🕹・game-discussion

[royal ore]

what about to do list

[pallid ferry]

i know i just like being optimistic..

[royal ore]

that joker honestly has like 1 use and it is earlygame econ

[heady narwhal]

todo list is good

[serene forge]

so it's good

[humble gulch]

Oh, hello

[pallid ferry]

so its good

[royal ore]

ok yeah nvm

[pallid ferry]

[serene forge]

I hate Zany Joker

[heady narwhal]

runner

it's always runner

[serene forge]

sell photograph buy runner

[royal ore]

im too used to rebate and now i think so many econ jokers are bad in comparison

[pallid ferry]

yeah im slow,, 😔

[pallid ferry]

no way...

[distant vault]

Rebate and rocket my Holy grail

[heady narwhal]

rebate is good but i don't think rocket is anywhere near the second best econ joker

[atomic trout]

Blah

[pallid ferry]

i think satellite is pretty neat

[heady narwhal]

i'd say midas and certificate and maybe cloud 9 are better

[pallid ferry]

certificate,, ❤️‍🩹

[atomic trout]

How does one win with 8 rounds?

[distant vault]

Idk if it is or isn't they're just my Holy grail and they're what I like

[heady narwhal]

not like that i guess

[pallid ferry]

early rocket is cinema

[atomic trout]

I've been attempting and it's just impossible

[hybrid tendon]

why are you doing this

[distant vault]

Yup. I like getting paid for doing nothing. Rocket does that

[heady narwhal]

i got to ante 8 and would have won if i had different tags. so i think it's possible

that said i don't think it's worth doing

you don't evwn unlock merry andy

[royal ore]

yo bloodstone is actually great for this challenge

+14 mult for the dagger is pretty good

i think its +14 mult right

[pallid ferry]

i think

[hybrid tendon]

nuh uh

[royal ore]

oh wait its sell value not buy value

.-.

[hybrid tendon]

it has to sell for 7,

so it's actually +6 mult

[pallid ferry]

i havent memorized my sell values yet i am a fool...

[hybrid tendon]

nah

just divide by 2 the buy value and round down

[nova mantle]

crazy joker and dusk gold stickers!!

abandoned deck is a goldmine for straight builds

[royal ore]

dangit i nearly was able to kill the idol but i pressed reroll

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[pallid ferry]

thats a pretty cool start

[upbeat abyss]

is the bean joker any good on black deck

[pallid ferry]

looking like a pair build perhaps...

[upbeat abyss]

should i get the bean

[nova mantle]

ofc but it wont last long

[distant vault]

Idk it depends

[hybrid tendon]

it doesn't really serve a purpose rn

[distant vault]

What do you want it for

[upbeat abyss]

wait it doesnt reset?

[hybrid tendon]

no

[nova mantle]

after 5 rounds it dies

[hybrid tendon]

it goes down to 0 and dies

[upbeat abyss]

oh

ight ill get it i guess

[nova mantle]

what page of the collection would yall say has the best asortment of jokers aside from page 10

[pallid ferry]

or do i turn to the dark side,,,

[nova mantle]

id personally go for page 5

[hybrid tendon]

idk I don't remember pages

[nova mantle]

page 1 has jimbo and page 10 has the legendaries

[little escarp]

dinner time

[nova mantle]

the rest is easy to remember

[novel moss]

Let stuntman crash and burn. Bring the baron.

[hybrid tendon]

baron is literally useless rn

[pallid ferry]

thats why its the dark side

[nova mantle]

do not listen to the voices dont buy baron

[hybrid tendon]

do NOT buy baron

[distant vault]

Page 1 some ass

Page 5 my goat

[atomic trout]

I give up

[distant vault]

Getting just page 5 jokers would make every run winnable

[modern panther]

-tempo value
+disappointment

[pallid ferry]

👀

[manic zealot]

rip to all of my glass

[little escarp]

are we deadass 🥀

[manic zealot]

rip in peace

[atomic trout]

Yellow Deck..the Plant. 7 Rounds.

[little escarp]

rip

[atomic trout]

Trying to win in 8

[manic zealot]

maybe you get out of this but idk...

[vocal rose]

1.5% chance btw

[manic zealot]

lmao

[little escarp]

what

[vocal rose]

you win this

very easily

you have SIX hands

[manic zealot]

yeah I was joking

[little escarp]

bet imma do it

[vocal rose]

you will

like its impossible to lose that

spam flushes since thats your chips

[little escarp]

thank you, you believed in me

[marsh goblet]

i hate when ur barely surviving for most of a run and u just kinda wonder if there's a joker u missed somewhere

[manic zealot]

yeah

[little escarp]

fr

[manic zealot]

you never know unless you see it is the tough part

[pallid ferry]

heckin love yorick

[manic zealot]

sometimes I wonder if any one arcana pack I happen to not take had a soul card, like how many soul cards have I missed total in my time of playing?

[acoustic kettle]

Just had that type of run yesterday where i got no xmult but powered through with levels

[little escarp]

i hate wheel of fortune..

[manic zealot]

one chunky yorick

[little escarp]

ts is NOT 1 in 4

[manic zealot]

it's a very overrated tarot card ngl

[pallid ferry]

i got the holy combo of discard vouchers and merry andy

[manic zealot]

even if it hits it may not be a game winner

but it also never hits so...

[little escarp]

ik its dumb

[acoustic kettle]

Had to take a poly skip for my xmult

[manic zealot]

it's extra annoying when I have an oops and it still won't hit, even as a 1 in 2

[little escarp]

worth it?

[acoustic kettle]

Ye

[woven spire]

Ye

[acoustic kettle]

Fib is really good

[little escarp]

bet

[woven spire]

I love Oops all 6s.

[little escarp]

game changer, fib was SO worth it

[woven spire]

you need an Xmult joker and ull be pretty much set for a decent run

[little escarp]

yeah im doing good so far hoping for one still

? whats the move

[vocal rose]

constellation

why did it reply to that

[vocal rose]

the move is constellation

[woven spire]

definetly

[manic zealot]

yep I agree

[woven spire]

theres ur Xmult joker

[manic zealot]

absolutely

[woven spire]

how much monee u got?

[little escarp]

bet

lemme check

[manic zealot]

it's a harder decision if you're poor rn

[little escarp]

11$

[manic zealot]

probably still worth taking constellation

[woven spire]

Oof, dont spend much, try to gain some interest and start spending on planets

[manic zealot]

just don't prioritize it until you have more money

[little escarp]

bet good to know

im taking MAD notes

[manic zealot]

constellation is amazing but it can be a money sink

[woven spire]

agree

[manic zealot]

your econ is more important to get right first

[woven spire]

dont be shy to ask we here to help

[vocal rose]

hit interest cap

pls

[manic zealot]

yep and we love to share what we know

[vocal rose]

and then dont go below that

[manic zealot]

yep

[woven spire]

Econ is REALLY important at the start

[little escarp]

yeah i joined last night and was talking to @wheat haven for like an hour and he was teaching me

[wintry ice]

const is something you focus on in mid to lategame

[manic zealot]

aim for that, for having 25$

[manic zealot]

teaching new players is a very fun and rewarding experience for me, and I think a lot of other experienced players love it too

[little escarp]

i have like over 300 hours on this game and didnt get a single win that whole time until last night

[woven spire]

If u can, dont spend anything at all, get to the interest cap and dont go below it, spend on planets to get that constellation flying

[little escarp]

im fs not new just really bad

[woven spire]

interest cap is 25 btw

[little escarp]

mmmkay

[vocal rose]

this is a genuine question but

[marsh goblet]

dagger scales so fast holy crap

[little escarp]

yes?

[manic zealot]

there's a moment where it clicks, it also took me a long time before I stopped losing more than winning

[vocal rose]

were some of those hours spent afking

or were they all active hours

[little escarp]

all active

[acoustic kettle]

[vocal rose]

dagger is good

[little escarp]

ive played the game at the airport and on flight and all that

constantly, even in class when i can

[manic zealot]

I felt so embarassed I didn't know you could discard more than 1 card for longer than I'd like to admit when I was a new player lmao

[pallid ferry]

it got even bigger.. my biggest yorick yet

[signal frigate]

We coaching?

[manic zealot]

beefy yorick

[pallid ferry]

yo, rick!

[signal frigate]

Rick is here

[little escarp]

yeah i watched markiplier play this game when it came out and instantly fell in love

[woven spire]

theres a moment when you just keep getting better, its just sudden, it can get later or sooner but youll get it

[signal frigate]

That is BASED as a long time Markiplier fan

[manic zealot]

I would've played this so much sooner if I'd heard about it

[little escarp]

yall are my people fr

[signal frigate]

I found it through Bricky

[acoustic kettle]

When i started i thought psychic needed all 5 cards to score

[woven spire]

ive seen that video too lol

[marsh goblet]

chat do i wait for banana to go extinct and keep it or just feed it to dagger

[manic zealot]

interestingly the game came out on my mom's birthday so now I'll never forget this game's birthday

[signal frigate]

Looking back to it makes it hilariously clear how new he was

[manic zealot]

hmm good question

[pallid ember]

i just bought the game the other day so dont crucify me for being bad,,, but. how do i mentally recover from these runs..,

[marsh goblet]

it's ante 5 i don't think cavendish is gonna show up ngl

[manic zealot]

I would honestly feed the dagger since you're in ante 5 already

yep

[signal frigate]

Sell it.

[acoustic kettle]

Well first of all don't pareidolia

[signal frigate]

Don't get Pareidolia if you don't need it

[woven spire]

lmao so true

[pallid ember]

w needy streamer pfp

[pallid ember]

it was too late..,, but i know for next lol

[woven spire]

Hold R.

[manic zealot]

never give up on a run

[vocal rose]

should I get another c++ in the last 3 days left in the year

[signal frigate]

You paring?

[acoustic kettle]

A lot of new players

[pallid ember]

why not?

[signal frigate]

It took me months for my first, and weeks for the rest of my profiles, goodluck

[manic zealot]

2nd one?

[acoustic kettle]

Christmas miracle

[pallid ferry]

the hatred for dagger runs deep..

[signal frigate]

Because the Plant exists and it doesn't do anything on its own, so you're wasting one slot

[pallid ember]

oh i see

[woven spire]

lot of people got balatro gifted fs

[little escarp]

purchase?

[signal frigate]

It's better to fix your deck instead

[woven spire]

no

[pallid ferry]

crimbus miracle

[little escarp]

okay

[signal frigate]

So you can have more face cards

[vocal rose]

4th

[wintry ice]

square is a better source of chips

[manic zealot]

no unless you really want it in your collection, then buy it and imediately sell it

[manic zealot]

holy fuck

[acoustic kettle]

A lot of people tried it out since its the holidays too i'm ngl

[manic zealot]

I did it twice and idk if I'm willing to do it a 3rd time lmao

[wintry ice]

(if you're in ante 3 and below)

[woven spire]

i bet, i had a friend that hated on balatro, got him to try it and fell in love w it

balatro its an easy game to hate till u try it

[pallid ferry]

i should buy the balatro switch physical version for all my friends

[manic zealot]

I have a friend with a similar experience, he tried it since he's in a steam family with me and he called balatro "infuriatingly addicting" or something like that

[signal frigate]

Games with the objective of "Numbers go up" will always be addicting

Except Balatro does more than that

[manic zealot]

Nubby moment

[signal frigate]

It's EVERYTHING about Balatro that makes it addicting

[manic zealot]

love that game too

[signal frigate]

The sounds, the music, the art

[vocal rose]

ok this is why I stopped playing the game

[signal frigate]

Even the little visual pop ups

[shell rock]

every single animation is so
damn
SATISFYING

[manic zealot]

all the possibilities are what make it so effective

[last bolt]

Is idol easier (to gold stake) on erratic¿

[vocal rose]

this shit gets way too boring sometimes

[signal frigate]

I'd probably just put a seal on that queen

[woven spire]

ive seen a girl that got told by her psychologist to stop playing balatro cuz of an actual addiction she has lmao

[shell rock]

yeah probably

[manic zealot]

I would take the blue seal or the aura

[wintry ice]

depends on seed

[vocal rose]

trance is the obvious pick here

[marsh goblet]

more money or the funny joker

[woven spire]

depends

[manic zealot]

yep

[shell rock]

DNA.

[vocal rose]

but blue seals are SO BORING

[signal frigate]

On the other hand, there's also Slay the Spire

[signal frigate]

My second mental illness

[vocal rose]

it actually makes the game so easy

[atomic trout]

Another Pyrrhic victory

[shell rock]

theres also enter the gungeon

[manic zealot]

it's a wee bit more consistent depending on what the game gives you when you start

[signal frigate]

And now fucking Mindustry, Factorio lite

Try to understand what's on the screen here

[shell rock]

wee? like wee joker from balatro

[woven spire]

Project zomboid.

[manic zealot]

if your deck starts with like 15 kings then you have a lot more of a chance to get the thing online

[manic zealot]

ya

[last bolt]

Reroll boss blind

[signal frigate]

I'm a coward in Horror games so I was genuinely scared to even get out of my spawn point in that game

[signal frigate]

Sorry man, not enough Silicon

[woven spire]

its the only game that i find dying genuinely fun

[signal frigate]

I was a nurse, a Zombie jumped me and I accidentally shot my gun instead of hitting him with the knife

So guess what happened in the next few minutes

[acoustic kettle]

So me

I love making fun of my friends for being scared but i'm too scared to even move in any horror games

[marsh goblet]

i guess imma just make a bunch of queens

[woven spire]

until you have a base in lousville and the closest fucking spawnpoint is in west point, 15 minutes drive

[signal frigate]

Ngl, I like the game alot but it's overwhelming for new players

There's so many shit to press

I am glad that it's also as customizable as you want it to be

[woven spire]

theres so many shit that u need to be focused on too

[acoustic kettle]

The pros and cons

[signal frigate]

So you can make it either World War Z level or the Walking Dead

[acoustic kettle]

A lot of things you can do
A LOT of things you can do

[woven spire]

mods make it even more

[atomic trout]

I hate the needle

[signal frigate]

I did none'a that and just went in balling

[atomic trout]

Hisses

[signal frigate]

The FIRST thing I saw was a tweaking zombie just outside

[woven spire]

i have 500+ hours and i play with 120+ mods lmao

[signal frigate]

I was inside a pharmacy I think, there was a bunch of medical equipment

[woven spire]

most of em quality of life

[atomic trout]

Should I Skip?

[signal frigate]

Imma have to get a better PC and play it more

Despite me shitting my pants, I liked it

[grizzled lagoon]

I finally beat balatro with four different decks

[signal frigate]

That's alot of money

[woven spire]

i play on a i5 4th gen with no graphics card, just optimize that mf

[atomic trout]

From $1?

[signal frigate]

Yeah.

[atomic trout]

Oh yeah

[signal frigate]

It doubles it

So it's multiplicative

[atomic trout]

That's...not double

[woven spire]

now pivot

[woven spire]

it doubles the double

[signal frigate]

It is, you had alot of double tags

So it stacked

[atomic trout]

Woooow nevermind

[woven spire]

well.

[signal frigate]

I didn't expect you to win at all, you were ante 11

[atomic trout]

I know.🤣

[signal frigate]

With that build

[atomic trout]

But getting the last tags is fun

[signal frigate]

Good in Gold Stake though

I should do that

I realised how little I skip

[woven spire]

i have never had a good use on castle, prolly a skill issue tho

[signal frigate]

Because half of my skip tags are locked and undiscovered

[woven spire]

then theres cryptid

theres a skip tag for a brainstorm lol

[vocal sun]

i see why people hate violet vessel now

i just lost at ante 8 bc of it

[acoustic kettle]

Scoring check

A massive one at that

[vocal sun]

last one was a negative photo

last joker

[woven spire]

photochad with stm?

[vocal sun]

i just didnt get what i needed, i had a bunch of red seal jacks and couldnt get them

[acoustic kettle]

Photochad is a hc / pair joker

[vocal sun]

also i probably couldve gotten rid of swashbuckler idk why i didnt

[acoustic kettle]

[little escarp]

should I??

[vocal sun]

yes

trust

[little escarp]

for what

[vocal sun]

soul

[little escarp]

no what should i replace it with

[woven spire]

that chips mf prolly

[acoustic kettle]

The spades

[woven spire]

cant remember his name

[vocal sun]

what they said

[little escarp]

my whole deck is practicly built on spades

[woven spire]

it gives more score than 80 chips

15 mult its better than 80 chips

[acoustic kettle]

I like chips

[acoustic kettle]

Chips yummy

[woven spire]

it gives 15 w a flush

just sell the chips

[little escarp]

the crafty?

[woven spire]

ye

[little escarp]

okay

[woven spire]

tell us what u get

i wanna know

[vocal sun]

same

[acoustic kettle]

Chicot probably

Oh damn

[woven spire]

not baad

[little escarp]

yeah

[acoustic kettle]

Got like the best pull

Now kill your faces

[little escarp]

like destroyed as in like the terot card or like discarded

[acoustic kettle]

Tarot

[woven spire]

if u see trading card, trust, sell constelation

[little escarp]

i dont think ive used this one

[vocal sun]

dude i had the yorick earlier and by the end of the run i had like x15 on it and i had a poly blueprint next to it

[acoustic kettle]

Not discarded

You have to use hanged man

[vocal sun]

discarded would be crazy

[acoustic kettle]

Or trading card

[little escarp]

okay so like DESTROY destroy them

[acoustic kettle]

Yes

[woven spire]

you need to fully destroy them

[little escarp]

okay

[woven spire]

with hanged man

[little escarp]

yeah yeah

okay bet

[acoustic kettle]

Glass them so they break

[little escarp]

mmmmmm

thinking outside the box

[woven spire]

and if u see trading card sell constellation

[little escarp]

okay

[acoustic kettle]

Why sell const

Sell wrathful

[vocal sun]

wait how do i build stm

[woven spire]

actually yes mb

[little escarp]

aristotle and pluto

[acoustic kettle]

Make queens

[vocal sun]

really?

i wouldve never guessed that'

[acoustic kettle]

[pallid ferry]

balatro

[woven spire]

balalo

[acoustic kettle]

Balal

[pallid ferry]

balala

[woven spire]

b

[pallid ferry]

hors..

[vocal sun]

how do i build stm tho like actually

[woven spire]

make queens.

and a mime

[acoustic kettle]

Make queens

[vocal sun]

smiley or joker pack

[little escarp]

sad day

[acoustic kettle]

💔

[pallid ferry]

do what you would with a baron build but with queens or something

[vocal sun]

literally just happened to me

[pallid ferry]

also some steel

[woven spire]

violet vessel.

[pallid ferry]

the violent vessel...

[acoustic kettle]

Violent vessel

[vocal sun]

im dumb asf i do like 1 build idk what to do in baron either, baby me through it bromigo

[little escarp]

worst enemy

[woven spire]

ive heard that before

[acoustic kettle]

The vessel is so violent

[pallid ferry]

i think its make lots of queens and find mime or something , brotato chip

[opal delta]

hi

[pallid ferry]

[acoustic kettle]

Strength you jacks

[little escarp]

do i get Egg?

[acoustic kettle]

Make queens

Preferably make them steel

[pallid ferry]

~~but what if a htr shows up and hits the road all over the place ~~

[acoustic kettle]

Then use death to copy

[woven spire]

gogo gaga

[acoustic kettle]

That joker can hit the road and get run over by bus

[pallid ferry]

[woven spire]

balalsjs

balallalo

[pallid ferry]

[little escarp]

is dagger worth it? i have 15$

[wintry ice]

supernova is good enough +mult

[analog mulch]

Ya like Pluto?

[little escarp]

bet

[little escarp]

Pluto? you could say i like it

[wintry ice]

showman moment

[pallid ferry]

get that saturn out of there we need more plutonium

[woven spire]

saturn really quiet there

[little escarp]

call me a toilet cause i do is flush 🥀

[opal delta]

hi

[little escarp]

hello

[nova matrix]

Who wants to see my crazy build I just sped ran plasma deck with

[little escarp]

me

[vocal rose]

no

[woven spire]

cursed

[vocal rose]

you should spam pairs and take midas mask

[little escarp]

well ncheck my last message pal

im just gonna buy egg now then sell it when its really useful

[fickle mesa]

this is a pair setup what

[vocal sun]

aint no way i got canio from soul on a mad world challenge run

literally no face cards fuck me

wait im dumb asf nvm

[little escarp]

no its not

[atomic trout]

I agreeeee 🤣

[little escarp]

literally a flush focused joker

[fickle mesa]

supernova is like the pair joker

[little escarp]

im not using it for that though

[fickle mesa]

it favors spammable hands like high card and pair the most

[little escarp]

okay

clearly im not using it for pairs though

[fickle mesa]

droll joker is an early game scoring option that gets abandoned for another gameplan that scales better later on

like pairs

[vale mesa]

can you buy a negative joker if you have 6/5 jokers?

[little escarp]

if i make my whole hand the same suit then its literally a flush everytime

[fickle mesa]

are you playing on the easy difficulty

white stake

[little escarp]

yeah?

[fickle mesa]

i guess in that case thats probably reasonable

[little escarp]

ummmm okay

who put your panties in a bunch

[low fog]

nice

[little escarp]

abstract?

[vale mesa]

its guarenteed +15 with 5 jokers

[little escarp]

yeah

what should i sell?

i havent had egg very long so its not worth much

[vale mesa]

i mean i don't know what people do with egg
but like it is necessarily better than droll

[marsh goblet]

pair is my favorite hand now cuz it reminds me of teto pear

also because it makes me win

[vale mesa]

i'd sell egg probably idk

[little escarp]

alr

[marsh goblet]

chat take a guess what am i missing

[little escarp]

what

[vale mesa]

seeing double is the hardest to accidentally unlock

imo

[marsh goblet]

i forgot how u even unlock seeing double

[little escarp]

???

[marsh goblet]

is it a 4oak 7 of clubs?

[little escarp]

hard pick

[marsh goblet]

u have supernova i'd instantly take it with no question

[little escarp]

okay bettt

[marsh goblet]

start pair gaming it'll be a free win

you have a chip joker, mult, scaling mult, and xmult

should be in the bag already for white stake

[marsh goblet]

crazy how i even remember that lmao

but no i have seeing double

[hardy fable]

satellite

[marsh goblet]

also damn mercury is making it's way up there

[marsh goblet]

nope

[opal delta]

sell flush joker for abstract

[hardy fable]

hmmm if pair is high maybe you score low enough to not get me

[marsh goblet]

nope my highest hand is e42

[vale mesa]

bruh i hate flushes

[little escarp]

jokers rn

[hardy fable]

oh wait it doesn't have to be a joker

[marsh goblet]

bingo

[hardy fable]

the second tier of the card voucher

[marsh goblet]

yes lol

[vale mesa]

i naturally gravitate towards playing straights
but 5oak is the most fun

[marsh goblet]

it's called illusion

[opal delta]

nooo you sold egg

[little escarp]

had to

[opal delta]

[little escarp]

didnt wanna

[opal delta]

did you do it for the econ

[marsh goblet]

i gotta do some challenges

[little escarp]

lock in

[little escarp]

ya

[opal delta]

okay

[marsh goblet]

oh boy this looks funny

[little escarp]

is misprint worth it?

[low fog]

i fucking love this

[vale mesa]

feelin lucky?

[little escarp]

not necisarilly

[vale mesa]

+0 mult for you then

[little escarp]

dang

[vale mesa]

finally won my first gold stake run and can now say its all about luck

[ripe gull]

heartwarming flush player discorvers fun strategies

[little escarp]

i have really been enjoying flush

[vale mesa]

i have never played flushes

[little escarp]

its fun

[hexed leaf]

guys I don’t know how to play poker

kind of understand game though

on tutorial

[vale mesa]

i mean youll get it as you play

does anyone know if you can get a negative joker with 6/5 jokers
like after selling a negative invisible joker or something

[little escarp]

rut row raggy

[little escarp]

yeah you dont exactly need to understand poker just the hands aspect of poker

it tells you along the way

[wicked sonnet]

flush fives were scoring me e20, my highest ever and enough to beat the ante. i miscounted the number of cards in my deck cuz i was too greedy with the golden ticket that i just got last shop. i can't believe i just lost this run.

all i needed was a showman

or brainstorm

[little escarp]

it has more than just poker as well but it gets easier the longer you play, it might take a bit of time to get good, like in my case, but still

[vale mesa]

that's depressing

[wicked sonnet]

i am so mad

i genuinely can't believe i just sold the run

[rocky tiger]

Never played poker in my life and really enjoy the game

[vale mesa]

here's some advice to anyone new
always take wheel of fortune it is yes

[wicked sonnet]

i still scored e17 with the four of a kind....

it was just 1.6e17

one more trigger...

damn im so disappointed

[vale mesa]

damnnn

[little escarp]

thats funny, cause im really good at poker and suck at this game

[vale mesa]

you'll get that next run trust

[rocky tiger]

😅

[wicked sonnet]

i'm not even going for high score 😭

purple stake i think that was

imagine i did that white stake

[rocky tiger]

I learnt lua and love2d specifically to mod the game i might be addicted

[little escarp]

im so confuesd on how to mod this game

[lost vault]

nya! ^w^

[vale mesa]

you don't need to know a whole lot of lua to mod the game

[rocky tiger]

Thats true

[little escarp]

ive watched like 4 videos and just am so lost

[rocky tiger]

Installing or coding mods?

[quartz herald]

Should I sacrifice Face for metal? It's at 3x rn

[little escarp]

installing

[rocky tiger]

Oh thats easy

[little escarp]

im not smart enough for coding

[rocky tiger]

What os are you on

[little escarp]

ive been trying for like a week

[little escarp]

what

oh operating system

sorry

[rocky tiger]

Alg

[little escarp]

i think windows 10

old pc

[rocky tiger]

Ok should work fine

[vale mesa]

don't install cryptid btw

[little escarp]

idk what that is but note taken

[wicked sonnet]

anaglyph deck?

[rocky tiger]

Ive made it work on macos and linux windows is easier than that

[rocky tiger]

Popular mod

[little escarp]

got it

[quartz herald]

Nah ghost

[wicked sonnet]

how the hell you get all those negatives

[vale mesa]

browse local files yada yada
don't listen to me read the instructions

[quartz herald]

Double tag and got lucky with a skip and a negative spectral card

[wicked sonnet]

also probably not but i don't think it would make much of a change to your score either way

[rocky tiger]

I was confused on how to install mods till i actually read the instructions

[wicked sonnet]

bro took negative skip 😭 🙏

[little escarp]

i tired but i dont understand extracting files and dll files

[quartz herald]

I guess it worked out 💀💀

[rocky tiger]

You dont need to extract a dll i dont think

Just have it in your files

[little escarp]

every video and instruction ive read and watched talked about that

[vale mesa]

what mod do you wanna install

different mods may require different things

[little escarp]

i dont have an exact mod i just wanna see what i can install

[rocky tiger]

If you want the widest compatibily use the steammodded lovely injector

[little escarp]

yeah thats what ive seen online

[rocky tiger]

Actually i might get banned for saying that ggs

Move this to mod discussion

[vale mesa]

why?

oh

[rocky tiger]

Rules say no talking about modding outside mod chat

[vocal rose]

mods arent od like that

ur fine

[marsh goblet]

i still enjoy flush on occasion, it's basically my go to for the hand i play if i need a higher scoring hand than pair without the need for deckfixing. but really i just play whatever the game gives me, and that tends to be pair runs since they're super easy to set up and it's the ideal hand to default to when you have little direction due to stuff like supernova and obelisk

also i beat the omelette challenge first try. lowkey i could have won this challenge even on gold stake lol

[rocky tiger]

Can we agree full house is the best hand

Full house always clutches early game when you need it and flush house builds have gotten me e100

[marsh goblet]

full house has one single niche and that's pants runs that want to trigger 3oak jokers like the trio

otherwise there's very little reason to use it

if you can run full house, you can probably run 4oak

in which case why not just go 4oak

[rocky tiger]

I think you should stop talking 😭

[marsh goblet]

and for flush house, if you can run flush house, you can run flush five, which is better for certain jokers

[marsh goblet]

im just echoing what players better than me have told me

[rocky tiger]

Let me run my full house geez

[marsh goblet]

but i also agree with those players better than me from personal experience

[rocky tiger]

Ok can we agree then that 8 ball is cracked

[marsh goblet]

ehhh

i like 8ball when it snowballs properly into making more eights

[rocky tiger]

Tbf its NOT as bad as ppl say

[marsh goblet]

but if i get unlucky i just frown

i only really take it if i need direction

[rocky tiger]

My luckiest seed ever was an eight ball run

[marsh goblet]

if im already sorta doing something then i ignore it

vagabond is my goat cuz it isn't rng and is more flexible

[rocky tiger]

I pickup vagabond on green deck

Thats it

[marsh goblet]

odd considering it's debatably weaker for green deck in some cases

interest is a strong mechanic but tarots are way stronger most of the time

[rocky tiger]

Thats fair enough

[ripe gull]

Yea thats just the nature of a meta existing

Game tends to go to pairs

[low fog]

gg that was my first run that was actually going for naneinf

[marsh goblet]

i guess you don't lose anything on green deck compared to other decks, but without winning in a few amount of hands and discards you have less benefits from your deck compared to other decks when using vagabond on green deck

like, red deck still has it's extra discard for example

[rocky tiger]

By the time i see vagabond on other decks i often have a good econ

Rebate mail is so good

[marsh goblet]

but if you play all of your hands on green deck it's like you don't even have any modifiers

unless u save all ur discards which is honestly pretty realistic

[fickle mesa]

okay but flush house has better chip scaling iirc

[ripe gull]

You can still play mostly there if u have smth like rebate

[marsh goblet]

nope, flush house has 10 less chips but 1 more mult than flush five

[fickle mesa]

and its a bit easier to set up flush house than flush 5

[marsh goblet]

per planet level

[fickle mesa]

ohhh

[marsh goblet]

but also starts with worse base stats

[ripe gull]

Vagabond can just give all ur tarots u need and u can rebate ur money back on final hand

[fickle mesa]

i mean still sorta sidegrade

[rocky tiger]

Whatever im not a nerd at this game

[ripe gull]

F5 and Flush house both suck anyway

Atleast flush house has a niche with vagabond

[marsh goblet]

this is true, especially noticeable on checkered deck. flush house is quite good for regular gold stake runs on checkered deck

[rocky tiger]

Im going to continue playing how i find fun which means eightball and flush house

[fickle mesa]

and u can get a flush house earlier since u really only technically need just one suit changer

so more planet levels

[marsh goblet]

yup

[ripe gull]

Hi smug

[lament bronze]

Endlesscels when when hypothetical that is not feasible nor helpful

[marsh goblet]

more power to you, video games are supposed to be fun ^^

[lament bronze]

😍

[ripe gull]

They both suck ass at endless anyway

[marsh goblet]

i just personally find winning and hyper-optimization fun

[fickle mesa]

i mean

tbh 8 ball is not bad

[marsh goblet]

lowkey optimization is one of the most fun parts about video games

[marsh goblet]

oh it's not i just personally dislike it for it's rng factor

[fickle mesa]

it makes tarot cards and sometimes u can abuse that and it can be self enabling in a way

[marsh goblet]

same reason i dislike bloodstone

bloodstone is strong when it's played correctly but the rng can screw you over

[fickle mesa]

yeah but when bloodstone doesnt proc you fucking die

[lament bronze]

Mfs with the least useful joker as their opinion love acting like getting your shit caved in repeatedly is fun because idk heros journey or something

[marsh goblet]

true it's a bit more of an issue with bloodstone

[ripe gull]

True im a showman enjoyer

[rocky tiger]

I dont like bloodstone bc my runs always seem to go there in endless

[fickle mesa]

with value generators you can not get generation for a round or two and be like fine

[lament bronze]

Comes to the nerd about how to win the game autistically channel and explodes when their bottom tier frauds are not helpful to win the game autistically

[fickle mesa]

bloodstone is very much an endless joker

[ripe gull]

r/balatro

[rocky tiger]

But its so boring

[maiden ether]

Just double checking, this this a glitch? I don’t have 3 jokers discovered not including this legendary but why is Yorick still not unlocked? I have the sticker showing I used it to beat red stake.

[fickle mesa]

yeah

[marsh goblet]

i mean yeah, it's either idol/bloodstone + retriggers or baron mime. and only baron mime is feasible for naneinf

[fickle mesa]

its an endless joker

ofc its boring

[ripe gull]

Bloodstone is very much horrible in endless

[fickle mesa]

endless is boring

[fickle mesa]

its retriggerable xmult that gets u further than like

[rocky tiger]

Who finds watching bp baron mime steel deck fun

[fickle mesa]

95% of jokers

[rocky tiger]

Litterally noone

[lament bronze]

You'd think since the game doesn't have a big ass reddit button that the obtuse nerds that only aim to win would be there since you have to go out of your way to find that community but no, the subreddit is endless-land

[ripe gull]

Thats still horrible in endless

[lament bronze]

Useless land

[ripe gull]

Smug I did see like a semi well balanced joker a while back on thers

Was like 3 weeks ago and I forgot it

But still was kinda crazy

[lament bronze]

Joker idea on the reddit wow

[ripe gull]

But was like semi well balenced

Which is better then anything they have ever done

[fickle mesa]

red joker

[marsh goblet]

reverse grimbo

[lament bronze]

Normally it's "Incredibly niche and nigh impossible to proc for little reward because the person overbalanced it" or "Win the game automatically"

[fickle mesa]

+1 mult for each discard -1 mult for each hand played

[marsh goblet]

sounds absolutely terrible <3

[fickle mesa]

you win joker

[marsh goblet]

yeah lol

[ripe gull]

Or its just flat out better other joker

[fickle mesa]

yeah as it turns out in the game where u have to play hands to score dying when hands are played kinda sucks

[marsh goblet]

i know my friend is a fuckin FIEND for the suggestions channel, she has like 8k messages in this server and 7k of them are in the suggestions channel

[ripe gull]

Ik only 1 person with more msgs then me

[dim ingot]

I love how many jokers aren’t legal playing cards

[lament bronze]

Still mad that someone said they won't close my emoji suggestions suggestion if we pinged the mods

Then someone did and they closed the goddamn thread

[fickle mesa]

literally none are

[dim ingot]

Shaped, I mean

[lament bronze]

Play stack mods are draconian by nature and I will not bend to anything lesser than "Snitch when someone says the N word or another bot comes into chat"

[fickle mesa]

how did i lose that game of poker i had +8 mult from my jolly joker

[lament bronze]

If a mod could strip you away from the right to talk forever without any infraction they will

[balmy ridge]

k

[dim ingot]

As in, most are card shaped, but there’s the tile, or the one that’s ripped in half and so on. I like that.

[lament bronze]

I love the premise of even using jokers altogether because they're banned fucking everywhere

Any house you go to

Any casino

[fickle mesa]

then theres the one thats a screen

[marsh goblet]

discord and reddit are always like this

[lament bronze]

"No leave the jokers out"

[fickle mesa]

or the one thats burnt

[marsh goblet]

man that's boring let us use jokers in poker

[dim ingot]

…I must not know enough about real poker to know what jokers mean to it

[marsh goblet]

i play pot of jokes which lets me draw two cards

[lunar zealot]

Ello ello

[ripe gull]

Hi kami

[lament bronze]

Normally if you have found yourself in a psychopath's house where they allow the jokers in poker it's basically just

Any card

You needed a 3 for a straight? Done

[lunar zealot]

I realized something

[lament bronze]

Your pal had an ace? Now he has a pair

[lunar zealot]

it's christmas

so people are getting balatro for christmas

[ripe gull]

Uh

[dim ingot]

Let me go pull out my Weird & Wild Creatures cards from 20 years ago.

[lunar zealot]

ohhhhh nooooo

[ripe gull]

Little late but yea

[fickle mesa]

its well past christmas

[ripe gull]

Oh god ur right

[marsh goblet]

oh that's lit

[ripe gull]

They prob just go to the reddit

[dim ingot]

Got myself it in the sale, but yeah

[marsh goblet]

so it's like ace on crack

[ripe gull]

And not here surely

[marsh goblet]

instead of being two ranks it's all of them

[lament bronze]

Sorta sale as any other use of jokers in any other game apart from that one where you have to remove it

Most games jokers are just a wild card for anything you need

Nigh insta win

So that's why nobody plays with them lmao

[lunar zealot]

can someone tl;dr me on the topic

[lament bronze]

Texas hold em already has enough homicides related to it I don't want to know what adding jokers to it would entail

[ripe gull]

I cant even and ive been here the whole time

[lament bronze]

Talking about using jonklers in real life

Like the actual card

On any card game

[lunar zealot]

i'm da joker baby

[lament bronze]

Woker

You're woke Kami

[ripe gull]

Kami should I play balatro again and actually play gold stake

[lament bronze]

Play black stake ghost deck for funsies

[ripe gull]

Its been like 7 months since ive done balatro outside of seeded nonendless or gamblemax

[dim ingot]

…Like 30 games in, I finally get the achievement, “Play a Royal Flush!”

[lament bronze]

No scribbly joker?

[ripe gull]

Im on phone I cant send the screenshot >:(

[opal delta]

hi

[dim ingot]

…I don’t have their names memorized as well as the effects

[lunar zealot]

@lament bronze i finally got a win streak that isn't 2

my highest is now 5

mainly because i got yorick two runs in a row

I still won due to my skill so don't worry

in my second run i also got canio

[ripe gull]

gj

i think ur tied for me now and i think u have less hours

i gotta remember how to play the game and get higher

[lament bronze]

Nice

I got uh

Another oc drawn!!

[ripe gull]

gj

[lament bronze]

Idk I haven't done too much these days

[lunar zealot]

dead chat

[violet trail]

Infinite egg

[serene forge]

eh it could be worse

[serene forge]

pretty good jonkler

but parking better

[lunar zealot]

tough tough choice

i think i take bus

[hasty garnet]

Any tips guys to win? Im very new

[lunar zealot]

try not to get fucked by boss blinds

you have a good thing going with aj chad

find a luchador or a suit tarot or whatever

[nova mantle]

delgrat gold sticky!!!

[lunar zealot]

you could also sell out of aj chad and go all in on grimbo

it depends

[hasty garnet]

If i do find those , what do i remove?

[scenic siren]

I've won... 3 times, I'm quite new as well. I suggest latching on to a hand type you enjoy playing, even if it isn't necessarily reliable. It'll keep you having fun and just try hard to get planet and joker cards to match it. Keep it engaging and then learn real plays after getting some wins.

[lunar zealot]

pick a build and stick to it

You have two conflicting builds at the moment

green joker wants you to play and spam pairs and find normal xmult jokers

[vale mesa]

do what you think is the most fun
its a game after all

[lunar zealot]

aj wants you to play a flush and one shot blinds

[scenic siren]

i still have no idea what green joker does

[lunar zealot]

you're on low stakes so aj would definitely be better but sticking with grimbo teaches you more about the game on higher stakes

then again if you're casual feel free to go aj

[hasty garnet]

Cant remove green joker its 24 mult now

[scenic siren]

yall chill they new lol

[lunar zealot]

You certainly can if you find a good joker

[hasty garnet]

Whats aj?

[lunar zealot]

just choose between aj and green if you get the opportunity

because you do have conflicting builds

[lunar zealot]

ancient joker

[hasty garnet]

Realized after i asked

[scenic siren]

If you lose this run I promise you you'll have the best time reaching a win, even if not too fast, if you choose a hand(s) that you like to stick to and just go all out on it's upgrades and jokers

[lunar zealot]

Typically aj is the best xmult joker in its niche

that being a xmult joker that activates (people say it as proc, so remember that terminology) when a card is played and scored

[vale mesa]

its good for flushes

[scenic siren]

Is that not also what Seeing Double does...

[vale mesa]

but you can't make your deck one suit

[lunar zealot]

Seeing double is single instance

[scenic siren]

true

[lunar zealot]

ancient joker is on-scored

[scenic siren]

you can make it 2 with checkered

[hasty garnet]

Im very new and even newer to this poker stuff , i just wanna understand what you mean by a hand i like? You mean a certain playstyle?

[scenic siren]

but not for a nes player

[lunar zealot]

It depends on the game state

[vale mesa]

no i mean you can't play ancient joker with just one suit

[scenic siren]

like a pair, two pair, four of a kind, etc.

[lunar zealot]

on low stakes many many things can work so go with the flow

[scenic siren]

oh

[hasty garnet]

Im just playing randomly unfortunately

[scenic siren]

this exactly

[lunar zealot]

on high stakes you typically want to play the game with a plan but if you get the opportunity to play a different plan go for it

[vale mesa]

cuz its not like idol
it picks a random suit and it doesn't have to be one you have

[scenic siren]

oh gosh...

[lunar zealot]

generally, blue stake's (current, as of patch 1.0.1f) effect of -1 discard heavily discourages playing 5-card hands due to inconsistency in being able to draw them; flush in particular gets significantly more flak due to it not providing nearly as much scaling via planets or consistent joker scaling like straights and saturn/runner, to compensate for its being a 5 card hand
in this sense the evolution of the meta has largely favored pairs due to their generally being easy to draw, easy to make use of in-hand effects such as golds and especially blue seals, and more accessible synergies with jokers such as hologram (more effectively able to scale hologram via bloating the deck if the hand played is largely unaffected by deck size hampering easiness to draw), blackboard (one can play a pair and unscored hearts/diamonds in order to always proc it) and scaling +mult jokers such as green joker (discarding for pairs is redundant)
tl;dr pair good

[median dock]

I WANT TO BEAT PURPLE STAKE

[scenic siren]

ok, well if you lose this run, i suggest choosing a specific hand to play that makes the run fun for you, not necessarily quick though

[lunar zealot]

this isn't set in stone

if you get the order or ancient joker you can play straights or flushes

It depends every run

But when starting a run typically we play pairs

because they're consistent

[scenic siren]

i play two pair 😄

[hasty garnet]

I hope i dont lose tbh , this run looks promising but i feel like i might lose unfortunately

[lunar zealot]

Two pair is in a weird spot

[hasty garnet]

Lmao

[lunar zealot]

it has a niche on plasma deck but is usually outclassed by pair except in one scenario

[scenic siren]

dont worry if you do, just get back at it and choose what you have the most fun with

[scenic siren]

i play 2 pair on nebula rn

[lunar zealot]

that's also good

[scenic siren]

ita also only non color deck i have T-T

i havent beaten a run on anyth other than blue and nebula

[lunar zealot]

spare trousers is one of the best scaling +mult jokers in the game

[hasty garnet]

Im being overloaded with info tbh , for now can you suggest a game plan for the rest of my run? Something simple to understand ? if you want to ofcourse

[lunar zealot]

it scales fast it scales easy and it's uncommon

[lunar zealot]

i'll give you a piece of advice that will help your entire journey of playing balatro

Make money

[hasty garnet]

Damn , i skipped it in the shop when i saw it

[lunar zealot]

money is everything

[scenic siren]

i love me my spare trousers, card sharp, supernova, seeing double combo if i ever get it for 2 pair lol

[hasty garnet]

29 is a decent amount for now i think

[lunar zealot]

If you see a joker that can make you money it will be better than a joker that only slightly helps your scoring (scoring referring to helping you get points in a round)

[vale mesa]

take early investment tags try to keep above $25 for max interest per round

[woven spire]

I love Oops all 6s

[nova mantle]

i love lucky cat

[lunar zealot]

Money is the most important part of balatro

i cant stress it enough

[woven spire]

🤝

[nova mantle]

indeed

[vale mesa]

gold stake with solid rental jokers

[scenic siren]

is Oops just Sixth Sense with 6 high card?

[lunar zealot]

Always always always focus on your money situation

[nova mantle]

playing yellow deck is like putting practice wheels on yo bike if you dont know how to manage econ yet

[lunar zealot]

it's a resource in which you will lose if you don't manage correctly

and i put emphasis on will

Without money you cannot buy anything to make you stronger

[vale mesa]

my two cents is don't skip nearly as much as i do

[nova mantle]

those 10 extra dollars quickly escalate with interest

[lunar zealot]

We tell new players generally not to skip because they're not experienced enough at the game to properly weigh the opportunity cost of skipping vs playing a given blind
because skipping isn't inherently bad, it has a surprising amount of uses, it's just that said uses will have a much less relative chance of being useful in a run as opposed to playing the blind out as the latter leads to a consistent amount of money and joker scaling as well as the opportunity to see the shop

[nova mantle]

we balling

[vale mesa]

need shops

[woven spire]

Juist dont skip at all.

[vale mesa]

well

[lunar zealot]

it's not that simple

[nova mantle]

only worthy skips are investment tag and IMO coupon if you are in ante 1

[opal delta]

hiii

[woven spire]

i mean there are some worth skips

[vale mesa]

depends on the situation tho

[nova mantle]

yeah def

[woven spire]

but 90% of the time is a nono

[lunar zealot]

ante 7 ancient joker and the boss blind is the window

do you play or skip

[nova mantle]

once i won a run by taking a card pack skip just so i could scale hologram

[vale mesa]

juggle tag isn't generally good
but i'd say it's underrated
it can save your run

[woven spire]

whats ur deck looking like and whats ancient on

[vale mesa]

and boss reroll
is obviously very situational

[lunar zealot]

do you want to risk ancient switching to diamonds when the boss blind debuffs diamondd

that's my point

We tell new players generally not to skip because they're not experienced enough at the game to properly weigh the opportunity cost of skipping vs playing a given blind
because skipping isn't inherently bad, it has a surprising amount of uses, it's just that said uses will have a much less relative chance of being useful in a run as opposed to playing the blind out as the latter leads to a consistent amount of money and joker scaling as well as the opportunity to see the shop

[woven spire]

im dumb.

[lunar zealot]

eye doesn't counter half joker

psychic counters half joker

[nova mantle]

appart from the eye countering sharp and psychic with half joker i cant think of once having to reroll a boss

[nova mantle]

i pressed enter by mistake

[lunar zealot]

violet vessel

crimson heart

needle

wall

there are some scenarios where boss reroll can be useful

[nova mantle]

thank you btw i was going to look up the name of psychic

[vale mesa]

ah psychic
generally like the easiest boss blind
uhh but then you forget what the boss blind is and lose

[hasty garnet]

Lol

[woven spire]

DNA and the needle counters my ability to read.

[hasty garnet]

Just wanted to try it since i have it unlocked

And i think i unloced a green one aswell

[vale mesa]

its not bad to play yellow deck

[scenic siren]

so true tho

[hasty garnet]

In the run im doing rn

[woven spire]

idk

fuck idol

[scenic siren]

SPARE TROUSERS ROUND 3 SHOP OMG

[nova mantle]

i dont use it often so i cant vouch for that, but i do remember some runs where buying the boss reroll voucher would have saved me from a crimson heart

[vale mesa]

lol

[scenic siren]

sry i love me my 2 pair

[nova mantle]

tho i like my finisher bosses cafeinated, either i oneshot violet vessel or die miserably

[vale mesa]

spare trousers scales really good but it scales on two pair so idk

[scenic siren]

but i love me a 2 pair sooooo

[lunar zealot]

spare trousers is not brought down by two pair

two pair is good because of spare trousers

in an ideal world two pair is only ever played to scale trousers and to scale obelisk

as well as when one plays plasma deck

[nova mantle]

what about full house

[scenic siren]

and i also have sock and buskin from a judgement already

[vale mesa]

uh why would i buy obelisk
even if i should buy obelisk
do you really think i would

[lunar zealot]

there is 0 reason to play full house

[woven spire]

thats lucky

[nova mantle]

i like to do a bit of deckfixing if im doing a pants run just so i can play full house

[lunar zealot]

because obelisk scales x0.2 mult per hand

[nova mantle]

because the planets scale faster with full house than with two pair

[woven spire]

square joker is underrated

[nova mantle]

faster planet scaling?

[lunar zealot]

5 chips faster than venus

[vale mesa]

no i mean i know obelisk can be good
but i just hate it

[lunar zealot]

and harder to make

[patent prairie]

flush house 🤤

[hasty garnet]

Guys

[woven spire]

no.

[nova mantle]

yeah but if youre playing pants might as well scale onto it

[patent prairie]

yes.

[scenic siren]

i love 2 pair :DDD

[lunar zealot]

just play two pair

[nova mantle]

nah

[woven spire]

at that point just 5oak

[vale mesa]

yeah flush houses scale as well as straight flushes and are just easier

[lunar zealot]

at least then you can build up a buffer for an obelisk pivot

[nova mantle]

i like full housing my deck

[hasty garnet]

Do i get it? If yes then what do I replace?

[scenic siren]

OMG I GOT JOLLY TOO MY LUCK

[vale mesa]

flush houses scale better than 5oak
though 5oak is my favourite hand to play

[nova mantle]

either i fly too close to the sun or not

[lunar zealot]

not really

[hasty garnet]

Damn , i thought i hit the jackpot or something

[scenic siren]

is green joker the +1 per hand -1 per discard?

[woven spire]

yh but the deckfixing is easier, and better for idol

[lunar zealot]

yes

it's quite good

[scenic siren]

ok, then why is it good? am i missing smth

[vale mesa]

true

[lunar zealot]

+1 mult per hand is very good