🕹・game-discussion

[heavy heron]

i’d choose devil over hermit any day for my fools

[void topaz]

instant 40 bucks is like

[uncut matrix]

either hermit, good planets like saturn or mercury, devil are fine, suit changers situational ig

[void topaz]

really good

[heavy heron]

who said instant?

you have to get $20 first

and then

find a hermit first

[cunning basin]

What's the worst tarot card?

[void topaz]

dawg

[void topaz]

lovers

[uncut matrix]

true

[cunning basin]

Fair

[uncut matrix]

isnt it getting reworked

[void topaz]

i personally never use justice but thats cause i dont like it breaking

[cunning basin]

But wild cards work with ancient joker and bloodstone

[heavy heron]

you need to survive ante 1 and enter ante 2 with at least 1 joker, it’ll be mid ante 2 or late ante 2 before you have $20 and NOW you have to find a hermit for your fools to work

[void topaz]

its good for plant though

[latent egret]

and dont work with 4 bosses

[heavy heron]

way better usage on planets or devils

my opinion

[uncut matrix]

2x tho

[void topaz]

yeahhhh but like ew

[heavy heron]

justice is free deck fixing

[void topaz]

its good for saving you if needed

[heavy heron]

99% of the time i use it

[void topaz]

itll never break then

[heavy heron]

they always break for me :)

even when i don’t want them to..

[uncut matrix]

if you dont want them to break dont use them

only break in case of emergency

[heavy heron]

well i do want them to break, that’s wh y i put it on useless cards

[cunning basin]

Do yall really belive Wheel is a 1 in 4 chance, cuz I don't

[lament bronze]

its more so like the collection of chances of editions rounds up to 1 in 4

its not a 1in4 then roll for an edition

its more so like 16% chance for a foil

so on so forth

[cunning basin]

Oooooooooh

[lament bronze]

technically it should work like 1in4 in actual statistics

because out of 100 events 25 of them are favorable

but with the way the game already handles probability in its own mechanic, its different than the one we already see

more like how hone works

[pale wolf]

source? is this based on the code

[shell dagger]

they amount to the same thing right

[pale wolf]

because how does oops work with it then

[lament bronze]

yeye I just dont know the specific ones but its all a sum of 25% by the end

[wanton loom]

pretty neat opening draw

[shell dagger]

rolling for a success then rolling for an edition would be much easier to code with oops

[pale wolf]

are you sure you're not conflating the edition odds for normal generated Jokers

[lament bronze]

still doubles probability, I dont mean its completely antithetical to something like bloodstone but it really doesnt work as you might think

[serene forge]

NO

[lament bronze]

because yknow one might think its a 1in4, then 70% chance of foil, decreasing between stronger editions

[pale wolf]

I would really like to see some source for your information

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[fervent wolf]

Took you a little while to answer....you must have REALLY considered it...

[serene forge]

fuck you i have a family

[shell dagger]

if it just rolled for an edition you’d need to change 3 values when you have oops

that sounds stinky

[fervent wolf]

Me too

[serene forge]

you have a lesbian family

[lament bronze]

HI! most annoying person you've ever encountered here! I noticed the post you took 3 seconds to type doesnt line up with every experience I've ever had or could possibly conceive in my head. This is extremely harmful to me, the main character of the universe

[serene forge]

the rest of my family is straight

[fervent wolf]

It's negative to be Merry in the Dna

[pale wolf]

Go fuck yourself you sourceless piece of shit

your claims are wrong

until proven otherwise

[serene forge]

this but unironically

you're annoying as hell

[pale wolf]

Make a passive aggressive stupid post like that and get the same attitude back

[serene forge]

zamn

yall hate happiness

[pale wolf]

merry in the dna

corey in the house

[void topaz]

rich get rich is pissing me off rn

I WANNA REROLLLL

[ripe gull]

hi smug

[long warren]

this game can be fun sometimes

[vale wharf]

Steel baron 😋🤤

[void topaz]

rich get richer kinda pmo but were through

who needs chips when you have all the mult

[long warren]

• base chips and mult are now 0

[void topaz]

was that old flint

[long warren]

no. thankfully

just a mod

absolute torture

[void topaz]

then what are you refrencing

ohhh

[long warren]

Don't remember the name

[void topaz]

nah but trust i get +20 from lucky

[long warren]

but it basically made the game horribly unfair

[slate lance]

YOU ARE NOT NOELLE

HOW DARE U

[long warren]

it's literally my name

[slate lance]

Change itt >:[

[long warren]

No.

[slate lance]

:[[

[void topaz]

is onthe knifes edge bassicaly jokerless but annoying

[hybrid tendon]

deltarune brainrot got to you

[long warren]

Although i have been told i should change it to dess

[empty seal]

where did you find the score calc, cant find it on the mod manager

[slate lance]

No lol? U can have jokers just need to keep one or more slots free for knife

[void topaz]

its part of the multiplayer mod

[empty seal]

oh

[void topaz]

thats soo cringe though

[slate lance]

If u buy at least one joker a shop u can keep up to 3 jokers given no negatives

[slate lance]

How so

[empty seal]

thats annoying

[slate lance]

Its a challenge

[void topaz]

im playing it jokerless fuck that

[slate lance]

😭 sure..

[fluid latch]

Chat what do i replace, Chad right?

[slate lance]

Dont do it

[fluid latch]

[slate lance]

Yk whats gonna happen to u if u did

🛻

[long warren]

I already get hit by cars/trucks enough

[fluid latch]

Nooo i cant send gifs

😔

[slate lance]

Yeah it sucks

[fluid latch]

I was gonna send burgentruck

[hybrid tendon]

download the gif

[fluid latch]

[long warren]

[slate lance]

Driving in the bus
Right after the plant

[void topaz]

LMAO

[long warren]

Ever been hit by a ford f150

[long warren]

Those things hurt

[fluid latch]

Lmao why can I send it as a video but not as a gif

[void topaz]

BRO WHAT IS THIS SEED

[fluid latch]

Curious choice

[fluid latch]

Nutty

[slate lance]

In gta maybe

[zinc cloud]

I’m completely fucked

[void topaz]

anyway time for perkeo to be eatne

[fluid latch]

But I replace the chad right, that should be better

[zinc cloud]

Can’t get econ without losing my only scoring

[long warren]

[fluid latch]

[long warren]

I have

[void topaz]

i can only feed the right dagger lol

[fluid latch]

What do u need econ for with such a specialized build

[zinc cloud]

Cause the build is shit 🤣

[long warren]

Then start over and come up with a better build

[buoyant bison]

do I sell trib 💔

[zinc cloud]

Needed baron or mime rather than sock

[zinc cloud]

Not often you find 2 bp and brainstorm in unseeded tho

Gutted

[buoyant bison]

photo

[fluid latch]

Nice

[fluid latch]

Too late i already executed Chad😔

[long warren]

Not often you get four negatives either

[lament bronze]

Gifs are banned because they derailed conversation. You can post them if they were a file and dont have dot tenor inside them

[long warren]

let alone negative bloodstone

[lament bronze]

Dot tenor or dot gif in the name of the file will be searched by the automod and obliterate you

Let alone links

[pale wolf]

You already won so no, you sell brainstorm

its tenordotcom That is on the filter

[fluid latch]

Chat is the Flint enough to reroll with this kinda score(I already had both the hearts and face card boss)

[pale wolf]

tenor. is completely typable

[lament bronze]

.tenor

Oh yeah

[empty seal]

trib is just a trib

brainstorm could be anything

even a trib

[lament bronze]

Then which one was the dot word that got banned too

[fluid latch]

Hmm yeah fair enough

[lament bronze]

Was thinking of dot gif

[pale wolf]

dotgif To handle most other embedded gifts

[lament bronze]

The file format itself isn't banned though

[bleak hemlock]

awwww look. a gay vagabond

[pale wolf]

got to be careful testing some of these filter things because some of them just automatically time you out

[pale wolf]

I'm not sure if they actually can do that

at least not natively

[lament bronze]

Not without banning embeds altogether iirc? Or at least they talked about doing so but then again:

Images and videos are kind of needed for any discussion

[tame sluice]

mood gorning

[lament bronze]

I'm sure if they can talk banning embeds fully as an option it should be possible

Even if with a specific bot

[fluid latch]

W 2 glass 😋😤😤

[pale stag]

Im on the final stretch for completionist++, those are my last 12.
I'm not sure how to finish tho
should I go for uncommons/rare tag with Anaglyph deck or stay with ghost deck ?

[lament bronze]

Yeah that I forgot it's just straight up an option instead of an enforced thing by automod

[pale wolf]

I think the way they did it now is pretty optimal, it facilitates conversation and stops people from disrupting

[void topaz]

damn i almost won there just wasnt enough death in the seed

[fluid latch]

Is bloodstone or dusk better to copy

[oblique matrix]

IT SCALES WITH DISCARDS

[lament bronze]

Plus anyone willing enough to do a meme can just do it if they change a name

And post it

[fluid latch]

Crazy out of context holy moly

[lament bronze]

Though the stickers ban that's DAMN

[pale wolf]

I don't think it looks at the names of files, it's just for links and messages and stuff

or else it would be impossible to upload gifs entirely

[buoyant bison]

🤑 🤑 🤑 🤑 🤑

when we needed him most

[pale wolf]

since they necessarily end in dotgif

[lament bronze]

I dunno, it failed once for me when I did have a tenor downloaded gif with tenor dot on its name but it might have been anything else

But yeah if not then it's just about downloading and posting a gif file for the meme

So it is allowed, just discouraged enough to keep it low

[white zodiac]

just takes a couple more seconds

[vale wharf]

Should I buy heiroglyph?
Boss is crimson heart

And any changes to build?

Any help is appreciated

[pale wolf]

tenordotcomdotgif(dotgif)

[buoyant bison]

how much are you scoring

[lament bronze]

Enough to stop most people from spamming one at the ready

[ripe gull]

zebra how have you like tripled your message count since last time i checked

[buoyant bison]

if you have a reasonable amount of levels you should be fine

[vale wharf]

100k+ with high card

[ripe gull]

like 4 months ago

[pale wolf]

no way

[ripe gull]

last i checked it was like 33k i thought

[pale wolf]

honestly plausible

[lament bronze]

Okay I'm not getting automodded by trying to show them more

[pale wolf]

this is my current interest

[lament bronze]

Sticker ban is actually just draconian in comparison

[pale wolf]

I tend to only have one interest

[ripe gull]

anyway i give up on going for funny stencil on the seed

[lament bronze]

Gif ban is somewhat expected on any server greater than fan made ones

[vocal rose]

balatro isnt balanced

[ripe gull]

because black stake means i cant get midas and bp first shop and i dont wanna optimize without one

[lament bronze]

But if the mods would have been able to take away image rights they would have

[pale wolf]

this is horrifying

[vale wharf]

What a fuckin' start

[white zodiac]

they don't know true pain

[pale wolf]

[latent egret]

useless ahh telescope voucher smh

[vale wharf]

How?

[white zodiac]

there could be an exception for ppl that crop their images

[latent egret]

square makes it so that you dont actually need the chips from planets

[vale wharf]

True...

[exotic orchid]

Why you should always turn all your numbered cards jnto glass cards in a photo chad build.

[vale wharf]

I'll still keep getting those plutos, though

[lament bronze]

Any semblance of whimsy that isn't absolutely necessary is to be destroyed and outlawed

[ripe gull]

yea fair i burnt out after the 2 100% and gamblemax 100%

and i suck too bad at playing gs because i dont like playing slow to do that

[white zodiac]

im in favor of targeted ableism

[pale wolf]

I also don't actually play that much compared to discussion and making emotes and stuff

I still don't have 200 hours

[ripe gull]

yea fair

oh...

im at 621...

[white zodiac]

yeah somehow you have more than triple the amount of activity than me

[pale wolf]

I mean you did 3 100% and have 3x the playtime

[white zodiac]

here

[lament bronze]

Autism is necessary for the functioning of the server, any further is on the mods chopping block if not for the fact it's also necessary to actually talk about the game

[pale wolf]

That makes sense

[ripe gull]

true

though 2nd 100% was faster

and 3rd was gamblemax

so it evens out ig

[white zodiac]

i can allow autism

they're what makes the gears spin

[ripe gull]

i forget does seeded count for stats page

[white zodiac]

yes

[lament bronze]

Who else will give out the same advice to the 393u37373rd random who JUST started the game and needs a quick red pill otherwise?

[ripe gull]

alr i might go into seeded and perkeo spam a bunch of wheel judgement for the stats page to be funnier

[pale wolf]

although I would definitely get another C++ much faster than I did the first one, it wouldn't be 150 hours

[lament bronze]

Honestly I get that the game is amazing and popular in memes and stuff but I can't believe the constant flux of new people to yell at

[ripe gull]

yea

my 2nd took like

[latent egret]

we need to have mandatory 5 hours of balatroU with test to be able to access the server

[ripe gull]

50 hours prob

[lament bronze]

Like it's going to be 2 years old and it's a random roguelike

[ripe gull]

most of my playtime is endless or random stuff

[pale wolf]

gamblemaxx mustve killed

[ripe gull]

i think it prob took a little over 200

[unreal island]

Gg

[ripe gull]

maybe 250

[ripe gull]

i got spoiled sadly

cant do

[latent egret]

smh 4 tries

[pale wolf]

balatrodle spoilers

i got in 3

[empty seal]

we should teach everyone that flushes are goated

[pale wolf]

but damn it's a tough one today

[latent egret]

it the first thime in a while i guess the joker with all green and thats the right one

[ripe gull]

doesnt help that balatroodle has a loose definition of some of its rules

[brazen loom]

What should I blueprint on plasma deck

[latent egret]

||isn't a 5$ guess more optimal for 2nd||

[unreal island]

Idk i think it defines them well

[empty seal]

||wouldn't banner technically be scaling since it loses chips based on your discards||

[latent egret]

it uses the same words as the genral discourse but not the same way and that can be confusing

[ripe gull]

as i said lol

[pale wolf]

honestly the definitions are pretty well defined, except that ||invis and misprint both have values on the card that change? and arent scaling? whats up with that||
I don't know about any other exceptions

[ripe gull]

well most ||scaling|| things arent rly well done imo

[pale wolf]

but as it describes in the website, everything besides those two as far as I know are completely accurate

[ripe gull]

it does it more logically rather then what you would think would be

[pale wolf]

yeah I think it's just people not reading the rules
It's a very balatro site

[ripe gull]

well like snova not being scaling i believe

while yes the joker itself doesnt scale

it does scale with other things and it just kinda makes it weird

[latent egret]

it uses the same words as the general discourse but not the same way and that can be confusing

[empty seal]

i go to the store and ask "is this site wordle or balatro"

the shopkeeper is confused

i pull out a diagram explaining what things are wordle and which are balatro

the shopkeeper laughs and tells me "don't worry ma'am. its a good site."

i look inside

its balatro

[heady narwhal]

i'd guess it was for superposition

[pale wolf]

I can understand getting confused once or twice, but consistently while playing it over weeks? That's a skill issue, just read the rules and get it down

[empty seal]

||banner should definitely be scaling then||

[pale wolf]

||Go show me the changing value displayed on banner||

[latent egret]

do you think del grat is scaling then ?

cause you can get more discards during a run

[pale wolf]

if it actually showed the payout that you would get that round, it would be

[empty seal]

||i could swear it says "currently +XX chips" but i don't have a banner run at hand rn so i could be wrong lol||

[abstract rivet]

by that definition all scoring jokers are scaling

[pale wolf]

it doesn't, I checked

[abstract rivet]

because you can get more hands during a run with vouchers

[ripe gull]

what

[empty seal]

ah

[ripe gull]

me when i use the

idek logic

[abstract rivet]

its why the del grat is scaling argument doesn't work

[ripe gull]

delgat is scaling in terms of what we define not in the rules set by balatroodle

[pale wolf]

I think it's actually very valid though, something like bootstraps or bull read a value and then also display the result of it on the joker so they count as scaling
banner is almost identical except that it doesn't show the result

what.

14

what.

[pale wolf]

Like what if I don't know how to multiply by 30

Bull already assumes that you don't know how to multiply by 2

[latent egret]

but del grat does

smh inconsistency with game design unplayable

[ripe gull]

wow a discussion about the inconsistency of balatros game design

never heard this one before

[pale wolf]

matadorian conversation

[unreal island]

Gaining money like a boss

[pale wolf]

Liek a baaaaauuuwwssss

[calm epoch]

ah yes lemme play some
Maladro

[unreal island]

Baron studios?

[ripe gull]

baladro

[unreal island]

Way to call yourself inconsistent

[calm epoch]

LMAOO

[unreal island]

Hallmark of a bad balatro remake is how good baron is

[bleak hemlock]

pwetty

[unreal island]

In one of the roblox remakes i played baron was the strongest xmult

[calm epoch]

wild lesbian spotted

[unreal island]

Mainly because it was the only xmult

[calm epoch]

💀

[pale wolf]

stolen assets be like

[tranquil steppe]

I just played a run where 0 x mults popped up the entire game but thankfully BP + burnt and steel and glass cards carried me

[slow iris]

shitty recreation on a shitty platform love to see it

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[pale wolf]

I forgot how funny this music video is
"nope.
actually im pretty sure you did.
nah, that aint me."

[void topaz]

i wonder what my joke ris

[serene forge]

balatrodle in 3

[void topaz]

i basssicaly beat knifes edge joker less

[calm epoch]

how many runs did that stone make you lose that you enter the chat with this specific sentence all the time 😭

[void topaz]

like its at +34 but who cares

[buoyant bison]

😅

[hybrid tendon]

balatrodle in 5

[pale wolf]

I already know the answer I wanted to see your process

😭

[calm epoch]

sadly i now know the answer too so it wouldnt be fair to do balatrodle now

😭

[void topaz]

oh wtf the xray vision challenge is gonna be the hardest yet ahhh

[pale wolf]

[buoyant bison]

I pulled the trigger

now how do I make this guy useful 💔

[hybrid tendon]

me ?

[hybrid tendon]

I'm just fucking up

[serene forge]

NO

[pale wolf]

impressive

[void topaz]

insane riff raff pull

[hybrid tendon]

there you go for the process, I'm bad at this

[pale wolf]

anyone

[pale wolf]

oh no

[hybrid tendon]

look it's like my 3rd balatrodle ever okay...

[nova mantle]

im very proud to say im now 5 rounds away from photo to step off the top 2

my stats are slowly healing

[hybrid tendon]

awesome

[calm epoch]

w

[pale wolf]

||theres other things but i think most useful here is that blackboard's xmult being a miss meant Jimbo's +mult was already confirmed false, it wouldve been yellow||

[hybrid tendon]

I didn't know that at all lol

[pale wolf]

yeah they're close to each other, and walkie talkie/scholar are "close" to all other scoring 😭

[hybrid tendon]

ohh

[calm epoch]

thats wild

[desert niche]

choice paralasis

[pale wolf]

burnt imo, although not for flushes, pair pivot
if you aren't willing to do that and want to stick to the flush for gluttonous then cartomancer methinks

[desert niche]

"pivot" bruh i just beat the first boss 😭

[pale wolf]

i mean

yea

🦓

[desert niche]

i mean i wanna see how far i can take this run

it isnt gold stake afterall

question is do i want to go for high card / pairs, face cards, a different planet or enhanced cards?

pairs / high cars seem more fun

[glass creek]

Bal atro

[calm epoch]

ikr

[buoyant bison]

straight flush is fun

[swift tundra]

I always, always go pairs with burnt, unless I've already started leveling two pair or something that includes pair via planets (like 4oak), THEN it's high card as insurance/value for hands I play as discards. But if the field is wide open then it's pairs all the way.

[void topaz]

well shit i got planted

[pale wolf]

with a chip joker I think its valid to go high card burnt bc of potential trading card and since it's low stakes, baron

Pairs are still better though

[nova mantle]

what a start

[void topaz]

money money money

[nova mantle]

GAWDAMN 😭

[calm epoch]

SHEESH

[nova mantle]

oh its trib...

[calm epoch]

e

[swift tundra]

A chip joker could make it a stronger initial play ya, or getting value off cards in hand, high card could make more sense for burnt

[hybrid tendon]

I, uh, win?

[swift tundra]

perchance

[serene forge]

you cant just say perchance

[floral mural]

cloud nine op i agree

[swift tundra]

mayhaps I can

[floral mural]

jokes aside i like cloud nine as its a golden joker you can scale at worst

[hybrid tendon]

maybe not ...

[calm epoch]

rip

[serene forge]

I hate Bootstraps

[exotic orchid]

Started my gold sticker run. 🙏

[calm epoch]

wow thats

[exotic orchid]

Pretty good haul

[calm epoch]

a very beatiful start

[exotic orchid]

Ye i am really happy. Got 5-6 jokers in first run.

[swift tundra]

I do like the look of this setup though, just hold out for bull, burnt, or castle and you're off to the races

rocket, to the moon

I love a money-scaling board

[wintry ice]

bootstraps is good at +18$ per round atleast

wtf

[pine drum]

Thats a win so early on, isnt it?

[wintry ice]

yup

[shell dagger]

sketchy earlygame, had to take a preemptive ecto

[wintry ice]

literally wtf is this seed

this is probably more than worth the eternal rental

is it better than +3 mult though

[shell dagger]

i skip

[wintry ice]

i guess that makes sense

[shell dagger]

im back up to a 6 streak

hopefully my next run finds any xmult joker

[unreal island]

Gg

[wintry ice]

ight so red seal lucky or purple

[white zodiac]

should I unlock bloodstone

[shell dagger]

no

[white zodiac]

oh

ight

[shell dagger]

you can freely unlock bludstone though

[white zodiac]

but at what cost

[wintry ice]

i went with purple

[white zodiac]

c++ is halfway done

I love purpl

[shell dagger]

skip 4 da red card

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[serene forge]

no

[hybrid tendon]

usa reference

[void topaz]

me when cloud nine

[wintry ice]

do i put it on the 4 or a face

[hybrid tendon]

I do have cloud 9 yes

[void topaz]

wwhat?

why is 4 an option

[wintry ice]

deja vu

[hybrid tendon]

I'd put it on the 4

[wintry ice]

lucky card triggers are good

why would you put a sticker on your face

is she stupid

[void topaz]

food

price

[serene forge]

yes

[wintry ice]

girl so self centered calling herself a sna

[calm epoch]

💀

[void topaz]

ah damn they got em

got shot right in the face while saying he sentence

[pale wolf]

not a face

[void topaz]

just dont run into the plant

[pale wolf]

parking+red seals is so underwhelming

[void topaz]

have we considered this

[pale wolf]

same interaction as mime btw

[wintry ice]

i guess there's the fact that it's a +50% instead of a 2x

i forgor the game was like that

[white zodiac]

I love checkered deck

[wintry ice]

thank you wheel

[void topaz]

and it didnt land on perishable

[shell dagger]

poly hallucination is probably more akin to a real hallucination

[wintry ice]

the

[void topaz]

free money

[wintry ice]

why do i keep doing that

[nova mantle]

what is a higher priority sticker, stone joker or bloodstone?

[wintry ice]

i had a hanged man on fool aswell

[void topaz]

4 dollar go in 16 dollar come out

[nova mantle]

as in which one is harder to get

[white zodiac]

stone

[nova mantle]

aight

[void topaz]

dawg

the bloodstone hate is fair but its not worse than stone joker

[white zodiac]

well...

[void topaz]

no

dont say words

[white zodiac]

stone does what it says 👅

[nova mantle]

im asking as in which one is harder to gold sticker, not which one is better

[void topaz]

these are quite similar things

but stone joker only shows up when stone cards

[nova mantle]

it appeared in the shop and i can afford to buy either one

[void topaz]

so still stone joker

[wintry ice]

stone joker is guarranteed to work

bloodstone isn't

[void topaz]

yeah but like itll work

[wintry ice]

and even if it triggers, it doesn't help most of the consistent strategies for gold stake

[void topaz]

im in your walls

[white zodiac]

stone is also far less of a detriment for hand type resources

[wintry ice]

yea

using 5 card hands also makes your effective hand size for value generating cards lower

[cosmic sun]

yea

[void topaz]

yea

ts is madness

[calm epoch]

i got chicot round 4 shop 🔥

[shell dagger]

a rogue build, never seen anyone win with this “chips + mult + xmult” setup

[nova mantle]

stone joker is harder to gold sticker since it doesnt appear from the start right?

[shell dagger]

Yes

[wintry ice]

7 jacks

ig i could replace banana for this

[white zodiac]

yeah, you can just grab a random ante 8 bloodstone given adequate econ

[nova mantle]

guess this is why i havent got glass joker lol

[shell dagger]

funnily enough stone joker was ridiculously easy to sticker on plasma

[white zodiac]

not surprised

[heady narwhal]

i'd replace michel especially since you have strength

[shell dagger]

unlike bl**dstone

[nova mantle]

the order's in the last shop but that can atleast fit in a straight build

[wintry ice]

hrt my beloved

[fervent wolf]

Stone Joker is the goat

[desert niche]

f in the chat for naturally negative astronomer

[calm epoch]

f

[nova mantle]

2 more stickers!! and i FINALLY got all the legendaries 🥳

[exotic basin]

Just got 4 new gold stickers, yellow deck certificate start was actually really crazy

[calm epoch]

WWW

[exotic basin]

Hell yeah brother

[pale wolf]

ok. time to play checkered.

[nova mantle]

im now 2/3 of the way there

[calm epoch]

thats what im doing rn

[exotic basin]

I think I am about 90ish in'

I have all legendaries done thank god

[tranquil steppe]

Congrats!!

[exotic basin]

Invis showed up in the last shop

Banner sadly took the hit

But def easier to gold stake banner

[hybrid tendon]

black stake erratic done, now onto blue

[exotic basin]

Blue stake...

[desert niche]

GUP

[serene forge]

stone

[white zodiac]

stone

[exotic basin]

Stone 100%

[white zodiac]

of course

[hybrid tendon]

proof ?

[nova mantle]

already got it ;p

[serene forge]

I hate Soul Knight

[white zodiac]

same

[distant vault]

En pissant

[serene forge]

brick

[white zodiac]

don't even have the game it's mostly just thousand pinging my ass

[wintry ice]

weiner

[white zodiac]

i saw that

[pale wolf]

how do you play checkered.

[serene forge]

saw what

[white zodiac]

idk

this was my roster

[proper turtle]

is dna done for now? this is what the deck looks like

[wintry ice]

yea

[latent egret]

do you have rebate + merry andy ?

[proper turtle]

no

[latent egret]

why do you need 26 kings for then

if you had the same deck but with 10 less kings you'd be much closer to idol fixing

[barren wigeon]

wow, planet merchant!

[fervent wolf]

No what

[distant vault]

I can't escape square

Wtfff

[fervent wolf]

Obviously the standard back

[barren wigeon]

ohhh yeah you're right

[pale wolf]

what do I do when nothing is presenting itself

[barren wigeon]

start squimbolating....

[proper turtle]

how do you deck fix for idol, haven't done a idol run till date

[barren wigeon]

hack is RIGHT THERE

[latent egret]

you need to have only 1 rank 1 suit

[barren wigeon]

do you know what idol does

[latent egret]

so like kings of spades here

[wintry ice]

flush deck
looks inside
pairs

[pale wolf]

vic help

[barren wigeon]

balatro
looks inside
pairs

[wintry ice]

yea?

[pale wolf]

the flush deck isnt giving me anything

hack isn't going to do anything

[wintry ice]

take saturn for survival

[pale wolf]

😭

[barren wigeon]

maybe its giving you signs but you are picking up on them

[pale wolf]

what's an average level two straight again

[barren wigeon]

NOPE NOPE

NOT FALLING FOR IT

[hybrid tendon]

huh ?

a what ?

[pale wolf]

saturn

[desert niche]

it is done

[wintry ice]

flush deck
looks inside
saturn

[hybrid tendon]

60 7 ?

[proper turtle]

yea but what he said seemed weird to me, because I still had a decent no of other cards of other suits left, more kings shouldn't have mattered or there is smth I'm missing

[desert niche]

i have the ultimate combination build now

[sick sable]

assturn

[pale wolf]

what fhe fuck

[hybrid tendon]

idk

[wintry ice]

enough to 1 shot ante 1 boss

[hybrid tendon]

45 7 ?

[calm epoch]

89

[barren wigeon]

67????

[pale wolf]

wpah

[barren wigeon]

67

[wintry ice]

YOU FELL FOR IT

[hybrid tendon]

yeah it is 60 7

why you saying what the fuck, I was right

[barren wigeon]

idol is mainly good with flush five builds, so its good to have a lot of one card

[barren wigeon]

oldest trick in the book

[white zodiac]

hey at least im not drinking brian

[swift tundra]

Every hand you draw for tarot packs (hanged man), trading card, or anything else will more likely have kings than the cards you need to get rid of for idol

[proper turtle]

smth like this right

[pale wolf]

I thought you were making a brain rot joke

[hybrid tendon]

@lunar zealot this run is good

[hybrid tendon]

it really is 60 x 7

[wintry ice]

this run is

[calm epoch]

+4 handsize

[pale wolf]

wrong channel x.x

[wintry ice]

carto gave me temperance

[jagged mica]

do i do it chat?

[wintry ice]

used hermit for 18$

[calm epoch]

same

[wintry ice]

effectively 20 for interest

[wintry ice]

how many faces do you have left

and what level is your main hand

[jagged mica]

basically all, got canio last ante and hung men disappeared ofc

[barren wigeon]

how many of those do you have

[pale wolf]

I died because I tried to do a straight 🦓

[wintry ice]

idt pareidolia is necessary then

[sick sable]

I've been thinking to create a sort of a bouncing weapon ball engine but it's all balatro jokers

[jagged mica]

i meant more like doing it for the meme

[wintry ice]

you could replace blue joker if your mercuries or plutos are fine

[barren wigeon]

why would you try to straight on the flush deck

[wintry ice]

i told her to buy saturn

oops

[barren wigeon]

did you want her to lose

do you hate her

[wintry ice]

thought it would be necessary to survive ante 2 round 1

[sick sable]

Two jokers would bounce around, get chips and mult and the one who has the most chips after some time wins

[wintry ice]

hatred is my love language

[barren wigeon]

shame to you and your ancestors

[white zodiac]

you can survive round 4 with nothing

on checkered

[pale wolf]

😡

[pale wolf]

yeah I don't know why I went for the straight

[barren wigeon]

haha no hologram for you

[white zodiac]

the constellation effect

[wintry ice]

sell bus trust

do i replace carto

[proper turtle]

21 lucky kings out of 31 kings of spades

capping at 1.2 mil score, rerolled a lot for cat

[distant vault]

Love fortune teller

[barren wigeon]

you probably have enough kings but too much everything else

I mean, unless you want rebate in the future

[proper turtle]

yes, am hanging them whenever I get it

[barren wigeon]

if you want rebate in the future then you probably want more kings

if not youre good rn

[white zodiac]

for late game yeah

[pale wolf]

i skiped

[barren wigeon]

skiped

[white zodiac]

don't have to worry about consumable timing

[jagged mica]

i chickened out of the eternal pareidolia but this is a sign i must do it for the meme

[woeful dome]

gold stake no mid tier ranking. Opinions?

[white zodiac]

[karmic jetty]

I just gold stickered superposition and seance on the same run holy shit

[unreal iron]

seemed fine until i looked down

it just gets worse and worse

my god

[woeful dome]

😭

[wintry ice]

play the game more

[unreal iron]

TTM F???????

that is VILE

[pale wolf]

bloodstone pivot

[pale wolf]

bait

[wintry ice]

why are especially cartomancer, shortcut, obelisk and hallucination in the same tier as showman or idol

[barren wigeon]

trib too high, aj too high, bloodstone too high, stencil too high, baron too high, flash card too low, hallucination too low, shortcut too low, obelisk too low, cartomancer too low, troobadoob too low, popcorn too low, rocket too low, cloud 9 too low, baron too high, photo too high, matador too high, invisible too high, rebate too low, chicot too low, castle too high, cola too high, tribe too high, order too high

i could probably complain more but this seems like a fine amount of complaining

[wintry ice]

why is anything in the same tier as showman and idol when they're pretty much never seeing use in gold stake

[barren wigeon]

also to the moon and erosion too low

[woeful dome]

you see cola, you take it

[unreal iron]

literally no tho

[barren wigeon]

not always

[woeful dome]

like unless you're saving for interest

[wintry ice]

and it usually ends up not mattering

[barren wigeon]

if you have an open joker slot and enough money you take it sometimes

and you usually dont use it

also theres no reason for vagabond to be in D

like no feasible reason

[wintry ice]

finding a good enough tag to skip for is hard even with a lot of double tags

[white zodiac]

the day someone makes a tier list better than zoahl is the day i start paying attention

[barren wigeon]

I cant even imagine WHY someone would put vagabond in D

after I do my schoolwork ill redo my tier list

[woeful dome]

Imo, it requires you to have too little money

[barren wigeon]

a lot of my thoughts have changed

[barren wigeon]

too little money during the ante

[wintry ice]

the tier also has many consistent +mult and xmult option

[white zodiac]

i think im good

[vale wharf]

What was your lineup 😭

[wintry ice]

vagabond creates gold cards

[pale wolf]

god idk what im doing but im winning

[wintry ice]

which create more money

[barren wigeon]

temperance, devil, hermit, and almost any money generating jokers make you not poor

[woeful dome]

Yeah I agree some xmult on D, I did put too low tbh

[barren wigeon]

no excuses

[cloud sinew]

4 tarots a round is worth losing interest for, and you dont even lose interest. you can still make money in-round or on the last hand that allows you to get max vagabond value but also gain interest

[wintry ice]

which more than makes up for the lost interest

[pale wolf]

you end up with like $40+ like half the time or more with vagabond at the end of the round

[barren wigeon]

trio glass bull bean dusk fib steel and scholar all too low and faceless and vampire and runner and sixth sense

[wintry ice]

there is never an excuse to undervalue value generation

[karmic jetty]

Hologram and stone card early

[tame sluice]

why is vagabond F tier

[barren wigeon]

its D

[woeful dome]

Could you explain how (geniune question, I haven't put much work into vagabond)

[cloud sinew]

even if youre up to max interest, vagabond is still often worth it

[barren wigeon]

which isnt better at all

[karmic jetty]

And a spare trousers I built up to like 40 mult

[woeful dome]

it is not F

[tame sluice]

It should be closer to A imo

[white zodiac]

exhibit a

[pale wolf]

gold card revenue, interest, and holding temperance til.the end of the round/hermit after cashout

[cloud sinew]

vagabond vampire my beloved

[barren wigeon]

gold cards, temperance, hermit, and money generating jokers like gold joker, cloud 9, rocket, satellite, and sometimes rebate or faceless

[pale wolf]

and lucky cards i guess but thats not as dopamine

[wintry ice]

#🕹・game-discussion message

[tame sluice]

my mistake I assumed F had 3 lines lol didn't see

Anyhow vagabond is not this niche

[barren wigeon]

but anyways after I do this remediation balatro tier list pt 2

[fervent wolf]

You got @serene forge's fav Joker in Foil!

[serene forge]

NO

[pale wolf]

wow!

i didnt know fork was such a big fan

[wintry ice]

what do you think of this

[cloud sinew]

DIDNT COPY HALLUCINATION!?

[white zodiac]

it's borderline too powerful

[woeful dome]

I guess you're right. I didn't think about the possibilities

[serene forge]

NO

[pale wolf]

@serene forge i have bloodstone!

[pale wolf]

moved it back

[fervent wolf]

Fork LOVES Bloodstone

[cloud sinew]

okay good

[tame sluice]

Man I've deadass won games off vagabond

infinite justice death comp 💔

[serene forge]

no i love @hybrid tendon

[barren wigeon]

smiley face and abstract too low, shortcut too low, ticket WAY too low, but thats all the main complaints ive got

[silent lark]

anyone want to help me get better at balatro? im kinda new

[barren wigeon]

better than most other tier lists

[white zodiac]

it looks decent, some small changes I'd make in the same tiers. would take a bit longer for out of tier changes

[wintry ice]

actually

[fervent wolf]

Go back to playing your flushes with bloodstone and hiker, and the occasional idol trigger

[wintry ice]

this tierlist is mildly outdated

[tame sluice]

Flash is also degraded for some reason?

Flash card

[wintry ice]

the jokers in-tier are ordered by joker type

[barren wigeon]

flash card is fine

its an above average joker

[white zodiac]

like cart and vaga in the same tier is a problem

[visual arch]

ok have i been sleeping on 8 ball? with hanging chad i'm swimming in tarots

[west hemlock]

Just saw a guy say he won gold stake with seance and bloodstone

That’s horrifying

[barren wigeon]

heart strushes

[kindred blade]

WAIT MY GOAT THE ACE JOKER IS IN D???

[barren wigeon]

i can see the line

[barren wigeon]

dont even know the name AND youre an eagles fan

double negative

[fervent wolf]

WAIT A MINUTE

[wintry ice]

it has a fairly specific condition and only last until midgame

[barren wigeon]

i feel like scholar is good on abandoned deck

[white zodiac]

hey there

[west hemlock]

Who are you

[barren wigeon]

but otherwise I dont see myself using it

[wintry ice]

here's the new version

[white zodiac]

woah

give me a bit

[west hemlock]

Misprint is a C bro

[barren wigeon]

maybe its just me because I dont use it that much

[fervent wolf]

The Dagger who will PERMANENTLY destroy you

[kindred blade]

1. I am severely dumb

2. E-L-G-S-E-S ELGSES!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOO

[barren wigeon]

but I feel like glass joker is too high

[wintry ice]

i guess i could move the sinful jokers up too

[west hemlock]

Honestly a holographic misprint has potential for a low B tbh

[fervent wolf]

Haha, I'm ranked higher than you

[wintry ice]

eh it's kinda like a more consistent lucky cat

[west hemlock]

That don’t mean you’re fun to use

[wintry ice]

holograph anything is worth taking

[barren wigeon]

dagger is more fun to use than misprint

misprint sucks to use because its always +1

[humble gulch]

I think dagger is fun

[west hemlock]

I disagree you just have terrible luck

[hybrid tendon]

rare moment where blueprint is worse

[west hemlock]

I get like at least 15+ 90% of misprint rolls

[kindred blade]

Every time I get pareidolia I get the boss blind that debuffs every face card

[barren wigeon]

I still dont feel like it is

[west hemlock]

Then you’re crazy tbh

[humble gulch]

Yeah, but you don't scale

[barren wigeon]

blueprint copies bbc

[wintry ice]

if you can't really engage with a joker

[barren wigeon]

more triggers overall

[wintry ice]

how fun can it be

the only deciding factor for scoring there is random chance

[serene forge]

if *blackboard is dropped you lose the x3 from that though

[wintry ice]

and most of the rolls are just good enough to get you past the first 3 antes

[west hemlock]

I can also engage with dog poo but that doesn’t change change the fact it’s dog poo

[hybrid tendon]

calculated it, copy bbc give a x22mult by selling blackboard, if I don't get it I get a x45mult

[wintry ice]

which is what most of the jokers in that tier is for

[barren wigeon]

ok what if you copy campfire

[white zodiac]

lower score overall

[wintry ice]

this assumes dagger is dog poo

[hybrid tendon]

and selling bbc would defintely be worse

[west hemlock]

It kinda is in terms of scaling jokers it’s a pain to use

[wintry ice]

dagger is, infact not dog poo but more interesting than all other +mult jokers

[hybrid tendon]

I don't have enough econ to reliably get it over 3 each ante I think

[barren wigeon]

stampeded

[barren wigeon]

ah

[white zodiac]

and is technically amber food

[barren wigeon]

well, fair enough

[west hemlock]

I don’t wanna constantly feed the dagger it feels like a chore to me I’m sorry

[wintry ice]

you could just put it on the right if you don't want to accidentally delete stuff

[pale wolf]

goated

[torn drift]

tf are these reaction

[wintry ice]

and it's even less of an issue on black stake and above

[slate lance]

My deck tierlist after ive done c+

[wintry ice]

because of eternals

[white zodiac]

dagguh doesn't force you to scale every time

[serene forge]

me when i have to take the ambitious endeavor of taking 1 second to slide dagger once a round:

[kindred blade]

10 super reactions 😭

[hybrid tendon]

and if it's at 3 it gives x30mult

[wintry ice]

what is your explanation for green deck being that high

[west hemlock]

Whenever someone says a take they don’t like they react with horse? Why idk cause they’re sheep (or maybe they’re horses)

[white zodiac]

well technically black stake can be a daggy hindrance

[tame sluice]

plasma degradation💔

[serene forge]

no

[serene forge]

nah that's right

I hate Plasma Deck

[woeful dome]

I'm bad at plasma deck

[barren wigeon]

there is no way painted deck is worse than plasma

[west hemlock]

Econ upkeep is constant with dagger

[wintry ice]

i don't think i've ever taken that many eternals

[barren wigeon]

oh yeah plasma deck fucking sucks

like sucks crazy

[slate lance]

READ MY DAMN NAME

[barren wigeon]

like its horrible

[wintry ice]

all scaling jokers cost money

[slate lance]

FUCK PAINTED DECKK

[barren wigeon]

ok but

[heavy solstice]

i'm surprised that black deck was in D tier

[barren wigeon]

why

[heavy solstice]

Too high

[barren wigeon]

blue deck?

[slate lance]

BECAUSE

[west hemlock]

Of course but dagger is obviously gonna cost you more

[slate lance]

BEACSUE

[wintry ice]

either in the form of hands or in the form of other material

[slate lance]

I SAID SO

[west hemlock]

You don’t win with just dagger

[serene forge]

citation needed

[white zodiac]

I was thinking in a need of desperate mult scaling, you get hit with unlucky nothing eternals

[heavy solstice]

I meant black

[shell dagger]

why do you say obviously

[wintry ice]

the cost to mult ratio is still 1:1

[heavy solstice]

text prediction sucks

[barren wigeon]

you dont win with just misprint....?

[shell dagger]

dagger is $1 for 1 mult same as bus

[wintry ice]

do you win with just green joker or red card?

[barren wigeon]

not seeing your point here

[west hemlock]

Misprint I find enjoyable

[white zodiac]

rounded both ways with gs :)

[wintry ice]

no joker is going to win by itself

[west hemlock]

I don’t like the constant joker buying I like gambling

[barren wigeon]

is it not $1 for 2 mult?

[white zodiac]

@shell dagger

[slate lance]

Whats weong w it

[wintry ice]

not even madness because you still need planets for it

[shell dagger]

rentals aren’t the main source of scaling but yes peak efficiency is this

[heavy solstice]

If jokerless is possible can a joker win by itself

[white zodiac]

jk

[lost vault]

misprint doesnt carry you to victory

[wintry ice]

so why use that as an argument

[serene forge]

the catastrophic effects of short form social media on today's youth:

[west hemlock]

With a holographic it might

[woeful dome]

xD

[desert niche]

man, you dont realize how bad of a downside -1 money every round is until you play black deck

[lost vault]

no, it will not

[barren wigeon]

it'll give like 30ish mult max

[lost vault]

you still need other jokers

[tame sluice]

Yorick diff incoming

[barren wigeon]

that isnt game winning

[serene forge]

less money less scoring potential less scaling

[wintry ice]

how much do you think an average of +25 mult does

[serene forge]

yea it really sucks

[shell dagger]

that’s a better screenshot

[heavy solstice]

Black deck is so miserable

[west hemlock]

This sounds like smth a very unlucky person would say

[quasi crow]

do I just win😭

[desert niche]

i like black deck

[wintry ice]

dagger gets to +40 without that much work

[pale wolf]

The game keeps hurling hermits at me at supersonic speed
and I haven't reset the bus yet

[barren wigeon]

You can get grimbo to + 30 in like 3 antes

[heavy solstice]

I want to do it gold stake but i couldn't even get past green

[slate lance]

Its not only that its also less hands to win with (so therefore less discards too as u can sometimes use hands as discards) and also less scaling potential for jokers that scale with hands like spare trousers or grimbo

[white zodiac]

8-12 per ante

[barren wigeon]

uhh yes

[serene forge]

why would i bother trying my luck when i can use things that are far more consistent and better?

[barren wigeon]

yes you do

[lost vault]

if misprint was guaranteed to give 23 mult it wouldnt be able to win runs on its own

[heavy solstice]

I either needed to be lucky or insanely strategic

[serene forge]

yeah

[desert niche]

lol i did gold stake

[pale wolf]

22,* even

[west hemlock]

Because it’s fun

[serene forge]

get one (1) glass card and you win

[wintry ice]

how much is a ceiling of +21 mult doing in ante 6

[barren wigeon]

23

[serene forge]

losing isn't fun

[heavy solstice]

I just finished gold stake on blue, barely

[serene forge]

unless it's rimworld

[barren wigeon]

but yeah youre still right

[lost vault]

losing to something out of your control is not “fun”

[quasi crow]

Ik I got it 2m without brainstorm

[west hemlock]

Not if you just win

[desert niche]

woah

[west hemlock]

It’s a card game I’m allowed to gamble for fun if that’s how I wanna play lmao

[wintry ice]

given that fun is entirely subjective, you can count it out for discussions of joker viability

[pale wolf]

misprint is 0-23 inclusive meaning an average of 11.5 mult

[heavy solstice]

okay i get it

[lost vault]

my goodness what an idea, why didnt i think of that

[desert niche]

its not something out of your control

its just very, very hard

[lost vault]

misprint is chance based

[wintry ice]

misprint's mult is very much out of your control

[lost vault]

you cant time your hand tobmake misprint score better

[desert niche]

if someone can get a 36 winstreak with gold stake included then you loising is in your control

[heavy solstice]

When you want it to hit 19 multi and you get hit with 3

[desert niche]

oh were talking about misprint?

[wintry ice]

yea

[desert niche]

just dont use misprint loll

[lost vault]

yeah i wasnt talking about JUST winning

[pine drum]

Still, Misprint is a good card for early game

[west hemlock]

In fairness I haven’t played this game in a week since I struggled to beat purple stake (I can’t imagine why)

[lost vault]

i meant chancing your wins pointlessly isnt fun

[white zodiac]

sir this is a consistency debate

[jagged mica]

ok this was a fun run, you can get canio and an eternal pareidolia and there's no plant until ante 8, you can get a red seal foil 2 and you'll get wee eventually and if you make them lucky you can just do whatever

EZMM8L68

[lost vault]

its decemt

[fervent wolf]

Maybe bc you use Misprint lol

[serene forge]

misprint is good early yeah

[wintry ice]

misprint is good for the first 2 antes

[serene forge]

because you don't need that much scoring anyways

[white zodiac]

and with spammable hands on average

[west hemlock]

I don’t care I still find YOU annoying

[pine drum]

I always buy it if im before reaching 3 after that i dont even consider it

still one of my fav cards

[wintry ice]

falls off later because it can't keep up with the scoring requirements and gets outpaced by planets and stuff by then

[west hemlock]

I’d rather use trousers or red card tbh

[lost vault]

homophobe

[shell dagger]

id rather use the 2 best mult scalers in the game

[wintry ice]

trousers and red cards are the best scaling mult jokers in the game

[tranquil cargo]

misprint will keep you alive early on, but if you take an eternal misprint it means later you're gonna have to find a +mult joker that actually works

[pine drum]

Hey everyone, calm down

[tranquil cargo]

sometimes it's correct to do so anyway

[terse vale]

[wintry ice]

is "runner sucks because wee exists" a logical statement

[fervent wolf]

"Jarvis, hex the eternal seance and destroy bot misprint copies"

[terse vale]

of course not

[heavy solstice]

No

[terse vale]

did someone actually say something like that

[heavy solstice]

Wee is a rare joker that scales really fast

[west hemlock]

💔

[wintry ice]

,

[lost vault]

meow

[fervent wolf]

Hallo

[serene forge]

nya

[heavy solstice]

Runner scales decent for a hand that's usually hard to play

[lost vault]

mreow

[fervent wolf]

[heavy solstice]

I cannot play straights constantly because of my luck with the cards

[lost vault]

no

[terse vale]

that doesn’t diminish a jokers value on its own since you can’t really pick and choose

[white zodiac]

the red seal list grows

[fervent wolf]

[wintry ice]

you can't choose what units you take in a roguelike

[tranquil cargo]

you're not supposed to rely on luck to play straights

you're supposed to deck fix

[wintry ice]

which is why just comparing them isn't going to be productive

you take what you get

[west hemlock]

Idk man I see a lot more trousers and red card than dagger just sayin

[heavy solstice]

Hanged man shows up in ante 8 moment

[serene forge]

anecdotal

[wintry ice]

then take those

[lost vault]

well yeah dag is an uncommon

[ripe gull]

the humble yorick

[west hemlock]

Maybe it’s because I always see it in ante 5 so yea kinda

I just like complaining