierra]

ngl gang idk why the peeps who try to pull off baron on high stakes insist on it being high card, pair is still buildable with baron

[hard mantle]

OH

i see

[hard mantle]

pluto is my girl

i love pluto

[left pelican]

According to roman mythology, Pluto is a guy 🤓

[hard mantle]

the romans were stupid

[marsh goblet]

yeah on high stakes there's not really any reason to play high card over pair unless your deck is complete chaos and u can't garantee a pair every hand for some reason

[hard mantle]

its about sending a message

also its kind of just nice to not even think abt what cards you pull

[marsh goblet]

that's true

but 1 less base mult and the much worse chips scaling can REALLY be felt in high card, especially early

also it sets up worse for obelisk n stuff

[hard mantle]

true, but with a little luck it stops matter later

mattering

[civic sierra]

is it weird if my only remaining non gold stake decks are magic and anaglyph

[hard mantle]

sorry im tired

[civic sierra]

they're just so

[marsh goblet]

any hand is good with enough planet cards and a good deck

[civic sierra]

boring

[hard mantle]

except full house

just play 3oak or pair

[delicate tide]

Magic and boring 😔

[civic sierra]

mfw I do a funny run trying to make full house work and deck fix towards it only to keep drawing 4/5oaks instead

[marsh goblet]

magic deck is funny

[civic sierra]

magic deck is just:

haha consumable

[marsh goblet]

yeah but it's nice

u can make 3 copies of 1 card

or get 60 bucks

[hard mantle]

no balatro tomorrow

[marsh goblet]

60 bucks!

[hard mantle]

gonna be visiting friends

[civic sierra]

but funny ghost deck immolate

in the shop

burn it all down

[marsh goblet]

i don't remember the last time i found immolate in the shop

i feel like spectral cards almost never show up in the shop for me 😭

[left pelican]

how do you even do a full house build

[marsh goblet]

besides talisman for some reason

[civic sierra]

gotta hold spectrals in your slots to filter

[marsh goblet]

that guy appears a lot

[civic sierra]

talisman goated

[marsh goblet]

indeed

[civic sierra]

fix towards two ranks

but you just end up drawing a lot of one of them

[left pelican]

how am i so bad i threw a game with shop 1 polychrome baron FOR FREE

[queen kindle]

using death with cerulean bell also forces the new card to be held right

[marsh goblet]

the thing is tho in a lot of my recent runs i can't do this at all because i just end up with too many planets and tarots i want to hold onto or i just have too many blue and purple seals

[civic sierra]

i think only if the forced card was the copy target iirc

[marsh goblet]

this is why crystal ball is goated

[marsh goblet]

yes

[civic sierra]

but the forced card keeps the force after being converted

[left pelican]

is there any other way to deck fix other than death, hanged man and immolate probably

[marsh goblet]

trading card

[civic sierra]

strength

[marsh goblet]

and uhhh

strength

[delicate tide]

Strength

[civic sierra]

card packs

cryptid

[left pelican]

OH YEAH i forgot about those

[civic sierra]

justice

[delicate tide]

Also more drawing power makes you need less fixing

[civic sierra]

Also

don't forget stone

if your deck fixing is for idol

stone also lets you keep purple seals of unwanted ranks

stone is also generally good for stuff like the house

cause stone cards are always on the right

so you're more likely to be tossing rocks away if you discard right side

anyways it's 4am and I'm hyperactive and need to somehow fall asleep aa

[willow plaza]

should i go for the holo cavendish here? i might be able to get 9 more planet cards (im on ante 6 small blind defeated)

[civic sierra]

"my steak too buttery" type question

but seriously tho, keep your current setup

although idk why you took sock, unless you didn't have the chad before that

[willow plaza]

i think i did get sock after chad

extra x2 is good no?

[quartz ember]

well its still x4 even if its not the best thing to have eternal

[civic sierra]

I'd probably have tried to keep that joker slot empty in case of a surprise ambush plant

[quartz ember]

well you can just sell conste

[civic sierra]

so i can find an alternate solution to win

[quartz ember]

ohh

[civic sierra]

no you cannot

brainstorm consta is big score

[quartz ember]

you mean like that

[willow plaza]

boss blind is mouth and my pair is level 6 already

so im fine

[candid niche]

we get a little silly

high card gaming

[civic sierra]

mouth is only one hand type, right?

[willow plaza]

yes

[quartz ember]

either way glass is fine I was gonna say, but if you dont have planet levels then its not fine

[willow plaza]

im not taking the cavendish then

[civic sierra]

yeah no need for caven

constellation will catch up to 3x soon enough

and no need to add that 1/1000 chance of getting screwed

I've lost two cavendishes so far

also the other reason I wouldn't have bought the sock is Verdant leaf

cause id have to sell the constellation then

unless it was big enough to win alone with brainstorm

[willow plaza]

phew!!! ante 7 boss is the needle

im fine

[civic sierra]

unless you don't draw a pair

of face cards

(real)

[candid niche]

what do i want to get rid of here

invis is ready to copy

[quartz ember]

you would be fine either way if you have a justice

[candid niche]

holo is at 6.75x

[quartz ember]

spaceman maybe nothing else

[candid niche]

i have a level 22 high card thanks to blue seals and copying spoker

[civic sierra]

spaceman, depending on hand levels probably the swash too, but if you aren't comfortable yet I'd actually just hold onto the invisible for a while

definitely gift card if you're committing to the sell tho

[candid niche]

hmmm

[civic sierra]

I'd probably hold invis here till I feel comfortable with hand levels

but up to you

[candid niche]

i mean level 22 is ok for right now right

[civic sierra]

Also gift card is making the invis sell stronger each round

[candid niche]

true....

[civic sierra]

okay yeah burn it all down

[candid niche]

i'll hang on to invis then

[quartz ember]

I'm assuming swash is like 150?

[civic sierra]

rip the invis

[candid niche]

only 80, actually

gift card came in late

[civic sierra]

delete swash, space, gift first

[quartz ember]

oh then its not so bad to sell those

[candid niche]

we doing mitosis

[civic sierra]

if you're already past ante 8 and have good hand levels, you need more x mult more than anything here

so the swash isn't gonna serve you that well later on

[quartz ember]

unfortunate

[willow plaza]

ruh roh the boss is cerulean bell

what if it keeps not selecting my face card

[civic sierra]

worst hit, but it's not that bad, scales harder

[civic sierra]

then play that card with two face cards, wasn't it a pair build?

[willow plaza]

oh yeahh i forgot

i can just play unnecessary cards

[candid niche]

idk if i should target my blue seals or my gold cards with DNA

[civic sierra]

yeah always be doing that, even when the boss doesn't demand it

it's basically a free partial discard

[willow plaza]

my constellation is now at 3x

id like to thank the people

[quartz ember]

depends how much of each you have but why os your blue seal not gold/steel

[civic sierra]

gold cards imo, but you want to grab a chariot/devil for your blue seals asap

[candid niche]

yeah ive been digging deep into the shop in search of ores

[civic sierra]

just realized my server profile name is outdated

[willow plaza]

wait can a lucky card be a bonus card at the same time

[errant topaz]

no

[willow plaza]

oh

[errant topaz]

my condolences 😔

[civic sierra]

ok done

[willow plaza]

your condolences

[civic sierra]

only editions can stack with modifications

[candid niche]

yah i really need steel

[civic sierra]

(such as Foil/Polychrome)

[willow plaza]

what a close game lads

[civic sierra]

glass it (frfr)

[willow plaza]

chad it as well

lets gooo

[candid niche]

i found a steel card

we're fine

[willow plaza]

almost lost!!!!!!! id like to thank the people

[distant vault]

Bro

Trib does not help

Damn...

[errant topaz]

no hand levels?

[willow plaza]

my first ever legendary was a chicot

and ive never gotten another legendary ever

to today

[candid niche]

....cert is bait, right?

fuck it, we bal atros

[quartz ember]

you wanted to be copying photo btw

[errant topaz]

notwith the glass i don't think

[willow plaza]

whaz???

[candid niche]

....i forgot it was Needle

[quartz ember]

there was no glass

[candid niche]

thats a little ridiculous

we pivoted from giftbuckler to mitosis

[quartz ember]

well you were getting 6 triggers of 1 photograph, when you could have been getting 4 triggers of 2 photographs

[willow plaza]

chat is this the meta?

[errant topaz]

honestly its not terrible

[quartz ember]

(btw if you have 1 glass either way works, if 2 then copying chad or sock is better)

[candid niche]

nat neg bootstraps on green deck

....this is either gonna be good or be awful

[distant vault]

I died

Thanks trib

[candid niche]

idk green deck much

[distant vault]

Me neither

[gray plaza]

GOD DAMN IT ALL

[errant topaz]

ouch 😭

[gray plaza]

I got the seed so I'll run it back on Plasma white stake

[candid niche]

....what an amazing spectral pack...

[gray plaza]

No fucking way

[hollow nymph]

What do I do?

[errant topaz]

WOW

[gray plaza]

THIS SHIT WAS RENTAL PERISHABLE ON GOLD STAKE

THERE'S A PHOTO IN SHOP

[errant topaz]

theoretically could perkeoless ante39 with that strong a start

[hollow nymph]

What do I do?

[vocal rose]

show more context PLEASE

[candid niche]

pair

[willow plaza]

ante 13 has a glaring issue

i mean 12

ante 12

[hollow nymph]

@vocal rose y-you just gonna ask for more context n disappear?

HELP MEEEEEEE IDK WHAT TO DOOOOOOO

[willow plaza]

guys what joker is this

[hollow nymph]

Stone joker

[willow plaza]

ok

[eternal pumice]

Burnana

[candid niche]

cut golden or dusk

[heavy hare]

cut golden or dusk

[distant salmon]

cut golden or dusk

[hollow nymph]

Dusk gotta go

I think I should cut golden or dusk

Based on the three people telling me

[heavy hare]

Burnana\

[hollow nymph]

Just a small hunch

[distant salmon]

cut tribolet

[hollow nymph]

Burnana

[eternal pumice]

I have been drawing for the past 8 hours

[heavy hare]

Burnana

[eternal pumice]

I should probably go to sleep now

[heavy hare]

drawing burnana?

[heavy hare]

unacceptable. spend another 8 hours drawinmg burnana

[eternal pumice]

: (

[heavy hare]

(fr tho u shoulfd sleep its like important and stuff)

drawing looks rly good btw

[eternal pumice]

Yea Ik

[heavy hare]

van gogh

[eternal pumice]

Yea it’s that one Van Gogh painting

I remade it in my own way cause I was bored

[candid niche]

ok who dies

spoker

definitely

[shell rock]

yeah probably spacoker

[distant salmon]

blueprint defo

[shell rock]

noooo keep the yuri

[candid niche]

man, if only i could find Duo

card sharp isnt doing much

[shell rock]

why did you delete that message

i watch multiplayer but i don't play it-

[candid niche]

this bootstraps sucks so bad

[wary zodiac]

WHAT THE FUCK

IM GONNA THROW THIS SO HARD 😭 😭 😭

[hollow nymph]

It's been an honor, golden ticket...

[candid niche]

well, we tried

we got like level 60 something pair

[shell rock]

why would you throw this run?

it looks pretty good lowk

[exotic orchid]

Theres a joker in extra credit mods that gives xmult instead of +mult. Bootstrap should have been that lol. Much better value.

[candid niche]

it was on green deck. i should have sold it early

[hollow nymph]

The "lowk" is from the eternal trio

Bro this is the third fucking one

[shell rock]

-# believe it or not i did not look at the stickers-

[hollow nymph]

JIMBO, GIVE ME AN ECTOPLASM AND MY WALLET, IS YOURS

[candid niche]

wrong. mine now

[shell rock]

can i have your wallet

if you get an ectoplasm in the next spectral

[candid niche]

alright how accurate is this

[sinful meteor]

???

[candid niche]

Perkeo is the weird uncle
Triboulet and Yorick are the cool uncles
Canio is the divorced uncle
Chicot is the uncle fresh out of prison

[shell rock]

chicot is rumored to have injured 25 people, and to have almost killed one guy who goes by "The Plant."

[lyric wave]

just got an investment tag, instant hermit from shop, opened mega arcana pack into hermit + emperor which also gave me hermit right after ante 1 boss ;-;

[hollow nymph]

Jimbo ilysm

[exotic orchid]

Chicot is literally geralt of rivia. Killing monsters.

[hollow nymph]

Beautiful run

[wary zodiac]

i threw the run :)

i suck at the game

man

why didn't i do a white stake run

[exotic orchid]

If you found a death this would have been a auto win.

[covert storm]

Always wanted to a money joker build. But any advices, should I sell the abstract joker, or photo

[hybrid tendon]

Haiiii

[covert storm]

Would buying this be smart

[slow iris]

https://www.balatrostats.com/

[unreal iron]

no absolutely not

[covert storm]

Oh

How do you guys deck build

[covert storm]

I had like 4 glass heart kings and they all popped 🥲

[simple jacinth]

is this what the kids these days call ||aura farming||

I lost the run 🙁

[hollow ferry]

why are you making glass cards tho

you should be making gold or lucky cards lowk

[covert storm]

Do you mind explaining what card would be better for what situation. I assumed glass card was always the way to go because of a higher score

[hollow ferry]

yeah you get more scoring with glass cards but if you dont need the extra scoring the glass cards give you shouldnt make glass cards

[covert storm]

Ahh thank you

Last question I feel like I suck as deck building. I only get a shit ton of cards I want when I only have the DNA card, other wise I’m out of luck. Also I did have a decent amount of money.

[hollow ferry]

for deckbuilding you can use a lot of cards
hanged man and death helps you remove cards and make other cards
jokers like sixth sense and trading card destroy cards and give you something (spectral card and $3 respectively)

also you dont need to have a fully fixed deck to win

[tender bone]

I genuinely hope the plant fucking kills itself

Don’t stop global warming

Burn the forests

[hollow ferry]

can you not send gifs

???

[bright maple]

it’s considered a link so no

[hollow ferry]

thats stupid ngl

[hidden lance]

this was my full glass hand lol

[latent egret]

you dont need lots of cards

[mossy finch]

lost by fukin' 38 chips in ante 8😭

[wicked sequoia]

Satisfaction

[left sorrel]

A difference between PS4 Balatro and PC balatro is that for some reason in the GAME OVER/YOU WIN! screen, for some reason, theres no trasparency in the back, so you cant see the jokers, score etc unless you go endles
Anyone knows more differences?

[pale wolf]

shoulda sold tcard

tbh

[wicked sequoia]

I mean

if I could

sure

[left sorrel]

138* chips

[pale wolf]

aaaah sticker blends in so well

my b

[wicked sequoia]

it's ok I love trading card

Even as a rental eternal I'll take it ❤️

[cloud sinew]

you can use a keyboard as an input device for the actual game on every platform except on Switch; on switch you can only use a keyboard for text input, so inputting seeds and naming your profile, but you can't use it to play the game

[distant thunder]

YIPEE FIRST GOLD STAKE WIN

[hollow ferry]

what happened to your fifth joker

[distant thunder]

using madness

[hollow ferry]

ah

[distant thunder]

x10 mult now 🔥

[vapid grail]

how photocard even works

does it 2x the CURRENT mult, or it makes any gained mult during this hand double

[acoustic kettle]

Current mult

Usually it is the base mult of your hand

Except if you have smiley or make it enhanced

[vapid grail]

dude

then how the fuck its good

its dogshit then

[hollow ferry]

?

[shadow shore]

Omg wtf non seeded

[mortal nimbus]

it's easily retriggerable, hanging chad is the main one that comboes with photograph, as chad turns it from a 2x into an 8x (while also retriggering anything else that face card would trigger, like smiley, already existing enhancements, etc)

planets are something you should already be inclined to take, they are just generally good (take the ones that actively/could help you), and these make photograph much better

it's by no means the best joker, but it is cheap and relatively effective xmult (which requires you to put some effort in)

[naive heath]

gang should i sell chicot to buy vagabond

[vapid grail]

photocard + chad.
0 x2 x2 x2 = 0 mult

absolute cinema

[mortal nimbus]

crazy how you actually can't start with 0 mult anymore

maybe try a different bad faith argument

keep in mind that I am not saying photograph is actually good, just that it doesn't suck

[vapid grail]

i still dont like it

at all

if only it gave x2 for whole hand

[mortal nimbus]

yeah, in a vacuum it's worse than all other xmults

except maybe bloodstone

fortunately for us, there are more things in balatro

[shadow shore]

Its a common card

[vapid grail]

ppl glaze it too much

[mortal nimbus]

card rarity isn't really the best indicator of how strong a card can be

The Tribe is rare and it's really underwhelming, Mail-In Rebate is genuinely one of the best jokers in the game

[unreal iron]

tarot generation

theres an art to deckbuilding you have to learn

things like trading card and dna are amazing at deck fixing (removing and duplicating cards)

hanged man, death and fool are also extremely useful when those 2 jokers dont appear anywhere

you can also deckfix with justice and immolate

it just needs tons of setup if you plan on going after ante 8, usually you just need enough deckfixing to consistently draw pairs or higher ranking hands to win a standard run

[shadow shore]

Its only good with hanging chad

[wicked warren]

such a mood killer boss

don’t mind the joker line up

i needed that sly to win early

hologram also never showed up

[silk cobalt]

The pain

[lofty ferry]

Every Ante 1 Round lol 😂

[silk cobalt]

If only I'm using Yellow deck XD

[mortal needle]

A friend of mine bought balatro on christmas and I told him to get it on his phone as well so he can game during breaks and he was like "No I'll just play on my PC" and then a few days later he hits me up like "Hey wanna call? I'm gambling on balatro"

I feel proud of myself

[lofty ferry]

Unfortunately my friends don't like Balatro like me. No matter how many times I tried to teach them.
So you can be proud of yourself xD

[silk cobalt]

Sell supernova right?

Also which Joker is best to copy atp?

Let's see where can this end up

[hollow ferry]

ccitbp…

[mortal needle]

Thank you, riff-raff! Super awesome!

[silk cobalt]

Riff raff can generate different edition jokers? That's new to me

[silk cobalt]

Sorry, I dunno wut that means...

[mortal needle]

Ohhh it's one of THESE runs...

[shell dagger]

With 3 holos, fortune teller almost feels competent

[ancient gyro]

all of my runs for the past couple of months have been on black deck gs

[serene forge]

[ancient gyro]

I don't remember seeing the order on that run

I only shared that seed since it was deceptively hard on black

[sweet girder]

i feel like i am playing the same seed every game xD

[sweet girder]

get out of my head get out of my head

[pine swift]

All this but not a single mime 😢😢

[sweet girder]

bruhhh

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[valid ether]

The games just begging you for a baron build

[sweet girder]

yeah, in this one game i saw baron 4 times in 11 antes

[valid ether]

just a crumb of baron ☝️

[misty karma]

nah cause this is like the 4th run my friend has ever done and he gets ts wtf

oh my days

[sweet girder]

willy joker for the three of a kind of ancient jokers

[misty karma]

and then he replaces showman for ancient joker and then keeps fibonacci?

[misty karma]

damn fr

[sweet girder]

i had once a straight flush wild cards ancient joker build but without any retriggers ancient joker was weaker than my constellation

i had eternal baseball card and eternal rough gem so in endless i ended up having pretty much just 2 scoring jokers and an open slot

[misty karma]

and hes cooked

[misty karma]

which ones rough gem again

[sweet girder]

$1 for every diamond card scored

[misty karma]

ahh

im still yet to beat gold stake ive done too much modded and now im ahh

[sweet girder]

i actually like gold stake more than white stake as it can force unusual builds just to beat ante 8

had a fun Three of a kind, Ancient joker, Dusk build once

[compact bay]

Guess what happened today?

[spark kernel]

Purple stake in balatro made me go insane

[sweet girder]

maybe in 2029 balatro will get an update 🫃

[raw schooner]

used a mod to start a run with 10 negative copies of chicot and 1e307 planet levels for every hand so i could just smooch by every ante and it turns out that having multiple copies of Chicot on ante 39 The Wall doesn't do anything. heart breaking

Shocking! Infinity / 531,441 = Infinity

[cloud sinew]

Its not because of the Infinity component, it's about NaN.
Any checks/calculations you do with NaN either returns NaN or 0/false. NaN÷2 is still NaN

[shell dagger]

once you go nan there’s no goin back

[cloud sinew]

:3

[serene forge]

my gf played cryptid once and died in ante 11 because she had an exponential joker and scored negative not a number

[raw schooner]

capped scoring on cryptid 💔

[mortal needle]

Damn, just a lil short of the blind

Still good run

[raw schooner]

having high card level 1e308 is not enough points to beat ante 1 boss blind btw, incase anyone was curious

[raw schooner]

i love stupid little baron mime runs

i've been fighting for my life to get naneinf but i always end up a voucher or 2 short

i'll get blank, antimatter, and director's cut, but never retcon; or i'll get blank, director's cut, and retcon, but never antimatter

[mortal needle]

It was a perkeo run as well

[raw schooner]

holy huge

[mortal needle]

Prolly could've survived if I got a blueprint. Only had a brainstorm

[raw schooner]

observatory + baron is crazy sauce

i see the $7 you had as well, frantically rolled down until the very last moment 😭

[mortal needle]

Mime, Baron, DNA, Perkeo, Nat-neagtive Drunkard, Brainstorm, and a Nat-negative boot thingy idk what it's called

[mortal needle]

I had 207 to my name

[dim elk]

how do i get over ante 12? cuz i only was ever able to beat the small blind using bloodstone, photochad, and sock and buskin in one run

[mortal needle]

I never look at the ante tbh

[shell dagger]

Glass cards

[mortal needle]

I just check the boss blind and either go "FUUUUUUUUUUCK" or "Yeah, bit annoying, I'm surviving tho"

[dim elk]

yeah me too, but then i realize i need to score 300 MILLION CHIPS

[mortal needle]

I mean I just main plasma deck so I just hope for like early chip bonus

[raw schooner]

a lot of high-score runs will take advantage of either idol, sock/hack/dusk/seltzer(if you're psychotic), and blueprint(s) / brainstorm(s) + polychrome glass cards w/ red seals, or baron, mime, blueprint(s) / brainstorm(s) + steel king cards w/ red seals

[mortal needle]

So I can just farm high card as most played hand so I can hopefully get early telescope

Otherwise I just go for what the shop gives

[shell dagger]

telescope is pretty irrelevant for getting high scores

[mortal needle]

Afaik, you can beat the base game with any joker as long as you know what you're doing

[shell dagger]

planet cards just don’t really matter after 20 or so

[mortal needle]

I'm talking about early game

[shell dagger]

then there are many better ways to get points than relying on a specific voucher

[raw schooner]

blue seals and purple seals are very nice for early game

[tranquil cedar]

i love how balatro's infinite mode goes from "oooo you have to score some more chips oooo 👻 " to "please generate more chips than stars in the universe"

[raw schooner]

when i'm playing for a high score on plasma deck, i typically don't buy a joker until ante 2 because you can beat the first 4 blinds pretty consistently without them, then i prioritize chips and econ while focusing on deck fixing primarily

unless i get the revolutionary stuntman start

[dim elk]

like the jump between ante 11 and 12 is OBSCENE

[raw schooner]

🧟 yes jimbo, i will make more chips than there are grains of sand 🧟

[serene forge]

observatory is very useless for endless unless you have perkeo

2 or 3 instances of 1.5x is not doing anything

[gloomy swallow]

3 more gold staked! (Walkie Talkie, Merry Andy, Shortcut)

[thorny axle]

any tips for the speedrunner achivement?

[shell dagger]

plasma deck

[dim elk]

i used the checkered deck, did it first try

[raw schooner]

i got speedrunner by using the Magic deck (or whichever one spawns you with 2 fool cards) and resetting my runs until i got the Charm Tag (arcana pack) as my first skip, then checked for judgement and, if present, used said judgement and copied it with my 2 fools for a quick jump in jokers, then pretty much did a full skip run. ideal circumstances call for a scaling chips, scaling +mult, and scaling Xmult joker, but i can't imagine it's the quickest or easiest method for attaining the achievement

[white forge]

Negative ticket into this deck

[thorny axle]

yeah magic deck is hat one

[dim elk]

btw gng

got this at ante 3

[raw schooner]

you could also realistically get like a +mult or chips joker and an econ joker or 2 and play out the big blind ante 1 to get a bit more money going into the boss blind, then try to find some better jokers there, and skip as needed to win

[raw schooner]

absurd quantities of getting away with it

i had a seed where i was printing money with a golden ticket but unfortunately had to sacrifice it to improve my scoring with some sort of good joker i found like sock or whatever, then on my very next roll ended up getting a nat negative ticket. my partner was confused why i was celebrating so much

[serene forge]

plasma deck white stake

should be easy if you find decent chips early on

you can play about four rounds before having to full skip

[distant thunder]

i just had two lucky cards give me 40$

no oops all 6s ;-;

[raw schooner]

you will never get a lucky proc again

[distant thunder]

yup

[noble elk]

Anyone got any advice for the cruelty challenge, this is where I'm sitting rn

[serene forge]

I think try to look for xmult over the trading card

[noble elk]

I burned a bunch of money and now I've got this

Only problem is I made a few of my cards diamond because I had diamond joker earlier

Oh also how do wild cards work with blackboard?

[gloomy swallow]

Current tierlist, Trib and Rocket were both upped a tier for the most recent run

[noble elk]

I took a huge break from the game and now that I've come back all of my decks are around purple-gold stake but I can't remember how to play properly lol

[noble elk]

Obelisk seems so high

[gloomy swallow]

Trust me, it knows how to be a goat and synergizes with more jokers than you would imagine

it's just something that pops up in the middle of your run and you decide if it's mid game enough to be able to pick it up and successfully build it up

you wouldn't believe how much stuff it synergizes with

Green joker, Burglar, DNA, and so many more jokers

[noble elk]

Interesting

[gloomy swallow]

it scales easily***

*provided you have been playing the same hand for a long time many times

** have a good source of Econ during that time so you don't rely on hand money

*** between other stuff

but it's good xMult

[noble elk]

I do kinda wish if two hand types were tied it wouldn't reset on either

[gloomy swallow]

if two hands are tied it doesn't reset until you play one of them

[mellow salmon]

Man I ain’t ever getting naneinf

[noble elk]

Yeah ik but it's kinda lame that you can't rotate between two hand types to stop it from resetting

[gloomy swallow]

😭

[mellow salmon]

Natural spawn too, no negative tags. Pulled from a booster

[ancient gyro]

we make do

[serene forge]

they do work with it

because it counts as a dark suit

[noble elk]

Bruh 💀

[noble elk]

Thanks, I beat the run (:

Any tips for golden needle?

[ancient gyro]

rng

[distant thunder]

omw to 100 card deck

[fallow fog]

i beat it with riff raff cause money was so tough

[whole sedge]

Do i gamble the 50/50 and try to copy Yorick?

[fallow fog]

once money was settled then all was good

[fallow fog]

nah

[whole sedge]

👍

Its a natural poly lol

I was surprised too

no

The one i Ankhed is Rebate

[signal frigate]

Am I tripping or was there a Hyperlight drifter Collab with Balatro?

[whole sedge]

Aaaa what do i sell for chad here

Im playing a five of a kind lucky kings build

[signal frigate]

Probably business and just go full hog on lucky cards

You have rebate for econ ensurance

And lucky cards are good source of mult Because you have a not so good one

[signal frigate]

Careful with plant btw

[serene forge]

get lucky and never face the water ever

[signal frigate]

Anyways, can anyone tickle my brain here and confirm

[serene forge]

legitimately bullshit challenge lol

[signal frigate]

How Thunk didn't think to ban that Bossblind is beyond me

Golden Needle would've probably been a breeze for me if it weren't for it

[ancient gyro]

telling this to ocean

[serene forge]

nope

[serene forge]

he likes to troll

im pretty sure mark isn't banned in mad world (but plant is)

[whole sedge]

Do i get rid of the Rebate? Probably that right?

[thorny axle]

eternal negative wee AND trib in the same seed? don't mind if i do!

[signal frigate]

You have an extra slot

[whole sedge]

Oh.

[signal frigate]

My man forgot he took ecto

[whole sedge]

💔

HAAHHAAHAH

You're so right

[signal frigate]

Dw, I do that sometimes

[lunar zealot]

JOOOOKER SLOTS

JOKER SLOTS

[signal frigate]

Beware of the plant, make some numbered glass cards

Yorick should carry you though

[lunar zealot]

NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[whole sedge]

I have a glass ace i should be fine

My 4oak is leveled

[lunar zealot]

Oh jesus this image crusty af

[signal frigate]

Then I fuckin fever dreamed a card skin of Drifter on Clubs

[whole sedge]

Is drunkard big if i have Yorick

[serene forge]

yes

[distant thunder]

ok i might have rerolled the boss blind into the plant

generational fumble

[serene forge]

what was the original

[distant thunder]

the one that takes a level from every played hand

i didnt want a level off my five of a kind ;-;

[lunar zealot]

There should be jokers that only show up when you're playing a specific deck

just to mess with people going for c++

And bc that sounds fun

[wintry ice]

pareidolia now only shows up on abandoned

[serene forge]

you got a wound on your finger so instead of putting a bandaid on it you cut your whole hand off

[ancient gyro]

burger on red

[lunar zealot]

nebula joker that gives +chips for every planet level on every hand that isn't your most played

[distant thunder]

yup that checks out 😭

[lunar zealot]

erratic joker that's a free death when x hand is played

idk

[wintry ice]

that sounds cool actually

[lunar zealot]

You got this

[distant thunder]

ahem

[serene forge]

oh

you should be ok

[lunar zealot]

I'm very cool and awesome and smart and hot

[serene forge]

what is this ante

[distant thunder]

11...

[serene forge]

hmmm

I mean all your scoring is from jokers

[distant thunder]

counterargument

i have no flush

[serene forge]

if you die I don't think plant is what kills you exactly

[lunar zealot]

You die next ante anyway

[serene forge]

I thought you were playing 5oaks

[lunar zealot]

ante 12 kills like 90% of builds

[distant thunder]

yea put i have more lvls on flush

[lunar zealot]

ante 13 kills the other 8%

[distant thunder]

and that might have saved me

[serene forge]

oh

[distant thunder]

ah okay

[unborn cliff]

hi hornet

[distant thunder]

maybe lucky jocker locks in?

[lunar zealot]

jocoer

[distant thunder]

lucky ace**

[lunar zealot]

How did i misspell a misspelling

[unborn cliff]

our brains are shrinking

[distant thunder]

welp rip

[serene forge]

hi

[unborn cliff]

the chud

[distant thunder]

at least i had a good holograph run

it was so fun

[serene forge]

how can you spell if you can't read

[lunar zealot]

Jfnc tkchnskw s chiokntbc sbrjfj

[unborn cliff]

i agree

[serene forge]

I agree

[wintry ice]

i green

[thorny axle]

HOLY CRAP

[unborn cliff]

your did it

[lunar zealot]

Conguration

you had a great run

[unborn cliff]

congregation

[wintry ice]

greg

[noble elk]

Typecast challenge what do I do here? Is blackboard worth replacing anything?

[lunar zealot]

It's technically better than blue joker if you proc it consistently

[sly bolt]

sup chat

[serene forge]

ancient joker with 0 flush played is surely a choice

[unborn cliff]

sky

[sly bolt]

it's been a while since I played this game

anything new?

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[signal frigate]

Idk man

[sly bolt]

same tbh

[ancient gyro]

haven't played since last year

[signal frigate]

Same old

[sly bolt]

lame ass joker

[lunar zealot]

They added sex

[sly bolt]

WHAT

[noble elk]

I had the joker that triggers all played hands for a while

[lunar zealot]

Yeah turn on the tv

[signal frigate]

Hardest bossblind fr

[unborn cliff]

nothing new

[lunar zealot]

doesn't matter what channel

[sly bolt]

no

[unborn cliff]

the towers collapsed

[noble elk]

And then I had two bosses who disabled the anicent joker type

[sly bolt]

no more stone cards?!?!

[signal frigate]

Thunk removed stone cards ye

[sly bolt]

woahg...

[thorny axle]

two left

[sly bolt]

based texture

[noble elk]

Can I take negatives in typecast?

After the lock*

[sly bolt]

nop

[whole sedge]

Am i blueprinting stuff correctly or do i copy smth else

mah im prolly dead anyway

[unreal iron]

noooo youre supposed to do photo

its like 2^5 compared to 4^3

[whole sedge]

I ship my hand and 5 seconds later u reply bro 😭

well rip whatever

i scored 148 mil with copying chad

i doubt i'd have enough if i did photo

[quick flare]

did you check emperor for a glass tarot whatever it was called

[whole sedge]

i didnt but thats a good point tbf

[unreal iron]

you wouldnt probably

[quick flare]

it kind of tends to die before you win with it if you even score appropriately

[wicked sequoia]

Nothing quite like getting brainstorm in the same run you unlock it 😌

[summer oracle]

First off, I love showman

Also im really sad because im switching phones soon and im going apple to android so im loosing everything

[safe venture]

Is chicot any good for early game

Like ante 2 or so

[lunar zealot]

It's more of an investment kind of

with chicot you can afford to make much riskier decisions

like opting for things like ancient joker O

[lost fractal]

blueprint copying chad or blueprint copying sock
sock in the sense that im playing multiple face cards now

[lunar zealot]

over more consistent stuff like blackboard

[safe venture]

Hm

[buoyant basalt]

if you have a four of a kind or something like that maybe sock would be better ?

[balmy ridge]

b

[lost fractal]

im farming lucky cards , so yeah im playing maximum lucky faces

[void scarab]

Hi, where do I go for mod recommendations?

[buoyant basalt]

oh right well then if you have your winning hand farm a single one with chad

[full glade]

Whats the best decision here

[last bolt]

Me looking for the guy that eris reserved parking my sister last night

[nova elk]

what are xmult jokers'?

[last bolt]

jokers that multiply the mult value

[nova elk]

which 5 jokers I should build?

[last bolt]

uh

idk actually

[cursive lion]

The new Big Mac James Bond

[white forge]

23k after selling my eris stock

[signal frigate]

If it doesn't contribute to your score, sock isn't the better play

Unless you have a 5 card scoring joker

[grave valve]

how do i get multiple blueprints

im tryna make my photochad good enough to get me 2 100m

[modern panther]

I don't think we're in the best position for this ante, chat

[modern panther]

Invis, Ankh, Showman. So, showman.

[left pelican]

Guys is there any way to see achievements inside the game?

[bleak hemlock]

bro grew up

[timber pecan]

Why water not banned in golden needl. This is the 4x time that water has killed me with a mega good build.

🫠

[serene forge]

i don't get it

[bleak hemlock]

shaw is typing

🗣️

[serene forge]

where

[celest bridge]

deckfixing? what's that?

[grave valve]

whats the unlock requirement

[bleak hemlock]

so long and purple

[hollow ferry]

plot twist: you have dna

[celest bridge]

nah i got certificate and ankh'd it

[hollow ferry]

the spectrum of deckfixing

[celest bridge]

this is my build

[bleak hemlock]

goated

[celest bridge]

nice

[vernal storm]

So im semi new to this game, never got a legendary joker before. From what i can tell its one in 300 in the booster packs with the soul card, is this chance fixed? I see people pulling them left and right so i dunno

[grave valve]

most people on yt are playing seeded from what i see so they still are pretty rare

[terse vale]

0.3 chance to see one for every arcana or spirit pack you open

[celest bridge]

x7.3 on constellation, x9 on hologram

this game is busted lmao

got greedy with a negative tag and skipped ante 13 small blind

got constellation and holo pretty high though

[dreamy girder]

Chat, help

(The tarot one was free)

[celest bridge]

smiley tbh. baron really only works if you base your entire build aorund it

[pale wolf]

no

[pale wolf]

The chance is per slot in the pack, not per pack

[terse vale]

oh really

I did not know

I must be unlucky asl

[pale wolf]

yeah, that's why You're more likely to see it from an arcana pack than a spectral pack

if you open every single pack every run, on average you get a legendary one in seven runs or something like that

[terse vale]

I was thinking every slot but I thought that would mean the legendaries would appear too muchh

[deep ferry]

"I see people pulling them left and right"

[pale wolf]

I mean it's a small chance

[deep ferry]

the other issue with legendaries is there are 5 of them and there's no guarantee you won't get a repeat to what you've already discovered

[pale wolf]

It's possible to get multiple souls in the same pack with Showman

[pale wolf]

yeah, this is slightly mitigated but only for gold stickering

I think it would be reasonable for it to happen during Discovery as well

[deep ferry]

there's a steam guide where someone has a python script that will run the game for you looking for mega arcana packs in the first ante just to discover legendary jokers

[pale wolf]

? is that brainstorm

because brainstorm mod is well known

[deep ferry]

what is the brainstorm mod

maybe they do the same thing

I'm still new to this

[terse vale]

Ya tru

[pale wolf]

it filters seed for specific parameters

[deep ferry]

I mean for the purposes of discovering

since iirc you can't discover anything on a seeded run

[pale wolf]

It's not seeded

[deep ferry]

oh

[pale wolf]

It's filtered

[deep ferry]

oh huh that's cool I'll have a look, not a priority for now since I'm learning but still

[pale wolf]

The same way the game will only give you gold stake runs with unstickered legendary as the first one if available, it filters the seed for you

it would be cool if it did that for when you're discovering the legendaries

on any stake

[deep ferry]

yeah okay so it does kinda do the same thing but better

I'm guessing this is how more knowledgeable players fish for high score runs?

like naneinf, up to ante 39, etc

[pale wolf]

yeah, very few people regularly do vanilla naneinf stuff after somebody made brainstorm after watching doc reset forever to get perkatory

I assume you could use it for Discovery as well if you wanted

[deep ferry]

I'll think about it as I play more but yes this seems extremely useful in general

right now still kinda getting to grips with the basics and winning more consistently

[pale wolf]

for what it's worth I'm on mobile and I've never used any mods and don't think it's necessary

[deep ferry]

yeah I don't see it as necessary either, of course you can still win and have a great time without mods

[pale wolf]

but I don't go for that kind of run

[deep ferry]

fair enough!

[pale wolf]

also I should clarify, naneinf is very possible without using anything, it was just specific strategies with legendaries that people filter seed for

[lavish ridge]

the fact that brainstorm is incompatible with juggler makes me feel very robbed of $4 right now

[deep ferry]

I mentioned last night I'm still new to the game, I've won on green deck, red deck, and blue deck in that order so far and am currently trying the yellow deck, with a locked profile so discovering stuff along the way and I'd rather get more used to things first

[pale wolf]

I mean you still get the hand size