Do shortcuts stack?
#🕹・game-discussion
frank grove
minor portal
Good question
frank grove
im guessing they were joking?
opal pine
im guessing they were joking?
that wasn't very clear in that case
blissful cedar
Raised fist enjoyment happening i see
frank grove
i think with shortcut card sharp isnt too bad for straights though
blissful cedar
Im winning rn, I do risk right? Two pair n house leveled up and net me 100k+ a hand and unleveled 4oak also gets me abt 90 i don't risk right
Even if this was hypothetically a high score run you dont even risk then right? (Provided my joker build could never)
Im so curious as to whats there tho
frank grove
That late in a game gotta find out right?
frank grove
theres no downside to taking it ?
blissful cedar
I mean i could probably win without 1 or the other but for certainty i dont wanna take
frank grove
yeah
silk cobalt
Guys I haven't unlocked it yet but wut does Chicot do?
frank grove
disables boss blinds
opal pine
best here?
frank grove
whats in the fool?
gloomy marsh
when youre looking for very specific jokers for c++ (i only have 9 left) what decks should i run? these are 2 uncommon, 5 rare, and 2legendary.
i tried using spectral deck and rare skip tags but i never get what im looking for.
lunar zealot
the deck you're most comfortable with
gloomy marsh
hm alright
spectral seems the most practical since i can pull wraith more easily
and i enjoy it
lunar zealot
Yellow is good
frank grove
yeah
lunar zealot
blue is good
checkered is fine
you can skip for mega arcana ante 1 to find the legendary
shell dagger
Zodiac
frank grove
anaglyph if you are feeling very lucky and do neg skip
gloomy marsh
anaglyph if you are feeling very lucky and do neg skip
this worked well until a certain point
frank grove
yeah
opal pine
is magic trick voucher any good?
shell dagger
Negative skip is very unlikely to pay off at this stage
gloomy marsh
you can skip for mega arcana ante 1 to find the legendary
seems like i gotta do this unfortunately for hte legendary, gonna be very annoying
shell dagger
is magic trick voucher any good?
Generally not something you want
Good with hologram
lunar zealot
is magic trick voucher any good?
In very specific circumstances
opal pine
devil or chariot?
frank grove
depends
frank grove
probably gold card then
gloomy marsh
probably devil, build econ early on. but if youre running high card and planning for a steel card build you can go for the chariot.
distant vault
Bruh
white zodiac
the man
opal pine
blue joker or abstract joker?
distant vault
open the buffoon packs
My man
distant vault
opal pine
clarification for build so far
silk cobalt
disables boss blinds
Wut's the difference between Luchador and Chicot?
gloomy marsh
clarification for build so far
probably abstract. i doubt you have much mult right now
what level is your straight
blissful cedar
You dont have to sell chicot
lunar zealot
Well no
frank grove
Wut's the difference between Luchador and Chicot?
luchador you have to sell chicot you do not
opal pine
what level is your straight
low
lunar zealot
with shortcut you can just spam straights ad infinitum really
blissful cedar
Chicot just sits there and can be used from the time you get to the time you lose
silk cobalt
luchador you have to sell chicot you do not
Chicot's automatic? Noice
lunar zealot
You need planets and you need a way to not die to flint
gloomy marsh
low
abstract
if youre playing straights rn and u have low level u need mult
no other mult jokers as well
blissful cedar
I concur always take mult when ur low level chips won't carry you anywhere without mult
What is low-level for you anyways
opal pine
this any good, since I have green deck
blissful cedar
I consider anything about 3 to be decent
opal pine
lvl 3 straight
blissful cedar
Take it for your collection you havent discovered it
opal pine
oops I should've taken the voucher first
blissful cedar
I do that too 💀shouldnt be in here giving advice
blissful cedar
Talisman seems like it sucks but I promise you its the best thing in there and youll understand one day
last bolt
hi guys
opal pine
you sure? I have very little money rn
blissful cedar
Im not good w idol so i wont comment on it
frank grove
yeah, i mean at 6 bucks
gloomy marsh
Talisman seems like it sucks but I promise you its the best thing in there and y...
this is true but take wraith for fun
opal pine
womp womp womp
gloomy marsh
could be a blueprint. always gamble
last bolt
this is my progress rn
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what deck should i go for
opal pine
can't not enough money
frank grove
my build rn raised fist cult leader
opal pine
SELL IT AND TAKE RAISED FIST
is raised fist really that good?
frank grove
for madness
gloomy marsh
this is my progress rn
<:Red:1438888809772093450><:PurpleStake:14388913932242821...
magic!
serene forge
blissful cedar
Its not the best but it's deffo valid and will carry you every now and then
opal pine
Its not the best but it's deffo valid and will carry you every now and then
should I take it over bull?
agile patrol
opal pine
or abstract
vale wharf
That makes sense, yeah
It's still fun to think about though, lol
I think if you get square jokers and spare trousers, you can make something work
blissful cedar
should I take it over bull?
Yes
white zodiac
uh oh
blissful cedar
But im a biased man
gloomy marsh
they lowkey gotta nerf immolate
white zodiac
and one of my 9s
vale wharf
Chat, if you could have only two jokers on a gold stake run, which two would you choose?
white zodiac
it hit all of my good cards
vale wharf
They are eternal
gloomy marsh
Chat, if you could have only two jokers on a gold stake run, which two would you...
identical allowed or no
blissful cedar
Ive never had gold stake so
vale wharf
identical allowed or no
No identical, unless you choose invisible
blissful cedar
Polychrome raised fist and stuntman
Holo stuntman
Id be on every wheel of fortune
gloomy marsh
No identical, unless you choose invisible
stencil joker and invisible
vale wharf
Polychrome raised fist and stuntman
Why raised fist?
blissful cedar
Its my beloved
vale wharf
rebate campfire
That's actually not bad, but chips?
blissful cedar
Raised fist mime also goes hard
white zodiac
indirect stuntman synergy
white zodiac
That's actually not bad, but chips?
money gen will naturally take care of that
blissful cedar
But raised fist mime dependent on steel cards
shell dagger
Cert mime
median summit
What would you do? Black deck purple stake, wasteful and grabber, "The Eye" next boss. (This is hard.)
vale wharf
Would certificate hologram be good?
white zodiac
i get the best econ joker in the game and the most unconditional scaling scoring method
shell dagger
Yeah
white zodiac
mhm
blissful cedar
What would you do? Black deck purple stake, wasteful and grabber, "The Eye" next...
Depends on ur deck and hand levels
median summit
Default deck and levels
blissful cedar
The eye is no repeats or only 1 hand type
frank grove
opal pine
is supernova good?
frank grove
is supernova good?
yes
gloomy marsh
is supernova good?
its quite good but for straights might be a little mid if youre 1 shotting
opal pine
over abstract or bull?
opal pine
its quite good but for straights might be a little mid if youre 1 shotting
2 shotting most of the time
frank grove
probably bull
gloomy marsh
2 shotting most of the time
see how many times youve played straights
tranquil locust
F
opal pine
see how many times youve played straights
12
median summit
Yeah thats plausible, just no econ is screwing me.
blissful cedar
Hot
opal pine
what level is your straight?
4
frank grove
how much is bull on rn?
gloomy marsh
if you really wanted to you can replace bull since straights have such a high amount of chips with scaling
frank grove
yeah
opal pine
how much is bull on rn?
50-ish
frank grove
one straight level is probably more than the bull rn
gloomy marsh
yea drop bull
tranquil locust
Whats the negative??? My fault
1 brainstorm 1 baron 1 brainstorm
opal pine
one straight level is probably more than the bull rn
alright
frank grove
straights are +30 chips per level right?
tranquil locust
bluestorm is negative
gloomy marsh
What would you do? Black deck purple stake, wasteful and grabber, "The Eye" next...
you might be cooked here. lusty joker and blackboard wont be very effective
tranquil locust
fuck
gloomy marsh
just take the blue joker and pray
blissful cedar
Gg
tranquil locust
blueprint, sorry its 4 am to me
frank grove
raised fist enjoyers in the houseee
blissful cedar
Raised fist STONKS in the house tonight
blissful cedar
I hit polychrome fist last game too
opal pine
uhhh... what's this?
distant vault
Nice
opal pine
and is it worrth it?
blissful cedar
uhhh... what's this?
Your build rn wins take grabber
frank grove
uhhh... what's this?
mr bones, and usually not worth taking unless its right before violet
gloomy marsh
and is it worrth it?
not worth. itll let you live if you score 25% of the required score.
atomic trout
I hate the Needle
gloomy marsh
worth in the endgame ante 8 if you can skip to the final boss
distant vault
Really cool run
blissful cedar
Get planets for saturn up and and enhance your deck for optimal straight plays and you should win Kris
distant vault
I hate the Needle
Seeing angry monkey lose is never a good time.
opal pine
what do I take here?
gloomy marsh
what do I take here?
usually temperance
blissful cedar
Flash card on a loss screen
frank grove
prob temp
serene forge
lesbians
blissful cedar
Flash card stonks down
distant vault
Hilarious
serene forge
what do I take here?
temperance
distant vault
Flash card my goat
opal pine
alright temperance it is
blissful cedar
Still one of the worse jokers
serene forge
I hate the Needle
average photograph L
distant vault
opal pine
I've got 29 econ do I reroll?
blissful cedar
what do I take here?
Why would he not take hierophant????
reef flint
Crack theory but I think the update will add a candy joker
gloomy marsh
Why would he not take hierophant????
nerf hierophant
heavy heron
blissful cedar
He has his build set up all he has to do now is ensure victory he doesnt need much money
heavy heron
9 of my bottom 20 cards are clubs :)
reef flint
Crack theory but I think the update will add a candy joker
Evidence? The clairvoyance playmat ad on fangamer has references to other jokers
opal pine
I've got 29 econ do I reroll?
green deck btw
blissful cedar
I've got 29 econ do I reroll?
You mainly want to keep your money for booster packs and the chances to get saturn in the shop out of everything isblow
Save ur rerolls until the last shop before the ante 8 boss
opal pine
alright
reef flint
Evidence? The clairvoyance playmat ad on fangamer has references to other jokers
To do list, brainstorm, photograph, and what I assume to be cola all around the matt. Along with candy
blissful cedar
Get all the planet packs and if you see a planet you dont eant in shop
opal pine
raised fist is only giving me +4 though
blissful cedar
Take it as it won't reappear and increases the chances of saturn showing up
distant vault
Flash card haters in shambles
blissful cedar
Its a good luck charm dont pay attention to that tho
distant vault
Red card enjoyers when they can only get +6 a shop
frank grove
raised fist is only giving me +4 though
discard your low cards before playing a high straight or just play a low straight
distant vault
🤣 🤣
sand lily
Should I get rid of sock?
blissful cedar
Yeah play your low cards first whenever you run raised fist
opal pine
discard your low cards before playing a high straight or just play a low straigh...
yeah but it's a gold card, made it gold before I got fist
oooh
might be better than fist
frank grove
what straight level are you at?
blissful cedar
Its nog better than raised fist.
tame sluice
tripping
opal pine
what straight level are you at?
6
atomic trout
Seeing angry monkey lose is never a good time.
I have some victorias
frank grove
you're right
opal pine
also other shop item is the sun useless right? or is it worth it to thin out the shop
proper flame
Should I get rid of sock?
Yes.
Sock gives you an extra x2 for the photo and an extra trigger of any card modifcations.
Brainstorm can instead copy hanging chad which is objectively better, and BS gives you much more flexibility too
frank grove
also other shop item is the sun useless right? or is it worth it to thin out the...
thin out the shop doesnt help you with commons really
with tarots
sorry
like its okay but not right now
proper flame
Only thing you miss out on with removing sock is you cant retrigger multiple cards in one hand but thats probably worth it unless youre REALLY relying on cards
blissful cedar
also other shop item is the sun useless right? or is it worth it to thin out the...
You can fix your deck so that you can play straight flushes instead of just straights and they scale faster and are stronger
frank grove
unless you want to start playing striaght flushes
opal pine
hmmm
serene forge
I hate Photograph
proper flame
death and hung man in the emperor
blissful cedar
hmmm
You want card enhancements to support your build
Burn photo graph ground to the ground
opal pine
oh btw this is cards rn
frank grove
ooof the gold 2 with raised fist blowsss
blissful cedar
Since you have raised fist you can also death or strength ur cards into higher cards
opal pine
ooof the gold 2 with raised fist blowsss
yeah I know
opal pine
You want card enhancements to support your build
so chariot, or death?
blissful cedar
Its your choice
Its not my game of balatro im not gonna scream meta in ur ear
Ur build should already ensure that you win the game
frank grove
are we always taking 8 ball chat?
blissful cedar
I never get 8 ball value
But i also never take dice and never get dice
But i get dice more than i get mime
But i never EVER get mime and im the in hand demon
All i think abt when building is in hand and discard potential
frank grove
i dont think ive seen a mime in like 30+ runs
blissful cedar
And what i just played so im not a 1 trick pony
frank grove
i miss mime
frank grove
LMAO immediate 2 tarots 😭
frank grove
😭
opal pine
If I want to take blank what should I sell?
frank grove
you dont need to sell anything
blissful cedar
Its a voucher
I think its useless since u just started playing
But you gotta take it to make it not useless anyways
opal pine
you dont need to sell anything
oh I'm stupid
frank grove
you might as well get it to get closer to the 10 needed to get antimatter though
opal pine
immolate again?
blissful cedar
I would sigil
blissful cedar
Idk how to optimally play straights but i get rid of duplicates to make straights easier to play
frank grove
i remove middle cards like 8/6/7 first so you can play a-5 or a-10 a little easier
since like middle cards are usually less useful whilst, hack and sock and stuff are better
opal pine
any good ones here?
frank grove
what did sigil hit?
blissful cedar
Gold seals are good but again you already have money
opal pine
wait why do I have so many?
blissful cedar
I just dont want you to lose it looks bad bc fist doesnt synergize with ur deck too much but I'm indoctrinating you
opal pine
i don't remember
blissful cedar
Them 2s are more important
frank grove
how many tarots?
blissful cedar
1
frank grove
2
blissful cedar
0 really
frank grove
empress and gold
blissful cedar
But im.being hopeful
frank grove
blissful cedar
Reported for hacking
bleak hemlock
AAAH
aw
bleak hemlock
this could potentially be really good
we can beat the dragon together ahh joker deck 💀
frank grove
could take that instead of the fist... i know i love raised fist but i thik copying card sharp is nice
bleak hemlock
yea take the bp, drop the fist
opal pine
we can beat the dragon together ahh joker deck 💀
what kinda reference is that?
fallow saffron
Quite possibly my saltiest misclick lmfao. Least I got a laugh out of it
atomic trout
Same seed, lost again
bleak hemlock
what kinda reference is that?
frank grove
yeah
blissful cedar
Same seed, lost again
Why would you replay the same seed?
opal pine
NO NO YOU SELL ABSTRACT AND KEEP FIST
totally not suspicous
atomic trout
Why would you replay the same seed?
I wanted revenge
blissful cedar
Valid
frank grove
does anyone else feel like they get blackhole like 100x more often then soul even though they both have the same chance?
blissful cedar
Did you at least change the deck to better fit the shop?
opal pine
uhhh
blissful cedar
Yhere is no way soul and blackhole habe the same chance
frank grove
blissful cedar
You'll get a better feel for what to take as you play more
You general build makes sure that you win the game
frank grove
yeah its the same % thats so crazy
blissful cedar
I would take the hierophant
frank grove
you love hiero so much
blissful cedar
It's decent
blissful cedar
All.of the deck enhancements are decent
blissful cedar
Valid
Mr.straight doesnt have any real enhancement in his deck so im just advocating so he gets a feel of how powerful they can be
Speaking of straights
frank grove
yeah
jagged valve
Nutty
frank grove
this is where im at rn
jagged valve
bro wheres your scoring
Abstract
bleak hemlock
oh ante 3
frank grove
and hopefully some lucky cards soon?
jagged valve
and hopefully some lucky cards soon?
Yep
jagged valve
I will
jagged valve
Would be peam
bleak hemlock
Would be peam
i need to replay cyberpunk
atomic trout
Should have read the Boss..
bleak hemlock
such a shiny gay
frank grove
my 8 ball is betraying me
bleak hemlock
doesnt it always
frank grove
it was okay early on
brazen island
Deck idea, tell me how you'd balance it
Scattered Deck
Every card in your deck starts with a random enhancement.
Start with -$15
frank grove
i love blue joker !
plain mirage
the first few rounds would always be played similarly where u wont buy any joker and try to get gold seal value
jagged valve
I got nothing and am dying
jagged valve
i need to replay cyberpunk
What
brazen island
the first few rounds would always be played similarly where u wont buy any joker...
no seals, just enhancements
jagged valve
I got nothing and am dying
Man fuck balatro
plain mirage
mb i meant just gold card
jagged valve
/j.
frank grove
no seals, just enhancements
still you probably wouldnt buy any jokers first ante just cause gold cards and glass are very good
glass on a good flush with no levels wins first boss
languid heron
Þey should add negative interest so if youre at -5$ you actually lose a dollar from interest
brazen island
still you probably wouldnt buy any jokers first ante just cause gold cards and g...
yeah, the idea is to make econ harder to get going as the tradeoff, potentially limit your scaling. maybe the punishment needs to be higher
maybe start with -$25
frank grove
i think starting at -25 is so punishing
maybe disable tarots entirely
like no tarots in the shop
brazen island
i think starting at -25 is so punishing
with gold and lucky cards you have a lot of opportunities to make up for it, and your scoring for the first 2 antes is pretty much guaranteed
brazen island
like no tarots in the shop
ooh that's kind of interesting
purple seals would gain a lot of value then
brazen island
your deck idea is basically just jokerless on easy mode 😭
that's why it needs a crazy punishment!!
frank grove
maybe instead of punishing money early on, maybe double or triple price in shop
brazen island
maybe i need to go back to the drawing board...
brazen island
maybe instead of punishing money early on, maybe double or triple price in shop
ooh that's kind of interesting too
serene forge
I love Huge Flea
frank grove
disabling the shop discount vouchers
bleak hemlock
some straight do be bla-
ive been told by my lawyer that i cannot finish that sentence
brazen island
ok how about this as a challenge idea:
opal pine
which deck should I play now, yellow, nebula, magic, black or abandoned
frank grove
seems like you like playing straights, abandoned is pretty nice for that but any of them really
manic talon
which deck should I play now, yellow, nebula, magic, black or abandoned
black
brazen island
ok how about this as a challenge idea:
Start with Reroll Surplus and Reroll Glut
-1 Card slot in the shop
Reroll prices never reset
Buffoon Packs no longer appear in the shop
opal pine
seems like you like playing straights, abandoned is pretty nice for that but any...
no not in particular, I just happened to get shortcut then
manic talon
ok how about this as a challenge idea:
Start with Reroll Surplus and Reroll Glut...
inflation at home
brazen island
inflation at home
DAMMIT UR RIGHT
frank grove
its an interesting take on inflation
brazen island
never had an original thought in my life sadge
frank grove
you should take it for your collection
warped moth
is this good?
Heyy I know you! :happylandeline:
frank grove
i hate how burnt looks when its poly
brazen island
is this good?
that's a pair build if i've ever seen one, take it for collection and maybe you'll get a blue seal or gold card to copy
manic talon
is this good?
i mean, not really this early, unless you have a card with a good seal on it, nothing would be worth copying
blissful cedar
Should have read the Boss..
Hey twin... i wanted to play my straights but...
opal pine
Heyy I know you! :happylandeline:
hi Fytos!
frank grove
😭
opal pine
Heyy I know you! :happylandeline:
you mean 
?
warped moth
is this good?
When using DNA, it's worth remembering that overloading your deck with random cards will make it more difficult to find things you want. In Balatro, thinning your deck is usually the more "optimal" solution.
That being said, I don't think it matters this early and on a flush run. Also I think it's better to experiment with things yourself 😌
serene forge
redditor final boss
plain mirage
lmaoo
serene forge
Hey twin... i wanted to play my straights but...
punished for using bloodstone
warped moth
hi Fytos!<a:saintwave:1131190606958436422>
Hiiiiii :D
blissful cedar
Valid punishment
warped moth
you mean <:happylandeline:946115555805503519> ?
Smh -.-
I need my bappyline but I have no nitro
The excellent sequel to I have no mouth and I must scream
opal pine
quests got me my nitro
blissful cedar
We can do quests for nitro now
pliant jewel
doesnt it last like 3 days
blissful cedar
I paid for nitro just to cuss someone out but i got nitro basic and it didnt increase the text limit...
opal pine
doesnt it last like 3 days
yeah
but it's really easy to regain, anyway, I'm getting off topic
warped moth
I paid for nitro just to cuss someone out but i got nitro basic and it didnt inc...
Sending a hate post so big you have to send it in text file format
🙏
bleak hemlock
smol cutie patootie deck
opal pine
how does the shop work, if you buy a planet card can it no longer appear? and what about when you've bought every planet card in the shop?
atomic trout
Hey twin... i wanted to play my straights but...
Oh nooo
frank grove
it cant appear in the shop or in the packs as long as you dont have showman
bleak hemlock
how does the shop work, if you buy a planet card can it no longer appear? and wh...
yes if you have something in your setup it cannot show up UNLESS you got freddy mercury
frank grove
if you're holding it in your inventory
opal pine
which to take, which to take
bleak hemlock
which to take, which to take
bizniz card
frank grove
business probably its econ
opal pine
so if I buy these two then they will no longer appear, but the flush upgrade I bought earlier will still be able to appear because I used it immediately?
frank grove
yes
frank grove
yeah dna
lunar zealot
which to take, which to take
you take 8 ball here what
you have money already
get tarot gen
slow iris
"here, win"
frank grove
i hateee blueprint on gold stake
lunar zealot
"here, win"
might need another xmult to beat vv
You should be good
Move pants behind obelisk and scale it
use all your hands
opal pine
"here, win"
am I in clord or something
plain mirage
he already won
lunar zealot
'he'
plain mirage
mb she*
opal pine
I could generate so much money if I wanted to but I don't want to so what's best to drop in favour of blueprint? hanging chad?
frank grove
you could sell bizzniss now
opal pine
you could sell bizzniss now
I still have 4 antes to go though
frank grove
yeah but 120 dollars plus interest you'll be okay
opal pine
and hanging chad isn't doing much outside of buffing business
frank grove
yeah
opal pine
yeah but 120 dollars plus interest you'll be okay
alright then
opal pine
if I use blueprint on constellation will it gain levels twice as fast per planet or will it only duplicate the effect?
buoyant bison
I have a final I haven’t finished studying for tomorrow but I just beat plasma gold stake
frank grove
if I use blueprint on constellation will it gain levels twice as fast per planet...
only dupe the effect
buoyant bison
if I use blueprint on constellation will it gain levels twice as fast per planet...
does not level up
frank grove
so itll do the x mult but not the scaling
lunar zealot
if I use blueprint on constellation will it gain levels twice as fast per planet...
constell gains 0.1x mult
blueprint does not
blueprint copies the xmult of the xmult joker
amber forge
So close :(
shell dagger
immediately a 1.25x
blissful cedar
What is your favorite joker in the game rn
shell dagger
possibly more if you get lucky in the spectral
opal pine
What is your favorite joker in the game rn
constellation
frank grove
So close :(
avg plasma violet experience
frank grove
constellation
based
opal pine
immediately a 1.25x
yeah but that'll mean inflating my deck again
which I'm trying to avoid
blissful cedar
Its not the end of the world to inflate your deck
frank grove
yeah but that'll mean inflating my deck again
yeah you have card sharp already if you can play 2 flushes all the time then the x3 is better
blissful cedar
But its better to make your deck smaller
opal pine
it doesn’t matter with pairs
I'm doing flushes
shell dagger
oh
blissful cedar
Dont blow ur head up trying to be as optimal as possible
shell dagger
this is why we dont do flushes 
blissful cedar
I used to be a flush warrior let me see your deck
Flush > straight
I will die on this hill
frank grove
i must take the raised fist right?
frank grove
straights are like twice as difficult to pull as flushes are
opal pine
should I take this steel?
frank grove
but straights REALLY scale
opal pine
this is my deck
blissful cedar
Flushes turn into stronger hands than straights
blissful cedar
You can easily flip a flush build into a flush house build alot easier than a straight build into a straight flush and they scale fasted
frank grove
yeah
if you're going endless flushes are nice if you're just trying to beat a run straight levels are far better
blissful cedar
The availability and security flushes bring balance itbout compared to straights
opal pine
straights are a menace without shortcut, with it I find them easy enough I suppose
blissful cedar
this is my deck
You gotta take your tarots and get rid of ur 4 suits
You dont gotta turn it to 1 immediately but you should eventually aim.to do that
uncut slate
You can easily flip a flush build into a flush house build alot easier than a st...
by the time you could make a flush house flip your straight level should be high enough to be way better than flouse
blissful cedar
For now i would make sure your spades and diamonds get turned into either hearts or clubs but preferably clubs
lunar zealot
Just play pairs
lunar zealot
should I take this steel?
we're not going to play the game for you
blissful cedar
by the time you could make a flush house flip your straight level should be high...
Not always true depending on deck and luck you get Flush house really fast
lunar zealot
you win as long as you're not stupid
make money, use jupiter
feed your constellation
uncut slate
yeah just play pairs
frank grove
Not always true depending on deck and luck you get Flush house really fast
you can but playing it consistantly is not as easy early on
lunar zealot
you die to mouth, to needle, to wall, to violet vessel, to cerulean bell
find suit tarots and keep them in case you need to play a flush
frank grove
you can get flouse big blind if you get suit changer first shop doesnt mean you should
lunar zealot
you die to mouth, to needle, to wall, to violet vessel, to cerulean bell
to water as well
Again just don't be stupid
blissful cedar
How would water take him out
lunar zealot
and you'll be fine
blissful cedar
Is that discards 0
frank grove
i think so
lunar zealot
How would water take him out
if they can't draw a flush
serene forge
I hate Bloodstone
opal pine
we're not going to play the game for you
fair, I'll try to stop asking questionns
pliant jewel
okay well it's not like you shouldn't ask questions for help period
just don't do it for like literally everything
frank grove
used invis.. now i have two of the stone guys .. here i come 100 deck size
lunar zealot
used invis.. now i have two of the stone guys .. here i come 100 deck size
What is bro doing
absolute cinema
frank grove
the stone build of all time
pliant jewel
stone joker and hologram nowhere to be found
opal pine
should I sell businnes to add this to my collection?
I've got a shit ton of money anyway
opal pine
1.4
uncut slate
used invis.. now i have two of the stone guys .. here i come 100 deck size
raise
opal pine
What the fuck are you doing then
should I ve been rerolling constantly? shouldn't I do that when I'm either struggling or just before the last boss
lunar zealot
your constellation has x1.4 mult
what are you saving money for
next run?
overspending is bad but so is underspending
especially when your scaling joker isn't scaled
this type of behavior loses high stake runs because of a lack of sense of urgency
reroll and use planets
opal pine
first of all, this is low stakes, second of all scaling my constellation when I don't need to might mean I finish each blind in one hand, while I'm finishing it in two hands now, and two hands will scale my supernova instead, third of all, that wasn't really my question, should I sell businnes to add an undiscovered joker to my collection?
frank grove
how its going:
fallow fog
how its going:
rock
lunar zealot
first of all, this is low stakes, second of all scaling my constellation when I ...
first of all, wow, okay sure let's go with that; second of all, put your supernova after your constellation and card sharp so the +mult triggers after the xmult, third of all it's your run and i'm not going to decide for you what you clearly want to do anyway
lunar zealot
how its going:
bulwark moment
pliant jewel
how its going:
5 of a kind stone
frank grove
god i wish that worked
atomic trout
Can you do a flush Stone?
atomic trout
Damn. I wish it had a way to Stone Flush haha
atomic trout
There should be a joker that does that, Stone Cards convert to playing hands, hehe
frank grove
that would actually be very fun
atomic trout
Three of a Stone, Five of a Stone?
lunar zealot
There should be a joker that does that, Stone Cards convert to playing hands, he...
Vampire technically
pliant jewel
how would it know what playing hand to convert to
frank grove
Vampire technically
true
atomic trout
Vampire technically
That sucks.
lunar zealot
how would it know what playing hand to convert to
Make it all of them
frank grove
vampire would GO CRAZY RN
lunar zealot
play 5 stone cards to benefit from every single planet simultaneously
pliant jewel
black hole finally useful
atomic trout
There should be a Medusa Joker, playing cards become stones, oh god no!
frank grove
black hole finally useful
😭
frank grove
There should be a Medusa Joker, playing cards become stones, oh god no!
that would be kinda sick like midas mask but only useful when you have an idol
atomic trout
that would be kinda sick like midas mask but only useful when you have an idol
I like that idea. But there is a Stone Joker that does add a new Stone Card each round.
frank grove
yeah i know
atomic trout
Or maybe a new seal? 😄
fallow fog
Damn. I wish it had a way to Stone Flush haha
asteroid planet card
atomic trout
asteroid planet card
The what now?
lunar zealot
There should be a Medusa Joker, playing cards become stones, oh god no!
this with vampire would be like shitty midas mask
atomic trout
this with vampire would be like shitty midas mask
What could possibly go wrong?"
fallow fog
idk im waffling
lunar zealot
Well no bc it's unspecified to be played and scored
fallow fog
rock
opal pine
is troubadour good?
frank grove
can be
frank grove
ill take it only to find blue seal or gold cards
or if im like playing like mime baron
opal pine
with this and constellation it might be pretty good
frank grove
yeah you have quite a bit of gold and blue seal
and you're probably only playing two hands anyway
atomic trout
Ewww... my Tier list on Boss Blinds. Hehe
I should had put the Eye on first, my personal nemesis.
opal pine
ow shit
lunar zealot
Ewww... my Tier list on Boss Blinds. Hehe
tooth can hurt significantly
lunar zealot
Plant does almost nothing
frank grove
plant only does if you are photo chadder
atomic trout
tooth can hurt significantly
I spend all my money before the Ox, Credit Card gives me my debt removed
atomic trout
Plant does almost nothing
The Plant only sucks when I have Photochad going
lunar zealot
I really don't care about that interaction
frank grove
based based based
lunar zealot
The Plant only sucks when I have Photochad going
you can beat plant with photochad
atomic trout
you can beat plant with photochad
But, I can't take the picture... 🙁
opal pine
should have read the boss blind
well the thing is, I bought a joker that said, disables boss blind ability when sold, so I sold while in the shop thinking that's how it worked, but it would probably only work if you sell it during the blind
frank grove
ahhh
atomic trout
well the thing is, I bought a joker that said, disables boss blind ability when ...
Chichot
lunar zealot
you can beat plant with photochad
case in poiny
atomic trout
well the thing is, I bought a joker that said, disables boss blind ability when ...
Luchador is sold to disable the boss, wrong Joker.
lunar zealot
anyone who can't beat plant with photochad genuinely should get better at the game
atomic trout
anyone who can't beat plant with photochad genuinely should get better at the ga...
Sometimes you have to take desperate measures.
frank grove
anyone who can't beat plant with photochad genuinely should get better at the ga...
as a previous but not reformed photo chad spammer, based
opal pine
Luchador is sold to disable the boss, wrong Joker.
yeah and I did sell, but misunderstood how it worked, it only works when selling it during the blind, not beforehand
atomic trout
Huh..
frank grove
hmm
atomic trout
Trying to get the lowest score imaginable
spiral cairn
Trying to get the lowest score imaginable
get 2s
only play 2s
and do it on red deck
frank grove
black no? cause less hands
spiral cairn
oh yeah my bad
proper flame
NEVER GIVE UP! A FULL HOUSE RUN IS ALWAYS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER TO BRING THE JOY BACK TO YOUR LIFE
spiral cairn
NEVER GIVE UP! A FULL HOUSE RUN IS ALWAYS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER TO BRING THE J...
two pair runs >
proper flame
full house is like two pair but cooler
proper flame
atomic trout
My best run, lol
bold star
Straight flushes, msotly glush as backup, so which one sack, dice, or space joker
slow iris
yeah sure just give me another free win
opal pine
first of all, wow, okay sure let's go with that; second of all, put your superno...
I'm sorry the "it's low stakes" comment was stupid, also thannk you for the tip to put constellation behind the others, even though the run failed later anyway. also, more importantly, sorry for the passive aggresion, that was absolutely unnecessary
lunar zealot
you lost because you lost 107 dollars rather than spending it on getting stronger
watch drspectred
lost vault
meow meow balatro
fallow fog
Straight flushes, msotly glush as backup, so which one sack, dice, or space joke...
do u have lucky cards in deck
pliant jewel
I'm sorry the "it's low stakes" comment was stupid, also thannk you for the tip ...
how did you lose that run
genuinely
like im not being condescending im genuinely curious
fallow fog
other than polychrome, why do u have paradolia
pliant jewel
unless you mean like after ante 8
bold star
do u have lucky cards in deck
Just some aces, won anyway
fallow fog
how did you lose that run
im guessing violet vessel
bold star
Sell acrobat, or luchador? or keep luchador and acrobat
pliant jewel
im guessing violet vessel
it was white stake, bro had supernova, card sharp, constellation and blueprint
fallow fog
Sell acrobat, or luchador? or keep luchador and acrobat
definitely take constellation
honestly sell throwback
bold star
2x though
bold star
So, i can farm it
fallow fog
how much does it contribute to scoring
pliant jewel
well it is the only xmult
bold star
Only + mult,
pliant jewel
+mult i mean
fallow fog
Sell acrobat, or luchador? or keep luchador and acrobat
i wld say get rid of luchador
scoring shouldnt be an issue anymore
bold star
Although i have level 5 pair,
fallow fog
well it is the only xmult
the planets wld be high enough maybe after two rounds especially since constellation incentive
bold star
13 usage
fallow fog
luc it is
throwback wld be stuck at x2 cause definitely shouldnt be skipping with constellation
fallow fog
it was white stake, bro had supernova, card sharp, constellation and blueprint
the constellation was x1.4
non existent
pliant jewel
if only they had the means to make the constellation bigger...
slow iris
murder
bold star
2 blue seal aces (deagb) or high priestess?
dark cairn
glad to know that painted deck is shit
maybe i should do nebula deck or zodiac deck gold stake first
pliant jewel
look at the following message
no offense but there are a lot of things you could've done to prevent that outcome
bold star
Nvm, both found at both packs
pliant jewel
glad to know that painted deck is shit
it's not
opal pine
no offense but there are a lot of things you could've done to prevent that outco...
yeah I know
dark cairn
is ouija viable on painted deck
proper flame
Theres better ways to find direction than using ouija on painted but its more viable there than on other decks I guess
proper flame
wait is ouija the rank or the suit one
frank grove
rank
proper flame
yeah wiki says its rank
frank grove
its more useful but like -1 hand size is usually not worth it unless you already have a blue seal and can just get 5oak or flush five levels immediately
proper flame
problem is that theres a few ranks that are basically useless and using ouija and getting like a 7 is almost completely useless
frank grove
oh yeah
proper flame
like sure it works with 5oak and any of the "The Trio" and etc. jokers but its just too random unless you find it in the first couple shops
frank grove
its a 1/13 gamble i guess
proper flame
your best rolls are probably 2s for Wee to go crazy, 6s for free deck fixing and spectral cards if you find sixth sense, and 9s to generate money if you find cloud 9, and probably another rank I cant remember
pliant jewel
the -1 hand size is too big of a drawback
frank grove
on painted when you alreayd have +2 its not as bad though
opal pine
is this voucher even any good?
pliant jewel
yes
frank grove
Yes
pliant jewel
one of the best actually
opal pine
but -1 hand?
frank grove
gives you extra time to scale jokers, find jokers, make money, deck fix
opal pine
well alright then
pliant jewel
you get an entire ante to do things
opal pine
btw do any of the shop cards look like anything in this run, running with flushes
frank grove
unless you need the extra hand to draw your hand or find purple or whatever its usually worth taking
opal pine
btw do any of the shop cards look like anything in this run, running with flushe...
I don't think so but maybe someone else does
frank grove
death just to get another of the suit you're building towards
opal pine
I already have two blue seals is another worth it or no?
frank grove
yeah to make it easier to find, or if you get crystal ball
opal pine
over a red seal 6 of diamonds? (diamonds is what I'm working towards)
frank grove
probably red seal you can just throw any enhancement on it
opal pine
should I dupe the red seal or a blue seal? (with death)(kinda the same question, but if I want to dupe the red seal I should wait for an enhancement)
frank grove
kinda just your choice, i usually wait for enhancement
opal pine
is this joker any good?
most of my jokers are kinda useless right now anyway
outside of rocket and red card
frank grove
its good but you probably dont need it
opal pine
what about this one?
frank grove
baron is very good, sometimes difficult to build into, but you have a lot of money you just need high card or pair levels and then lots and lots of kings but its a lot of deck fixing
opal pine
I'm going for flushes though, and it's already level 8
I suppose I do have a lot of time but
frank grove
yeah
opal pine
what were your thoughts? you were typing something else?
lunar zealot
what about this one?
Unfathomably mid joker
slow iris
is this voucher even any good?
sometimes
lunar zealot
its gimmick is you can get scores so high it breaks the game
and yet baron is all things considered a bad strategy 80% of the time
if not more
frank grove
yeah like its super super annoying to build into, you have to find mime sometime soon after it, but if you have high card levels already it can be good
opal pine
I should try building into a different hand build next time, it's just that it's so hard to start off
frank grove
yeah, flushes do get you hooked when you just start playing
lunar zealot
just play pairs
frank grove
or two pair
opal pine
is death better or my hand planet? (because fool)
frank grove
death
opal pine
is temperance or red card leveling better?
frank grove
depends on how much you need the money
opal pine
not really
frank grove
then take the scaling i guess
lunar zealot
is temperance or red card leveling better?
It depends
lunar zealot
is death better or my hand planet? (because fool)
it depends
opal pine
oooh shit, if I hold on to death for red seal with enhancement, I won't get two planet cards now, but otherwise I'd probably use it on blue seal
frank grove
could just use it on the red seal now
frank grove
yeah it really doesnt matter right now
lunar zealot
certainly not speculative rough gem
opal pine
it's probably best to skip but what do you people think?
lament bronze
it's probably best to skip but what do you people think?
Emperor and pray for anything actually worthwhile
Devil would have gone amazingly in any card you actually want to use
dark cairn
yep painted deck is dogshit
fuck this im doing nebula deck and zodiac deck first
at least nebula starts with an op voucher
lament bronze
Wasn't your playstyle about mag dumping into one hand
dark cairn
yes
lament bronze
Just get Saturn bro who needs any jokers on painted with Saturn scaling
opal pine
mag dumping?
dark cairn
i did and then it refused to draw the cards i needed 10 games in a row 
lament bronze
mag dumping?
Emptying an entire magazine/spamming
dark cairn
Just get Saturn bro who needs any jokers on painted with Saturn scaling
you need a lot of tarot cards though and conveniently they never show up when you need them
lament bronze
magazine?
Nono it's a saying
Not balatro exclusive just a way of saying you used a lot of something
dark cairn
you also need to get those saturn cards in the first place
white zodiac
call me illiterate the way i can’t read
lament bronze
Spam the shit out of Saturn since one of them already clears up the first ante
dark cairn
and of course when its the most important thats the one time blue seals never show up again
or the card in general
lament bronze
call me illiterate the way i can’t read
Balala player
dark cairn
not even losing because of painted deck's -1 joker slot
im just losing because the game is a bitch and wont draw the cards i need
white zodiac
why not take a break
lucid gazelle
woo, managed to pull it off barely...couldn't get the hand size vouchers to save my life, but then the juggle tag just happened to pop up.
Round 69, no less.
opal pine
awhhh yeah!
gray plaza
Has anyone here ever seen an unseeded nat negative copy joker
white zodiac
mhm
frank grove
probably once or twice
gray plaza
Don't think I've ever seen it
I want a seed that has either one of them nat negative in a pack before ante 3
white zodiac
run in review
one of the most annoying runs to experience
gray plaza
run in review
Half joker as moral support
white zodiac
half joker was the only reason i survived the last 2 antes
frank grove
pairs 🤤
white zodiac
among too slow of scaling
frank grove
its gold stake
white zodiac
and ig thank you vagabond
opal pine
I already have 4 blue seals is a 5th worth it over +3 mult?
frank grove
depends
white zodiac
context hat
frank grove
what red card is at, and if you're drawing the blue seals consistantly
white zodiac
which diminishing return is greater
opal pine
what red card is at, and if you're drawing the blue seals consistantly
+30 and yes, I'm drawing them consistently
frank grove
then probably just another +3
white zodiac
what you add is permanently in your deck
frank grove
using a death just replaces a card though
opal pine
bottom decking?
white zodiac
not drawing them
frank grove
what is your hand level at rn anyway ?
opal pine
lvl 17
actually 18
is this better than hallu since, I have fortune teller too?
I still have time to scale steels
white zodiac
gem goes
frank grove
hallu gives you tarots which helps build fortune teller but you also have rocket and gem and also like 100 dollars so gem goes here probably
frank grove
its only like +10 dollars at full 5 card red seals, and you have no retriggers other than red seals its really not that much money
opal pine
well to be fair, I do also have seed money
frank grove
yeah, gem bad
white zodiac
hallulu is enabling joker scaling for 2 jokers
frank grove
yeah cause you can skip more tarot packs
opal pine
I didn't know I triggered a flush house
awww that's sad, I can't just use it on one of these and then skip
oh well the purple seal is probably better anyway
is this voucher any good with this build?
alright I think I'm going to win no matter what I do now
unless I sell my jokers of course
why do I keep getting good jokers
I don't even know which one i'd sell
white zodiac
skipped the blackboard 
daring widget
on white stake u can build whatever and win tbh
white zodiac
it’s mostly about pattern recognition for future content going forward so you have less of a hard time in harder stakes
opal pine
yeah I won, with a lvl 28 flush
white zodiac
oh cool doc lost a gs run on blue deck of all decks
frank grove
is that his last video?
floral mural
take a guess on the hand being played in this run
frank grove
probably not straights
opal pine
I wonder what I should play or do now
pine drum
hushed bison
tranquil cedar
this some bullshit
hardy fable
Chicot to the victory
I carried
unreal mortar
worn pewter
theres this voucher that -1 my ante and -1 my hand
is there a benefit in minusing my ante or is this voucher just a troll
finite prism
minusing the ante allows you to scale things for a bit longer, like you get an extra ante's worth of building up green joker or runner etc etc
worn pewter
minusing the ante allows you to scale things for a bit longer, like you get an e...
Oh fair enough
i dont really have a card to build up
finite prism
plus if you need more time to sort out your jokers you get 3 extra shops
before the blinds amp up too quick. i will admit i've done that a fair few times on higher stakes
hazy epoch
can magic trick voucher add "enhanced cards" for drivers liscence
tawdry lark
i did a thing the other day
teal thunder
lmao
heady narwhal
is there a benefit in minusing my ante or is this voucher just a troll
extra time but it's usually not worth it imo
-1 hand is extremely bad
tawdry lark
-1 hand is almost certainly a death sentence if you do it on black deck
worn pewter
-1 hand is almost certainly a death sentence if you do it on black deck
what's a black deck
worn pewter
extra time but it's usually not worth it imo
Yeah fair enough
scenic leaf
floral mural
extra time but it's usually not worth it imo
a late heiro on most decks is fine enough or if you have like grabber or something
early heiro as anything but desperation is terrible
lost vault
nya
heady narwhal
i'd say dusk instead of invis yeah
heady narwhal
riff raff and ceremonial dagger would go crazy together
aside from the thing where you can get 6/5 joker slots i dob't think there's much of a synergy
neat ore
How good is 5 copies of to the moon?
fallow fog
25-120dollars good
wicked sonnet
i'd say dusk instead of invis yeah
i took dusk over bloodstone cuz it straight up improved my scoring and still meant i had 3/4 good hits on invis
ended up copying brainstorm 🔥
fallow fog
good choice i guess?
wicked sonnet
haven't had showman for like five blinds
i sold the showman for that invis on ante 10
and petroglyph afterwards too
neat ore
How good is 5 copies of uhhhhh erosion ig
fallow fog
How good is 5 copies of uhhhhh erosion ig
if u have a 1 card deck, max is +510 mult
neat ore
if u have a 1 card deck, max is +510 mult
Nah let's say I have a 30 card deck
obsidian patrol
unborn apex
and now just got this shop which i'm confused about
one trippy shop
no showman and its like that