🕹・game-discussion

[brazen island]

yeah it has to be balanced. you want an equivalent number of retriggers and scoring effects, including red seals and base triggers. keep in mind after pressing play, while the cards are scoring, you can shift your copy effects to mime to get gold card value since the end of round effect procs after the scoring

[fringe crest]

erm are you using steels

[jolly relic]

yes

but no red seals yet

[fringe crest]

1 bp on mime other on baron i think

3 triggers of 3 1.5

yeah

[jolly relic]

thats for the most score?

[dense kraken]

Yeah im losing this run gng

[earnest pelican]

beating The Flint on a gold stake run is always so satisfying. By far the most annoying boss in this game for most runs, I hope he knows everyone makes fun of him.

[brazen island]

yes

[fringe crest]

yeah yeah yeah

but uhh

make sure to put them on mime when you play the winning hand

if you have gold

:p

[brazen island]

hard disagree with that, flint is easily defeated by squimbo

[dense kraken]

i got 700 more chips and i have no mult jokers or didcards

[jolly relic]

i do

[brazen island]

i think the water is a strong contender for most annoying

[dense kraken]

the needle gotta be the worst boss

[brazen island]

oh yeah guys listen to my water rework idea: when a hand is played, -1 discard. when a discard is used, -1 hand

[fringe crest]

im a d1 the psychic hater

[brazen island]

keeps the negative effect of limits the cards you get to touch while giving you some resources back

[fringe crest]

it kills my runs every time

[brazen island]

psychic is definitely annoying purely because it can mess with blue seal value

[dense kraken]

do you also forget to use five cards

[fringe crest]

yes

[dense kraken]

It pisses me off

[earnest pelican]

Actually just faced Flint, Needle, and now Water back to back to back and beat them all

[dense kraken]

anyways rip chicot

gotta do a new run

[fringe crest]

wait

its called the psychic because it messes with your mind

[earnest pelican]

and yes I am doing a Squimbo because it's the best

[brazen island]

squimbo my beloved

[fringe crest]

what is squimbo

what

[earnest pelican]

Square Joker and Green Joker

[brazen island]

me when squimbo + red card + card sharp

[fringe crest]

i love squimbo

[hazy epoch]

i like ur pfp

[brazen island]

thank u goat it's from yuppie psycho

[fringe crest]

i got a uhh square joker + four fingers run on plasma and it was so nice

[earnest pelican]

this run was free tbh

[brazen island]

free wins feel the best tho ngl

truly meta

[fringe crest]

whenever i cant win a run i just spam reset for ancient joker

[earnest pelican]

oh no not the terrifying Verdant Leaf /s

[brazen island]

the verdant leaf watching me stroll up to it with my ten thousandth pair build

[nova junco]

guys I think this is it its the best build ever

[tawdry burrow]

can this game FUCK OFF

[patent bridge]

🥀

[brazen island]

not enough pareidolias ngl, but you'll get there one day kid

[inland helm]

double poly para is crazy lmao

[nova junco]

its temperance value trust

[earnest pelican]

You need 6 poly Pareidolias, champ

weak build tbh

[nova junco]

(I actually did get a temperance which single handedly got my econ online)

[nova junco]

wdym its got 2 polys

[earnest pelican]

Also where's your Ride the Bus, you need some guaranteed mult

[lilac meteor]

nuh uh

[hazy epoch]

4/8 ante on my first ever black deck gold stake run am i ran out of luck

[fringe crest]

hi phoenix

[opal pine]

interesting run (I skipped 6 blinds)

[lilac meteor]

oh hey

i finished gold red deck

[brazen island]

challenge run and it's just 4 eternal buses and an eternal pareidolia with tarot cards disabled in the shop

[fringe crest]

nice

[brazen island]

how do you proceed kings

[lilac meteor]

hows the blue black deck?

[fringe crest]

i beat it

with like

4 aj

[lilac meteor]

hooray

[lilac meteor]

😭

[fringe crest]

now i get to play purple stake!!!

[lilac meteor]

a win's a win

[fringe crest]

yayayayayayayy

[opal pine]

4 aj?

[fringe crest]

ancient joker

[brazen island]

congrats goat 🔥

[fringe crest]

i anhked it then got 2 brainstorms

[lilac meteor]

i think this is like every single one of my gold stake wins

[earnest pelican]

Are you able to get Spectrals

[south palm]

Bye bye showman?

[lilac meteor]

Bp/bs + photochad

[fringe crest]

me and you are going to hate abandoned

[brazen island]

yeah but only ouija

[earnest pelican]

Oh god lol

[lilac meteor]

i have NOT touched that deck other than white stake win

[brazen island]

abandoned deck is fuego and very fun trust

[fringe crest]

ive actually never played it

[dense kraken]

I remember when i kept getting dagger so i made a entire joker set for dagger and then lost after 6 antes because i didnt get dagger even tho i rerolled so many times

[lilac meteor]

i play abandoned, level them up to jacks, and go photochad again

im cooked

[fringe crest]

yeah yeah yeah

[earnest pelican]

I mean you simply just need to roll into an eternal negative Card Sharp in the shop within the first 2 antes

very very simple tbh

[lilac meteor]

im going to find a seeded trib perkeo run

gonna have some fun

[fringe crest]

uhh

[lilac meteor]

[fringe crest]

i have a good one

[lilac meteor]

sure

i'll eat it

[fringe crest]

its used to buff the freak out of high card

[lilac meteor]

observe?

[fringe crest]

JTDP1JEY

yeah

[lilac meteor]

okay

[fringe crest]

its on like ante 4 or 5

[lilac meteor]

where are the legendaries

😭

[fringe crest]

trib and perkeo

[lilac meteor]

what deck?

[fringe crest]

use yellow

uhh

[lilac meteor]

nat neg?

[fringe crest]

no

[brazen island]

win streaking is a joke

so mad

keep losing my miniscule streak

[lilac meteor]

i lowkey want nat neg ones

[fringe crest]

give me a sec ill ping you in my start for it

[jolly relic]

would replacing triboulet with a brainstorm in mime baron run be better

[brazen island]

max 3 streak how tf did doc do all of c++ without losing

[fringe crest]

theres the strat

[olive basin]

Are you playing on gold stake?

[brazen island]

yeah

since i got c++ ive been trying to streak gold stake

[lilac meteor]

any nat neg perkeo and trib ones?

[brazen island]

going through the decks

[fringe crest]

dude

[brazen island]

since i dont wanna just spam yellow deck

[lilac meteor]

i want to turn my head off

[fringe crest]

those are way to rare

[lilac meteor]

isnt there like some found ones

[fringe crest]

yuh

do you want the list?

[brazen island]

just download the brainstorm mod atp

[lilac meteor]

sure

[lilac meteor]

phone 😔

[brazen island]

ah rip king

[earnest pelican]

Shop 1, this is the ultimate beginner's trap for new players on gold stake lol

[buoyant ridge]

how can i get better at balatro to beat black deck consistently on gold stake

[olive basin]

What if I told you there is a seed where trib is nat neg and foil

[brazen island]

Bus shop 1, that's nearly a won run

[earnest pelican]

immediately rewarded lmao

[brazen island]

YOOOO

[fringe crest]

gg

[earnest pelican]

now I just need either planets or chip joker

[gusty orbit]

oh my god im actually gonna crash out, i have been trying to get a good run on the black deck for like ages now

[white zodiac]

you don’t fucking do it

[jagged valve]

Is there a win streak on stats i forgot

[brazen island]

genuinely tho the one thing that has allowed me to make any progress in win streaking is slowing down and pretending like i'm doc in one of his dailies LMAO i talk to myself like he does in his videos and it actually has increased my winrate drastically

[earnest pelican]

yes

[gusty orbit]

one less hand is not equal to one extra joker slot

[jolly relic]

im gonna cry if i die in this run before beating my best hand

[brazen island]

yeah

[olive basin]

No see here the problem these are both traps actually. The bus is the ride you take for this run. However, photograph is something you will take for the rest of your balatro career.

[brazen island]

yeah there is

[lilac meteor]

Im doing NGYHEH51

lets see

[vocal rose]

yes!

[fringe crest]

they are all free wins

hi zoahl

[vocal rose]

because there’s no time constraint in balatro

and you have zero reason to rush

[brazen island]

take photograph and lose in ante 3 for aura

[vocal rose]

therefore winning more

[lilac meteor]

i mean if i lose i should quit

[buoyant ridge]

shouldnt i try it ?

[vocal rose]

hi

[fringe crest]

yes

[white zodiac]

who knew slowing down to think would make me better at the game

[olive basin]

But aura

[white zodiac]

did i stutter

[fringe crest]

guys is painted deck hard for uhh gold stake

[lilac meteor]

but ill see what this will do

[fringe crest]

might take a break from black deck

[brazen island]

yeah i definitely made the bad habit of holding r when runs got too complex when i was grinding for c++, doc has helped me break that habit since my goal has changed

[jagged valve]

I do this too but honestly I'm just trash anyways also not necessarily because of Doc

[vocal rose]

no

[brazen island]

painted deck is one of the easier decks for gold stake imo

[gusty orbit]

i have severely underestimated the black deck, "oh but it's just one less hand it cant be that hard"

[vocal rose]

black deck is easily the hardest

[olive basin]

what do you believe makes it difficult for your runs?

[earnest pelican]

depends how good you are at winning with less than 5 jokers. You can win most gold stake runs with 2-3 good jokers, needing 5 is never really a thing.

[fringe crest]

i dont play it im js asking

[jagged valve]

Anaglyph is fun

[vocal rose]

do black deck++

which is what I did

[white zodiac]

5 slots is more of an early/mid week game convenience

[jagged valve]

I got an insane run yesterday

[brazen island]

i think 3 is the average, rarely less, and those two other slots are great for random additional scoring as needed, resource generation, etc. but the +2 hand size gives you all of that and more

[white zodiac]

did you finish already

[fringe crest]

wtf

[olive basin]

Oh I thought you were asking as in you have played it and are having difficulty

[vocal rose]

perchance

[white zodiac]

why does everyone have more free time than me

tf

[fringe crest]

no i just beat plasma gold and moved onto black

[earnest pelican]

Yeah I typically use the other 2 as utility, like econ or tarot gen

[olive basin]

Painted deck is fun

[earnest pelican]

or just to block certain card ranks

[brazen island]

im a complete degenerate who procrastinates all of his college work to grind another thousand hours of balatro for a week straight if that answers your question at all

[white zodiac]

i’m at 70ish after like two months

[buoyant ridge]

or should i completely give up on this game, abandon it and search a game thats more sutiable for me ?

[earnest pelican]

back to back foils from wheels lol, who needs planet levels or chip jokers

[floral mural]

so oops is funny but clever is almost definitely better here right?

[olive basin]

It forces you to be more cautious about your joker choices but in return you gain bigger hand size which is huge

[jagged valve]

Black Deck is fun too tbh the challenge is great

[fringe crest]

ok guys im in school and will have to go soon:(

i hate the phone rule

so dumb

[fringe crest]

erm i think clever cuz you arent gambling

[white zodiac]

you don’t become fucking tunnel visioned and play the two hardest decks just to complain for being the two hardest decks

[fringe crest]

\

take the dice

[olive basin]

It not dumb lock in for school, get your work done and then play Balatro

[fringe crest]

100%

[brazen island]

whats the problem you're having king

[fringe crest]

im in pe and dont have to do anything gng

[jagged valve]

Did you guys lock in on one deck or just switch after 1 or 2 losses when going for C+?

Or C++ counts too

[white zodiac]

he complains about the same shit for two months straight and throughout his entire chat history

[olive basin]

In that case:

[brazen island]

i honestly just played insane amounts of ghost deck since i find it the most fun when grinding for c++ lol but it kind of just depends on what you enjoy. the journey is more important than the destination, whatever floats your boat

[jagged valve]

Yoo live TF Scout event in my house?

[buoyant ridge]

because i suck

[brazen island]

then keep playing

[fringe crest]

yo guys

[earnest pelican]

I mostly did Anaglyph deck when I was just trying to spam jokers, I would shamelessly just go for ante 7 or 8 negative tags to fill it out. After I was at like 90-100, I swapped to Yellow and Ghost to finish it

[jagged valve]

True...

[fringe crest]

do any of you play a dark room

[brazen island]

it's a skill-based game, like any other game you need to practice to get better

[brazen island]

what?

[buoyant ridge]

or maybe i should train my brain and do some serious math equations

[fringe crest]

i dont know how to get any alt endings

[fringe crest]

web text based rpg game

[brazen island]

ohh its another game

[jagged valve]

That's my plan too even though I'm not there yet

[buoyant ridge]

polynom functions

[brazen island]

nah balatro math is all vibes. even drspectred, arguably the greatest player in the world and a PhD mathematician rarely does any actual math

[earnest pelican]

NYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

[fringe crest]

so

pair demon

[brazen island]

high card at that point

[earnest pelican]

high card actually, I got a few levels in it

[fringe crest]

oh

it doesnt really matter

ig

PUT EVERYTHING ON KINGS AND DIE TO PLANT IM BEGGING YOU

[brazen island]

high card is better with stuntman since making pairs becomes a lot harder

[fringe crest]

yeah yeah yeah

[jolly relic]

yay i died without beating my score again

[gusty orbit]

im on my 30th run of the black deck............

[brazen island]

and the chips it gives you makes planet cards pretty irrelevant for the most part

[jolly relic]

another 2 hours down the drain ❤❤❤

[brazen island]

🫡

[fringe crest]

i rarely take stuntman because gettting off of it is so crippling

[earnest pelican]

grabbed a Luchador because I am not playing with that jerk The Eye, he always shows up when I am doing a Card Sharp run

hope I run into him so I can break his spine from the top rope

[fringe crest]

there are sometimes where i take it

[white zodiac]

the logistical problem solving goes into further detail in comment replies usually

[brazen island]

you don't really need to get off of it. it mostly just limits you ability to use blue seals but with 250 chips the blue seals become less necessary

[nova junco]

so I did a photochad without the chad

[brazen island]

yeah for sure, but on a moment-to-moment basis i hear him say "ah, i don't feel like doing the math" all the time lol

[jagged valve]

I wonder what his age is considering I initially thought he was like a young adult but knowing he was a math teacher kinda gave me a different view on him

[fringe crest]

i like using gold cards for econ in most of my runs

[brazen island]

i think he's in his 30s

[white zodiac]

30s

[fringe crest]

lets me go below interest cap and good money

easy to set up

[brazen island]

fair, it limits that too, still worth it for the immense scoring tho imo

[gusty orbit]

fuck what do i do now..... do i get the baseball card but have no buffs next game or risk it and go for the joker packet

[jolly relic]

why did someone suggest me mime baron to beat my best hand when literally its js impossible to do anything unless you somehow get everything perfect

[jagged valve]

Yeah I thought he was like 23 or smth

[buoyant ridge]

i just dont know what to do to gett better at this game

[brazen island]

buffoon pack is the safe choice

[white zodiac]

stuntman limits higher chip ceiling and lowers pair draw probability in combination with further pair x mult exclusive jokers such as duo and c2

[brazen island]

baseball card is the degen gambler choice

[wicked finch]

baseball carries your run

[jagged valve]

Maybe mid 20s since he had to have some background to playtest Balatro

[brazen island]

i mean thats why you play high card with stuntman usually

[earnest flower]

guys i'm back in this server after 2 months is the game dead yet

[white zodiac]

if you’re talking about naneinf it’s by far the most consistent method for it to succeed one in every five plasma runs on estimate

[jagged valve]

It never dies

[brazen island]

the game is flourishing brother

[gusty orbit]

okay, this is a safe option, ig im running an anti face run

[earnest flower]

oh

ok

[white zodiac]

?

[fringe crest]

i could never

[earnest flower]

that's cool

[earnest pelican]

My boy Mr. Bones is coming along for the ride on the bus

[jagged valve]

Besides there's an update on the way

[jolly relic]

i said my best hand

[earnest flower]

wasn't that teased since like

[earnest pelican]

Do you mean your highest score in one hand?

[earnest flower]

january of this year

[jagged valve]

Idk?

[white zodiac]

in what gs or endless

[brazen island]

there are plenty of other sources of xmult. plus a lot of xmult can be replaced by taking multiple scaling +mult jokers if you're able to find them. stuntman is undeniably very, very strong consistently throughout the game

[jagged valve]

I didn't see the teasee

[jolly relic]

what

[white zodiac]

gold stake

or endless

[jolly relic]

endless

[earnest flower]

anyways chat i'm back in the game with more thinking abilities i think im going to achieve an easy 1e100,000 run vanilla seedless

[wicked finch]

then go for baron mime

[earnest pelican]

It's because Baron/Mime is the most reliable naneinf combo in the game and once you know how to deckfix reliably, you can get massive scores with it on a very consistent basis

[jolly relic]

literally has wasted so much of my time

[white zodiac]

my initial statement remains true

[white zodiac]

that’s just endless

[jagged valve]

You just need burglar and serpent for naneinf without perkeo

Mostly

[white zodiac]

a huge waste of time

[wicked finch]

i get it basically every run mate it's easy

[earnest flower]

anyways chat

uh

[brazen island]

it's pretty easy to get the requisite scoring to give you time to set up for baron mime. 1-2 decent jokers can get you through a bit of endless on white stake

[buoyant ridge]

nah i dont get it

[white zodiac]

which often backfires in terms of hand scaling mult in addition to

[jagged valve]

Low contrast hurts my eyes

[scenic sigil]

Getting the jokers and the deck fixing is relatively trivial for a naneinf run. Getting naneinf wholly depends on getting the vouchers and the spectrals

[white zodiac]

it has noticeable downsides for a very good joker

[jolly relic]

thats great and all but then im also depending on getting a bunch of vouchers and spectrals and whatever else just to get anywhere

[scenic sigil]

You can do certain things to increase your chances but it's still up in the air

[brazen island]

yeah but the downsides balance it, not make it weak. it's still really strong and having a guaranteed source of chips that you might not be able to get elsewhere is huge

[white zodiac]

ppl don’t talk about how much less value you obtain on average when entering arcana packs with stuntman for how unnoticeable it is to the average player

[brazen island]

aren't you trying to get an endless high score?

that's the whole shebang

[scenic sigil]

What is your best hand any way

[white zodiac]

and card digging power

[scenic sigil]

Baron mime is the most consistent way to get a high score idk why you're against it

[jolly relic]

yeah? which i cant get cause this mime baron thing depends on what i js said to beat my high score

[white zodiac]

which on average is more valuable than winning quickly early on

[scenic sigil]

You can reroll until you get a perkeo I guess

[white zodiac]

that takes longer than baron mime lmao

[wicked finch]

any build requires good vouchers

[earnest pelican]

You can get Baron/Mime up and running with minimal vouchers and spectrals quite reliably, it's maximizing the score from it that can require some luck when getting those in the order you want. If you see a Trading Card, always take it. Strengths, Deaths, Hanged Mans, and Fools are your best friends. Assuming you're doing it on Plasma, just take some chip jokers early and use them to reliably clear blinds while using your interest to open every tarot, planet, spectral and joker pack you see.

[brazen island]

you can get all that relatively easily. focus hard on econ generation, use that money to reroll a lot and open up all your standard packs for red seals, use 6th sense for spectrals (particularly deja vu or ecto), get as much tarot generation/deck fixing as possible and bam you're there

white stake gives you a ton of money making opportunities

[white zodiac]

here’s your nanlet pasta
🍝 #🕹・game-discussion message

[brazen island]

you can make hundreds of dollars relatively easily and leverage that to set up your deck + find the necessary jokers quickly

[jolly relic]

so the plant js doesnt exist

[olive basin]

Have you ever tried 4 of a kind baron ?

[white zodiac]

money solves those issues

[brazen island]

it does, so does the boss reroll voucher + luchador

[earnest pelican]

The Plant can be a problem but if you have tons of money you can just either roll into a new boss or roll into something like Luchador or Mr. Bones.

[scenic sigil]

Have you never had to circumvent a boss blind that can kill your run

[jolly relic]

ive had money like literally every time ive tried it !!

[white zodiac]

vouchers are secondary solutions for pre a25 stopgaps

[brazen island]

a LOT of money though. thousands if possible

[white zodiac]

fyi your econ should be in the thousands

[jolly relic]

rightt 2 whole jokers thats so easy to get

[olive basin]

Money does solve a lot of issues

[wicked finch]

how much money

[brazen island]

with thousands of dollars, it is

[wicked finch]

well yeah theyre uncommons

[earnest pelican]

I mean look realistically sometimes you'll get unlucky and a boss might kill your run, but that happens in normal runs too so expecting it not to happen sometimes in high score attempts is silly

[white zodiac]

4k-8k is the limited anecdotal average for econ for jorker/boss removal searching

[scenic sigil]

You can't guarantee getting a new high score you'll have to have your run die sometimes

[brazen island]

any time i've done a naneinf the plant has been basically inconsequential. just plan for it

[jolly relic]

literally every time ive used mime and baron btw

[serene forge]

fully online idol
looks inside
no idol to speak of

[jolly relic]

sometimes

[scenic sigil]

Whats your current best hand record

[heavy heron]

idol :) earlier today… it hit and skipped i was so desperate

[brazen island]

then do idol if you find it more amenable to your preferences

[white zodiac]

american steak

[fringe crest]

guys chicken or steak

[jolly relic]

e64

[olive basin]

The idol is technically online even if it doesn’t exist lol

[hardy fable]

how is the chicken cooked

[bleak hemlock]

this king made me 60$

[brazen island]

the two ways to get a TRULY high score are either through idol or baron. not really any other way to feasibly and consistently do it

[royal bobcat]

"look I have an idol setup on the easiest deck for white stake"

[scenic sigil]

Yea you're either gonna need to do baron mime or get lucky with a perkeo to get significantly past that

[serene forge]

0

[wicked finch]

pre-endless

[heavy heron]

i’ve only gotten idol online about 4 times for ante 8 gold stake

[bleak hemlock]

did you see the new DLC OMG ITS HAPPENIGN

[jolly relic]

OR get lucky? 😭😭

[fringe crest]

pluh

[serene forge]

yep

[scenic sigil]

Yes bro

[serene forge]

zoteboat

[white zodiac]

idol earlier this year gs

[hardy fable]

5

[jolly relic]

baron mime AND get lucky cause its literal bs idc

[heavy heron]

dubbb

[brazen island]

oh yeah idol on gold stake is pretty inconsistent. we were talking about kaitlyn's high score attempt

[white zodiac]

pretty much for just vouchers

[earnest pelican]

actually the most clutch popcorn appearance of all time lmao, it won me the run just barely

[fringe crest]

i hope that i can one day score as high as you

[wicked finch]

why do you think balatro is 100% skill based

[brazen island]

this is not a luck-based game, as proven by drspectred who got c++ without losing once

[heavy heron]

look how desperate i was when idol MISSED

[hardy fable]

are you sure popcorn was clutch

[fringe crest]

balatro is mostly skill but theres a luck factor involved

[earnest pelican]

If it's bs and you don't care then stop going for it lol

[heavy heron]

lost 2 idol hits, thought i was dead

then it hit

[jolly relic]

seems like they got super lucky

[white zodiac]

it technically is closer to 100% skill than 50%

[earnest pelican]

Probably the best player the game has seen got lucky?

lol

[royal bobcat]

That still doesn't make idol good at all

[wicked finch]

well yeah you do still need to get a little luck

[heavy heron]

that’s crazy

popcorn save

[jolly relic]

i will cause like christmas is coming up and ive already wasted so much time trying baron mime 🥰🥰

[brazen island]

not even remotely, the game is purely skill-based outside of black deck which does require some luck sometimes. you just leverage the information you have to make the best possible play in a given situation and if you're able to determine what that is, you'll win very consistently

well not purely. there's a little luck involved but not much.

[earnest pelican]

I'm gonna do a plasma white stake run now

[jolly relic]

didnt someone else just say it wasnt skill based at all

[olive basin]

I mean Balatro is about critical thinking

[jolly relic]

im confused

[brazen island]

whoever said that is entirely wrong or trolling or new to the game

[hardy fable]

99% skill 1% luck

[heavy heron]

ain’t nothing more skill based than my to-do list missing 9 rounds straight (no pairs, high card, even 3oak, or two pair) 😍

[white zodiac]

luck is negligible for winning gs runs, naneinf is more luck reliant simply with having limited methods of obtaining desired vouchers, parallel to the concept of rougelikes

[wicked finch]

pretty sure having capabilities to score ~e20 pre-endless is good

[brazen island]

yeah, that's a fair ratio i'd say

[white zodiac]

mhm

[wicked finch]

exactly my point

[brazen island]

i mean maybe, but a naneinf run isn't very hard to do, it's just much more time consuming than a typical run

[jolly relic]

luck definitely exists

[white zodiac]

as for naneinf iirc doc mentioned a 1 in 5 success rate

[royal bobcat]

It's good once in your entire lifetime on white stake on plasma deck

[hardy fable]

1% luck is early game your drawing for a flush and game gives you a straight that you should've gotten

[heavy heron]

it’s way more than 1% it’s not even close

i’d say 10-20%

[white zodiac]

well

[brazen island]

yeah but it has a miniscule effect on your ability to win

[jolly relic]

to win?

[olive basin]

Balatro is based on the choices and friends you make along the way.

[wicked finch]

once? people go for high scores yknow

[wicked finch]

beat ante 8

[jolly relic]

i guess that does make it less luck based but like luck definitely still applies 🥰

[brazen island]

it's absolutely around 1% luck, the better you get at the game the less you rely on luck until it's basically nil. doc has proven this time and time again

[white zodiac]

well syn got 93 gs wins in a row so it's at most 7% at its peak of blue deck

[jolly relic]

and its not 1% or whatever you said 😭💔

[heavy heron]

you could win any run if you play it perfectly, but you literally can’t predict what comes next what you decide to pivot to might be the wrong choice, sometimes even with pairs some runs are dead ends because you couldn’t have predicted the lack of mercuries for example

[hardy fable]

I have lost my touch and now i am at 10-20% luck😔

[royal bobcat]

Yeah but a joker being good for endless doesn't mean the joker is good in general
Idol and baron are some of the worst jokers in the game for a reason

[brazen island]

that's where the 1% comes in

[hardy fable]

peglin affected me too much

[white zodiac]

my current black deck wr rn

[royal bobcat]

Idol being THE worst joker in the game

[heavy heron]

ooo blue deck

[brazen island]

yeah i'd say i'm probably still around 10% unfortunately

[hardy fable]

I used to be at 5% luck trust guys

[wicked finch]

the run in the picture is an endless run as you can see

[white zodiac]

still haven't touched that game yet, im milking this game for what it's worth

[heavy heron]

i used to think yellow was best but yea blue is probably better than yellow for gold stake

[brazen island]

i think i rely too much on +mult scaling jokers, i have to figure out how to better navigate runs where there's no reliable flat or scaling +mult

[brazen island]

i disagree i think yellow gets you started a lot quicker which is essential for gs runs

[sleek shore]

Won with only straight levels

[heavy heron]

yellow is either 1 or 2 top

hard to measure

[brazen island]

yeah it's definitely up for debate

[heavy heron]

blue deck is consistently more money throughout your run

[brazen island]

for sure

[heavy heron]

not to mention extra hand (for surviving)

[sleek shore]

Yellow is objectively the best whoever argues otherwise is wrong

[hardy fable]

yall think Ill be fine with 4 hrs and 30 mins of sleep

[brazen island]

yeah it's up for debate 100%

[royal bobcat]

That's irrelevant to a joker being good or not. Unless the reddit post was sarcastic because they know idol is garbage I don't see where I could be wrong

[heavy heron]

maybe get a bit more..

[white zodiac]

blue has a slightly higher skill ceiling than yellow only because it has more overall things going for it throughout the run via joker scaling, money, card digging, and less points required to score per hand

[brazen island]

i'm still a yellow deck believer. i think the early interest generation and econ opportunties probably give you more money and score over the course of a run than blue stake on average

[hardy fable]

nope that's the max as it'll go down from now

[heavy heron]

blue is just more lenient if anything

[royal bobcat]

Yeah but blue deck is more than the money

[visual arch]

Does Baron trigger Tribuolet?

[sleek shore]

If I want an extra hand I just reroll yellow deck until I get +1 hands voucher. Now I got +1 hands and extra interest money

A better blue deck

[brazen island]

yeah but money = score, therefore more money = more score

[heavy heron]

5 more cards to dig, +$1 every round compared to normal, or an extra hand purely for scoring

[hardy fable]

what the what now

[heavy heron]

i wouldn’t call this skill, just lenience

[brazen island]

no?

[white zodiac]

compared to yellow, while very close in performance with its gtfo jail rental econ rut ante 1, still lacks the advantages that can remain consistent past a low roll early

[brazen island]

they don't interact with each other at all

[tender bone]

Gang pls help me I dont wanna sell the run 😭

[visual arch]

I mean why wouldn't it, based on description

[royal bobcat]

Money = score is with an asterisk, hand is score without that asterisk

And also money

[potent tree]

if i use immolate here do i automatically lose

[sleek shore]

The fact yellow deck can be a better blue deck is why I believe blue is objectively worse

[hardy fable]

one is held one is scored?

[royal bobcat]

Depending on what you need

[sleek shore]

Yellow deck is too versatile

[heavy heron]

do bare in mind that perkeo is not an auto win, so if you flop it dw LOOLLL

[visual arch]

Trib description: "Played Kings and Queens each give X2 mult when scored" so I figured "when scored" means baron could trigger it

[brazen island]

the problem i have on other decks is usually not that one more hand would fix my problems but that more money would fix my problems. yellow deck solves that easily

[wintry ice]

take buffoon pack

[tender bone]

Ive been trying to beat this in forever, and i dont know how to use perkeo 😭

[wintry ice]

and also uranus because cloning it to sell it is profitable

[white zodiac]

only need to score 80-250k per hand a8 or 3 pairs and a higher poker hand rank on a1 boss blind

[heavy heron]

get a temperance or hermit up in your inventory, if you know nothing else— or a planet

[hardy fable]

I still don't understand what you're even trying to say

[gusty orbit]

im somehow still alive after just slapping random bullshit on

[white zodiac]

just draws more of your deck

[wicked finch]

that is not random bullshit

[heavy heron]

yea, so it’s actually lower skill ceiling

[wintry ice]

"when scored" always means that the card needs to score in your hand

[royal bobcat]

Hands are way more than a little bit more score though

[brazen island]

noyou're forgetting the "played" part of that statement. baron triggers on kings held in hand, not kings played

[sleek shore]

Space joker + ride the bus is insanely strong

[tender bone]

how am i supposed to get 25000 kings after 😭

[wintry ice]

steel cards would trigger fib if that wasn't the case

[sleek shore]

Great setup for a pair run

[heavy heron]

YOU DONT NEED THAT

[white zodiac]

meant to say floor initially oops

[brazen island]

one hand is equivalent to an additional 25% of your score

[gusty orbit]

wait what

[royal bobcat]

Hands are scaling, deck finding, money, scoring and probably something else I'm too lazy to think about

[brazen island]

not that much compared to what you could get from a better joker or more resources that you find with more money

[gusty orbit]

i deadass just grabbed whatever seem decent and slapped it on

[royal bobcat]

That's if you only look at the additional score in a nutshell

[pale wolf]

fun balatro fact; cerulean Bell forces you to play at least one card

[sleek shore]

Perfect madness run

[royal bobcat]

The game doesn't work like that

[wintry ice]

and also +1$ or +1 mult or +4 chips and +5 card draws per round

hands are more than just scoring

[white zodiac]

not if I kill myself

[tender bone]

can we PLEASE go into dms, i promise i wont send you more than one message per 5 minutes 😭

[heavy heron]

i got you

[pale wolf]

losing the game via hand size is not death

[brazen island]

yeah but we're really looking at the value provided by blue deck. it's 25% more score, plus some extra money, plus more access to your resources. i still think the early econ building of yellow deck outweighs all of those

[royal bobcat]

If hands were only "more scoring" then burgler would be poop

[pale wolf]

but you are correct

[white zodiac]

hang man reference

[earnest pelican]

Scored cards means they are scored in your played hand. Anything leftover in your unplayed hand that contributes to the score or provides econ/utility is a triggered card, not a scored card. This is why Mime and Baron work together, as well as things like blue seals, steel, gold, etc. The language of Played vs. Held in Hand matters for scoring.

[sleek shore]

What do we think about astronomer

[gusty orbit]

Aran_Stare_Yes

[visual arch]

I had to sell my Baron 🙁

[pale wolf]

oh it's good

[visual arch]

For Verdant Leaf:

[white zodiac]

decent mid game value gen grab

[gusty orbit]

bruh most of my chips came from the hiker

[wicked finch]

more scoring,digging,scaling,money and deck fixing if you have midas mask

[wintry ice]

plus more scaling on a lot of the game's most consistent jokers, plus more card draws for things that rely on specific ranks, suits or hand types

[brazen island]

it'll be better once blue seals get nerfed, but it's okay. c tier joker

[sleek shore]

I don’t understand how roffle put it in F tier

[white zodiac]

8 dollars doesn’t warrant it good enough to take early for slower interest cap but mid game has some decent use cases

[pale wolf]

he's not great

[brazen island]

roffle has balatro brainrot don't trust him

[white zodiac]

well for one it’s roffle

[wintry ice]

astronomer is decent

[wicked finch]

probably put it in B when you dont have blue seals

[white zodiac]

and two the dudes video is about 2 years old atp which is not the same game

things change

woah

[acoustic kettle]

Rofl roffle

[brazen island]

meh even then. it falls off so quickly once you have any econ gen at all

[gusty orbit]

and i lost

[brazen island]

anyone else feel like this when arguing about balatro in this discord

[earnest pelican]

He has said several times to ignore his old tier lists

[white zodiac]

i value consumable blocking and joker synergies a lot to agree with this

[earnest pelican]

he made them we knew less about the game

[hardy fable]

the lion and monkey one seems more accurate

[wicked finch]

lowkey

[earnest pelican]

he says he wouldn't even do a tier list nowadays

[brazen island]

i feel like i am both the lion and the monkey...

"but doctor, i am pagliacci"

[brazen island]

worth it for the aura

[gusty orbit]

well ig im doing a straight run

[brazen island]

or find runner and make it a pair build

pairs for life

[wicked finch]

square and runner who is the better scaler

[gusty orbit]

yeah i hope i get runner

[acoustic kettle]

Does consumable blocking replace the consumable in queue or just skip to the next one in queue

[obsidian garden]

no you're not

:)

[wintry ice]

we had 7 hand size back then

[gusty orbit]

gatopendejo

[brazen island]

square imo. easier to use, more consistent, more synergistic with gold stake winning runs

[white zodiac]

red card didn’t exist

[wintry ice]

and expensive booster packs

[pale wolf]

what's the difference

[brazen island]

but both are pretty similar in strength

so it's a tough call

i just prefer squimbo

[hardy fable]

who needs scaling when you get 250 chips off the bat

[brazen island]

lets you play garbage hands

[gusty orbit]

i mean i like the square card when im doing a two pair run

[brazen island]

FACTS KING 🔥

[brazen island]

definitely not one of the best lmao

[pale wolf]

Square is always decent p much

[wintry ice]

i like runner more than square

[cosmic sun]

ahhhhh reddit, they get a dumb white stake run and base their entire being off it

[acoustic kettle]

Like when you're suppised to get bp but because you have it already it turns into a duo for example

[brazen island]

square is often way more than decent i'd argue

[wintry ice]

but chips are a scarce necessity so

[pale wolf]

runner is fine but it's like the opposite of square

[acoustic kettle]

Does consumable blocking acts the same way

[hardy fable]

where's castle in all of this

[acoustic kettle]

Or does it skip the item in queue

[cosmic sun]

an underrated goat

[brazen island]

worse than both imo but still very good

[pale wolf]

I'm pretty sure it always fetches the next rare Joker?

[wintry ice]

if you're in a situation where you win before you can use all of your hands

[white zodiac]

if you want me to choose one, runner on easier decks, square on harder decks (except for black)

[wintry ice]

you're in a good spot

[wicked finch]

castle my pansexual goat

[acoustic kettle]

[brazen island]

cold take: runner is a pair/high card joker and useless in straight builds

[pale wolf]

I wouldn't say useless

[wicked finch]

grass is green

[acoustic kettle]

Yeah ngl i just play card game

[brazen island]

LOL

[acoustic kettle]

I never pay attention to smaller things like those

[sleek shore]

Satellite isn’t that bad honestly. If you don’t skip your planet packs whenever you don’t get the planet card you want you should get sattelite to +4 or +5. It’s not a strong Econ joker but it’s also not completely useless

[wicked finch]

1 saturn is 2 straights worth of scaling

[pale wolf]

preserving fool value is much more important than creating potential satellite value

Not just skipping for no reason

[calm epoch]

wassup yall

[wicked finch]

is getting all joker stickers before deck stake wins normal

[opal pine]

fool value?

[white zodiac]

throughout your run you’re bound to have 2 or more planets used from playing normally and or whiffing planet packs

[pale wolf]

not especially

[white zodiac]

i’m currently doing one rn

[pale wolf]

yeah, you don't want to replace your last used consumable with a worse one if you're going to see a fool in the future, because you want the better tarot

[brazen island]

it's your toy brother, play with it how you want to

[opal pine]

ohh

the fool arcana

[wicked finch]

i'm too lazy to grind erratic and green

[potent tree]

proof that pair maxxing is still relevant

[brazen island]

in this house, green deck is a HERO

[potent tree]

(yes i had to savescum)

[acoustic kettle]

I managed to streak erratic white to gold

[wintry ice]

how many variations of the virgin vs chad meme were created

[brazen island]

always has been fam

[uncut slate]

pairmaxxing is more then relevant

it's overcentralizing tbh

[pale wolf]

uncountable

[wicked finch]

pairmaxxing is the meta

[sleek shore]

Pair is the best hand pair maxxing is always relevant

[brazen island]

yeah, changing blue stake in the new patch might change that a bit, we'll see

[white zodiac]

photograph is a virgin

[acoustic kettle]

Ngl for some reason i play good in erratic

[sleek shore]

99% of my gold stake runs use pairs

[potent tree]

oh look ante 1 rtb. "here, win"

[brazen island]

i'd say it's 70/30 between pair and high card

[acoustic kettle]

Erratic doesn't feel like a serious deck

[brazen island]

for me

[acoustic kettle]

So no pressure

[sleek shore]

Used to use high card a lot. Honestly pairs are just much better now that I’m more experienced in gold stake runs

[uncut slate]

what makes you pick high card?

[sleek shore]

Pluto scales slowly

Also much less synergies

[uncut slate]

like is there a joker or something that drives that choice?

[wicked finch]

i think it's more like a 80/20 between pairs and straight

[sleek shore]

Stuntman. Pairs are not that reliable when running stuntman

[gusty orbit]

Manaka_DontCry~1

[sleek shore]

Or steel cards

[gusty orbit]

what do i even do

[white zodiac]

this prob summarizes my poker hand preference

[brazen island]

just depends on the circumstances. if i'm set up to play it a lot early i'll end up moving into it moreso than pairs. stuntman, maybe even fist, blackboard, etc. it's not that much different than pairs, minor tradeoff for minor benefits

[pale wolf]

pairs are probably 70-80% with the rest probably relatively evenly between two pair, high card, straight, flush

[sleek shore]

What’s the boss?

[wicked finch]

check boss blind

[uncut slate]

yeah i play high card on stuntman but that isn't 20% of runs

[sleek shore]

If you can instantly get value out of it take madator

Otherwise get 6th sense

[gusty orbit]

oh it debuffs all clubs

[wicked finch]

matador

[sleek shore]

Take matador

[brazen island]

lowkey forgot about two pair actually yeah, that's probably like 5% of my gs wins

maybe closer to 10

[sleek shore]

Make sure whatever hand you play has a scoring club

[pale wolf]

flush has plenty of outs Even though it sucks to aim for as a build

[brazen island]

i lowkey love matador, can't wait for it to get buffed

[wicked finch]

matador is like a investment tag that allows for scaling

[sleek shore]

I only run flush if I have ancient jokers/heartstone

[brazen island]

rare that i use it but when i do it feels so gooooood

[sleek shore]

Otherwise never use flushes

[pale wolf]

Bloodstone sucks

Arrowhead

[brazen island]

BLOODSTONE HATERS RISE UP ☝️

[earnest pelican]

actually, Vampire sucks

[uncut slate]

i only use flushies with arrowhead and aj

[gusty orbit]

oh my god im going to lose fumble

[sleek shore]

Yeah

[brazen island]

vampire is fine imo, not that bad. definitely useable and can win runs

[pale wolf]

but yes Bloodstone does occasionally happen

[hardy fable]

still sucks

alr gn

[pale wolf]

The thing he does is suck

[earnest pelican]

He sucks

[brazen island]

his writing is this fire?

[sleek shore]

But if you get god RNG

[earnest pelican]

I like when he sucks my cards

[gusty orbit]

i mean he does work in certain scenarios

[sleek shore]

lol all of this was from one shop

[gusty orbit]

but he is very niche

[pale wolf]

it's a pun

[gusty orbit]

oh

[pale wolf]

vampire sucking

[gusty orbit]

MitsuruFacepalm

[brazen island]

delete bloodstone, return to pairs and cleanse your soul. a bloodstone will weigh more than a feather when faced against the scales of ra

[calm epoch]

💀

[pale wolf]

vampire is good

[uncut slate]

CURSE OF RA 𓀀 𓀁 𓀂 𓀃 𓀄 𓀅 𓀆 𓀇 𓀈 𓀉 𓀊 𓀋 𓀌 𓀍 𓀎 𓀏 𓀐 𓀑 𓀒 𓀓 𓀔 𓀕 𓀖 𓀗 𓀘 𓀙 𓀚 𓀛 𓀜 𓀝 𓀞 𓀟 𓀠 𓀡 𓀢 𓀣 𓀤 𓀥 𓀦 𓀧 𓀨 𓀩 𓀪 𓀫 𓀬 𓀭 𓀮 𓀯 𓀰 𓀱 𓀲 𓀳 𓀴 𓀵 𓀶 𓀷 𓀸 𓀹 𓀺 𓀻 𓀼 𓀽 𓀾 𓀿 𓁀 𓁁 𓁂 𓁃 𓁄 𓁅 𓁆 𓁇 𓁈 𓁉 𓁊 𓁋 𓁌 𓁍 𓁎 𓁏 𓁐 𓁑 𓀄 𓀅 𓀆 𓀇 𓀈 𓀉 𓀊

[sleek shore]

Vampire is a joker

We can agree on that

[pale wolf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1379214645742796911/1450266969667272724/screen-20251215-181949.mp4?ex=6942929e&is=6941411e&hm=d8e4545926263d213fce7dd41a7df0a5918fd69573cb9c3ca90b7894fb0ed74d&

[uncut slate]

constellation but it's like vampire and sucks away your hand level

[pale wolf]

I get a vampire run probably 1 in 20

[wicked finch]

mild take: onyx agate and rough gem is better than bloodstone

[pale wolf]

correct

[brazen island]

honestly not a bad joker idea as long as the xmult is higher scaling

[earnest pelican]

ALWAYS ankh spaceman if you're not a hater

[wicked finch]

i view vampire is like a cheaper constellation

[brazen island]

i see it as a more expensive one lol

[gusty orbit]

also why are gifs banned here?

[pale wolf]

because if they weren't then you would send them

[gusty orbit]

freakgato

[hardy fable]

I swear people used gifs b4

[uncut slate]

tenor is banned

[gusty orbit]

oh

[uncut slate]

not gifs in general

[wicked finch]

well depends if you have a tarot generator or blue seals

[earnest pelican]

Thank you, double Spaceman

really cool

[brazen island]

you already want to use planet cards, constellation rewards you for doing something you're already doing, like lucky cat. meanwhile vampire achieves the same effect while taking something away from you, which can also be money if you're forced to play gold cards + losing access to lucky cards

[hardy fable]

I have dementia

[wintry ice]

people overused them and clogged up the chat

[sleek shore]

Best case senario for heartstone

[pale wolf]

certain things to block tenor and other embedded GIF sites are on the word filter

That and stickers clog up the chat really bad

children really love them

[opal delta]

oops

[brazen island]

you will not ascend beyond the scales of ra

[sleek shore]

You wanna see something you won’t like?

[wintry ice]

big servee issues

[wicked finch]

gold cards aren't supposed to be played isn't it

[brazen island]

if it's bloodstone then keep it out of my sight

[fringe crest]

i have nothing to do this period😔

[visual arch]

Correct, unless you have Golden Ticket

[brazen island]

but sometimes you're forced to play them regardless

[fringe crest]

hi vic

hi zebra

[brazen island]

FUCK YOU BUDDY 😡

[pale wolf]

with vampire you usually keep your gold cards if you can, unless you immediately need scoring and have no other enhanced cards

[wicked finch]

i'd rather throw them rather than play them

[silent oyster]

is it “Even Steven & Odd Todd” or “Odd Todd & Even Steven”

[fringe crest]

thats some pretty harsh language friend

[wicked finch]

todd then steven

[sleek shore]

Chat died

[brazen island]

sometimes you have no discards, or it's too risky not to. it can't be helped

[sleek shore]

Rip

[wicked finch]

steven is gay

[pale wolf]

incorrect copy

[silent oyster]

like mario and luigi

[brazen island]

do i need to /j for that one u think

[hardy fable]

look at the collection and see who comes first

[fringe crest]

actually incorrect gameplay entirely. you should never use bl**dstone

[brazen island]

it's odd todd first because he's cooler

odd todd is the mario to even stevens luigi

[fringe crest]

yeah you ||freaking|| should

[brazen island]

will always overshadow his weaker brother

[sleek shore]

I greeded and waited for ecto before taking dusk

[pale wolf]

odd for somebody that likes lusty

[brazen island]

LANGUAGE?????? EXCUSE ME???

[opal delta]

go photochad or stay as stm or sell golden joker for photo to see what I want to do?

[fringe crest]

lusty joker is like 8 times better than bl**dstone

[unreal iron]

YO CHILL

[pale wolf]

I disagree

[unreal iron]

i agree

[wary flicker]

lusty joker boring tho

i prefer gambling

[pale wolf]

they're around the same level in general use I think

[brazen island]

truth nuke

[sleek shore]

bloodstone

[earnest pelican]

The Arm walked in here expecting an easy fight but little did he know I had Ornstein and Smough in my lineup and I ended up leaving at a higher level than I came in

[fringe crest]

it takes 3 triggers to get above 3 and it only hits half the time so 1/2 then 1/2 then 1/2 is 1/8 just to be as good as lusty

[wary flicker]

this dc just hates on bloodstone a lot

[fringe crest]

and thats just 1 lusty trigger

[unreal iron]

TRANSLATING... 🤖
❤️ i love oops

[brazen island]

bloodstone is just a slightly better loyalty card lol

[fringe crest]

so really its way way wayyy better

bl**dstone is a fraud

[white zodiac]

idk about that

[wary flicker]

but bloodstone potential is much higher

e

[brazen island]

plus it's often pretty incompatible with gs builds

[sleek shore]

Why are you even comparing them. Loyalty card is the best joker in the game while bloodstone is misprint

[brazen island]

yeah but if you're playing pairs then bloodstone is so insanely mid

[earnest pelican]

I have not taken a single planet lol, double space joker is hilarious

[pale wolf]

I think misprint is better than both lusty and Bloodstone

[brazen island]

you are genuinely my opp bro

[fringe crest]

space joker is the opposite of fraud

[wary flicker]

me when trolling

[unreal iron]

slay all bloodstone believers

[sleek shore]

I take bloodstone speculatively

[wicked finch]

i think it's worse lol 3 midstone hits is 3.375x

[tranquil steppe]

What even was this run lmao

[blissful fog]

Im 50/50 on bloodstone

[wary flicker]

dagger better anyway

[sleek shore]

Shit

[fringe crest]

search up from: verygaylesbianhornet with the text "i hate bloodstone"

[unreal iron]

not even speculatively i actively gag whenever i see it

[brazen island]

i skip bloodstone speculatively (i speculate that it will be useless)

[brazen island]

dagger is goated

[tranquil steppe]

1 billion results returned

[wicked finch]

true

[fringe crest]

dagger is good but i dont use it cuz i alr gold staked it

[brazen island]

the dagger haters and the bloodstone believers will not receive the mandate of heaven

[fringe crest]

bean haters will not either

[brazen island]

how could anyone hate my beloved bean

[tranquil steppe]

I just gold staked it myself. It was good with gift card

[fringe crest]

gift card is always good

[sleek shore]

if I get bloodstone and oops all sixes im gonna use it

[unreal iron]

whenthe common mult scaler STILL outscales it

[tranquil steppe]

Bloodstone forgives all sins

[earnest pelican]

I like Bloodstone because the art is pretty and I play this game entirely based on vibes

[wicked finch]

hot take: ante 1 riff raff is better than ante 1 investment tag

[white zodiac]

how’s the paint deck gs streak going

[unreal iron]

"just waste a joker slot and grab gift card or egg trust me dude!"

[fringe crest]

this is true

[sleek shore]

Well that’s a hot take

[fringe warren]

No little roffle boy don't reroll license on your heavily deck fixed build when you only keep Gros Michel for Cavendish even though license is the same thing

[unreal iron]

NOT saying dagger is shit but like

its worse than everything else...

[brazen island]

profane defiler, you will prostrate before the feet of the holy (squimbo lovers)

[white zodiac]

i can get behind this

[sleek shore]

I’m saying dagger is shit

[tranquil steppe]

Very good point lol

[unreal iron]

everything else being, mult scalers

[tranquil steppe]

It is pretty shit

[fringe warren]

Honestly how I feel about chicot

[unreal iron]

I SACRIFICED AN OBELISK TO IT ONCE

LOST ME THE RUN

[fringe warren]

Good but it's the worst

[brazen island]

dagger is just a worse red card, it's insanely good

[earnest pelican]

Cavendish will still work when a lot of those enhanced cards are killed as he deckfixes further, whereas license will not if he goes below 16

[sleek shore]

I sacrificed chikot and lost

[earnest pelican]

Cavendish is better

[brazen island]

ok thats on u bro dont blame the dagger

[calm epoch]

i just got a nat negative eternal baseball card

[unreal iron]

again, not saying its bad but its worse than the other mult scalers

[pale wolf]

it is very unlikely for him to remove that many cards

[unreal iron]

thats on me yeah but like

infuriating

[pale wolf]

he has lucky cat, he will be making lots of Lucky cards

[earnest pelican]

He has uploaded videos where he ends up with a 5 card deck with a lucky cat lol

[brazen island]

dagger haters claiming dagger is bad when they, with complete autonomy, sacrificed their best jokers to the dagger:

[earnest pelican]

that means nothing

[fringe warren]

I very highly doubt he'd go below 16 cards and by the time he would deck fix that hard he'd find something better than either cards

[brazen island]

lucky cat is an s-tier joker ngl

[unreal iron]

that was like one time its happened

[sleek shore]

Dagger trying to scale

Ride the bus over trousers

[tranquil steppe]

Paint who?

[quartz ember]

ehh

[unreal iron]

deck

[red thistle]

Nope.

[tranquil steppe]

The what?

[pale wolf]

He's not avoiding the driver's license for any gameplay reasons, it's because Cavendish is a much better video

[brazen island]

idk i like dagger more. i think it goes red card, dagger, rtb

[fringe warren]

I feel the same with dagger as I do with obelisk where I know it's probably good I just hate using it so I'll basically never use it

[fringe crest]

guys umm whats some games like balatro

[wicked finch]

cold take: trib is almost never worth taking in gold stake

[brazen island]

but yeah trousers worse than rtb for sure

[unreal iron]

risk of rain 2

vampire survivors

[brazen island]

slay the spire probably

[unreal iron]

binding of isaac

[fringe crest]

turtle

[brazen island]

grass is green

[red thistle]

Slay the spire.

[unreal iron]

enter the gungeon

[sleek shore]

Microsoft solitaire

[pale wolf]

risk of rain 2 😭 😭

[wicked finch]

that's my line

[fringe crest]

you guys think i should play slay the spire?

[sleek shore]

They both use the same cards

[unreal iron]

it is a roguelike isnt it

[brazen island]

brother just because its a roguelike doesnt mean its like balatro

[sleek shore]

You will enjoy it

[fringe warren]

If I get it I won't sell it but there's definitely better

[unreal iron]

i thought roguelike...

cuz thats the genre

[pale wolf]

You can't just name a bunch of rogue likes that don't play anything similarly to balatro besides the session style

[sleek shore]

Cult of the lamb is similar to Balatro

[buoyant ridge]

and loosing again because i cant draw the flush

[sleek shore]

Play that

[unreal iron]

i thought thats what they asked for

[wicked finch]

only reason to keep it is temp value

[brazen island]

oh honestly the closest balatro-like that isn't basically a rip-off is probably cloverpit

[pale wolf]

Lilo got into that

[wicked finch]

is ultrakill like balatro

[unreal iron]

yes :3

[fringe warren]

Cloverpit can be fun but its very luck based

[brazen island]

it's also a strategy deckbuilder not a shoot-em-up bullet hell lol

[pale wolf]

Yes you play it on a video screen

[brazen island]

yeah but that's fun in its own right

[fringe warren]

Also it wasn't inspired by balatro but dungeons and degenerate gamblers exists

[brazen island]

or maybe its balatro syndrome and only seems luck based because i dont have 2000 hours in it lol

[unreal iron]

shoot up bullet hell balatro mod when?

[brazen island]

BROOO UR COOKING

[unreal iron]

funny thing is its entirely possible

[potent tree]

running 4oak aces, what do i replace? duo and rtb?

[earnest pelican]

where's the person from earlier who said Baron/Mime was too hard to set up lol

I didn't even need a Mime

[fringe warren]

Luck in games has to have some control or else it's not fun and cloverpit does not give you much control on how much luck you need to win

[brazen island]

duo and rtb are functionally very similar, if you have a high hand level id remove rtb and if not then duo

[potent tree]

4oak level 8 currently

[unreal iron]

get rid of bus if you have enough +mult?

[brazen island]

idk ive only played a few hours tbh. its fun, maybe not super balanced but i wouldnt really know

[tranquil steppe]

Sounds like anecdotal evidence amirite?????

[brazen island]

yeah drop bus

[potent tree]

and ignore fib

yeah 4oak has enough +mult anyway

[unreal iron]

yeah fib doesnt matter a whole lot

[thorny axle]

question

[unreal iron]

answer

youre welcome

[brazen island]

you're getting more than enough +mult from hand levels and potentially enhancements alone

[thorny axle]

if i play painted deck can i unlock invis joker

[calm epoch]

yes

[buoyant ridge]

lol im always loosing

[unreal iron]

whats the req

[calm epoch]

win run with 4 jokers or less

aka painted deck

[brazen island]

yes

[unreal iron]

i mean yeah that sounds like a good idea

[brazen island]

join the brotherhood of the pair

[unreal iron]

granted doesnt that mean that you just bring 4 jokers into ante 8?

instead of 5

[wicked finch]

how much levels in 4oak do i need to beat 200000 in plasma

[brazen island]

dawg trying to unlock invis and getting 10 incredible natural negatives on his painted deck runs

[wicked finch]

i want to try crim bean one day

[brazen island]

jokerless?

[wicked finch]

yes

[unreal iron]

i know you need ~50 straight levels to one shot gs plasma :3

maybe more idk

[brazen island]

no clue dawg

[unreal iron]

30/3

uhm

[wicked finch]

4 oak and straights scale at the same speed so i know now

[unreal iron]

20...?

wait no

just pull up the balatro calculator

that exists btw

[wicked finch]

ok

lv 25

easy

[potent tree]

man if only i hadn't chosen to get cloud 9 for econ

well goodbye DL

[zealous kelp]

Anaglyph deck

[tranquil steppe]

lol eternal cloud 9 is certainly a uhhhhhhhh choice

[wicked finch]

optimal c++ setup

[tranquil steppe]

All your negatives are belong to me

[wintry ice]

and not eternal dna?

[terse vale]

eternal econ? neverbefore heard of

actually that sounded a bit rude what I meant was its not an outlandish choice

[potent tree]

a real shame i haven't found any red seals

[buoyant ridge]

and loosing again because of zero X mults

[tranquil steppe]

It’s just a very poor one

[terse vale]

I don’t see how

[pliant jewel]

cloud 9 is my goat

[potent tree]

praise the showman 🙏

[buoyant ridge]

nvm i cheat to make it more fair and balanced

[cloud sinew]

balatro

[cloud sinew]

nat neg blueprint?

[potent tree]

nah 2 ectos

but since i have enough DNA copiers it doesn't matter

[cloud sinew]

yeah

[potent tree]

definitely a run of considerable naneinf potential, i just created the wrong rank i guess.

and/or picked cloud 9.

[wary flicker]

well at the same time would you have gotten this far

without it

[potent tree]

seeing how many lucky cards i had i might have. also i did destroy one 9 so

[wary flicker]

maybe

polychrome lucky cards 😍

[buoyant ridge]

what should i do here ?

bufon pack ?