🕹・game-discussion

[sleek shore]

-handsize and packs increasing in price were all removed and i doubt they will return

[calm furnace]

-handsize will make me quit the game forever

[sleek shore]

I think this is what should happen

[calm furnace]

nerfed handsize will make mercury brain rot even stronger

[sleek shore]

I dont know how people did gold stake back then

-1 discard and handsize is brutal

[frank grove]

yeah

[calm furnace]

it was both discard and handsize

sheesh

that sounds unfun

[sleek shore]

also packs costed more

[calm furnace]

poor red card

[vale wharf]

Is there a "most famous" seed?

[sleek shore]

ALEEB

[vale wharf]

Guessed as much

[frank grove]

or the erractic full 10 spades?

[vale wharf]

Is there a second place?

[sleek shore]

cant think of anything else

[frank grove]

the erractic full 10 spades one? right?

[sleek shore]

ALEEB is easy to remember which is why its famous

and 5 legendaries is fun

[sleek shore]

maybe

[frank grove]

but im guessing most people probably dont have erratic unlocked so maybe not

[calm furnace]

5 legendaries sounds like a challenge

[sleek shore]

ALEEB is a seed you play when you just started the game

[frank grove]

yeah

[sleek shore]

very difficult

99% of people cannot figure out this one problem

[vale shale]

Alright alright. 1 take gold stake run any deck. What deck we thinking bout.

(I lost the black deck run)

[calm furnace]

painted

[sleek shore]

negative deck

your name is so tru

[calm furnace]

i can see perkeo copying hangman a strat but thats about it

[sleek shore]

you get death so you can copy that

and you get hermit at the start of the match so infinite money

[jolly relic]

.

an hour and a half again 💔

[sleek shore]

there is a seed I saw once that actually gives inf money. Basically you use emperor which gives you emperor and hermit

[calm furnace]

well there is chicot

and chicot is goated

[sleek shore]

when you use emperor you get emperor and hermit again

repeat for actually inf money

[calm furnace]

damn that with fortune teller

[frank grove]

it would only take like 30 hours of clicking to get a million dollars

[calm furnace]

wait, if its infinite loop of emperor + hermit

[acoustic kettle]

Bootstraps bull naneinf

[calm furnace]

that means you can naneif if you have bull + boots/fortune teller no?

[sleek shore]

just bootstraps and bull yeah

[frank grove]

if you spend 100s of hours clicking you might get close

[sleek shore]

nah 100s of hours isnt even close

[calm furnace]

balatro clicker edition

[frank grove]

yeah thousands probably

[sleek shore]

I dont think doing it for your entire life would be enough

[calm furnace]

cant use a software to click for you?

[sleek shore]

yeah but I dont think even that would fast enough

[acoustic kettle]

Speed up in game speed with mods

[sleek shore]

lemme use balatro calculator

[acoustic kettle]

Do macro

[frank grove]

you can but even then it would take probably 10s of millions of clicks to even get 'close'

[calm furnace]

is naneinf money even possible?

[frank grove]

probably, but like humanly impossible

[acoustic kettle]

What mod has the most speed up

Handy has like 512x iirc

[opal pine]

do I take take this so that I can 1. break the banana for better banana later, and 2. upgrade my hand space joker more often? or no

[calm furnace]

i mean with space and cartomancer

its not a question

[frank grove]

oops is great

[calm furnace]

the econ you can generate with lucky cards

is too good

[acoustic kettle]

Sell niners

[calm furnace]

nah sell half

[acoustic kettle]

Or carto

[opal pine]

already sold half

[calm furnace]

double oop + space joker is one of the most fun runs ever

[opal pine]

this might just be better than space ngl really good deck fixing potential, could also sell cloud nine instead

[jolly relic]

do i take negative blue joker round 1 plasma shop

[shell dagger]

Yes

[frank grove]

speak of the devil

[sleek shore]

6796796795679567985679568795768978957898759. this much money only gets you e86

[frank grove]

sell cloud

[sleek shore]

my number was rounded down for some reason

[frank grove]

which so incomprehensibly far away from 308 that like money only naninf probably not without x money cards 😭

[shell dagger]

Wdym

[sleek shore]

the number does not even fit on screen and you dont even get close to naneinf

[frank grove]

yeah

[shell dagger]

1 billion dollars doesn’t even score above e20

[calm furnace]

more reasons to hate bootsrap

[shell dagger]

On plasma

[calm furnace]

you could be elon rich and still not naneinf

[sleek shore]

you need E150 money for naneinf

[calm furnace]

thats not on plasma right?

[sleek shore]

no

its still e150 at plasma

[jolly relic]

um i js got negative reserved parking from riff raff

[calm furnace]

riff raff is so goated

[ripe oriole]

Oh my fucking god

[frank grove]

OMG

[sleek shore]

@frank grove

[frank grove]

yeah

thats insnae

[sleek shore]

PLEASE BE 2 CHIKOT

[calm furnace]

watch it be canio

[ripe oriole]

No mega arcana...

Also I already had chicot earlier

[sleek shore]

the chance of soul appearing is .6 right?

[frank grove]

.3

[ripe oriole]

You guys are gonna hate me but I don't think I'm gonna open either

[frank grove]

you HAVE TO

[shell dagger]

0.3% per card in a pack

[calm furnace]

you could get perkeo

and try observatory + baron

[ripe oriole]

Why would I ? Already did ante39 perkeo and on god it's awfully boring

[calm furnace]

dunno if that naneinfs

[frank grove]

for fun

[calm furnace]

but all endless is equally boring 😭

[sleek shore]

rolling for perkeo

what the fuckkk

[shell dagger]

that’s not how percentages are multiplied

[ripe oriole]

Not for me, ante 1 to around 20 is a shit ton of fun for me

[olive totem]

Half joker is overpowered until you get to mid-game. It's only good for starters.

Learnt it on my failure

[ripe oriole]

Ok question :

[shell dagger]

you must convert to decimals first then multiply, otherwise you’re out by a factor of 100

[sleek shore]

what is percentage

[ripe oriole]

Do you think opening a different one has a different outcome ?

[signal frigate]

This is the first time I've seen Mindustry outside of the server

[ripe oriole]

I think it's the same no ?

[shell dagger]

0.3 is a percentage here

[ripe oriole]

Cuz seed

[shell dagger]

yeah they’re the same

chance of 2 souls in a pack is 10*0.003^2*0.997^3

0.0000891924

[sleek shore]

what the shit

[shell dagger]

0.00891924%

[ripe oriole]

Fuck you guys

Got canioed

[sleek shore]

BAHAHAHA

[signal frigate]

It's not as rare as you think but it is pretty rare

I've had random runs with 2 souls

[ripe oriole]

Well I'm at 3 rn

[frank grove]

yeah but two in the same pack with showman

[signal frigate]

Oh okay now that's exceptionally rare

[sleek shore]

both soul gave canio? @ripe oriole

[ripe oriole]

It was not a mega pack

[frank grove]

yeha it was jumbo

[sleek shore]

rip bozo

[opal pine]

what do I sell for this?

fortune teller is at 41 right now

[frank grove]

what is your level at

[sleek shore]

blueprint

[opal pine]

flush house is at lvl 5

and this is my deck

[frank grove]

probably trading?

or space

[signal frigate]

I'd probably kill that Trading card now

[frank grove]

you have blue seal

[loud flicker]

Space is the most consistent

No need for more score

Trading card is still useful

[frank grove]

yeah

[loud flicker]

Though it isn’t too neccesary either so if you want to go for high scores that’s probbaly better

Youd win either way

[late bay]

This was a fun run 😅

[opal pine]

so what'd I sell? fortune teller?

[frank grove]

space

[loud flicker]

Space or trading

Sell Space for consistency, card for high score

[calm furnace]

how much is teller at

[frank grove]

41

or smth around there iirc

[calm furnace]

41 is too good to sell

[loud flicker]

Teller is needed to live reliably

[frank grove]

yeah

[signal frigate]

I'd go for trading, you can get hungmen from Cartomancer

[frank grove]

flush house level 5 is good

[calm furnace]

i mean can sell oops or space neither are doing much at this point

[signal frigate]

That's a winning run

[calm furnace]

but oops can scale the cat

[frank grove]

yeah

[sleek shore]

carried by square joker

[frank grove]

oops scaling cat is pretty worth

[calm furnace]

trading card will make finding lucky cards easier

[signal frigate]

The deck is fleshed out enough

[frank grove]

i think space or trading go

[calm furnace]

i mean anything at this point is a W

[signal frigate]

The lucky cards are plenty

[calm furnace]

find chad for faster cat scaling

[sleek shore]

that cat is really lucky

[signal frigate]

I think he can get away with just getting tarots

[frank grove]

and with 100 in the bank

anything wins there

[signal frigate]

Plus, the money from trading card is at this point irrelevant because Lucky Cards and dice

[calm furnace]

thats not gold stake right?

41+ fortune + cat is plenty

[frank grove]

no white

[signal frigate]

I'm in my Gold Stake mindset rn

[opal pine]

trading card went

[signal frigate]

If you're scoring more than 50k at this point, it should win

So whatever you do rn doesn't matter lmfao

[frank grove]

lucky cat is such a fun joker

[signal frigate]

It's really fuckin strong

[sleek shore]

lucky cat is such a joker

[calm furnace]

cat is so goated

[late bay]

Lmao, hit square joker once by accident, so I did have a little chip advantage 😂

[signal frigate]

Steel and glass jokers I find aren't that appreciated even tho they're actually pretty cool on their own

Glass Joker is pretty much weaker Canio

[calm furnace]

immolate breaking glass doesnt count for glass joker no?

[frank grove]

i think it does ?

[signal frigate]

Any card destruction

[frank grove]

just like destroying them with hanged man

[signal frigate]

So yes, immolate will do that

[frank grove]

oh

[signal frigate]

I stand corrected but I'll also say it should work

[calm furnace]

yeah it should

it makes it weaker than it should be

[frank grove]

yeah thats inconsistant with canio right?

[calm furnace]

no canio works with spectrals

[frank grove]

yeah thats what i mean

[opal pine]

omg

[sleek shore]

ive never unironically used glass joker

[frank grove]

i have

on the glass challenge 😭

[sleek shore]

but steel is good

[calm furnace]

its really strong

[opal pine]

what would I drop

[sleek shore]

I got glass joker on ante one there

[frank grove]

yeah me too

[calm furnace]

today i had a run and had it at 6.5x

[sleek shore]

sell the tarot maker

[frank grove]

either that or space

[calm furnace]

nah double tarot too good for fortune

spaceman should retire

[sleek shore]

space + brainstorm is op\

[opal pine]

aw shit it's incompatible with oops

[frank grove]

tarot maker can get more lucky cards, hanged man, money gold cards

[sleek shore]

with dice you get a level every hand

[frank grove]

its 2 in 4 and hes playing flush houses

[sleek shore]

yeah

[frank grove]

and its at like level 5 or 6 anyway

[opal pine]

flush house is the best scaler with lvls

lvl 8

[sleek shore]

but you copy space

[frank grove]

yeah

but more luckys are more fun

and hes won already

[molten thicket]

a cat build without retriggers is so sad

[calm furnace]

nah not with oops

[civic sierra]

#planted
😔

[sleek shore]

arm needs to be removed

[jolly relic]

1 blueprint on retrigger and 1 on golden ticket for most money right

or is it the same

either way

[sleek shore]

planted????? pvz reference omg

[civic sierra]

arm only sucks like 5% of the time imo

[sleek shore]

arm always sucks

[molten thicket]

ill take it from you for free

[civic sierra]

usually you win in one hand ideally, unless your hand level sucks

then you don't care about the arm

[shell dagger]

it sucks for pair builds a lot

which dont benefit from oneshotting

[sleek shore]

yeah

which is what I play 99% of the time

[molten thicket]

geniunely tweaking after someone makes a slight and unintentional reference to [specific niche interest]

[fringe crest]

good morning guys

i have to do a presentation

im going to cry

[civic sierra]

true, but typically when I play a pair build, hand levels only really contribute chips, and I'm usually reliant on jokers for most of the scoring

I also like to level up a secondary hand whenever I don't get the mercury

[glad sequoia]

Highest I've ever gotten a hand in non endless

[jolly relic]

i died im gonna cry

this is so stupid

i do literally everything right

[sleek shore]

Hi gonna cry

I’m dad

[jolly relic]

and it still just wastes my time

[jolly relic]

yeah you can die to be so honest 🥰

[sleek shore]

I’m planning to die once in my life

[jolly relic]

thats kinda how it works

hope its planned soon !

[desert niche]

rate this run

[jolly relic]

2 entire hours

ridiculous

[sleek shore]

Hi

[jolly relic]

2 hours for nothing

[inland helm]

double steven 🔥

[desert niche]

an even amount of steven

[inland helm]

TRUE

[desert niche]

(thanks invisible joker)

[glad sequoia]

Won/10

[karmic garnet]

How do you guys compensate for bad shops, because I just try to build around what I get but most of the time it ends up just failing in the later ante's

[sleek shore]

Reset the run

[jolly relic]

you have to be a streamer or just be delusional and make yourself think its skill based

[desert niche]

it is skill based tho??

[sleek shore]

There is a skill to it

[desert niche]

balatro university completed 63 runs on gold stake without losing

ofcourse its skill based

[opal pine]

I wonder how far I can go with this run

[karmic garnet]

I mean I like to think having knowledge on how cards and jokers work with each other will take you far

[inland helm]

i usually just grab something that scores semi-decently to tide me over while i do deckfixing to build towards something better

or hold for interest if needed

[sleek shore]

Black deck is the only deck where you can lose just because of shit RNG

[sleek shore]

The most useful thing to know is when to take shitty eternal jokers

[karmic garnet]

Fair point

[jolly relic]

yap

[sleek shore]

It’s sometimes useful to take an ass eternal/rental joker if it means you can survive in the short term

[karmic garnet]

Bold of you to assume I'm that good to even unlock gold stake

[sleek shore]

A lot of new players just ignore eternal/rental unless it’s something broken

[karmic garnet]

I gotta unlock all the decks first then I'll work on the stakes

[desert niche]

The best way to get good at balatro is risk assessement

[jolly relic]

and to be lucky

[desert niche]

consider what you have, what you need, and what amount of money to spend to get that

[inland helm]

yeah

money management is huge

[desert niche]

i usually just focus on money first and surviving

after that i can reroll enough to usually get a good enough jonkler combo to win

also, arcana packs are huge

deck fixing is absolutely insane

[karmic garnet]

I can always get Econ but I'm always missing one of the three ( xmult, Mult, chips)

[desert niche]

mult and chips is all you need for the early game

x mult you can worry about later

and dont forget to pick up stuff that you need to survive

[karmic garnet]

Oh no I'm not worried about early game just the later ante's

[inland helm]

one thing i think ppl overlook sometimes is planets

getting your base mult and chips up is very important imo

[sleek shore]

Yes!

[inland helm]

especially if you have decent deckfixing

[karmic garnet]

That's what I use as compensation or whenever I got money to spare

[sleek shore]

Also stop playing flushes pairs are infinitely better

[desert niche]

finding what hand to focus on is a good idea

[glad sequoia]

I love spamming pairs

[karmic garnet]

Damn you got me

[inland helm]

yeah flushes get you through ante 1 and thats about it

[sleek shore]

That’s what’s good about pairs

Focusing on pairs from the very start works 90% of the time

[frank grove]

loveee spamming pairs

[desert niche]

its really good with telescope

[inland helm]

yeah and it works well with a lot of jokers

[sleek shore]

Telescope and burnt as well

[karmic garnet]

I can't help myself

[sleek shore]

You can also hold many steel/gold/blue seal in hand

[glad sequoia]

Scales %50 faster than high card and can use jokers like duo and seeing double that high card can't. While being pretty much as easy to find as high card. Scales really well for easy a hand it is to make

[sleek shore]

Everyone is like this

You will ditch flushes eventually

[inland helm]

and if you get like a hologram or a cert adding cards isnt really detrimental since youre likely going to draw a pair anyways

[sleek shore]

Also pairs synergies with so many jokers

[inland helm]

yeah

[sleek shore]

Ride the bus, blackboard, burnt. Stuntman etc….

[inland helm]

pretty decent w/ supernova even

[soft vapor]

Flushes are the best until they aren't

[glad sequoia]

Jolly and sly are great starting jokes that you can transition out of. Square man

[sleek shore]

Bus/green/supernova are stupidly strong with pairs

[inland helm]

yup

[glad sequoia]

Can always get burnt joker value with pairs easily

[sleek shore]

Pairs almost never one shot so you can scale those so quickly

[white zodiac]

with these scalers

too

[neat ore]

Joker idea! It re triggers all of ya Jack's but only if ya have hit the road

[white zodiac]

[sleek shore]

F TIER JOKER WOOOOOO

[inland helm]

[glad sequoia]

Would be the worst joker ever

Lol

[neat ore]

HOW

[inland helm]

JUST GET A SOCK

[neat ore]

It's a good idea!!

[frank grove]

it would have to be like pre-common

[neat ore]

It would be common yeah

[sleek shore]

Very

[soft vapor]

What's a joker you thought was bad but when you finally played it it was actually great

[neat ore]

Thank you!

[neat ore]

Red card

[sleek shore]

It would be a good joker if it costed $0. You would get money from selling it

[neat ore]

In this economy??

[frank grove]

canio, red card, reroll guy, bull

[soft vapor]

For me it was troubadour

[sleek shore]

Square for sure

[desert niche]

obelisk and supernova

[soft vapor]

I thought -1 hand was way too much

[sleek shore]

You see +4 chips and you think it’s ass but square is so good

[frank grove]

yeah square is GOAT

[soft vapor]

But with +2 hand size you don't really need extra hands

[glad sequoia]

I underestimated runner for quite a while.

[neat ore]

Another joke idea! Gains plus 10 chips for each mult card scored!

[frank grove]

entirely depends on the hand you're playing

[sleek shore]

I won plasma with just runner once

[desert niche]

i love getting +128 chips for playing only 4 cards the entire run

[soft vapor]

It kind of annoys me how the 4 in the square joker desc. doesn't have a + behind

[glad sequoia]

If you just play 6 straights it's already better than most chip jokers

[sleek shore]

Square also makes it so your throwaway hands actually generate chips

So good

[frank grove]

neither does most scaling cards right?

[soft vapor]

No

[frank grove]

oh

[soft vapor]

Wee joker has one

[frank grove]

weird

[white zodiac]

fist early on, fib during streak runs

[viral ledge]

fuuuuuuck what do i choose

[soft vapor]

Fist is so good man

[neat ore]

I change the idea it re triggers ya Jack's twice

[ember turtle]

synergy is cool ig but there's no joker in the game that RELIES on another joker

[frank grove]

wait it does have the plus

oh you meant he currently thing

[neat ore]

That changes now

[frank grove]

ohhh

[soft vapor]

Oh wait

Oh I'm fucking stupid

[ember turtle]

try making your jokers don't rely on another jokers

[soft vapor]

Oh wait no

[frank grove]

WEIRD

[sleek shore]

Anyways I think the best advice for new gold stake players is:
play pairs
Take shitty eternal/rental jokers if it means you can survive in the short term

[glad sequoia]

Yeah square is the only chip scaling just that doesn't say + for some reason

[glad sequoia]

It's really weird

[opal pine]

depends on how early your are, what your build is, what your hands are etc. it depends on alot that this picture can't provide the information for

[sleek shore]

Losing $3/1 joker slot is better than losing the game

[white zodiac]

on average you’re at a net loss of value as it requires an established build and an adequate amount of value cards to be of worth drawing. it doesn’t work in hand with scaling jokers all too well

[ember turtle]

that's not a bad idea actually, you just have to take balance into account
wether it's vanilla balancing or your mod's balancing

[frank grove]

example

[neat ore]

I think it's pretty neat

[ember turtle]

yea

i have written like

300 joker ideas or something

a lot of them suck but there's some cool ones too

[opal pine]

banana I think

[sleek shore]

Yeah. You might have lost a lot of money but you won. Thats what’s important

[ember turtle]

i will gatekeep them tho, if i get criticized i will die

/j

people are sometimes too mean

[cursive lion]

Banana since +15 mult

[frank grove]

yeah i took the acro in ante 7

[sleek shore]

I tried to find an example screenshot but I realized I simply don’t screenshot many of my wins

[frank grove]

thinking that i would have to find a blackboard or seeing double or something

[ember turtle]

speaking of those two

i just got their gold stickers today in a run

[frank grove]

nice!

[ember turtle]

yeah it was a pretty fun run

had 30 dollars

then pivoted to

rental vagabond and 4/16 drivere license

[sleek shore]

The c++ balatro background is so good why isn’t it the default

[ember turtle]

then took a charm tag with 5 double tags i had and sold my vagabond

[ember turtle]

there's a c++ background?

[glad sequoia]

I didn't even notice it changes lol

[fringe crest]

i just stuttered so bad on my presentation

[ember turtle]

huhhh

wow

[glad sequoia]

My C++ profile is on my switch 2 but I never play that version anymore. Mobile for life now

[white zodiac]

only for those who worked for it

[frank grove]

holy debt

[frank grove]

real

its a weird change

[glad sequoia]

Crippling debt. Just like IRL

[frank grove]

like i didnt notice for a bit and then i noticed and was like what

[native fog]

Do I have enough jacks?

[inland helm]

nah

😏

[native fog]

Most r +4 mult to

I hit 5 of a kind

[white zodiac]

ok

[inland helm]

make MORE jacks

[sleek shore]

The only time hit the road would be good

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[ember turtle]

bloodstone is like

[fringe crest]

best card rank?

[sleek shore]

Bloodstone is like the best joker

[serene forge]

2 or 9

[ember turtle]

i'd say jacks and i would get hated

[fringe crest]

erm why 9?

[sleek shore]

I’m being attacked for telling the truth

[serene forge]

cloud 9

[frank grove]

cloud nine lover

[ember turtle]

cloud 9 is a funny economic joker

[ocean yoke]

looks inside

[fringe crest]

i dont like cloud 9

[sleek shore]

How

[fringe crest]

its good

[ember turtle]

plant will consume you

[fringe crest]

but

[frank grove]

i love cloud nine its nice

[ocean yoke]

[fringe crest]

i dont like forcing it

[serene forge]

plant doesn't counter photochad

[ocean yoke]

ok bro

[ember turtle]

huh

[sleek shore]

Yeah just use justice

It’s not hard

[frank grove]

yeah

[serene forge]

yo look a bus

[sleek shore]

You have 3 shops to get one justice

[ocean yoke]

now i need oops

please rng gods

[ember turtle]

that means plant does counter photochad otherwise you wouldn't have a backup plan

[ocean yoke]

i need this

[frank grove]

are we always taking eternal rental bus on gold guys

[serene forge]

why didn't you pick bus,,,,,

[frank grove]

i am

[ember turtle]

i am not

i fucking hate the bus

[serene forge]

well no but this guy is here with 20 dollars so the rental is less problematic

[fringe crest]

i pushed a cloud nine to this

[ember turtle]

i hope the bus dies

[fringe crest]

technically it was 5 more but i didnt screenshot it

[frank grove]

i guess it depends on how early in a run

[sleek shore]

Typical photochad player

[ember turtle]

very gay lesbian hornet why must you white stake super react me..

[serene forge]

typical photochad and bloodstone player

[ember turtle]

i haven't played photochad in months

[ocean yoke]

since good luck must mean smt horrible will happen soon

[ember turtle]

i fucking hate bloodstones..

[sleek shore]

Bus is the best scaling mult joker imo

[fringe crest]

why are we saying bad words here

[ember turtle]

don't apply stereotypes onto me

[ocean yoke]

83k ante 2

[serene forge]

you're using bloodstone that's a given

[fringe crest]

atleast censor bl**dstone

[frank grove]

its up there with supernova, or red card for sure

you can get it to like 60 - 70 if you get it early enough

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[viral ledge]

what happens when i put dagger all the way to the right? ive just been feeding my dagger low value jokers all game

[serene forge]

nothing

[frank grove]

it just chills out

[ember turtle]

idk what my favourite jokers are actually

[serene forge]

you do that if you don't want to kill anything

[ember turtle]

uh say another joker i'll give my opinion about it ig

i just don't like bus

[viral ledge]

cuz it has +30 mult rn

[serene forge]

square joker

[ocean yoke]

I like green joker

[frank grove]

this is the true test

[ember turtle]

goated with the sauce, got it to 350 the other day

[frank grove]

based

[ember turtle]

used it today it's nice but i love discarding

[viral ledge]

raised fist

[ember turtle]

it's good for like 3 first antes

[ember turtle]

there are better +mult

[fringe crest]

I JUST GOT THE BALATRO WORDLE IN TWO

[ember turtle]

very very good at ante 1 and 2

[inland helm]

space man

[fringe crest]

spoilers for todays answer

[sleek shore]

No spoiler for this one

[fringe crest]

see why we dont use bl**dstone now?

[frank grove]

honesly best ante 1 blind with bloodstone maybe?

[inland helm]

||is it just me or have these been just in order for the last like 4 days ||

[sleek shore]

? The head in ante one is literally best case senario

[fringe crest]

||yeah its been between those 5||

[ember turtle]

used it today and it was nice actually tho i lost that run..
i think he's cool but too rng

[fringe crest]

your econ is doomed

[sleek shore]

Worth it

[ocean yoke]

should i take it

[fringe crest]

you can

i mean

[ember turtle]

i would say no

but i never have

and you have a free slot

go for it

[fringe crest]

take it sell it?

[frank grove]

i be selling showman for money 99 times out of a 100 (i dont really play endless that often)

[storm dome]

PB232ITI neg perkeo ante 2

[fringe crest]

did you find it seeded?

[ocean yoke]

i mean bloodstone is uncommon and oops is also uncommon so it takes up space in the uncommon slots

[ember turtle]

you can get another chad or photo

that's good

[storm dome]

nah was playing random seeds

[ocean yoke]

that is a good point

since its common

[fringe crest]

tf thats two people who have found leg nat negs

[ocean yoke]

ill take it

[inland helm]

you could get another oops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[frank grove]

😭

[storm dome]

getting those gold stickers 😔

[ember turtle]

if you ended up finding a better joker than an ungaraunteed copy of photochad then just sell it

[brazen island]

Hit the road is goated and underrated and I will not let anyone, doc or otherwise, tell me anything else

[viral ledge]

im rich baybee

[ember turtle]

hell yeah

[sleek shore]

Sticker hunting is fun

[ocean yoke]

yea ofc

[frank grove]

thoughts on rocket chat?

[ocean yoke]

like sock

[ember turtle]

speak your truth

[ocean yoke]

yes

[storm dome]

fun for a masochist

[ember turtle]

it's amazing econ the earlier you take it

[viral ledge]

i luv temperance into egg

[ember turtle]

not much to say

[opal pine]

nice run

[frank grove]

how about as eternal

[ember turtle]

not different

[brazen island]

I am a splash and hit the road truther

[frank grove]

based i think so too

[brazen island]

Splash is better designed for sure tho

[ember turtle]

splash is not bad

[gilded falcon]

At a bit of an impasse. If I take the DNA I get more hand size but also lose the showman and a potential additional blueprint/brainstorm. Advice?

[brazen island]

Splash is actually such peak game design

[ember turtle]

i wish there were more synergies with it

[frank grove]

splash and flower pot is so nice

[ocean yoke]

flower pot?

[ember turtle]

yeah it really is

[brazen island]

Even something as goated and amazing as splash can’t redeem flower pot

[ocean yoke]

ive never done a flower pot run

[ember turtle]

i have failed most of my flower pot runs

[brazen island]

It’s not very good

[frank grove]

ive done like dozens and dozens of flower pot runs

[sleek shore]

It’s fun

[brazen island]

GO STUDY 🫡

[ocean yoke]

ok i fumbled

ggs

[sleek shore]

Flowerpot is a joker

[frank cape]

take what

[ocean yoke]

top 1 fumble oat

i didnt think

[brazen island]

Probably supernova if you’ve pairmaxxed

Oh ante 2

Definitely supernova

[frank grove]

yeah

[inland helm]

hologram and supernova? oh yeah we pairmaxxing today

[opal pine]

with checkered deck do I go for ceres, eris, neptune or something else?

[rancid niche]

Hologram and any scaling flat mult? yeah we're pairmaxxing

[viral ledge]

what do i do...

[frank grove]

probably die

[inland helm]

what hands have you played already

[viral ledge]

two pairs

[civic sierra]

only white stake would allow this bs

[sleek shore]

Win

[rancid niche]

Multiple two pairs or Two consecutive pairs?

[sleek shore]

What else are you supposed to do?

[viral ledge]

multiple two pairs

[inland helm]

ouggh

[opal pine]

0 ante

[inland helm]

okay uhh

[brazen island]

Mercury

[sleek shore]

White stake try not to lose challenge

[inland helm]

check what cards you have the most of left in your deck and use your discard to try to find 2 pair

[rancid niche]

Oh try to find a two pair with your last discard. Check cards remaining in your deck and see what you're more likely to draw

[sleek shore]

White stake funnies. 2.8M score jokerless

[inland helm]

if you dont find it then play all of your lowest cards and move the knife before card sharp (just realized this wouldnt matter since youve only played 2p)

[rancid niche]

Flushing it on jokerless I see

[ember turtle]

jokerless flush five only

[viral ledge]

too late

[rancid niche]

YEAH BTW THE DAGGER SHOULD GO BEFORE CARD SHARP IN THIS CASE

[civic sierra]

I got to 10 digits with a flush five build once on jokerless

[rancid niche]

In all cases

[ember turtle]

yeah just move it

before

[sleek shore]

I couldn’t deck fix for flush five

[ember turtle]

doing

the thing

you know

[rancid niche]

Lost?

[ember turtle]

killing jokers

[viral ledge]

the placment of jokers matters?

[sleek shore]

Did you use red seal glass?

[rancid niche]

Yes

[viral ledge]

yeah

[civic sierra]

ofc

[rancid niche]

They trigger from right to left

[viral ledge]

ahhhhhh

[inland helm]

yeah, you want your additive mult to come before your x mult to get the most value out of it

[civic sierra]

I had like 20 purple seals in the deck

[rancid niche]

It's okay GGs and better luck next time

[ember turtle]

+mult effects gets multiplied when applied before Xmult effects

[sleek shore]

I didn’t get red seals otherwise my run would have been so good. I had polychrome glass

[brazen island]

Splash may be my favorite joker

[rancid niche]

Mine too

[sleek shore]

Splash more like uhh mid mid mid

[rancid niche]

Splash is so good

[brazen island]

Thinking about it and it’s so well designed and so fun and so good

[rancid niche]

One of the best utility jokers

[brazen island]

It encapsulates balatros design philosophy so perfectly

[rancid niche]

More chips, more mult, more lucky cards played

[opal pine]

do I take the ankh

[brazen island]

I would probably take familiar for potential gold cards

[rancid niche]

Or a red seal depending on what you want the build to be

[brazen island]

Or incantation

[inland helm]

if you need the scoring then yes, if not then id take the red seal imo

[rancid niche]

Red seal queen seems fun. Could go Idol mode or baron mode

[distant vault]

Fuck green joker

[inland helm]

[brazen island]

The trio is pretty hard to set up for, red seal is gonna be pretty delayed in providing any kind of value unless you can quickly find a devil in the shop

[native fog]

What’s that

[civic sierra]

chat do we believe

[inland helm]

YES

[distant vault]

Fuck green deck fuck green joker

[sleek shore]

Gains 0.5x mult for every discarded joker

[inland helm]

you mean jack

[distant vault]

How do I discard jokers

[inland helm]

you

[civic sierra]

his name is jack you infidel

[native fog]

Discarded joker?

[inland helm]

chat egg this guy

[rancid niche]

Yeah more wins for me

[sleek shore]

My head if fired

Fried

Fuck I can’t spell

[rancid niche]

Green deck and green joker combo is nice

[distant vault]

Green joker sucks bro

[sleek shore]

[rancid niche]

It's a very powerful joker

[sleek shore]

Pin of shame for this one

[civic sierra]

CHAT

[inland helm]

any joker can be strong if used right

[brazen island]

Green joker wins runs but yeah it’s kind of boring since you don’t get to play as much of the game

[distant vault]

Its enough to win. I wouldn't say its very powerful

[sleek shore]

Green joker is objectively strong

[brazen island]

It is very powerful. Any scaling +mult is powerful

[inland helm]

well yeah but im just saying in general

[rancid niche]

The goal of the game is to win tho don't you think?

[sleek shore]

Except dagger everything else is good

[rancid niche]

It's powerful enough to win

[inland helm]

the goal is to have fun!

[distant vault]

Yes, but there are more powerful scaling mult

[native fog]

I had the joker I forgot the name but if the first hand of a round had only one card (I used my mult jack) it would make a copy and add it to the deck

[rancid niche]

My very first gold stake win was with green and blue joker combo

[brazen island]

Green joker is often the load-bearing joker for a run, the one thing that can’t really be gotten rid of or replaced

[rancid niche]

Of course

[inland helm]

[rancid niche]

What's your favorite and how is it better than green joker?

[distant vault]

Green joker discourages looking for blue seals, purple seals, gold cards. It holds you back a lot

[distant vault]

Bus is better

[brazen island]

Yeah but not many. There’s supernova, bus, pants, dagger, red card

[rancid niche]

Bus is also good

But I wouldn't say better

[distant vault]

Pants, supernova

[rancid niche]

Pants is better yes

[distant vault]

Why not

[native fog]

[distant vault]

Red card

[civic sierra]

the 5 eternal green jokers gambit

[inland helm]

bus scales at the same speed as green no?

[brazen island]

Red card is absolutely the best scaling +mult

[rancid niche]

But that's the reason it's uncommon unlike green joker

[frank grove]

if you never use discards then yes but if you use discards no

[rancid niche]

I have to agree it's the best flat mult scaler

[distant vault]

Bus does not punish for using an important part of the game

[ember turtle]

what would a kebab joker do

[rancid niche]

But even with grimbo you can dig for blue seals

[brazen island]

I agree that bus is better than red card. You get more opportunities to draw cards to hold in hand or play gold seals or other value generators

[distant vault]

Face cards are not very important if you just want to win

[brazen island]

Less easily

[ember turtle]

red card tastes better than bus

[rancid niche]

Yeah

[distant vault]

This is a lie early on

[rancid niche]

But I wouldn't go so far as to say fuck grimbo

[distant vault]

I would. I hate him

[civic sierra]

showman time

[inland helm]

polychrome red card,,,, 😋

[molten thicket]

be good in mouf

[ember turtle]

yummy!

[rancid niche]

Fight me

[uncut matrix]

you csn dig with grimbo just fine by using hands as discards

just fine

[rancid niche]

Grimbo > supernova

[tawdry burrow]

ancient joker proccing diamonds on checkered?

[distant vault]

Hell no

[frank grove]

grimbo just discourages discarding if you have any other mult if you know you can draw a blue seal then draw the blue seal it only uses most of the time -2 mult

[inland helm]

the disrespect is crazy 🥀 let grimbo live bruh

[molten thicket]

i dont like grimbo not bcs its bad but bcs its so boring

[rancid niche]

Can't obelisk with supernova

[civic sierra]

no sell

[distant vault]

I want to kill him with dagger

[fringe crest]

wym

you can

[molten thicket]

ancient doesnt pull from spades/hearts, it pulls from spades/hearts/clubs/diamonds regardless of your deck

[rancid niche]

Yeah and lose your mult because you start playing hands that you played once or twice

[civic sierra]

my tribute has been rewarded

[tawdry burrow]

so I was just lucky before it procced

[civic sierra]

nvm LMAO

[tawdry burrow]

weird because castle does do from deck

[inland helm]

LMAAOOO

FUCKED UP

[tawdry burrow]

either that or I was astronomically lucky

[molten thicket]

castle does ppull from deck

[rancid niche]

I feel as useful as yorick here

[civic sierra]

do I forsake my burglarous ways?

[distant vault]

New players think green joker sucks. Good players think green joker is good. Great players know green joker sucks.

[molten thicket]

thats why its pretty good on checkered

[inland helm]

NEVER

[tawdry burrow]

I barely ever get it

[rancid niche]

Let's settle this 1v1

[civic sierra]

game is making fun of me

fuck it let's unburgle

[inland helm]

chat what is this guy babbling about

[rancid niche]

Mail-in-rebate next

[distant vault]

[rancid niche]

I think they'll also talk about how bad blue joker is

[distant vault]

Green is literally in my list tho

[uncut slate]

green joker is as good as all the other jokers

[brazen island]

Ok I’m back are we still talking about scaling +mult

[rancid niche]

Nice list

[distant vault]

Thanks

[molten thicket]

green joker sucks for enjoying the game

[distant vault]

Green joker sucks for value

[inland helm]

thats a LOT of scalers

[distant vault]

Welcome to gold stake

[brazen island]

Yeah I agree. It’s also one of the worse scaling +mult jokers. Still super strong tho

[molten pier]

Interrupted my game bruh

[frank grove]

rare to see no econs on peoples list

[rancid niche]

LOL I was going for highscore runs lately and you hate to see it...

[inland helm]

photochad is top of my list 100% i dont even need to check

[rancid niche]

ChotoPhad

[distant vault]

Pairs at 9k.

[rancid niche]

Same kek

[brazen island]

“Lately” bro has been doing high score runs for MONTHS 😭

[molten thicket]

thats a really low best hand

[rancid niche]

Nah lmao I was doing them only the last week

[distant vault]

I don't go past ante 8.

Very much

[frank grove]

yeah mine is only at like 8.3k pairs or something i rarely play endless too

[distant vault]

Endless sucks

[molten thicket]

i love endless

[frank grove]

endless can be fun but with eternals its just not the most fun

[rancid niche]

my win streak is so low

[distant vault]

We can tell

[patent prairie]

i like photochad

[brazen island]

TIL ankh is only 4x more likely to appear in a run than the soul

[distant vault]

When you think green joker is good

Mine too

[karmic garnet]

I think there is something wrong with me

[brazen island]

There’s something very right with you

[frank grove]

lovee paradolia and midas

[karmic garnet]

Died btw

[rancid niche]

No because I go for highscore runs on plasma white stake more often

[karmic garnet]

It's My fault tho

[distant vault]

This is my only gold stake profile

[karmic garnet]

It was short lived but pretty cool

[rancid niche]

No reaction to this? 😢

[inland helm]

THIS IS FUCKING AWESOME

[distant vault]

I don't react to green enthusiasts

[inland helm]

11k moners,, ,, ,woahh

[inland helm]

this guy is a certified hater

[karmic garnet]

If only I could do this with steel

[distant vault]

Get that shit outta my face

[rancid niche]

I wasn't talking to green haters

[distant vault]

Dont worry we don't care

[inland helm]

i hope you have golden ticket

[rancid niche]

Stonks

[frank grove]

that would be such a sick spectral card maybe

[rancid niche]

You do tho

[distant vault]

Yeah I do

And

[karmic garnet]

Hell yeah

[distant vault]

[frank grove]

like turn 5 cards into steel at random

[karmic garnet]

I also really need to start paying attention to boss blinds

[plucky shuttle]

round 2 there was a baron in my buffoon pack. WTF

[frank grove]

funky lookin baron

[rancid niche]

Wanna play multiplayer sometimes? if you're on PC

[inland helm]

it says round 3 bozo

[distant vault]

I'm on mobile

[rancid niche]

Aw sad

[karmic garnet]

Guys how do I not be ass at Balatro, it seems so simple but there's so many levels to this game it's kinda crazy

[civic sierra]

"why have you forsaken me father"

[rancid niche]

Play pairs

Literally

[karmic garnet]

Even in the early ante's

[frank grove]

yeah

pairs are just the goat

[karmic garnet]

What if I explode and die

[rancid niche]

Well it's not as simple as that. Watch balatro university

Dr. Spectered

[inland helm]

yeah i learned by watching

[karmic garnet]

I usually watch the guy always says "we're back with more gold stake Balatro"

[rancid niche]

Roffle

[inland helm]

just seeing how good players navigate the game and play around shops and whatnot helped me drastically

[inland helm]

my goat

[frank grove]

roffle is good but he doesnt really do educational as well or even like at all compared to spec.

[rancid niche]

His content is more for entertainment and less for teaching the game

[inland helm]

true

[rancid niche]

But he does answer your questions about the game if you watch his livestreams

He's a very nice fella

[frank grove]

but if you listen to his sarcasm to his chat then you can kinda learn his mindset

[inland helm]

i love how mean he is to his chat its really funny

[rancid niche]

It's all fun and jokes tho

[inland helm]

yeah ik lol

[rancid niche]

You haven't seen how trolling his chat can be

I personally troll him a lot

[inland helm]

awesome

[rancid niche]

I was almost banned once lmao

[frank grove]

😭

[molten thicket]

i cant tell if his chat is sarcastic or asking genuinely

[inland helm]

i think its a bit of both

[rancid niche]

depends on the chatter

Most

[rancid niche]

Shit I sent that by accident

[inland helm]

most 🔥

[frank cape]

guys

any tips for jokerless?

[rancid niche]

Most of the chatters that watch him all the time are trolls, new chatters are genuinely bad at chatting because they try to backseat and don't read pinned messages

[rancid niche]

Blue seals are your allies

Also one more tip: Don't take tips from me because I haven't beaten jokerless

[frank grove]

blue seals are great, find a good enhanced card, hope

[rancid niche]

what's your most used spectral?

[frank grove]

ghost deck enjoyer

whats your most bought voucher

[rancid niche]

Nobody uses ouiga

[rancid niche]

Oooo boy I still think it's telescope

[frank grove]

the -1 hand size is an annoying downside

[rancid niche]

No it doesn't do that

That's a different voucher

[rancid niche]

Oh

[frank grove]

yeah

[rancid niche]

Yeah I thought you were talking about telescope my bad

[frank grove]

also i play pairs mainly so i dont care about 4/5oak or flush five usually

[rancid niche]

It's the worst

[frank grove]

well

its not as bad as the ace one now

[rancid niche]

Why?

[olive basin]

New joker?!

[frank grove]

delete one for 2 random aces, meh

[safe moat]

Yeah fam

[olive basin]

It looks cools

[inland helm]

square joker 2 just dropped?!

[safe moat]

Yeah I put it in acid

[rancid niche]

It's better than ouija imo

[frank grove]

ouija on painted is pretty good imo

[rancid niche]

Well I guess it's situational just like any other card in this game

[olive basin]

I have used Ouija once in my 276 hours

[frank grove]

yeah

[rancid niche]

I am yet to use it

[safe moat]

Oujia is good though

[olive basin]

I honestly think it not worth it 999.99% of the time

[frank grove]

ive used it on painted, if i have a troub but thats basically it

the 1/13 chance it hits sevens is really not worth it though

[jade arch]

Wdyt of my joker arrangement? Sadly I got an early sock and buskin

[olive basin]

-1 hand size is better for ecto

[frank grove]

oh yeah

[olive basin]

or merry andy

[frank grove]

easily

[olive basin]

I forgot is it hand size

[rancid niche]

I love merry andy

[frank grove]

ehhh i almost never pickup merry unelss i have like 90 cards in my deck

[rancid niche]

More discards are very powerful at times

[jade arch]

Though, I need to ask if this is a good one

and what to do with it from now on

[olive basin]

There is no down size to merry andy except joker slot

[frank grove]

and the hand size

but like most of the time it doesnt matter

[olive basin]

I mean in perspective -1 hand = 15 cards

[frank grove]

yeah i just usually dont pick andy up

[jade arch]

okay, I need help. Is this enough to beat the ante?

[frank grove]

probably

[olive basin]

What is your high score from ante 7?

[sleek shore]

Glass joker isn’t real

[olive basin]

It not real

The same as stone joker

And cat shows up on ante 7

[jade arch]

I lost

You know what's not real? Gold sticker banana

[olive basin]

Real

But

[jade arch]

I got 12 million

the humble verdant leaf

[sleek shore]

Unexists right before fighting the boss

Gotta love banana

[olive basin]

I know that feeling of having 4 eternal jokers 💀

[frail oriole]

sell me on obelisk

[olive basin]

and not being able to reroll

[olive basin]

You can’t avoid it forever

[sleek shore]

🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 do you not know what spoilers are??🤬

[floral mural]

so theres a needle up ahead i definitely wouldve died to and thanks luchador

[quartz ember]

you will sell if you sell

[frail oriole]

they're the ones on the back of some cars

[frail oriole]

luchador my beloved

[fringe crest]

obelisk is the worst joker

[frank cape]

nah

obelisk good if u know how to use it

[fringe crest]

y546

[lunar zealot]

obelisk scales faster xmult per ante (x2.4) than yorick (~x1.3) and madness (x1)

[fringe crest]

aevswbkhd

[sleek shore]

Obelisk scales hahahahah funny joke

[lunar zealot]

the only reason obelisk is undervalued is because people don't know how to effectively use it

[inland helm]

i genuinely have no idea what joker i would consider to be the worst

[lunar zealot]

Probably showman

[inland helm]

because every joker has at least a decent use

[inland helm]

hard disagree

[lunar zealot]

seance and idol and throwback bloodstone baron are pretty bad but can at least have some use cases in their niche

[sleek shore]

Obelisk is the worst fuck obelisk

[lunar zealot]

showman is at worst actively detrimental to a run rather than simply doing nothing

[frank cape]

seance kinda suck tho

[lunar zealot]

obelisk scales faster xmult per ante (x2.4) than yorick (~x1.3) and madness (x1)

[inland helm]

ok wait are we talking ante 8 only

[quartz ember]

sure if we are talking about usability not just in ante 8

[sleek shore]

Obelisk doesn’t scale

[lunar zealot]

Yes ofc