🕹・game-discussion

[wheat haven]

Question, do i buy telescope if im running trousers? like I dont wanna see uranus everytime

[heady narwhal]

what planet do you have the highest level in?

if you're running pairs then definitely not

[wheat haven]

Nothing really yet

[heady narwhal]

i'd say pass on telescope maybe

generally best to level up pairs with trousers

[wheat haven]

Yeah just not found many so been taking others for now

[heady narwhal]

makes sense

[wheat haven]

Ive not played gold stake in like 8 months and its really kicking my ass

[low fog]

silly run

[dim karma]

yo are you hot

[low fog]

my grandma says i'm handsome

idk

[dim karma]

how wide is it

[low fog]

uhhhhh

right now?

likeeee

idkkkk

let me count

[stark karma]

?????

[unreal iron]

what

did i walk into

[low fog]

i'm 40 centimeters wide

[stark karma]

?????

[low fog]

i eat too many cookies

i'm fat

[quaint stag]

one time i ate a whole block of cheese

[stark karma]

yall wtf

[low fog]

based

[wheat haven]

I agree

[uncut matrix]

what purpose does the eternal oops have

[rugged bloom]

lmfao

[low fog]

idk i picked it up because why not

[unreal iron]

lowkey lucky card spam

[low fog]

i killed myself that run i was bored out of my mind so started picking out random shit

[unreal iron]

as a form of econ

[low fog]

🧠

[rugged bloom]

absolutely fucking based

[unreal iron]

my genius generates gravity

[low fog]

i'm literally gonna kill myself

[heady narwhal]

jolly joker is pretty nice early

[uncut matrix]

its ante 1 you wouldnt be able to use it for much anyway

[low fog]

BRO

[uncut matrix]

itll come back around

[low fog]

THANK YOU

THANK YOU BALATRO BALATREZ

I HAD EXACTLY 10 BUCKS

HOLY SHIT

[sacred trench]

This was a weird run

[uncut matrix]

time for a high card build

[sacred trench]

Can you guess what joker I built around

[low fog]

let's not

[low fog]

let's not talk about that run shall we

[sacred trench]

Come on

[low fog]

DUDE

THE PLANT NEEDS TO DIE

[sacred trench]

If you did Abandon deck you wouldn't have to worry would you

[wheat haven]

bruh

[low fog]

FUCK YOU

[sacred trench]

XD

[low fog]

worst of all i actually got this close to winning too

[lapis dawn]

cavendish the move here

cuz the free reroll guy seems ncie

[slow iris]

moment

[sacred trench]

No Krusty the Clown is the best option

[slow iris]

fron double runner to triple stencil

[lapis dawn]

r u fr or no

[heady narwhal]

eternal holo burnt joker >>>> blueprint

[sacred trench]

No cavendish the right move

[heady narwhal]

uncrop the screenshot

[pale wolf]

beep

[honest dawn]

Getting closer and closer to that C++

[pale wolf]

https://www.balatrodle.com/ spoilers in 3 repost
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[rugged bloom]

ya'll ever do something that makes no sense currently, only for prepping for something that might happen?

[void topaz]

JOKERLES BABY

time for the real challenge

xray vision

[solid garden]

GG

[willow frost]

G

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[heady narwhal]

me too!!!

[rugged pollen]

What do you guys think of my jokers

[serene forge]

ante 7 plant incoming

[rugged pollen]

Good luck with that

[serene forge]

wait

that's a luchador right there nvm

lol

[serene forge]

its gonna roll plant into plant

[spiral cairn]

balatro

more like

balls

im going to do something to the plant i swear

ruined ante 30 run

[wheat haven]

Im on round 4 and Ive already had like $150 from tarot cards, if i mess this up im just bad

[spiral cairn]

yeah

[serene forge]

no retcon by ante 30 is actually sad though

that's unfortunate

[spiral cairn]

very

ggs

[obsidian patrol]

i really like this game sometimes

[buoyant ridge]

what am i doing wrong here =?

[north spindle]

for plasma you want to be doing either all chips or all mult if you can
constellation is probably barely doing anything in your current setup

carrying chips all game is also usually not possible so you want to switch

[low fog]

I wanna try jokerless so bad bro

[obsidian patrol]

it aint that hard

[low fog]

It's not that, i haven't unlocked it yet

It's the 10th one right?

It seems so fun

[void topaz]

wow i got lucky

[north spindle]

20th

[low fog]

WHAT

[north spindle]

last challenge

[low fog]

NOOOOOOOO...

[void topaz]

xray vision may not be that bad after all

[low fog]

UGH

Sigh time to complete the challenges

[north spindle]

its also kinda boring imo

[void topaz]

its just like

[north spindle]

not very much variety (unsurprisingly)

[void topaz]

make lots of one guy and pray you get the planets you need

[civic harness]

Just got my first legendary and it was the one about discards…. I was on ante 7 of a Burglar run 💔

[void topaz]

anyway im done with all the challenges

[north spindle]

i mean if u really want it you can unlock all
or also play through the other challenges most of which are easy

[void topaz]

i liked fragile

[north spindle]

fragile is definitely one of the most enjoyable

[void topaz]

i like how you can beat fragile while full skipping

i beat it with 9 3oaks lol

[north spindle]

i did something more normal iirc

but still one shotting blinds

[void topaz]

skipping feels like the play cause like

your cards

theyregone

[north spindle]

i mightve skipped toward the end

[void topaz]

with a couple 3oak levels you can just sweep it

[north spindle]

you have 52 cards tho

[void topaz]

i think i got chad though

so like lvl 3 3oak + chad = win

[north spindle]

i mean yeah chad 3oak will sweep lol

[void topaz]

x2 x2 x2 x2 x2

[honest dawn]

I still need to unlock the Joker, which requires 30 diamond cards, and the upgrade voucher that makes it more likely that planets will appear in the shop.

How do I get the voucher?

[obsidian patrol]

you buy the first one

[void topaz]

you just buy planets i think

[honest dawn]

No, there is a way to unlock it for the first time.

[void topaz]

yeah you unlock it by buying planets

[honest dawn]

That's all?

[void topaz]

yea

get to buying

[honest dawn]

But that's a very high planet number, isn't it?

[void topaz]

i think its like 50 or something

[honest dawn]

50 olane

[north spindle]

im very surprised someone could have all other items but the diamond joker and not have bought enough planets

[honest dawn]

Only 50 planets?

Blue seals don't count

I guess

[void topaz]

yeah its buy

from the shop

i dont think packs count either

[north spindle]

i mean
thats like
3ish constellation runs?

[void topaz]

yea

[north spindle]

maybe 4?

[void topaz]

1 if your good fr

x5 constellation

[honest dawn]

When I do a constellation run, I get the planets with a blue seal.

[north spindle]

and thats assuming you never buy planets from the shop in any other situation

[honest dawn]

I don't like spending a lot of money on planets.

[pale wolf]

would it be better if the tycoon vouchers just added a guaranteed slot for their specific type of consumable

[honest dawn]

It would be great: astronomer + constellation

[north spindle]

this sounds really nice

[void topaz]

I swear it tells you the unlock requirement by hovering over it

[north spindle]

tarot tycoon sounds like a beast with that change especially

[pale wolf]

zodiac deck would feel a lot more fun if that was the second tier

[honest dawn]

Tarot Tycoon and the Planet Voucher do their job, but Magic Trick doesn't, in my opinion.

[north spindle]

just make zodiac even better than it is already lol

[obsidian patrol]

i think zodiac is one of the most fun decks in the game

[pale wolf]

I feel like it's kind of plain

[honest dawn]

Why would you want cards without upgrades and then only be able to get upgraded ones? They should add the possibility of getting them with seals.

[north spindle]

i mean
if zodiac is plain then what is yellow/blue lol

[obsidian patrol]

hologram

[north spindle]

it feels middle of the pack at least

[pale wolf]

I mean even if illusion worked the way that it was written on the card, it would still not be worth taking magic trick just for the Chance of illusion still

[honest dawn]

The fact that a voucher depends on a Joker makes it bad

[obsidian patrol]

its not fun in the sense that it does something insane but its fun in the sense that it opens up a lot more possibilites with tarot tycoon and overstock

[pale wolf]

merchant

[obsidian patrol]

i meant that

[pale wolf]

oh I see what you mean

[silent quiver]

Playing with lots of enhanced cards is kinda fun

[final bough]

pulling up the latro on the school computer before my exam

doesnt get much better than this

[pale wolf]

I didn't finish whoops

[silent quiver]

Wait zeb i kinda wanted ur opinion on a hypothetical i was talking about the other day

If u start with every joker in the game and plasma deck what is the highest amount of points you can score in one round and how

[cursive crater]

boss idea:the guillotine
debuffs the most played card rank

[pale wolf]

there would have to be a way of tracking how many times you play each rank

[obsidian patrol]

itgoesitgoesitgoesitgoesitgoes

[humble hound]

should i sell hiker for ballot?
he helps give baseball an extra x1.5 though

[honest dawn]

Everything to hell, flat and win without chip jokers or multi🗣️

[pale wolf]

sounds like an absurd amount of factors

nobody should do this by hand, they should just plug it into a calculator

[silent quiver]

Firstly before you enter the blind you copy burglar.

For your first copy seance and use your next hand to get an aura card and a red seal, and turn a king of hearts into polychrome, and redseal.

Then use your next hand to copy vagabond to draw a justice and a death. To make the poly red king into glass and clone it.

Keep one copy on vagabond Then use your next two hands to draw 4 more deaths to make 5 red seal polychrome king of hearts.

This is where i need to do more math as i cannot decide weather or not its more worth it to use vagabond to give high priestess for eris or if its more worth it to use it for death and clone kings for baron.

[terse vale]

I mean i’m sure there would be an obvious outlier
and if there isn’t, then the boss doesn’t reeeeally matter

[cursive crater]

ok heres another idea i have

[north spindle]

i dont want another boss punishing "activate on play" strats

[pale wolf]

what if you've been playing fulle houses of two different ranks, but you don't know which one you've played more of and all your glass is on one rank

[cursive crater]

rainbow stake:this stake will be the new highest stake after gold,which will introduce the positive sticker.being the opposite of negative,if your joker has a positive sticker it will use 2 joker slots instead of 1

[pale wolf]

or two pair or whatever

but actually this is a non-issue and I'm a little dumb

it would just say it on the boss blind like ox does

[void topaz]

lowkey

could be a way for someone to naturally get invisible other than painted

[terse vale]

true I was thinking that
hmmmm
I think it should say the rank below the boss icon in the ante maybe!!

[cursive crater]

im not sure on the positive name because

[terse vale]

I don’t know if thats allowed

[cursive crater]

technically every non negative joker is already positive

soo

[north spindle]

madness:
stencil:

[cursive crater]

im open to suggestions

[terse vale]

could work when you’re in round
like when you check the ante while going against the blind

[void topaz]

lowkey i dont think about stencil alot

like whenever i see it with an ankh on ghost deck or something i go like oh yeah this guy

[north spindle]

i mean its not common but like
ive had rounds that would have unlocked painted bc of stencil

[pale wolf]

on a stake above gold?

[void topaz]

shhhh

[cursive crater]

maybe they hate painted deck that much

[void topaz]

trust the process

[stark karma]

vamp lowk needs a buff

[pale wolf]

which one

[cursive crater]

and also on the rare occurence of a negative joker having a positive sticker...

[void topaz]

anyway im gonna continue watching mha ts is lowkey peak forget about the fandom

[stark karma]

like give him 0.2

[cursive crater]

the game just crashes

[void topaz]

left

[north spindle]

left

[void topaz]

it just looks more good

[north spindle]

i think positive sounds like a very punishing sticker

[terse vale]

right!

[void topaz]

yea

[wintry ice]

eternal positive showman

[void topaz]

have you heard of perishable

[pale wolf]

oh and how about this

[void topaz]

no

[wintry ice]

germany

[pale wolf]

not even close

[cursive crater]

its rainbow stake we are talking about

[north spindle]

i mean
the thing is that this would stack w all the other stickers persumably

[void topaz]

after 300 hours of balatro i only now have beat all the challenges hmmmm

time to treat myself to a ghost deck white stake

[low fog]

nice

[left sorrel]

Wow I just realized that if you have a sticker on jimbo, then it appears on the "loading" game screen

[cursive crater]

yeah

joker idea:jackpot(uncommon)
1/7 chance to gain +7 mult for every 7 scored

overused concept

[glad sequoia]

This combo is going a little nutty

[cursive crater]

but i just cant believe 7s dont have any specific synergy

[coarse silo]

Oh my god

For context I had to sell my square joker at 200+ chips

[heavy heron]

good thing the ol’ photochad got your back!

[coarse silo]

Why can’t there be a 7 based joker that isn’t based on slot machines

[coarse silo]

Yeah I know lol

Cheap but saved me

[wintry ice]

1 in 7 for +7 on a card you start with 4 of is

pretty bad even as a scaling joker

[wheat haven]

I hope this is enough, I havent won a game today 😭

Yes I know my jokers are absolutely awful

[wintry ice]

this is a setup of all time

[wheat haven]

It was not enough

[shell dagger]

i could imagine it scaling at a similar rate to fortune teller in the earlygame

but flash card lategame

[heavy heron]

old days

[wintry ice]

idol if it was somehow worse

[cursive crater]

its the fate of the seven what can i say

[terse vale]

bro

[barren wigeon]

worst boss ever

[low fog]

i fucking hate invisible joker

[heady narwhal]

wee is +8 chips and would be pretty balanced at half as much

imo

[wheat haven]

Wee is my numero uno

[heady narwhal]

+1 mult per scored 7 on average would be fine

not like the most impressive scaler by any means but it'd be usable

[fervent wolf]

Ggs

[low fog]

Wait

[wintry ice]

+4 chips per 2 wee would still have a very high ceiling

i'm just not sure about it being on a chance

[low fog]

Is the pluto celestial card banned in the medusa challenge

[wintry ice]

no

check the challenge rules

[glad sequoia]

Little square man surpassed stuntman. Really played 84 pairs 😂

[low fog]

shiny rocks...

chip heaven..

[glad sequoia]

Stone joker should go nuts

[low fog]

the fuck it IS

[glad sequoia]

Lol looks like a plasma build

[civic sierra]

fellas, is it time to ditch the stone? (3x constellation)

[dry jasper]

oh my goodness
best luck ive had

[low fog]

HOLY SHIT?

[dry jasper]

got a soul on a random shop and after that round i got another 😭😭😭

[glad sequoia]

Nice, same ante. I got two souls in the same shop today. I was shocked

[low fog]

hey so i have a question

[dry jasper]

ya

[low fog]

y'know the joker that gives you x4 mult if it has a 4 of a kind

does it work on stone cards?

i'm guessing not

[dry jasper]

i have no clue
im a newbie

[heavy hare]

no unfortunately

[devout wasp]

i would say most likely yes, you're not likely to be able to add an oops to the board and a brainstorm lets you copy hallu and constellation; you do lose some score ceiling though

[glad sequoia]

Playing 5 stone cards counts as high card so no

[low fog]

sigh...

[dry jasper]

ive only been playing for like 4 days or so

[heavy hare]

stone hands count as high cards

[low fog]

shiny rooocksss

i'm not used to chip building lol

[devout wasp]

like, the extra x3 from brainstorming constellation doesn't quite make up for the loss of 1.25^5 expected score times another 1.5 from a baseball card trigger, but it's more consistent

[coarse silo]

Stone card builds are fun

[devout wasp]

and also opens up hallu

[low fog]

LET'S GOOOO

Has dna reached its time

I don't think i have enough shiny rocks

[dry jasper]

ive only won twice in my like 4 days of playing
js gotta learn how to manipulate my deck

[low fog]

oh nooo what am i gonna dooooo

oh no i'm DEVASTATED dude

Noooo...

[void topaz]

NOOOOO YOU CANT MAKE MORE ROCKS

[dry jasper]

i still dont get how people do this lmao

[civic sierra]

found an ecto later on, added cat

look who decided to come crawling back

I remember your sins.

2 1/5 hits, and a 0/5 hit

begone thot

[low fog]

that was cool as shit

[civic sierra]

bro got head 💀

[void topaz]

bro i just beat all the challenges and my first run afterwards i have this

im being rewarded

[rancid niche]

With 0 scoring jokers?

[void topaz]

ok well yeah technically

[floral mural]

steel cards i assume

[void topaz]

i just picked up dna btw

[torn drift]

what???

how tf do u do that

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[torn drift]

i cant do that

[void topaz]

i need baron though

[torn drift]

baron so bad

[void topaz]

without baron i lose instantly

[torn drift]

its useless

[void topaz]

please take a look at my jokers

and my deck

[torn drift]

worst card

oh

well

maybe its ok

[void topaz]

like every joker baron is situational

[torn drift]

every joker so bad

they should make an op joker

[void topaz]

hanging chad be like

[torn drift]

like OP JOKER : gives 30 trillion fishes /round

[void topaz]

fishes?

[tawdry burrow]

what challenge deck do I try now

[void topaz]

which have you done

[tawdry burrow]

I did medusa five card draw mad world and fragile already

[void topaz]

damnnn i died to a bad draw against the water

touch

tough

no baron sucks

got to the e's though

[jagged valve]

BALATRO TIME

[void topaz]

its time for you to do jokerless

[tender salmon]

balalala

[tawdry burrow]

bro I'm trying to play knifes edge I just can't scale it enough with my ass luck

even collection tech can't save me here

[obtuse chasm]

i hate this game bruh

[tawdry burrow]

the needle sometimes just

plant I get if you're playing photo chad/naneinf

[shell dagger]

22.75x campfire

[floral mural]

photochad has a counter to plant its called a glass card

[tawdry burrow]

and that one that debuff everything till 1 joker sold ?

[hardy fable]

ante 7 wall though

[tawdry burrow]

ante 7 wall can be fucked

verdant leaf is the bullshit one right

[floral mural]

usually free and is "solved" by being cautious of having no non scoring joker that arent eternal

[tawdry burrow]

Cerulean bell forces 1 card to be selected the red one debuffs a random joker

the orange one flips and shuffles your jonklers

the purple wall tanks shit

[floral mural]

i hate crimson heart so much

i love randomly losing even if i did the best play possible

at least vessel is imminent

[tawdry burrow]

vessel is just an ultra score check

the others are bullshit

including

[floral mural]

calling acorn bullshit is a skill issue im sorry to tell you

worlds least threatening boss blind

[tawdry burrow]

I barely get acorn lmao

[floral mural]

just hold your flat mult to the left

[tawdry burrow]

so I either beat it easy or just die

[floral mural]

its only remotely threatening if you have blueprint. and even then its one hand to figure out where blueprint is

[tawdry burrow]

chess deck is funny

[slate lance]

Plant is NOT that bad

Just dont play face cards ez

[tawdry burrow]

planted

[obtuse chasm]

true, its worse

[tawdry burrow]

I don't play photo chad so plant doesn't bother me much

last I did was at the start of my gold chess run

[slate lance]

Me neither

Im a card sharp glazer

Card sharp easily best x mult in the game

[shell dagger]

the eye

[floral mural]

plant is one of the main threats for face builds but its like so much the only major threat that looking for counters premptively isnt unjusitified?

[obtuse chasm]

this is the run i lost it on, admitly using vagabond that late was pretty stupid but still plants fault def not mine nope

[floral mural]

cavendish :3

[tawdry burrow]

I mean Needle and that one that forces you to not play the same hand twice

do fuck sharp over

Cavendish is ballers

[slate lance]

Luchador:
Directors cut:

[shell dagger]

this isn’t the counter you think it is

[slate lance]

Ok but like

Cavendish is boring

Card sharp has personality

[shell dagger]

the fact that card sharp needs them means it’s not the best xmult

[tawdry burrow]

early eye can be fucky

[floral mural]

cavendish is objectively better than card sharp tho

[tawdry burrow]

anyhow bedtime see ya

[tawdry burrow]

other than feeding it to dagger but who does that?

or do they share sell price

[floral mural]

also id say blackboard is slightly better than card sharp generally too as its less boss weakness

for generally the same hand types

[shell dagger]

much better

probably half a tier better

[slate lance]

Yeah no

[slate lance]

Ok but blackboard can easily.fuck up with bad luck

[shell dagger]

it doesn’t with pairs

[slate lance]

Even with pairs.

[shell dagger]

you just need to draw 3 non red cards

[floral mural]

not really. youre not playing blackboard and card sharp on big hands usually

[shell dagger]

the chance of you whiffing after all your hands and discards is miniscule

[slate lance]

Im talking pairs

[shell dagger]

alternatively just do this

[slate lance]

You havent seen my luck

Card sharp is.not up to rng

[shell dagger]

it is

[floral mural]

with pairs you have 3 extra cards each hand to dump red suits

[slate lance]

Also card sharp is way more synnergising with any hand u can consistently draw

[floral mural]

blackboard misses once a round max

[heavy hare]

the personality is pair spam 😿

[slate lance]

Blackboard may not be the best on gor example checkered

[shell dagger]

again just wrong

[wheat haven]

Okay im crashing out, ive played about 20 games of gold stake on anaglyph trying to farm stickers and Ive made it to ante 8 once and lost

[slate lance]

Hc , pair, flush

[slate lance]

Not wrong at all

[shell dagger]

it is

[slate lance]

Blackboard doesnt work on any hand type

[slate lance]

Mb I guess u decide whats wrong whats right

Blackboard being better is wrong

[heavy hare]

blackboard works on like pairs and high card mostly

[safe moat]

You’ll learn

[slate lance]

Simply erong

[north spindle]

the personality is doing nothing in 2 of the hardest boss blinds

[shell dagger]

Card sharp realistically only works on the same hands that blackboard does

[heavy hare]

more interesting than card sharp tho

[floral mural]

oh no i have to play pairs instead of flush spam on the flush deck what travesty

[safe moat]

So flush too

Two pair

[slate lance]

Not at all

[wheat haven]

I used to be able to do this fine, I managed to get c++ last year but I havent played in ages

[shell dagger]

both card sharp flush and blackboard flush are pretty bad

[slate lance]

Straights with construct?

[safe moat]

4oak

[slate lance]

Or even with ff

Or hell even straight flushes with construct + smeared

Wtf rid i dat

Ashortcut

[safe moat]

Least used joker prolly stone

[slate lance]

SHORTCUT

My brain is so dumb

WHAT THE FUCK IS CONSTRUCT

[shell dagger]

id guess getting either the eye or needle in the second half of a run is about 10%

the chance of you whiffing for a full round on blackboard is less than 1%

[slate lance]

U can use glass to pass it

[shell dagger]

bruh

[slate lance]

And the eye can fuck up blackboard just as much

[shell dagger]

these aren’t arguments for card sharp

[slate lance]

What if u cant get the.proper suits

[shell dagger]

no it doesn’t

[slate lance]

Its still good and has carried me

[shell dagger]

i already addressed that the chance of happening is miniscule

[safe moat]

No it really can’t

[shell dagger]

i know card sharp is good

[slate lance]

Wow ok mr omnipotent i decide everything

[shell dagger]

im not arguing that it is bad

but it’s not top 5 good

[slate lance]

But not zero

[safe moat]

What is top 5

[shell dagger]

idk I haven’t thought about it

[safe moat]

Bruhg

[shell dagger]

probably like

[floral mural]

and the chance of being forced into a bus reset is like 1% too. and that aint a bad side of bus

[shell dagger]

cav blackboard yorick bp rebate

[obtuse chasm]

am i doing this right chat

[floral mural]

usually resetting bus is like fully your fault

[safe moat]

Yeah you’re funny

[pale wolf]

card sharp top 5 overall? it's not even top 5 xmult

[shell dagger]

ho ho ho

[safe moat]

Most consistent is def license

[shell dagger]

what

[slate lance]

Dude pulling a bad blackboard hand is NOT 1%

[shell dagger]

license takes like 3 antes to come online

[pale wolf]

cavendish, blackboard, yorick, constellation, hologram, acrobat, obelisk, campfire

[shell dagger]

where’s ur maths

[safe moat]

Its consistent

[floral mural]

losing 1 hand every 3 antes does not cripple you

[wheat haven]

this fully describes the day im having

[slate lance]

Yall glaze rebate way too much

It aint that good

[shell dagger]

nah

[slate lance]

Yah

[floral mural]

best econ in the game is unironically best joker in the game

even above blueprint

[slate lance]

Wrong on both ends

[shell dagger]

i took eternal rental rebate 2 runs ago in ante 1 and it won me the run

[pale wolf]

It's literally the only thing that probably needs to be nerfed in the game

[slate lance]

Not best econ

[shell dagger]

what is then

[pale wolf]

to do list

[slate lance]

Matador :3

[pale wolf]

half the output of rebate, one third of the time, 60% of the time

great

[safe moat]

Chad?

[pale wolf]

chad isnt op hes just versatile

The most consistent builds don't really involve Chad

[slate lance]

How tf is it half the output

It is NOT half the output

[safe moat]

Why did people want him nerfed then

[pale wolf]

peak output is like 32 for matador, which is achievable with good deck fixing with rebate very easily

[slate lance]

Noobs

[shell dagger]

oh man the odds are worse than i thought

[pale wolf]

You could get well over $100 with rebate with something like vagabond from the start

[slate lance]

Mf on most runs y are not getting deckfixing like that

[shell dagger]

it’s about a 60% chance you don’t get eye or needle in antes 4-7

[floral mural]

also peak output assumes the boss blind works and only on boss blinds

[pale wolf]

well yeah, but you're also ignoring the fact that you get three times as many rounds and half the time Matador doesn't even do anything on the rounds that it should

[slate lance]

Unless all vagabond gives u is hierophants and suit tarots

Hah

[floral mural]

matador does well when it works but is not consistent

[pale wolf]

hence the third of the time, 60% of the time

[arctic lake]

I know it's nothing but I almost beat green stake today !

[floral mural]

also rebate on an unfixed deck can get around 10 dollars reliably every round which is insane for something right out of getting it

[wheat haven]

Congrats! 🙂

[floral mural]

congrats dont be afraid of eternal jokers in black stake

[slate lance]

Matador defo needs a buff to fix that / a rework but still
Rebate ur probably getting 5 bucks a round on average
When matador hits its 24 dollary doos with just 3 hands

[pale wolf]

no that is not how much money you get with rebate

unless you're smoking opium

[floral mural]

this involves using hands as discards i guess but i feel im not too far off?

[arctic lake]

I'm really far from black stake lol

[slate lance]

For me yeah it is

[pale wolf]

You are playing the game wrong

[slate lance]

I cant tell u how maby times rebate has given me nothing no matter how much i digged.

[pale wolf]

I'm not quite sure how because I haven't seen you play but that's just not how rebate performs

I mean the overwhelming response you keep getting should be evident

[hallow zenith]

My first red stake win :DD

[slate lance]

Its propaganda

Im.not falling for the rebate propaganda

[pale wolf]

You're trolling

[slate lance]

No

[pale wolf]

no, you are 😑

[hallow zenith]

Mail in rebate is good, no?

[floral mural]

it is good

[slate lance]

Atp maybe a little

[hallow zenith]

Why we arguing

[slate lance]

But i do believe rebate isnt top 19

[slate lance]

10*

[slate lance]

I like rebate dont get me wrong

[floral mural]

they said matador is better than rebate

[slate lance]

Just not a top 10 in my book

[hallow zenith]

Wdym top 10 jokers?

[slate lance]

Best 10

[hallow zenith]

What does matador do

[pale wolf]

idk why it matters to me except that somebody might read a message saying rebate sucks and then have worse games and improvement

[slate lance]

Matador gives 8 dollars when ur hand triggers the boss' effect

[hallow zenith]

Ooh, that would be a nice conversation

[slate lance]

I never said rebate sucks

[hallow zenith]

How does that work with the water for example

[slate lance]

I said its overglazed and overrated

[slate lance]

Whats the water again

[hallow zenith]

Nah it's really good

[pale wolf]

5 dollars average per round is like, less than faceless

[hallow zenith]

0 discards

[shell dagger]

it doesn’t

[red thistle]

Simple, doesn't.

[hallow zenith]

Oh so it's kinda bad

[shell dagger]

matador doesn’t trigger on more than half of the bosses

it is inconsistent

[hallow zenith]

What about manacle

[slate lance]

Yeah its only if ur hand triggers aj effect

[floral mural]

ok genuine question for rebate if on an unfixed deck i get 10 dollats from rebate every round using 1-2 hands per round to discard is that good early?

[shell dagger]

again

[red thistle]

It's getting reworked.

[slate lance]

Manacle doesnt trigger but thered so many that trigger

[shell dagger]

yes

[hallow zenith]

Ohh so if you play for example debuffed cards?

[slate lance]

The half chips half mult one

Is peak

[slate lance]

Yes

[pale wolf]

12/23 normal bosses, and 1/5 final bosses when it dont matter

[slate lance]

That triggers

[hallow zenith]

How can you rework ts ✌️🫩

[red thistle]

A debuffed card, mouth and eye and psychic also trigger it.

[shell dagger]

yeah matador is just baseball fodder in ante 8

[slate lance]

To make all bosses trigger it somehow

[hallow zenith]

What does mouth and psychic do again

[hallow zenith]

"somehow" is the keyword

Chat would y'all say triboulet is top 10 jokers of all time

[red thistle]

Psychic you must play hand with 5 cards selected, mouth you must only play 1 hand type.

[pale wolf]

trib isn't that good no

[hallow zenith]

Wouldn't it work with the opposite of the mouth, I forgot the name?

[slate lance]

Not having discards would make it always trigger maybe

[hallow zenith]

2x per king and/or queen is pretty good, no?

[hallow zenith]

Too cracked

[floral mural]

no as it requires a specific build and has a pretty major boss weakness

its not very consistent

[slate lance]

I mean how so?

[hallow zenith]

The humble luchador

[edgy thicket]

Yo rq can someone help

[red thistle]

Also flint and the arm trigger it every hand but that won't be fun.

[edgy thicket]

In seed chat

[slate lance]

The half mult half chips joker triggers matador on EVERY hand

[floral mural]

youre not getting luchador every run

[slate lance]

Why shouldnt the -1 hand size do it too

[pale wolf]

its still on-card xmult which cuts a lot of base scoring options out

[hallow zenith]

Wait is it common or uncommon

[floral mural]

luchador is uncommon

[hallow zenith]

Retriggers can help, can't they?

[pale wolf]

doesnt directly affect your scoring

[hallow zenith]

Dammit you're not that wrong then

[red thistle]

Gives $8 if played hand triggers boss ability.

[hallow zenith]

Would perkeo be top 10?

[pale wolf]

matador activates if the boss effect directly hurts your scoring by disabling or changing a number

[floral mural]

also no but top 10 is kinda competitive

[red thistle]

Nope.

[pale wolf]

except for tooth 🦓

[floral mural]

perkeo is more generally useful than trib tho

[pale wolf]

matador makes no sense

[hallow zenith]

What is your top 10 then lmao

[hallow zenith]

I agree

[hallow zenith]

[red thistle]

Yorick canio obelisk campfire rebate blueprint brainstorm hologram constellation chad.

[hallow zenith]

Rick??

Canio??

[red thistle]

Could even change it up with things like red card or pants.

[hallow zenith]

I mean I kinda agree with all of these picks but canio??

[pale wolf]

gold stake ante 8 gameplay

[red thistle]

Yorick and canio are the strongest jokers in the game and it's not even close.

[hallow zenith]

Real

[pale wolf]

canio aint that good

[red thistle]

Well no i lied it's kinda close.

[hallow zenith]

Yo I mean on casual runs

[hallow zenith]

I agree

[zinc cloud]

Wtf is this

Cruel game

[red thistle]

Define casual?

[hallow zenith]

HOLY SHIT

[hallow zenith]

White stake

Plasma?

[red thistle]

Whire stake plasma is piss easy.

[hallow zenith]

Yeah I'm talking bout fun twin ✌️🫩

[red thistle]

And white stake itself is also piss easy.

[pale wolf]

there's no reason to discuss a meta that has only one dimension

[hallow zenith]

You don't like to see big number go up

[zinc cloud]

Seeing a blueprint on 2nd shop which I can’t buy hurts my soul 😭

[pale wolf]

not really, i like to beat the game

[hallow zenith]

:((

[red thistle]

Gets boring after 200h of doing it.

The variety of strategies you can do in gold stake is far more fun imo.

[hallow zenith]

I mean that's true, I have like 10 hours on the game so I can't say a lotta shi

[hallow zenith]

If you wanna continue on gold stake endless, I think the only kinda viable options are idol and mime baron

[pale wolf]

4oak todolist i suppose

[red thistle]

The only options ever viable in endless is baron mime.

[hallow zenith]

Eh maybe a glass flush five

For like antes until like 14/15

[pale wolf]

here, win

[red thistle]

Actually i also lied, there's whatever bs you can do with perkeo and like extremely small odds of getting a couple natty negative blueprints.

[red thistle]

The capitalist route.

[hallow zenith]

Btw weird question

Is naneinf on gold stake possible? If yes is it extremely hard?

[pale wolf]

$15 @slate lance

[red thistle]

Yes and yes.

[edgy thicket]

No seeds are working for me

[somber solstice]

hi

[red thistle]

I would do it honestly.

[pale wolf]

okay this game is a little unfair, too easy

[pale wolf]

?

[red thistle]

Almost full interest.

[hallow zenith]

WAIT ITS ACTUALLY POSSIBLE??

[pale wolf]

well yeah no reason not to

[hallow zenith]

Has anyone here done it?

[pale wolf]

it was a hermit in the purple seal as well, not sure if I was supposed to use it before or after the round end

[red thistle]

Naneinf is possible on all decks and on all stakes.

[nova junco]

probably doc

[hallow zenith]

I NEED your seed

[hallow zenith]

I mean it's just harder the higher you go

[red thistle]

A couple yea, most famously doctor specter or balatro university.

[hallow zenith]

Oh I know this guy

[shell dagger]

I’ve done it

[pale wolf]

oh mein gott

[hallow zenith]

And last question

How many hours does it take to get a gold stake win

[edgy thicket]

How do I make the 52 ten of spades deck work

[shell dagger]

you win!

[hallow zenith]

Forgot the seed

[pale wolf]

individually? less than 1

[shell dagger]

gold stake world record is under 5 minutes but I doubt this is what you’re after

[edgy thicket]

I know the seed

It just won’t work

[hallow zenith]

Oh I'm stupid

[hallow zenith]

Strengths?

[edgy thicket]

What

What that mean

[hallow zenith]

No I mean so I can have time to learn the game and shi

[hallow zenith]

Strength tarots

[shell dagger]

40 hours is probably reasonable

[hallow zenith]

Make them jacks

[shell dagger]

maybe less maybe more

[hallow zenith]

And then again

[red thistle]

https://youtu.be/89bQmpePwfI

[hallow zenith]

Aw hell nah 💔

[edgy thicket]

I’m snthat the seed

[red thistle]

Too little.

[hybrid tendon]

is this a win chat ?

[hallow zenith]

😔✌️

[hearty tundra]

How long did this take him

[edgy thicket]

Where I find those

For the 52 deck

[floral mural]

on the bugged erratic deck seeds you should primarily swing by on flush fives until you find idol if you wanna do idol build

[red thistle]

He actually lost in this specific video but actually won later on in another one i just couldn't find it.

[hallow zenith]

On tarot packs or on the shop

[edgy thicket]

I have the seed

[floral mural]

and ideally find where a luchador is because the goad exists

[edgy thicket]

It’s just the deck ain’t glitched

Wait

[pale wolf]

+$30 rebate

[red thistle]

Le good.

[floral mural]

the deck glitch happens wirh erratics random generation specifically

[hearty tundra]

I haven’t ever attempted jokerless, is the only strat just get lucky with tarot/spectral/planet cards

[floral mural]

not any other deck

[shell dagger]

Title is “a masterclass in calculated risk”

[hallow zenith]

Guys is erratic a pretty good deck?

[red thistle]

Decent.

[shell dagger]

it’s average for gold stake

[edgy thicket]

With the seeded one

[shell dagger]

maybe slightly below average

[hallow zenith]

I mean... It's pretty good

It's js gambling tho

[red thistle]

Sorta.

[hallow zenith]

Until you find a good seed

[pale wolf]

oh man guess what was in the next shop

[novel rain]

Where did I get this from??

[pale wolf]

square :]

[hallow zenith]

Why do you always use punctuation 😭😭

[hearty tundra]

Was it a blue seal from certificate

[hallow zenith]

Blue seal?? Idk

[red thistle]

Why not, i like my messages like this.

[novel rain]

Ohhh that's probably it

[shell dagger]

you win again

[novel rain]

I think I did have a blue seal in my hand

[edgy thicket]

I got the seed but the deck normal

[hallow zenith]

I mean, it seems more formal lmao

[hearty tundra]

Check your deck

[novel rain]

Yeah I do

[white zodiac]

someone here could use some advice with this tech

[shell dagger]

unsolicited advice but with bus you generally want to use all ur hands

[red thistle]

Might make me sound more serious but i think that's balanced out by my silly pfp.

[floral mural]

take a screenshot next but also that means the seed mihht be bugged in a different way than oops all 10 of spades

[hallow zenith]

Yeah I fw that pfp.

[edgy thicket]

@hallow zenith

[hallow zenith]

Imma use punctuation from now on.

[hallow zenith]

Thanks!

[novel rain]

Ah okay thanks for the advice

[edgy thicket]

Bro

[carmine olive]

I hate how there’s no official date for the update

[edgy thicket]

Then how do I get the oops all 10

Beacuse it don’t work

[barren wigeon]

be patient

[edgy thicket]

@floral mural

How I get oops all 10

[carmine olive]

It’s been agesssssssss thooooooooooo

[red thistle]

Let thunk cook, come on he literally invented balatro.

[carmine olive]

Fair

[red thistle]

You think he can't do the same magic?

[barren wigeon]

there are hundreds of mods to play

[white zodiac]

lest we have another rockstar situation

[floral mural]

its specific seeds that do some wacky shit to erratics generation algorithm look in #1156061354076155944

[barren wigeon]

you have no lacking of content

wait

patiently

[floral mural]

srarch for bugged seeds

[red thistle]

God forbid. Nintendo.

[edgy thicket]

That’s the one I used

Bro

[floral mural]

theres a lot more than one

it aint just one

[edgy thicket]

They all don’t work

[floral mural]

are you running mods?

[edgy thicket]

No

[floral mural]

idk then

[pale wolf]

challenge deck mode activated! aka the credit card thatll never get used

[barren wigeon]

yeah but it looks cool

and shiny

[floral mural]

3 extra dollars for temperance

instant win basically

[red thistle]

Visa card.

[edgy thicket]

Chat what the m mean

[royal bobcat]

m

[edgy thicket]

What it mean

[red thistle]

Jolly joker.

[royal bobcat]

modded, i assume

[edgy thicket]

Really

[royal bobcat]

theres no m in mine

so

[slate lance]

@hardy fable what should i pick

[white zodiac]

skip for red card

[edgy thicket]

Wow

[white zodiac]

unironically hard choice

[edgy thicket]

Anyone got any seeds for modded

[slate lance]

If only i had the knowledge u have

[red thistle]

Too easy, skip to make the game harder.

[slate lance]

Im probably gonna go stuntman tho srsly its not stickered yet

I can make it work

[white zodiac]

they don’t make the greats like they used to nowadays

i’m leaning stunt, chips are often the rarer source of scoring

[red thistle]

This would be so much easier to decide if you knew what was in shop 2.

[shell dagger]

stuntman does something now and stays relevant

id take stuntman

[royal bobcat]

id take card but im biased

[white zodiac]

it’s the first round

[red thistle]

And what did i say andolth.

[shell dagger]

i lost the streak

[white zodiac]

wha

[shell dagger]

about 100k off from vv

[white zodiac]

[royal bobcat]

after how much

[red thistle]

Damn the steak ran away?

[shell dagger]

21

[royal bobcat]

damn

[white zodiac]

despair and agony

[royal bobcat]

im scared of continuing and im at 4

[red thistle]

I think that's as much as vayn on checkered.

[shell dagger]

nah im sure she has higher

[white zodiac]

vayn has twice that much

[royal bobcat]

vayn is pretty good

[red thistle]

Oh boy my info is outdated.

[shell dagger]

i threw by taking eternal juggler

would’ve kept ramen and breezed past

[white zodiac]

pretty much on the nose
#🕹・game-discussion message

[shell dagger]

but it was foil and wanted earlygame security

[royal bobcat]

does vayn have the streak record on checkered?

[shell dagger]

probably

[white zodiac]

as of what we know probably

[red thistle]

She has the bloodstone streak record that's for sure.

[royal bobcat]

treason record

[white zodiac]

oh of course

[pale wolf]

i think i might win this

[white zodiac]

does brooke have the black deck streak record

maybe

[thorny wigeon]

I lost my sanity trying to finish it on black deck

day 3 of trying

this it the funniest Ive done

[red thistle]

It's giga ggs.

[white zodiac]

omg the scribbly

[pale wolf]

i feel like doc should play black deck

[white zodiac]

well i have news

for you

[pale wolf]

:O

did he play black deck????

[white zodiac]

kinda

[pale wolf]

i aint watchin allat

[novel rain]

Psychic just had to come in and ruin everything

[white zodiac]

first 30 seconds is enough

the rest of the vid is just your average run

nothing interesting

[hearty tundra]

How did you possibly get 3 poly lusty jokers

[brazen leaf]

Hmm

[white zodiac]

at 23:55 he says something more ppl should know about

[brazen leaf]

HMMMM

[thorny wigeon]

ankh + invis

[hearty tundra]

That makes sense actually

[thorny wigeon]

I lost

because

[gusty magnet]

???? 😭

what is optimal in this istuation

[thorny wigeon]

there were NO 5 HEARTS IN 2 HANDS and 2 DISCARDS

Classic Balatro

[wheat haven]

I finally won a game and got some stickers

[pale wolf]

i will look

too busy winning

[slate lance]

I love it when space joker triggers zero fuckin times

Holy shit

And im playing pairs ive been.playing a lot.

[wheat haven]

Is space joker meant to trigger? Thought it was bugged

[slate lance]

Yeah??

[wheat haven]

Never seen it happen

[red thistle]

Cmon man really?

I guess we pray for mercury.

[white zodiac]

this is doable

[fringe crest]

this is my typa run

[wheat haven]

How bad is this decision

[woven spire]

you made me go all the way to yt and see it

but yh it’s true lol

This what showman does to celestial packs

[dreamy creek]

jupiter sucks as a planet

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[dreamy creek]

like fym you just barley don't have enough mass to become a star

just get more mass

[pale wolf]

i have one of each edition now

oh I unlocked satellite

I forgot that there was an achievement called nest Egg

weird for the Joker unlock for nest Egg to not be egg

[slate lance]

First win of the day
Got it 2nd try

And all u mail in rebate glazers dont u dare say rebate carried

Also blueprint i only got in the final shop

Pre final boss

So it wasnr a blueprint carry i swear

Anyway 3 new stickers

Wrathful, photo and space

Thank god photos out of the way

I dont have to touch that pos ever again

[dawn forge]

mail in rebate is so peak

[slate lance]

It is not

[dawn forge]

yeah it is

[slate lance]

As i said before

My luck.sucks

I barely got any fucking triggers

[dawn forge]

its a good joker for early and late game

[slate lance]

If ur drawing luck isnt bad

Also my blackboard kinda

Msde it harder to discard freely with rebate

But still

[dawn forge]

also if u have bp bs it prints money

[slate lance]

I didnt have blueprint

Until final shop

Did u read

[wintry ice]

pairs are so inconsistent like i haven't drawn a single one this blind

[dawn forge]

god is good.

[wintry ice]

stupid gold stake players brainwashing the playerbase

[slate lance]

No im.serious i barely got any rebate cards

[wintry ice]

anecdotes mean nothing

[dawn forge]

gold stake is cancer

[slate lance]

Whays an anecdote

[dawn forge]

its just not fun sometimes

anecdote is a story

[slate lance]

Eh ig

[wintry ice]

it's when you base your view on something based on what happened once

[dawn forge]

rental jokers make me so mad

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[dawn forge]

just get oops blud

[slate lance]

Its happened many many times

Its my overall experience with rebate

Which is why i think my opinion on it is fair

Its good but not the best at all

[wintry ice]

"many times" being how often?

you need to discard 1 card for it to be better than golden

[forest rose]

It haunts me

[slate lance]

80% of times i find and grab rebate

[fringe crest]

worst stake debuff in your guys opinions?

[wintry ice]

discarding 2 makes it rival the best econ jokers in the game

and 2 happens to be the average with a completely unmodified deck

[slate lance]

I discarded two maybe a total of omce or twice in this game

And i had rebate since ante 2

[wintry ice]

try using your hands first

[slate lance]

I did.

And also

This run was a run where i needed to use my hands

For pairs

And not only that but pairs with no red cards in the hand

So i had to be very carefyl of what to play and discard

[pale wolf]

nice score

[shell dagger]

nice

[red thistle]

Who needs blue seals.

[slate lance]

Trust me it was harder than it sounds i got so many fucking red cards

[slate lance]

Space joker triggering 0 times for the first 4 antes is so much better than blue seals

[pale wolf]

bootstraps would be bigger than my red card right now

[terse vale]

like no hearts?

[slate lance]

Sadly the only blue seal i got this run was on a heart card which tbh was my mistake for picking

[red thistle]

I was using telescope but yea i guess.

[shell dagger]

i am running simulations rn, you basically never fail with blackboard if your primary discarding strategy is to discard red regardless of enhancements etc

[slate lance]

Diamonds xount as red

[shell dagger]

like it failed

once

[red thistle]

Also great fool management.

[shell dagger]

in 100000 runs

[slate lance]

U dont know my luck.