#🕹・game-discussion
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I don't like it
nah
Anyone got any tips for jokerless other than “make like Daft Punk and get lucky”?
ante 2 is usually the tipping point where I can reasonably sell it
dont like what
because you're getting rid of a third of your scoring
the +30 half joker becomes +20 for the gain of $3
uh huh
x3 becomes an x4.5 👅
Blue seals to scale a planet and gold cards/seals to get money I think from the last time I did it
proof?
yeah
straights or 4oak and above
how do you beat jokerless
sometimes I hear ppl reset if their early game isn't "strong enough"
i reset if i dont get a saturn in the first 4 rounds
:3
(or a straights joker ig)
Was able to do 5 of a kinds earlier thanks to a cryptid in a round 1 spectral skip but the glass cards kept breaking
for jokerless
should I go for straights on black deck
yeah
Im actually struggling on inflation rn
a straights joker
Not a bad idea, just need the shop to cough ‘em up
on jokerless
🦓
orange deck yellow stake done
4oak is an option with early grim or strength
nah id win
been rerolling for like $240 are there no jokers on jokerless or something
Ya thats how I did it
well if you reroll deep enough theres actually a hidden jimbo
1 thousand shops in
true
i'm sorry what?
do you mean yellow deck orange stake?
anyone else think Troubadour joker is worse than black deck?
i did mention that but its so much easier to screw deck fixing and just run with enough straight base scoring to oneshot
saturns op
gold deck purple stake
hell no
handsize my beloved
you can choose to get troub when it's favorable
that's not really the case for black deck
i can turn off black deck whenever i want
Take or skip for red card
no you can also buy black deck from the shop when its favorable
You could do it over rocket I suppose
you can choose to take black deck
doesn't really matter though
why are you comparing the two 😭
not in the middle of a run
cause I had two gold sticker runs die to it
this is more of a lore question, but is there a reason the DL joker has a class C license rather than the standard Class D
why not sell it
one time i took the black deck in the middle of a run cause i needed to grab the license to win
:3
why are you randomly taking it instead of evaluating if you can survive the lowered scoring
probably just didn’t use it in the right way
is it different in canada?
cause gold sticker
because thunk is from Saskatchewan
also this time it was eternal
so I didn't have a choice
still though
just get it when you know you can survive with ut
why not check if you can survive it first
class c licenses are pretty unheard of in america mostly
same thing can be said about black deck though
the -1 hand each round penalty is just way too debilitating imo
Damn
this makes even less sense 😭 class C in canada is for a CDL (passenger)
anyways yeah troubador is a choice that you can decide whether or not to buy into
black deck is a choice to play or not
Gimme rocket back
🤷♂️
so jen has a cdl
if you want to play black deck, you have to stick with it's horrible effects
she's going to school for electrical engineering which makes it strange to already have the licensure like that but
yea
like i was saying earlier you can buy black deck from the shop just like troubador
the canadian equivelant yes (they can drive passenger busses except school buses)
it does make sense if you're going to becoming a solo electrician
gamble? or gamble?
same as a class A cdl (with a P enhancement)
ten dollar coupon
chicken sticks once again
the +1 joker slot is just not as useful as +2 handsize generally
and black deck sucks early game but again these two can’t really be compared
Really enjoying my mime
my personal opinion is that it's more likely to be an american license, this looks nothing like it
image is off google
I find I can do a lot more with +1 joker slot than I can with +2 hand size
-1 hand is debilitating no matter what
this
give me the handsize i can find more blue seals and stuff
if you give me the +1 joker slot im gonna use it for more handsize
and more potential to get the hand you need yyueeeepppp
can i trade my 2 joker slots on black for 2 hand size
that's painted deck
lol
you get to take advantage of a deck effect that isn't placebo with troubador
painted deck my favorite deck in the game
i dont care that the trade also gives me -1 hand
painted deck is so goated
Painted my beloved
source: this image above me
I struggled with gold stake painted deck
if there is a place to ask this to localthunk (if he hasn't already) it would be cool to know
always something i've wondered about
not as much as black deck though
yeah but black deck early game still sucks ass
-1 hand is bad no matter what
depends on tradeoff
I'd much rather have more hands than hand size
i can use the +2 hand size to enable all sorts of things
the joker slot can enable one thing unless its a blueprint or her slightly less talented twin sister
you're comparing apples to oranges
troub is pretty good with gold, blue seals, steel, more potential to draw hands
THATS WHAT IM SAYING
i cant say i know of any hazardous materials an electrical engineer would have to transport, not sure
I'm making the comparison because I'm running into the same problems 🤷♂️
for gold sticker
wee joker might be one of the best jokers
yea
lets me draw all this stuff i feel so powerful
as a terrible deck fixer having more handsize is insane
look at this build i have rn
not the same problem
trooby would make skipping a1 worth it in terms of consistency
Im gonna try and swap out misprint for fib
so i get more mult
misprint thinks he helping out
yea
again apples to oranges
fib would be better
what
THIS IS OP
no
what does this mean 😭
you're comparing a joker to a deck
I meant what I said
Canada's system is somewhat similar to the US. I have a class B cdl in the states that is almost the exact same (however to transport passengers, I need a P enhancement and for materials you need a H enhancement)
Getting one is quite a project so unless she has a side hustle doing bus driving or transporting materials there isn't much reason for this
i think? they were going for "both are citruses"
I'm comparing the -1 hand to -1 hand
nice
you’re being a bit dense
one last thing from the wiki, based on a bluesky post thats been deleted now but did exist
no you're not
could have checked this before, I forgot she was from Colorado
I could say the same for you
I'd rather get -2 hands than -1 hand
youre comparing a joker that gives handsize to a deck that gives joker slots
you are just comparing a joker to a deck there isn’t a real way to compare their downsides
very interesting but am suprised the wiki doesn't even mention the class
maybe this is why they're having problems
shes trans
congrats
im familiar, ive had a class b license before as well
this might be my most favorite build oat
were you licensed in the states (assuming you don't have it anymore)
Except for misprint
yuh
aye one milly from one hand
you guys clearly don't want to engage in the argument I'm making and want to strawman my position
anyways
?
yes i believe jt
congrats ig
very cool. you are the first person i've met with a cdl that doesn't do it full time (unless you do but i assume you surrendered it at some point)
anyways I don't want to continue engaging in this
you’re comparing a deck to a joker thats what you’re doing
i’m saying that you can’t really do that and expect a good argument 😭
I wouldn't either if I had to introduce that topic in the first place
Not the snapchat for a screenshot 😭
its a long story 🦓 but ye cool stuff, piqued my interest
thunk isnt very contactable, there used to be a channel on this server where you could talk to him but it's removed now
ts was my high score
very cool 👍
alas that is a shame, maybe one day we will have the answers 🙏
do i do endless mode?
unless you want a new high score maybe
oh yeah
then I would go into endless
Anyways
How do i upgrade these jokers
i have hack
Blueprint
Wee joker
gros michel
And hanging chad
woah
Make a really big wee
Wee isn’t gonna do much in ante 12 u need to switch to xmult
Like idol
you said you never see the buy/sell buttons on mobile right
but im stacking 2s
double chicot
I got to ante 14 with wee 🫡
yeah i gathered
hallo
does your phone have an adjustable long press setting?
path to a campfire and select "smith"
just adjustment for how long a press has to be for it to be considered tap and hold
timewise
Lemme check
wonder if im going to see the buy and sell buttons
i think it might be the secret to mobile buy/sell buttons
little too close for comfort
i hate Bloodstone
why are you disabling the boss twice
naneinf
Dayum
basically the way chicot works is by doing the opposite of the boss effect, if you have two you can do fun stuff with some bosses
i'd grimbo here
alright i have made it to ante 10
And i think this run is fucked
i have 0 discards
and one hand left
grimbo is safer
WHAT
My score requirement is 2.2 million
both are pretty good
also i died, i didnt get a single good chip options
what do i do
did you find idol?
my highest level hand is high card
no
Ruh roh
perhaps it's different on ios, not sure about it
ios has their own schticks
Like can you even make the buttons show up on iOS
DV8TZAB1 if someone is smarter than me and wants to do something with kt
OH WAIT
the search in ios settings is laughably bad
or is it Android only
their settings are buried for the most part
or is always changing every couple of software updates
chat do i give up any of my jokers for polychrome baseball?
what does that prisoner one do
rocket probably
actually wait it's slightly more than blackboard
prisoner
11 bucks per round tho...
at the start of the round it gets rid of all discards and gives u +3 hands
it can be copied by blueprint so it's 6 extra hands for me
good point
sell burglar for bbc
damn
we ended up 50k short anyway. oh well
the hell??
wgat
sell blueprint for baseball
start highing ur card rn
new blue stake: all planets give -5 chips per level
what
as in like
they give 5 less chips than in previous stakes
or planets decrease chips
what about this one
lowkey 5 chips is a bit weak
x0.67 on your pairs
bonus? they barely know us!
i have never had an early joker choice like this
riff can also make econ
instant w or instant w
and i already have scoring now
neither is wrong
skip for red card value
first trumpet ahhh alert
is purple stake considered a low stake
depends on who you ask
well shit
anything below gold stake is low stake gameplay wise
nice
stuntman yay or nay
i consider high stakes purple+
jolly joker for future motebook value
tis the start of high stakes gameplay
guys is red stake considered high stake
ur mom
👀
sell crafty joker and start playing number pairs
get stuntman
selling both except rtb is ideal
Hot take lord of the rings is ass
Getting real tired of the game deciding to put me in an unwinnable scenario the second I start tbh
There are almost no unwinnable scenarios
what the shit
What
why did bro ran outta kings crotato
I was doing aces not kings
I hate Bloodstone
You hate fun
ewwwwwwwwww
the incredible fun of making my cards sble to force a loss
is ice cream a hard sticker?
cotton candy UI :3
*bloodstone but good
its literally the same joker idk what youre talking about
devious and golden ticket gold sticker!! 
This bots
Pair=win
karma'd...
ante 2 first shop
oh
thats a lot of xmult
you dont need to sell it anyway
madness doesnt need card activation jokers to win
That is the difficulty spike for sure
guys am i cooked
here's a little story:
(everytime I play with stuntman I play "gas gas gas" from intial D)
give it to me straight doc
your heart is attacking you
yep
heart attack imminent
wall incoming?
violet vessel
were good!
GG
its beautiful🥹
no i like winning
bloodstone is fun and winning is fun
oxymoron
bloodstone and winning are mutually exclusive terms
i have had multiple fun winning bloodstone runs you morons
"hey mr ant tenna, whats an oxymoron?"
anecdotal
two words used together that contradict eachother
yeah like "bloodstone" and "fun"
me winning is fact
its fun idc
i will win a bloodstone run right now if i have to
@serene forge how do you react so fast dude
i click fast
ig bro
HI! most annoying person you've ever encountered here! I noticed the post you took 3 seconds to type doesnt line up with every experience I've ever had or could possibly conceive in my head. This is extremely harmful to me, the main character of the universe
damn i forgot how to gold stake it seems
rocket can you be eternal please
Grab hologram for a scifi run
you dont think i did
i like winning thank you very much
got so addicted to the game that you made a second file to c++ ?
i made the second file yes, but we're a long way away from c++ there...
red deck gold stake whoopin my ass
are you going deck by deck or stake by stake on it ?
deck by deck
The statistics for this account are very good considering I created it two or three weeks ago.
been playing for 6 months now and my highest is e18 :<
noob
I’ve been playing for like a year and mine is about e25
But highkey I don’t play endless
#MOGGEDBYNANLET
I've been playing for about 3 months, but I created this account 2-3 weeks ago.
my naneinf profile
"naneinf"
only naneinf'ed once
son.
oh
well
i forgot that naneinf resets hs
yeah i forgor
What surprises me most is the money.
imagine if you got 1 more dollar
over 6000 is crazy
also please don't call me son
bros putting up roffle numbers
i use son gender neutrally 💔 ✌️
6 7…
it wasn't that hard to do lol
Anyone still remember this on the balatro mobile launch?
i could have probably had 10k+ at one point but in all the runs where i have a bazillion dollars i have to lose my econ engine too late
is this good
red seal mime is good
not really
I used that alone and it beat it
guys should i trade something for blueprint or nah
I mean it works yeah, doesn't mean it's good exactly
ecto stencil? (first of the run)
I'm using high card level 9
11 actually
wait should i sell something for blueprint?
The answer is almost always yes
what's your things ?
sometimes no tho
this
they are all base
how much is throwback at ?
I had a run yesterday where it was worse to buy it
chad walkie talk acrobat hack and trowback
A large majority of the time its best
and it was not perishable or eternal or rental
its on three x
Sell acrobat for blueprint
Throwback
throwback
It's never hack seeing as your +mult is walkie talkie. Chad would be more, and even more than that would be copying walkie talkie, but since you have xMult it's always just copy throwback
ok
Also is the throwback holographic? It kinda looks holo but I cant quite tell
it is
if this is a trib i'm going back to the start
Put hack infront of throwback in the joker order for a bit more scoring
IT WAS A TRIB...
lmaoooo
ok
i'm running flush house with aces and 10s of diamonds
Erm ok
most of my kings gone already
Your first mistake was building towards 10s...
But that walkie talkie value...
4s >>
Trur
it works ig
gonna get high card level 20
Why are 4s better?
hack
bro :(
mogged by nanlet
am I genius
are you?
I'm new
are you?
how much is throwback at
2.5
no, you probably have mime or dusk for no reason and you're using throwback while having a scaling joker
this is bad
can we also talk about how ur using dusk in a highcard run
i mean tbf he is surpassing the scoring requirement
i didnt win a run till 12 hours into the game
my bad for not knowing what a flush five is and noot beating the game already
yea pretty decent
just a couple minor optimizations to be made but that ofc comes with experience
but overall
in your hand
so that would mean blue seals steel cards and gold cards
and other hand effects
not the played hand
foil and holographics
and those ye
now it has negative synergy with dusk and splash
because you want a higher hand size and you are scoring with 5 cards
dusk is if Im losing
Ride the buss diff
Poly skip pls work for once
Hack
dude I said a majority of the time chill out 😭😭
no
Can I make this work place your bets
ante 7 needle on my card sharp runs pmo
Ok
is it better to take mime or get more blueprints?
yoou
blue seal things
is it better and what for
Do I replace the dusk one
it counts all my high cards
I’d sell splash
I think u prolly take it
It really doesn't do THAT much
That’s just not a big difference in scoring
Compared to the 1.5x from dusk
A few extra chips, maybe some enchancements
my high cards have good buffs ig
If they’re well buffed you prolly don’t need a bunch of random other cards
That splash provides
I can't rlly destroy any
lmao
I have polychrome steel retriggering kings deck, with some poly retriggering glass mixed in. is it worth pivoting off trib rn?
Eh do u need dna
Extra hand size for baron
without dna my baron becomes worthless cuz I have 6 hand size and dna is like +3
IMO splash
ik but splash accounts for my enhanced cards
I don't know which is more efficient
Show a screenshot of the deck pls
yea
Odds are the 1.5x mult > splash value
Those are mostly held in hand effects so splash isn’t super useful here
alr
that pareidolia is so useful
its polychrome :)
Just for the 1.5x
But still won 🏆
Banner was not doing shit either I was just desperate for x mult
okay I think I pivot off baron and go all in on trib rn
u were right
and ditch the dna
YES
you can move jokers around
how
so u can have it copy whatever the best joker in that moment is
what do I do tho
What are your hand levels? If they’re high enough I’d sell mystic summit
What are some tips for green deck on higher steaks
if u have a winning hand you can have it copy the mime and get more off the gold cards you are holding. if your glass card gets big you can move it to copy that instead for a high scoring hand
high card 33
Yeah sell mystic summit, copying baseball card will be crazy strong
Yeah
like this
what deck should i gold stake
Painted
TRUE
situationally u might have it copy something else though, like if you were playing a hand that would accomplish something other than winning (aka money)
it would be great if I got that
I have question is hieroglyph worth buying
what's its point
i mean its only that strong bc my deck is like this
95 Kings bro
the point is it debuffs you by removing a hand or discard, but it lowers the score requirements and gives you more time to find better jokers and fix your deck
how do you lose with this
ohh
guh
I think I should have more hands because it wants to take my hand
the score requirements are getting higher
ill show u
are they incrediosuly exponential
yeah

wow
not the full game
u have to unlock more decks that do special things
and win on them
and then u can add difficulty modifiers too
called stakes
can't wait
well
I would stream 1 round but I can't because there is no voice chat on this server
what the hell
I'd show u what my build does
sure
I could prolly find a youtube short or something where someone did basically the same thing
aight hold on
the clutch cavendish
add me rq
do you have gold stake wins on every card?
https://medal.tv/games/balatro/clips/lEJmPurCe5FJo4Es_?invite=cr-MSxsVEwsMTc3ODQ5OTI3 first stickerless gold stake win woo
Watch Untitled by fosu and millions of other Balatro videos on Medal. #balatro
Holy rentals
It unlocks Antimatter which adds a joker slot
gives u a chance to get anti matter
👀
though to first unlock anti matter in a run you have to redeem it 10 times in previous runs
ohh
blank is pretty good if you get it early on and if you have the econ for it but if you get it in like ante 5-6 ish theres not a big chance you can get anti matter later on
and if you do get it early on and you dont have money its not really worth breaking the bank over it
its a gamble
I never take blank
yeah on my c++ account its not on my stats lol
Yeah shit is not worth
Blank is a voucher that does nothing
C++ account too
take it if you can reliably afford to and it won't tank your econ
because antimatter is so good it's worth 20 dollars
lololol
I love bbc
Bbc goes hard
yes
15 streak :3
cav came back, sold a 1x canio for constellation
i had a dream i had canio pareidolia trading card perkeo with hanged man in my consumables
but i was like 'wait i have no +mult' and i got so confused i woke up
do you guys think raised fist needs a buff?
Good tempo joker
No
Not much else to say honestly
Rough gem on the other hand
stencil + stencil + stencil is my favorite build rn
Square also useless past ante 4
the full eternal stencil build
loud incorrect noise

i think it's one of the better jokers, just one flush per round and it's good value, also has some of the best scaling and player control for money generation.
add more diamonds to your deck
retriger effects
gain more discards
you also don't have to flush which is the cool part
one of the idols goes
One Idol, you dont need that many
Okay
Well I've gotten like 4 invisibles
They're my friends :3
sold idol for dusk, got blueprint the next round lol
i assume one of the tribs goes
I hate Bloodstone
rough gem + chad makes me bust it doesnt need a nerf
love that little quirk
i got another invis
It really doesn't
If your going to nerf an econ joker
Nerf rebate
@lunar zealot I heard you liked bbc value
BABSBEA
BABBEELAL
BABESLL
BABSBEALL
BABSBEKAL
you need another xmult joker
Bbc
BASBEBAL
lebron james is a good baseball playar
Is bbc good
like this ?
Fuck you
one deleted message
skill issue
Yup
“images taken before disaster”
I'll keep trying. Gotta hex first joker i see
hang man disappears when you get canio tho
me when i hex popcorn
me when i hex blueprint (i cant even buy it in shop 1)
What do I sell for brainstorm?
I've gotten rare skip blueprint and died right after
bloodstone
very surprising
just completed C >:3
hell yea
gold sticker on michel and canio incoming maybe ?
just pray michael doesn’t leave 😭
hell yeahhhhhhhhh
3rd gold stake win btw


Can someone explain to me what Erosion do exactly? I’ve never truly understand what this joker does so I’ve never took it in my runs
any deck other than abandoned = 52 cards
abandoned deck = 40 cards
lets say youre on red deck
I play abandoned a lot
+4 mult per card for every card under the base deck size
which is 52 normally or 40 for abandoned
Oh
hanged man is obviously good
if you add 2 cards back, erosion goes back to +0 mult
Please don't die please don't die
Is it viable for any runs?
adding cards in any way is very bad for erosion
it can be
so uhh if you want to use erosion dont add cards
unless maybe if it has blue or purple seal
then I would add that card
it scales fast but can be inconsistent and not being able to add cards is bad for other good jokers like hologram
It pairs well with trading card I imagine
yep
youre welcome
Hi chat
hi polychrome ceremonial dagger
Playing ouija every time for the 3/13 chance i get a face card. 😫
I'm going to hit
never stop gambling
why does it matter if it's a face card?
Face card jokers go harder and i just understand how to build around the better than others like hack or something else
And i typically get rid of any low numbers bc I'm the raised fist cult leader
Free 20 mult if you used immolate
Idc if im throwing unless i REALLY REALLY want the win and there is 0 chance of victory if I take raised fist
Ill take raised fist
raised fist is a lot simpler to use than you're making it out to be
R u joking
just play/discard all the low cards
Seeing VV makes me irrationally angry
Any joker can become viable if u know what ur doing that whats makes this game so special
Yes i do that but you can't always do that if ur playing a higher ranked hand and you're out if discards
Removing low cards out your deck just makes it easier to get raised fist value and removing cards in general helps you get the cards you want
Especially if ur running seals
Them seal runs be different
Everytime
true, getting seals (or even more important in a raised fist run: steel cards) can help a lot
Nice job man
Ive never gotten raised fist steel red seal
Or atleast even a notable red seal steel card run
raised fist with steels goes hard even if they're not red seal
The steel procs first so if your lowest is your steel and you only have 1 it sucks
I wish it were possible to have the joker order affect how the end hand order was calculated
When it hits and you have baron stm or hit the road ur up
that's why you put the steel on your highest cards
I hate the eye
if you just get lucky and get the glitched erratic deck seed randomly and find idol you just win
I havent unlocked erratic
wasn't that bug fixed?
If ur not gambling on the gambling game idk man
this isn't a gambling game
Close enough
this is like saying an elite fight in slay the spire is gambling because you might lose
Shat even is the literal definition of gambling
"if I'm good at it it's a game of skill and if I'm not it's a gambling game" ~several gamers
Ok this is gambling with fake money so it isnt gambling
Virtual gambling
But virtual gambling is actually real they have websites now
I always gamble skips
It depends on the skip and the deck
Black deck idc im not seeing that first shop
I take the first skip every time
anaglyph deck negative tag is alright
it's arguably the best skip in the game and even then it's just alright, not great
Thats the best tag deck
sort of puts it in perspective how bad most skips are
Skipping is the whole point on anaglyph so its always good to do it
The question is how many tags do you save before you skip???
Watching ur money inflate from 3 investments is also cool
that's mainly a matter of when a good enough skip shows up
Whats ur favorite skip
Guys, what should I do next?
select the 5 cards and set up a rube goldberg machine that clicks play hand
I do poly on ghost just for the fun of it
😭
I did that like a few days ago i had double and poly ante 1 i took it and i forgot what i got
My first shop only had 1 joker in it
I sold the hex and rerolled for the 2nd
When those tags hit it feels great
I think i won that
But 90% its dog shit
I forget what i go
Yeah alot of the joker related tags are just ass
Coupon can be ass too
Does anyone take the D6 tag?
In theory it feels like it'd be really good as you get like 3 rerolls before you spend the original 5 but I've never actually taken it
The next time im mid game and I'm joker hunting I'm gonna take it
Flash card actually goes hard and turns d6 into a really good tag
Mmm damn flash card might be good
I swear its a weak joker unless you already have a good build
There are so many other thingd to spend money on instead of rerolling just to reroll
I hate Bloodstone
Killed by the Pillar.
I realized how scary the Pillar is when you have Lucky Cards and using nothing but Two Pair. Only to see all of them Debuffed. Welcome to hell.
i love @hybrid tendon
EVERYTHING
I LOVE YOU TOOOOO
Nothing changes
for real

Is this as tough of a choice as I think it is?
Green Joker
I was just thinking I was leaning trading card lol
merry andy gold sticker 
Hit the road is amazing
I hate Bloodstone
the single most underrated card
i love hrt
Literally no one loves bloodstone
not a tough choice
WE GET IT
green joker
Htr?
its hrt
Hit the road jack and don’t you come back
Hormone replacement therapy?
no more no more no more
I love purple seals
And blue seals
Order of top ten seals of all time
- Purple
- Blue
- Red
- Gold
- Leopard seal
Hit the road is dumb
Nah leopard seals eat each other
no
Hi quick question, in a mime baron DNA build what's best to copy, saying you have both blueprint and brainstorm
Oh then you dont know how to build a htr build
Red should be higher
Someone got slightly mad
I’m just saying even if you aren’t building around a jack
No it fucking isn’t
Yes it literally is
Purple seal should be first
Nah
blue
Red seal got me my highscore
how yall all wrong
highscores dont matter
yall be making up things cuz wtf is a blue seal 😭
they are a completely different game
Shush your opinion doesnt matter
A seal that’s blue
endless is never taken into consideration for these kinds of things
leopard seal is my favorite tho it should be higher
Bro what
Ikr
Ohhh it was an sarcasm
i like captain tuck and his seals
I love stuntman
i love hrt
Okay back to studying byebye
i like rainbow seal
Hrt?

