🕹・game-discussion

[signal frigate]

Bite the bullet and prove why skipping sucks

[tiny canyon]

Skip again? (I wont even be able to afford the voucher)

[fallow briar]

no that one is useless

[fallow briar]

dont even have money

[signal frigate]

Actually better than rare tag btw

[fallow briar]

not in first ante it isnt

[signal frigate]

Rare tag is still shit

[tiny canyon]

Alright, how do I win without any jokers? Any tips? (Im trying to let you all do everything for me)

[signal frigate]

You're skipping one entire shop and hand money for something that's probably not gonna help

[obsidian patrol]

discoard for hearts flush

[fallow briar]

discard all until royal flush obviously

[signal frigate]

2 good flushes always wins, 3 cards with ranks higher than 7

[fallow briar]

but id go for heart flush like actually, you have 4

[opal pine]

but srsly, I have no clue what to take here, swashbuckler could be good short term aand long term since it's a consistent +3 mult every round with egg, though at the cost of an extra joker slot, the arrowhead could be good since it's foil and I might be able to build into it, and then there's the buffoon pack with infinite potential

[tiny canyon]

Full house pivot? (discarded for hearts)

[fallow briar]

yeah

[signal frigate]

If your first boss was Spades, I think that arrowhead could unironically help

It's still red stake

You can win

[tiny canyon]

(Base flush score and base straight score desperately need to be swapped...)

[obsidian patrol]

Why did you discard your king

[tiny canyon]

I got lucky

[fallow briar]

thats actually real

[tiny canyon]

Uhhh accident?

[signal frigate]

Straight can be better than flushes though

[obsidian patrol]

it is intentionally like that

[signal frigate]

Straights are already pretty fucking strong

[opal pine]

straight has better scaling so yeah

[tiny canyon]

You have to get a rank 8 or higher straight to one shot blind one. Meanwhile there are hundreds of flush combos that win

[signal frigate]

The planet scaling is downright hilarious

[tiny canyon]

Oh yeah,
Neft saturn chips.
Buff earth chips

[signal frigate]

But.... Straights does oneshot a blind though

[obsidian patrol]

that is intentional

[fallow briar]

potato pohtatoh (what the hell is a planet card???)

[vale wharf]

How fast am I finishing DSW? (45ish days of playing)

[fallow briar]

yah 🤠

[tiny canyon]

Only if its a super high straight

[obsidian patrol]

flushes are easy to make and easy to one shot the first blind

[signal frigate]

You are not gonna win alot of runs if you neglect your base levels

[signal frigate]

Which is not that hard to get, just learn to count

[somber geode]

what did you get

[tiny canyon]

Got invis, now what?

[fallow briar]

brother by clash of clans base level is high enough

[obsidian patrol]

Nothing

[signal frigate]

Great, you got a dead joker, now try and get something good with it

[tiny canyon]

Swash or Buffoon, those are the only two actual choices

[signal frigate]

Totally blueprint next ante right?

[somber geode]

take swash/open booster pack after you grab invis

idk

[tiny canyon]

Unless you want me to GAMBLE FOR SOUL?

[fallow briar]

reroll (negative blurprint is waiting for you 😉 ) ||no but fr i have to sleep now gl on run keep me in mind if you get lucky||

[tiny canyon]

alr, gl

[signal frigate]

Blueprint costs 10

He won't be able to buy it

[fallow briar]

thats the joke

and isnt it more if its negative

[signal frigate]

It'd be hilarious if it did appear

[tiny canyon]

ARE WE THINKING?

[signal frigate]

Editions increased the price yes

[fallow briar]

WHAT IS THOUGHT?

[signal frigate]

This run is genuinely trolling

[tiny canyon]

Hanging chad will be inevitable

[fallow briar]

(id skip or tahe photo)

[vale wharf]

Potatochad

[tiny canyon]

WHAT DO I DO GUYS?

[signal frigate]

All runs lead to photochad

Go big on photo

[somber geode]

photo

[signal frigate]

And then die to plant later

[tiny canyon]

UHHH

Guys

Well

[signal frigate]

You have swash, you're fine

[somber geode]

heart flush

[fallow briar]

i still havent taken my candy, ill wake up to this beaute in the morning, gn chat(d)

[signal frigate]

Just play a hearts flush

[opal pine]

oh what the fuck

[tiny canyon]

Are you ALL going to ignore the 4oak?

[fallow briar]

id use full house

[somber geode]

yes

[vale wharf]

When doing photochad, which hand type should one prioritize?

[signal frigate]

Oh hey, a good joker

My favorite

[tiny canyon]

Guys I WILL listen to you
Do I REALLY ignore the 4oak?

[somber geode]

Fred

[signal frigate]

I've won like 5 gold stake decks with that thing

[opal pine]

what do I drop

[fallow briar]

before i sleep, do you guys like the showman

[signal frigate]

No, that oneshots

[tiny canyon]

You dont have to drop anything

[somber geode]

does it really matter

[tiny canyon]

THANK YOU

[signal frigate]

In white stake endless, sure

It's terrible though

[tiny canyon]

Guess not, with the mult and all

[somber geode]

hearts flush 4oak both one shot

[opal pine]

I'm not playing black deck so I only have 5 joker slots

[tiny canyon]

Choices choices: What do I do now?

[signal frigate]

You don't wanna bloat your shop with duplicates

[tiny canyon]

I meant you can skip, if you want

[somber geode]

2 pair probably would aswell

[signal frigate]

Play the fucking game and stop screenshotting

[fallow briar]

obviously your mind isnt set in yhprum's law

[tiny canyon]

Its a bit 🙃

[signal frigate]

You have a wincon, work on it

[fallow briar]

you get a second blueprint from showman :]

[fallow briar]

swash will carry ante 2-3

[signal frigate]

You chase the highs, I get it, me too but I'm past those temptations

[fallow briar]

i chase high

[signal frigate]

I'd save scum that invis btw

[fallow briar]

im in california bro weed is legal whatdya expect

[signal frigate]

I like gold stake wins more than brainless nanlets

[opal pine]

how do you even save scum on pc?

[tiny canyon]

Alright then,

lemme try for photo

[fallow briar]

ok gn chat have fun

[tiny canyon]

alt + 4f

[tiny canyon]

Keep gambling

[fallow briar]

4f? i dont have that on my keyboard

[signal frigate]

An example is if you sell an invis and it doesn't hit the joker you want, don't do anything, go to menu and continue the run, the invis should be back like you never sold it

[tiny canyon]

YEah! The famous tla 4f

[calm epoch]

pain

[tiny canyon]

I BETTER NOT WIN THIS RUN THIS IS STUPID

[fallow briar]

omg its that one pack thats the same dopamine inducing blue as a blurprint... GAMBLE!!

[opal pine]

that worjks? wow

[signal frigate]

Maybe red seal in that spectral?

[fallow briar]

just sell your run, for the extra money

[signal frigate]

Or honestly, purple is good too

[tiny canyon]

Nope

[signal frigate]

I'd still take that shoot the moon

[fallow briar]

wraith (its a blueprint)

[tiny canyon]

The best play is obv luigi and to hope for faces :D

[signal frigate]

Sigil I guess

[tiny canyon]

Should I wraith?

:D

[signal frigate]

Sure, why not

[fallow briar]

didnt you start this run for the rare tag start anyways?

wraith!!

[signal frigate]

That might kill you

Cuz you're not gonna be able to buy anything for one entire ante

[tiny canyon]

Thats the point this is a stupid run in which I skip for rare ante 1 😭

Welp

[signal frigate]

You know what? Fair

[fallow briar]

dair

[tiny canyon]

Guess that means I need chad even more

[signal frigate]

I'm pissed it's surprisingly going farther

[tiny canyon]

Me too

[stable jolt]

I think I am officially professional at riding the bus

[signal frigate]

I would've bought that Death

[opal pine]

do I sell egg, arrowhead with foil or hallu for shoot to the moon?

[signal frigate]

How big's the egg?

[tiny canyon]

Yeah, it wouldve been good. But nobody said to

anyway

[signal frigate]

I suggested it but I guess I never said it

[opal pine]

8

[fallow briar]

its not stupid though, just optimistic :} (im coping, and now this dumb game is imposing on my sleep, im actually going rn and shutting up, if you see another msg from me today please kick me out of this server)

[tiny canyon]

Go to bed

[signal frigate]

Wait, how long have you been on that ante?

[opal pine]

I've been waiting... and lurking for a bit

[tiny canyon]

Continue without shopping?

[signal frigate]

It's gold stake, it's 100% stupid

[signal frigate]

Think, what's your win con here?

[opal pine]

high

[signal frigate]

What rank do you want for this wincon to matter?

[tiny canyon]

Guess I just move on

[tardy solar]

Canio and trading card ♥️

[signal frigate]

How do you shop? You have no money

[tiny canyon]

Taorrot

[opal pine]

wait a second what does wincon mean again, I might be misunderstanidng what it means

[signal frigate]

The joker you'll be consistently building towards

Rn, it looks like it's either spades or Queens

So what do you think you should do?

[tiny canyon]

Ill just continue then

[opal pine]

sell the arrowhead

[signal frigate]

Do you need to? That's a foil

I'd say just sell the egg

[opal pine]

hmmm, fair I suppose

[signal frigate]

Then build around queens, dodge the plant and then level up your base hands

[tiny canyon]

Next move?

[signal frigate]

Idk, tarots

That voucher could actually be taken

[signal frigate]

Chad is common enough

[opal pine]

plant?

[tiny canyon]

too late

Chad in judgement? 😄

[signal frigate]

It's still small blind no?

[signal frigate]

That's what I said

[tiny canyon]

Nope

[signal frigate]

Bossblind that kills face cards

[signal frigate]

Eh, better than wee I guess

[tiny canyon]

It is now, just beat flint

[signal frigate]

You can take the other pack

[signal frigate]

Hey, more face cards

[tiny canyon]

WHEEL OF FORTUNE

[signal frigate]

You can scum this but you have to be fast

[tiny canyon]

yeah strength

Welll, I guess

[signal frigate]

Pause the MOMENT the wheel hits something

[tiny canyon]

I can try scumming

[signal frigate]

If it doesn't then scum it

[tiny canyon]

NOPE

Scumming it

[signal frigate]

Noice

[tiny canyon]

Faces it is then

[opal pine]

you scum it here by alt + f4 right?

before it returns to shop

[tiny canyon]

I discourage doing so. This is just for experimental purposes

Ice cream?

or just cont

[opal pine]

cont

I say

[signal frigate]

You could fuck up the run doing that

[signal frigate]

Eh, it's singleplayer, you can save scum all you want

[signal frigate]

That's wrathful isn't it?

[tiny canyon]

Its not good character

[tiny canyon]

Glutt

[tiny canyon]

clubs

[tame snow]

rerolled the plant…

[signal frigate]

Fooled me twice

[tiny canyon]

Oof...

[signal frigate]

Remind yourself to memorize what suit bossblind you've already passed

They don't appear more than once

[tame snow]

I always forget lol

[tiny canyon]

He had to reroll anyway

[tame snow]

I think the only one on that run was Diamonds

[tiny canyon]

what do. what do?

[opal pine]

how would you scum then?

[signal frigate]

This is why if I get the head in ante one, I always try to make more Hearts

Because I can still win ante 1

[signal frigate]

Just go to main menu

[tiny canyon]

Guess ill do the least responsible everything and get glutt, mag, and spectral

[signal frigate]

The way scumming works is, it's always one step behind so if you sell something and go to menu and then go back, it's gonna revert to being not sold

[opal pine]

you can do that before it goes to the shop and you lose the scum, or does it pause when pressing options/

[tiny canyon]

Obviously we Luigi here right?

[signal frigate]

It doesn't work on packs, you have to pause

[opal pine]

how do you pause?

[signal frigate]

Alt F4ing is unnecessary because it can also just delete your run entirely

[opal pine]

esc

[tiny canyon]

alright im just gonna play normally from here on out

[opal pine]

nvm

I'm stupid

[signal frigate]

It should win unless you got got by plant

[calm epoch]

hell yea

[tiny canyon]

Yeah
IF I HAD ANY LEVELS

Game just doesnt want to give me any

[calm epoch]

swash at+50 now

[opal pine]

oh srsly.... probably shouldn't

[opal pine]

di you get this by continuously taking double tag until a negative tag showed up?

[tiny canyon]

I somehow survived this because of a lucky prot before the photographs 😭

I shoulda died

[unreal iron]

you COULD sell stm

you have enough mult and chips to survive till ante 3-4

more deckfixing too technically

[calm epoch]

nah, i was just saving tags after ante4 (skips included for throwback) and stumbled upon a negative

anaglyph deck

[past copper]

Just got ahold of a fresh perkeo and eyeing this photochad combo, which other joker should I sell?

[opal pine]

ah i see that deck does that

[unreal iron]

you could sell rebate maybe

[tiny canyon]

Once again, survived becaused of a lucky prot and only because of that 😭

[unreal iron]

you do need the +mult from summit rn

[past copper]

true, we'll see how this goes

[obsidian patrol]

splash clutch??

[tiny canyon]

THE RUN FINALLY DIED

Good riddance

[tiny canyon]

@fallow briar

good night

[royal bobcat]

i don't pay nearly enough to make streaking consistent, in fact i'm baffled i have a 4 streak going on with how low my winrate is

i think its interesting that balatro still requires some consistent practice

cuz it's not like a game that requires mechanical skill

[obsidian patrol]

splash, banner and triboulet sticker done

[past copper]

Run is going decent thus far, and have returned to debate whether I need ecto here, I have paintbrush voucher if that changes things

[latent egret]

what hands are you playing

[past copper]

weirdly enough I havent had a strict hand build, mostly pairs and full houses

ik its suboptimal but it's mostly bc the hanging chad has been triggering one of my two foil kings a lot

[latent egret]

since you got perkeo you should be able to play fh or even 4aok

you defo dont neeeed ecto

your setup is more than enough to win

and you can sell summit for luchador if you dont have reroll voucher

[past copper]

I actually got directors cut thank god

thank you btw

[opal pine]

oh wow

what do I drop though hallu?

[opal pine]

what do I add a red seal to?

oof all of these seem really good

do I take the photochad for the sixth sense, I only have one 6 left in my deck

[autumn sphinx]

Splash will always clutch

[sleek shore]

Goodbye balatro until 2026

This game needs to be updated asap

Chat died

[fallow fog]

congrats?

idk

[obsidian patrol]

I wish but it genuiely came just at the right time to give m extra scoring from my trib to survive

before i found the chad and deck fixed to flush house

[earnest flower]

here's a question. The Mark blind is coming up and it's the second ante. you're playing red deck and also seedless. What do you do to save yourself

[tawdry burrow]

are you running a face card reliant build

[earnest flower]

no

i'm not asking what i should do

i'm asking what you would do

[tawdry burrow]

I don't run photo chad so

probably keep the build going

my last red deck run was high card so it wouldn't affect me much

[stark kettle]

Just fell into this run while trying my first challenge pretty sure it could be massive how do I convert it like what do I need to get

[tawdry burrow]

is it typecast

[manic talon]

isnt the mark kinda a non issue this early

even if you play face card builds

[tawdry burrow]

if it's the plant photo chad dies I think

[manic talon]

plant wont show up until ante 4+, you have plenty of time to get glass cards

[tawdry burrow]

oh yeah first time seeing this guy in a while

[earnest flower]

oh this is SOO USEFUL

[opal pine]

hehehehehehehe

[royal bobcat]

its fine, with the "sort cards by suit/rank" strategy you can deduce what your cards are

because you don't have a fixed deck yet

[opal pine]

sooo many triggers

alright here we go, the real thing

5.5 million

this was my amazing deck btw

[tawdry burrow]

[stiff herald]

#1 clown sucker offer

[subtle drum]

goofy ahh build

[royal bobcat]

you are le jimbo

[earnest flower]

SIR WHAT THE FUCK

and i got the worst joker

canio

[twin lantern]

hiiiii

im yumi

[royal bobcat]

hi yumi

[sick hare]

Canio is not the worst joker bro ,put some respect on my boy hard work

[unborn apex]

canio has infinite potential if you got loads of glass cards

that or hanging man

[frank grove]

does turning a face into a rock make canio scale?

[unborn apex]

or if you are on ghost deck and can get the one card

[unborn apex]

no

its not destroyed so no

[frank grove]

i guess thats just cause you can just turn it back into face anyway

[unborn apex]

also that one joker that considers all card as face cards

canio got some style synergy with that one

[frank grove]

pareidolia and an immolate go crazy

[unborn apex]

yes immolate that's the one i forgot that name for

but yes canio is not the most useless legendary

[soft vapor]

It's not chicot trust me

Chicot more like chigoat

[opal pine]

which one do I take?

[unborn apex]

banana

[soft vapor]

I would take micheal

[frank grove]

first shop buffoon, nana

[unborn apex]

yup. no need for chips for now

[frank grove]

chicot is so interesting i wish it just did slightly more

[unborn apex]

plus he comes around a lot

[unborn apex]

it can reverse a lot of boss blinds effects if you know how

it does do a lot

just takes a lot of rng to build around him

[frank grove]

it does but in non-endless runs he just sits there sometimes

[unborn apex]

until he goes against extra big blind with inf on it

[frank grove]

hes good for temperance value i guess

[opal pine]

do I take certificate?

[unborn apex]

then for that round, chicot becomes invincible

[opal pine]

or the small joker, or the buffoon pack?

[unborn apex]

no real value tbh, loads of rng to get one good card that will synergize with whatever you going with

[unborn apex]

small joker

[opal pine]

yeah but blue seal

[frank grove]

i mean, 1 in 4 for a blue seal is kinda really good

but you can just get 4 purples in a row

that early though, you can build a run around any red seal you get fairly easy

[unborn apex]

then 4 hermits in a row

infinite money glitch

ez

[opal pine]

do I take the buffoon pack?

[unborn apex]

up to you

[frank grove]

i mean honestly with banan what are you even looking for in a buffoon that early? like maybe econ joker

[unborn apex]

really early in the game as well

you can just get let the interest build up as well

[frank grove]

yeah

taking the buffon costs you 5

unless you just sell whatever you get out

[opal pine]

do I put a steel enhancement on my red seal 9?

or do I wait for a better enhancement?

[frank grove]

red seal steel is pretty good

[blissful fog]

If you're willing to find strengths until you get it to be a king, then it's a good invesment

[opal pine]

I'm not doing endless

[frank grove]

even getting it to like a jack is fairly good

[opal pine]

also baron isn't that good in non endless

[blissful fog]

Is it a challenge run?

[opal pine]

no just red stake red deck

[blissful fog]

Ahh I see

[opal pine]

it doesn't matter too much with steel

[frank grove]

baron can be good if you build towards it throughout the run and then find it

[opal pine]

the odds you find it is low, but sure

[frank grove]

yeah but you can still play the red seal at some point if you need to, or just have better jokers

[unborn apex]

red seals steel with mime

ahhhhh

[blissful fog]

Mime

[unborn apex]

naneinf deck on your hands

[blissful fog]

Better joker to find with the red seal steel

[unborn apex]

i found mime at ante 10 so its upto you if you want to go on the search for it that long

[opal pine]

If I win I stop for now

[frank grove]

have you done many endless runs?

[opal pine]

nope, one

my first succesful run

it's just not worth my time right now I don't think I want to experience more runs

[unborn apex]

@frank grove is that a gold stake badge on hanging chad?

[frank grove]

no, red

[unborn apex]

okay fair

[frank grove]

gold stickers are bigger than the rest

[unborn apex]

ahh damn i have night light on my monitor

[unborn apex]

that is pretty big

[frank grove]

right

[mortal needle]

This order gives a total of +25 chips for the first card right? Playing the card in general +5, chad +10, and blueprint +10 or am I bad at math

[unborn apex]

yes

no wait

hanging chad is gonna do it twice

so blueprint will do twice

[frank grove]

yeah thats why its +10

[unborn apex]

oh right

[frank grove]

so its 25

also you can copy hiker if you want to get more than just the first card up

like if you get dusk or smth

[unborn apex]

in my current endless run i got both mime and dusk

the only problem is my deck is pivoted towards flush spades and a bit of crisis with scaling

i got some red seals lucky queens but yea

[opal pine]

do I build for pairs or striaghts?

[frank grove]

pairs are more reliable

you can more value from your deck, gold, steel and blue seals and such

straights scale better though so? its very dependant

[mortal needle]

Yeah true, like just atm this is my current hand that I'm gonna play

[unborn apex]

pairs yes, straights are good for early and even until ante 8

[frank grove]

THE CHIP RUN

[mortal needle]

Maybe move blueprint to hiker to scale king?

Long-term?

[frank grove]

better right now to have it on chad just because youll probably death the king and not a 3 of spades

[mortal needle]

Fair

[opal pine]

do I sell the golden joker to see what judgement gets me?

[frank grove]

what seals do you have?

[opal pine]

also this

not a single blue one

[frank grove]

you have quite a lot of red seals though so you could sell cert

[opal pine]

yeah but no blue

[frank grove]

you dont need blue seals to win they just help a lot and cert makes it harder to draw your hand if you keep it, you dont have any retriggers right now for the gold seal, but you do have like 60 dollars so you can sell the golden joker and just acrew interest

[opal pine]

ohhhh

[frank grove]

nice

[mortal needle]

Oooo that's CLEANNNNN

[frank grove]

thats NICE

[opal pine]

also I got a soul and got trib from it (unfortunately already discovered it

[ember turtle]

waowie

[opal pine]

and got baron in a shop now

do I take it

probably not

works against trib

srsly, blueprint and this one in the same shop?

what do I even sell?

gros michel?

[frank grove]

yes

[opal pine]

how do I order my jokers though?

[sullen mica]

whats the easiest deck to beat purple stake?

[frank grove]

yellow is always nice for the early money start

[sullen mica]

ill try ty

checkered not in the cards?

xd i love not having to think and just clicking first 5 cards

[frank grove]

can be, as you go up the stakes flushes are less viable but if checkered is your fav then you can do that

[sullen mica]

but i wanna unlock the erratic deck

[opal pine]

srsly, two souls in one run?

what do I even drop here

[sullen mica]

how much does the swashbuckled even give

[frank grove]

29 right?

[opal pine]

+16 at the moment but legendary will increase

[frank grove]

oh

oh do you have voucher

[opal pine]

ah yes, does that decrease swash

[frank grove]

yes, it decreased the sell value of your jokers you have as well

[opal pine]

shit

so do I drop swash then?

[frank grove]

but honestly with your line up, either order or swash

[opal pine]

order does more than trib

right now at least

[frank grove]

yeah

but without swash you might just die unless you have straight levels already

[opal pine]

straight level is 3 right now so I guess order might be worse than trib if I use my level two pairs instead

[pale wolf]

does seem pretty easy

[opal pine]

got yorick

I lost

[glass zenith]

did you save the seed

[opal pine]

no

[glass zenith]

damn okay

[opal pine]

do I take brainstorm here?

I mean brainstorm can be good but, not really right now

ahhh the choices

what were you thinking @frank grove ?

[red thistle]

Sure.

[frank grove]

I dont know, brainstorm is great but if you're just trying to get collection then its fine there, its like a 2x

but now that you have gem its probably the right choice

[opal pine]

should I take ride the bus or do I take the planet packs?

[frank grove]

save your money

ride the money is good scaling + mult so you can with half

[opal pine]

this really doesn't pair well with the half joker, but honestly that doesn't really matter I'm taking it I think

[olive totem]

Why do you have 1.5 jokers (im new)

[marsh hatch]

Heyo

[brittle tendon]

Holy shit I love them

[opal pine]

you mean the torn joker, it's called the half joker

[olive totem]

Oh, thanks.

[sleek shore]

Is it just me or did the background change after getting c++

[opal pine]

it gives +20 mult if hand has consists of 3 cards or below

[sleek shore]

It’s more blue now

[frank grove]

yeah that happens

[opal pine]

what's the best thing to use double tag from cola joker on?

[sleek shore]

Double money skip tag

[frank grove]

depends, i like to use it on like investment tags or double money

[sleek shore]

Or like the best thing to do is not to use it

lol

[frank grove]

yeah

[sleek shore]

Double tags most of the time are not worth using

[frank grove]

or voucher skip in endless

[opal pine]

what about the negative joker?

[sleek shore]

Even worse

That you absolutely don’t want to skip for

[frank grove]

yeah, i mean on red stake it probably doesnt matter honestly

[sleek shore]

Negative joker hits a useless joker 99% of the time

[frank grove]

the one in a billionth time it hits a good econ joker goes crazy though

[marsh needle]

Hell yeah.

Shop build

[sleek shore]

The only use of that tag is when you just started gold sticker hunting and you are playing anaglyph deck

[frank grove]

yeah

neg skipping in ante 7 or 8 when you are already scoring 250 - 500k to get gold stickers early on is nice

[marsh needle]

Had to sell a brainstorm so i could afford a constellation i regret that that was probably the best choice, too

[sleek shore]

The only time I skip is for investment tag in ante one

Otherwise I never skip

[frank grove]

yeah

[marsh needle]

voucher skip good in late antes

[frank grove]

yeah

[sleek shore]

In endless yeah

[marsh needle]

ill skip negative tag or economy tag if i found a cola, sometimes

[sleek shore]

Arcana skip for the funnies

[frank grove]

most of the skip tags are just rng and just give useless jokers that you almost always sell right away

[sleek shore]

Skip tags need buffs

[frank grove]

investment tag buff was nice

[unborn apex]

take it

and watch it be chicot

[sleek shore]

I got perkeo

[frank grove]

holy

[unborn apex]

damn it

[sleek shore]

My luck yesterday and today was crazy

Yesterday I got 2 ante one legendaries BACK TO BACK

[frank grove]

crazy

with showman its technically possible to get two souls in one arcana right?

[opal pine]

do I take tarot merchant?

[unborn apex]

i got one seed for you, EGP8WV4M

[sleek shore]

Always

[unborn apex]

you will get a tribo

in ante 2(don't remember but it is a really early joker)

[sleek shore]

Tarot merchant good

[unborn apex]

and blueprint as well

[frank grove]

and first shop buffoon is two econs

[sleek shore]

I think so

[unborn apex]

i have never seen that happening

[pale wolf]

balatrodle spoilers in 2
||is it broken? it only does rare xmult now||

[unborn apex]

like look at this and the score lol

on a green deck

at ante 2

this is the kind of stuff that is made for naneinf

[sleek shore]

This shit is not getting Naneinf

[frank grove]

the blueprint is a rental on gold lol

[unborn apex]

no faith

tho i couldn't optimize it since i was new to the game

so i died at ante 11

[sleek shore]

Trib can’t hit Naneinf no matter what you do

[pale wolf]

not true

[sleek shore]

What

[pale wolf]

it just takes a bunch of Copy Jokers

[unborn apex]

worth it

[latent egret]

yea its very annoying

[pale wolf]

and triggers

[opal pine]

what is this?

[pale wolf]

https://www.balatrodle.com/

[sleek shore]

Do you have a team that makes it work

[latent egret]

||its one of the sub categories with the most jokers||

[pale wolf]

|| makes me feel like the random generator is broken||

[magic tree]

good run which contained baron and mime at some point but I didnt take it

[pale wolf]

|| or it got to the end of the list of what got randomized and this is just what's left or something||

[sleek shore]

Baron is a trap

[magic tree]

yeah

[latent egret]

would be unlikely that what is left is only this

[opal pine]

is abstract joker better than swash?

[sleek shore]

How much jokers do yall think will be added in the next update

[frank grove]

hopefully a nice round number

[latent egret]

||weve had baron, order, tribe, duo for what i can remember||

[sleek shore]

Hoping for enough jokers to fill a whole page

[frank grove]

so like 20

[sleek shore]

Which is 15

[frank grove]

yeah

[opal pine]

swash could potentially be better if I get some high worth cards

but abstract is just consistent

[frank grove]

or if you get gift card or egg

[sleek shore]

Usually

[opal pine]

yeah

[marsh needle]

Sometimes, things just work

Not a single wheel of fortune hit, btw.

[uncut bison]

i've always been kinda lucky with the wheels

[opal pine]

do I take ectoplasm here?

probably not right?

[marsh needle]

I wouldnt be so enthusiastic about any of the negative options here. you could totally ankh the polychrome chad though. With 43 dollars surely youd be able to find the small amount of scoring necessary to not lose on ante 3 round 6

[pale wolf]

||I'm assuming that it was perhaps a list of all the Jokers that got mixed up by category so that none would repeat, but then at the end there were a bunch of leftover ones from the biggest group||

[vale wharf]

Chat, if one has every joker in their build and every tarot, spectral and planet card...

What will show up in the shop?

[frank grove]

jimbo

[vale wharf]

But we already have Jimbo too

[mortal nimbus]

still jimbo

[frank grove]

jimbo is default iirc

[vale wharf]

But there are at least 2 slots in the shop

[frank grove]

and if you have every joker you also have showman

[silk tapir]

Jokers will be Jimbo, Tarots Strength (iirc) an Planets Pluto

[frank grove]

so this is not a good thought experiment

[vale wharf]

Oh, right

[silk tapir]

those are the defaults of nothing else is available afaik

[frank grove]

what is the default tarot card though?

[silk tapir]

idk the default Spectral and idk the default for higher rarity Jokers

[frank grove]

strength seems kinda crazy

[mortal nimbus]

higher rarity jokers is still jimbo

blank is the default voucher

incantation (maybe familiar) is the default spectral

[pale wolf]

||there's been order, tribe, family, baron, (vagabond splitting the group up disproves my idea though||

[silk tapir]

default voucher is from voucher tag after buying all of them right or is there some other way to see it

[pale wolf]

The default Joker is Jimbo, the default tarot card is strength, the default spectral card is incantation I believe? The default planet is Pluto

[mortal nimbus]

just having all vouchers that are unlocked

[pale wolf]

yeah and default voucher is blank

[mortal nimbus]

the shop voucher still spawns naturally even if you have all available vouchers

[frank grove]

why is default tarot strength?

[pale wolf]

blank voucher is generated when the game runs out of vouchers in the pool to generate, you can either buy all the vouchers or you could take a big voucher skip tag

[acoustic kettle]

Because

[silk tapir]

used to be Fool or Emperor (I forgot which) and it was (more easily) abusable

[acoustic kettle]

What is the default spectral

[pale wolf]

it used to be fool, and then it got changed to the first tarot card on the second page instead of the first tarot card on the first page
ostensibly it was to make tarot looping harder but it really didn't change anything

[pale wolf]

incantation,read :p

[frank grove]

yeah

okay that makes sense

[acoustic kettle]

Why wiuld i

I play balatro

[mortal nimbus]

pretty sure handy is the default skip tag as well but it doesn't actually matter since this can't be triggered normally

[acoustic kettle]

What is the

Default pack

[frank grove]

i think it would just be whatever would usually be there right?

[pale wolf]

there is no default pack because you can't block the pool

and I'm not sure if there's anything stopping two identical packs from being next to each other

[acoustic kettle]

Is there a default boss blind

[pale wolf]

no

The list repeats in random orders

That's how serpent endless

[opal pine]

the default spectraal is the one that makes some enhanced number cards I believe

[pale wolf]

literacy rate is low

[pale wolf]

The default for all Jokers is Jimbo

regardless of rarity

[opal pine]

I didn't read allothat yet

[pale wolf]

correct

[frank grove]

ok so

[pale wolf]

🦓

[white zodiac]

yeah #🕹・game-discussion message

[marsh needle]

Been a long time since ive seen this :)

[pale wolf]

no I'm pretty sure you cheated

😎

[white zodiac]

oh

[pale wolf]

obelisk doesn't even get that high, it only goes up to like 1.2 before it resets

[white zodiac]

i unlocked bloodstone on accident that run

[pale wolf]

DUCK

[opal pine]

why 6?

[white zodiac]

goose

[pale wolf]

It's probably just the rank that showed up

[white zodiac]

[marsh needle]

6 is what i began fixing into, so it is what i stayed in

Magic deck with 3x strength

[pale wolf]

It's not worth focusing on a specific rank if the good card you have is already on a different rate

[sleek shore]

A take: obelisk is a joker that technically scales

[marsh needle]

was building 3oak in ante 2-3, ante 4-6 i swapped 5oak and then fuck it might as well flush five

[sleek shore]

Skip for red card value

[marsh needle]

Literally the only reason im playing 6 is because in big blind(?) ante 1 i drew a pair of 5’s and one six

And i had strength

I may have swapped to a different rank at a point if i had a reason to, but the polychrome 6 i found was soooo lucky dude omg

I love this damn build

[pale wolf]

this is actually such a massive loss

[pale wolf]

because what if a judgment generates Bloodstone and makes you discover it

[marsh needle]

+200 fortune teller x10 constellation soon

Maybe ill turn every hand level purple

[white zodiac]

i have to ban my judgment uses now

[opal pine]

my straight flush level is so high that it completes blinds even without any buffs

[marsh needle]

Bro skipped the spectral pack

w build tho

[opal pine]

oh shit I didn't even realise that my four fingers exists

[rancid niche]

Ez

[opal pine]

I've been playing suboptimally, oh well, time to find a better joker

[rancid niche]

Balatrodle btw

[opal pine]

a bit late for that but I suppose I'll go endless this time instead

[rancid niche]

If you wanna go endless I suppose you don't need constellation

Constellation is pretty good but very slow

[marsh needle]

I think this boss blind killed me, but gg awesome little build

[rancid niche]

Nice

[marsh needle]

Omg i was wrong

even tho pillar removed my glass cards my backup worked waow

ok im still in it haha

[rancid niche]

How much were you scoring with glass cards?

[marsh needle]

I dont think much over 100billion?

Ive been thru plenty of ante 10-14 stuff where its glass cards or die

I kinda thought it was the case here but i guess the jokers are pulling a ton of weight

I pulled together the best hand i could, anyway

[pale wolf]

troubador and vagabond together is funny

[marsh needle]

i no longer have much value for 5 hands vs 4

[pale wolf]

I would assume you have little value for vagabond at all

just blocking rares

[marsh needle]

Would rather more space for gold, blue, and steel given im playing 5 card hands

[unborn apex]

not that much weight tho, i don't think they are contributing much

the levels of that straight flush are pulling their weights

[marsh needle]

Nah im still playing by the vagabond

even tho i toootally shouldnt be maybe haha

Big fortune teller

if i wanted to be optimal id shift to econ and find idol asap

[marsh needle]

idk how u havent read into the context of the message you replied to lol

[unborn apex]

Guess i am just blind 😔

[opal pine]

I lost to the water

no discards is rough when going for straight flushes

[unborn apex]

if only you had chigoat

[jolly relic]

im confused how am i meant to get 1000s of money

[white zodiac]

rebate/ticket farming

or parking

[frank grove]

that or mime gold cards and parking

[jolly relic]

whenever i get a run that lets me get some sort of money theres never any way for me to make my deck good

like its antw 7 and all my cars are the same

[opal pine]

rocket?

maybe

[white zodiac]

you did not just say that

[frank grove]

rocket can only scale to like 100 and something with the vouchers and scoring nan inf 😭

[opal pine]

hwat why? isn't rocket really good as long as you get into endless?

[marsh needle]

Like the biggest constellation ever while never exceeding 50 dollars (i am playing vagabond)

[white zodiac]

you don’t really get a perfect deck until several antes in endless

[frank grove]

its good but not like 1000s of dollars worth

[opal pine]

wait it has a cap?

[jolly relic]

literally nothing in my deck though

[frank grove]

no, there is just a limit to how many boss blinds you can play

[jolly relic]

and how is rebate useful with a deck like that

[opal pine]

ohh.... sad

[marsh needle]

Omg

[white zodiac]

rocket only earns so much per round while being incompatible with copy jokers while rebate/ticket/parking grants hundreds in the same amount of rounds in endless

[opal pine]

i thought if you scored naneinf you would just win contionuously, but there's a boss blind with more than a naneinf requirement?

[marsh needle]

I just scored E11 with no retriggers and no baron mime fuckery

Ive never done an e score without those

Siiiiiick

[lunar zealot]

no shot i beat 7c on my first attempt of the day

LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

1 MINUTE

[white zodiac]

that’s most likely user error from just not optimizing early game with lack of gs experience or decision making

[jolly relic]

i had money there was just nothing to spend it on

and like how am i meant to get thousands

[marsh needle]

gg what a build

[jolly relic]

like thats js bs

[white zodiac]

that’s how endless is

you wanted this

[marsh needle]

10.6X constellation +238 fortune teller

[jolly relic]

righttt 'just get 1000s of money'

[marsh needle]

Double tag stayed there from like ante 3 all the way to 13 lmao

Unused cola for 10 antes 😭

[white zodiac]

yeah

that’s not something you achieve by ante 7

[opal pine]

now golden it

[lunar zealot]

i have

lol

[opal pine]

oh alright

now golden farewell!

[lunar zealot]

die

[opal pine]

nah take your time, and if you don't want to ever golden farewell that's fine too, it was just a joke

[jolly relic]

so im meant to fully focus on money until like ante 3 billion somehow without dying

[lunar zealot]

yes exactly

[white zodiac]

primary objective is to survive through ante 8 by normal means while searching for methods of spectral gen or to have purple seal kings into gold seal kings. let passive econ gen do its thing, spend half of what you earn, get missing pieces, cola tech, etc. this is a 20 ante process

[lunar zealot]

endless is about getting money

get money or you die

and you will always die without money

so it's either suck it up and get smarter with your purchases and decision making to make consistent money

or die

[unreal iron]

vagabond fortune teller is some underrated yaoi

it works so well

[vale wharf]

Chat, is there an arcade mode for Balatro? Perhaps an endless mode? I like the story and all, but it leaves me wanting more

[lunar zealot]

yeah press alt f4

[white zodiac]

ahh there’s a jimbo on my screen

[unreal iron]

and then go to steam, right click on balatro and hit the big uninstall button

[marsh needle]

Hell yeah dude

It was a double date

Constellation astronomer / Fortune teller vagabond

Good shit

[unreal iron]

nah constellation is a weirdo

actual freak

dude has a thing for blue seals

[vale wharf]

I thought people liked constellation

[lunar zealot]

constell is fine

[marsh needle]

Bro i havent gotten this far in the manwha

[unreal iron]

yeah its a good joker but he a freak

[marsh needle]

He like me fr

Bro if you keep giving me no jokers im dead

Stop

[vale wharf]

Hi, yumi 👋

[unreal iron]

9$ in round 4 and on magic deck 😭😭😭

chat is this cooked?

hermit in the nowhere, apparently

[marsh needle]

Used for full house levels

cuz why not

[unreal iron]

actively throwing

crazy

[marsh needle]

im gonna win with them and you will hate it

[unreal iron]

i bless you with full eternals

[marsh needle]

Mwehehhehe

[vale wharf]

What manhwa

[marsh needle]

it blessed me with tribe

[marsh needle]

Joking bc he referred to smn as a yaoi

No… i dont want to kill any of u </3

[unreal iron]

mr bones shot dead

[marsh needle]

but… i must be… optimal… </3

[unreal iron]

yeah save up money

please you must win this

[marsh needle]

Oki :3

[unreal iron]

rebate and a poly dagger

come onnnn

[humble hound]

[marsh needle]

Take investment tag?

[unreal iron]

no thats a round of scaling lost

plus you can probably get 10-15$ a round with rebate

and a shop lost btw

[marsh needle]

Ohhh true

[unreal iron]

so less jokers for dagger to eat!

[frank grove]

also one less round for interest

[unreal iron]

2$

[marsh needle]

Omg the run is saved

bonus 4 of diamonds 🤩

My god the next bonus card pack had no enhanced cards no nothing

dumb ass seed

[rancid sinew]

How hard is Balatro compared to games like Slay the Spire, Enter the Gungeon, and Dead cells?

Probably bad examples, but the thing in common is that I couldn't complete Dead Cells without Assist Mode, I'm still struggling with Gungeon, and I hear Slay the Spire can be really difficult.

[quartz ember]

well, white stake i think is pretty easy

[fervent wolf]

Straight build locked

[calm furnace]

fortune teller so goated

[sleek shore]

its actually super mid

outclassed by 8 ball

[calm furnace]

i find balatro piss easy compared to slay

took me less time to c+ balatro than beat the first difficulty with the first 3 characters in slay

[calm furnace]

both outclassed by Seance

[sleek shore]

that is true

[rancid sinew]

What makes Balatro piss easy, and is beating the first difficulty with the first 3 characters in slay something really impressive?

[calm furnace]

balatro is just not a difficult game

and dunno, i dont play much of slay the spire or deck builders rouge likes so dunno how difficult its considered

i just found gold stake balatro easier than regular difficulty slay the spire

[sleek shore]

but both don't compare to the cuphead tutorial

[opal pine]

that was an interesting run

[calm furnace]

and as far as rouge games i played, the only rouge like game i found easier was Hades below 32 heat

[frank grove]

nice money

[opal pine]

heh

[solid garden]

lmao

[rancid sinew]

Oh yeah, is Balatro worth buying on mobile too, even though progress can't be shared between devices? I bought Balatro + Slay on steam as a bundle, but I also hear Balatro is really good on mobile.

(Somehow, Slay's mobile reviews seem pretty iffy. Hmm...)

[sleek shore]

I play it exclusively on mobile

[calm furnace]

i play it more on mobile than pc

also slay UI kinda sucks on phones

but balatro plays perfect

[sleek shore]

its good

[calm furnace]

can even mod balatro if you are on android

[sleek shore]

Balatro UI on mobile is so good

[buoyant ridge]

nice sh,t ;D

[frank grove]

balatro on mobile is goated

[rancid sinew]

What makes it better on mobile?

(I heard it's possible to carry over progress from mobile to PC but not vice versa. I wonder if my achievements can also carry over?)

[sleek shore]

savescumming on mobile is also much easier

[calm furnace]

how?

[rancid sinew]

Haha, I guess I'll be picking up Balatro on mobile, too!

[calm furnace]

you can poop + balatro

[sleek shore]

closing and relaunching the game takes 2s

[calm furnace]

i find savescumming easier on pc since can just alt+f4 instantly

[opal pine]

you can just press esc I believe

[sleek shore]

Ig depends on your pc/phone. balatro on pc takes a bit to launch for me

[calm furnace]

i dont have to quit the game to savescum?

[frank grove]

i feel like balatro launches slower now than it did when i just started playing

[sleek shore]

there should be an undo button for some things so you dont have to savescum so often

like you should be able to return back to the shop if you accidentally left it

[frank grove]

i have literally never save scummed ever

[calm furnace]

but then you can just never spend a single dollar

just check every pack if its useful

[calm furnace]

aside from Ankh and Invisible joker there aint much use for savescumming

[sleek shore]

no stuff like that should not have an undo button obv

[calm furnace]

i heard you can savescum against some bosses, but that kinda defeats the idea of the boss itself

[sleek shore]

but if something does not cost money you should be able to undo

[frank grove]

probably for the 1 in x chance ones right?

[sleek shore]

yeah you can check if the lucky card hits

[calm furnace]

and the ones that draw cards face down, so you can play a hand see whats face down, quit and go back

[frank grove]

yeah i would never do that

[calm furnace]

yeah same, it defeats the whole idea of the boss

[sleek shore]

I don't do that

[calm furnace]

i savescum when i do invisible joker and ankhs thats about it

[frank grove]

and also just in general save scumming doesnt seem that worth it

[sleek shore]

savescum with wheel is so good

you can pick what joker gets buffed

[frank grove]

is it based on where it is in the lineup ?

[calm furnace]

no i think its the same as ankh and invisble joker

[sleek shore]

ni

[calm furnace]

it will pick the order of the curent jokers and apply the buff on it

[sleek shore]

you sell the joker that gets buffed if you dont need it in the long term

so another joker gets buffed instead

[frank grove]

oh yeah

[sleek shore]

same with ankh/invis/hex

[frank grove]

i mean most of the buffs arent really worth closing and reopening the game but i do mostly play on pc

[calm furnace]

sometimes a poly is nice if you are lacking some xmult

[sleek shore]

on mobile its so quick to relaunch the game so why not.

[frank grove]

yeah

[calm furnace]

also foil is never bad considering the lack of chip jokers

[frank grove]

true

do you think 1.1 will add more chips jokers, i hope so

[calm furnace]

i hope so and i hope they buff square joker

[sleek shore]

for me I mainly save scum if I make a dumb mistake

[frank grove]

square joker is goated asf

[calm furnace]

yeah i sometimes fat finger the hands on mobile

[sleek shore]

like accidentally playing high card instead of a straight

[frank grove]

yeah

that makes sense

[calm furnace]

its insanely weak compared to all other chip jokers that scale

[sleek shore]

but at the same time is free scaling

[frank grove]

and its also a common

[calm furnace]

forced you to play 1 less card which means seeing less of your deck

[sleek shore]

its basically no condition scaling chops joker

[frank grove]

other chip scaling requires way more specific hands or cards

[calm furnace]

rather have a blue seal

[frank grove]

yeah of course

[calm furnace]

+4 is too little

one mercury card is worth 3 hands to scale square

[frank grove]

yeah but you can play a lot of hands

[calm furnace]

compare that to runner, which only needs 10 hands to be fully functional

and is also a common

[sleek shore]

but runner requirements is high

[calm furnace]

heck with hologram runs sometimes i find blue joker to scale better than square

[frank grove]

yes but requires straights which is less useful for like scaling a lot of +mult jokers

[frank grove]

even with double copy on a cert its not better than square?

[calm furnace]

yeah but assuming you got both square and runner early on, you are saving money with runner since a straight will be one shotting the first 2-3 antes if you have a + mult joker

ive been noticing last bunch of runs that square is so weak by ante 8 i can sell it and it wont affect my score

[vast delta]

balatro reference
-# (two pair)

[calm furnace]

i almost never ever pick square

except if i have burglar

[frank grove]

i pickup square almost every single time i see it

[sleek shore]

same

aslong as its not too late in the game

[frank grove]

it works so well with pairs, and high card its just an insane scaling chips joker with almost no drawback

[sleek shore]

I almost exclusively play pairs so square is a no condition scaling chips

[frank grove]

yeah

like other chips scaling has conditions that make them worse

[calm furnace]

i play pairs and would rather scale by mercury cards

[sleek shore]

thats the thing

[frank grove]

yeah mercury is good but why not do both?

[sleek shore]

you do both

[frank grove]

theres no drawback

[calm furnace]

yeah but like at level 10 mercury square becomes useless

[frank grove]

you can sell it later on for an x mult once you have enough chips

[calm furnace]

its very hard to get square to be above 200 chips

[sleek shore]

but it also only costed you $2 and can help when your pair is still low level

[frank grove]

thats 50 pairs with 2 throwaways

[calm furnace]

if square scaled 8 chips, or started with like +20 it would be way better

[frank grove]

+8 would make it better than almost any chips scaling joker

[sleek shore]

8 chips would have been broken

[calm furnace]

then just make it pre scaled

like how runner was

[sleek shore]

it would be the second best scaling joker right behind wee (which is a rare)

[frank grove]

yeah

[calm furnace]

yeah +8 maybe a bit too much

[tacit stream]

square started with 16 chips before

[frank grove]

i think +5 would be fine but i honestly see square as basically just free chips with 0 drawback

[sleek shore]

if you really want to buff it (which I dont agree with) just make is start with chips like pre nerf square

[calm furnace]

there are drawbacks, you are seeing less of your deck and you need to waste hands to scale it

[sleek shore]

you are playing pairs it isnt that important to see your deck

[calm furnace]

for example if you pick blue joker you can be on shotting and saving money

[frank grove]

the money aspect sure

[calm furnace]

blue seals, gold cards, purple seals are all amazing

[frank grove]

but like seeing like 5 less cards isnt that important?

[calm furnace]

one blue seal is worth 3 hands with square

[frank grove]

yes but you might not always have a blue seal

of course if you do you can ignore square

[calm furnace]

i cant wait for the blue stake change

so castle becomes better

its a beautiful looking card

[sleek shore]

converting throwaway hands into chips is really good

[frank grove]

yeah

[sleek shore]

so many cards will get buffed

[calm furnace]

lmao even runner will get better

and runner is already insane

[sleek shore]

the scoring requirements might increase honestly because I cant think of much else to do

[frank grove]

would be nice to see another stake

[calm furnace]

ante 8 bosses should be 600k not 400k