🕹・game-discussion

[unreal iron]

free temperance value ngl

[dark cairn]

YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE

[unreal iron]

i dream of an actual good pareidolia run

[somber geode]

gold stake beating my ass on blue deck

[unreal iron]

so much value until you roll plant or mark

[harsh juniper]

didnt skip, got spectral

[signal frigate]

I don't need a crutch to win

[somber geode]

but I beat painted deck in 2 attempts

[signal frigate]

Sell the egg

Just sell the jokers you don't want Ecto'd

[dark cairn]

im neutral on painted deck

[unreal iron]

just git guud :3

[finite spade]

stupid chud game!! (no justice(i think))

[harsh juniper]

i wanna buy steel joker but selling the stupid negative egg wont free me a space ill have to sell something else too lol

[dark cairn]

i thought painted deck was fun on lower stakes

[somber geode]

I will steal the ram out of all your electronics

[dark cairn]

but on black stake and higher the -1 joker slot really sucks

[unreal iron]

uhhh i ate it all

[dark cairn]

and blue stake still makes straights and stuff hard to go for

[unreal iron]

yeah no more ram for you to steal

[unreal iron]

there were a few gs painted runs where i completely forgot i was playing on painted and picked up like 3 eternals

and i couldnt grab the xmult wincon

fuck my stupid chud life

[floral mural]

this is a super easy choice i assume

[dark cairn]

i took an eternal photograph banking on finding a chad and it never came

[unreal iron]

i like grimbo more

idk

[floral mural]

even if green joker disables discards it also doesnt get obliterated by eye in theory

[dark cairn]

grimblo bimblo

[floral mural]

well "disables"

it just discourages them early

[dark cairn]

green joker + delgrat = cool too

honestly though

im kinda surprised my first gold sticker legendary was canio

[floral mural]

just golden joker

[dark cairn]

i was expecting it to be chicot given how much i get screwed over by bosses

[unreal iron]

mine were both yorick

goatrick clearly

[dark cairn]

merry andy
drunkard
red deck
vouchers

[floral mural]

god if i take square here it ruins my econ for a bit but makes me solved for mult and chips

[floral mural]

if im taking any of those except for running red deck it aint for delgrat

delayed gratification kinda sucks ngl

[unreal iron]

-1 hand size
3 joker slots
cant even use the discards or else you dont get your 14$

is it 14$?

more ig

[unreal iron]

i dont like the fact that you need to not use your discards for it

[dark cairn]

1: why would you discard with grimbo
2: if you have empty joker slots why not
3: that $14 per round is a lot of money to help look for jokers and consumables you need

[unreal iron]

if it just gave 2$ per discard at the end of the round

regardless if used or not

then it'd be fine

[unreal iron]

grimbo wasnt mentioned?

was it

[acoustic kettle]

This is a good buff

[dark cairn]

my original statement was grimbo + delgrat = cool

:/

[unreal iron]

oh

yeah thats a cool combo

[dark cairn]

thats like

[unreal iron]

that carries early

[dark cairn]

literally hte only time i take delgrat

[floral mural]

yeah but outside of red deck it gets mogged by golden joker

[acoustic kettle]

It gets mogged nonetheless

[floral mural]

it just gets ruined by blue stake

[unreal iron]

its just a bad econ joker

extremely specific condition for not a ton of money in exchange

[floral mural]

so i wanna skip brainstorm here as crazy as that sounds

every run needs sticker slots and brainstorm is a functional 2x at best

currently

[unreal iron]

oh if you're stickering you might as well skip brainstorm

take hack and pants tho

[dark cairn]

10/15 decks goldified now

[unreal iron]

yayyyyy

whats next

[dark cairn]

wow this font makes numbers look unreadable

thankas discord

[dark cairn]

im thinking nebula or zodiac

the 5 remaining are:
black, green, nebula, zodiac, plasma

[unreal iron]

oh god

[dark cairn]

[unreal iron]

yeah i think go with zodiac

or you can do like green -> nebula -> zodiac

[dark cairn]

i'm not TOO worried about nebula deck because telescope is prob my favourite voucher

[unreal iron]

zodiac can be a nice little treat

[dark cairn]

HELL no

i hate green deck

[unreal iron]

:(

[dark cairn]

when i first played the game green deck took me the 2nd longest to get my first white stake win on

[unreal iron]

DEFINITELY keep plasma last

[acoustic kettle]

Nah

[unreal iron]

it is hell incarnate

[dark cairn]

black deck took longest obviously

[acoustic kettle]

Plasma goated

My first gold stake is plasma

[dark cairn]

ive heard plasma is the 2nd worst deck to gold stake

and green is 3rd

[unreal iron]

my plasma is actively worse than black

i struggle so much on plasma

[acoustic kettle]

That's just a skill issue ain't it

[unreal iron]

"oh wow a run that goes pretty well" and i die to an ante 6 wall

like every time

[dark cairn]

i've watched enough drspectred plasma deck runs that i THINK i know what im doing?

[unreal iron]

plasma gives false hope

and it sucks

[dark cairn]

but we'll see how quickly that falls flat

[distant vault]

Abk ballin

[unreal iron]

it really is

[unreal iron]

doc just spams chips lmao

[dark cairn]

black deck though uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeah no

early game is already the most miserable part of the game for me 9 times out of 10

[unreal iron]

plasma early isnt miserable at all at least

a5 and later is when it gets so ass

[dark cairn]

unless i run into a boss blind on ante 6 or 7 (do not fucking say it) that hard counters me and i die

[acoustic kettle]

Wall

Then vv

[unreal iron]

flint wall vv

[dark cairn]

if theres one thing id have to say i really dont like about balatro

is that 90% of its bosses basically just seem like "Fuck this build in particular"

[dark cairn]

i actually don't mind the wall or vv because it doesn't discriminate against builds

its just a test of scoring

[unreal iron]

can the game give me the wheel for every single ante

such a nothing burger boss

[dark cairn]

oh yeah that reminds me

i had my first run where the psychic actually slightly mattered for once today

half joker moment

[unreal iron]

half joker into psychic is just painful

every time

its not too bad ante 1 tbf but like later on?

if halfsies is your only +mult its so so bad

[dark cairn]

alright so

my final plan for deck completions is

zodiac next

then nebula

then green

then plasma

then black

[acoustic kettle]

I went plasma to ghost to abandoned

Now either painted or yellow

Probably painted

[dark cairn]

you know what i think would be interesting

a deck that makes 2 vouchers appear every ante

[acoustic kettle]

Sounds

Interesting

[bleak hemlock]

starts barking

[hoary orchid]

exactly my though :/

just luck i guess

[bleak hemlock]

same for 🍌

[last bolt]

forget everything i said, i love red deck!!!!

[smoky junco]

probably nothing compared to y'all but this is a personal best for most jokers lol

and personal best round score

there was no plan besides get a shit ton of jokers and hope they synergize

[vocal trellis]

Niceee

[shadow spruce]

finally

just gotta make it through now

[last bolt]

I hate Chicot

or

idk actually

it was kinda mid for me and he [kinda] helped me on black deck

then on red a while ago

[shadow spruce]

the ante 7 boss blind is the eye that would've been the end of my run without chicot

what now

new gold stickers yay

[manic talon]

sometimes you just gotta do Fullskip madness

[manic talon]

zero eternal Gold stake madness do be kinda funny

[lunar zealot]

vayn

what the hell

[mossy finch]

best shop I've seen today

[manic talon]

if you have an X5 madness then find a Brainstorm you just need to do it, also got a random ass Invis joker on ante 6

madness into fullskipping because you found a good non-eternal gotta be my favorite Balala run archetype (after bloodstone)

[shadow spruce]

cool

[analog mulch]

DAWG WHAT IS THIS SHOP

[shadow spruce]

roll down for it on the ante 7 big blind shop or later

it's a common it shouldn't be hard to find

[sullen mica]

can i use hex to put polychrome on an already foil joker?

[shadow spruce]

No

[sullen mica]

🙁

stuck with foil blueprint ig

[terse vale]

pretty swag

[lunar zealot]

hello chat

you want to beat the ante 1 small blind in 1 hand

how do you discard

[violet bear]

Q high straight or one of the flushes i think

[terse vale]

flush

[acoustic kettle]

Ace high straight

[wicked sonnet]

double tag polychrome tag royal flush and this is the ensuing shop

[terse vale]

doesn’t matter if its hearts or clubs I guess

[wicked sonnet]

someone sock my buskin NOW

[acoustic kettle]

Why do you want snb

[unreal iron]

queen high or king high straight

if you wanna go flush you do either hearts or clubs

probably clubs since you can still get q 9

[wicked sonnet]

i don't it was funny joke and everyone stood up and laughed

didn't you see everyone laughing?

[acoustic kettle]

[wicked sonnet]

now i just gotta not kill the run

need a scoring joker and i'm set

[sullen mica]

rental..

js lost the run

[lunar zealot]

i think this is the stupidest run i've ever had in my life

[sullen mica]

whats the 4th one

[narrow wadi]

wraith angle?

[lunar zealot]

wow, baron! you kind of sort of contributed a tiny bit!

that run was fucking idiotic

[lunar zealot]

i hated it but also kinda liked it

[red thistle]

Holy xmult batman.

[acoustic kettle]

I don't see as much obelisk love anywhere else

[lunar zealot]

I think my obelisk was x10

[acoustic kettle]

Obelisk bottom 5 joker

[quartz ember]

so true obelisk is always carrying the run

[manic talon]

Whats the obelisk hand spread

[royal bobcat]

Always.

[royal bobcat]

Bottom five joker of the "I'm a terrible joker" list

[acoustic kettle]

Bottom 5 of easy skips

[narrow wadi]

fr lol

[finite wharf]

white stake is fun

[royal bobcat]

Bottom 5 of ragebaits

[narrow wadi]

lowkey given i got the perfect build for scaling dagger in the dagger challenge it might be goodbye burnt idk

[royal bobcat]

Makes me sleepy

[narrow wadi]

maybe it's goodbye egg actaully idk

[acoustic kettle]

Obelisk is such a bottom

[quartz ember]

true, it is very based

[royal bobcat]

Obelisk would be a pretty tall bottom

[finite wharf]

wait ill show jokers cos run dies ante 10

half/gift card/hiker were from ante 1/2

rest were ante 5, thrn dr spec was fresh ante 9

[acoustic kettle]

Swash would've gone crazy

[wicked sonnet]

FINALLY got the photo

what order do i do this

invis is ready

[finite wharf]

roughly +95ish mult

run just died lmao

[finite wharf]

sell mail in and chad, rip invis, buy photo

[quartz ember]

dont sell chad

[wicked sonnet]

do you mean sell mail in + sb?

[finite wharf]

common + polychrome isnt a run changer at ante 10

[acoustic kettle]

Common doesn't reall change anything

[finite wharf]

if you're running sb i hope you have good deck fixing done

[quartz ember]

sell rebate, buy photo, rip invis

[simple jacinth]

banana gold staked

[acoustic kettle]

Sb doing less than chad

[wicked sonnet]

i've been waiting for this photo all run

[finite wharf]

conmon makes it easier to find in shop tbf

[simple jacinth]

also...I could've done this

[quartz ember]

ok photo is common so why take that

[wicked sonnet]

but with photo

[wicked sonnet]

it was pretty much just in the hope i got photo so i could get an extra hit lol

and then i had to move to glass face cards cuz i didn't have the scoring

[acoustic kettle]

Damn

[quartz ember]

bloodstone, yes!

[finite wharf]

bloodstone pog run ender ante 1

[acoustic kettle]

Great early shops

[terse totem]

uhhh i just started a new run and instantly got the tiny hands achievement... i tried removing it but it just happened again

why?

[acoustic kettle]

I picked up eternal drivers license

So far no enhancement tarots in 5 packs

💔

[lunar zealot]

you have rebate

reroll

also open standards and speccies

[acoustic kettle]

Oh well i found obelisk anyway

I win

[terse totem]

im so sad :(

[acoustic kettle]

Got obelisk and blueprint

Drivers license ended up useless

[obsidian patrol]

i guess we doin this now

[hollow prairie]

oh my days

[hollow prairie]

why are you sad

[terse totem]

because i got the achievement

[signal lark]

guys what the heck is economy and online?

[acoustic kettle]

What

[gaunt tulip]

economy is your ability to make money with unused hands/joker abilities

[acoustic kettle]

Discord is online

[tranquil steppe]

Economy is getting hermits and triggering lucky cards to save joker slots

And temperance

[signal lark]

k

[willow frost]

economy is getting money, online is having something work

[signal lark]

right

thanks

[hollow prairie]

what's sad about tiny hands

[signal lark]

i smhw didnt know that

[willow frost]

np

[tranquil steppe]

I’m Kevin. 7/11

[hollow prairie]

67

[tranquil steppe]

🤷

[lunar zealot]

you can't spell economy withour enomy

and enomy if yto reannage the leters

you get

money

and moeny

idk where i'm going with this

[terse totem]

i got it as soon as i started a new run, no idea how or why

so i got the achievement unfairly

:(

[obsidian patrol]

do you have mods installed

[signal frigate]

Econ/Economy = Money
Online = getting your build working

[acoustic kettle]

Keep going

[signal frigate]

I would say "I'll take it." Unless it's really unfair

[hollow prairie]

it's fine

[terse totem]

its not fine for me

[terse totem]

that is pretty damn unfair

[signal frigate]

How so?

[terse totem]

because i just got it for no reason??

[acoustic kettle]

I don't think little hands is that hard anyway

Don't sweat it

[terse totem]

it doesnt matter

[signal frigate]

You probably did get it fairly

[terse totem]

i didnt get it

its unfair

[terse totem]

i didnt even try

i didnt get it at all

its not fair

!!!

[signal frigate]

20 cards is pretty fuckin easy

[willow frost]

just get it again then

[terse totem]

well i want to GET it to get the achievement like a normal person and not be given it

[signal frigate]

I would probably understand if it's something like C+

[terse totem]

theres no "again"

[signal frigate]

Bro, Tiny hands is extremely easy

[acoustic kettle]

Pretend to do it

[willow frost]

yeah there is buy a new device and get yo stupid ass achievement

💯

[signal frigate]

You probably got it without realising

[terse totem]

r u literally not reading what im saying

[signal frigate]

I am.

[terse totem]

yeah ur ragebaiting

[acoustic kettle]

I mean i won't complain if i got like the open inventory achievment in minecraft for no reason

[signal frigate]

Why stress about it?

[terse totem]

lmao

[signal frigate]

Are you??

Like bro, it's not that deep, even if you got it for no reason, I don't think it would do that

[narrow wadi]

doing the mad world challenge rn, my first hand was a full house and i got 0/5 business card procs, second hand another full house and 5/5 business card procs. what are the chances of that happening?

[signal frigate]

50%?

[willow frost]

youd have to tell us the contents of your deck

[narrow wadi]

it's the mad world challenge, pareidolia and business card start

so everything is a picture card

[pale wolf]

You would probably unlock tiny hands naturally through normal gameplay anyways, it's just the result of a really good game of deck fixing

[willow frost]

and exactly what cards you played

[narrow wadi]

the cards do not matter it is pareidolia

[signal frigate]

It's one of those achievements that make me go "What?"

[willow frost]

the ranks do

[signal frigate]

Cuz it just happens naturally

[narrow wadi]

they do not, it is pareidolia

[signal frigate]

And I never realise it

[pale wolf]

I got tiny hands long before big hands

[signal frigate]

So Idk why they'd get this bothered by it

[willow frost]

because its harder to make a full house containing 6s if youre already made a full house containing 6s, for instance

[signal frigate]

Hologram helps alot with big hands

[acoustic kettle]

What are you saying

[pale wolf]

You need a really good hologram game if you don't play endless like me lol

[narrow wadi]

oh i was asking the chances to get 0/5 and 5/5 business card procs in 2 hands, that was the crazy thing

[willow frost]

oh ok

[pale wolf]

and simultaneously a really bad hologram game because You can't remove cards

[signal frigate]

If I'm doing achievements, I always go endless just so I don't have to do it again

[willow frost]

1 in 1024

[pale wolf]

well if we're talking about things that you would accidentally unlock anyways

[signal frigate]

Then that makes sense

[acoustic kettle]

Pairs just dgaf about deck bloat

[pale wolf]

there's a lot of the achievements that I didn't realize when I actually got them

[signal frigate]

DNA, Hologram, Cert, Stone and alotta standard packs

Funnily enough, the $400 achievement I just got randomly

[lunar zealot]

pp

[pale wolf]

yup

and the full skip ones

i got those without knowing

[signal frigate]

The full skip ones are surprisingly easy?

That's the only time I'd wanna skip without cursing the game for it

[pale wolf]

I straight up was just doing full skip things for fun because I was just starting out

[signal frigate]

I always get them both at the same time

I also gotta skip for tags I haven't unlocked yet

And I'm 100% regretting this decision but I'm doing black Deck as my 9th gold stake

[pale wolf]

I sort of think you're supposed to naturally unlock those while trying to get the full skip

with a lot of deaths

ostensibly

[signal frigate]

I just skipped brainlessly to get the achievements lmfao

Since it's white stake, it's hard to lose even when you skip that much

[willow frost]

dont you have c++ already

[signal frigate]

Yeah, in 3 profiles

I'm doing my 4th, this time extremely slowly so I don't burn myself out

[willow frost]

sure gl

[magic tree]

I sell hanging chad right?

[willow frost]

yes

[magic tree]

okay thx

[narrow wadi]

lmao, i never realised this worked like this

[signal frigate]

Yeah that happened to me a while ago

Except I was at -6 dollars cuz it was rental

[tough nacelle]

so... do I play this or keep it in my hand?

[acoustic kettle]

Why would you keep.it

[cloud sinew]

the card says nothing about being played or scored

[sleek shore]

keep it in your hand

for +10 mult

[acoustic kettle]

Oh wait

Yeah

[cloud sinew]

yoiu have to play it and score it to get the chance at +20 mult and +$20

[acoustic kettle]

Damn

[silver mortar]

bought game yesterday, hit 1.6mil, should I consider game finished at this point? XD

[acoustic kettle]

Literally unplayable

[sleek shore]

you didnt get naneinf

noob

[silver mortar]

gotcha

as I thought

[acoustic kettle]

Doesn't even beat ante 8 vv on plasma

Btw

[cloud sinew]

yes it does

[acoustic kettle]

Pretty sure it is 2.4

[sleek shore]

yes

[cloud sinew]

on purple stake+

[acoustic kettle]

Oh yeah

Low stakes aren't real

[sleek shore]

plasma deck white stake is certainly a difficulty of all time

[silver mortar]

purple is which one? count wise

[sleek shore]

third last

[gloomy swallow]

a nat Holo perky!! Wow!

[sleek shore]

third hardest

[acoustic kettle]

I fucking hate perkeo

[sleek shore]

gg

[silver mortar]

are there 8 total?

[acoustic kettle]

Where the fuck is he

[sleek shore]

yes

[tight pike]

Yes

[sleek shore]

what deck are you playing?

[tight pike]

Purple is kind of shit imo

(Stake)

[acoustic kettle]

Damn you're good

[sleek shore]

purple and blue are awful

[manic talon]

vagabond mime, when youre dirt poor, but also Filthy rich

[silver mortar]

:^(

[tight pike]

On its own it aint a problem, it's a combination of purple and the discard loss

[acoustic kettle]

No really

I suck when i started

[sleek shore]

you are progressing super quickly

my first game I didnt even beat the small blind lol

[acoustic kettle]

Took me days for my first win

You're on black stake already

Great progress

[silver mortar]

Gamers not being rude? No way, Thanks

[sleek shore]

btw what deck are you playing

[silver mortar]

That was black, mainly because I didn't bother to swap

rn probably should pick better deck once I unlock others

[sleek shore]

damn your playing black deck??

[acoustic kettle]

Holy

[cloud sinew]

every other deck is better /gen

[acoustic kettle]

Lebron james of balatro

[sleek shore]

black deck is the hardest deck

[silver mortar]

lol

[acoustic kettle]

We're witnessing a prodigy

[manic talon]

you might be pretty good at the game fr

[sleek shore]

your not gonna enjoy gold stake black deck

let me tell you that

[silver mortar]

I imagined that deck to be greedy deck

[tough nacelle]

uhhh help? Should I buy this?

These are all brand new jokers for me

[silver mortar]

but given that you don't really scale to 6 good jokers if you didn't high roll with it, I opt to swapping yeah

[sleek shore]

the issue with that deck is how hard the early game is. -1 hand means your econ is worse and you have less chances of scoring

[cloud sinew]

I don't understand what you mean by this

[silver mortar]

Yeah, I can see that, albeit I roll for good 1-2 first skips

[sleek shore]

there is many seeds where its super difficult to even beat ante 1

for black deck

[manic talon]

hallucination would help you actually find a tarot in your consumable slot to make perkeo actually do something

[acoustic kettle]

Skipping is not that great

Actually

[sleek shore]

they are early game

[tough nacelle]

Any rec on what to sell?

[silver mortar]

if you roll free rare joker with 1.5* mod it is

[cloud sinew]

popcorn

[silver mortar]

you just press new game until you get that

[tough nacelle]

kk

[sleek shore]

actually no

[cloud sinew]

no it isnt

[acoustic kettle]

Eh

[silver mortar]

or something else

free shop maybe

[tough nacelle]

now shoyuld I open that arcana pack?

[acoustic kettle]

Skipping is more risky in black deck since you have less hand to play with

[sleek shore]

its only good for investment tag (25 cash when boss is defeated)

[silver mortar]

Gotcha

Will correct my strategy and swap handycapping deck

Which one do you suggest

I have all but 2 I guess rn

[cloud sinew]

this also isn't true. coupon is also worth it quite often, just less so than investment, and charm tag is worth early on black deck

[sleek shore]

but you only skip if you absolutely need the money and know for a fact your scoring is enough

[sleek shore]

yeah

[silver mortar]

you'll just lose next fight given that assumption

[rustic aspen]

I like investment or holographic tag if they show up on ante 1 round 1, since past red stake you barely get any money from that first small blind

[sleek shore]

mb I corrected it

[silver mortar]

gotcha

[cloud sinew]

stickers make hologram not worth it

specifically rental more than anything

[silver mortar]

what deck do you suggest to go to 5th difficulty?

[tough nacelle]

ooook so do I use this or keep it?

[sleek shore]

id switch to blue/yellow since they are the easiest

[cloud sinew]

blue, yellow, abandoned, zodiac, checkered

[silver mortar]

keep negative one, and duplicate it each time

[tough nacelle]

k

[acoustic kettle]

The difficulties are all separate btw

[silver mortar]

gotcha

[rustic aspen]

if I get a bad skip from skipping round 1 you best believe I'm restarting

[tough nacelle]

I'm on day 3 of playing this and sooooo much I don't know

[cloud sinew]

that's a loser's mentality

[acoustic kettle]

Believe in the bad skips = good shops

[silver mortar]

I havent' slept today , that's a disaster

[acoustic kettle]

[tight pike]

Wait, is ghost not an easy one?

[acoustic kettle]

Isn't ghost like

[sleek shore]

not the easiest but not the worst

[acoustic kettle]

Mid game ish deck

[rustic aspen]

[floral mural]

ghost is easy but less consistent overall compared to yellow and blue

[acoustic kettle]

I haven't played blue deck at all....

[cloud sinew]

if you're taking suboptimal routes and then just restarting when you get hit with the consequences of your actions then you'll never learn to get better, because getting better means not taking the suboptimal route

[sleek shore]

for gold sticker hunting I exclusively played yellow deck

[silver mortar]

checkered looks interesting, what is the play here specifically?

[tough nacelle]

and I died

[cloud sinew]

for checkered or for all of the ones I said

[sleek shore]

checkered is really good if your new to the game

[silver mortar]

For checkered

[silver mortar]

that is the case, yeah

[cloud sinew]

checkered is top 5 regardless

[cloud sinew]

flushes

[tight pike]

Plasma is difficult ain't it?

[silver mortar]

gotcha

[acoustic kettle]

Pladma is different

[cloud sinew]

until purple stake, no

[sleek shore]

haha wait till you play purple stake

[floral mural]

plasma is one of the hardest decks

[acoustic kettle]

For me plasna is easiest

Just because i play it the most

[floral mural]

purple stake plasma is so stupid

[sleek shore]

plasma purple stake is bullshit

[cloud sinew]

likely because you're playing lower stakes

[floral mural]

also as much as i love green deck it aint too great

[tight pike]

Isn't like the only strat like spamming poly red seal rocks?

[silver mortar]

Soo, what is the consensus here? Skipping 1 or 1 and 2nd fights when.... ?

[acoustic kettle]

I hunted chips gold stickers already on it

Got most of them

[floral mural]

abk played gold stake plasma a lot. the issue is they only played plasma for a long while

[tacit oasis]

Damn erratic deck can be fun. Started with a bunch of 9s and 2s and got wee and cloud 9 in the first shops.

First time playing flush fives if 2s got wee up to 1000 I love this game in the rare moments I don’t lose

[acoustic kettle]

I only have 3 gold decks rn

[cloud sinew]

playing plasma for a long time doesn't change that purple+ makes it go from a top 5 deck to bottom 2

[sleek shore]

the worst 2 decks for me is plasma and black

[acoustic kettle]

Eh

[tight pike]

I like how green isn't even mentioned here

[acoustic kettle]

Never really had difficulty on the pivot phase

[rustic aspen]

I think you are assuming I skip more than I actually do, and what I consider a bad skip

[cloud sinew]

What's your winrate at gold stake then

[acoustic kettle]

Though now i am going for c+ it does feel easier

[sleek shore]

I'm pretty sure I got really lucky with my green deck runs because honestly I didnt hate the deck

but im not gonna play it again to remember how green deck is like

[acoustic kettle]

Never really counted

Around like 50%

If i have to guess

[cloud sinew]

I don't believe that at all

[tranquil steppe]

Yea up there with painted, anaglyph, abandoned, green, etc

[sleek shore]

50% is absurd

[cloud sinew]

you cannot ragebait me

[acoustic kettle]

Well i got better over time

[shell dagger]

-ly high or low?

[acoustic kettle]

Haven't touched that deck in a while now

[cloud sinew]

I'm just saying that if you restart when you make suboptimal decisions that aren't rewarded instead of just not making those suboptimal decisions then I think you are a bad player

[floral mural]

this constellation seems tempting

[acoustic kettle]

Going c+

[sleek shore]

very high for someone with only 3 gold stake deck completed

[floral mural]

especially with the temperance near it

[shell dagger]

fair

[tranquil steppe]

Do it

[acoustic kettle]

Like 80 - 90% of my balatro time is on plasma

[shell dagger]

im so sorry

[tacit oasis]

Bruh I’ve watched so many balatro university runs that I hear him talking in my head while I play.

“YaaAaaAAs”

[acoustic kettle]

I really never touched other decks at that time

Got bored

[sleek shore]

I dont understand how someone can enjoy plasma deck

[cloud sinew]

that doesn't change the fundamentals. even if I only played black deck for 100 hours at the start, it would be incredibly unlikely for me to be getting a 50% winrate

[acoustic kettle]

Maybe i misremembered

Though i win almost half of the time i start a run

Maybe 40 30% range

[shell dagger]

the lack of a need for early scoring often allows for fun econ/deckfixing runs

[cloud sinew]

what platform are you on?

[shell dagger]

but it is obv harder than most decks

less consistent

[acoustic kettle]

Mobile and pc

[sleek shore]

the late game is brutal

[cloud sinew]

which mobile platform

[acoustic kettle]

Android

Mostly

[cloud sinew]

you can view your stats on balatrostats then

by exporting your Play Games data with Google Takeout

[silver mortar]

halfway there

Huh? Straight flash and royal flash?

[sleek shore]

flash😭

[silver mortar]

flush

whatever, never played poker

[sleek shore]

and royal flush is straight flush

[silver mortar]

thanks

[acoustic kettle]

Wait

Why is my

Balatro not appear

[sleek shore]

2% winrate

[acoustic kettle]

On the thing

[shell dagger]

2% is very high that’s like over 1.9 every 100 runs

[acoustic kettle]

Might be on the wrong account

What account did i use again

[silver mortar]

trolling, that guy is

[sleek shore]

damn gg

[acoustic kettle]

Great legendary pull

[sleek shore]

you basically cant lose now

[acoustic kettle]

Oh damn my discord isn't even on my main google account

[silver mortar]

Well, gotta destroy faces I guess

[acoustic kettle]

Gotta pull the archives for this one

[narrow wadi]

yo i never knew that this is how 4 fingers worked

[tranquil steppe]

Lord Canio!!!!

[narrow wadi]

i assumed that the straight flush needed to be both at the same time

but if a hand has a straight and a flush it works

that's pretty cool

[tranquil steppe]

4 fingers definitely has it’s purpose

[sleek shore]

oh I never knew that

[acoustic kettle]

Four fingies shenanigans

It is a flush

[narrow wadi]

it makes straights easier and straights scaling is great so i like picking one up early

[acoustic kettle]

It is a straight

[olive totem]

erm actually, if you read the hand description of straight flush, you will notice it

[acoustic kettle]

Straight flush

[tranquil steppe]

It also can help with stuff like blackboard where your 5th card can be a throwaway red card

[olive totem]

🤓☝️

[narrow wadi]

this hand description does not explain the 4 fingers interaction in the slightest lol

[acoustic kettle]

For straights i prefer shortcut tbh

[narrow wadi]

shortcut is better for sure

but four fingers is still good

[sleek shore]

its not even a competition

shortcut is infinitely better than four fingers

[olive totem]

oh I thought it said straight and flush at the same time...

[acoustic kettle]

The game just checks
Straight ✅
Flush✅
Straight flush

[stiff ore]

Has anyone here used the Balatro calculator

[shell dagger]

ive used the balatro calculator

[stiff ore]

How do you change the value of the stake? I don't see anywhere to change it off of white

[shell dagger]

idk if you can

what do you need to change it for

[acoustic kettle]

What do you need it for

[stiff ore]

I suppose at the end of the day it doesn't actually change the value of the score just the required amount my bad

[acoustic kettle]

Well you just see what your hand scores

[stiff ore]

Yeah for some reason my brain wasn't processing that green stake doesn't affect your score it just affects the amount required

I'm still kind of waking up LOL

[lament smelt]

lowk thinking about buying both of them

but it might be too late

[stiff ore]

Wow I'm in the exact same boat

i know these work with eachother

[sleek shore]

buy and sell for campfire value

[stiff ore]

i just wish it wasnt the first shop

[lament smelt]

im in a slightly worse position

[sleek shore]

they totally do

[lament smelt]

its already ante 5 and i need a proper mult joker

[sleek shore]

you are missing out on insane scoring

[stiff ore]

Because you can remove all discards and get plus three hands and then get three extra discards

[sleek shore]

not how it works

[stiff ore]

is it the other way around

[sleek shore]

merry andy is a passive meaning you insantly get the discards

[stiff ore]

oh right lol

[sleek shore]

and when you enter a stage burgaler removes all discards

so you have 0 discards and -1 hand size

[stiff ore]

oh right im mixing it up with bugular needle

my bad

[wicked sonnet]

negative ectoplasm (-1 joker slot, -1 hand size)

[sleek shore]

$7 negative ecto

[stiff ore]

needle goes first and brings me down to one hand, and then burgular give me 3 extra for the boss

anyways should i go merry andy or burgular

[wicked sonnet]

jimbo HATES this one simple trick

[wicked sonnet]

i'd go burglar

more money from hands

and you don't lose anyting

[stiff ore]

my discards, meaning i gotta use played hands dto discard

[sleek shore]

yeah but you get +3 hands

[pale wolf]

lol wut

[wicked sonnet]

yes but if you get your draw straight away you get $5 from hands

[pale wolf]

no they don't

[stiff ore]

yeah i got them mixed up with burgalar needle

[sleek shore]

forgive the early game player

[wicked sonnet]

so if you only needed 2 discards to find your hand, you gain $1 in total

[sleek shore]

he is still nub

[pale wolf]

and why is that bad

[soft vapor]

😭 😭 😭

[pale wolf]

hands are the same thing as discards, except that you score

and obviously discard Jokers

[wicked sonnet]

how do i get obelisk to work

[stiff ore]

alright there we go

[sleek shore]

its impossible

[soft vapor]

Pivot or something

[wicked sonnet]

i thought so

first shop obelisk

[obsidian patrol]

spam pairs

[narrow wadi]

try get a hand to like 14 then just play other hands

[obsidian patrol]

play other hands

[narrow wadi]

if u wanna be rly safe u can play like 20 pairs

but 14 is generally the point u can pivot at

[stiff ore]

welp so much for that

[wicked sonnet]

okay

how bro fail that 😭

[narrow wadi]

assuming u know this but u can check how many of each hand u have played in run info

[wicked sonnet]

yes yes

never got an obelisk run to work lol

[narrow wadi]

it's a very very strong joker tbf

i'd put it like a+/s tier

[wicked sonnet]

i can see that

hard to work around though

[narrow wadi]

it scales so goddamn fast

[wicked sonnet]

need other scoring jokers in the meantime

[soft vapor]

Didn't even know fib was uncommon

[narrow wadi]

it generally comes online around ante4 which is when the required scoring rly starts to scale faster so that's quite nice

u can get to act 4 with like 2 random scoring jokers

[wicked sonnet]

yeah i got shoot the moon that's good for a few antes

[narrow wadi]

there's my goat, john bones jones

[wicked sonnet]

just spamming pairs at the moment

[narrow wadi]

nice

if u haven't used obelisk a lot i'd do a few more than 14 pairs

14 can be a little dicey

[wicked sonnet]

alright cheers

[narrow wadi]

np

[wicked sonnet]

in ante 2 with 13 already 🔥

[narrow wadi]

getting c++ honestly made me so much better at the game by forcing me to use jokers that i previously thought were bad

[narrow wadi]

very nice

[wicked sonnet]

i still haven't unlocked all the jokers yet it's making me mad

[silver mortar]

Im

[acoustic kettle]

I haven't either

[wicked sonnet]

all i need is trib i think

[silver mortar]

That's funny

[narrow wadi]

i don't have completionist but i have completionist++ lol

[ocean yoke]

Wild

Progression

[narrow wadi]

i'm missing the discard skip tag

just never taken it

[formal abyss]

i dont have c++ yet but i did get c+ before it too

i never took the 2nd magic trick voucher

[acoustic kettle]

I unfortunately can't c++ before c

[narrow wadi]

idr why i took this, maybe a hologram run? i mean the 2nd magic trick voucher is kinda a nerf but idk

maybe it was like a high score white stake run where i needed retcon so wanted vouchers out the pool

that would make more sense

that's the only reason i can rly think to take second magic trick voucher

[wicked sonnet]

just entirely miscalculated and lost the obelisk run

was about to start getting it online

[narrow wadi]

rip, it happens tbf

[wicked sonnet]

scored like 40 less than what i needed

[obsidian patrol]

hows is it a nerf

[formal abyss]

its like the worst skip tag technically(?)

[narrow wadi]

i lost a run earlier from misclicking to sell the wrong joker

[wicked sonnet]

ouch

[narrow wadi]

enhanced cards cost a shit ton

like 5 bucks i think

[obsidian patrol]

thats true

[narrow wadi]

compared to 1 of unenhanced

[frank grove]

yeah

[narrow wadi]

ur using magic trick basically to scale holo

so u don't care what the cards ur adding are

[formal abyss]

magic trick and holo is hot but hitting an incantation is way hotter

[halcyon portal]

Should i buy ballot or not?

Should i?

[wicked sonnet]

what is ur base mult

[narrow wadi]

tbf all skip tags are bad other than maybe investment tag which has one use case i got most of the skip tags from needing to keep a perishable tbf

[narrow wadi]

instant 2x is so sexy

[wicked sonnet]

and what's the party joker at?

[narrow wadi]

if it's the same turn u bought it as well

[narrow wadi]

swashbuckler gift card

[halcyon portal]

Swash? 68

[narrow wadi]

very good scaling +mult

swash neg gift card is crazy

[halcyon portal]

2x,i just get it in ante before

[wicked sonnet]

i'd sell that for chad

actually no

would i

idk

[narrow wadi]

throwback is so bad

[narrow wadi]

nah 2x is good

what is chad doing?

[halcyon portal]

Alright,so i sell it?

[narrow wadi]

if u take chad like what do u wanna hit

[narrow wadi]

assuming u already did the skips no

[shell dagger]

Yes get rid of swash buckler

[narrow wadi]

it's bad cos u don't wanna be skipping

[wicked sonnet]

chad for gift card duh

[narrow wadi]

firstly it's negative (piss card) even if it wasn't it would be a ton of +mult with swash

[shell dagger]

With 64x mult before swash, it isn’t doing much

[wicked sonnet]

i know

[narrow wadi]

unless u have a ton of glass cards u rly don't care about chad that much

it's not that good

ur retriggering for chips most of the time

[shell dagger]

They have photo

[wicked sonnet]

yeah that was my thinking

[floral mural]

would you believe me if i said this quija was my plan for violet vessel and crimson heart

[narrow wadi]

this is going before swash which is the main source of mult, retriggering photo probably doesn't do much

[wicked sonnet]

64x but because it's before swash it depends what their base mult is

[floral mural]

i took the 4oak rare for sticker but quija forces the activation so yeah

[wicked sonnet]

which is why i asked what is your base mult

[shell dagger]

Its 64x mult

[floral mural]

it would help a ton

[shell dagger]

Unless swash is sitting at 200 mult then it’s less than a 2x

[wicked sonnet]

yeah

[narrow wadi]

it is much much less than that given it goes before swashburglar, depends on the hands being played and the level they are at

[shell dagger]

And that’s with a level 1 flush

[shell dagger]

My point is swash is not even a 2x

[narrow wadi]

if it's like a pair deck photo chad is doing very little

[quartz ember]

not really true

[floral mural]

and another page complete

[wicked sonnet]

if base mult is 4, photo will add +252 mult

[silver mortar]

That's a easy victory it feels like

[wicked sonnet]

so a couple pair levels and you're adding 252 mult with photo

[narrow wadi]

nice, my last joker for c++ was merry andy which is kinda crazy given it's a decent joker

[queen kindle]

NOOOOOO

[floral mural]

also got seance done so another page

[shell dagger]

Honestly sell Astro and pants

[quartz ember]

yes yes sell

[floral mural]

my only problem joker now is ice cream

[wicked sonnet]

credit card in arcana pack

[shell dagger]

You can afford it unless you have clearance sale

[quartz ember]

go for the faceplant ending

[narrow wadi]

astronomer sells for 4 i think

cos it costs 8

pants sells for probably 3

[shell dagger]

It does

[quartz ember]

and we know there is no discount because bp is 10 bucks

[queen kindle]

looking back now i totally couldve now i feel dumb lol

[narrow wadi]

i got all the disappearing jokers done rly early tbf, they are annoying but they're all common other than bean and bean is rly nice to pickup in ante8 anyway so will happen naturally

[red thistle]

That's why you build up econ.

[silver mortar]

I can't really reliably achieve that even with checkered deck, right?

[wicked sonnet]

definitely can

[narrow wadi]

put baseball card on the right please

[red thistle]

Quite the opposite.

[silver mortar]

why?

[narrow wadi]

you want raised fist to trigger before baseball card

to multiply the mult it gives you

[silver mortar]

Got it

[shell dagger]

Very easily if you stop playing flushes

[silver mortar]

so it's left to right

[novel hound]

devastating

[narrow wadi]

the general rule is put +mult on left and xmult on right

[shell dagger]

Baseball doesn’t trigger, it’s the uncommons that trigger

So fist goes on the left

Parei/bull to the right

[narrow wadi]

this is not true in terms of order

[shell dagger]

It is

[narrow wadi]

it is not when a joker triggers

[shell dagger]

No

[narrow wadi]

it is when baseball card triggers

it goes over the jokers

[wicked sonnet]

pretty sure billy is right here

[red thistle]

No he's under there.

[shell dagger]

Baseball position doesn’t matter

It’s oops position that matters

[floral mural]

with to do list on pair whats stopping me from going square again

[silver mortar]

Soo, what do I do?

Also I swapped out hand

[narrow wadi]

https://www.reddit.com/r/balatro/comments/1m0hfpe/til_that_debuffed_uncommon_jokers_still_work_with/ @shell dagger i just googled using baseball card video and this is the first one that came up

[shell dagger]

I already showed that this is wrong

[narrow wadi]

this video shows that this is right

watch the video lmao

ur so confidently wrong

runner triggers and doesn't give 1.5xmult until it gets to baseball card

[shell dagger]

Runner doesnt give 1.5x mult at all because its not uncommon bro

Look at the balatro calculator

[wicked sonnet]

billy you showed you're incorrect

look at your own video 😭

[acoustic kettle]

Runner ain't even uncommon

[wicked sonnet]

exactly

it goes over trading card and then triggers, and then luch and then triggers, etc.

[narrow wadi]

uh mb rt95 i was the one confidently wrong

i looked at order and uhh

[wicked sonnet]

LOL

[narrow wadi]

idk

this video does nothing for either side

cos of the joker order

[wicked sonnet]

no it shows they were right but oh well

[narrow wadi]

wait no it is on jokers

[jade arch]

What do you think of this joker arrangement? I need to take sixth sense to gold sticker

[narrow wadi]

ye i rewatched

i was definitely wrong

[queen kindle]

nevermind im goated

[willow frost]

holy balls

[narrow wadi]

paintbrush is my favourite voucher

[willow frost]

what an interaction

[narrow wadi]

also my most taken i think

oh overstock is my most taken by 1

[jade arch]

Does this work for a better joker arrangement? I really need to get gold stickers here

[narrow wadi]

it's probably good enough tbh, i don't like eternal photograph cos idt it's a very good joker but with sock i guess it's like usable

[queen kindle]

pray for me chat

[narrow wadi]

i'm not sure how ur managing to use stuntman and get whatever hand u want

[narrow wadi]

surely high card king just wins

[queen kindle]

its lvl 3
hm

[narrow wadi]

u get chips from foil rebate

ehh

idk

it probably wins tho

only needs 50k

[queen kindle]

joever

[narrow wadi]

the red mist has descended

[jade arch]

Should I buy chad?

Instead of family?

Remember it is imperative to get sixth sense to gold sticker

[narrow wadi]

probably i guess, with stuntman u are never playing 4oak

[soft vapor]

Goofy ass win

[floral mural]

you get rid of buskin actually

[jade arch]

really?

[floral mural]

2 photo triggers added rather than 1

family doing nothing on a stuntman build tho yeah

youd ideally wanna use pairs

[narrow wadi]

in a photo build sock is x2 mult which is good

[jade arch]

I got pallette though

[narrow wadi]

u want both retriggers

i do not like photo builds cos i think they're very inconsistent

but this one kinda has all the tools needed

[sullen mica]

what happens if i take eternal mr bones

[jade arch]

can't be eternal

[narrow wadi]

the goat

[sullen mica]

awww

[narrow wadi]

john bones jones

[sullen mica]

banes nond

[narrow wadi]

i love john jones

it was a very late sticker for c++ cos even tho i pick it up loads whenever i pick it up i seem to get violent vessel so it pops

[jade arch]

you lied to me

[narrow wadi]

ok lmao, ur still never drawing 4oak consistently

without like

14 of a card

[floral mural]

btw id say dont play 5oak

[narrow wadi]

u never wanna play 5oak ye

[floral mural]

5oak is usually more trouble than its worth transitioning from 4oak since by the time 5oak is consistent your 4oak is levelled

[narrow wadi]

it is the same scaling as 4oak as well

[floral mural]

you can also level 4oak from the beginning compared to 5oak so even during the 3 of a kind period you can start boosting it

[barren wigeon]

5oak gets overshadowed by f5 and 4oak so there is genuinely 0 point in using it

[narrow wadi]

this is mine

[barren wigeon]

why is chad in b

[narrow wadi]

it's decent, not great

[barren wigeon]

and why is AJ in D

[barren wigeon]

WHAT

how

how is hanging chad possibly not great

[tranquil oyster]

cavendish below constellation is wild

[narrow wadi]

ye idk why i did that, put cavendish above it lol

[barren wigeon]

please enlighten me on how a joker that is quite literally never not viable is not great

[jade arch]

LIARS

ALL OF YOU

LIARS!

[narrow wadi]

a lot of the time it is +30 chips

that's not great

sure it's enabled by a ton of jokers to be great

[barren wigeon]

do you... just play balatro without enhancements?

[narrow wadi]

but that doesn't happen that often

[barren wigeon]

it happens VERY often???

[narrow wadi]

i do, on gold stake i sometimes do not get the money to get enough enhancements to consistently draw them

[acoustic kettle]

Chad is good

More chips

[narrow wadi]

i agree, not great tho

[acoustic kettle]

More value from enhancements

More value from gold seal

[barren wigeon]

so... you have bad econ and are blaming chad?

[narrow wadi]

i'll pick it up if i have space, i'm not too sad selling it

[acoustic kettle]

A lot of synergies with other jokers

[barren wigeon]

chad is quite literally the most versatile joker in the game

gives econ and scoring

and it isnt great

[narrow wadi]

u know that sometimes in gold stake u get bad shops and need to spend money to stay alive, i don't have bad econ but u cannot guarantee that u have money

i like chad, i'm not hating on it- i just don't think it's ever run winning

[unreal iron]

chad is +30 chips at WORST

[willow frost]

isnt chad really good in gold stake

[acoustic kettle]

Well yeah dry chad is just free chips

[barren wigeon]

CHAD IS NEVER RUN WINNING

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKKNG ABOUT

[unreal iron]

chad vampire strat

trust

[narrow wadi]

it's probably better than i put it, maybe a tier, i wouldn't say s

[barren wigeon]

let's go through a list of jokers that chad vastly improves

[narrow wadi]

that works?

that's rly cool

[barren wigeon]

photo

[acoustic kettle]

Chad glass is a better photochad

[narrow wadi]

i didn't know that worked

[barren wigeon]

fibonacci

GLASS CARDS

[unreal iron]

no it doesnt work

[willow frost]

that was a joke

[barren wigeon]

matter fact, all enhancements but gold

gold seals

bloodstone

[willow frost]

gold with golden ticket lol

[barren wigeon]

golden ticket you mean

[narrow wadi]

bro chill out, this is a minor disagreement about how good a single joker is- i think i was a little harsh with putting it at B but it's rly not that deep

[willow frost]

that one

whoopsies

[barren wigeon]

well yes, golden ticket