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not this again
breaking news: the moon found dead with 27 bullet wounds
its all coming together
also come on its ante 1 you're not gonna die take the todo list
well
You know that pokemon meme where itās like āwhatās wrong with this pictureā and it shows level -8 squirtle named charmander with a discolored sprite and negative hp
Thatās how this image feels
the hook is actually the worst boss blind ever
this run shouldn't work by all means but somehow does
backseating at its finest
taking stm to the hook š š š
yes
technically it helps you find queens 
rtb placement is crazy to me
didnt help much in the run where i got it
i mean grimbo is in the "carried 3+ runs" thing and rtb is basically better grimbo
no the hell it aint
it isnt as punishing and its way easier to build
not playing faces isnāt hard
One message removed from a suspended account.
i mean it is punishing in the sense that the run instantly ends when you accidentally play a face card
which i totally havent done on several occasions
the plant is sm worse
ive died to hook more than plant tbh
discard voucher or riff raff
riff
at minimum, you can get decent sell value and be off of it, at best u get photochad
wait hol up you took the wrong joker
and then die to the plant...?
and then have easy early game + you have chad
like there are so much better things to get from riff raff here than photochad
rebate
any econ really
any scaling mult
a rebate would be nice
yeah
you know, scoring that doesnt die if a specific boss show up
but its black stake lmao
Js get an early win con, and get a strong eco
Since theres no rentals to worry abt
brainstorm
then js have a big enough war chest to be able to either beat or get around the boss blind
I hate Bloodstone
Gamodd todd
Should I take invis?
for the funi you could
what should I dupe/sell it for
I just finished an entire black deck run and not once did it occur to me that I have an extra joker slot
i had a glorious flouse build earlier
YO WHAT THE FUCK
What would you guys pick here i donāt really have a build yet
Finally beat jokerless! My strategy: Get a suit debuff boss ante 1 (guarantees the suit wonāt be debuffed later), scale and build for flushes, pick a suit to attack when destroying and converting to your protected suit, add steels and build for economy where you can.
Also youāll need some luck on your side, thatās just how it is. I got 2 lucky card money pops on round 1 lol
I always take baseball card
half joker
half + bbc
half and baseball looking juicy
one of my favorite builds ever lowk
at best you get squoker and rtb
The Team
uhh i got balatro of g2a because it was literally 5 dollars cheaper, was that a mistake?
like i mean getting it off of g2a
whats g2a
a game key website
w
the only mistake is not supporting the game as much but dont be too harsh on yourself
its ok š
i was thinking of gifting it secretely to a friend as soon as i get my pocket money because i cant buy it again
the space build is very easy and powerful yh
ok tanxš
oooh boy...
I just found that beautiful golden ticket but that boss might ruin everything š¢
balala
Sell one photo?
and this is why bloodstone is the goat š£ļø
am i crazy or do venus and mars show up in celestial packs more often than any other planet
ur crazy
I mean... is it? I can't retrigger and I'll have to play flushes
the malevolent telescope voucher:
^
- the inconspicuous planet cards in the shop already that cannot spawn twice without showman
mythic shop pull
Tips?
whats your deck lookin like
Nothing too crazy I need to start fixing, canāt get my hands on a red seal
i mean you can try it, but deckfixing with trading card takes long since its 1 card per round
Yeah ig, itās good money tho on the side either way with blueprint, so I might take it, no need for two photos atm
i died
BASEBALL o
when you have dna trading card is not necesary
specially with a blueprint
when you have blueprint photochad another photo is not necessary
thank you sly joker for being holographic
Oh Jimbo, calling me an ass.
Delicious eggs
goated fucking dice
Did anyone else get C++ by having jokers roster ride off of better ones?
wait can't i just
use steam link to play balatro on my phone
and with mods and shit
stake stickers on vouchers?
isn't that how it's supposed to be done?
I try to use each joker for its intended use but I just thought 'ah, what not' this run because I got a triboulet
mod
me pulling up to ante 8 with jimbo, ramen, runner, hallucation and square joker
AAAAH BLOODSTONE
i need to know combos bro
oh peak sly joker
I've been playing for two days and still havent won any
I just got shoot the moon and crazy joker to gold stake
might try the steam link thingy
Shoot the moon is absolutely fucking ass
Damn is this worth taking
na
uhhmmmm pairs ig
also combos arenāt everything! theres also good decision making
I just discovered 5 of a kind today toi
Wym nah
It doesnāt suck
its just C+ tier
that's like the only way to do it?
i'd say stm is b tier or so. it's my favorite joker
Tips?
it's not the best early, and it's not the best late, but it works in both cases which gives it a pretty useful niche imo
I mean completely carried
Because there's synergies or neutral but some just have anti synergies like stm with trib
you can pick it up in a2 because you need immediate scoring, then you can build into it if you don't find any other scalers
genuinely need tips for this game bro
yuppp
So I used trib to get stm to roster ride
What's ur deck look like?
that's not really an antisynergy imo
antisynergy would be like parei + rtb
YORICK
obviously getting a cryptid would do but on the likely chance i dont, what are my steps to NANEINF here
Maybe sell dna and take it
What should I hope it dupes?
There are degrees of anti synergy
Since I didn't have my deck fixed I needed queens as well as kings
And +13 mult doesn't scale as faster as exponential mult
why would you need kings for trib
Cause my deck wasn't fixed I just said
shoutout to dusk for being the only reason im not dead
holy shit yall are doing complex stuff
should i sell anything before or just leave as is and hope
Is he worth it on checkered deck gold stake?
yes
with both jokers you can win
No
Will Gros Michel killed by Ceremonial Dagger trigger Cavendish appearing?
š¤
It has to go extinct naturally
If it's a temporary then it won't trigger its ability if it times out
so I take it or not
You can't bet on getting paintbrush
okay but flushes are still possible no?
Try to deckfix for seance or sixth sense; sell mime if you find one of those
I'll try
Yeah but I don't bet on having discards to make them on gold stake
Can an Eternal Joker protect others from Ceremonial Dagger
i save scummed and it duped golden ticket, should i sell ticket then try again?
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nice
just put dagger on far right when starting the blind
Lol try it yeah
riiiiight
This feels safest
If you don't want to get a cryptid, try to get as much money as physically possible
it duped blueprint thatās fine right
Best hit
Blueprint is the best joker in the whole game
ok issue is now is no econ
lets gooooooo
iāll just use gold cards until can find rebate or somthing
Chicoat becomes Chigoat if he reverses boss blinds
its the worst option
infinite hands
I wish
i have no mental energy to decipher if its bait or not
if its not a balanced deck then yes its a bait
its never to right play for ante 8 play
which is what you should assume unless told otherwise
My luck has been crazy today. Iāve gotten 3 legendaries in unseeded runs
surely you would be kind to post the seed
donāt worry i always take ss of these big runs
I record them then never post them
decent baron mime one if you are curious, just watch out for plant š„²
If only Chicot came as a nat negative
im scared guys when am i gonna start saccing
i think its really funny just how exponential the scaling is in balatro
like if you arent abusing some meta perkeo + observatory
or like baron mime
or have a fatass idol setup
you arent making it past like ante 13
Exponential scaling works like that irl too
well yes
Millionaires vs Billionaires
i mean how its applied in balatro
People underestimate exponential scaling
How else would it be applied? With 1.1^x?
i think youre missing my point but its oaky
it's almost never wraith
if you get a third rare joker then baseball is practically useless
i'd just medium or skip here
okay thanks
im crine son i got mime, ecto, triple red seal steel king i thought finally an endless āš¼š
chasing after endless leaves u dead ig or sum
and do I skip all the blinds to preserve turtle bean?
next boss is the manacle š
so trying out the stream
performs better than the phone yes
but there are some hiccups
grass is green
tips?
show your deck
itās in photo under
i mean as good of a connection that my shitty 4G can get
oh yeah sorry
no worries
for me rebate is better
yeah i think it makes more when i dupe it and discard the glass kings and keep golden ones for regular $
iāll keep thinning deck
yeah
and trying to get a fricken red seal
i
i
i
i just got more land in the metaverse
now im getting payed cash with atlas earth
networking's too slow for streaming
gotta love levels
really sad
that spectral pack had déjà vu
should i get golden ticket then now that i have retrigger or is rebate fine
a steam deck would be better than whatever the hell steam link does
holy two pair
got poly micheal to endless from ante 1
40 Mbps
golden would be better per king
i feel like that's enough to stream me playing Balatro right
yeah 6$ vs 5
ok iāll do that then, now just need to dupe up that red seal and should be chilling
how is 40 Mbps not enough to play balatro from my phone
yeah the 4G is somehow 4 times slower but i can still use my wifi
holy joker layout
square
franƧais?
constellation is such a slept on joker
y e s
cool moi aussi
aaaah génial ça fait du bien à voir :DD
does anyone know if the completionist+ achievment is bugged on xbox?
@mental bloom aussi est franƧais
true
true with astronomer
yeaj
i can confirm being a french person
im not french
oui
@lunar zealot would agree
even only 2 uncommons give 2.25x mult
he... he's gone... ante 9 round 29.. rip..
You win some, you lose some
if i dont pull antimatter , is double ecto naneinf doable?
Mr. Bones coming in clutch
cuz this is where im at and i really need that 4th copy joker but they really dont seem to wanna give me anti
MR BONES BEST JOKER IN THE GAME
skill issue :3
what
I dont think so
maybe I should have gotten rid of two pair joker
should I use wraith now?
or after the round
I think I need that x1.5 mult from bbc still
XD NAT negative diet cola
Never abbreviate baseball card
why
Don't do it
BBC = british broadcasting channel
Don't
okkkk
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magic deck is in my top 3
You can always wraith and hope for smth good
I get rid of sixth sense I guess
Yea
or bbc
:(
baseball
What'd you get?
holy shit it's photochad
It's not worth it
ok
No ecto?
Also surprisingly high soul dam
It's very good, but you can't abuse it.
Nah
Ecto is good a lot of the time
Well
Depends on what your going for
And you also need to have your build already assembled.
High card ecto is goated
Dam
Furthermore, on that account I played much more gold stake than endless
Think about that
Dam
negative dagger is mmmm
Haven't got past blue stake yet so Ig I can't be talking rn
I'm a fucking idiot
this run is going wild icl
I pressed "unlock all" because I thought it would do nothing because I've gotten Completionist
Well it did do nothing
But I couldn't get achievements now
So I restarted my account
But I mean
naneinf sooon
Guess I'm preparing myself for switiching to an another device
You should have created another account last
Rerolled for the plant. It was fun while it lasted.
And unlock all
hopefully gonna hit my first here i really dont know how i could possibly fuck this up besides just not having enough money
if i pull observatory its basically locked i think
I don't see it as very likely, unless it has a lot of cryptids
I love Rough Gem
they just need a bp/bs and burger
#mrboneshate
genuine question why not
just too poor?
this mf
nah you have prime naneinf setup
I gueas depends if you already have retcon or not
He would if you would've died
You must be doing more than just e87, it seems to me.
ok yea ez
You need 4 brainstorms or blueprints (at least one blueprint to have two Mimes)
yup still hunting that in store, this is where im at rn but obv i wanna drop a baron/mimie for one
And then there's the one who gives you more help, whose name I can't remember in English.
And DNA
It absolutely must be a blueprint or Brainstorm; having two barons is not acceptable.
4 gold kings + 5 steel = E74 as of rn
Because you have to double the Joker's effect that gives you more hands
And play in the final blind of the snake game
might be enough if you get observatory though
that fucking blind that i hate
Man...
So you need to have a baron, a mime, a dna, the one that gives you more hands, 4 blueprints or Brainstorms (one must be a blueprint)
yeah ive spent a very large amount trying to get my last copy
what did you do
This is not the time throwback you suck
and the game just really hates me
The observatory takes a long time to achieve the same score
I was curious what would unlock all do if I have gotten completionist
hf unlocking again marble joker
At the point in the game you're at, I don't think it will ever be naneinf
It just locked me out of future achievements
How do you do it again
tbf it does warn you
You can do the bean bug
I mean yeah but I thought it would just lock me out of the completionist achievement
In ante 16 or 24
Turns out all of the text is red
i'm just dumb it is already unlocked
it's stone joker
not even close man wtf am i saying
would it make sense to replace my non negative mime with burglar if it shows up in any of my next few shops so that i dont have to risk not rolling it after ante 24?
you still need antimatter anyways
I got it
nvm
With 2000 in money, in theory you should have it. But it might not be.
you got mad cryptids
ah
If negative mime is natural
how much are they adding ?
It can be naneinf
it was an ecto, i couldnt find antimatter and was starting to get in a really bad spot so i just used it incase i never found anti
showman was nat
5 copy + mime + baron + dna ante 22
should i replace one of my copies with burglar if it comes around prior to ante 24 or just hope i roll after?
Legendary joker idea! It would be based off Archibald Armstrong and would be basically Mr bones but won't be consumed and ya gotta have a score at least 40% of the required one! I thought it's a cool concept since Archibald Armstrong is known for avoiding really bad situations what ya guys think
x2.5 mult
What
dont take burglar before a24 tbh
bro should i sell and roll for baron too
"prevents death if round score is at least 40% of required chips" ā "x2.5 mult"
Yeah basically
If i dont have dna should i just be going for polychrome instead of glass
except you can lose up to $9/ante from blind rewards
How do you have 700 lmao
wdym
Nah it will give ya reward money
red seal gold with golden ticket and blueprint is $48 per card (with chad)
It's a legendary after all
that seems a little weak for a legendary imo even if it lets you generate more value per round by playing all your hands
Alright
do i go for the baron/mime now?
Hmmmm I'll think of a different concept
700 dollars
still better than triboulet though!!!šÆ
also it'd probably be very powerful for endless. like mr bones
golden ticket
tipssss
you might as well sell canio i guess
WHAT THE FUCK WHY CANT I GET THIS LUCK ON A NORMAL FUCKING RUN (on a knifes edge challenge deck)
canio is x12 is it worth selling?
What if it gained 1x mult for every 5 hands ya play? Kinda like a yorick but different
i mean if you are going for baron anyways, your other option is selling gticket but then you are not finding anything anyways
ok fair
@quartz ember what about now is idol worth š
iām lowk playing more high card although my flush 5 is like level 15
if you are fixed then you obviously take, if not fixed then you obviously dont take
replacing photo for now is ok
I assume you are scoring fine
95% is risky i think
ew
what was old 8ball?
lowk is š
Hang on now, I think I'm on something
do you mean 95% of your cards are the same?
the plant will find you
plant doesn't counter parking
it doesnt?????
or midas or faceless
sorry discord on my ipad isnāt working
Would baseball benefit me at all here
you lose 1 round of value generation it's not a big deal
question
it's not like you die
what happens if you strength a stone card
its rank goes up by one
the idol will def mishit before you are fixed
ok iāll keep rolling for baron for now
if you un-stone it it'll be one rank higher than it was before
plant doesnāt counter jokers that donāt directly score you points for the blind requirements
yeah but less money = bad
do u mean like the bone glitch
money with midas and faceless and parking on plant = money without midas and faceless and parking on plant
or is there a mr bones tech i dont know abt
In comparison for completely losing a run.
Hi.
$3 rebate is literally still good.
thats 6$ per round initially that with deckfixing can grow significantly higher
i mean
i'm a big fan of the "you draw about half your deck" heuristic
k whatās the logic of making rebate cheaper
it's pretty useful
Not so fun fact: golden joker's base price is $6 while rebate is $5.
not so fact either
yeah because rebate requires
isnt golden joker literally 6
it pays for itself
rebate is $4 as well
Fuck whatever.
youāre thinking of his funny counterpart
o
ITS NOT $5???
it's $4
am i stupid?
Point is, it's fucked up that gjoker is more expensive than rebate.
cloud nine?
also did you know that cavendish is cheaper than gros michel
it makes sense
yeah because cavendish is the final form
Doesn't.
i mean that it makes sense that golden joker costs 6
the glow is it expelling the cost from its body
rebates problem isnt its price its its overtuning
it's so funny to me that one of the five $6 common jokers is fortune teller of all things
gj doesnāt require work or any sort of mini game task which is reasonable
it gave $3 it didnt cost $3
but yeah $3 value rebate is fine
not so fun fact: reserved parking costs $6 and rebate costs $4
anyways $3 rebate would still be fine
parking is based like that
That's very messed up.
both are minigame jokers but rebate is a way easier and more rewarding minigame
How much is redcard, $5?
damn youd expect 6$ to be reserved for like a scaling joker like ride the bus or supernova
same price as ttm
Econs are busted insane.
not a non scaling joker like fortune teller
Even as little as gj.
im not saying wee joker isnt worth $8 its just funny its worth as much as obelisk
slash reference
$4 is $4
both are worth 8 dollars
both are the pinnacles of their own scoring category
I think loyalty card should be removed
I disagree with seltzer.
why should loyalty card be removed
and yh I agree with seltzer uncommon
loyalty kaard is just kinda meh
idk, its not fun to use, its so inconsistent, you have to plan how many hands to use to utilize it best
i think loyalty card should be patched so that it doesn't break on eye/mouth/psychic/heart but otherwise it's awesome
bad joker idea
yeah im with niMsi
rare jokers are usually designed to be long term plans
Loyalty card is interesting in concept but it could be nice with a small tweak, just make it somewhat viable, I like that it's thematically fitting at least
Jmibo's infamous move.
outside of like i guess burnt joker
campfire?????
yes
campfire is very much a long term joker
i keep burnt joker around for a long time
burnt joker is the GOAT
Hrt, campfire, blueprint/bs.
you keep ot around to keep getting levels
do not diss him
me too but usually thats just because nothing better has come along
i think when it isn't broken it's good enough at what it does
prolly ticket right
Some rares that are insta value.
Meh, Some Threes
Average out all probabilities
(etc: Instead of Bloodstone being 1 in 2 to give 1.5x mult its 100% chance to give 1.25x mult)
what about if i canāt get baron š
loyalty card is fine
do some planning to get through a difficult boss blind and buy yourself more time
Same with bbc.
then it doesnt matter a
nah iāll sell ticket right
yh
the levels have diminishing returns and there comes a point where id rather have another form of value
plus like if i have blue seals i dont need the slot spent on burnt joker anymore
i mean, planet generation is sort of quadratic
and cool design
Between that and spending in the shop.
1.25^5 barely equates to blackboard scoring btw
lmao
Bye mime.
two copies of burnt joker is 4x as good as one copy of burnt joker
sell mime right?
i guess
hey i said it was BAD for a reason
hallucination is now a 100% chance to create half a tarot card
Two copies of burnt joker are my favorite guarateed win in gold.
the +mult part is not quite as powerful so it's not really 4x but it does open up possibilities for glass / steel to get through vv or heart
1 tarot card every other pack
thats...
thats now how math works???
if anything it would be worse because dimmishing returns
if im wrong please correct me
every tarot card is half of an emperor
Every half a tarot card is half a fool.
aren't we all?
base score (chips * mult) is roughly proportional to level^2
so if you scale level twice as fast, you're scaling scoring 4x as fast
What about 3 (three) copies of burnt joker?
even betterer
that would be 9x as fast as one copy
or 2.25x as fast as two
now what
whats your deck
new run black deck gold stake
Were you actually doing kings.
plasma deck white stake so i would guess so
me neither
feels risky
THey had a mime minute ago and i told them to sell it.
having no 6s upsets the nannys
I love vanilla
sad
o
Are these worth swapping? Im doing an aces only 5 with same suit
id say yes
i feel like sell photo or chad
shiny ass build
cuz then invis joker next round
If anything it's better to swap it with the dusk.
anyways, kill dusk
Really?
"vanilla"
look inside
deck sleeve
You think throw that in instead of dusk
Not even with all glass cards?
heh
u guys pick sell photo or chad for baron
hmmmm
feels like both are kinda useless without the other ngl
i will sell the latter for the invis joker before duping
Show us your levels.
17 flush 5
23 high card
i might just sell chad then win next round, sell photo, sell invis joker
and get dupe brainstorm blueprint or baron
yh
then get mime and win
Sell chad.
Bruhhhhhh, yellow deck is better than green deck in every way
Green deck sucks so bad
I just feel like dusk improves the impact of my jokers so substantially and the glass on top of that but i also dont know how hard an additional 3x mult would be
groker š
groker š
i hadnt checked thw photo detailed and i just realized it was perishable, sad
Same, I realised after I sent the image š
at this point blueprint is not worth buying
Lowk crazy unseeded
šæ
š
Pray for mime and naneinf š
mime hiding from u lmao
tmrw im gonna retry the seed i had found with 3 souls lmao
Honestly is that rly worth?
If it wasn't perishable then yes
perkelator prolly needed for naneinf
ik one can only hope
and a negative as well
But you will be killing all your econ for it if you get that
the fuck is a perkelator
Oh wait
definitely not
Green deck
it's cool tho
perkeo
is that where you get observatory, perkeo and a pluto card
I'm not buying it
I think yes
probably
True ig...
should i wait till boss or just take now
No way I'm buying perishable for $10
it lets u dig for mime longer
idk the strategy for it
perkeo isnt a requirement for naneinf, you can also achieve it with a build that consists of enough redsteel kings, a burglar (which should get copied by all the bp/bs), and the serpent as the boss blind
One of my runs today started with nat negative golden joker (Couldn't afford getting it tho)
yeah but no burger šæ
Very funny run start
starvation
I hate Bloodstone
i love bloodstone
I am indifferent about Bloodstone
dies to no ecto and no econ
@white zodiac HOW ARE YOU ALWAYS HERE
You can be my bff
hornet dont you dare question my skills with bloodstone, im lucky enough to hit an oops every time i encounter bloodstone
UnU
hell yea
Bloodstone loves all and forgives all sins
Jokes aside I like Bloodstone builds
except hornet, appearently
average bloodstone run
Join us
thats on you vro
It's just that to get a successful bloodstone build you have to either be as lucky as lesbian hornet just got or have a lot of setup
That's my goat.
taking a rental eternal bloodstone as a c++ player š„
i had doubl bloodstone with dusk but this horseshit game of rng headed me on ante 3 š”
would've gone 0 for 20 on any other boss anyways
GG
Hello there! :D
stupid game 
lmao
where do i go after this? make all steel and pray for negatives?
arrowhead gameplay when
idkwym
$2 on yellow deck. artful
only make steel when you need to
gold
you need econ badly
ok iām half steel and half gold now
My favourite of the stone jokers icl
well a little before you need to
Plasmatitutes.
i mean you can probably draw a full-ish hand of gold right
+50 chips per Spade is batshit insane, idk how they kept it so strong šš
i have used like 20 souls so far but still no caino even once
yes
inb4 +30 in 1.1 update
that's probably fine, im guessing you needed steel to live because no mime?
localthunk hates flushes
yes
Flashbacks to the run from 2 days ago where I sold Canio to keep getting riff raff value in Abandoned Deck :trollface:
jokes on him, the first deck that i maxed out is checkered
wait if i have serpent now should i reroll to save him or how does it work
thankfully arrowhead isnāt a flush joker 
W H A T (smart decision, W's in the chat)
ive done funnier things
Can't believe there isn't a toilet joker that is a pun about flushes yet.
tribe
well, boss blinds cycle around each other, so even if you go against serpent now you can roll a specific amount of times later on and get it again
goat mentioned
carried me in a 3oak run
ok got it thanks
whats ur current build lookin like
as in deck + jokers
Setting up Canio on Abandoned Deck may be cool and all, but have you ever 8s Full House instead? 
Iāll play 4 hands to get rest of the golds out
If I can even bottleneck it thst much
you should be good for a while, save money for spectral packs for an ecto, then reroll for burglar and then save again
If you ever find a dna then drop the brainstorm for it.
I hate Smiley Face
if you see dna before burglar, take it, iy will be very important to clone your redsteels, around 40-50 of them is needed
is this possible to naneinf? or just get very high
naneinf possible
yoo thatās sick
but only with a burglar in the build alongside every other atuff u have rn
thats y u need an ecto first
Don't know about naneinf but it will likely score very high if you find dna soon enough.
i see
you need ecto and retcon still
Worst jumbo arcana pack ever š
Goodnight chat.
then dna to clone enough redsteels until you get around 50
yknow what harm could 1 more boss in the ante 1 pool do
true
then burglar in replacement of dna
ok i see will try
it's cuz people crutch photochad š
and more than 66 bucks
which joker is most likely to make you run straight flushes
uh
I'd argue it being ante 4+ makes it even worse to deal with
That's when face card builds are slowly starting to rely more and more on the face cards
4 fingers
I meannn shortcut
miau
fingers
but this seems like a trick question
4 fingers and shortcut both hold the first place
4 fingers is likely to make me reroll the shop
prolly not smeared
then smeared in second
todo list
I donāt see many people talk about smeared when doing flraight for some reason
shortcut enables straight flush almost immediately on abandoned
they say that and then gets followed up with their personal highest ante 8 obelisk
i wouldn't build for strush in order to do the to do list personally
bro my dumbass said flraight
I actually got a four fingers/smeared combo and got strush gold stakes yesterday!
for straight flushes
shortcut and 4 finger in first place
smeared in second
tribe in third place ig
I would basically never build for strush on high stakes, too inconsistent unless youre just triyng to do a fun run for the hell of it
tribe is crazy
ya vagabond is still up there
tribe
free xmult while ur at it, yknow
it's not a joker but most of my strush runs involved orbital tag
thats y i put it below the others tho
just not worth it 
bloodstone because that's the only time i can use it without wanting to gouge my eyes out
Ah, I made two but I accidentally sent another one haha
I'd place four fingers above shortcut, personally
It feels like four fingers is specifically really good with strushes compared to shortcut
meh, still a decent pick, considering how fast sflush planets scale
i donāt think you understood the assignment
when strush is already lv4 or lv25 or whatever i'm more likely to want to use it
there should be more incentive to run strush
Nope!
but I don't want to nerf saturn
yupp
...because?
buff every plant BUT saturn
Seriously though, the shortcut is more useful for a straight flush
Or at least I got more out of it.
seance now blows up your played hands
They're both good.
no don't buff jupiter
maybe its because iāve never really done strush builds but I feel like people only ever associate it with four fingers
I think that influenced my choices
I II II I_
is that loss
make all planets give +1 mult and +1 chips
Personal experience ig. I always feel a lot more comfortable getting strush with four fingers than shortcut
Though tbf I don't see shortcut and attempt strush, I just go straight
PFF-
Ironically, the times I played straight flush it was without shortcuts or four fingers

it's not a perfect metric but
# of strushes with shortcut = 512
# of strushes with 4fingers = something like 1287? that might be wrong
lmao
lmao
i love markdown
fr
what about just straights
then they arent gay tho, not worthy enough mentioning
LT should be tried in a court of law for allowing negative tags to apply to such shit jokers
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8ball is NOT shit

at least you will now get a tarot once every blue moon
do not slander the Ball of Justice
8ball is just misunderstood....
8 ball is by every metric quite an underwhelming if not actively detrimental joker simply for the low chance if it procing
temperance value
Also 8ball negative goes incredibly hard
just hit the 1/4
But hey at least it doesn't really harm you as much as some others...
two dice.
it's as shrimple as that
detrimental?
I've done runs with 8-ball
Just play more 8s
Trust me
if 8 ball is detrimental then vagabond is detrimental
The idea is to shape your deck to have a lot of 8s
Investing into a rank that doesn't have much better stuff to do and tunnel visioning for a low reward
shaking my blue seals
woh
It should just give a tarot card if an 8 is scored smh
And activate it constantly
Keep it until it feeds itself
even steven
fibbo
I mostly meant at worst
i know that shortcut multiplies the total # of possible straights by 12.8 but idk about 4 fingers. harder to calculate i think
After it starts feeding itself you're flying
look thats it but fibbo doing some heavy ass carrying here
It actively makes you play worse plays because of its requirements
investing into any rank is better than not investing into any rank imo
going into 8s for 8 ball has been beneficial plenty of times
i like some self enabling effects of 8 ball at its average rate
it snowballs
or whatever
just take the mult around 2.25 or sth
i love 8s
also even if you donāt invest into it, it can still be somewhat useful
maybe like 2 tarots before you drop it usually
Yeah but tunnel visioning over a common joker that doesn't even have a close to reliable rate of output is nowhere near as close to useful as any other joker that isn't actually making your run worse (Marble without hologram)
iām gonna cry
what's the worst rank for fibonacci
Yes, 8s aren't the most notable rank in Balatro buut 8ball can by itself be your deckfixing towards an 8s 4oak/5oak if you have jokers to support your scoring
crazy ass bait
3
imo kings, since they don't trigger fibonacci and they also suck for other reasons
I like this kind if humour
8 maybe? with the others you can at least form a big part of a straight
i like 8 better than 2 and 3 personally
Most of them can retrigger, ace has scholar to also generate chips, 8 has 8 ball which is already getting glazed like crazy so
why would i strength aces/twos
Between those options you have to choose which one feels the worst
2 has wee
I should take any random nat negatives right?
yes
it cant hurt
5-4-3-2-ace can form a straight
it gets more reliable as you build into it! it also works nicely with retriggers
iām not saying its GREAT but still
also in this case youād be building into one rank, which is cool for 3oak or 4oak
Is this a "which rank is the best" debate again? š
Yeah but they also have hack alongside 3 and 5 so they are already a whole level above 8 or aces
worst case scenario it does nothing
unless theyāre harmful (like madness/dagger/midas once you have steel)
you can try
2s are the best rank for fibbo