🕹・game-discussion

[jovial mica]

on round fucking four

[limpid hearth]

is it better to take the mime than the yorick if it’s 17x

[shadow spruce]

well for the first 4 rounds it costs as much as any other brainstorm so

[visual turtle]

Time to kill of every face card and make them aces

[glad bronze]

did I just... win?

[jovial mica]

HOLY FIRST SHOP

[candid niche]

woe, red seal 2s be upon ye

[stray tusk]

blank voucher

is useless?

[wintry ice]

insane speculative wee value

[wintry ice]

mostly yeah

[stray tusk]

"mostly"? :O

[wintry ice]

you unlock a strong voucher if you buy it

[acoustic kettle]

Hm

[wintry ice]

but you're usually not getting it unless you do endless

[glad bronze]

I already have hologram...
With brainstorm that's (x+0.5)^2 mult per shop

[candid niche]

yes, but say goodbye to deckfixing

[wintry ice]

pairs are the meta anyways so it doesn't matter that much

[glad bronze]

who needs deckfixing when you have x16 mult ante 3

[torn bobcat]

Funny run

[north spindle]

yeah cert + bs + bp basically just wins

[candid niche]

loser The Hook vs chad Castle build

[candid niche]

imagine playing meta

[wintry ice]

all of the seals are helpful for pairs anyways

[north spindle]

also you almost certainly get blue seals so you have 34325435 planet levels

[visual turtle]

32 bit integer planet levels

[severe slate]

I'm really bad at Balatro, I'm stuck in the big blind, bet 4/8

[acoustic kettle]

[median dock]

Ancient joker is a free win 90% of the time

[stray tusk]

what's spectral card?

[candid niche]

it turns you into a ghost

[acoustic kettle]

Like tarot cards

With different and arguably stronger effects

[candid niche]

more situational effects

like... when is Hex useful outside of early antes

[stray tusk]

I WAS SO HAPPY WHEN I SAW THIS

a natural royal straight

..........except one is an imposter

made me hit my table lmao

[acoustic kettle]

There's a high contrast setting

[visual turtle]

and this is why
people use high contrast

[acoustic kettle]

Makes clubs blue

[candid niche]

whats wrong with you, why are you blue

[visual turtle]

Why is clubs discolored green

when not high contrast

[frank grove]

i wish the playing card set for bal was high contrast

[acoustic kettle]

Bal the latro

[vocal rose]

high contrast moment

[safe flower]

Look who made the stupidest possible play by ankhing an invis joker

[barren wigeon]

amazing play

[candid niche]

amazing

[barren wigeon]

1.5 x 1.5 x 1.5 5 times

[left juniper]

Run ended before I could find the 5th 🙁

[patent bridge]

you lose that

[candid niche]

and the goad shows up at the right time for a hearts pivot

[safe flower]

I know

[patent bridge]

hmmmm

how is that a pivot?

[candid niche]

i have most of my scoring enhancements on spades

and support enhacnements (steel and gold) on hearts

[desert niche]

this seed is fucked up bruh

it has chips AND x mult

[distant vault]

I love wee

[desert niche]

if only i wasnt playing on plasma

[candid niche]

why is flush scoring so bad???

scaling

[desert niche]

because its easy?

[candid niche]

yeah but so is like, pair, and its apparantly the meta

[desert niche]

pairs are a bit easier to play

also theres more jokers that synergize with pairs than there are for flushes

[tiny jetty]

and usually less affected by boss blinds

[desert niche]

but you should never aim for a specific build

go with the flow

every hand is viable

[tiny jetty]

maybe eye and 0x and psychic but thats about it

if i dont forget anything

[distant vault]

Wee over square

[candid niche]

yeah, but why would you make a deck built around flush and then make flush so bad

[desert niche]

...game balance?

[distant vault]

Hands are not balanced well lmao

There's no incentive to play anything other than pairs

[desert niche]

.....

[distant vault]

In gold stake

[desert niche]

???

jokers??

you cant force a pair run

[distant vault]

X to doubt

[desert niche]

ouija??

[distant vault]

Pair is the default hand on gold

[desert niche]

its not that pairs arent powerful its just that with pairs you have low scoring and fewer scoring cards and less money

those are definetely incentives to not play pair

[jade arch]

Well well well, what do you think of that?

[hard silo]

the current 94 gs streak on blue deck and the c++ profile with no losses were pair builds a huge majority of the way through

[distant vault]

Low scoring and low money is not a problem with pairs

So idk where you got this from.

[desert niche]

low scoring with pairs means more hands to paly means less money?

[distant vault]

Im not saying you can't win with non pair builds

[hard silo]

consistency is the key to winning and success

[desert niche]

you need something to get those pairs up in the first place

[distant vault]

But there is no low scoring with pairs if you have a good build

[hard silo]

digging through deck for value

[desert niche]

like, quite a few mercury

[hard silo]

a majority of jokers and scalers can do that

[desert niche]

what if have no good cards?

[hard silo]

that’s not gonna happen in a majority of runs

when was the last time someone has won gold stake with absolutely zero deck modifications

[candid niche]

is it better to copy stuntman or Jim

[distant vault]

Every hand has an investment. Yes you need proper work to get a pair build going but that applies to every hand. So your logic doesnt work

[spice glen]

I am sorry for ever doubting you superposition

[ripe gull]

i hear 🍐 slander

i arrive

[candid niche]

(i have 4 hand size because i was unlocking Pallete)

[distant vault]

Are pairs not the default gold stake hand

[desert niche]

???
you get

[hard silo]

yes i will spend a dollar for one mult and seeing five more cards, its just how the game perceives value upon blind scaling

[ripe gull]

depends on level

prob half tho

[desert niche]

+15 +1 with pairs and +30 +4 with four of a kind
pair is simply less scoring

[hard silo]

it’s just how the game works while being proven by the best players in game

[distant vault]

Yes

[ripe gull]

more jokers work with pairs

and you can scale more

[distant vault]

The base level of pairs is lower

[ripe gull]

and you can play easier

so you die to less bosses

[distant vault]

But that's not what im talking about

You can make pairs strong

Is what im saying.

[ripe gull]

nah pairs suck im gonna ignore the guy with 55 gs winstreak advice :P

not me i suck but someone ik

[desert niche]

and im saying that you need an investment into pairs to make it worth it while you need less investment on other hands to make them worth it

[hard silo]

you can’t defy the statistics of existing results from players playing pairs and winning with them without needing to search hard for a build like so because a lot more jokers work with pairs, in comparison to alternative poker hands.

[distant vault]

Just because the base hand level is less scoring doesnt mean you can't surpass it.

[ripe gull]

you need much more investment in other hands in gold stake

you need tarots you need scaling you need specific jokers

[distant vault]

You're saying 4oak takes less investment than pairs?

[hard silo]

what poker hand requires less resource investment than pairs

[distant vault]

4oak requires deckfixing

[hard silo]

you’ve still not proven your side of the argument at all

[ripe gull]

pairs need like jokers but like 90 jokers work with pairs needs 0 tarots and easy scaling with blue seal or telescope

[desert niche]

im not saying that pairs are bad im saying theres reasons to not use pairs

[distant vault]

In addition to jokers 4oak also needs deckfixing

Pairs do not

[ripe gull]

there are reasons but most runs will be pairs by far

[hard silo]

statistically for winning, pairs have the highest success rate

[ripe gull]

4oak is a strong hand prob top 4 but it doesnt compare to pairs in a game

[hard silo]

every run*

feel free to prove otherwise with actual rhetoric

[desert niche]

wtf no

youre right

[distant vault]

But those reasons are very few and you won't find them very often. Thats my point. Pairs should be your default gold stake hand.

[ripe gull]

though you shouldnt get pair locked and still remember other hand types exist

[candid niche]

3 hand size :\

i think i lose

[desert niche]

if i cant find for pairs, i cant use pairs.

[ripe gull]

3oak is strong af and 4oak/straights are still the goat high score hand types

[hard silo]

this applies for every poker hand mfw

[distant vault]

Not at all but 90% of my runs are pairs

[ripe gull]

yes it can work but you are forcing it

but yea its gonna be like 90%

[desert niche]

and i cant invest into pairs because then i wont survive

[ripe gull]

just cuz they are so much meta

but some people try to truely force pairs

[hard silo]

most scalers are immune to perishables, pairs are good for scaling jokers in that you naturally digging through more of your deck and more hands are used to scale a majority of non perishable natural scalers

[ripe gull]

but if you get like trio before a4 u prob run 3oak

[ripe gull]

all non retroactive scalers are

[distant vault]

I've had a few straight, flush, and high cards

[candid niche]

do i take a second ecto for 1 hand size to be funny?

[distant vault]

Runs

[hard silo]

there’s like a couple of exceptions but they’re special for being… them

[distant vault]

What do you mean by this

[ripe gull]

also pairs have the benifit of easy holding cards for gold or blue seals

[desert niche]

if i have no jokers that support pairs

i cant play pairs

[ripe gull]

and easy scoring to go out for the most part so you can easily scale your jokers to max every round

[desert niche]

i have no money

i have no scoring

[ripe gull]

upwards of like 90 jokers work with pairs

[distant vault]

Doesn't this apply to every hand

[desert niche]

i cannot waste my money on pairs

[ripe gull]

if you are forcing pairs ante 1 or 2 then thats on you

[distant vault]

You need jokers for every hand

Not just pairs

[hard silo]

same applies for all poker hands

[distant vault]

Yup

[hard silo]

this isn’t a pair exclusive issue

tf

[desert niche]

yeah

[ripe gull]

playing high card to try and get 4oak and straighst wastes money

[hard silo]

wtf are you trying to prove

it makes no sense

[desert niche]

so i need to build around my jokers and my jokers wont support pairs

then i cant build pairs

[acoustic kettle]

Pairs works with most jokers

[ripe gull]

wastes more money cuz those normally arent played with scaling

[ripe gull]

you get scaling jokers

[distant vault]

You usually don't want to play pairs ante 1 and 2

[ripe gull]

there are so many scaling jokers you are very very likely to get a scaling joker before a3 or 4

and that carries with pairs

[distant vault]

But you lean into it

[ripe gull]

unless you get money maker

[hard silo]

proceeds to wastes more money to build a harder poker hand later on in the run and die from bosses or whiffing

[ripe gull]

which case pairs tend to be great for a1 a2 money making

[acoustic kettle]

Even jokers like runner or spare trousers are pair jokers

[distant vault]

10.3k pairs now

[ripe gull]

i love my scaling jokers that dont work how thunk intended

[glad bronze]

Scariest win of my LIFE

[ripe gull]

seems like a scuffed run lol

banner for chips instead of anything

[lavish nacelle]

What should i do here

[ripe gull]

im assuming u got it for sticker

[ripe gull]

smiley for now ig

[stray tusk]

beat a violet vessel :D

[glad bronze]

Kinda sorta

I was hoping to get a burglar

[hard silo]

like don’t pretend that 4oak and straights are a cheaper alternative option for winning that’s not how the game works on a fundamental level.

[lavish nacelle]

But I change it for what

[glad bronze]

but that was sorta filler

[ripe gull]

black deck

[distant vault]

Congrats

[hard silo]

congrats

[ripe gull]

you have 6 slots

[lavish nacelle]

Oh, I didn't

See that

Jajaja

My bad

[stray tusk]

have to admit though

my run this time was cracked

[hard silo]

the vv bounty agenda moves forward

[stray tusk]

was getting like x2000 mult

[acoustic kettle]

The latro is strong within

[stray tusk]

xD

[ripe gull]

weak pair amount ngl

i got close on my gamble max only

not including my other 3 profiles

[glad bronze]

I officially have 8 decks gold stickered now

[lavish nacelle]

Haven't you got e

[distant vault]

Is gamblemax only wheel and judgement

[ripe gull]

this was a file i could only use wheel and judgement tarots

yea

[hard silo]

hex if you’re psychotic

[lavish nacelle]

Jees

[ripe gull]

i did hex a lot lmao

[lavish nacelle]

Why would you torture yourself like that

[ripe gull]

but immo carried a LOT

[distant vault]

Oops

[ripe gull]

was pretty fun

[distant vault]

Meant this

[ripe gull]

i got C++ (outside of not unlocking or doing 1 joker i hate you bloodstone)

[lavish nacelle]

Wow

[distant vault]

Poly skip on ghost if youre me

[candid niche]

at what point is it better to copy const?

[lavish nacelle]

Bloodstone is an opp

[ripe gull]

whats base mult?

[distant vault]

Nice streak. What's the last sticker

[hard silo]

i mean with the intent that you destroy your other jokers

[desert niche]

as soon as it gives you more scoring

[ripe gull]

dont ask what the other unlock is

i just forgot to pick up a voucher but i unlocked it

[candid niche]

i'm trying to pivot to high card since i have 3 hand size, but telescope is kind of ruining my planet scaling

[glad bronze]

I wonder where all the time I could've spent getting c+++ went

cough

[lavish nacelle]

Yeah, I like bloodstone but most of the time the thing works like 2 times out of 10

[distant vault]

New rule. As soon as you see a hex you must take it.

[ripe gull]

I miss 1/2 2x bloodstone

[distant vault]

Damn

[ripe gull]

Trench was doing wheel only if she couldn't take it reset

[glad bronze]

if it's not 100%, it's 50%.

[stray tusk]

how do you have more than 5 jokers?

[distant vault]

Guys which buffoon pack right or left

[glad bronze]

neither

[candid niche]

negative jokers. they don't take up joker slots

[lavish nacelle]

Yeah, but the thing works like is 10%

[ancient gyro]

twins 🗣️

[glad bronze]

closer to 30% but sure

[distant vault]

Space build

[lavish nacelle]

[lavish nacelle]

You a space guy

[hard silo]

ante 2 round 2

[acoustic kettle]

Better than ante 2 round 1

[lavish nacelle]

Mine looks like this

[acoustic kettle]

It should be possible to skip boss blinds

[lavish nacelle]

Huh

[ripe gull]

i have the most

[lavish nacelle]

How would that work

[ripe gull]

john boring stats page for my gamblemax

only thing of interest is odd todd

[acoustic kettle]

Odd todd is boring too

[candid niche]

well, i won with 3 hand size

[acoustic kettle]

Well i guess not as basic as the other ones

[lavish nacelle]

Acrobats are cool

I like last hand builds

Kinda risky tho

[ripe gull]

odd todd is strong asf in gamblemax

cant use heiro cant dupe blue seals

i aint got chips

[lavish nacelle]

Odd Todd is a cool guy

[candid niche]

they should add a third weird brother

i've seen a mod with like, Prime Pete or something

[stray tusk]

what happens if you ran out of card on the deck?

[acoustic kettle]

You lose

[desert niche]

you die.

[stray tusk]

:(

[candid niche]

you get sent to the shadow realm

[acoustic kettle]

Fibonacci already kinda does that

Even though it is a fibonacci sequence

[candid niche]

ehh fib is different

[acoustic kettle]

It hits primes

1 2 3 5

[candid niche]

fib is Ace, 2, 3, 5, 8

[acoustic kettle]

Well yeah

Only difference is the 7

[candid niche]

Prime Pete would hit 2, 3, 5, 7, and Ace (as ace counts as 11)

...so basically the same

[desert niche]

ace

[candid niche]

...but pete could give xmult

[acoustic kettle]

Ace is 1

[candid niche]

and 11

[desert niche]

ace is 11

[acoustic kettle]

Fib counts ace as 1

[glad bronze]

ace is a 1 that scores as 11

[eternal pumice]

[candid niche]

ace is 1 for the purposes of fib, but Pete cares about aces as 11s

[acoustic kettle]

You can straight eith ace to 5

[eternal pumice]

Burnana

[desert niche]

BUANRNANRA??!!?

[acoustic kettle]

Well 1 is prime as well ain't it

[candid niche]

i mean, aces can be counted high (A-10 straight) or low (A-5 straight)

[desert niche]

ooo buhnahnah..

[eternal pumice]

BURANANA!!!!

[candid niche]

no, because prime numbers need exactly 2 factors

1 cant factor with itself

[acoustic kettle]

1 and 1

[candid niche]

doesnt work

that's not how prime works

[desert niche]

...windette?

[glad bronze]

guys there should be factorial which makes 1s, 2s, 6s, and 24s give x1.5 mult

[candid niche]

and, well, we could have a Composite Carl joker, but that would just be Even Steven+

[acoustic kettle]

Hm yes 24 rank

[pine swift]

Dayumn nat negative brainstorm

[glad bronze]

don't make me add 120 to that list

[candid niche]

Carl would hit 4, 6, 8, 9, and 10s

[eternal pumice]

What

[desert niche]

the youtuber guy that goes crazy over buhnarnah

[candid niche]

....probably just gives a shitty on score effect since its just steven+

[acoustic kettle]

Hm yes i love my 120

[eternal pumice]

Uh never heard of the guy lol

[desert niche]

holdon

dms

[glad bronze]

I mean if you get a hiker to make something give 120 chips

you can call that a dirty 120

[acoustic kettle]

Doesn't work

[glad bronze]

I HATE YOU

[acoustic kettle]

It is base chips + extra chips

Unless it ccounted the total

[candid niche]

you would need to Hike a face card or ten 22 times.

[glad bronze]

hence "dirty" 120

[glad bronze]

dude

I've hiked cards

WAY

past 120

[candid niche]

i mean, you could use Bonus and/or Foil to make it easier

[acoustic kettle]

Won't work

It is not the card's chips

It is the enhancement's

[candid niche]

with Bonus + Foil 10s, that's only 6 hikes

[glad bronze]

get blueprint, get brainstorm, get hanging chad

[candid niche]

well yeah but you could just make it so that it counts all chips together

[tranquil steppe]

Chad is your friend

[candid niche]

hiking chad

bros travelling on foot

[glad bronze]

hiking chad gotta be one of my favorite combos ever

[acoustic kettle]

Wee chad

[candid niche]

....odd chad?

[glad bronze]

just get hack atp bro

[dreamy creek]

balala

[acoustic kettle]

Hack todd

[glad bronze]

balala

hot todd

[candid niche]

i really hate it when people think Hack is a hacker

youre giving him too much credit

hes just a shitty comedian

[acoustic kettle]

Hack them

[candid niche]

i will tell bad jokes at them until they stop

[acoustic kettle]

No like

Hack them

[candid niche]

i will cut them with rough or heavy blows until they stop

...or turn them into a horse for ordinary riding

....or turn them into taxicabs

....or into a board on which a hawk's meat is laid

one of those definitions must be the one you meant

[minor portal]

These are a lot of definitions

Even got a hawk too, huh?

[candid niche]

thy end is now

[unborn cliff]

you know

that is a lot of levels

what should i do

[minor portal]

arcana skip tag will have soul

[unborn cliff]

i wanna win though

ehhh ill do it

[minor portal]

but that's boring

[acoustic kettle]

This one

[unborn cliff]

losing is more boring

level 15 pair now

thats pretty good

[candid niche]

sure its not transforming them into a horse?

[tranquil steppe]

Do it. That’s basically a free win

[unborn cliff]

this is true

[acoustic kettle]

Sounds good too

[minor portal]

Lady Luck must despise you

[unborn cliff]

also i found ramen

i win

top 10 times when obelisk didnt actually help the run

[acoustic kettle]

Might lose

You can't scale the groker

[unborn cliff]

obelisk is actually bad here

for once

[acoustic kettle]

Grimbo

Eh hc

Exists

[unborn cliff]

true

but i have no levels

you cannot ragebait me

[acoustic kettle]

Why the baron

[unborn cliff]

sticker

why do you think im on anaglyph

[acoustic kettle]

True

[unborn cliff]

i dont kinda need another xmult though

well thats not good

i wish i had real jokers

like an obelisk

[candid niche]

....why is your Trousers behind Ramen

[unborn cliff]

because im playing pairs

[acoustic kettle]

What in the +mult

[unborn cliff]

so trousers does not matter

[unborn cliff]

xmult does not exist in my game

[candid niche]

yeah but whatever +mult it has could be multiplied by ramen first

[unborn cliff]

+0

[acoustic kettle]

Why are you hogging every +mult in the game

Leave some for the rest of us

[unborn cliff]

sorry

can i have a hologram please

[candid niche]

you'll take a cavendish and like it

[unborn cliff]

gros michel didnt even show up

[acoustic kettle]

Gross michele

[unborn cliff]

gross michael

[naive cove]

It’s a very telling that Toby Fox made black deck the most difficult one in the game. I believe he was trying to draw parallels to the real world living in the United States

[candid niche]

what if instead of gros michel it was gros michelle and instead of giving +15 mult it gave +15 estrogen

[acoustic kettle]

Hm toby fox the balatrer

[unborn cliff]

1 in 6 chance to trans the player

[candid niche]

insert gif of guy slapping button

[acoustic kettle]

Balatro balatrez

[glad bronze]

Meanwhile, the Green Deck has the highest difference between skill ceiling and skill floor, also drawing parallels to the real world

[barren wigeon]

long time (intro)

[grave hamlet]

Possibly the easiest plasma run ever?

Started with gold mask so all face cards became gold in the first few rounds

[wintry ice]

incantation or cryptid

[grave hamlet]

Used the +250 chips -2 hand size joker to carry me while I set up all faces with the gold mask

[stray tusk]

FIRST EVER :D

unseeded btw

wooooo

[untold walrus]

Yo guys what’s a Consumble spot?

It’s a voucher

What does it mean?

[acoustic kettle]

The one on the right

Of the jokers

Tarot planet and spectral spot

Those are consumables

[untold walrus]

Ok thank you my 🥷 you’re the best.

[viscid plaza]

Casual run on Christmas

[wintry ice]

lol

[stray tusk]

wait

why is that a negative??

sounds like a perk to me O.o

+1 Joker slot is good, no?

[languid kite]

Guys look what I got for Christmas

[wintry ice]

the

[wintry ice]

it takes negative space

[untold walrus]

Yo guys what does -1 ante and -hand slot do for me? If im already on ante 8? Does it actually do anytbig still or no?

[lost vault]

yes?

-1 ante still works on any ante

why wouldnt it

[wintry ice]

you'd still need 1 more ante to win

[distant vault]

[solemn saffron]

What to replace for the brainstorm?

[wintry ice]

smiley or scary

probably smiley

[languid heron]

Smiley

[fallow matrix]

Obligatory c++ post
Genuinely so happy it’s finally over

[distant vault]

Congrats

[lunar zealot]

ello ello

[scenic siren]

Mine still got a while (I got the game on the 23rd)

(As in 2 days ago)

Holy my card stats 100% give away that I play two pair builds lol

I was a Shiv Build guy in StS I'm not surprised by this tbh

[atomic trout]

Not enough High card

[scenic siren]

I haven't played High Card often

[atomic trout]

It's never enough

[scenic siren]

well

I've just instantly adapted to Two Pair

and it worked up to this point so

[atomic trout]

PC version

[scenic siren]

what are you jokers even like for high card

[atomic trout]

I oddly play the same way on both PC and mobile

[atomic trout]

I forgot what I did to make High Card work

[scenic siren]

is it not your most common jokers?

[atomic trout]

PC version.. that explains a lot

[scenic siren]

ok Hanging Chad makes sense

[atomic trout]

Phone version

I really do play the same way lol

[atomic trout]

Burnt Joker works

[scenic siren]

wait whats the 3rd most used i cant find it, might not have it tbh

[atomic trout]

You have to sell 50 cards

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[hybrid tendon]

balatrodle in 7, I threw there I know

[atomic trout]

Stuntman works with high card builds

[scenic siren]

Yeah, I've unlocked the joker but never bought so idk what it does

[lunar zealot]

like pair but with less jokers

pair is the better hand than high card for a few reasons

at least generally for gold stake

[atomic trout]

The what now?

[scenic siren]

I feel like Sock and Buskin would do good for High card

[atomic trout]

High Card sucks on Purple Stakes and higher

[lunar zealot]

it's fine

[scenic siren]

in the image

[lunar zealot]

sock is for 5 card hands though

so you maximize the amount of triggers you can re

[scenic siren]

ik, but like it couldnt hurt

[atomic trout]

Which image?

[scenic siren]

this one

[lunar zealot]

christ

[shell dagger]

Chad is twice as strong and works on all cards though

And its common

[atomic trout]

Green Joker? Haha, it's common

so is Hanging Chad

[scenic siren]

I unlocked it just never bought it lol

[lunar zealot]

high card is. fine.

[atomic trout]

And Supernova..

[lunar zealot]

it's a hand

pair is usually better?

[atomic trout]

Usually 😛

[lunar zealot]

high card is definitely playable

[atomic trout]

It scales really slow but it's the easiest to play

[signal frigate]

It's perfect for low card hands

[atomic trout]

What the heck?

[shell dagger]

Most runs where pair is the easiest choice, high card is probably the second best hand

[signal frigate]

It works best with Pairs since it scales slightly better

[lunar zealot]

why the fuck is my rebate on 2100 rounds

what the fuck

[atomic trout]

High Card on Purple and above is bad idea

[serene forge]

balatrodle in 2

[lunar zealot]

fork??

[shell dagger]

Still better than half the hands in the game

[signal frigate]

It can work, steels and mime exists

[serene forge]

hi

[atomic trout]

I hardly use Mime haha

[signal frigate]

If you level up almost any planet enough, a smidge of xmult is all it needs

[serene forge]

literally 1984

[atomic trout]

Woah! Look at the SCALING!

[lunar zealot]

yeah this is about what i'd expect

[signal frigate]

It's an amazing utility joker

[atomic trout]

Damn, I could never do good Straight runs

[scenic siren]

I just like me my two pair with (preferrably) a Mad Joker, Supernova, Spare Trousers, Blueprint, and Seeing Double in that order. Just only take Clubs in standards and play Nebula Deck to get lvl 20 Two Pair with Uranus lol

[lunar zealot]

why the fuck is priestess in my top 10

[signal frigate]

It doesn't have to be a scoring joker

[shell dagger]

It’s so low risk

I was confused why it is usually high up in usage lists

[lunar zealot]

above hanged man ??????

[scenic siren]

Priestess is my second T-T

[shell dagger]

But it costs $1 at worst

[lunar zealot]

looks about right to me

wheel being top 10 is.

a choice

[shell dagger]

Above hang man is crazy though

[signal frigate]

2 dollars if you used it

[tame sluice]

Over magician

💔

[signal frigate]

I believe maybe it's because of Constellation?

[lunar zealot]

i must not get it offered enough

[shell dagger]

A good planet is worth more than $2

[atomic trout]

Death death death!

[lunar zealot]

death over temperance is fucking crazy

[atomic trout]

I do genocide runs

[tame sluice]

Over hermit💔

[signal frigate]

Funnily enough, my hermit is somehow the highest

[atomic trout]

More like: Her not

[signal frigate]

Followed by magician

[scenic siren]

Death is easily my first, but it works for pairs to just get more matches in a round

[signal frigate]

And then temperance

[serene forge]

me when i only play white stake

[atomic trout]

I see you like money

[lunar zealot]

i LOVE money

[atomic trout]

That death though, so looow

[scenic siren]

Also my Tarot is so thrown off because I haven't played long enough for too many to have been used, so Moon is only 4th due to my Seeing Double attempts

[serene forge]

its reasonable

[atomic trout]

Phone version

Death death death!

[scenic siren]

Why does everyone have Wheel in top 10...

[atomic trout]

Because, why not?

[scenic siren]

I can't say I don't but like

[atomic trout]

I wish there was a Boss defeat Stat

[scenic siren]

oh thatd be nice to see my many failed attempts to the stupid Arm

hes so mean when you have a hand specific build

[serene forge]

its good

[atomic trout]

I would make a suggestion on the actual Suggestion box 😄

[signal frigate]

It's easy enough to level them back up, especially with blue seals

Blue seals are amazing

[scenic siren]

Sure, but if you get him to early he just wrecks your whole build up so far, assuming you don't die to him as he slowly perishes your build

[signal frigate]

That's actually the best time to get a boss like that

Because you're free to level up your hands afterwards

[atomic trout]

I lost to the Fish twice

[signal frigate]

If you're already losing early then it's probably not the Arm's fault

[atomic trout]

The Arm can be a pain

[signal frigate]

I'd worry more about the hook cuz I'm a fan of in hand scoring

[signal frigate]

I put my betting money on space man

[scenic siren]

I mean like Ante 3-4

[lunar zealot]

chat i think i win

[atomic trout]

Eww.

[atomic trout]

The Monolith? Oh god

[signal frigate]

Yeah, believe it or not, thats the best time to get him

[atomic trout]

I remember losing to the Needle more times than not

[signal frigate]

I fucked up my third monolith run, I am genuine ass at using this thing

[lunar zealot]

what

this is gold stake

[scenic siren]

Well... maybe I suck lol

[signal frigate]

Yeah, I was doing goldstake

[lunar zealot]

ok NOW i win

[scenic siren]

I've also only had the game for 3 days so... ye

[signal frigate]

Wait, monolith?

Obelisk

[atomic trout]

It's times like these we need to revaluate my job description of not sucking on this game haha

[signal frigate]

I had brainfart

[signal frigate]

I'm blaming you

[lunar zealot]

honestly

fuck it i'm pivoting at 12

[signal frigate]

That could get dangerous

[atomic trout]

Has this happened to anyone before?

[signal frigate]

Two pair??

[lunar zealot]

i'm ante 5 and have 3 xmult jokers

[scenic siren]

Two pair better tsk tsk

[signal frigate]

Me when 1,349 at ante 2 boss

Alot of times actually

[lunar zealot]

NO SHOT I GET TWO FUCKING WHEEL HITS IN ONE RUN

[atomic trout]

It's kinda embarassing when I get bad draws lol

[signal frigate]

Even had runs where I just died at ante 1 boss with 1 point remaining

[signal frigate]

I think you win

[atomic trout]

WAIT! my favorite way I lost

Hehehe

[scenic siren]

108 on round 2?!

with a joker???

[signal frigate]

How many times do you get the feckin Heiro?

[serene forge]

lore accurate baron

[atomic trout]

once.

[signal frigate]

I've seen you do that more times than I could remember though

[scenic siren]

I think only time I've lost on round 2 is due to having 0 jokers from first shop

[atomic trout]

Many times

lol

[signal frigate]

I never lost to round 2

[atomic trout]

I see Hiro on Ante 1, I want to lose 😄

[signal frigate]

Even without jokers

One flush and a good two pair is enough

Or just be flushpilled for a couple of rounds

[atomic trout]

True

[scenic siren]

But when I'm going for two pair with my Nebula deck it doesn't work like that lol

[atomic trout]

Nebula Deck tends to be kinda strict

[signal frigate]

That's what you think, placebo is a funny thing

Nebula is a good deck though

Free telescope

[atomic trout]

Nebula you have to play a certain hand and hope you have enough money to buy planet cards. That -1 Consumable is awful

[signal frigate]

Eh, it's not as bad

[atomic trout]

High Priestest? More like one priestess

[scenic siren]

I never really use both consumable slots so I just thought it'd work out for my two pair playstyle, and it often does

[signal frigate]

That means you're more encouraged to buy and use them in the shop instead

[atomic trout]

I tend to overspend on the first planet card just to get a bad hand going, Double Pair or Flushes

I really struggle with Nebula Deck

[lunar zealot]

DUDE I WIN SO FAST I CANT EVEN SCALE MY FUCKING OBELISK

[atomic trout]

Go for Green Deck

[scenic siren]

Nebula is just the level up deck. Choose a hand to play and instead of shaping around jokers shape the jokers around you.

[lunar zealot]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[signal frigate]

Already beaten that three times

[atomic trout]

I wish it were easy, haha

[signal frigate]

On goldstake

[lunar zealot]

i'm skipping this fucking brainstorm

[signal frigate]

I hated it

[atomic trout]

I can't even beat that on Gold Stakes (Green Deck)

[lunar zealot]

i dont even care

[scenic siren]

play a two pair build like me 😄

[signal frigate]

I don't like Green Deck

[atomic trout]

I love it and hate it

[scenic siren]

Don't vomit at my two pair

[signal frigate]

What deck is this again?

[atomic trout]

Being able to overspend and not worry about the Interest is nice. But then having no hands and Discards, you're playing the Omellete challenge..

[atomic trout]

Not Black Deck 😄

[signal frigate]

That is my current goldstake

[scenic siren]

Black Deck seems horribly difficult to me

[signal frigate]

And I am already struggling in blue stake

[signal frigate]

It's insanely punishing in High stakes runs

[atomic trout]

It's the slow, difficult start that gets so many people to lose

[signal frigate]

The difficulty spike skyrockets in blue stake, that -1 discard completely fucks you over

[atomic trout]

An extra Joker is nice but having one less hand, less interest, less jokers to see. And hello Game Over screen 😄

[atomic trout]

That's insane. -1 Discard feels like the Blast Off

At least the Blast Off Challenge you get Rocket and Planet Joker

[signal frigate]

3 hands, 2 discards

Not a great feeling

[atomic trout]

But that extra Joker slot

[lunar zealot]

QLBJKDFBGJLKDASBJKFLJBKSDJBLKGBCFLJDGDSFH

THREE WHEEL HITS

[signal frigate]

And it's white fucking stake because challenge decks are always white stake.

[lunar zealot]

THREE FUCKING WHEEL HITS

[atomic trout]

😟

[scenic siren]

Am I the only person who uses Nebula mostly?

[signal frigate]

Black Deck Gold Stake is absolute pain

[atomic trout]

Yet it's so hard 🥹

[scenic siren]

Speaking of, is there a deck use stat?

[lunar zealot]

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SEED

[atomic trout]

The what now?

[atomic trout]

The best seed.

[scenic siren]

how much you used each deck

[signal frigate]

Nah, you can mostly tell from consumable used

[scenic siren]

true

[signal frigate]

I can judge that you've played alot of Checkered if you've been leveling your Jupiters

Or you're simply flushpilled

[atomic trout]

Flushes are the best and then they fall behind so slowly. I forgot how difficult it gets on Purple Stakes

[signal frigate]

The scaling isn't the best

[scenic siren]

what hand is Nebula even meant for... It's kinda just any hand but only one I guess

[signal frigate]

And it's a five card hand

[lunar zealot]

hahahahahahaha

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHA

[signal frigate]

Good for planets

[atomic trout]

Hell nah it isn't, that's why Checkered Deck can fall off so fast 🤣

[lunar zealot]

HAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

[signal frigate]

It's not the worst either

[atomic trout]

What is going on here? 🧺

[signal frigate]

Flush can win runs

[atomic trout]

Not like High Card. Oh wait. I use that more often that not..

[signal frigate]

Again, it actually has some pretty good jokers

[atomic trout]

Or it can flush a game down?

[signal frigate]

My favorite being ancient

Ancient Joker is my goat

[lunar zealot]

what a fucking run

let's see how much one high card is

[scenic siren]

Has anyone played a Flush Five build?

[atomic trout]

Beast!

[lunar zealot]

Oh boy i won

[signal frigate]

That's my favorite way to do endless

[lunar zealot]

no fucking surprises there

[atomic trout]

Share us the Seed

[signal frigate]

I need to get gud at Obelisk

[lunar zealot]

31ZCVVTN

jesus my god

[atomic trout]

What Deck and Stakes?

Nevermind.

[lunar zealot]

i couldn't even scale my fucking obelisk because i won too fast

[signal frigate]

It should work in all stakes

[atomic trout]

I don't even have Blue Stakes on Yellow Deck.

[signal frigate]

Pretty sizable Red card though

My biggest Red card is 114

[lunar zealot]

i have no idea how i managed to feed red card hologram AND steel joker

my only econ joker was a single egg

[signal frigate]

I think certificate might've done something

[lunar zealot]

tarots yeah definitely

[atomic trout]

It happened again 😄

[signal frigate]

And Holo.

It feeds holo.

That definitely helped

[lunar zealot]

yeah

[atomic trout]

but with seeed used

[signal frigate]

I actually think you might've gotten bottlenecked if you grabbed that brainstorm from before

But with a sizable obelisk and red card, its hard to lose at that point

[lunar zealot]

tbf i hate brainstorm lol

[scenic siren]

Is brainstrom not just a slightly worse blueprint...

[lunar zealot]

exactly

[grave aurora]

I played this game for a total of 16 hours.25 million points is the best achievement.

[scenic siren]

sure id rather get blueprint but it isnt bad

[lunar zealot]

brainstorm is a good joker

one of the best

i just don't like it

[deft sandal]

holy shit, just got a polychrome hiker from a judgement generated by the superposition

[novel hound]

this is a glorious run

[scenic siren]

Not a bad start

[deft sandal]

Oh my god, it generated a wheel of fortune and I get polychrome on constellation

[scenic siren]

7k points on a good hand only round 8, I'll take it

[lost vault]

the gay stars

[void marlin]

Lowkey imagine if the night sky had all sorts of colors

Like if we were in a crazy nebula or something

Would go crazy

[bleak blaze]

Pain

[deft sandal]

that's crazy, first shop buffoon pack

both eternal rental

[deft sandal]

It would probably looks like the Northern Lights

Some sort of aurora

that would be beautiful

[icy fable]

Peak

[deft sandal]

dont mind the jokers above , but holy shit. A soul card

oh well

[scenic siren]

This is a hand I had yesterday that gave me like 250k a hand

[languid heron]

You cannot sell it cause þen youll never get a gold sticker on chicot again

[deft sandal]

that's the only legendary i still dont have gold stickers on it 😭

[marsh needle]

5 glass shatters in a row

[deft sandal]

this gotta be the worst loadout ever lmao

[marsh needle]

bro

No oops

1 / 1,024

And i skipped on glass joker

Ur joking

[deft sandal]

the only good joker here is rebate

[wintry ice]

the first soul in a run is guarranteed to have him

[deft sandal]

welp, guess I'm taking him for a ride

[wintry ice]

surely we won't deny the value of insurance in high stakes

surely a joker that nullifies the hardest part of the game is bad

[deft sandal]

well guess I'm not taking it for a ride, I'm dead because I can't find any scoring jokers

[wintry ice]

your screenshot has a perishable half joker

[deft sandal]

I just rerolled it looking to find better jokers 💀

and got nothing but useless tarots

[marsh needle]

Quite the build

[fervent wolf]

Rip or ggs?

[cursive lion]

skipping on two free blueprints/brainstorms is straight up criminal, even for SOME reason you don't need them, you can sell them

[marsh needle]

Kinds good to me

[fervent wolf]

Ggs

[marsh needle]

Nice ^_^

[hybrid tendon]

literally the only legendary you can pull

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[deft sandal]

I want to take the mail in rebate

I need gold sticker on mail in rebate :L

but if i dont take blueprint, i'm so dead next ante

[lavish gazelle]

Rebate is a common it'll show up again

You gotta live

[deft sandal]

wtf, I just got a negative to the moon from a judgement in the tarot pack lmao

[quartz ember]

you will get gs on rebate before alot of other jokers so dont worry about it

[heavy heron]

UNLUCKY

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[coarse silo]

The day I learned judgement could spawn negative jokers was a good day

[tepid lichen]

Y'all taking the bs here? I feel like it won't do that much for me

Holo is at x3

[grave aurora]

People are wondering whether they should use this leaf or not.

[grave aurora]

Maybe we should just use our brains, haha.

[languid heron]

Its objectively better þan red card

[tepid lichen]

well no, theres no foil so I score less points by taking it

[languid heron]

But holo is at x3 as you said

So just copy hologram and youre good

[tepid lichen]

but that means I have to put hologram to the left of the red card, effectivley nullifying the first 3x

im like 99% sure it scores less could prob get the calaculator out for it too

[tepid lichen]

???

[serene forge]

not how it works

brainstorm is bad with xmult jokers

most of them at least

this is either sell ramen or skip

im not sure how much those red cards are at

[tepid lichen]

+39

I feel like its a skip

[serene forge]

yea

[signal frigate]

I would just sell the ramen here

[terse dock]

Cheat and sell 8ball

[tepid lichen]

surely thats also less scoring tho?

[signal frigate]

Have you been discarding?

[terse dock]

Probably not

[tepid lichen]

no its at 1.9

[signal frigate]

I see the discards

How much is hologram at?

[tepid lichen]

3x

[signal frigate]

Then, you could get rid of one of your Red Card

Actually that doesn't make any difference

[tepid lichen]

yes exactly

[signal frigate]

Yeah, Ramen is objectively the worst one here

[tepid lichen]

it even scores less

[signal frigate]

You can copy holo

[tepid lichen]

that definetly scores less, as explained above

[signal frigate]

Ramen is 1.9

Holo is x3

Copying it with brainstorm is better than the ramen

Just put the brainstorm before the red cards

[terse dock]

Is your build winning

[tepid lichen]

and lose all of my plus mult, yeah

[tepid lichen]

yea

[terse dock]

Go next

[signal frigate]

That is the second best option too yes

If you didn't have to gold chip that 8ball, you could've taken it

[merry wren]

if youre easily winning then take brainstorm no questions asked

[tepid lichen]

no its not lol lemme pull up the calc

[signal frigate]

I meant going next.

[merry wren]

50 less chips wont do anything compared to the extra x2 or whatever you have on your holo

[signal frigate]

You're already winning

[tepid lichen]

yes, I'm saying its the first best option

my current build would not be improved

by a brainstorm

[terse dock]

Just go next

Be safe

[merry wren]

no

[tepid lichen]

Yea I did already

[merry wren]

get rid of 8ball if youre just scraping by

[terse dock]

Eternal

[signal frigate]

It's eternal.

[merry wren]

ah mb i didnt see

[signal frigate]

That's why we're considering Ramen instead

[merry wren]

then get rid of the red card or ramen

[terse dock]

The best option would be to install debug+ and remove the eternal from 8ball and sell it

[signal frigate]

Getting rid of the red card doesn't change anything

Ramen could be the best option

[merry wren]

if youre easily scoring then 50 less chips from the red card will be cancelled out by the extra x2 you get with brainstorm

[tepid lichen]

no it wont... ill show u guys

[signal frigate]

You are losing out on scoring it twice because it's a brainstorm, not a blueprint

[terse dock]

The eternal on the bs could've fucked him on leaf too

[signal frigate]

You'd have to move Holo before Red card

[lavish gazelle]

Yeah bs doesn't do anything here

[signal frigate]

And then you've screwed the joker positioning

[terse dock]

He's on purple stake i think he was just bored

[merry wren]

isnt it more sensible to take brainstorm and start the shift to xmult and move out of +mult idk

[signal frigate]

Then I really don't know why they took it

[terse dock]

Bored

Or erotic deck chicanery

[lavish gazelle]

The what

[terse dock]

Erotic deck?

[signal frigate]

Erratic

[tepid lichen]

I started withlike 9 8's it was super worth

[signal frigate]

Erotic is funni

[terse dock]

Same thing

[tepid lichen]

no regrets for 8 ball

great joker

[terse dock]

It insists upon itself

[unreal iron]

not a fan of the 8 ball

it insists upon itself

"but its really decent direction and can generate tarots"

not a fan of it

(/s)

[tepid lichen]

alright lets see if my build can beat violet vessel

update:nope

[dense stag]

kill me

[terse dock]

What's wrong here

[crude sonnet]

I tried to send the 6 7 gif and it got blocked lmao

But yeah 6 7

[deft sandal]

the ultimate counter to the tooth: Rough gem

most of the jokers are just there to get the gold sticker

[covert storm]

Is there like endless mode of the jump in Balatro?

[crude sonnet]

Yeah after you win you can just go endless

[signal frigate]

You can go endless once you beat ante 8

The game isn't balanced around it though

So, you'll eventually lose

[covert storm]

That I know, but I mean like without the caviot of winning

[signal frigate]

No.

[crude sonnet]

Uhhh no

[covert storm]

Damn

[signal frigate]

That doesn't make any sense

The option is there

[crude sonnet]

You have to play the game to go into endless

[signal frigate]

Why would you immediately go to ante 9 without any jokers?

[covert storm]

I guess yeah

[signal frigate]

Can you score 120 thousand without any jokers?

[deft sandal]

look inside

[covert storm]

That’s not what I was trying to say to say, I just thought it would be fun to play withouth the idea of having to choose a chip and focus on knocking out antes. Just deck building and getting high scores. That’s all

[deft sandal]

I would go in debt if I take both of those

[signal frigate]

You do have the option of doing that

[terse dock]

Yes

[fleet rose]

• 8 MULT
  said the joker calmly

[quartz ember]

nice

[neat ore]

How good is 5 copies of speculative oops?

[tranquil cargo]

if you have lucky cards, it's crazy economy and +mult

[covert storm]

Hopefully everything starts working out

[quartz ember]

best.

[deft sandal]

hell yeah, nebula deck completed

[covert storm]

I’m a happy man

[neat ore]

Obelisk absolutely sucks

[neat ore]

Why would you do that??

Skipping is bad

That what roffle say

[covert storm]

Lmfaooo

I wanted all the negatives

[neat ore]

You should never skip tho

[vague sequoia]

Is this ragebait

[hushed bison]

white stake green deck is literally just free wins this is my 3rd photochad run in a row

[vague sequoia]

Ante 1 econ tag