🕹・game-discussion

[silent quiver]

Man im hungry

[buoyant fog]

me too man an omelette sounds good rn

maybe I shall make one once I beat blue stake....

[narrow scroll]

a swash is bound to come

[buoyant fog]

wtf is this bro LMAO

[buoyant fog]

TRUUUUE thank you for the good karma

[silent quiver]

This sure is a build

[buoyant fog]

Temperance pops off tho

[floral mural]

this seems fairly good?

im running stuntman bus so spamming high cards isnt too bad of a plan i think

[hardy fable]

instant win right here

[silent quiver]

Whats ur buss at rn

[tame sluice]

hello is any sweat online able to help me beat orange stake once? red deck i would appreciate the help

[floral mural]

16 because early stuntman kinda kills high scaling

ill be fine tho

[hardy fable]

I'm not the problem bus is trust

[floral mural]

ill cash out for the high card levels i think

[silent quiver]

Yea i think u can skip here ur getting more value than the value u get from the buss

Plus u probably cant play all ur hands without beating the blind considering stuntman

[magic tree]

he's done it! (thanks @pale wolf )

[hardy fable]

yeah cause I'm so strong

[silent quiver]

Yes stuntman i love you

[tame sluice]

hello wanna do something productive and perhaps help me beat orange stake..? Haha

[hardy fable]

thanks for reminding, I will now do my autobiography

[tame sluice]

funny trust

[tame sluice]

ok brotein

[brisk mango]

I wake up and now I balatro

[pale wolf]

sad
my b

[pale wolf]

no prob

[silent quiver]

I would hemp u out but im abt to go to work srry bru

[tame sluice]

Please do not hump me

💔

[silent quiver]

🫡🫡

[tame sluice]

Just joking its fine go work unc

[red thistle]

Waow.

[silent quiver]

So many nat enhancements

[floral mural]

wtf i lost a joker slot

[silent quiver]

Ur going play

[floral mural]

i had an invisible joker attempt and didnt sell everything and it copied the splash and now im at 5 slots with a negative

[twin lantern]

couldnt get a luchador in time

[latent egret]

its cause the negative is debuffed i think

[silent quiver]

When debuffed it removes the effect of the joker including enhancements

[buoyant fog]

SWASH AQUIRED

[silent quiver]

The plus ine slot from negative is a card effect so it gets cancelled by debuff

Sorry slugger sell it and move on

[pale wolf]

wutt

[pale wolf]

Wait what actually happened

[floral mural]

i tried selling it but it put me at 4/4

[pale wolf]

did you saves scum the invisible and then this happened or

and I assume you are not on steammodded

[floral mural]

nope just let it happen and sold the duplicate invis joker

[floral mural]

steamodded on mobile moment

yeah no idk what happened

ill just try and win with 4 slots

[stiff wraith]

[pale wolf]

what happens when you reload

[buoyant fog]

Should I go for the dagger pivot?

[tame sluice]

goodluck

[latent egret]

bring a suite changer, should be ez win

[pale wolf]

That's not how this works

[tame sluice]

Hes not in shop..

[stiff wraith]

i forgot those exist

[tame sluice]

He is nvm

[stiff wraith]

i lost

[pale wolf]

ive never seen this I gotta save it for later
so you sold invis and it copied an already debuffed negative splash?

[latent egret]

this is why you dont abuse dna

[tame sluice]

Bread 👍

[stiff wraith]

learned the hard way

[pale wolf]

and then you sold the non-negative splash?

[stiff wraith]

I was trying to reroll for that one boss disable joker but oh well

[silent quiver]

I coulda sworn that was how it works

I feel this has happened to me before but i could be mistaken?

[stiff wraith]

this started as an ancient joker build but I got baron and I had blueprint and DNA on me so I just figured I'd go baron build

[floral mural]

yep

i can give the seed if you want

campfire was at 4x

[shell dagger]

who needs xmult

[floral mural]

campfire coming to save me last second was fun i guess

[shell dagger]

my last 2 dagger sacrifices were blueprint and egg

[buoyant fog]

a 3rd egg has entered the party

I am egg pilled

[shell dagger]

Omelette cha… oh

[red thistle]

"Your cards are debuffed until 1 joker is sold"
Who decided that?

[floral mural]

so just for shits and giggles i opened a spectral skip with all the double tags and then exited

so uhh i cant die in the run because i softlocked it

something about invisible copying a debuffed negative joker is probably the cause tho

[ruby maple]

Update when 🥀

[buoyant fog]

negative DL for the win DUUUUUUDE

[floral mural]

maybe having full slots matters too

[ruby maple]

Insane joker set

[floral mural]

https://localthunk.com/blog/im-slow

delayed

[red thistle]

2 natty negatives.

[buoyant fog]

Easiest blue stake win of all time

[ruby maple]

Oh no 😔 thats sucks either way balatro is still amazing

This was a very long time ago

[floral mural]

anyways on my mobile c+ journey all i have left is gold stake plasma

pain

(im skipping straight to gold stake since this is an unlock all file and i cant be bothered to do every stake)

i did unlock every joker and deck legit on pc tho

[pliant jewel]

just keep rerolling seeds until you get rare tag into wee smh

[floral mural]

i refuse that strategy im sorry

[buoyant fog]

Do I take and potentially throw?

[tame sluice]

Tough decision

[floral mural]

how much are you overscoring by right now

[latent egret]

this run aint seeing ante 11

[floral mural]

because dropping an egg for a legendary could be funny

[buoyant fog]

Like 100k over usually

[latent egret]

so you might as well

[buoyant fog]

ye of little faith

[brave goblet]

players gotta learn somehow

[buoyant fog]

YORICK LMAOOOO

yeah thats awesome bro

with my 1 discard

[exotic orchid]

I mean the run is already over might as well see whats in there.

[floral mural]

1 discard yorick

[ruby maple]

Whats the strat for plasma

[buoyant fog]

Voucher will save the run trust

[violet bear]

Holy triple egg swash

That’s a funky run

[latent egret]

play chips until you can get more mult than chips

[exotic orchid]

Play chips until you get a good xmult joker. And then slowly convert to mult hands only.

[latent egret]

planet levels are more important than most deck i think

[floral mural]

chips into xmult pivot for consistency. for forcing a win chips only is viable i guess

[solid osprey]

do i sell chico for dna?

[brave goblet]

if you got good stuff to copy, sure

[latent egret]

nah

[ruby maple]

Oh ok thx

[latent egret]

with 4 hands and 4 discards you can always find your hands

[buoyant fog]

GUYS YORICK IS HOLLOW THE RUN IS SAVED /j

[latent egret]

he is empty inside ?

[brave goblet]

put it behind the driver's license for the holo

[jagged torrent]

Rick yo

[buoyant fog]

U know what I meant LMAO

[jagged torrent]

Your so smart

[brave goblet]

🧠

every bit of mult helps for ante 11

[buoyant fog]

true

must play optimally

Guys

THERES A CHANCE

[brave goblet]

goodbye egg

[buoyant fog]

yezzir

[jagged torrent]

Temp value tho 😔

[latent egret]

one egg is more than 50 alr

[jagged torrent]

It would be cool if temp was uncapped

[vale wharf]

Balatro pop quiz
Give me an example of a hand that's better than another whilst having fewer cards

[latent egret]

pair than flush

because you can almost always play a pair

but you can bottom deck a flush

[buoyant fog]

it was a good run o7

[latent egret]

also you can hold more cards for gold and blue seals

[brave goblet]

(almost)

[jagged torrent]

Pair >literally any other hand

[jagged torrent]

Truth nuke

[buoyant fog]

You forgot the 2 in front

of 2 pair

[latent egret]

b-b-but jupiter is +2 mult !!!

[jagged torrent]

2 pair is meh

[latent egret]

less spammable

[jagged torrent]

Harder to draw

[buoyant fog]

not if you're me

[jagged torrent]

Less blue seal val

[vale wharf]

Nuh uh, you forgot high card

[buoyant fog]

I love 2 pair

[jagged torrent]

Doesn't work in most builds, for me

[pale wolf]

yeah I'm very interested

[pale ridge]

Top 5 hands: 1. Pair 2. 2 pair, 3. 3oak 4. 4oak 5. Flush

[pale wolf]

pair is better than high card

[buoyant fog]

okay I can at least kinda vibe with this list

[vale wharf]

Yes, but it has more cards than high card

[buoyant fog]

at least 2 pair is 2nd place

[pale wolf]

straight should prob be where 4oak is

[pale wolf]

so?

[pale ridge]

Straight is ass

[pale wolf]

1/15

[brave goblet]

4oak should be where 3oak is

[pale wolf]

i dont think 4oak is that reliable

its a pivot out of pairs for winmore hand

[brave goblet]

You play straights but passively turn your deck all the same rank

[buoyant fog]

bro straight is so good

[brave goblet]

sorry pairs*

4oak is a natural consequence from pairing up

[buoyant fog]

pairs are boring

[brave goblet]

but it wins

[vale wharf]

My original question was which hand has fewer cards and is better in comparison

[buoyant fog]

I've just won

Guys I might beat gold stake yellow deck tonight

[brave goblet]

W

[buoyant fog]

NEVERMIND HOLY FUCK ITS ALREADY 6AM

[mental bloom]

gimme a deck and a stake to play :P

[pale wolf]

gold stake painted

[trail pier]

bro

[tame sluice]

red deck orange stake

[buoyant fog]

WHAT

[pale wolf]

go

[buoyant fog]

YOU READ MY MIND JUST NOW

How did you do that

[mental bloom]

nooo i played painted this morning enough 😭

[pale ridge]

Black stake black deck

[mental bloom]

plus I didn't beat gold stake there

[pale wolf]

magic

[pale wolf]

so you have a project

also you asked to pick a stake when theyre not even all available wtf

[mental bloom]

anything but painted deck

[tame sluice]

Lowk can someone help me beat orange stake on red deck so I can move on to the other decks🙏

[mental bloom]

yea mightve typed too fast

[pale wolf]

black deck white stake

[mental bloom]

damn alr

[pale wolf]

wut

[tame sluice]

my name is magic

[pale wolf]

is it the arabic characters

probaly

[tame sluice]

Nah

The stars

[pale wolf]

I was about to try testing it and then I realized there's no way for me to see my own typing indicator

[tame sluice]

I can check tor you

Try

[mental bloom]

round 1 shop
gros michel
breaks at round 2

[solid osprey]

who do i sell for the sock? do i sell for the sock?? i dont have directors cut btw

[pale ridge]

Rock

[latent egret]

are you playing only face cards

[pale wolf]

عیدبت ڈگوبتڈع ڈھدءفتعrandom letter spam

[latent egret]

are you playing glass

[solid osprey]

not yet iam trying to fix but its anyoing

[pale wolf]

nah too difficult

[pale wolf]

ooh it does it on the reply

[pale wolf]

if i just ping myself i can test it

[peak plinth]

Am I cooking chat💀

[solid osprey]

yes

[latent egret]

put midas-vamp-midas

[mental bloom]

pretty good start

[pale ridge]

Why do you have a t2 voucher on ante 1

[latent egret]

damn

[peak plinth]

Zodiac

[latent egret]

id take it instead of chad

[mental bloom]

revivemints?

[latent egret]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[pale ridge]

BOT ALERT

[slate lance]

Could also be because of hieroglyph / petroglyph

[pale ridge]

<@&1133519078540185692>

BOT ALERT

[slate lance]

As in not in this case just COULD be

[solid osprey]

ok done

[brisk mango]

Confused
I sold the one Joker to to disable Boss Blind effect abit ago this Ante and didn't work??

[mental bloom]

negative tag hitting four fingers instead of the dice... 💔

[mental bloom]

Owwww x(

[brisk mango]

I'm confused now how that card works

[mental bloom]

You have to sell it when facing the boss

[tame sluice]

hello can someone help me beat orange stake on red deck 🙏 🙏 🙏

[mental bloom]

and it disables it

[brisk mango]

OH

[floral mural]

luchador has to be sold when the boss blind is active

[brisk mango]

oh

Damn

[mental bloom]

when you go over it it says either "inactive" or "active"

[brisk mango]

My stupidity ruined the shit

Fucckkk

[mental bloom]

and when active it's when you're facing the boss

dw :)

[pale wolf]

yeah nobody ever mentions this caveat with luchador when mentioning unclear Joker wordings

[jade arch]

Is this a good combo? Where should I go now with this?

[pale wolf]

Even though it seems like maybe a third of all newcomers sell luteador in the wrong place

[magic tree]

this should be a fun run 🙂

[wintry ice]

photo is good with straights atleast

[pale wolf]

just cut your deck down among the suits equally and Skip when the boss blind is a suit boss accordingly so that AJ doesn't roll the same suit as it

[unreal iron]

wild 2s

2s and 5s specifically

[mental bloom]

🙏🏽

[unreal iron]

the funny fibo:

red seals, glass, whatever else

[pale wolf]

I.e ancient Joker is on hearts, before big blind, if the boss blind is the head then you play the big blind, and if the boss blind is not the head then you skip big blind

[mental bloom]

would baron be worth it

[pale wolf]

no

[floral mural]

probably not

aint no way your deck is fixed enough

[pale wolf]

Midas probably is though

[mental bloom]

understandable

[floral mural]

goodbye showman for midas tho

[mental bloom]

nope

[pale wolf]

goodbye showman for nothing to be honest, actively detrimental

[mental bloom]

well I could find another snb or photo with showman

I still have time

[peak plinth]

That 1st joker looks cool

[wintry ice]

photo wants you to play face cards

baron doesn't

[mental bloom]

yeah four fingers thinks he's on the team 😭

[mental bloom]

right

[mental bloom]

i'm still trying to find copies of jokers I have

could be worth it

[wintry ice]

4 fingers let you benefit from straight scaling more easily atleast

[mental bloom]

but i dont wanna play straights anyway

[wintry ice]

you need more money for that

[mental bloom]

nor flushes

[floral mural]

i wanna do a strush run someday but on gold stake thats basically throwing

[mental bloom]

yea dw I have some purple seals giving me hermits

[wintry ice]

you're pretty much only ever doing it on checkered with shortcut

[floral mural]

not enough

[mental bloom]

it'll do

[floral mural]

showman is honestly never worth it in ante 8 runs tbh

[pale ridge]

Trye

[alpine halo]

i mean it can do some fun stuff

[deft panther]

I have a gold seal on a lucky card and when the lucky card gives me money it just adds it to the gold seal saying $23 and I dunno if I like that or not

[floral mural]

fun doesnt mean consistent

and murdering my packs isnt a fun effect

[mental bloom]

are we gambling with judgment here

[floral mural]

yes goodbye showman

[mental bloom]

ice cream

good i guess

[deft panther]

Which of these jokers are you wanting to copy with showman

[floral mural]

theres still plenty of solid jokers you could pull

no point to gamble on showman

[solid osprey]

you cant make this up

[mental bloom]

damn

who u hoping for

[alpine halo]

what do you even sell here

what do i do here

[mental bloom]

photo or snb

[deft panther]

I'd sell photo

[hybrid tendon]

True!!! I love you fork

[potent tree]

me too

[solid osprey]

chico probably

[alpine halo]

aw man

[solid osprey]

perk ig

[solid osprey]

?

[mental bloom]

we prayin

[alpine halo]

pare is bad here right

[alpine halo]

unfortunate to sell chicot

[solid osprey]

🙏

[deft panther]

I wouldn't take eternal paredoleia personally without anything else playing off of it

[mental bloom]

chicot better here tho

[solid osprey]

nooo wayyyy

[hybrid tendon]

Hell yeah she's awesome

[potent tree]

[alpine halo]

ayyyy

we love perky

[pale ridge]

Why do u hate flush

[alpine halo]

alright

[alpine halo]

why do you hate my goated straights

[solid osprey]

do i sell perk?

like this is insane

[alpine halo]

you dont really need pare

you should have your deck fixed

quite a bit by now

[pale ridge]

Top 5 hardest hands to get, ass jokers too, only thing it has is planet scaling

[mental bloom]

gamble again ?

[solid osprey]

true

[alpine halo]

thats why its so good

planets

[solid osprey]

ill clone death ig

[alpine halo]

di yiu need blue joker here

[mental bloom]

nah

half joker 😭

[pale ridge]

Planets are the least inportant thing in a setup

[mental bloom]

damn

[wintry ice]

yet blue seals are the strongest thing in the game?

[mental bloom]

guess I'll grab hallucination

[clear mulch]

thank you nat negative vagabond 🙏

it should be legendary

[pale ridge]

Purple seal better

[alpine halo]

that is very much not true for straights

[wintry ice]

how so?

[alpine halo]

literally the whole point

is the planet scaling is insane

[pale ridge]

Tarots are better than planets

[wintry ice]

so a random chance for value is better than guarranteed value?

why would that be?

[pale ridge]

If the only thing you have going in balatro is planet scaling than ur not good

[wintry ice]

when has any of us said that?

[pale ridge]

Planets don't help a lot, tarots do

[mental bloom]

W?

[pale ridge]

W

[unreal iron]

both help immensely

[deft panther]

Hell nah I'd use perkeo to fix my deck to only have face cards anyways

[mental bloom]

what do I sell tho

[unreal iron]

jokerless wouldnt be possible without planets to begin with btw

[wintry ice]

do you have an explanation for that?

[tame sluice]

you cannot make this up

[unreal iron]

immolate in the spectral

[pale ridge]

Jokerless isn't thar inportant

[tame sluice]

let’s see

[mental bloom]

ankh in the spectral 🤭

[tame sluice]

aiiirrbaaaalll

[mental bloom]

L

[pale ridge]

L

[unreal iron]

GOATED talisman

L

[wintry ice]

gold seal is good

[pale ridge]

Only thing I agree with str*ight lovers is that talisman is goated

[wintry ice]

conveniently ignoring this

[pale ridge]

The value outweighs the chance

[wintry ice]

does it?

[pale ridge]

It does

[wintry ice]

according to fluking a gold stake run?

[pale ridge]

Not a fluke

[latent egret]

blue seal being the best seal for a reason :

[pale ridge]

If straights didn't have Saturn no one would play them

[wintry ice]

if 4oak didn't have mars no one would play it

if face cards didn't have photo no one would play them

[pale ridge]

Face cards and 4oak have more to them than just a single planet

[wintry ice]

also isn't this an argument for the importance of blue seals?

[wintry ice]

like what?

[magic tree]

nice

[latent egret]

if my aunt had wheels she would we a bike

[wintry ice]

family isn't that much stronger than order

and if you consider order bad

[latent egret]

straights dont need as much deckfixing

[wintry ice]

why do you consider family good?

[pale ridge]

Order isn't bad

Just straights are

[wintry ice]

but you said straights have bad jokers

[tame sluice]

straights are goated

[magic tree]

cause we are family

[pale ridge]

Master of one is beaten by a jack of all trades, master of none

[wintry ice]

as stated here

[wintry ice]

what trades would 4oak have if it didn't have access to it's scaling?

[tame sluice]

why doesn’t royal flush have a planet put some light on it yooo

[wintry ice]

neptune

[pale ridge]

Family, the 3oak x mult one, 2oak x mult, etx

[latent egret]

the main issue with straights is blue stake

but that’s an issue for every hand

that isn’t pair/hc

[tame sluice]

Royal flush doesn’t scale by flush?

[wintry ice]

why not use 3oak and pair with them in that case?

[wintry ice]

flushes use jupiter

[tame sluice]

new info unlocked

[pale ridge]

You get more x mult

[latent egret]

man im dead

[cloud sinew]

balatro

[wintry ice]

more xmult if you get several specific rare jokers

which isn't very realistic

[pale ridge]

Flush has more jokers than straight

[quartz ember]

every hand type has its own planet, and a royal flush is a straight flush

[pale ridge]

Jokers are super important

[obsidian patrol]

I would rather use the order than the tribe

[wintry ice]

and flush's dependency on those jokers makes it usually pretty bad for high stakes

[alpine halo]

right

do we sell half joker or polychrome chaos for supernova

[wintry ice]

because the scaling doesn't justify it's usage

[mental bloom]

is ecto worth it

[cloud sinew]

planet scaling is also pretty important. jupiter has horrible chips scaling (same as mercury :3) and only 1 higher mult than mercury

[alpine halo]

have you used ectos already

[mental bloom]

na

[pale ridge]

And the fact that you can't get jokers that support straights often makes it bad in general

[alpine halo]

yeah sure i would

use ecto

[tame sluice]

completionist ++ squared how’d u do that then

[alpine halo]

@cloud sinew opinion?

[obsidian patrol]

Sell sixth sense and dice first

[mental bloom]

it hit photograph

[cloud sinew]

supernova

[latent egret]

without 4f it depends on your deck, with 4f for sure

[mental bloom]

all good

[alpine halo]

yeah but what do i sell for it

[cloud sinew]

fuck

half joker

[wintry ice]

when the planet scaling is enough justification to use it when available?

[cloud sinew]

im sorry i just woke up

[mental bloom]

L deeckfixing ik

[alpine halo]

okay

[alpine halo]

nah ur good

thanks

[pale ridge]

Then skill issue

[cloud sinew]

a single saturn lets you win all of a1 by oneshots and beat ante 2 with two straights (risky still), jupiters require 2 to one-shot the big blind and more for a2

[wintry ice]

so, no arguments?

[pale ridge]

Flush > straight every day of the eeek

[pale ridge]

1 shots don't matter a lot

[cloud sinew]

they absolutely do

[obsidian patrol]

???

[cloud sinew]

hands = money

[wintry ice]

1 shots let you get more money from earlier rounds

[pale ridge]

It's harder to get straights than flushes

[wintry ice]

it's like the first thing you learn about earlygane

[pale ridge]

1 dollar isn't changing anything

[obsidian patrol]

It quite literally os

[wintry ice]

but they are less likely to 1 shot with planets

[cloud sinew]

its not twice as hard to get a straight than a flush though

[wintry ice]

?

[potent tree]

straight has tied for best scaling of consistently obtainable hands

[slow iris]

have you played black deck gold stake before

[potent tree]

with 4oak

[wintry ice]

building up all the economy you can is the most important thing to do early on

[pale ridge]

No I haven't played black deck yet

[slow iris]

i can tell

[obsidian patrol]

we can tell

[wintry ice]

hasn't fully interacted with the game and yet makes confident takes

the ego

[cloud sinew]

im sure you were all in that position as well

[pale ridge]

Straights are ass, can't convince me otherwise

[obsidian patrol]

No i was born a master

[potent tree]

you know what? next save file i'm gonna try getting gold sticker on black deck first

[wintry ice]

i haven't taken an argument about a hand i hate that far

[alpine halo]

also isnt straights the best hand for jokerless

[cloud sinew]

"can't convince me otherwise" is a red flag to me. if you're so closed minded that you refuse to be convinced, not that you havent been convinced, then i won't argue with you

[shell dagger]

the rest I can accept but not being open to learning is stupid

[alpine halo]

because of the ridiculous planet scaling

[potent tree]

i used flush for my winning run lol

[cloud sinew]

yeah

[sacred grotto]

it looks so silly but it worked

[alpine halo]

damn thats impressive actually dont flushes scale pretty badly?

[pale ridge]

Planets dont matter so much for straights to be good just for them

[potent tree]

yee

but i had too many glass cards to care

[cloud sinew]

why don't they matter?

[obsidian patrol]

i used flush house for my winning jokerless run

[cloud sinew]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[obsidian patrol]

Wow

Looking into this

[potent tree]

braindead bots

[smoky merlin]

NOT ON MY WATCH

[wintry ice]

you constantly say "straights would be ass if not for their planet"

[tall gulch]

wow, a drop

[mental bloom]

egg

[cloud sinew]

🔫

[potent tree]

[wintry ice]

why do you suddenly say otherwise?

[pale ridge]

"Don't matter so much" I legit said they matter, but not that mucg

[mental bloom]

react this guy

[cloud sinew]

then I'll rephrase the question; why don't they matter so much?

[wintry ice]

yet you constantly say that that's their only usecase?

[potent tree]

chat is this ragebait

[calm furnace]

my god red card is so insane. its at 39+ and ive been using most packs because of constellation and fishing for hung men

[wintry ice]

it's intentional ignorance

[cloud sinew]

I don't think it's ragebait, I think it's ignorance and arrogance

[potent tree]

i used to like it then i dropped it for some reason idk why

[pale ridge]

You have jokers to help, card editions and more

[calm furnace]

im yet to find a better more reliable mult card

[lunar zealot]

Ello ello

[alpine halo]

sell chaos for space? or do i sell it for holo abstract?

[calm furnace]

red card, hologram, constellation and campfire are just auto wins

[potent tree]

rtb is not auto win?

[cloud sinew]

poker hand specific jokers appear much less often than your ideal planet

[potent tree]

or even grimbo?

[pale ridge]

Campfire need good econ

[wintry ice]

so they don't just have plants, but jokers to help them aswell?

[obsidian patrol]

All of those need good econ

[calm furnace]

so goes hologram and constellation

[alpine halo]

i adore rtb, abandoned was my first gold stake win lol

[shell dagger]

If the planet is good then you have more flexibility with your joker slots since you don’t need scoring

[calm furnace]

and red card

[shell dagger]

Unlike flushes

[cloud sinew]

i wouldnt sell anything for it unless your chips from levels were ridiculously high then id sell stuntman

[wintry ice]

on my way to use constellation without good economy

[pale ridge]

You don't use just poker hand specific jokers

[calm furnace]

everything needs good econ, game is based about winning with good econ

[potent tree]

abandoned was my last lol. maybe i'll make it one of my first this time

[wintry ice]

well you can use the unspecific jokers with straights

[cloud sinew]

you clearly do because you said "Flush has more jokers than straight" as an argument in favour of flushes being stronger

[wintry ice]

so what's the argument there

[alpine halo]

my high card is level eleven wtih 105 chips

[potent tree]

in new save i mean

[cloud sinew]

i wouldnt drop anything there then

[brisk mango]

kinda wanna get the PC version of Balatro but then i realized like
i would have to start from 0 progress wise

[potent tree]

flush has bloodstone and that's enough to discredit it

[pale ridge]

I use other jokers alongside hand specific jokers

[calm furnace]

you can unlock everything with one click

[cloud sinew]

you just said you don't use just poker hand specific jokers

[brisk mango]

i dont wanna i like progression

[solid osprey]

o7

[calm furnace]

if you already C+ the game

[wintry ice]

you can see how inconsistent their logic for hating a hand they have never played is

[calm furnace]

whats the point of doing it again

[cloud sinew]

fun

[calm furnace]

playing anything below gold is a chore

[brisk mango]

i havent
i can barely get past Ante 5

[pale ridge]

"Just"

[glad sequoia]

Oh cool look, my 3 favorite red jokers

[potent tree]

it's not the destination that matters, it's how you get there

[twin lantern]

you zill get better eventuqlly

[potent tree]

cries in popcorn

[terse vale]

mehh

[wintry ice]

unlocking all of the jokers is part of learning the game

[calm furnace]

the first time

[glad sequoia]

Decent snack

[calm furnace]

whats the point of it the 2nd time

[alpine halo]

alright

[calm furnace]

the only thing i like about a fresh game is that you can force a legendary

[wintry ice]

oh is this the second time

[tame sluice]

pennywise top 10 jokers of balatro

[cloud sinew]

and my argument was never about just using poker hand specific jokers. if you dont have poker hand specific jokers there's not much reason to go for flushes over straights unless you already have planet scaling / deckfixing direction

[potent tree]

also how do you not like chicot up there lol

[solid osprey]

o7

[pale ridge]

Goes the other way

[terse vale]

?

[brisk mango]

is Green deck better or worse then Yellow deck

[cloud sinew]

how does it go the other way? unless you have joker direction, straights > flushes for planet scaling

[cloud sinew]

significantly worse

[shell dagger]

worse

[hybrid tendon]

Erratic deck time soon

[glad sequoia]

Hell yeah, there is actually a mod with him in it. Handsome devils, I've yet to get him though

[twin lantern]

worse*

[potent tree]

green has no interest so worse automatically

and grimbo hates that

[shell dagger]

not necessarily but it is in this case

[pale ridge]

You take straight bc of planet scaling

[brisk mango]

do i just drop my Ante 4 so far run with Green deck ??

[pale ridge]

Yellow >green

[cloud sinew]

yes, that is basically what I said.

[pale ridge]

Play till u die

[potent tree]

nah finish strong

[wintry ice]

which makes it so there isn't an incentive to use flushes without 3 of the jokers it likes

[alpine halo]

oh shit i gotta do violet vessel

[glad sequoia]

Green is the most unique deck in the game after plasma imo. No interest definitely hurts but it does make you play a lot differently.

[shell dagger]

like if green deck gave +10 dollars for leftover hands it wouldn’t automatically be worse just bc of no interest

[calm furnace]

greek is freeing

[potent tree]

violent vessel my beloved

[pale wolf]

beep

[brisk mango]

instantly lost lmao

[pale ridge]

And if you don't scale straights you don't have a reason to use them

[cloud sinew]

🐘

[brisk mango]

i have all color decks up to Black

[potent tree]

true but unlikely you'll be oneshotting most blinds unless you have like photochad or smth

[wintry ice]

and most things are useless if you remove the main reason why they're useful

[shell dagger]

this goes for every hand that isn’t hc

[cloud sinew]

there's more nuance to it but sure

[shell dagger]

weak argument

[pale wolf]

incredible reasoning

[wintry ice]

rebate would be useless if you don't discard

[calm furnace]

but thats how the game works

[pale wolf]

i play flushes when theyre lvl 1 because i dont play straights when theyre lvl 1

[wintry ice]

is this a logical statement?

[pale wolf]

perfect logic

[calm furnace]

you use the hands that you scaled 😭

[cloud sinew]

yeah :3

[potent tree]

yea honestly rebate itself provides better econ than green deck

[glad sequoia]

There you go, just for you

Madness will enjoy the snack

[potent tree]

well you didn't have to 😭

[pale wolf]

rebate sucks
-#1 burglar glazer

[calm furnace]

not red deck 0/10

[glad sequoia]

🥲

[wintry ice]

well, i should rephrase it as "rebate is useless because it does nothing if you don't discard"

[potent tree]

i just like the fact that popcorn can carry through early antes

[calm furnace]

popcorn is based

and yummy

[cloud sinew]

then your statement is not logical

[pale wolf]

popcorn is carbon based

[wintry ice]

you are refusing to interact with what makes it powerful and using that as an argument for why it's not worth using

[silent quiver]

First shop michael is one of the best feelings ever

[glad sequoia]

It's an incredible early joker

[calm furnace]

until it pops instantly

[stiff fjord]

popcorn carries black deck earlygame

[pale ridge]

"straight is good"
person who is carried by planets

[cloud sinew]

don't misgender, she's called michel /lh

[potent tree]

i've been seeing michael expire round 1 a lot recently

[cloud sinew]

"flush is good"
person who is carried by jokers

[glad sequoia]

Also perishable popcorn is the funniest tag for it have

[potent tree]

[cloud sinew]

see how this doesnt mean anything

[wintry ice]

well yeah because jokers aren't the only way to score

[tame sluice]

first shop is goated

[potent tree]

also perishable turtle bean lol

[calm furnace]

banana as only scoring joker is just anxiety if you dont have solid econ

[glad sequoia]

True lol

[calm furnace]

immolate in that pacck

[potent tree]

immolate in spec pack trust

[pale ridge]

Neither are planets

[wintry ice]

you also have to point to where we said we only ever use planets and not jokers

[silent quiver]

It popped instantly s

[royal verge]

What is the best arrangement

[wintry ice]

the world isn't monochrome

[cloud sinew]

so flushes and straights are exactly the same, because I can make the exact same arguments you're making but apply them to flushes. /s

[twin lantern]

take talisman

[wintry ice]

not even /s

[silent quiver]

Ive known Mikey for years

[wintry ice]

that is literally what their logic says

[cloud sinew]

she goes by michel now please be respectful

[calm furnace]

what about straight flushes

[pale ridge]

Flush easier to get so flush better. That's it. Whatever str*ight lover

[cloud sinew]

how are they easier to get?

[calm furnace]

they are easier to discard for and easier to deck fix for

thats it

[wintry ice]

and if that's what their logic says

you can literally use pairs instead

hence why flushes are worthless

[silent quiver]

Ill do my very best

[pale ridge]

Only 4 colors in 1 deck

[cloud sinew]

I'm asking for evidence of this. I don't disagree, I know that they are easier to draw for and fix for, but I want to know if this person can show that

[wintry ice]

their scaling sucks

[cloud sinew]

that doesnt prove that theyre easier to get

[potent tree]

lmfao

[calm furnace]

everything is worthless just play pairs

[pale ridge]

Literally proves it str*ight lover

[potent tree]

pairs and then straights are my favorite hands

[alpine halo]

i found a card sharp in the last shop that saved the run

[cloud sinew]

i don't think you understand what I'm asking at all

[alpine halo]

gg

[potent tree]

4oak slowly getting up there too

[alpine halo]

i love ghost deck

[calm furnace]

3oak my goat

[tame sluice]

hallo can u help me beat orange stake

[cloud sinew]

saying "only 4 colors in 1 deck" does not prove that flushes are easier to draw than straights

[stiff fjord]

flush house my goat

[potent tree]

ah it's you again. i'm just about to leave for class unfortunately

[stiff fjord]

got me my first gold stake win

[calm furnace]

one of a kind my goat

[tame sluice]

Gg

[pale wolf]

this person is a troll
or 8 years old

[glad sequoia]

Red matador to finish rich

[potent tree]

could be both eh

[mystic arch]

New PB💪

[cloud sinew]

for example in 5 card poker a straight is more likely than a flush, there are 4 suits in the deck still so why isnt a flush more likely?

[pale ridge]

There's less combinations of colors for flushes than numbers for straights

[brisk mango]

also is Fortune Teller good

[wintry ice]

this is the level of stubborness you'd see in a bigot

[pale wolf]

i have 8 years OF trolling under my belt

[silent quiver]

Good job love to see it

[pale wolf]

purple joker is sometimes good but is normally bad

[calm furnace]

mathmatically straights are easier to draw than flushes

[shell dagger]

do you know what combinatorics are

[pale ridge]

Nor true

[silent quiver]

Keep playing keep playing keep playing

[wintry ice]

is that not an argument against flushes?

[cloud sinew]

less combinations means less likelyhood of drawing in a base deck of cards...

[pale ridge]

Since when?

[shell dagger]

lol

[pale wolf]

????

[calm furnace]

depends. with cartomancer, vagabond and hullcucination and/or purple seals it can one of the fastest scaling jokers

[potent tree]

since cards were invented

[wintry ice]

there are less ways to draw a flush, according to that

[brisk mango]

well i try using Tarot cards when possible/useful so it scales abit

[mystic arch]

Thanks man♥️

[wintry ice]

which means you don't have an understanding of how probability works

[calm furnace]

have you ever wondered why flushes have a higher score than straights at lvl1?

[wintry ice]

yet you say statements like these

[pale ridge]

Can't stand these str*ight loverz

[tame sluice]

zeba would you be able to help me beat orange stake on red deck

[pale wolf]

yes, The issue is that as a plus mult scaler it is not as useful in the early game as some of the other Jokers in its category, It's rather expensive to scale with small gains

[cloud sinew]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poker_probability

[wintry ice]

so you prove that you don't have nothing but ad hominem?

[potent tree]

well you're pretty outnumbered here. but we're just trying to help you understand

[calm furnace]

in poker straights are more common than flushes, in balatro flushes scale worse because tartot cards make deck fixing for flushes easier

[pale wolf]

the field of mathematics is str*ight lovers??? oh my gawd

[latent egret]

straightphobia in the big 25

[twin lantern]

why do you censor straight

[cloud sinew]

cause he's trying to be edgy

[shell dagger]

i hate m*thematics

[wintry ice]

heterophobia in balatro players is quite the curious thing

[pale wolf]

because i cant take seeing that word with my eyes

what if i accidentally draw one

[calm furnace]

flsh
straght
f*ll house

ughh

[cloud sinew]

fish

[pale wolf]

somebody didnt \

[calm furnace]

joke failed

[pale wolf]

STRAGHT
flsh

[calm furnace]

flsh hs

[pale ridge]

Straight as in the hand

[wintry ice]

fll house

the tr*be

[twin lantern]

no shit

[pale ridge]

Js drew a straight before a flush

[silent quiver]

I too stand with the gays

[calm furnace]

can we stop debating straight vs flush and just agree to hate on full house

[pale ridge]

My points have been disproven.

[tame sluice]

Yo full house is MY goat

[stiff fjord]

pa*r

[cloud sinew]

a sample size of one is not enough to generalise

[twin lantern]

i need a spare trousers im straight flushing down here

[cloud sinew]

you can draw a royal flush before a pair, doesnt mean it's more likely overall

[silent quiver]

Nothing wrong w it

[calm furnace]

worst base hand in the game

[silent quiver]

Use whatever hands u want whatever hands work for ur build

[pale wolf]

does this scare you

[calm furnace]

earth should scale +3

[silent quiver]

Just play the cards man

[cloud sinew]

very little reason to run it over 3oak / two pair past the early game
venus scales at +2 +20, earth scales at +2 +25

[pale ridge]

No?

[calm furnace]

full house is 3oak with extra steps

[pale wolf]

what if i told you straights are called ladders in other languages

[silent quiver]

Im not saying i love full houses i just dint like blanket statements in this game

[cloud sinew]

full houses are generally not worth running over other poker hands like 3oak or two pair in the same builds

[calm furnace]

but full house is objectively the hardest hand to win with in the game

aside from strush

[clear mulch]

i can confirm

[calm furnace]

that dont count

[white zodiac]

mythical reference

[pale wolf]

why play full house when you could play two 3houses

[silent quiver]

I agree with u

[pale ridge]

Pair > 2 pair > 3oak > 4oak > Flush > Straight > Full house

[calm furnace]

the scaling of earth just makes the extra headache of a full house not worth

i want earth to scale +3 next update

[silent quiver]

I agree with you i am not the fkush house supporter

[cloud sinew]

you said there was nothing wrong with it though

[civic stone]

Holy shit

[pale wolf]

i want earth to scale +4 mult +0 chips

[silent quiver]

I just meant we dint need to discuss how much we hate it

[pale wolf]

really shake the game up

[proper bronze]

@calm furnace did you fly to me already or not

[brisk mango]

would i be stupid to keep using Green Deck

[calm furnace]

+25 chips +3 mult is worth building for

[pale wolf]

Not if it's fun

[twin lantern]

its okay to be stupid folks

[calm furnace]

got caught by the interpol on charges of terrorism

[pale wolf]

SHOW ME YOUR HANDS

[cloud sinew]

what if we made earth +2 +35 /genq

[pale wolf]

i dont know

[proper bronze]

damn

[brisk mango]

it is kinda neat trying to use as little hands as possible for more cash

[pale wolf]

🦓

[pale ridge]

Add a voucher that increases the amount of cards you can play at one to 6. 6oak, flush 6, 3 pair would be so cool

[cloud sinew]

wont ever happen

[pale wolf]

I have no instincts about how to change full house because i dont play it

[white zodiac]

does this scare you

[wintry ice]

making full house a hand with a lot of chips could be fun

[cloud sinew]

localthunk's poker hand rules say they need to be 5 card max

[silent quiver]

There r mods to do this with

[calm furnace]

for me just make it scale better. its wild that only scores 5 more chips than venus

[silent quiver]

Its interesting but it has no place in base game imo

[pale wolf]

thats pretty cool

[white zodiac]

my discord is having an epilepsy episode

[twin lantern]

one of you said flush horse yesterday 🐎 🧻 🚽

[wintry ice]

your discord is working as intended*

[glad sequoia]

It's a fun deck

[cloud sinew]

LOCALTHUNK
REMOVE NEBULA'S DOWNSIDE AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

[pale wolf]

nebula not having a downside would
still suck

[proper bronze]

🐴

[pale wolf]

it would still be by far the most boring deck

[brisk mango]

what does Nebula do

[calm furnace]

starts with telescope

[obsidian patrol]

good question

[pale ridge]

LOCALTHUNK
NERF SATURNS SCALIJG AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

[white zodiac]

awesome
if 6 messages load without any context a few minutes later please hesitate to ping me

[cloud sinew]

it would but it would be better

[pale wolf]

I'd rather just be something different

[white zodiac]

give it observatory

[calm furnace]

bring back the stone deck from the beta

[pale wolf]

or this

[twin lantern]

i wish they patch blue stake difficulty

[cloud sinew]

nerfing saturn is not needed in the current meta at all, buffing other 5 card hands is preferable

[pale wolf]

just start with observatory and cut the crap

[cloud sinew]

it will be reworked

[twin lantern]

i hope

[white zodiac]

[proper bronze]

what if localthunk removed campfire's downside

[pale wolf]

I want it to start with Crystal ball

[glad sequoia]

Nebula is fun, I rarely use it though. -1 consumable slot is really annoying. Blue seals just a lot stronger on magic deck. Can't always get that seal though

[cloud sinew]

campfire not resetting would be boring imo

it makes one of the best xmults an always take basically

[pale wolf]

campfire would have to be .05x

[pale ridge]

What if ramen didn't have downsides

[calm furnace]

but it has no downside

[wintry ice]

food jokers need to have a self destruct mechanic

[lunar zealot]

Then it would be boring as fuck

[pale wolf]

no

[calm furnace]

what if jimbo just skips to ante 8 and wins the game?

[wintry ice]

all of the other 2x jokers also have a condition

[proper bronze]

what if jimbo did haven't a downside

[white zodiac]

i figured out how to work around black deck change from my blue stake suggestion from yesterday

[lunar zealot]

campfire's entire identity is being a win condition

[cloud sinew]

mr bones best food joker

[pale wolf]

how

[pale ridge]

What if souls could appear in every pack?

[white zodiac]

-1 discard

[pale wolf]

🦓

[white zodiac]

[wintry ice]

isn't the whole theme of food jokers that they are consumed upon doing an action

[stiff fjord]

what if blue stake had no drawback

[glad sequoia]

Campfire is really cool thematically. Throwing on wood to burn and then when you wake up the next day you have to restart

[wintry ice]

i guess gros is an exception

[pale wolf]

ostensibly yeah, I only said no because diet cola doesn't self-destruct

[white zodiac]

an homage to what once was

[wintry ice]

with it being themed around the plant

[proper bronze]

what if gold stake was a gold steak

[twin lantern]

shout out to probability jokers gotta be one of my favourite genders

i love gambling

[pale wolf]

yk what

[pale wolf]

with how much my voice to text makes me say steak instead of stake i should make steak icons

[red thistle]

Does gros michel feel pain when i take a bite out of it.

[glad sequoia]

Seals should be in the shape of seels too

[pale wolf]

does it scream

[proper bronze]

it isn't alive

[white zodiac]

gumball episode

[pale ridge]

What if cards were localthunks credit catd

[twin lantern]

be careful those killed bin laden

[red thistle]

The bananas from gumball are my least favorite characters ever.

[twin lantern]

joe

[pale ridge]

mam

a

[white zodiac]

lmao

[lunar zealot]

Thunk should make it so if you get campfire to x10 it becomes wildfire and burns all of your other jokers

[red thistle]

It feels like the writers just thought of the most unhinged ideas and condensed them into those three.

[twin lantern]

whoa buddy keep it sfw

[glad sequoia]

YES

[pale ridge]

Make it so you get x2.5 chips from stuntman

[cloud sinew]

xchips wont ever be added

[pale ridge]

+chip is outdated

[red thistle]

You won't believe this dude.

[glad sequoia]

I love jokers that murder.
Canio, madness, dagger

[twin lantern]

they already did xchips

[stiff fjord]

will ÷chips ever be added

[pale ridge]

?

[twin lantern]

plasma dcek

[pale wolf]

yea its a boss

[twin lantern]

deck

[latent egret]

your like is about to change

xmult is xchips

[pale ridge]

when ^mult

[latent egret]

except on plasma

[white zodiac]

we call it mult

[fair flower]

Exactly 1000 🤤

[red thistle]

Boring and too braindead.

[pale ridge]

When square root mult

[glad sequoia]

Negative bones is my safety blanky

[pale ridge]

When titration mult

[red thistle]

You can almost buy a switch 2.

[twin lantern]

when you get a j*b

[pale ridge]

When TREE(3) mult

[pale wolf]

chips × mult × xmult

[fair flower]

Just one more kidney and I'll be good

[fading cobalt]

3 of my twos were drawn from a spectral pack and immolate cut all of them

[pale ridge]

Why does that matter

[twin lantern]

ok?

[fading cobalt]

Because I'm deckfixing to twos

[glad sequoia]

Balatro runs quite a bit better on switch 2 than switch 1

[pale wolf]

Not anymore

[fading cobalt]

I still have 5 lol

[pale ridge]

Exactly why I'm currently harvesting organs in Indonesia

To get switch 2

[glad sequoia]

You should get it

[twin lantern]

straight up socking it, by it lets just say my buskin

[pale ridge]

I keep getting alcoholics with bad kidneys that I can't sell

[twin lantern]

they gonna ban my ass soon

[red thistle]

Suck my buskin.

[glad sequoia]

I finally did c++ legitimately when I got my switch 2 because it had my original save and the original switch was kind of dreadful. But now I have mobile to pay Balatro on the go

[digital cargo]

Maybe this is a sign to either not inmolate when you have a bunch of twos or deck fix a different number

[cloud sinew]

do you have abandoned deck? straights are very good on that deck if you want to try changing up your playstyle / challenge your biases /gen

[calm furnace]

play straights on painted deck

[fading cobalt]

I needed the money I was willing to risk it

[silent quiver]

Negative mr bones is like dios best friend from risk of rain 2

[pale ridge]

Yes I'll play it eventually

[proper bronze]

play straights on checkered deck

[twin lantern]

peak balatro gameplay

[fair flower]

Bull got himself some nice ass shoes (had to sell mr bones 😔 )

[glad sequoia]

I love abandoned deck

[pale ridge]

Already gold staked checkered deck

[silent quiver]

Unironically agree ngl

[twin lantern]

play straights on erotic deck

[red thistle]

Well i got nothing to do, moar blue deck.

[glad sequoia]

So erotic

[fair flower]

erotic deck 🤤

[proper bronze]

play flushes on abandoned deck

[silent quiver]

Ghost deck my fav dick

[twin lantern]

eratic

[pale ridge]

Play checkered on straight deck

eritic

[glad sequoia]

Simply play erotic deck with 10 aces, 11 Kings, 11 Queens, 10 jacks and 10 10's

[white zodiac]

they say abandoned is pretty peak gameplay

[twin lantern]

im having a stroke

, im stroking it

[proper bronze]

i love erratic decks 🤤

[twin lantern]

what are you? gay?

[pale ridge]

I love erotic decks

[twin lantern]

oneyplays reference

[proper bronze]

yeah?

[twin lantern]

ok

[cloud sinew]

🏳️‍⚧️

[fair flower]

Fun run. I prob could've kept it going if I grabbed an ecto earlier

[fair flower]

YOU'RE JIMBO?!?!?!

[twin lantern]

what country is that

[cloud sinew]

transylvánia

[fair flower]

your pfp is so perfect for what you wrote here lmao

[pale wolf]

Banshee (Spectral)
Creates a random Eternal Rare Joker, gain $25

[fair flower]

clever

[proper bronze]

my favorite country

[pale wolf]

hi syn

[white zodiac]

hi syn

[fading cobalt]

I'm starting to hate ghost deck

[twin lantern]

isnt that a us state

[proper bronze]

hi syn

[tender quarry]

Trans Joker

All Played Jacks become Queens
All Played Queens become Kings

[silent quiver]

Florida

Florida flag

[white zodiac]

oh boy what's on the lottery today

[magic tree]

do I sell ancient joker for FT? I have 14 Aces in my deck

[pale wolf]

its just strength

[tender quarry]

hi syn

[glad sequoia]

I wish there was a 10 gallon hat xmult joker for money

[pale wolf]

😭

[white zodiac]

evil wraith

[tender quarry]

On a stick 🙂

[proper bronze]

all played jacks and kings counts as queens is better

[pale wolf]

I've been getting way too much mileage out of this

pun intended

[twin lantern]

something is off

[magic tree]

hit the road Jack!