🕹・game-discussion

[nova mantle]

not buffed but maybe make its description more clear so its use cases are not binded to looking at the damn wiki each time it appears

[calm epoch]

thats anti racist

w

[atomic trout]

Weak start. Then have six jonklers

[twin lantern]

you wont believe this

[clear mulch]

you're racist?

[heady narwhal]

making its description clearer would make it 23 lines long

[clear mulch]

nothing to brag about

[twin lantern]

no

[nova mantle]

used to be a matador hater but seeing it in early antes with a working boss blind is a blessing

[heady narwhal]

i think it should be reworked entirely

[pale wolf]

i think the logic behind matador is that if the boss blind affects ur scoring directly then it will give money
but that needs to be stated more clearly

[atomic trout]

It should change to boss debuffs give you money each card.

[calm epoch]

same ong

[atomic trout]

Like a reverse tooth

[nova mantle]

mmmh, maybe add an indicator like the one luchador has

[pale wolf]

what

[twin lantern]

i used to hate chicot, and i still do

[atomic trout]

Gain $2 per Debuff card played.

[calm epoch]

wow i just got a natural negative
who wants to bet on what the joker is

[nova mantle]

ehhh,i think its fine as it works, just make it clearer

[proper bronze]

unbelievable

[atomic trout]

Or make it common

[floral mural]

the "boss blind active" indicator

[bleak hemlock]

im drowning in women

[twin lantern]

you have to believe

[calm epoch]

absolute blessing?

[proper bronze]

awesome

[nova mantle]

yeah the little square that says boss active

[nova mantle]

this

[proper bronze]

i haven't to believe

[nova mantle]

nuh uh

[twin lantern]

whatever nerd(liberal)

[clear mulch]

wdym? it already is like that???

[heady narwhal]

it'd have to be visible in the shop and before the actual boss blind to be of any use

[bleak hemlock]

imma transition them 👿

[proper bronze]

what

[calm epoch]

nooooo 😭

[clear mulch]

what

[nova mantle]

potentially 32 dollars if every hand procs the boss? thats uncommon worthy in my books

[pale wolf]

currently "Earn $8 if played hand triggers the Boss Blind ability"
could be "Earn $8 if played hand's score is affected by the Boss Blind ability" maybe

[clear mulch]

YES

[twin lantern]

i have no clue what liberal mean

[clear mulch]

protect trans art

[clear mulch]

leftist political party

[proper bronze]

i haven't clue*

[clear mulch]

its correct

[twin lantern]

what kind of music do they play at it

[pale wolf]

I think it would still have to be implicit that things like the water aren't directly affecting your scoring even if you have banner

[nova mantle]

ik thats fake because nobody takes credit card

[clear mulch]

:cctbf:

[twin lantern]

why are politicians having a party?

[calm epoch]

i just got a black hole, w

[pale wolf]

but it would help explain why tooth does not scale Matador and flint does

[heady narwhal]

i still think this is bad design

[floral mural]

thats also confusing tho since by that logic debuffs dont directly affect your score

and debuffs are matadors main trigger

[pale wolf]

Yes it does, if the card wasn't debuffed then you would have gotten the base chips

[nova mantle]

embed fail ;egg_1:

[pale wolf]

The boss blind is directly affecting the cards you score with

[clear mulch]

i dont have nitro and dont have access to the server where its from

[proper bronze]

i haven't nitro*

[clear mulch]

im gonna meow

meow

[pale wolf]

[pale ridge]

....

[pale wolf]

its this server and you dont need nitro

[clear mulch]

whaar

[heady narwhal]

would tooth trigger matador if i had bull? would it trigger matador if i had bootstraps but not if i don't cross a threshold?

[proper bronze]

[nova mantle]

if the boss aint one of the 4 suit debuffing (or any that debuffs cards) ill be damned to know if it procs matador or not

[sand lily]

Of course I come across blueprint during typecast

[proper bronze]

hi

[pale wolf]

those aren't direct, those are indirect
Like I said, it would just implicitly have to exclude things where the boss blind affects a value that another Joker reads

[calm epoch]

well, if its sth that debuffs cards then it works

[heady narwhal]

then it's ambiguous

[pale ridge]

I GOT A SOUL RIGHT AS IM PLAYING MADNESS LOOK AT THIS

[pale wolf]

Not really though, it's at least much closer to the definition than what the card currently says

[proper bronze]

meow

[clear mulch]

eternal legendary

[heady narwhal]

i think it shouldn't have the current effect

[clear mulch]

sell madness and lose next round

[pale ridge]

I ALREADY HAVE 4 ETERNALS

[floral mural]

cant wait for matador to just read when a boss blind is beaten get 20 dollars at end of round and none of this weird ambiguity mayyers

[nova mantle]

use the ones here

or farm discord orbs

[twin lantern]

i had this run a while ago

[proper bronze]

should haven't*

[nova mantle]

ive heard if you use a vpn and watch the promotional for the fnaf 2 movie in different regions you get a shit ton of orbs

[heady narwhal]

what about cards held in hand for stm/fist

[pale wolf]

I mean sure, I think it would be better for Matador to simply trigger whenever you activate a boss blind that is possible to avoid activating
but I don't think that's what Matador actually needs, it's just what I want
The only thing it needs is a slight rewording

[nova mantle]

it would kinda loose its theming

[pale wolf]

hm true..

[floral mural]

the current effect is a nightmare to dechiper tho

like active nightmare

i dont want original matador to stay

[heady narwhal]

i don't think it should do that either!! it should just be completely reworked

[pale wolf]

I like the theming

[heady narwhal]

as neat as current matador is, it's way too complicated to fit within the game's usual design

[pale wolf]

and I want the theming to stay.

baiting boss blinds into giving you money is a cool idea

[distant vault]

Vv is such a shit boss

[heady narwhal]

there are other ways to make the theming work i think

[floral mural]

if we disregard theming this is a wiki joker

no one likes wiki jokers i think

[heady narwhal]

vv is a really fun boss

[distant vault]

I don't like it

[heady narwhal]

it's the only thing that makes a lot of pair runs interesting

means that you're not off the hook as soon as your build is online

[pale wolf]

i hope matador stays completely as is tbh
and the only thing changed is that tooth also activates it

[distant vault]

Its the outlier among the bosses for me, the rest are at least interesting

VV is just a brick wall

[nova mantle]

bait the boss by actively doing what its affecting you and get a prize out of it, like a matador dodging a bull
though your idea could stick to the theming, since the matador DOES kill the bull at the end of the show, like defeating a boss blind

[neat ore]

I just got two 1000 chip wee jokers and a 500 chip bull with a brainstorm on plasma deck

[heady narwhal]

it's not a brick wall if you have money and prepare for it in advance

[twin lantern]

great synergy w

[nova mantle]

no one likes checking the wiki mid game tbf, unless its that type of game

[pale wolf]

tbh if we wanna go by theming, maybe avoiding the boss blind effect should be rewarded
but thats a bit winmore

[distant vault]

Yes let me just get x mult real quick

[distant vault]

Thanks

[heady narwhal]

it's not nearly as interesting but i wouldn't mind something like "earn $7 on final hand of round." it's sort of educational for new players for one thing

[pale wolf]

i often forget matador is like, a dude
I just sort of see it as a vaguely red card

[heady narwhal]

i think most people aren't aware of the value of under-scoring for quite a long time

[twin lantern]

my only problem with matador is its not that consistent

[heady narwhal]

maybe because of white stake scaling

[distant vault]

F U VV

[nova mantle]

the theming is too complicated tbf, i liked the idea of getting 20 bucks at the end of the boss blind, but that js sounds too simple

[heady narwhal]

why were you complaining here when you had enough points

[calm epoch]

another win for me :3

[distant vault]

My dislike for it is not due to skill issue

[twin lantern]

did you win

[calm epoch]

no

[nova mantle]

no amount of chips is gonna stop folks from hating vv

[floral mural]

put this with ride the bus for a challange and theyll also learn how that scaling jokers can do a lot (every screenshot of 15 minute city disregards bus and spams straights which is uhh not the intention i think)

[distant vault]

I dislike the design

[heady narwhal]

i think most people who do fifteen minute city play 4oak trib or something

[floral mural]

shortcut and ride the bus is also not a good way to showcase scaling joker strength because spamming straights with shortcut is far better scaling and much more intuitive to a new player

[serene forge]

I hate Photograph

[calm epoch]

y

[heady narwhal]

I hate Photograph

[calm epoch]

y

[serene forge]

its bad

[serene forge]

its bad

[calm epoch]

ok but why its bad tho

[nova mantle]

fraud joker

[heady narwhal]

it needs another joker to do anything and it requires you to play faces

[distant vault]

My only non pair run

[nova mantle]

needs chad to do something otherwise its underwhelming

[pale wolf]

because they had to think

[heady narwhal]

without the specific synergy it's justl ike "+4 mult if you reset the bus" or maybe at the end of the game "+15 mult if you reset the bus"

[gaunt temple]

•-•

[heady narwhal]

tjey didn't even do that they just skipped all of ante 8

[floral mural]

any joker that requires you to get very specific other jokers to do much is by definition bad

[calm epoch]

damn

[floral mural]

yes my logic is bloodstone is terrible

[pale wolf]

oh true

[floral mural]

onlt oops makes bloodstone usable

[white zodiac]

but he never showed up

[calm epoch]

the only person that doesnt hate bstone in this server is me anyway

[heady narwhal]

also they took a screenshot of the blind select screen and not the run info thing so they probably weren't paying attention

[hasty harness]

idol is good on its own it only needs deck fixing in conclusion idol top 1 joker

[gaunt temple]

the choices: queen of clubs: purple seal, Queen of clubs, Foiled queen of clubs: purple seal

[sonic nexus]

Have you tried using it with Hanging Chad

[floral mural]

oops is fine tho as its a synergy joker that works for many many things

[pale wolf]

no fork loves bloodstone
and kami

[cosmic sun]

card that gets memed so much because of photochad that people cant function without the combo

[heady narwhal]

i'd probably take the foil one here

[calm epoch]

oh

yay :D

[gaunt temple]

Bloodstone more like lamestone

[pale wolf]

see

[nova mantle]

both mime and chad fall into this too

[serene forge]

no i haven't, is that a good synergy? i've never heard of that combo before ever

[white zodiac]

screenshot

[nova mantle]

great jokers that sinergize with a burning pile of trash

[sonic nexus]

Well It’s a synergy I got from a video

[heady narwhal]

it's called "hanging graph" and it's pretty alright

[pale wolf]

lin

link?

[sonic nexus]

https://youtu.be/mJNcINWgALA

[bleak hemlock]

not bad for a really dumb build

[pale wolf]

hangraph is awesome and nobody can tell me no difrent

[pale wolf]

cool i got their ip

[heady narwhal]

it's nice for c++ because you can get most of your scoring from just two slots

[floral mural]

photochad isnt a bad combo and at least a non rental/eternal photo isnt too expensive of a stain on your run

[hasty harness]

hanging graph...?

photochad

[pale wolf]

honestly I don't even want to watch this video I know it's going to make me angry

so I won't

[serene forge]

Hey Guys I Picked Up Hanging Chad And PhotoGraph (I Think This is Called Photo Chad Combo) But Then My Hanging Chad Died To Nothing? Is My Game Bugged Or Something ?

[nova mantle]

that thumbnail looks so ass bruh 😭

[heady narwhal]

15 best balatro joker combinations:

• grimbo + squimbo
• grimbo + runner
• grimbo + castle
• rtb + squimbo
• rtb + runner
• rtb + castle
• redcard + squimbo
  ....

[pale wolf]

balatroze is like, the buzzfeed of balatro content

[hasty harness]

🤔

[floral mural]

oops bloodstone gives me a headache since people talk about it like its not just oops making bloodstone usable

[pale wolf]

or the watchmojo of balatro

[floral mural]

the best joker combinations is when i have flat mult chips and xmult

am i right fellas

[serene forge]

the best combo is obviously baron and sock

[nova mantle]

"x2103" what you talking bout 💔

[hasty harness]

square grimbo and hologram

🤑

[heady narwhal]

i've only had two midas+vamp runs and both of them died

[white zodiac]

found him 💔

[serene forge]

here win

[nova mantle]

grimbo castle 💔

[heady narwhal]

my favorite synergy

[calm epoch]

omg gayron

[nova mantle]

parei rtb

[pale wolf]

wut

[hasty harness]

idol + any joker

[white zodiac]

it gets better

[pale wolf]

oh what the heck

when I replied to that image it was not the baron shop

Discord glitched out hard

[clear mulch]

its already bad tho

[pale wolf]

brainstorming for stm i see

[nova mantle]

should cost 6 instead of 7 imo

[pale wolf]

why
WHY
do you keep doing this on abandoned

[white zodiac]

wdym why

baron and photograph just happened to be my last stickers I don't see why not

[serene forge]

we need the estrogen joker that makes kings count as queens

[shell dagger]

Pants into pairs with obby (completely unnecessary)

[calm epoch]

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[unreal iron]

immaculate deadslot

[floral mural]

baron for sticker is sure something

[pale wolf]

do it on black deck duh

[pale wolf]

trousers+obelisk has gotta be the most busted synergy in the game that isnt scaling or recursive xmult

[pale wolf]

wait

obelisk is scaling xmult

[white zodiac]

nah nah I'll do that on the black deck profile

[pale wolf]

im braindead

[pale wolf]

do it on both

black deck is the best way to finish a c++

[lost vault]

you didnt have to change the stats the name would be right anywya

[shell dagger]

me

[pale wolf]

its been almost 4 months

[fringe warren]

Wow an uncommon is worse than a rare

[pale wolf]

damn

maybe I should do another c++

[hasty harness]

c++ using no jokers

[shell dagger]

do it

on nebula deck

[pale wolf]

im never touching nebula deck again

[floral mural]

well rarity doesnt dictate power of a joker just how niche it is i think

[pale wolf]

unless i get steam balatro

then I'll be forced to play eight runs of it minimum

[shell dagger]

poly skip on ghost deck is actually crazy behaviour

[distant vault]

Im like crazy

[unreal iron]

would a true c++ be getting a win on every deck tho

[pale wolf]

wait ye

[unreal iron]

since c+ is before that

[stable girder]

the greed they talk about in the bible

[hasty harness]

double tag polyskip 💔

[distant vault]

Paid off

[pale wolf]

no it isnt

[distant vault]

🙏

Never punished

[stable girder]

real

[hasty harness]

if u dont get mult ur just dead tho lol

[pale wolf]

c+ only before c++ on the achievement list, it's not necessarily before it temporally

[distant vault]

I can get away with it cause im that good

[stable girder]

easy abstract joker in buffoon pack

[distant vault]

I don't even need square, sell that shit for $$$

[pale wolf]

can someone explain to me why so many noobs highly rate abstract joker

[unreal iron]

its decent +mult right

[hasty harness]

...

[shell dagger]

Synergistic with negative tag

[pale wolf]

Like it's a fine Joker but I feel like whenever I see a bad tier list from a newcomer abstract is like A tier or S tier every time

[unreal iron]

like its not THE defiant best

[stable girder]

its like the most joker joker ever

[floral mural]

its a practically free 15 mult early its honestly a fine early joker

[stable girder]

easiest to play with aswell

[cosmic sun]

lmoa

[floral mural]

id put abstract and summit at b tho so im probably crazy

[pale wolf]

genuinely this might be a big factor

[floral mural]

like on a tier list

[stable girder]

to be fair making tier lists as a newcomer is crazy

[pale wolf]

and I didn't think about it

[unreal iron]

even going into later antes its still good enough

[white zodiac]

they're comparing it to swash or something

idk

it's in my 10 most used on black but it's also black

[nova mantle]

voices of the underwold on the balatro server

[pale wolf]

it just seems so weird to me that abstract specifically gets so much love

[serene forge]

"15 mult? default jimbo gives only 4 this must be really op"

[nova mantle]

how heretic

[pale wolf]

it does feel like a very quintessential Joker

[unreal iron]

i also had an attachment to abstract joker when i started tbf

[hasty harness]

top 5 jokers: idol, baron, credit card, showman, vagabond (not ragebait guys this is true)

[unreal iron]

so hype finding it

[serene forge]

no vagabond sucks dna is better

[nova mantle]

vagabong slander?

[pale wolf]

there should be an "essentials" mod that instead of adding content, just removes like 70% of the jokers

[hasty harness]

dna is only good if u have a diamond 7 to copy

[unreal iron]

yall are sleeping on devious joker

[hasty harness]

(had to throw in one good joker to make it look real!)

that joker is obviously idol

[vital grove]

Compared the hand numbers on the specific jokers, flat +15 for all hands seems good

[floral mural]

early on before you see much else this is a very free 15 mult you dont have to worry about. i also did favor it and summit a lot when i started

[stable girder]

i mean to be fair one planet card and abstract joker with 15 mult carries first 2 antes, even the third if you get an actual joker too (gs)

[pale wolf]

next time I see a list like this I'll have to note whether summit is above or below abstract

[serene forge]

abstract or maybe banan is probably the first thing that comes to mind when you think of basic ass flat mult tempo jonkler

[fading cobalt]

Streamer: is this hand gonna win? I'm not sure if this wins
Also streamer: has calculator mod

[hasty harness]

my mind would go to banana first personally

[unreal iron]

both do have their uses i prooobably prefer mystic for gold stake tho

[pale wolf]

durr streamer acts stupid for viewer engagement

[stable girder]

what's the community's morality view on calculator mod, is it hated or loved or just no one gives a shit

[serene forge]

i like mystic storby jam

[fading cobalt]

I'm pretty sure its loved

[pale wolf]

I don't really care, although it seems to defeat a lot of the point of the game to me

[stable girder]

exactly, same for me

[serene forge]

same

[unreal iron]

yeah just do it in your head

or like

[pale wolf]

I think it's weird that it is allowed in multiplayer, I feel like being able to do math should be one of the skills being measured????

[hasty harness]

bust out the ol paper and pen

[stable girder]

yolo

[unreal iron]

pull out an ACTUAL CALCULATOR

[serene forge]

guessing how much you score is part of the skill of the game

[hasty harness]

😈

[minor portal]

I don't see why you would need a calculator

[brisk mango]

Omfg

[unreal iron]

DO THE THING

[torn drift]

green stake is impossible

[unreal iron]

YES BRO YES

[torn drift]

how do u beat it

[unreal iron]

my fellow white staker

[serene forge]

sell pareidolia smh

[torn drift]

how are are skulling

[hasty harness]

ill actually bust ts out if i cant do it in my head

[white zodiac]

sometimes multiplayer wants a different game experience focus

also wwyd if you're the driver

[fading cobalt]

Is it over

[torn drift]

no i beat red stake

[minor portal]

True! I have been having trouble with red stake. How could anyone get past such a difficult challenge?

[unreal iron]

i usually just take a median average off of my hands and start adding up everything to calculate how many hands i need

[torn drift]

?

[stable girder]

this is why you check boss blind before you even play the small blind

[unreal iron]

if im not struggling tho i dont really care

[pale wolf]

I don't even know what they're focusing on though, like both math and speed are part of the game so why is being able to do math fast not a benefit

[fading cobalt]

If you think green stake is impossible it might be over

[hasty harness]

yeah for sure but when i actually do smthin like a 5 card build instead of usual pairs ill calculate stuff if its close lol

[fading cobalt]

I don't calculate shit I just say fuck it we ball

[hasty harness]

anyway green stake isnt that hard u just need to play more and get more experience

[pale wolf]

I think it would be cool if the calculator mods allowed for multiplayer had artificial delay built into them to add risk

[torn drift]

no the other stakes will be easier

[unreal iron]

i also calculate a lot of ante 1 hands, ESPECIALLY two pair

[fading cobalt]

But it stacks??

[brisk mango]

This plant that I fucking hate

[floral mural]

honestly its not even guessing its mostly just remembering your score ranges and what you rely on

[unreal iron]

not necessarily the 5 cards but anything below that

[stable girder]

what?

[serene forge]

yea

[torn drift]

btw i didnt undestand the logic og green stakes

what does it do

[stable girder]

my brother in nature other stakes CONTAIN green stake

[torn drift]

more fishes??

[unreal iron]

everything scales twice as fast

[hasty harness]

yeah ante 1 is nice to getting out in 1

[pale wolf]

what.

[nova mantle]

or a irl calculator

[stable girder]

LMAO

[minor portal]

did most of your mult come from smiley

[torn drift]

example

[hasty harness]

i guess but id rather not

[unreal iron]

watch me tap that shit on my casio 🔥🔥

[hasty harness]

t-84 🥶

[unreal iron]

ante 8 boss blind is 200k instead of 100k

[stable girder]

the 82ms

[unreal iron]

exactly what i have i think

[minor portal]

I don't calculate my hands. I play them, and if I lose, that's just how it is.

[unreal iron]

for school

[nova mantle]

i do actually have one besides me so i can ocasionally leverage if i win or not

[torn drift]

ok

[minor portal]

society was not built on calculators it was built on gambling

[hasty harness]

tbh i wish there was a harder challenge then gold stake

[unreal iron]

balatro math isnt complex enough for a scientific calculator i just have my phone or another computer tab

[hasty harness]

i can win a really good amount of gold stake runs now

[torn drift]

lets make a balatro sim

[unreal iron]

gold stake except you restrict yourself to a specific hand/joker pool?

[nova mantle]

i run the fx-991
maybe overkill, but it works

[hasty harness]

balatro deck that makes u use derivatives and other concepts to score 😈

[pale wolf]

streak

[unreal iron]

thats one of the fancy ones no?

with the graphs and everything

[hasty harness]

yeah thats what i've been doing recently

got my highest gs streak the other day

7 wins

[unreal iron]

deadass colored screen too

[hasty harness]

in a row

[pale wolf]

so whats ur streak

well cmon now

[hasty harness]

ik its not the best

[white zodiac]

three apps too many

[hasty harness]

but i think its not that bad

[pale wolf]

15 streak on each deck

[pale wolf]

and then a rotating 15 streak

[stable girder]

does anyone else feel like seeded runs are boring af

[shell dagger]

Yes

[hasty harness]

depends

[unreal iron]

yes seeded is always boring

you know what the outcome is

[lavish wasp]

hello fellow jimbos. I did it.

[pale wolf]

they sound boring af
i never played a seeded run besides for testing

[stable girder]

playing them or watching is literally a snooze fest

[hasty harness]

like if you know the contents but not where things are etc

then maybe

[pale wolf]

gg

[hasty harness]

but if u scout the seed etc

then i dont see how that would be fun

[nova mantle]

not graphs but it is a scientific calculator

[stable girder]

gg! grats!

[hasty harness]

gg

[unreal iron]

eggs

loads and loads of eggs

[nova mantle]

the ones that do graphs are more expensive and they dont let us use those ones either

[lavish wasp]

have a very lovely monday afternoon yall ^^

[shell dagger]

my graphing calculator was a big waste of money ngl

[unreal iron]

if only i could have lasagna

maybe mondays could be better

tyyy!!!

[white zodiac]

0 (I died)

[floral mural]

seeded runs are honestly always boring in any game but i wouldnt want them gone in any roguelike

like seeded runs give the community so much ability to analyze stuff i like it

[hasty harness]

i dont run seeded runs but like if u know whats in the seed but not where the stuff is located in

i think it could be fun

i dont see how scouting the seed ahead of time would be fun tho

at least for me

[pale wolf]

stm abandoned didnt work?? how

[white zodiac]

idk

must be a bug

[floral mural]

its mostly to get perfect seeds for specific challanges i like it

[buoyant ridge]

can anyone help me, even with straight flushes i cant beat htis on plasma, i had a +270 chips runner but the score requirements arent high enough to win

[hasty harness]

like 4 dice for example?

[floral mural]

that 474k wee joker was seeded to hell and back but thats interesting

[stable girder]

minecraft seeded is fine honestly if you just want a good base location, if you dont cheat using a seed checker online then it doesnt matter

[hasty harness]

lol i saw that video

they do other jokers as well

[opal nimbus]

i got +1000 on stone joker 🤣

[unreal iron]

stoned tf up

[stable girder]

rock hard deck

[naive cove]

Someone please explain to me how a four of a kind does not contain two pairs?

[opal nimbus]

well it doesnt

define two pairs

[unreal iron]

two pairs means having 2 of a different rank

[hasty harness]

because two pairs is built up of different ranks

[unreal iron]

four of a kind is well, four 2s

right

[hasty harness]

four of a kind is 4 of the same rank

two pair is two pairs of a different rank

[inland helm]

i lowkey think that 4oak should count as containing 2 pair

[lavish wasp]

Hands that are ranked higher in poker supercede

[inland helm]

but thats just my opinion

[pale ridge]

Good news: I might get cryptid on mobile
Bad news: I have herpes

[stable girder]

if the joker says "contains two pair of a card" sure but it means the hand

[unreal island]

I feel like it'd be fun if you had to look for a randomized list of specific jokers that you have to buy at least once during the run

[pale wolf]

2 pair definition begs to differ

[vocal rose]

oh dear

[lavish wasp]

wee queenposting

[floral mural]

the game begs to differ

[stable girder]

right but who reads anyways

[inland helm]

yeah yeah i know

i just saying it would be so awesome

it would be so cool

[shell dagger]

pants don’t need a buff

[white zodiac]

2 pair in the game specified different ranked pairs while leaving other poker hands available for scaling via fh, flouse and what not

[unreal iron]

i want pants to win the game immediately i dont wanna scale ittt

[pale wolf]

can someone tell me why five of a kind doesn't contain full house
maybe it does actually, there arent any "contains full house" jokers in the game so its actually possible

[floral mural]

if youre scaling pants with flush house just play the flush houses for scoring at that point

[inland helm]

true it doesnt specify

[pale ridge]

Teue

[stable girder]

😭 ?

[lavish wasp]

Full Horse.

[stable girder]

thats weird

[hasty harness]

whats 5oak definition ingame

[proper turtle]

man orange stake is hard, I've been stuck on purple for a lot of decks

[cloud sinew]

"Five cards with the same rank which are not all the same suit"

[cloud sinew]

this means that flush five doesn't contain 5 of a kind

[stable girder]

slow down you're probably playing too fast, just actually try to think about your decisions

[pale wolf]

Five cards with the same rank which are not all the same suit.

[inland helm]

does flush five contain flush house?!

[calm epoch]

i first tried it with checkered deck lol

[hasty harness]

works with family etc tho so :p

[wise prawn]

What should I focus here I'm pretty new to the game

[hasty harness]

no

[cloud sinew]

"Four cards with a matching rank. Suits may be different." - 4oak

[inland helm]

but like it would be SO funny

[lavish wasp]

whatever you want, pull Venuses and youll probably auto win with these jokers if you pick up the Abstract.

[pale wolf]

I think technically it does

[proper turtle]

I've only beaten it on ghost deck and also beat gold on ghost too lol

[calm epoch]

o dam

[proper turtle]

I'm not sure

[cloud sinew]

"Five cards with the same rank and same suit." - Flush Five
"Three cards with the same rank, and two cards with the same rank, all from a single suit." - Flush House
it does

[calm epoch]

i can attempt gold stake on checkered rn but i wanna unlock all gold stakes first

[proper turtle]

flush house needs to have 2 different ranks

[clear mulch]

no

[cloud sinew]

it doesnt specify that at all

[pale wolf]

I really dislike the way the hands are described in the run info menu

[inland helm]

it just says 3oak and pair

so like

[lavish wasp]

interesting, I found that purple stake with the scoring scale was my difficulty spike... for Orange Stake its important to be willing to change game plan frequently and allow those perishables to benefit as long as they're around.

[inland helm]

[calm epoch]

well

[proper turtle]

you never know when your lucky run is waiting for you, might as well give it a try

[hasty harness]

we're being way 2 ticky tacky with the wording bro 💔

[calm epoch]

based on the flush house description, three cards that share the same suit counts as a flush house

[cloud sinew]

"three cards with the same rank, and two cards with the same rank"
flush five meets the definition as it contains three cards with the same rank and two cards with the same rank, all from a single suit

[stable girder]

thats true!!i beat my checkered deck gold stake first try just because i wanted to waste some time until an appointment, took me like 25 minutes

[pale wolf]

without a joker in the game that can activate based on "containing" these hands, its a largely irrelevant thought experiement

[proper turtle]

yes, purple is indeed hard but maybe because I haven't played orange enough to get accustomed to perishables

[lavish wasp]

my argument as to 2 pair/flush horse/5oak combinations: the question is wrong

[inland helm]

true. i just think its funny

[pale wolf]

My first gold checkered also took one run

[stable girder]

best beginner deck by far

[cloud sinew]

how is the question wrong?

[twin lantern]

flush horse🐴🐎🚽🧻🪠

[lavish wasp]

cant change the game rules, gotta go with it

[pale wolf]

huh

[cloud sinew]

that doesnt mean the question is wrong

that means the definitions are wrong

[proper turtle]

yep, my ghost deck gold stake was also a 1st try

[lavish wasp]

honestly getting through on gold stake isnt much harder than orange imho since the perishables at least cost only a dollarydoo.

[proper turtle]

gold isn't much trouble after you've learned to play on purple

[stable girder]

yes ghost deck took me like a couple tries, but now im trying black deck gold stake and im getting RAILED

its not even close to being as easy as the other ones

[lavish wasp]

gold stake has a lot of useful tricks: like buying up those rentals, rerolling, and selling them for better jokers at no loss if they arise (or dumping them for no loss)

[proper turtle]

just beat purple on erratic, its such a fun deck when you get a half fixed deck, lol

flush five go brrr type run

[spark kernel]

We are balatro we carry the flame

[lavish wasp]

black deck gold stake is nightmarish. you really have to find economy early to have a reasonably easy run

[clear mulch]

eternal rental card sharp on checkered deck ante 2 😎 🔥

[lavish wasp]

without econ... rip.

[stable girder]

its so hard to get the build going

[cloud sinew]

black deck gold stake my hatred

[hasty harness]

would rentals be worse if they stayed as they are now or the rental fee applied as soon as u bought the rental in the shop but not end of round

[clear mulch]

yes

[stable girder]

ive never lost ante 1 in any deck except black gs

[lavish wasp]

completely worse a lot. with rentals you can at least say, get the first couple hands with Space Joe and dump it for example.

[cloud sinew]

if the rental fee applied as soon as you bought it then it would be worse, that doesnt change anything except make you spend more money when you otherwise wouldnt have to (aside from wraith/Ox shenanigans)

[proper turtle]

I've lost a lot of times when my dumb ass didn't know you weren't supposed to skip that often

[lavish wasp]

the balance benefit on them is that you can dump them for free before the hand ends, and that's a savvy play that rewards you

[proper turtle]

I still skip but now its more calculated

[stable girder]

skips are so fun

[clear mulch]

why does it say you are banned from the olympics in your bio 😢 what did you do

[stable girder]

its so sad that theyre just bad

[proper turtle]

or sometimes its just for fun

[cloud sinew]

trans

[stable girder]

unless its investment tag

[proper turtle]

they are

[lavish wasp]

same. relateable.

[hasty harness]

you also get to keep interest tho after the first shop u buy it in

interest then - money

once u enter the shop

[twin lantern]

i think it would make it hard to build econ

[cloud sinew]

that doesnt change it though. it's still -$3 before interest because you lose $3 when you buy it

[pale wolf]

High card - No other hand type present
pair - 2 cards of the same rank
2 pair - 2 pairs of different ranks
3oak - 3 cards of the same rank
straight - 5 consecutive ranks
flush - 5 cards of the same suit
full house - a pair and a 3oak of different ranks
4oak - 4 cards of the same rank
straight flush - a straight and a flush
5oak - 5 cards of the same rank
flush house - a flush and a full house
flush 5 - 5 cards of the same rank and suit (or a flush and a 5oak)

[hasty harness]

when i imagined it i meant like after u hit cashout then u lose money once enter shop

[clear mulch]

but estrogen worsen your sport performance

[clear mulch]

shouldnt you be praised for being so good that you reached the olympics while being on estrogen

🤩

[lavish wasp]

funny blue candy go brr

[pale wolf]

shortcut increases the buffer for "consecutive" to 1, and four fingers decreases the number 5 to the number 4 on the definitions for flush and straight

[clear mulch]

the boobies generator

[pale wolf]

That's how I think it should be handled

[cloud sinew]

flush 5 being flush + 5oak is better because it's consistent with 4fingers

[pale wolf]

yea I was thinking that too

[lavish wasp]

some words on getting past completionist++: I think anyone can do it but you do have to concede that, after a point, if youre not goated you just have to find the weaker joes and carry them with a strong build reliant on only 2-4 jokers.

[twin lantern]

Breaking bad reference 🏜🧪🥼☣️🔷️🇲🇽

[lavish wasp]

And I Was not Goated

[stable girder]

thats what i did with red card, absolute garbage joker to play with

[cloud sinew]

?

[stable girder]

its a good joker i just dont like it personally

it doesnt have a good personality idk

[lavish wasp]

I also had my difficulties with it, but if you find it reasonably early - PERSONALITY LMAO yes true

[cloud sinew]

<@&1133519078540185692> questionable

[hazy silo]

-w-

[hybrid tendon]

tf ?

[lavish wasp]

but if you find it reasonably early with econ it can take you over the finish line

[twin lantern]

wrong image

[lavish wasp]

how does he get his hair so right...

[stable girder]

you're right but isn't skipping booster packs just not satisfying at all???

[twin lantern]

i meant this

[stable girder]

makes you feel bad

[swift tundra]

I like it because I tend to skip A LOT and +6 mult per round is better than most +mult jokers

[cloud sinew]

it doesnt make me feel bad at all. +3 is a good enough reason to skip most packs

[lavish wasp]

yes. but, also, it lets you rip celestial packs and speculatively look in jimbo packs and just dump it if it's bad.

it is Freeing............

[pale wolf]

seems fine to me

it makes every pack worth it

[night turret]

Another achievement unlocked!

[lavish wasp]

yep you can think of it as a 3 mult rebate on bad packs

[hazy silo]

nice :D ThumbsUp

[pale wolf]

Red card is as much of a utility Joker as it is a scoring Joker IMO

[lavish wasp]

red card is an econ joker (ZESTY take)

[spark kernel]

"Is balatro a bad game"

[stable girder]

but ripping a wheel and seeing it hit gives my neurons some good activity

even though wheels are kinda ass most of the time

[stable girder]

LMAO

[silent quiver]

I see it

[silent quiver]

Forcing u to take other econ jokers to offset its effect

[swift tundra]

Yeah if there was a joker that gave +3 mult for $4/6 spent I would take it every time, basically a better version of flash card

[lavish wasp]

honestly I think it tests your econ skills a lot, knowing when you need to rip for +3 and when you need to hold

[pale wolf]

can the random images cease

[silent quiver]

I see it

[twin lantern]

cease what

[swift tundra]

And I do take red card virtually every time it's available

[cloud sinew]

stop posting random images

[pale wolf]

cease

[buoyant ridge]

what am i doing wrong here, no tarot cards, high card level 9 and its still not enough on plasma

[twin lantern]

ok

[pale wolf]

baron

[heady narwhal]

every scaling joker is a value generator

[pale wolf]

does andy + banner not clear 100k

[silent quiver]

Clover pit in bio i love you

[stable girder]

👆

[lavish wasp]

insufficient chips scaling imo. the +0 chips is harsh here and High Card pl;anets dont help you a lot in that way.

also baron

[cloud sinew]

youre playing baron/mime on gold stake

[silent quiver]

Hyper jackpot in Clover pit is the most dopamine the human brain can produce outside of heroin.

[buoyant ridge]

but banner wasnt even helpful either on ante 5 because it was only +150 chips

[stable girder]

why did you use your discards the banner has so much value on plasma

[cloud sinew]

its plasma

[heady narwhal]

scaling jokers keep your joker slots open for value generators and make it so you don't have to reroll that much !!

[buoyant ridge]

nah it wasnt enough for ante 5

[lavish wasp]

I challenge: next time you play plasma, try picking up multiple chips jokers.

[cloud sinew]

that doesn't work for winning consistently on plasma

[swift tundra]

I got Violet Vessel on plasma this morning after being absolutely 100% sure I was going to beat gold stake, scored 1.8 out of 2.4 mil on the last round and stopped playing lol. I'll try again later.

[twin lantern]

i wouldn't take an eternal space joker

[cloud sinew]

most runs you'll need to pivot to mult

[spark kernel]

Chat will i go insane playing blue stake

[heady narwhal]

take: xmult is winmore

[lavish wasp]

youll find that you have a much easier time early (which also builds econ - Plasma is one of the few decks that can just get single hand wins through ante 4)

[stable girder]

yes but not at ante 5 i feel like

ante 5 is kinda easy with chip jokers

[cosmic sun]

ah yes because space joker is the problem in that lineup

[heady narwhal]

i would

[cloud sinew]

ante 5 is 50k/75/100k on purple+ plasma

[lavish wasp]

out of pocket statement but you're within the lines lmao

[heady narwhal]

spoker is awesome

[twin lantern]

are you like th

[pale wolf]

Like am I missing something

[silent quiver]

Spoker has hit for me 1 time in 800 hours

[pale wolf]

seems very close to winning without even trying to do anything

[swift tundra]

I found when I insult space joker before playing a hand it triggers about 75% of the time

[heady narwhal]

that means you haven't taken it enough

[cloud sinew]

this is a complete lie unless you basically never take space joker

[silent quiver]

Im lying

[lavish wasp]

space joker is basically Green Joker. :)

[swift tundra]

I say "you gonna actually do your job this time, space man? or are you going to continue being a worthless piece of--" and it tends to trigger

[silent quiver]

I just dont like space joker cus it doesnt hit when i want it too but i know its good

[wise prawn]

Should I replace something here for that joker? 🤔

[pale wolf]

i took space joker for 40 hours and it only hit for like 20 seconds out of those 40 hours

[cosmic sun]

if you spam enough pairs like me it always gives value

[buoyant ridge]

so is space joker any useful ?

[pale wolf]

yes

[cloud sinew]

if you are relying on space joker to hit then you're not running space joker right

[stable girder]

i give it affirmation and bed time stories and it hits 50%, i should switch to insults...

[silent quiver]

Yes

Im being dramatic

[buoyant ridge]

its so inconsistent

[lavish wasp]

Constellation wants a lot of economy to provide value - if you can find space for it and have money to spend, take it. otherwise, you cant

[twin lantern]

8 ball and space joker fans can not be real

[pale wolf]

You could, it depends a bit on your deck

[cloud sinew]

playing a lot of one hand is how you run space joker, which is why it's a lobotomy joker.

[silent quiver]

No im not relying on it i just would like the joker i pay for to do something besides sit in my slots

[swift tundra]

I can see how this might be effective, but also effective at putting it to sleep 🤔

[lavish wasp]

clarification: if you take that Constellation, it's 8 bucks to buy, then another 15 bucks minimum to get it to x1.5. do you have 23 bucks for a x1.5?

[heady narwhal]

eternal rental certificate first shop ghost deck gold stake

[torn drift]

baroooon

[heady narwhal]

?

[cloud sinew]

it's foil here and their only chip joker is scholar

[silent quiver]

I mean technically yea but its scaling is permanent and very useful

[cloud sinew]

i wouldnt

[heady narwhal]

i'm thinking i shouldn't take it

[silent quiver]

Not the best joker but it does hve its uses

[heady narwhal]

i'll check the buffoon pack and if there's a golden joker or something i will

[stable girder]

low chance of being useful

[lavish wasp]

it depends how much they've scaled their planets.

[buoyant ridge]

tarot merchant or vampire ?

[silent quiver]

All jokers are useful except seance

[lavish wasp]

planets can always replace chips joes

[swift tundra]

Space joker is like a wheel of fortune that upgrades hand type but you don't have to pay, just keep playing the same hand, so it has a decent amount of value in that regard imo

[heady narwhal]

i don't think that's true
certificate is run winning but rental is run losing

the problem isn't being useless

[lavish wasp]

both!

or neither.

[cloud sinew]

the problem is -econ for the rest of the run

[lavish wasp]

Tarot Merchant fuels Vamp.

[swift tundra]

I like tarot merchant quite a bit

good value

[silent quiver]

I agree its a good joker im just unlucky

[cloud sinew]

every joker has a usecase and i have used every joker optimally at least once, but some jokers do so little that that has only happened a couple times in my 900 hours

[lavish wasp]

likewise, the doubled chance of randomly hitting hermits and temperances is almost worth on its own

[cloud sinew]

idol and showman being "some jokers"

[twin lantern]

couldn't say it better

[heady narwhal]

i have a polychrome abstract and a +8 grimbo. should i ankh here?

i'm thinking yes

[cloud sinew]

ankh abstract i think yes

[heady narwhal]

i was gonna ankh grimbo

[shell dagger]

ankh grimbo is mid

i would ankh abstract

[white zodiac]

I forgot gem wasn't stickered smh

[heady narwhal]

+25 mult and x2.25 mult in 2 joker slots is pretty good i guess

[lavish wasp]

can I just say...... Goated

thats such a mutated lineup of jokers I love it

[silent quiver]

The thing with seance is that in order for it to fit into a build u need ti be able to make straight flushes somewhat reliably which is an extremely rare build. Additionally at that point its just not doing that much for you to generate spectral cards. S u would hypothetically have the deck fixing you needed. It technically doesnt do nothing but even in its best use case i just dont think it does much.

[white zodiac]

x2 joker without exponent potential

[silent quiver]

It has hail mary potential

Like it could theoretically come in clutch

[cloud sinew]

Seance isn't for straight flush builds. the main usecase is keeping suit tarots in your pocket and forcing a straight flush for spectral gen

[silent quiver]

I havent ever tried to use it that way

[swift tundra]

Space joker is like a cat, you have to assume it will never trigger, and act like you're mad at it, and then it will trigger more often. When you pick it up try sighing deeply in disappointment and call it mean names and it will want affection. Otherwise it's like a cat, pushing random hands off the side of the counter to upgrade them.

[twin lantern]

lol

[cloud sinew]

@pale wolf how does Observatory's wording make you feel? "consumable area" upsets me

[lavish wasp]

Also, Lmao

[hybrid tendon]

y'all think I can win this ?

[cloud sinew]

yes

[floral mortar]

does blueprint also copy the card modifier? foil, poly, etc

[cloud sinew]

no, just the joker effect

[silent quiver]

I havent really ever considered using tarots to force stright flushes since i usually only use them to deck fix or force early flush house but that is interesting

[twin lantern]

look inside
photochad

[obsidian patrol]

No

[floral mortar]

kk ty

[unreal iron]

it might be over unfortunately

[lavish wasp]

suit tarots are very easy to just, leave gathering dust in your slots to use later. I think theres an impulse to sell them for interest but sometimes you should hold 'em

[silent quiver]

I feel like its still worse than 6th sense but im not experienced in using it that way so my opinion does not hold much weight

[swift tundra]

Seance is too big brained for me, it intimidates me so I pretend it's useless

[white zodiac]

no consumable slot

[silent quiver]

If i can sell a tarot card to hit interest threshold im probably going to do it but if i ever pick up seance ill think harder bout it now

[tranquil oyster]

sell burglar (perishable? worthless), green joker (discards are good), and acrobat (cerulean will prob make a big final hand impossible). buy riff raff and pray for photochad, only way out.

[white zodiac]

seance is essentially a value generator in the same sense as superpos and runner/pants are for pairs

[cloud sinew]

you should basically always keep them unless selling it puts you into another interest bracket, or you are selling it to open the slot up for Sixth Sense/Hallucination/etc...

[swift tundra]

That is sort of odd wording, I don't think about it now but I believe I did go "huh?" when I first started playing and read it

[silent quiver]

I agree i dont sell tarots if it doesn’t have some instant tangible benefits cus its worth it just to block it from the shop

[robust lance]

alright then

(hermit was in the arcana)

[silent quiver]

Love the nanner

[white zodiac]

tough choice

c9

[lavish wasp]

may your Nasty Mike decay at just the right time

[twin lantern]

guys do you think future update will add new jokers?

[cloud sinew]

i wouldve taken c9 and opened the buffoon pack i think

[white zodiac]

at least 2

[silent quiver]

Yes

[cloud sinew]

yes

[robust lance]

free win? (i can throw this probably)

[cloud sinew]

huge hi swash

[silent quiver]

Its confirmed to have new jokers no?

[silent quiver]

Holy swash value

[lavish wasp]

God swashbuckler here is hilarious

[robust lance]

bana died

[white zodiac]

swos

[robust lance]

:(

[floral mortar]

debating taking bp here but i don't really think i need it

pair build, lvl 20

[twin lantern]

i hope they patch stakes scaling,

[silent quiver]

Cavendish on the upseing

[cloud sinew]

drop splash for bp

[white zodiac]

they already changed it in 1.0

[floral mortar]

true

[obsidian patrol]

You have splash

[lavish wasp]

consider. Splash Bad

[white zodiac]

for stake scaling

[spark kernel]

First attempt of blue stake howd i do

[silent quiver]

My hopes for the update is more variety in long term endless gameplay and other than that i have no other strong opinions

[pale wolf]

they should add 200 to every single blind requirement

[lavish wasp]

bloopy goes on your Burnt Joe, switches to anything else next, instant win

[silent quiver]

Ik the game isnt designed for endless but i like it

[obsidian patrol]

[cloud sinew]

there is one dev and that one dev (localthunk) uses he/him

[pale wolf]

there's a balance team

[lavish wasp]

the new Balatro update will add the Whimsical enhancement. This causes the cards to appear and disappear at random, and

[pale wolf]

they is valid

[silent quiver]

There is a team now no?

[silent quiver]

Yea

[frigid gulch]

https://www.reddit.com/r/balatro/comments/1pa6e4z/like_father_like_son/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button funny thing i found

[hybrid tendon]

yeah wasn't that bad

[robust lance]

you know what sure fine

[pale wolf]

there's more than one brain at work on balatro even if only one person is writing the code

[cloud sinew]

localthunk is the only one who changes stuff, no? i thought the balance team was just for going through ideas and what could work etc

[frigid gulch]

take it

[silent quiver]

Still worth mentioning i think

[white zodiac]

or remove that much to frick with my mental math

[buoyant ridge]

and loosing again

[twin lantern]

i didnt use them for an individual i meant prular

[cloud sinew]

also how do you know there's a balancing team

[buoyant ridge]

this game is unbalanced af

[white zodiac]

meh

it’s mostly stable

[buoyant ridge]

i cant just get along with plasma on gold

[wintry ice]

why did you not just build into arrowhead and wee

[lavish wasp]

plasma gold is not easy.

[silent quiver]

Insane rage bait i love it

[pale wolf]

because doc said he was on it

[twin lantern]

skill issue body, its okay

[wintry ice]

you intentionally play an annoying deck and act like it's the game's fault that you're losing

[twin lantern]

buddy

[white zodiac]

credits page

[wintry ice]

is this ragebait at this point

[buoyant ridge]

i even watched doc and it didnt helped me at all understanding the game, only one vid

[lavish wasp]

chillax mayne.

[pale wolf]

technically that section of the credits only says QA

iirc

[white zodiac]

true

[wintry ice]

which one

[silent quiver]

It is in the argument fir most well balanced rogue like of all time

[pale wolf]

The quality they were inspecting was the balance

[twin lantern]

im convinced that some people are not ragebaiting but are actually stupid

[white zodiac]

hiker would’ve been in a different era

[buoyant ridge]

idk

he has thousands of learning vids

[lavish wasp]

I do think the play here is to push your two chips jokers and that clubs guy is not doing much if you're on Arrowhead, one of the best chips jokers for plasma

I think, just bad luck

[buoyant ridge]

yes, rng nothing else

[silent quiver]

Its the jack black luck based mind set

[buoyant ridge]

i play plasma on gold so long ultil i get something op

[pale wolf]

mickel throws their head into the wall of gold plasma every day it seems

[wintry ice]

if you watched a video with the intent of learning and somehow refused to take any information from it

[pale wolf]

and I'm not sure anything about their gameplay has changed since the start of it

[wintry ice]

i don't think the game is the problem

[lavish wasp]

yall harsh asf on mickel like sometimes folks want to just be playening a game.

[buoyant ridge]

i watched and followed his advise, but foir this game you need a phd in math to understand him playing

[white zodiac]

they prob take the first buffoonish pack on plasma :3

[twin lantern]

ok saul goodman

[white zodiac]

tbf he’s been saying this for like months

[cloud sinew]

its a significant logical leap to go from "Testing/QA" to "balance team". not necessarily an unreasonable one but you are making an assumption

[buoyant ridge]

this game is too complicated for me

[white zodiac]

that was me that assumed it initially mb

[floral mortar]

is there a way to check my last run?

[buoyant ridge]

maybe i should learn math, probability calculations to get better at this game

[white zodiac]

wasn’t there that far back

[wintry ice]

the game is more decision making than math

[pale wolf]

I didn't say that

[wintry ice]

there isn't a reason to build around agate and vampire if you have wee and arrowhead

[buoyant ridge]

for eXample understanding probabilities from a tarot pack

[white zodiac]

i would hope there would be more update testers on the balancing side. i could spend hours on theory crafting some builds

[lavish wasp]

that I definitely agree with. knowing when you need to push and when you can rely on what you have is important.

[pale wolf]

In fact I was the one correcting kanjikun

[cloud sinew]

okay. where/when did doc say he was on the balance team

[wintry ice]

specially when arrow and agate are mutually exclusive with their conditions most of the time

[buoyant ridge]

what should i do here ? im lost

[obsidian patrol]

Buy hermit and go next

[wintry ice]

take hermit and save it for later

[white zodiac]

hold hermit go next

[lavish wasp]

buy Hermit go next.

[cloud sinew]

hermit and open the buffoon

[white zodiac]

on plasma?

[lavish wasp]

plasma can get through like the first 4 rounds free with a decent hand mayne.

[wintry ice]

in the next shop you want to use hermit and buy grabber

[lavish wasp]

you gotta rely on it

[white zodiac]

and with grabber?

[wintry ice]

not sure i'd do that with grabber there

[buoyant ridge]

but what if its a worse pull ? then its even harder to get my economy building

[cloud sinew]

a worse pull than what

[white zodiac]

generally you don’t open buffoon packs on first shop plasma

[buoyant ridge]

for eXample 2 rentals

[lavish wasp]

your economy comes from winning in 1 hand and getting the extra hand money from Grabber

[white zodiac]

especially

[twin lantern]

7-3 = 4
4 x 2 = 8

[white zodiac]

yeah

[cloud sinew]

yeah, and?

[twin lantern]

yeah

[lavish wasp]

lock in gamers we got the spreadsheet out

[cloud sinew]

you showed me nothing new

[twin lantern]

whatever liberals

[white zodiac]

u told them to open buffoon with hermit and grabber…

[buoyant ridge]

should i go for aces here ?

[white zodiac]

and first round too

[cloud sinew]

funny because that's not what moose said /s

[white zodiac]

nah

[brisk mango]

Game is kicking my ass holy shit

[wintry ice]

do you need something for earlygame survival

[lavish wasp]

you aint buyin anything until you can get 20 dollars off that Hermit.

[white zodiac]

go next

[wintry ice]

round 4 is possible without jokers

[cloud sinew]

telling me that buying and then using the hermit there is net +$1 tells me nothing new

[twin lantern]

u either stupid or ragebaiting u can't be both

[lavish wasp]

whatcha got holmes?

[pale wolf]

having a small group of people play a pre-release version of a game, and then changing the final release of the game based on their feedback, makes that group a balance team in some capacity

[white zodiac]

oh i just ignored that lol

[brisk mango]

Idk

[cloud sinew]

you said that there is a balance team though

[buoyant ridge]

take ?

[cloud sinew]

he specifically words this as "had" and specifically talks about how it was used for 1.0

[pale wolf]

Yes, I assume that there are still people that are testing and giving feedback to thunk in other places not so public

[wintry ice]

use hermit first

[pale wolf]

because why would he change his development style

it is more reasonable to assume that the process stays the same

[white zodiac]

hermit, open buffoon first

[twin lantern]

take

[heady narwhal]

i'm up against crimson heart, i have boss reroll & there's a luchador in the shop. my hand levels are shit but i have a lot of sevens for potential 4oak chips, a couple of bonus cards, etc

[wintry ice]

and then take buffoon pack since you can't win without jokers as easily now

[chrome crescent]

wtf

[heady narwhal]

should i swap out bloker for luchador?

[obsidian patrol]

Use hermie and take

[heady narwhal]

should i reroll the boss?

etc

[buoyant ridge]

and what now ?

[cloud sinew]

you dont know that he does have one is my point. you are assuming that he still has one because he had one for the 1.0 update

[wintry ice]

sly is a good way to live for a while

[pale wolf]

https://youtu.be/5SOW2DKZUlk?si=W93LRcdlueQ5ZtkY
also: if theres a number in the game, thunk and i have talked about it

there are multiple brains at work on balatro

[twin lantern]

dont take chaos

[obsidian patrol]

dudes just arguining for the love of the game

[cloud sinew]

?

[buoyant ridge]

should i go for fortune teller ?

[white zodiac]

what’s your top end?

[cloud sinew]

not a dude, also im not

[pale wolf]

I would give a timestamp but it is literally the first couple sentences

[lavish wasp]

the choice here is either, sell nothing and let blackboard be dead, or sell blackboard to replace with something else and dont sell aynthing at the boss.

[white zodiac]

listiger jorker

[heady narwhal]

what do you mean

i can't beat vessel here

if that's what you're asking

[white zodiac]

what’s your score on a good hand

oh

[buoyant ridge]

but then i have 2 rentals

[obsidian patrol]

dudette just arguing for semantics

[chrome crescent]

what happens when i have 6th sense and DNA

[heady narwhal]

i think it might be sell abstract rather than sell bloker?

[cloud sinew]

couldve just said "at the start of the video"

[twin lantern]

just believe in yourself, and nothing is impossible

[chrome crescent]

does the six get duped then the other destroyed?

[shell dagger]

sly

[pale wolf]

imagine if the order mattered

lol

[shell dagger]

fortune teller is hot ass early in plasma

[pale wolf]

it doesnt

[white zodiac]

i don’t think abstract is the sell since it’s contributing to multiple x mult jokers

[pale wolf]

The exact term balance team doesn't seem to be said anywhere but it's enough for me

[white zodiac]

blue, see what judgment is, take lunch

[lavish wasp]

I think I agree

[white zodiac]

is my speculative option

[pale wolf]

perhaps a balance team would have to be a paid employee of localthunk

[white zodiac]

yeah

[lavish wasp]

when the hands are this low you gotta get your +mult somewhere for the xmult to matter.

[robust lance]

knew it was too good to be true

[twin lantern]

maybe they're just volunteer testers

[cloud sinew]

it's not enough for me. drspectred saying that him and localthunk have discussed the game a lot doesn't tell me anything about the current state of any balance team

[white zodiac]

i’d be more confident as the driver and not the google map navigator

[pale wolf]

they were certainly volunteer

[flat warren]

I’m going to lose, right?

[twin lantern]

so long buddy

[slow iris]

yeah

[pale wolf]

It's an interesting conundrum, like if thunk wants the same kind of feedback on future development of his game, is he morally obligated to pay a wage for it this time even if the people did it for free and would again

he is a multi-millionaire now

[fading mango]

i think my balatro is bugged

[flat warren]

I hate myself sometimes

[twin lantern]

i hate you too sometimes

[white zodiac]

obelisk will be at 4.2x on last hand with multiple other x mults in pretty sure it clears

will depend on chips

[pale wolf]

the answer!

[white zodiac]

the ping 🐧

[gaunt temple]

im gonna haunt the server with this

[twin lantern]

it would be a nice gesture i think to pay them

[fading mango]

i like how obelisk is that one card your happy you got so late

[white zodiac]

i’m adding nue to the blue seal list, they seem like a nice fella smella

[cloud sinew]

if i was in localthunk's position i would feel morally obligated to pay them

[pale wolf]

non-existent reward for anyone who can tell me what is different
hard mode

[wise prawn]

Hey thanks for the tips guys

[lavish wasp]

am I a smart fella or a fart smella... TBD...

[empty seal]

best feeling itw

[gaunt temple]

and this

[lavish wasp]

what is this bleu seal list?

[fading mango]

red trim around the neck is missing

[lavish wasp]

when the card is wild

[fading mango]

the chin i mean

[pale wolf]

close enough

[tranquil oyster]

just beat cruelty first try wtf
blackboard is a top 3 joker in the game.

[heady narwhal]

i forgot how loyalty card works with debuffs i think i'm fucked

[empty seal]

bloodstone blanked and i got 26k

thank you bloodstone

[lavish wasp]

thank you bloodstone

[twin lantern]

im loosing my mind

[pale wolf]

It's so strange to me that the outline is only differently colored right under the head

[white zodiac]

oh you didn’t bring lunch

[fading mango]

yay

i got it

[twin lantern]

the red line

[flat warren]

I’m gonna go drink and die in arc raiders now

[heady narwhal]

felt like loyalty card was a better bet

[swift tundra]

different color chin