🕹・game-discussion

[stray swift]

I got a ton of lucky cards

And hanging chad+blueprint

[void topaz]

yeah but consider your other jokers

[stray swift]

It would be a waste of potential

[void topaz]

chad is currently at uhhh wait lemme think

if you copy ancient with blueprint(which is optimal) its 20.25x

[stray swift]

Ill sell chad

Im doing flushes rn

[void topaz]

dawg

lucky cat is not getting to 20.25x

[stray swift]

Listen

You dont see the vision

Im doing flushes which have 3-4 lucky cards

Snb would retrigger them all

[void topaz]

youd need about 6-7 lucky cards per hand for this to work out

[stray swift]

Chad would only retrigger the first one

Trust me

[void topaz]

dawg

this is not real

[stray swift]

What benefit does chad serve

[void topaz]

ITS 20.25X

[stray swift]

?

[void topaz]

you did pick up photo right

[stray swift]

No

[void topaz]

what

huh

[void topaz]

SMEARED JOKER

[stray swift]

🥀

No i love him

[void topaz]

SMEARED JOKER?

[stray swift]

Hes goated with ancient

[void topaz]

littearly no

[stray swift]

Youre not seeing my vision

[void topaz]

ok imagine this

the boss blind is spades

your ancients on clubs

its fine youll play the blind

[stray swift]

Ill reroll the blind

[void topaz]

YOU HAVE REROLL?

WHY IS SMEARED EHRE

[stray swift]

I got the voucher

[void topaz]

please kill smeared

[stray swift]

No im too loyal

[void topaz]

chad could be so awesome

it could be so cool

[stray swift]

I cant…

[balmy ridge]

x

[stray swift]

I cant…

[void topaz]

stop roleplaying and lock in

[stray swift]

Hes a smeared joker to you

To ME

hes just a joker…

Fine

If i lose its on you

[jagged obsidian]

• 4 chips

[sudden river]

deck full of red seal polychrome wilds

[void topaz]

your telling me hes giving you +4 mult

[void topaz]

square joker?

[stray swift]

50 actually

He has foil on🤙

[void topaz]

bitch

MULT

[jagged obsidian]

• 8 chips

[stray swift]

Mb

50 chips actually

[void topaz]

anyway explain to me what smeared is doing

[jagged obsidian]

4 times 4 is 8 of chips

[void topaz]

other than the 50 chips i guess

[jagged obsidian]

what the dog doing?

[stray swift]

I have 15 of each suit

[viral ledge]

whats the move here

[stray swift]

In my deck

[void topaz]

yeah but you have lovers

right

right

right

right

[stray swift]

Let me see

[void topaz]

do it

worth

dont click reroll immiedetly

[stray swift]

I count a total of 2 diamond wilds

[void topaz]

ok make more

[viral ledge]

get the negative chaos?

[void topaz]

yea

[stray swift]

Alright

Goodbye smeared😔

[hidden lance]

hmmmm

[void topaz]

do it

[jagged obsidian]

buy the buffon pack, pick the more valuable and sell it for more money

[jagged obsidian]

Buy the dice and rerroll

[void topaz]

littearly what are you talking about

are you on psychadelics

[jagged obsidian]

infinite money hack

[jagged obsidian]

sell the jokers mults

if isnt negative isnt helping

[void topaz]

what are we saying

[stray swift]

Ok i got brainstorm in shop

What do i say goodbye to

Cat is at 5 rn

Im thinking chad

[terse dock]

Spot the differences

[shell dagger]

it’s right there

[stray swift]

I need more opinions

[lost vault]

there’s a lot of differences

anyway the right one is worded like a scaling joker

[wheat haven]

This is the build

[lost vault]

so i think its wring

[distant vault]

Holy mother of dog shit

[lost vault]

wrong

[stray swift]

Abysmal dogshit

[distant vault]

God damn rentals man

[stray swift]

What do i sell💔💔

[distant vault]

Ante 1 rentals

Just why

[stray swift]

Chad or snb

[distant vault]

Bro still alive

🔥

[stray swift]

I got that jimbo in me

Anything but answering my question

[safe ibex]

MY DNA GOT ECTOED NOOOO

i dont know what to do now. is this just a loss

[stray swift]

Blow yo shi smoove off

[safe ibex]

everything was perfect up until now too

[stray swift]

What do i sell for brainstorm

Chad or snb?

[safe ibex]

negative banner obviously

[stray swift]

I was thinking the negative credit card

[viral ledge]

should i buy shortcut here?

[distant vault]

Bro has the run on life support

[unreal iron]

more snb triggers?

(does snb trigger more?)

[distant vault]

Chickfila

[unreal iron]

10 vs 9 (assuming 2 chads)

yeah sell chad

for sure

[distant vault]

Yeah yeah yeah square joker

[safe ibex]

HES FUCKING TAUNTUING ME

COME ON

REALLY

[wintry ice]

chad unless you play specifically 1 face card

[safe ibex]

IS THIS NECESSARY

one ecto goes wrong and the entire run is dead

[unreal iron]

gay ass move

[viral ledge]

?

[safe ibex]

is it still possible to naneinf or nah

[distant vault]

U gay

[hard plover]

If ur deck is fixed then yeah get him

[distant vault]

The goat has joined the chat

[viral ledge]

the goad

[distant vault]

Hello

[hard plover]

Hi

[distant vault]

Thats me

[shell dagger]

it is

just let it be a lesson to only ecto when it’s safe

[distant vault]

No

I see ecto i take ecto

[patent bridge]

💀

[distant vault]

It is how it is

Thats how the cool people play

None of that safe shit

[uncut umbra]

Guys I think showman likes neptune

[hollow ferry]

why do you have showman this early?

[uncut umbra]

we go gambling

[distant vault]

My type of player

Good on you

[hollow ferry]

do you use oops?

[vocal warren]

jimborg

[distant vault]

No

Why

Do you

[hollow ferry]

a true gambler

imagine increasing your odds

[distant vault]

Imagine winning

Couldn't be me

[placid swift]

its been a good fucking run fellas

[distant vault]

Trollos cookin

Knew it

[uncut umbra]

see showman let's me get double wheel hits

[placid swift]

moar gamba = moar chances =moar score

simple as

[uncut umbra]

real

[safe ibex]

yeahhhh :/

i figured itd be fine bc. you know. it was a 1 in 6

[placid swift]

i used to play with an 100% unlocked save file but switched to grinding naturally, w or L ?

[sour pier]

Anyone only play high card ever these days

Aside from the first couple rounds

Bc that’s me lol

[wintry ice]

Q (it's between them)

[wintry ice]

pairs are usually a direct upgrade

[proper turtle]

Pairs just better

High card is usually when I come across a stuntman

[wary flicker]

high card and pairs yh

[distant vault]

Not terrible

Let's go

[jolly relic]

ooh hack

[distant vault]

Let's go!!!

[desert niche]

i need a perkeo guide

like

once i have perkeo

wth should i do with them

[wary flicker]

another gold stake win!

dupe gold stickers for dagger bull and constellation but

finally painted deck

Everytime I wina gold stake run im like ts so easy lol

[jolly relic]

you cannn.. get a bunch of planets and then a voucher makes them give x mult which is fun

or just get money

orr

naneinf

[wary flicker]

cryptid moment

[desert niche]

should i rather copy and use planet cards? should i moneh? should i tarot?

[jolly relic]

orr..

[desert niche]

im talking gold stake

and plasma specifically i guess

is money better? or planet cards? or tarot cards?

at which point are tarots better than money?

is death better with 1 good card?

[shell dagger]

How longs a piece of string

[jolly relic]

idk

[desert niche]

exatly

[jolly relic]

has anyone used the reroll tag before

[desert niche]

the humble baron:

[safe ibex]

This is all I need right? (Not a screenshot bc I’m afraid of touching my computer lmao)

But this is it right? Or do I have to wait until ante 24

[tropic thicket]

trying to deckfix to heart 2s but haven't got there yet, wee at +1240 chips. what do i do

[distant vault]

Still alive.

[tranquil steppe]

Kill the idol

Or hack if you really want to keep idol

Idk how close you are to a perfect deck fix

[wintry ice]

are we full on chipsmaxing on ghost

[distant vault]

Runs done

Poly skip back at it again

[tranquil steppe]

If you get BP and keep both hacks you can have quad hack powers

[jolly relic]

what happens if you have 2 sixth senses

[polar oar]

Hi, is this the place to ask questions? I'm confused on what the actual threat of Amber Acorn actually is.

[jolly relic]

jokers activate from left to right

and

wait

THAT is the boss blind right

[polar oar]

Yeah, flips and shuffles all Jokers.

[jolly relic]

yes okay

so

[distant vault]

Never doubt my skills

Matador lives

[jolly relic]

if the acorn shuffles your x mult to the left and you have a base mult joker that means you will like score way less

and

blueprints and brainstorms will be copying different stuff

if you have them

[distant vault]

Hack did not make it unfortunately

[polar oar]

I don't have any of that or x mults. Does this mean it does effectively nothing then since none of what I have is position dependant?

[jolly relic]

because there wont be any mult to actually have the x mult be effective

[jolly relic]

so you just have chips?

[distant vault]

What the fuck

[tropic thicket]

ran out of cards, discarded too hard for immolate

[polar oar]

I do have mults, but not multiplications to mults.
I currently have:
Four Fingers, so nothing to do with scoring
Shortcut, nothing to do with scoring as well
Runner, which is currently up to +420 chips
Supernova, which currently gives my straights (my build) a mult of +36 and counting
And finally Red Card with a mult bonus of +30.

[tropic thicket]

fyi my mult was dependent on lucky cards so i wasn't entirely dependent on chips

[jolly relic]

amber acorn doesnt affect this build at all

[distant vault]

I respect the build

[jolly relic]

besides like being able to see ur chips and whatnot

but

you can still get around that i think

aw man having 2 sixth senses only gives one spectral

[polar oar]

I'm immune, nice! Thanks for the help, I'm new so I currently don't grasp some of the concepts very well.

[jolly relic]

ywa theres like a bunch of smarter people here

I mean

smarter

than me

that can help you

better

[polar oar]

I feel like it was adequate, though I don't know too much yet so I might be wrong(?) 🤷

Helps a lot to know this though 👍

[safe ibex]

oh well

haha 67 or something

[sour pier]

Anyone fk w zodiac deck a lot?

@glad sequoia “Constellation on zodiac deck with liquidation goes nuts”. Woud be nice to have blueprint eh

I love high card w zodiac.

I haven’t gotten that road sign joker and have a few hundred hours in the game I think. Wtf is that

[frank grove]

I love zodiac deck

[kindred jasper]

Got very lucky I didn't face a plant this run

[bitter spade]

have been like 2 months without playing, still have the touch

[pale wolf]

hi check out balatro university 's beginner playlists :)

[spice glen]

Is the cavendish worth?

[pale wolf]

also feel.free to send screenshots lol

[pale wolf]

over a perishable purple joker, id assume yes??

[spice glen]

I thought so too but I doubted it for a sec cuz I wouldn’t have a good flat +mult

[pale wolf]

unless its over uhh 40 or you want to get rid of half joker for it for just the final boss blind

[spice glen]

+38 so basically +40

[pale wolf]

or you kill.rocket bc econ dont matter anymore

[polar oar]

Duly noted, I'll add that to my watch later 👍

[spice glen]

but the baseball card :—(

[pale wolf]

meh 3x

maybe you kill half then

[spice glen]

Yh I think I’ll do tha

thx

[sour pier]

Hot dam brotha

[royal ore]

holy

[shy stirrup]

...nice

[distant vault]

I love zodiac.

I really do.

[nova junco]

Ok erratic deck is being worse than I thought

[obsidian oracle]

campfire my beloved

[nova junco]

I thought it'd be one of the easiest but it's actually being pretty tricky

[nova junco]

Early game is so weird like everything I know from other decks just doesn't apply here

Wanna do the classic 1 shot straight? NUH HUH

[rigid forge]

who needs deckfixing on gold stake when you can just get certificate value from ante 1?

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[barren wigeon]

WE hate bloodstone ❤️

[novel hound]

i love it when i get solid runs

[barren wigeon]

are we gonna address the elephant in the room

[novel hound]

am i copying wrong or is it throwback

[barren wigeon]

your copying is fine

[cloud sinew]

I GOT JIMBO PLUSH AND BALATRO PLAYING CARDS FOR CHRISTMAS

RAHHHH

[barren wigeon]

its throwback its always throwback

the elephant in the room is always throwback

[novel hound]

i got the playing card deck cause i wanted the jokers

[uncut matrix]

can you normally get a nat neg invis

[barren wigeon]

yes

[uncut matrix]

what happens if you sell it but your slots are full

[barren wigeon]

you go overboard

[pale wolf]

balatro

[uncut matrix]

oh its not a glitch?

[novel hound]

true tho

[serene forge]

I hate Throwback

[cloud sinew]

x+1/x, you can't take any jokers until you sell a non-negative, you can't even take negative jokers

[uncut matrix]

i have mods on so i thought steammodded made it go over when it shouldnt

dam

[obsidian oracle]

fuck you black deck

[uncut matrix]

guess i should be grateful it was bp

[novel hound]

selling throwback in honor of skipping beings buns even though i do it

[acoustic kettle]

Erratic should randomise joker's values

[obsidian oracle]

glitched?

[acoustic kettle]

It is erratic

Why not go all in on the randomness

[distant vault]

Abk on fire

[obsidian oracle]

random amount of blinds per ante, random amount of scoring req, random number of antes

[distant vault]

Scoring requirements values too

[acoustic kettle]

Too random

It is still vanilla balatro

[distant vault]

Randomize shop cost

[obsidian oracle]

ono

[distant vault]

Popcorn at $49:

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[novel hound]

i fixed my build guys are you happy

[cloud sinew]

i love my jimplush

[void topaz]

goated run

i wouldve won without ft but he made it easier

[wheat haven]

I wanna sell bus to sticker castle , If I throw I'll be mad

Nevermind I found a hack 🫡

[sour pier]

Nowhere near as good as most of u but I love my zodiac runs 🙂

[wheat haven]

Guys if my hiker is debuffed at the end of the game do I still get the sticker I forgot

[frank grove]

yes

[wheat haven]

Stickers make you do crazy stuff, just sold a 76 mult polychrome bus for a judgement

Look at all those stickers 🔥

[marsh goblet]

chat should i take this skip

it's yellow deck idk if it's worth it

y'know what new territory for me im just gonna try it

lol no

[acoustic kettle]

It is poly

[marsh goblet]

yeah but like

there's better xmult down the road

[distant vault]

How abk always cookin

I don't get it

[uncut matrix]

inevitable :(

[marsh goblet]

i have 6 kings but i don't think im gonna need the baron, it's only ante 3 and i kinda need some scoring rn so i kinda want to sac baron to the dagger

[uncut matrix]

the lack of vouchers is killing an otherwise amazing run

[lime dirge]

IM DOING IT

[shy stirrup]

This was a fun Aces run

I got the eternal odd todd when I desperately needed chips and I decided to roll with it

[lime dirge]

also is my build good? im going for a pair/face card build

[distant vault]

Dagger pointing at hallucination. Damn

Holding him hostage

[marsh goblet]

NOOOOO

DAGGER KILLED LICENSE

IM A FUCKING DUMBASS

im killing myself

[sour pier]

Just hit a 1 hand Pr can a get a noice

[serene forge]

i love my gf

[lime dirge]

the smiley face right?'

i dont see any other way

[serene forge]

nothing goes

[sour pier]

The castle id think

[serene forge]

unless you really need that smiley face mult for some reason

[serene forge]

[sour pier]

Who needs that shit

Hahaha

[lime dirge]

i need to delete a joker for the boss

[serene forge]

no you don't

read it again

[marsh goblet]

what is chad retriggering

[wheat haven]

you shouldnt need to sell anything if you have mult on your trousers

[marsh goblet]

if ur cards are debuffed

just sell it

[serene forge]

that's true actually

[sour pier]

Oh yeah

[serene forge]

but realistically nothing actually needs to be sold here because nothing relies on card scoring

[marsh goblet]

yeah

[lime dirge]

true, i might be able to beat it without selling

[sour pier]

U mfers and your rules

I’m gonna go do simpler things

[lime dirge]

yeah i should

20k per pair yep

its cutting it closer than i like

[marsh goblet]

u don't really need xmult for runs until green stake

[marsh goblet]

yo chat do i buy this gift card and hold onto it for a while

i feel like i'd have to replace superposition for it

[lime dirge]

it was just the cards I got, I didnt really have a chance to do anything else

[marsh goblet]

dang that sucks

[lime dirge]

naw its a good build

consistent

[marsh goblet]

yeah but ur setup would lose on higher stakes

[lime dirge]

i got like 36x on spare trousers

[marsh goblet]

im wondering what there is in the seed to get more score

[marsh goblet]

oh that's super low

trousers normally easily reach 60+

explains why ur cutting it close lol

[lime dirge]

ik, i got them like ante 5

or smt

and i skipped like every small blind

[marsh goblet]

yo riff-raff and gift card go crazy together

[wary flicker]

and campfire/dagger

[vocal rose]

stop that

[marsh goblet]

mr crabssss~ i have an idea~~~~

[lime dirge]

i won didnt i? (Ik, im doing endless rn and im using small binds to farm trousers)

[vocal rose]

you can win doing unoptimal plays and strats

[marsh goblet]

chat lowkey what do i need money for rn

[vocal rose]

red card

that’s what you need money for

[marsh goblet]

oh yeah the money goes back into red card

[vocal rose]

so take hermy

[lime dirge]

wah wah un-optimal vs chad gambler

[marsh goblet]

supernova yay or nay

im not playing pairs

cuz flushes are level 5

[wary flicker]

meh then imo

you have red card

[marsh goblet]

it's eternal tho

eh i'll probably get more from just value generators

[terse vale]

hermy hermi hermé

[vocal rose]

no

[wheat haven]

game saw me hex a sock and buskin so it offered me negative bus

[marsh goblet]

man im getting a lot of hermits

im not complaining but like i wanna scale red card lol

HOLY SHIT IM GONNA LOSE MY MIND

there's no fucking way

[lime dirge]

gg was fun run

[brave stirrup]

Your joker order disgusts me

[marsh goblet]

ah, cool.

i don't need it but it's nice

3x constellation and 6.5x madness

this run is insane

+48 red card

lmao i can ankh the shiny astronomer

[distant vault]

Yes

[marsh goblet]

yo this seed funny as fuck

NOOO IT'S TRUB

TRIB

i have no deck fixing rip

still 4x on my pair tho

[brave goblet]

[marsh goblet]

i take it

holy shit that temperance value is INSANE

[lime dirge]

no way i win this run

had such shit rng

do i gamble it or just take the buff

[pine sorrel]

where should i put my blueprint to win pls help (im going insane and also too tired to calculate)

[marsh goblet]

im getting spectral cards like it's fuckin ghost deck holy shit

[lime dirge]

Baseball card most likely?

remind me what glass does

[marsh goblet]

GYAAAAAAAAAT

[lime dirge]

🥹

[lime dirge]

either ballot or baseball

ill calculate it if you remind me the stats of the glass

[charred flame]

Nah

I lose

Sorry it's in spanish

[serene forge]

average r/balatro user found in their natural habitat

[fiery nymph]

i cannot stand obby hate

[minor portal]

hit the road still isn't at the bottom of the tier list, this is a win

[indigo laurel]

First shop 6$
Trading card, emperor and buffoon pack
Whats yall choice

[serene forge]

either trading card or buffoon

[distant vault]

purely based on fun

[marsh goblet]

pog hex target

[lavish nacelle]

I almost lost, I had bad luck with the lucky cards

1000 chips

[novel hound]

raised fist can be good in early game if you can’t find anything super good

[serene forge]

apparently the joker that saves your triboulet and shit from getting crushed by bosses is no fun

[distant vault]

Well, yeah. It can be unfun.

Chicot is very good for example. Boring as fuck though.

[lavish nacelle]

Yeah, I see the vision

[distant vault]

Thats why I dislike chicot.

But people immediately think unfun = bad

[safe ibex]

you say this until chigoat saves your run from the plant

[signal jewel]

Just finished may first unseeded nan inf run after 3hours 😭 after 140 ingame hrs

[distant vault]

Chicot has saved me many times

[safe ibex]

glory to chicot may he reign eternal

[lavish nacelle]

Is like having 3 photo chads and other 3 photographs, it's very good, not really that fun tho

[distant vault]

I would still rather have canio or yorick

[distant vault]

Yup

Or perkeo.

[lavish nacelle]

The funniest runs I had is with deadass really bad joker but that have some synergy

Like Midas and vampire joker

[distant vault]

This is why I poly skip on ghost

Im bored and want a challenge or something interesting

[lavish nacelle]

Or like the pirate joker and egg and that one joker that raises all other joker value

[shell dagger]

Ghost deck without poly skip

[north spindle]

isnt poly skip especially garbage on ghost deck lol

bc hex

[distant vault]

Yes

[north spindle]

credit card in buffoon pack

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[distant vault]

Still won

[serene forge]

buy hack and hex

[distant vault]

Its over

Its done

[serene forge]

buy hack and hex

[distant vault]

Okay

🙏

Time to holo skip

[lyric shore]

is midas a bad joker

[north spindle]

in my estimation midas is fairly strong

[distant vault]

Holo skip worse than foil and poli

[minor turtle]

what's the optimal order here running flush

[lavish nacelle]

Well, it's good economy, but not crazy by itself

[distant vault]

I dint think it matters

[serene forge]

holding r

[lavish nacelle]

Maybe put one flush multiplier at first place

[minor turtle]

And if I get Chad?

[lyric shore]

copy photo

[lavish nacelle]

Well

Yeah

[lyric shore]

like normal

[minor turtle]

Okok thank you

[lavish nacelle]

It's good, but just that, nothing crazy

[north spindle]

idk i feel like its stronger than merely "good"

[lyric shore]

no midas is crazy

[distant vault]

Fuck photochad

[lyric shore]

it's 12 gold cards in 1 ante

[north spindle]

like its gotta be one of the strongest econ jokers in the game (assuming ur not playing abandoned deck)

[distant vault]

The humble golden joker

[lavish nacelle]

I don't know, it's really good economy, but not that crazy, and if you wanna get value on the gold card you would have to play only number cards

[north spindle]

midas is better mostly

[lavish nacelle]

I mean, yeah that's okay, but not that crazy

[lavish nacelle]

Way better

[distant vault]

But I like earning money for doing nothing

[north spindle]

takes longer to start going but a) you can sell midas and keep all the value and b) way higher cap

[distant vault]

[lavish nacelle]

As I said, really good economy, but that's it

[distant vault]

Buff golden joker and make it $25

[north spindle]

it's really good economy that also doesn't actually take a joker slot in the late game

and is almost as good even if its perishable

[lavish nacelle]

It stops having value at second maybe third ante if you don't have vampire joker

[lyric shore]

the money it gives you early is the value

[north spindle]

yeah you sell it if you need $ or room in the joker slots once u get all the gold cards

[lavish nacelle]

Yeah it's good economy, but you can't keep relying on golden card for economy for the 8 antes

[lyric shore]

yes you can?

[novel hound]

minus mult 😭

[lavish nacelle]

Yeah, very good, but that's all

[lost vault]

im lowk a baddie

[lyric shore]

its likely 2 gold cards a round

at least

[lavish nacelle]

Well yeah you can, not really a very practical use

[lyric shore]

what is impractical about 6-9 dollars per round

[lavish nacelle]

Uh huh, assuming you ain't using face cards at all

[lavish nacelle]

You can get way more money by other ways

[lyric shore]

9 per round is very good econ and it requires very little

[lavish nacelle]

Yeah, I didn't say it was bad, it's just good, just good

Low effort good value

But that's it

It's not that strong

[dire gazelle]

guys, is there any reason NOT to skip first small blind in red chip difficulty?

[lyric shore]

so so many reasons

[lavish nacelle]

Yeah

I won't skip small blind

[north spindle]

$6 per round is already on par with most econ jokers and those actually take up space in ur slots indefinitely

[lavish nacelle]

Almost always is better to play the small blind

[dire gazelle]

even the first one? as it does not give money right?

[lyric shore]

i think the only better econ is rebate

[north spindle]

its not mail in rebate but mail in rebate is another level of nuts to everything else

[lyric shore]

you get hand money and a guaranteed joker

[shell dagger]

You get money from leftover hands and a shop which is more reliable than a skip 14 times out of 15

[lavish nacelle]

I mean yeah, but jokers that take an space are way better economy, even more if we are talking about face cards

[dire gazelle]

alright, ty guys

[lavish nacelle]

As I already said guys, it's a good joker, but it's not super good

It's like an 8/10

[lyric shore]

what is better econ besides rebate

[shell dagger]

Fwiw i would take an eternal rental Midas mask in ante 1

[north spindle]

which ones? like the ones that can consistently score >6 per round are
mail in rebate (stupid strong)
cloud 9 (slow to come online)
rocket (slow to come online)

buisness card can but requires some combination of synergies or heavy-ish deckfixing

[stray tusk]

ahhhhhh

holy shit

I have been playing for like

20 hours now

roguelikes are awesome!!!!

[north spindle]

also a nice thing abt the gold cards from midas mask is that you can like
continue to improve your ability to get gold cards in hand to scale econ throughout the game

[stray tusk]

(and no, I have been playing not only balatro but also FTL)

[tranquil steppe]

Midas is good very early game but that’s about it

[lyric shore]

it sets you up the entire game for 0 effort

how do you lose with 12 gold cards in ante 2

[north spindle]

i mean it pays out pretty quick
even ante 6 it seems like it could be reasonable sometimes

[lavish nacelle]

I mean, talking about face combo sock and bustin I think it's called and bussines card can give you up yo 20 dollars, and personally i've never got less than 6-8 dollars, and it synergyses with other face related cards, so yeah, lucky cards and a opa6's can give alot of money and almost always I get the 20 dollars with this combo, talking with personal experience, and it's a fairly strong combo by itself not only talking about economy

[north spindle]

ante 4< its crazy value

[lavish nacelle]

A little bit harder to get, but way more value

Like

Crazy more value

[tranquil steppe]

Yea that’s why it’s good early on. Not great later game if you’ve already enhanced face cards

[lyric shore]

so 3 jokers with perfect synergy and full setup are better than 1 with no setup

[tranquil steppe]

And it can only enhance 12 cards from the get go barring you getting other face cards

[lavish nacelle]

Not even perfect

You are pushing it too much

[lost vault]

i like balatro but i like kissing boys more

[stray tusk]

O.o

[lyric shore]

sock and business card and dice is unrealistic

[tranquil steppe]

That’s hot

[lavish nacelle]

Not even 3 you can get it separate

And still will be good

[lost vault]

:3

[north spindle]

its pretty late game to not be worthwhile imo
also usually i prioritize numbers/aces for enhancements for multiple reasons (including midas mask's existance)

[lavish nacelle]

Not saying you got to have it all together, but still really good, and it still will be good up to high antes

Only with dice lucky cards I got to 100 dollars easily

I've got to 400 dollars just with replays so

Yeah

I think is better

[ripe gull]

If you arent talking endless midas mask if you are golden ticket and parking

[lavish nacelle]

I'm also taking in my experience, if you have other experiences, okay, but from the hours i've played those guys have helped a ton a lot more

And you also need other joker to give value to number cards so you can stall more easily those face golden cards

So

Yeah

[lyric shore]

wdym give value to number cards

[ripe gull]

Para ig

[north spindle]

face cards dont natively do that much past the first 2 antes

the chips difference becomes irrelevant pretty quick

[ripe gull]

Unless like StM or HtR

[lavish nacelle]

Well, you cant survive only playing number cards without something that gives you chips or mult

Well

[north spindle]

well thats why i said natively
there are reasons to actively want to play face cards or whatever

[lavish nacelle]

You can

But not that practical

[north spindle]

(though stm also loves midas mask lol)

[ripe gull]

Ah im a balatro player i cant read

[lavish nacelle]

Yeah but there's more face cards combos that are way better

[ripe gull]

Every jokers loves midas its the best econ joker

[lyric shore]

you think its better than rebate?

[ripe gull]

It is

For non endless

[lavish nacelle]

I also love Midas, but not that crazy

[north spindle]

the only big face card play combo i can think of is photochad which actually likes midas mask still

[lavish nacelle]

Nah, rebate ita just to good

You can get up to 20 if you are a little bit lucky

[ripe gull]

There are like 3 jokers that like face cards lol

[lavish nacelle]

Worst case you get 5 dollars

[ripe gull]

That are relevant

[lavish nacelle]

Still so much

[nova junco]

What

There's way more than 3 I'm pretty sure?

[ripe gull]

That are relevant

As i said under it

[nova junco]

If you're not talking about ante 16 then most face cards jokers don't really become irrelevant

[lavish nacelle]

I mean are we talking to get what, cuz to win you could win even with smile scary face combo and a simple multiplier, as I said, simple enough, it's harder to win with number cards, number cares have kinda of worse combos with not that much of value

[lost vault]

bwaa

[ripe gull]

StM HtR and photochad

[lyric shore]

ante 8 duh

[ripe gull]

And photochad is somewhat stretching it because it doesn't care all that much about face cards in this context due to glass cards

[lavish nacelle]

Like this run, really good, all synergy, only got like to 200,000,000 million

[north spindle]

also parking/ buisness card/ midas mask (and maybe suskin?)

[nova junco]

Theres parking and business card, there's scary face which can be really good and ofc there's the legendaries but I won't even count them

[merry violet]

Good joker set up?

[lavish nacelle]

With photo Chad I got to e numbers so

[ripe gull]

Yea but those arent scoring

[nova junco]

There's sock and buskin

[ripe gull]

Those are short term econ jokers

[lavish nacelle]

Yeah

[wintry ice]

smiley is replaceable this late

[nova junco]

Midas mask too right

[lyric shore]

are you basing quality around its ability to reach high scores

[north spindle]

buisness card is real for sure

[nova junco]

Parking is one of the least short term econ jokers in the game what are you talking about

[ripe gull]

Parking and business are earlier game econ jokers scary is useless in context for the most part and trib sucks ass

[north spindle]

parking usually feels underwhelming to me

[lavish nacelle]

I basing it also on that it was hard as fuck to get that and the low value that gave back

[ripe gull]

For gold stake ante 8? Im not wasting those cards which could be gold or blue seal for the chance at $1

[nova junco]

Did you just say a x32 BASE sucks ass

[ripe gull]

Trib sucks ass

If I had a free 32x base its good

[wintry ice]

don't most scaling joker combos get there

[lavish nacelle]

It was a work of like 5 antes and still not that crazy

[ripe gull]

Trib sucks ass

[north spindle]

trib is fine
it can be the worst legendary and still be pretty strong

[wintry ice]

200mil is more than enough to beat ante 8 on gold stake

[nova junco]

8 ball sucks ass anything better than that you can't really just say it sucks

[lavish nacelle]

Yeah, but in 5 antes is crazy

[ripe gull]

Yea but not as much in context since it tends to be like worse photochad in gs runs

[wintry ice]

you were missing stacking xmult

so

[wintry ice]

?

what point are you trying to make

[ripe gull]

Yea but mostly short term I meant in context of long term

[wintry ice]

the usual fundamentals work there

it's the default deck

[ripe gull]

More digging for blue seals and gold cards

Abuse it

Also rebate

[wintry ice]

yea

[nova junco]

That the jokers that actually suck are very few in the game

[lavish nacelle]

I got negative Cavendish later and I think the 4 of a kind multiplier, and yeah it's good but not that much growth potential

[north spindle]

i mean getting "photochad" in a single card is still nice
with boss mitigation it kind of just wins the game

[ripe gull]

Idol seance all page 1 jokers throwback baron tribe

There are a lot lol

[north spindle]

ive used it long term
its not the best but its workable

[wintry ice]

trib is about as good as aj and fibbonacci

which is like

[nova junco]

Page 1 jokers don't cost much and can get you through ante 2 I'm taking that

[wintry ice]

somewhere in A tier

[lavish nacelle]

Idol is such a hater

[ripe gull]

Yea but boss mitigation is few and far between and you have less score since you don't have a single glass card making all your boss problems go away

[ripe gull]

Not for long term bru

[frank grove]

page 1 jokers are so nice and then you click to the second page and then its a mess

like in the order of them

[nova junco]

Baron is hella fun and tribe is fine, the others yeah not that great

[ripe gull]

Eh A-

[lyric shore]

tribe is not fine

[lavish nacelle]

Eh, I don't think trib is that meh, it's kinda good, can make a new player win a run easily

[nova junco]

Yeah but surviving until you reach the long term is just as important

[ripe gull]

Something being fun doesnt mean its good in context and tribe is so ass outside of AJ runs

[lavish nacelle]

I would prefer any other legendary, but yeah it's fine

[ripe gull]

And most long term jokers score short term

[wintry ice]

having to rely on draw odds and being vulnerable to bosses makes it less consistent than most main scoring options

[nova junco]

"scaling"

[lyric shore]

it also fits into few runs so its sold very often

[wintry ice]

where does the "x reaction with no counterargument" come from

[nova junco]

Ragebait

[wintry ice]

bus and supernova give enough mult to deal with earlygame

[ripe gull]

Most scalers are good for when you pick them up

[lavish nacelle]

Yeah, that's why I said just fine☝

[wintry ice]

i don't think it's ragebait if it's very easily verifiable

[ripe gull]

Prob me ngl cuz sometimes I do it while typing and reply later

[nova junco]

ALL scalers score exactly 0 the moment you pick them up

[lavish nacelle]

Also the rarity of legendarys I think it just makes them not that reliable

[wintry ice]

bus, supernova, green and pants all scale before the hand score

[lavish nacelle]

You can't look for them that consistently

[ripe gull]

Most of them are outside of trib

[wintry ice]

what do you mean "score literally 0"

[frank grove]

I guess in princible thats correct, but like? if you pick up hologram and theres a standard are you not taking the standard right away for .25x anyway?

[ripe gull]

Due to how strong they are

[primal rock]

And swashbuckler, abstract joker

[ripe gull]

Outside maybe perkeo but that's why its 2nd worst

[nova junco]

I mean you're not gonna wait for a soul to win a run, but when you get them early enough it's justifiable to build around them

[north spindle]

i mean the other piece of it is that it gives you the space to spend most of your money on searching for boss protection/hacking together a way around the plant if it shows up

[lyric shore]

ok there is lots of retroactive scaling

[lavish nacelle]

Wdym

[wintry ice]

yorick, canio, chicot and perkeo don't need much work

[nova junco]

You're not always gonna have a standard pack though

[wintry ice]

you can just slap them onto most builds before ante 6

[lyric shore]

building around trib early is tough and later you probably dont want it

[ripe gull]

most of them you can play around de to how strong they are

[nova junco]

Arguably that's true for all 5

[lavish nacelle]

Yeah but that's the thing, "if you get them early enough" You can't look for them that consistently

[ripe gull]

chicot is insta value yorick is the best scaler in the game canio can spiral fast

[wintry ice]

what do i do if i get trib in the midgame and my deck isn't built around face cards

[lyric shore]

how do i put a trib in a green and square joker run

[wintry ice]

do a complete u-turn?

[ripe gull]

and then die to plant

[lavish nacelle]

That's what I'm saying

[nova junco]

Play face cards

[ripe gull]

and or the other like 5 bosses which kill it

[ripe gull]

waiter waiter more +5 mult legendary

[wintry ice]

for a joker that's likely less consistent than what i currently have?

for a reward that doesn't matter in the span of 8 antes?

[ripe gull]

ngl there are a lot of spots in runs that it isnt worth grabbing soul specifically because trib exists

[nova junco]

Get planets man it's not that complicated

[north spindle]

which other bosses lol

[nova junco]

If you're ante 7 with a solid build then you don't take soul at all

[wintry ice]

so why not go with the strategy that might not be dependant on planets instead

[ripe gull]

so my 100k+ scoring requirement i need to also get planets because i used square and groker for scoring and also not die due to having sold a joker to get it in the first place

and also deck fix so i dont die to drawing rng

[nova junco]

No reason to, that's like the whole idea behind roguelikes

[lavish nacelle]

That's what I'm saying, you need them early so you can play around them, and even if you have jokers that synergyses with them you would need to find the legendary you need so, not that consistent

[royal ore]

use trib to gain $10

[north spindle]

i mean i dont take soul in general if i've already got a won run

[wintry ice]

well yorick, canio, chicot and perkeo take very little to make use out of

[royal ore]

• that one player who really overvalues smiley face

[wintry ice]

trib wants you to go with 1 of 2 specific face cards which is more of a commitment than people think

[ripe gull]

suit bosses can if you get unlucky trying to not die and also deck fix and get the wrong thing hook rng can murder you same with water manacle mouth and serpent

pillar can ngl

so can needle for same reasons as drawing rng

[royal ore]

vessel and wall are just annoying

[wintry ice]

needle is worse than water in the context of gold stake

[lavish nacelle]

I mean yeah, but if you are in a late ante and already have some good combo joker, would you rather sacrifice something there for a fairly strong joker but not that helpful or consistent

[ripe gull]

hell even like mark can sometimes due to getting trolled by not getting the hand u have planets are

[wintry ice]

which is where the draw rng argument matters

[wintry ice]

you usually skip souls in ante 6 and above so yeah

[dark cairn]

Nice

[ripe gull]

somehow trib almost manages to have the same amount of boss problems as HtR

[wintry ice]

i was talking like

ante 4 or 5

[north spindle]

suit bosses have easy protection
if you're fixing hook,water,manacle,mouth,serpent shouldn't be a problem
pillar you can just skip if it's a problem

[ripe gull]

the literal joker that is the die to boss blind joker

[lavish nacelle]

Yeah that's what I mean

[royal ore]

my main problem with HtR is that it never shows up and it's one of the 2 jokers i still haven't gold stickered

[ripe gull]

so when i get it a5 or a6 and have 1-2 antes to deck fix and had to sell a joker to get trib

and then die

[wintry ice]

"if you're fixing" and that's the part that makes it inconsistent

[dark cairn]

skipping a soul card is a cardinal sin imo

[lavish nacelle]

As what

[wintry ice]

you need to deckfix for it

[dark cairn]

unless you already gold stickered every legendary joker

[wintry ice]

hit the road

[ripe gull]

HtR is stupid busted if it didnt have the die to 9000 bosses attribute lol

[nova junco]

When you have a build where selling one joker dismantles the whole thing no it's not

[wintry ice]

i trust that htr will be good enough to not need a buff after the blue stake rework

[lavish nacelle]

Oh, not really play it much, I think I only have one rum were I played around it

[ripe gull]

eh still dies to 90% of bosses

and hard dies to 2

[alpine nest]

HRT is always busted

[ripe gull]

idt it needs buffs but

[ripe gull]

hi yuki

[alpine nest]

Hi

[nova junco]

HELL YEAH

[ripe gull]

rare wall in game discussion moment

[nova junco]

I hope there's hrt in the new update

[wintry ice]

it's more interesting as a mediocre joker instead of a good one anyways

[lavish nacelle]

The wall will always be my most hated boss blind

[north spindle]

if you have 5 strong jokers ante 5 i just wouldn't sell them for a soul

[ripe gull]

yea it ends up falling B tier cuz of it

[ripe gull]

if you have 5 strong jokers you live if u have 5 jokers that are weak and need something more to live but rely on each other

ur prob dead if u hit trib

[frank grove]

also it being a rare makes it slightly worse, but like i think its fine as a rare its interesting which is fun

[wintry ice]

the window for bosses to kill it isn't as huge anyways because xmult is only mandatory after ante 6 or above

[lavish nacelle]

When you get it early its like facing death penalty, I have only died to the wall on early antes never on 5'th or bigger antes

[nova junco]

I've done bloodstone runs with oops, a retrigger and whatever else and so selling a single one of those meant dying so yeah

[north spindle]

in that situation you're probably dead unless you hit something that actively synergizes

[ripe gull]

yea fair but if u get it earlier u kinda gotta build into it

[ripe gull]

no you arent most of the time because something like a 2-3x can win you the run

getting trib loses

[north spindle]

oh you mean your immediate scoring is fine but you need something later

[ripe gull]

yea more like

[north spindle]

i mean yeah that's why its the weakest legendary

[lavish nacelle]

I mean yeah, early legendatys are really really strong, but thats the think "early"

[worn valve]

can you get ante 39 with yorik

[tranquil steppe]

Chicot?

[ripe gull]

wasnt talking about a legendary and trib still sucks ass early

[ripe gull]

i mean you can get to ante 39 while having yorick

it wont do anything

[worn valve]

no i mean only yorick

[nova junco]

Yeah because the weakest legendary is the xMult and not the one that literally does nothing two thirds of the time and raises your score by exactly 0 chips

[north spindle]

like if you weren't winning the game and you sold some irrelevant joker for soul then trib isn't saving you but it also isn't worse than not selling the card since u were losing anyways

[lavish nacelle]

I mean yeah, but Yorik can stop growing that big if you already have an good construct of a deck

[ripe gull]

not unless you have a dreamo seed and have other jokers and sell them to copy yorick only

[frank grove]

if you do ecto, anhk copies using perkeo then yes

[worn valve]

no only one yorick

[ripe gull]

not even close

[tranquil steppe]

Yorick is goated

[wintry ice]

trib?

[worn valve]

but u can discard??

[ripe gull]

litterally less then 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of the way

to getting to ante 39

[worn valve]

how you can scale it infinetely

[ripe gull]

i could hold 0 but discord would stop me from having the character limit

[lyric shore]

they mean chicot i think

[north spindle]

chicot makes the most dangerous antes not exist

[lavish nacelle]

Suck ass? I think it's a little bit of an exaggeration, I only got 1 time an ante 1 trib and got to e39 with it

[nova junco]

Um ante 39 has 300 zeroes in your score

[frank grove]

there are only so many rounds you survive

[wintry ice]

chicot is insurance

[lavish nacelle]

Obviously with a good synergy

[ripe gull]

e39 means nothing in non endless and in endless its still ass

[worn valve]

wdym

[lyric shore]

not with passives no

[ripe gull]

doesnt work

[wintry ice]

and if a joker needed to directly score to be good then rebate wouldn't be a contender for best joker in the game

[nova junco]

Naneinf is a number with 300 zeroes

[north spindle]

also with chicot you can just double down into whatever you already have with no contingency plan for bosses becaause they can't touch you

[ripe gull]

idt it is but

cook ig

[lavish nacelle]

I mean, is still something, I don't think a suck ass joker would get you there

[worn valve]

what number tho

[wintry ice]

a lot of people here think it is so

[ripe gull]

idol can you get there

idol is the single worst joker in the game

[frank grove]

and he allows you to do more interesting things without being scared of bosses as much

[ripe gull]

doesnt mean anything

[lavish nacelle]

Yeah but idol is other level

[nova junco]

Idk the exact one but do you really need to know lol

[worn valve]

bro forget chicot 😂

[worn valve]

yeah i wanna know if its possible

[ripe gull]

chicot is the 3rd best legend but some respect

[dark cairn]

i mean yeah but it still feels wrong to let it go even when it is so rare
like if you have no choice i get it but it still feels bad

[lavish nacelle]

And also it does the same that trib, but with way more limitations

[dark cairn]

chicot actually saves your ass though

[wintry ice]

because the joker that does nothing unless it's in a situation where you win without it is better than the joker that does something when you need it to

[nova junco]

If you can discard 10^300 cards then yeah it is

[lavish nacelle]

You said it, single

[worn valve]

i mean without the e

[ripe gull]

what

[lyric shore]

bro its right there

[ripe gull]

your grammar is giving me a stroke i cant tell what you are trying to say

[worn valve]

wair actually

[frank grove]

yeah

[worn valve]

oh nvm it not possible with yorick

[wintry ice]

the chance for idol to do nothing in a run

[nova junco]

What do you think I meant with "300 zeroes" aside from literally 300 zeroes

[ripe gull]

highest world record for yorick is x1884

[worn valve]

like the number is small

[ripe gull]

not even close to putting a dent into that

[nova junco]

What

[cosmic sun]

chicot haters would go into the plant with a photochad build glassless

[worn valve]

what if u have like 3 of them

[lavish nacelle]

Like, saying a joker is bad cuz just by itself can't do much it's crazy logic

[ripe gull]

still not even close

[dark cairn]

i thought 4.8e308 was 480 uncentillion not 4.8 duocentillion

[ripe gull]

idol is horrible

single worst is a phrase

[dark cairn]

4.8 duocentillion would be 4.8e309

[ripe gull]

its the worst joker in the game

[nova junco]

I'm sorry but do you know multiplication😭

[worn valve]

bc of the zeroes

[wintry ice]

i don't think that's their point

[worn valve]

its like 1000^3

[lavish nacelle]

English is not my first language, not a reason for you to be rude.

[nova junco]

WHAT ARE YOU ONTO

[frank grove]

which is the ante 39 scoring requirement ante 39 just equals naneinf

[nova junco]

That has 9 zeroes

[worn valve]

what

[wintry ice]

multiply the number of 0s by the exponent

[nova junco]

1000^3 is 1.000.000.000

[lyric shore]

also if a joker is useless without synergy, yes i think it sucks

[dark cairn]

oh i cant read mb

[worn valve]

do you mean commas

[dark cairn]

blueprint and brainstorm:

[cosmic sun]

do you think endless gameplay would give me severe dementia if I were old when compared to gold stake

[dark cairn]

hanging chad:

[lavish nacelle]

Yeah

[wintry ice]

you need like 80 of them counting blueprints for it to be feasable

[nova junco]

Not important man where I live we use dots

[worn valve]

imagine a negative blueprint and brainstorm

[wintry ice]

blueprint and brainstorm work with most things

[lyric shore]

chad is different cuz it synergizes with everything

[worn valve]

do you live in wrong land

[lyric shore]

bp too

[wintry ice]

stuff like bloodstone only works with oops

[nova junco]

Some people would say I do

[north spindle]

i dont quite agree with this
the synergy also has to be something that doesn't come up naturally

[dark cairn]

yeah it depends

thats why saying a joker is bad if it requires synergy full stop is stupid

[nova junco]

Anyways you should understand the point 1000000000 is not 10^300

[north spindle]

like i think photo is decent basically because chad exists

[ripe gull]

can someone like

[frank grove]

if you arent always expecting to get a trib are you all always building into queens and kings then?

[lunar zealot]

Ello ello

[worn valve]

chad doesnt syndrome with chickot 😂

[ripe gull]

yes it does

[wintry ice]

syndrome

[ripe gull]

it allows it to freely spam photochad

[nova junco]

I am lmao

[lunar zealot]

Photo is almost unusable without chad

[ripe gull]

hi kami also almost?

[cosmic sun]

I build into 9s like a big boy

[lunar zealot]

everything synergizes with chicot

[dark cairn]

no its like 1000^103 lol

[ripe gull]

i cant think of a spot where it isnt

[worn valve]

ok it doesnt synergize with smeared joker

how about that pal

[lunar zealot]

Temperance value

[lavish nacelle]

What you imply it's kinda wrong, most jokera won't get you throughout the entire antes by itself, that's why the game gives you more than 1 joker slot

[wintry ice]

smeared sucks anyways

[ripe gull]

allows it to freely AJ spam

[worn valve]

who is aj

[ripe gull]

ancient joker

[dark cairn]

chicot synergizes with any build that gets screwed over hard by boss blinds

[nova junco]

Hell yeah let's throw out the window THE ENTIRE CONCEPT OF ROGUELIKES

[lunar zealot]

Photo is bad trib which is good idol which is bad aj which is good bloodstone which is bad photo

[wintry ice]

bro doesn't know jokers and wants to seem like he knows what jokerd are good

[ripe gull]

which is like 90% of the builds in the game

[worn valve]

perkeo doesnt synergize with boss blinds

[nova junco]

Perfect

[ripe gull]

because being forcing to scale high hurts