🕹・game-discussion

[clear mulch]

1x2x2

oh

yeah i

[cloud sinew]

the first Oops 1x's the probability, of course. /t

[clear mulch]

what is /t

[cloud sinew]

teasing

[clear mulch]

im having a hard time thinking

[slate lance]

But both cant activate on same shop

Thats what they said

[fading cobalt]

Is this winnable? 🥹

Baron was afraid of me

[fervent wolf]

Kitchen: uncommon, 8$

When blind is selected, this Joker generates a random food Joker (must have room)

[cloud sinew]

so then it'd be 50/50 to get -$5 or +$15, which makes it net +$5 on average

[slate lance]

Too op

Cause imagine u get michelle play until its extinct

Then just keep farming until u get cavendish

Itd be way too easy to get cavendish

[cloud sinew]

not really

youd need to find this joker, then get gros michel, then have it generate cavendish. that's a pretty niche scenario for it to be "op"

[slate lance]

Get gros michel from the koker itself

Joker

And if u keep one of the food jokers in ur hand

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[slate lance]

Or even two

Itd be forced to generate Cavendish

[fading cobalt]

Wtf double copying mime is better

[fading cobalt]

What happened to balancing retriggers

[slate lance]

I mean theres only like 5 food jokers including michelle cavendish

[pale wolf]

wrong

you really really like bloodstone

[slate lance]

Ok nvm i forgot about bean egg and ice cream

[fading cobalt]

NO THE PSYCHIC

[tiny harbor]

aah boss

[calm epoch]

ok like
ramen is effectively a 2x mult for a while
cavendish is 3x
popcorn is +20
ice cream is +100 chips, diminishing
bean is a really good QoL joker
egg is useful for certain scenarios
diet cola is a free double tag+money
gros michel is +15 mult
seltzer literally replays your hand for the next 10 turns

[cloud sinew]

also if it includes beverages, which it should, then thats even more via seltzer and cola

[fading cobalt]

OF ALL THE BOSSES THAT COULD ABSOLUTELY KILL ME I GET THE PSYCHIC

[calm epoch]

there isnt a single food jokers thats bad

[fading cobalt]

WTF

[calm epoch]

oh i forgot seltzer

[fervent wolf]

It does

[slate lance]

I was including fola in my statement but not seltzer

[distant vault]

I hate square joker

[pale wolf]

i dont count egg tbh

[ripe iris]

ik i take cav here but do i get rid of the 2.1 constellation or the 2.25 holo

[distant vault]

+4

[slate lance]

Is egg not a food

[calm epoch]

[cloud sinew]

eggs are most commonly a food, so i count them as a food

[pale wolf]

i dont think its primarily a food based joker, its a reference to nest egg and the way clowns register their makeup

[slate lance]

Even if its uncooked, you wouldn't call uncookrd chicken not food

[slate lance]

Wha?

Whats a nest egg

[ripe iris]

any help here?

[pale wolf]

nest egg is built up funds for emergency/otherwise

which is exactly what egg does

[calm epoch]

if you dont mind adding a few cards to your deck then const goes bye bye

[fading cobalt]

Would you rather die to pyschic or die to the plant

I hate this game

[serene forge]

[ripe iris]

well i only get one shop before finisher so idk if ill get more from constellation or holo

[slate lance]

Oh ok but still

[latent egret]

holo takes less money but more luck in the types of pack

[cloud sinew]

localthunk has only confirmed the NL and nest egg references, the CIER is just speculation

[slate lance]

Its called egg not nest egg

[serene forge]

no i love @hybrid tendon actually

[calm epoch]

say bye bye to const then

[pale wolf]

Note that all of the food Jokers have backgrounds except egg

[fervent wolf]

It's the food jokers that dissappear (or have the chance to dissappear) without being sold

[ripe iris]

ok then

[fading cobalt]

Sell trib duh

[pale wolf]

You know what I should make a picture about this

[slate lance]

Okay then so cola isnt included

[cloud sinew]

mr bones is a food joker now

[calm epoch]

LMAO

calcium

[fervent wolf]

Is a skeleton

[fading cobalt]

Well dogs do eat bones

[calm epoch]

good for my bonez

[cloud sinew]

it meets your definition

[latent egret]

youll get more const for sure

[fading cobalt]

This game despises me getting endless runs

[cloud sinew]

"that disappear (or have a chance to disappear) without being sold", and then a bit that i added mentally was "independently of any other card"

[slate lance]

They said the food jokers that dissapear not that all food jokers dissapear

[calm epoch]

mr bones isnt dependent on any other card tho

[cloud sinew]

which is why it meets that definition

[fervent wolf]

Mr. Bones isn't a food joker

[cloud sinew]

they were replying to "is egg not a food" so i took it as that being the definition of a food joker

[cloud sinew]

why

[slate lance]

Ok does anyone have tips for golden neelde

I hate this challenge

[calm epoch]

oh right i confused who said what for a sec

[pale wolf]

I would say that cola is the only food Joker that does not consume itself, instead being consumed by the user voluntarily

[slate lance]

Ok fair enough them

Then

[pale wolf]

well I guess ramen too but whatever

[fervent wolf]

Are you out here eating bones 😭

[cloud sinew]

no im vegan

[fading cobalt]

Bones aren't vegan?

[slate lance]

Food is not exclusive to humans

[tender hill]

If you really think about it

[cloud sinew]

are you stupid or are you baiting

[pale wolf]

only if they come from A consenting adult

[pseudo tusk]

Ive gone into a run too deep and cant quit what do I do

[slate lance]

There are animals that do eat bones

[tender hill]

The most broken joker is the flash card

[calm epoch]

proceed.

[tender hill]

HEAR ME OUT

[distant vault]

Flash card my goat

[tender hill]

IF YOU REROLL ENOUGH TIMES

[fervent wolf]

But Ramen dissappears without you selling it or destroying it with Dagger/madness

[fading cobalt]

Just cuz I don't know something doesn't mean I'm stupid

[distant vault]

Flash card over red card any day

[tender hill]

YOU CAN GET A TON OF MULT

[pale wolf]

yeah I mean it still fits the vague set

[fading cobalt]

Who researches if bones count as vegan or not

[cloud sinew]

you're right. also no, bones aren't vegan. they come from an animal ergo it's not vegan

[tender hill]

AND IT HAS NO LIMIT

[fading cobalt]

Oh, well that makes sense

[pale wolf]

You should probably just ask yourself what vegan means

[cloud sinew]

vegans.

[fading cobalt]

I thought vegan was no meat not anything that comes from animals

[cloud sinew]

dont use generative AI as a source

this is gross

[pale wolf]

I don't even think it's up to vegans really, it's just a fact of what the word means

[distant vault]

Red card enjoyers making +6 a shop meanwhile flash card chads making +10

[calm furnace]

i dont like gold seals on lucky cards because it gives me the false hope of a money shot

[distant vault]

[lost vault]

mreow

[cloud sinew]

thats vegetarian. vegan is no animal products

[tranquil cargo]

that is not a search result, that's just gemini (or copilot? some AI)

[fading cobalt]

Ohh

[ripe iris]

it was either this or a reddit post

[cloud sinew]

then show the reddit post

[fervent wolf]

That's what I mean

[slate lance]

Ngl i hate ai but sometimes it saves a tiny bit of time

[fading cobalt]

True

[pale wolf]

they said not anything that comes from animals

[hybrid tendon]

hehehehe

[cloud sinew]

i dont care

[fading cobalt]

Honestly reddit is really reliable when researching stuff now ngl

[serene forge]

[tender hill]

Yeah

[fading cobalt]

Ok not EVERYTHING

[tender hill]

But yeah flash card is one of the most op jokers

[slate lance]

Okay hold.on why is 80% of the balatro fanbase trans and or lesbian

[tender hill]

Yes not everything

[fading cobalt]

But some things you google like reddit comes up and answers it for you

[spark kernel]

So i was about to win my first green stake run and guess who decided to ruin it

[ripe iris]

indie games or smth idk

[tender hill]

Do you have a problem

[slate lance]

No im a trans lesbian too

[tender hill]

Oh ok

[cloud sinew]

it isnt, this discord is a microcosm. this is a very small subset of the balatro community

[pseudo tusk]

My first win NOT on balatro online

[slate lance]

Fair 😭 but this game has the largest majority ive ever seen, you dont see this mant gay ppl on other roguelikes (at least i havent)

[pale wolf]

but we are the most official

[fading cobalt]

Blueprint idea: when copying banana if it goes extinct then blueprint disappears aswell

[tender hill]

This is so ass

[slate lance]

In this discord then

[ripe iris]

well this discord is like the most dedicated people the game

[mental bloom]

What are you doing here...?

[serene forge]

why not

that's the question we should be asking

[spark kernel]

The fucking violet vessel ruined my green stake run

[ripe iris]

i feel like the deeper into indie game communities you go the more lgbtq people there are

[pale wolf]

The only two Canon balatro communities are on Twitter and on Discord

[ripe iris]

like 90% of top celeste players are trans /s

[spark kernel]

I hate violet vessel

[slate lance]

Ew twitter

[pale wolf]

I know it's unfortunate

[serene forge]

do you think tas is trans

[slate lance]

Thats fair

[serene forge]

they are really good at celest

[pale wolf]

ptas isn't

[ripe iris]

tas is non binary

[calm furnace]

wtf the flint did not affect my score

e21 with the flint

[pale wolf]

your base score must have been negligible

[cloud sinew]

the deeper into indie game communties you go the more ND people tend to be, and ND people are more likely to be LGBTQ+

[slate lance]

Do not give me ptsd from that game 😭 i got up to chapter 8 bside and crashed out mentally

[serene forge]

what is ptas

[pale wolf]

practical tas

a guy

[ripe iris]

wait until you get to the goldens

[calm furnace]

wdym

[ripe iris]

im still grinding those out

[slate lance]

Whats ND

[fervent wolf]

What.....nothing....

[slate lance]

?

[fervent wolf]

I'm cooked chat

Rip

[slate lance]

Is that part of the actual achievements?

[quaint stag]

i wonder which one is photograph

[fervent wolf]

Mr. Bones ain't saving me now

[pale wolf]

if quartering your base scoring did nothing to your end result then that means all of your scoring comes from non-planet p much

[ripe iris]

no but im doing them for the completionist in me

and technically it changes the appearance of the save file so you cant really say youve 100% celeste untill you get fwg

[slate lance]

I hate that game too much to care about doing that i just eant the platinum.trophy 😭

[mental bloom]

Oh you're burnt...

[calm furnace]

i have 3 trib double sock

[past path]

the miss by 0.01 goes hard

[slate lance]

Ty for changing ur name to smt actually smart

[pale wolf]

that's a big .01

[fervent wolf]

HELP ME

[calm furnace]

[ripe iris]

in that case its more likely your score was something like 4-9e before and it turned to 1-2e so you thought it looked the same

[mental bloom]

No one will...

[ripe iris]

either that or you have a lot of mult and bonus cards

[past path]

miss by 1e24 🖊️

[slate lance]

I hate yokden beedle so much

[ripe iris]

miss by the amount of atoms on the earth

[past path]

atoms gotta up their game tbh

[ripe iris]

nvm im way off earth is like e50

miss by the amount of atoms in the human body

[mental bloom]

abrocat

X3 at first played hand

[calm furnace]

this endless shit aint fun but im drunk so

but this seed fucks

[slate lance]

Itd be cool if more jokers had tier 2 versions
Like cavendish or voucher tier 2's

[calm furnace]

slowly getting there

[slate lance]

Brainstorm tier 2 copy leftmost and rightmost card

Would be peak

[calm furnace]

still no ecto

[ripe iris]

please do not add another 150 jonkers i have yet to get c++

[past path]

humans are e25x smaller than the earth??

[slate lance]

Noo only like some jokers would get it not all

[cloud sinew]

neurodivergent

[past path]

thats crazy

[ripe iris]

thats what a quick google told me

[pale wolf]

gluttonous → agate
luchador → chicot

[slate lance]

Id wuit the game if i had to get 150 additional jokers too lmao

[cloud sinew]

I would be fine with it so long as it didn't add more jokers like bean/popcorn

[slate lance]

Ohhh right

[slate lance]

Whats wrong w bean :[

[pale wolf]

I enjoy these more difficult options to sticker

[ripe iris]

food joker so hard to get c++

[slate lance]

Bean has helped me so many times

[slate lance]

I got michel and popcorn and cola in the same goldstake

Before even doing c+

[ripe iris]

bro was hungry

[slate lance]

Lmao yah

[cloud sinew]

it isn't helped by perishable and you need to get it within 5 rounds of ante 8 or be forced to skip to sticker it

[eternal anchor]

cuh

[slate lance]

Seltzer is done too helped me beat a leaf boss

[fervent wolf]

Guys...not even Chicot can help me....

[ripe iris]

should i go for c++ or finish all the challenge decks first

[cloud sinew]

challenges

[ripe iris]

or do both at the same time

[slate lance]

Or just reroll a lot until u hopefuly get it

[cloud sinew]

you can't sadly

[pale wolf]

just thought of a boss blind idea

[cloud sinew]

which is where the "get it within 5 rounds.." comes in

[ripe iris]

i mean like grind c++ then take a break with the challenges

[past path]

can someone find a bug that makes egg worth a billion dollars please

[cloud sinew]

already done

unironically

[slate lance]

Yea youve got 5 rounds to reroll a lot

[ripe iris]

would the mr bones glitch work here

[cloud sinew]

finding a specific uncommon requires a ridiculous amount of money, on average.

[mental bloom]

Chicot...? Heh...

[ripe iris]

chat just got awfully quiet

[fervent wolf]

And I'm cooked

[ripe iris]

damn

[calm furnace]

LETS GO GO THE ECTO

[slate lance]

Then just anaglyph and pray for an uncommon tag at the end

[fervent wolf]

Every message here is more reason I'm cooked

[fervent wolf]

Perkeo?

[fervent wolf]

I like this idea

[ripe iris]

not sure how i feel about this

[slate lance]

Ok this might be my needle chance

The invisible is active

[alpine parrot]

Do you guys like the score i got

[slate lance]

I should copy brainstorm.and go.for seeing double

[ripe iris]

its not bad for white stake

[cloud sinew]

even with OS&OS+ with none of the enhancement uncommons in the pool, you'd need to roll ~87 times (on average) within the last 5 rounds to find bean to sticker it without skipping

[ripe iris]

alternatively if you find bean after ante 3 you could just full skip and lose

[slate lance]

Lmao

[calm furnace]

at this point opening planet packs is a wase of money no?

[ripe iris]

never is

[slate lance]

I mean if u have a lot of steel you could prob win

[lost vault]

balatro

[ripe iris]

situation where painted deck might be helpful

[slate lance]

Balala

[slate lance]

Ew no

[calm furnace]

wouldnt that money be better reolling for dusk/bp?

[cloud sinew]

losing 8 or so rounds just to get a single sticker

[final bough]

HOW DO I EARN 2 DOLLARS

[pale wolf]

I was thinking it would be cool if there was a non-final boss blind that allowed you to use the same sort of mechanic as Crimson heart debuffing a consumable Joker on the final hand and stop it from destroying itself

[ripe iris]

i mean if you want but the packs cost nothing compared to the reroll cost and still impact score

[cloud sinew]

also you actually need to get bean and popcorn after ante 4 because the last round kills them before they get the sticker iirc

[mental bloom]

No...

[calm furnace]

i have an open joker slot

[ripe iris]

really? damn didnt know that

[spark kernel]

No matter what i do i always fail at ante 8 in green stake

[pale wolf]

Truth

[ripe iris]

just get an econ joker then if you care about finding bp

[fervent wolf]

HELP ME ANYONE

[cloud sinew]

popcorn and bean are the absolute worst jokers to sticker

[lost vault]

no

[cloud sinew]

because of those stupid restrictions

[spark kernel]

I dont get why i always fail at ante 8 green stake

[ripe iris]

get xmult

[lost vault]

i hate balala it steals from balarto and uses ai generated art

[calm furnace]

yeah i got trading card to clean my deck

[spark kernel]

I did

[calm furnace]

in case i get another ecto

[ripe iris]

then how are you losing to green stake

[fervent wolf]

I'm saved!

[cloud sinew]

by not scoring enough

[spark kernel]

I did a silly thing when i had jokers that relied on money and kept rerolling to increase ji jokers

[ripe iris]

u mean like bull/bootstraps?

[spark kernel]

Yes

[ripe iris]

dont reroll then

[slate lance]

😭

[ripe iris]

rerolling has very low returns

especially if you benefit from holding onto the money

[slate lance]

If u have the money for it its pretty important sometimes

[calm furnace]

anyway this build shouldnt get paste ante 18

[slate lance]

But not with bootstraps or bull

[tardy solar]

Finally I win with the freaking yellow deck

[ripe iris]

i mean yeah with flashcard and jokers like fortune teller, campfire, or constellation

with boostraps/bull please do not reroll

[pale wolf]

I think banana has the potential to be even harder

[slate lance]

Hell ye

[ripe iris]

me watching my cavendish break on the finisher right as im about to sticker it

[pale wolf]

since it on average lasts fewer rounds and you can't even be sure that it will sticker when you take it into the final round

[ripe iris]

statistically this has happened to at least a few people

[calm furnace]

ok what

still not glass

[calm epoch]

i just beat on a knives edge first try 🔥

[calm furnace]

i have like 10 glass red seals

[calm epoch]

it was so stressful tho ngl

[calm furnace]

so whats the play here pray for blueprint?

[pale wolf]

my bean and banana just barely fit in the same screenshot

[calm furnace]

jimbo tagging along

[slate lance]

Throwback for fist?

[calm epoch]

anyway im going to sleep, gn yall

[slate lance]

Goodnight!

[slate lance]

I lost because of club debuff boss

2nd time now ive lost to a stupid boss ability on a potentially winning needle run

[fading cobalt]

Bloodstone fucking sucks

1/2 my ass

[slate lance]

Bloodstone is my goat

[fading cobalt]

Stfu

You can't hate painted deck but say bloodstone is good

Thats weird

[heavy heron]

weird ahhh build

[slate lance]

U got a problem with painted hate?

[fading cobalt]

Yeah I do actually

[fair flower]

When you keep rolling a 1/2 the odds of you getting a next hit are lower and lower.

[fading cobalt]

Yap yap fuck bloodstone and fuck probabilities

It should just be a guarantee after 2 rolls

Or 4 rolls

Or 6 rolls

Like that just fucking makes sense

Fuck math

Fuck everything

[fair flower]

Reasonable crashout

[slate lance]

Just get an oops

[fair flower]

easier said than done lmao

[fading cobalt]

Just get your dad back

[slate lance]

Id say smt about your dad but im a lesbian

[fair flower]

Just run an idol if you hate bloodstone so much :)

[fading cobalt]

I HATE IDOL EVEN MORE

[fair flower]

<3

[slate lance]

I loveeeeee idol

[tardy solar]

Guh

[fair flower]

Samee

[calm furnace]

do i take dusk here?

[tardy solar]

The joker that copies other jokers 😳

[amber forge]

I thought I'd take the speculative oops for fun, the game is messing with me (ante 1 was the heart boss too lol)

[tardy solar]

I GUESS I don't need the dna strand anymore......

[slate lance]

If dna is not doing much then id say yeah

[calm furnace]

its just copying extra glass

but dusk is eternal

so not feeling good about that

[slate lance]

Yeah but it gives everything an extra retrigger tbf

[calm furnace]

yeah will make my score go way harder

[slate lance]

Ehy tf are u even doing high scores on goldstake

[fading cobalt]

DNA is amazing with bluestorm but shit on its own

[calm furnace]

dna is shit outside of hologram and having a card worthy copying

[fading cobalt]

And baron/stm with bluestorm

[distant vault]

Dna sucks

[calm furnace]

baron is a meme

[analog dust]

35 years without a footie
think about what that does tuah man...

[ornate otter]

U cant get the 400 money achivement from rich get richer challenge run?

[calm furnace]

GREAT THINGS COME TO THOSE WHO WAIT

[tardy solar]

36,000,000 😭

[calm furnace]

this is right order right?

all red seals

[tardy solar]

Is the dna considered bad what

It low-key carried me by giving me so many cards of what I needed

[past path]

mmm poly

[tardy solar]

Holy shit

[deft panther]

Do I need Half Joker here still? My pairs are level 18

Also got Rocket early enough for it to be really good this run

[pale wolf]

only you know how much you're scoring compared to the rounds

can you take your scoring getting cut in half

[deft panther]

I'll hang onto it then

[calm furnace]

ugughghgh

[past path]

i can finnaly take out loans and go into debt

[proper flame]

is that eternal negative jimbo 😭

you know damn well invisible is copying him

[calm furnace]

yes

he carried the run

(not really)

[calm furnace]

oh yeah forgot about that

either way its not gonna contibute to my score i need an ecto

but almost ante 19 and still no overstock

[deft panther]

Can jokers that only benefit from being sold like cola or Luchador have eternal? I assume not considering it seems like scaling jokers were made to not have perishable

[pale wolf]

wtf

[pale wolf]

no

[past path]

?

[lost vault]

i like boys

[pale wolf]

why is it expensive

[barren wigeon]

babies first ever E

guess who lost because their idol didn't hit when they had about 500 queens and 2 aces of hearts

[calm furnace]

i guess now i play all glass

[past path]

thats my egg

[tardy solar]

I lost for the dumbest reason 💔

I forgot to move a card in the first position 😔😔😔😔😔😔

[barren wigeon]

happens to the best of us

[past path]

i just got a negative mail in rebate from a negative tag

always gamble

[slate lance]

ABDHRIRVJEGR

[calm furnace]

i got cheap with the glass carsd

and lost

either way

[slate lance]

I BEAT GOLDEB BEEDLE

Ayesss

[calm furnace]

i dont think iw ould have gotten past ante 20

[slate lance]

FUCK YOU NEEDLE

I would've beat it without mr bones but had to.adapt to leaf

Especially since one of my mult jokers was fist

[fading cobalt]

Stm is peak

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[calm furnace]

endless is brainrot

just watch tiktok if you like playing endless

[fading cobalt]

Real

[serene forge]

I hate Swishbonkler

[slate lance]

WHYY :[

[calm furnace]

im only salty because i fumbled my triple trib run

[fading cobalt]

I love seeing slander of things that deserve slander

[serene forge]

its bad

[barren wigeon]

got 2 soul cards in my best run

had about 50 queens

got chicot and perkeo

one of the two i kept

it was not perkeo

[calm furnace]

chat press F

i had over 20 glass red seals btw

[fading cobalt]

L

[past path]

i have too many negatives

[calm furnace]

still i think this is my highest ante on gold stake

i take it

[fading cobalt]

Swash is only bad cuz it needs joker combo to be good

[calm furnace]

FAAAVKK

[pale wolf]

ohh

[past path]

rip

[calm furnace]

I FORGOT TO SAVE THE SEED

a better player would sure have gotten past ante 19

i just alt f4d once i lost

[past path]

i cant use my rebate with this burglar bru

[pale wolf]

i think most people never find out

[serene forge]

meh who cares

[daring perch]

what’s the play

[calm furnace]

fain triple trib yaoi sock chad

[daring perch]

is half worth over square

[past path]

its negative buy buy buy

[fading cobalt]

No

[past path]

termperance value

[calm furnace]

i do ❤️‍🩹

[serene forge]

use both

[daring perch]

true

[fading cobalt]

Just cuz its negative doesn't mean you should buy

[serene forge]

i'd buy that

[fading cobalt]

Well fair enough

[past path]

2 temperance and you get the money back

he has 38 bucks he'll be fine

[daring perch]

oh true square doesn’t descale

[serene forge]

half is good

play it like an acrobat

scale for 3 hands then proc half if you need to

[daring perch]

an extra 20 mult in my hour of need

[fading cobalt]

Imagine that bro if you don't play a four card hand it resets or sum shit

[brazen island]

gang why isn't steam giving me the c++ achievement?

[fading cobalt]

Play a game of white stake

[brazen island]

ok lol

[fading cobalt]

Its a bug or sum

Playing another game fixes it I think

[brazen island]

bruh do i have to win lmfao

it's not working if i just insta lost

[distant vault]

Have to win

[past path]

chat...

ante24 bean glitch

[serene forge]

good luck having that actually hit..

[past path]

1/6

i sold all my negatives

[heavy hare]

temp value

[past path]

may sell my brainstorm...

[heavy hare]

👅

[past path]

i can just get another one

[serene forge]

so 0 basically

hopefully you find burger

[past path]

i got 18 hands

[past path]

hes ere

i found him negative

[serene forge]

hmm

seems like that paid off

[cloud sinew]

did you sell the juggler...? 😭

[serene forge]

is there a reason you're just keeping a burger around with rebate

[past path]

who needs juggler when you have bean 🤑

[serene forge]

damn i want a burger now

[cloud sinew]

you. because it increases your odds of it hitting a handsize joker

[past path]

eh

i havent sold any negatives yet tbh i went to make a sandwich

[distant vault]

Rough gem so ass

[pale wolf]

hell yes

[past path]

rough gem so peak

i love money

[distant vault]

[past path]

time to go broke

[pale wolf]

eternally broke

the hard part of eternal vagglebond is knowing when to stop

[past path]

never

[cloud sinew]

non-eternal rental chaos my beloved

[fading cobalt]

Round 5 and I rerolled twice but found no mult or chips

What the fuck

[cloud sinew]

no planets?

[fading cobalt]

Would've died anyway

I found like 3 packs and a saturn card

Actually the Saturn would've helped but it was ante 1 round 1 and I opened buffoon pack

[cloud sinew]

saturn has high enough scaling that it definitely wouldve helped

[brazen island]

it worked thanks!!!

[fading cobalt]

Congrats

[brazen island]

idk what to do now honestly

i've spent so many hours grinding for c++ and now that i have it idk what to do

[fading cobalt]

Play for fun

[brazen island]

for sure but having a goal makes it a little easier

maybe i'll go for a streak or smth

[fading cobalt]

The goal is have fun

Its a game 👍

[brazen island]

yeah, i just have more fun when i'm working towards something

[fading cobalt]

Doing challenges perhaps?

[brazen island]

did em all, sadly

oh yeah mods!!!

mod time!!!

[fading cobalt]

Loll

[brazen island]

YOOO I FORGOT

[pale wolf]

lucky cat at 1.25, should i do the cat or vamp...

[brazen island]

i'd banned myself from getting mods until i got c++ now i can go hog wild

[brazen island]

i'd say cat

it's usually easier to scale and lucky cards are good anyway

[slate lance]

Quick question chat

After ur in the blind

If u sell burglar

Does the extra hands dissapear

[past path]

lowk shouldve sold jugglar

[pale wolf]

don't think so

[slate lance]

Ok peak then i should be able to win cruelty easy

[past path]

one bean deactivation is x6 better than a jugglar

[ripe iris]

nope

[prime valve]

No, the hands stay

[pale wolf]

[vocal rose]

the golden joker

[prime valve]

What? I have tried it before

[pale wolf]

yes if not vamp it's golden over abstract i think

[past path]

wuh

[vocal rose]

but you have stm and smiley

[past path]

i havent had showman in like 2 antes

[vocal rose]

thats sum anti synergy there

[pale wolf]

yea I had parking before so more faces

[late helm]

Its poetic really

[last wren]

is chicot good?

[distant vault]

For $10

Yes

[slate lance]

Thabk god

[tranquil oyster]

better than most regular jokers, yeah

[slate lance]

Cruelty aint shi

[silent lark]

anyone want to coach me. i suck at balatro

[last wren]

im guessing hes the worst legendary tho?

[white zodiac]

far from it

[pale wolf]

temperance from the purple seal and hermit from the vagabond immediately
welp

[prime valve]

He is not. Trib is

[white zodiac]

awkward

[tranquil oyster]

imo yes, but he also provides a consistent benefit. canio and yorick can do nothing and kill your run, they just peak much higher.

[white zodiac]

another one on the list

[silent lark]

anyone want to help me get better at balatro. ive been losing almost all my runs and i cant seem to understand why. (if this server had a VC i would be in it rn)

[last wren]

alr thanks

[last wren]

fr

[prime valve]

What challenge was it?

[pale wolf]

i losted

[silent lark]

do you want to call?

[last wren]

yea idm

[pale wolf]

:c this game is too hard and unfair to Be frank!

[slate lance]

Cruelty

3 joker slots
Small blinds AND big blinds give no reward money

[prime valve]

Damn thats scary

[pale wolf]

how does people pretending to have fun

[slate lance]

Wha 😭

Btw why the hell is temperance not banned from jokerless

Kinda stupid...

[hardy moss]

Question does anyone know what the blank voucher actually does

[pale wolf]

you might get hone

[tranquil oyster]

nothing, it says it right there.

[slate lance]

Blank voucher allows for a tier 2 voucher called antimatter to spawn which gives an extra joker slot

[pale wolf]

yea jts the prerequisite for antimatter voucher, +1 joker slot

[hardy moss]

With a question mark

[slate lance]

Whats hone?

[pale wolf]

and also involved in the unlock condition for antimatter

[prime valve]

After 10 bought blanks you can get antimatter which can give you +1 joker slot

[pale wolf]

buying it 10 times before antimatter can appear on that profile

[slate lance]

Oh right u gotta buy blank before antimatter

[hardy moss]

So saves me the haste of adding negative and also reducing my hand size eh

[vocal matrix]

This one actually hurt, great Run carried by the Bean bug, found ecto too late and didn't find good jokers

[prime valve]

Yep

[pale wolf]

ssure yea its powerful if you get it, generally not worth the speculative $10 unless you have a lot of income

[hardy moss]

Golden joker and rocket have been my favourite paired with boots

[tranquil oyster]

blank in regular games is a weird voucher, if you buy it early it'll ruin your economy and if you buy it late you probably won't see antimatter.

[prime valve]

You get bigger chance of getting joker with edition

Best jokerless voucher

[vocal matrix]

I mean, they're good econ Jokers, but there are better convos with boots

[pale wolf]

hone is a voucher that makes natural foils holos and polychromes more common

[vocal rose]

buying vouchers typically doesnt ruin your economy

[analog mulch]

AINT NO WAY

[analog mulch]

It works on playing cards too.....

[tranquil oyster]

it's ten dollars. that effectively costs you two bucks per turn until you hit 25. that's half a gold joker - plenty of money.

[distant vault]

Blank not worth it

[twin lantern]

How it feels playing balatro on a good run

[wicked warren]

bean bug how i love you

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[light tide]

Guys I think I found a good seed

[last wren]

should i be turning kings into aces with strength?

[pale wolf]

sometimes, yea

it's not a bad option

[floral mural]

on the topic just so you know the best ranks are 2s and 9s i think

[ripe iris]

depends

[slate lance]

Wth that exists?

Oh wait

Would that let u get jokers then or what

[pale wolf]

? look in your collection

[floral mural]

with kings showing weak reason to use them as their joker kinda sucks (baron)

[slate lance]

I thoughr ir was smt else 😭

[pale wolf]

the jokers arent more common, just the editions on them

[floral mural]

honestly i don't think id want a voucher that makes jokers even more common in the shop. because when would i need an effect like that

god i dont think i ever take hone

[past path]

this seed lowk cracked

[floral mural]

like editions are nice but arent that important in the grand scheme of things

[slate lance]

So itd just be a waste voucher on jokerless

[floral mural]

how the hell do people here watch videos of the game theyre currently playing and not throw themselves off

[past path]

i never take hone because i want negatives

[past path]

im watching dr spectred so i lock in

[floral mural]

every roguelike i play i never put a video for it in the background because hearing isaac hit sounds while playing isaac will make me go insane

[cosmic sun]

maybe the secret tism power to dissociate background noise

[river compass]

Hey guys someone wants to play mult with me?

Or know where i can talk or find people with it?

[floral mural]

the multiplayer server

[river compass]

I dont have it

😔

[floral mural]

idk what the link to it is but here you wont find matches

[serene forge]

mid ass seed

[floral mural]

no its a good seed they have rebate perkeo and blueprint now they should use thay money to find scoring

[past path]

bean bug is busted

[spark kernel]

Balatro has taken over my brain so much im having dreams about it am i to addicted

[past path]

nah

[fading cobalt]

Is bean copyable?

[serene forge]

mid

[fading cobalt]

Hornet is mid

The Knight 🔛🔝

[serene forge]

no

[fading cobalt]

Yes

Silksong is mid

Overrated game of the year

[tranquil steppe]

You’re cookin

[plain mirage]

100% skill run here

[bleak blaze]

Thats one HIGH card

[plain mirage]

this is the next shop 😭

its already a win anyway

[lyric shore]

now its safer than photochad tho

[warped mango]

very useful 🔥

[past path]

look up bean bug on youtube

[slate lance]

Jokerless is a pain

Ive had a run start to get deceny a couple times but a boss blind f'ed me

[plain mirage]

if photochad wasnt enough the game gave me pvp setup

[slate lance]

Pvp?

[plain mirage]

well pvp is a mod but there is a pvp scene

people commonly use glass cards

[slate lance]

Ohh ok

Thats strange

[rustic aspen]

man I sure love bricking 2 pair of all things

[eternal minnow]

I forgot to check and reroll the boss blind

Gg for this amazing run

[silent lark]

yo im looking for a coach anyone wanna help me out?

[eternal minnow]

What are you struggling with

[silent lark]

everything i guess

[slate lance]

Why is 2 pair bricked?

[eternal minnow]

Lemme watch you play a round

[silent lark]

call?

[rustic aspen]

bricking as in not being able to get a 2 pair in my hand after using up all my hands and discards

ante 1 spare trousers man could've been great

[plain mirage]

daaaamn gambling heaven

[mental ruin]

i love spectral packa

[plain mirage]

(there was nothing)

[simple stream]

I have a quandry

can I take brainstorm? im doing purple stake rn

I don't think I can afford to get rid of smeared joker without risking a fail to bad luck drawing

but the endless potential would be higher

[plain mirage]

i wouldn't take it for ante 8 win

[lyric shore]

with 4 discards and hands i think youll be fine

[simple stream]

hmmm

[plain mirage]

nahhh he'll get the bell

[lyric shore]

if the goal is ante8 definitely leave it

[simple stream]

tragic

I had to pass over a hanging chad too

just trying to get a negative joker rn lol

this run is NOT real

its trying to force me lol

[weak shale]

it’s real

[simple stream]

actually?

all I got was violet maybe I coulda risked it honestly

[low sorrel]

Does hex only work if you have 2+ jokers?

[weak shale]

Nah

[low sorrel]

Ohh can a joker only have 1 thing on it at a time?

[plain mirage]

yeah

[low sorrel]

That makes sense

[plain mirage]

if u have 1 joker and its enhanced u cant use hex

[pale wolf]

hmm

[low sorrel]

I think a cool joker would be one that duplicates a consumable held in your hand at the end of the round

[weak shale]

uh

[plain mirage]

whos gonna tell him

[pale wolf]

lmao

[weak shale]

wow

hmmmmmmm

[low sorrel]

Oh ive never seen that one before

[plain mirage]

yeah that would be soooo cool

what if the consumable is negative too

[weak shale]

YEAH CAUSE IT’S A LEGENDARY

[plain mirage]

crazy

[pale wolf]

there should be a joker that gives +4 mult , could cost $2 or something

gosh I'm tired

[low sorrel]

Its funny ive gotten quite a few legendary jokers across my games but its always canio

[simple stream]

lmao

cania and chicot

[weak shale]

several people misspelled canio at the same time what a coincidence eh

[simple stream]

the one single time I showed my friend this game and let him do a run he pulled 2 legendaries and got perkio and tribulet

[simple stream]

everything I say is a coincidence, nothing ever goes as planned in this accursed world

[simple stream]

always the same ones I swear 😭

[weak shale]

damn several people misspelled perkeo and triboulet at the same time what a coincidence

[simple stream]

okay but I just beat purple stake for the first time

[pale wolf]

canary

[plain mirage]

i dont have proof but judgement just spawned brainstorm

[pale wolf]

sweet

[plain mirage]

my deck cant take it tho i have stencil

actually i also use card sharp its better

[shell rock]

i am very good at this game

[slate lance]

Ive had it spawn a foil blueprint before i thinn

[plain mirage]

moldy popcorn

[slate lance]

😭

[south palm]

Man

[quick solar]

do i just win

round 3

[dark cairn]

is anaglyph deck gold stake just 100% rng or something

cause i have no idea what the fuck i could be doing wrong that i'm only getting past ante 3 once every like 15 runs

[distant vault]

Every seed is rng

[mortal nimbus]

skip tags generally don't help, so just treat it like a deck with no benefit or drawback most of the time

there is no special strat you need for it

[quick solar]

erm

guys am i cooked

[distant vault]

Yea

[dark cairn]

i'm taking the right jokers for the right situations but it either gives shit skip tags so im basically playing a blank deck and i get fucked by scaling
or it doesn't give me the right jokers and i get fucked by scaling
or it gives me the right jokers but theyre all rentals and i get fucked by no economy
or it gives me the right jokers but it spawns the one boss blind that hard counters my build and none of the right consumable cards or skip tags to negate it and i die to the boss
wtf do i do?

its literally like every single thing i try to do ends up being the wrong thing to do

[distant vault]

Or sell stuntman bro

[quick solar]

then i have no scoring

BTHTAUNX

was the seed

you get double stundtman + bp by round 3

and if youre dumb like me you can get 2 ectos

• neg tag chad

[foggy sun]

if only there were a solution to our problem

its called resetting

[quick solar]

i coudlve rolled down and hoped for luchador or something

[dark cairn]

wow another case of the game fucking me over with rng what a shocker
i thought gold stake was supposed to be difficult, not a game of russian roulette every 2 seconds

[quick solar]

ew

just become doc and get c++ all in one win streak

by not taking uncesseary risks

[foggy sun]

How the game feels after sending a suit boss to u when ur running ancient joker (im using wild cards)

[quick solar]

i mean there are ways to mitigate rng

[dark cairn]

like what, using seeds?

too bad that doesn't count for c+

[quick solar]

no

[quick solar]

you know doc got it all in one winstreak without resetting right

i mean i probably couldnt

but theres more skill than you might think

[dark cairn]

something about the way he plays feels off to me
i dont trust his accomplishments

he gets way too lucky way too often

[quick solar]

i mean theres other people with like 30+ gold stake streaks

[quick solar]

like when

[dark cairn]

cool well i dont play 20 hours a day

[dark cairn]

literally every single video

[quick solar]

??

he litterally does gold stake walkthroughs

and explains every decision he makes

and also streams

[dark cairn]

and half the time the decisions he makes doesn't make any sense
he takes unnecessary risks and always gets rewarded for it

[quick solar]

?????

litterally every decision he makes makes sense to me

[dark cairn]

but i take only risks that are necessary and yet i still get screwed over

[quick solar]

give me a timestamp on any one of these videos where he takes more risk than is necessary and it wins him the run

[dark cairn]

bud im not spending 10 hours sifting through that

but i know damn well i could write an entire list if i could

[tranquil cargo]

if you've seen it happen many times before, it shouldn't take 10 hours to find 1 instance of it happening

[flat warren]

Does multiple Showman increase odds of multiple cards?

[tranquil cargo]

nope

[dark cairn]

10 hours to find all of them, not 1, smartass

[tranquil cargo]

he only asked you for 1 though

[dark cairn]

he didnt specify but sure
either way im in game right now why would i stop playing for that

[royal shale]

"give me A timestamp on any ONE of these videos..." yes they specified

[dark cairn]

ok what's your point
i'm doing shit right now

[vocal rose]

I’d take a break for now

you’re upset about constantly losing which will only get worse

[quick solar]

and also if balatro was mostly luck then the multiplayer scene would be in shambles

[dark cairn]

well i got a good start so im giving it one last try but yes after this run inevitably goes to shit i will take a veyr long break

[vocal rose]

since your coping by undermining another VERY skilled players work

[quick solar]

there are some players that are clearly better than others

and consistently so

[dark cairn]

except multiplayer has a lot of behind the scenes modifications that heavily mitigate rng

[vocal rose]

when it gets to that point i’d take a break

[dark cairn]

obviously
id just like to know what i'm doing wrong when it seems like the game is just fucking me over for no reason

[shell dagger]

In the second most recent he does not start the run well at all, but it isnt really a high risk that pays off, more so a good start that allowed for mistakes

[vocal rose]

you’ve convinced yourself that the game is luck when other people are actually able to play well

not good

[tranquil cargo]

the multiplayer game has very little to do with whether single player is luck based or skill based

[quick solar]

ignoring the multiplayer specific jokers, playing multiplayer against set blinds is almost indistinguishable fom regular balatro

[dark cairn]

that's not what i've been told by people who play it

but maybe i just misunderstood i guess i dunno

[balmy ridge]

i cant even get multiplayer to work :c

[shell dagger]

U already posted this smh

[vocal rose]

multiplayer shouldn’t even be brought up in regards to normal balatro gameplay

[royal shale]

multiplayer also gives extra lives and theres no boss blinds after ante 1 (just PVP blinds), it is not comparable

[vocal rose]

it’s fundamentally different and irrelevant

[royal shale]

also economy in multiplayer is different cuz you get paid for dying

[quick solar]

yeah thats fair enough

[vocal rose]

Yeah I don’t get the multiplayer comparison

[quick solar]

i meant more like the shop / pack etc. rng is basically the same

[vocal rose]

it’s soooo different from winning consistently

in gold stake ante 8 runs

[quick solar]

blinds are very differnt ill agree

but being good at multiplayer balatro and being good at regular balatro has a very high overlap

[fringe crest]

hi

[quick solar]

although of courrse not 100%

[vocal rose]

anyways @dark cairn there are plenty of people in here with 20-30+ win streaks on gold stake which correlates to their skill level and decision making, not luck

you’ll get to a point like that eventually

there’s no eureka moment but every seed is absolutely winnable

[vocal rose]

no it doesn’t lmao

you score high against another player on white stake typically

gold stake ante 8 overscoring can disadvantage you

[quick solar]

makes sense

im not that into the balatro scene so thats what made sense to me but i wouldnt be surprised if im completely wrong

[vocal rose]

I mean the similarities are that you’re playing balatro

[quick solar]

like in other games with both single player and multiplayer running theres usually a very high correlation but maybe not in balatro yeah

like in mcsr

or tetris

[vocal rose]

the correlation from multiplayer to regular play would just be endless play

[crystal field]

different playstyles be different

and thank god this chat is better

[quick solar]

yeah i guess comparing it to high score / endless runs is better than ante 8 gold stake

[crystal field]

not necessarily

the goal is to try and get as high of a score each boss round for multiplayer

[dark cairn]

and i just threw the run because i took an eternal merry andy with grimbo as my main source of +mult
fml

[crystal field]

i dont rlly like the balatro multiplayer tbh

[quick solar]

yeah i think the fact that you dirctly interact with your opponent makes it alot more engaging but also makes it further removed from vanilla

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[quick solar]

like i multiplayer balatro was litterally

[serene forge]

I hate Baron

[thin finch]

so ig flush 5 doesnt work huh

[quick solar]

who can get to ante 8/16 while losing the least amount of blinds

[vocal rose]

see this isn’t a case of luck

that’s you making a terrible decision

[lyric shore]

yea that seems way more boring

[quick solar]

maybe but some mutliplayer games are of that format

in which case the overlap betwene singleplayer and mutliplayer is alot higher

cause theres much less adversairtal strateiges

[unborn cliff]

you have to play the 5th card to activate it actyally

🤓

[lyric shore]

i enjoy that it isnt good at vanilla = good at multiplayer

[vocal rose]

question, are the other games you’re talking about support multiplayer?

weird question but multiplayer for balatro would also be very different

from any other game

[quick solar]

usually not natively

like tetris

or mcsr

[unborn cliff]

ante 1 flush 5

i guess bro

[quick solar]

those are the ones im most knowledgable about

well theres also different kinds of mutlipayer tetris

like ctwc and twc have extremely different formats

[vocal rose]

I thought you could just type in tetr.io and load up a game instantly

[quick solar]

yeah thats modern tetris

for classic (nes) tetris no such thing exists tho

[cosmic sun]

the skip so madness doesnt eat cavendish moment

[quick solar]

imagine cavenish just pops anyways

[dark cairn]

wtf i just found a nat negative popcorn LOL

Well i might as well take it since it's ante 7

[unborn cliff]

who cares they win ante 8 anyways

[serene forge]

reading the card explains the card

flushes take four cards instead of five

it doesnt say five of a kinds take four cards

[unborn cliff]

i loooove perkeo

[vocal rose]

bruh

[unborn cliff]

22 ecto....

[dark cairn]

i did it guys... anaglyph deck gold stake is done

all it took was showman + grimbo

and to think it only gets worse from here 😒 i dont even want to think about how long plasma deck or black deck will take me

anyway gtg

[tranquil otter]

dw plasma is more inconsistent than difficult. its just hard to reliably get things that scale well enough, but its not that hard to reset a lot of runs until one of them goes well a few times

[novel moss]

Plasma ain't too bad with chips. Black deck tho...

[tranquil otter]

black deck is honestly similar

very inconsistent and punishing when things dont go your way but very managable if you know what you're doing

[tranquil cargo]

black deck is definitely a lot weaker than plasma deck

plasma deck has a very strong early game, allowing you to easily build econ while you look for long-term scoring (usually in the form of chips)

black deck needs to find scoring ASAP or it could die as early as ante 1 boss, and its econ sucks

[terse dock]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1415780753735680151

Ccccc

[crystal field]

isnt this just better oops

oh wait its a whole ass thread

[unborn cliff]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[tranquil cargo]

per card

[dark cairn]

i meant stuntman btw my brain is fried rn

stuntman is actually insane

you can just spam high card

[unborn cliff]

pair

[dark cairn]

if you get a supernova or grimbo you'd be more inclined to play high card i feel

[unborn cliff]

i guess

[terse dock]

Mustard

[dark cairn]

pairs are pretty easy to get but high card is literally always available (unless you're fighting the psychic maybe)

and with stuntman reducing your hand size by 2 i feel like that consistency matters more especially since the bonus chips from playing pairs literally do not matter with stuntman giving 250

[dark cairn]

lmao what

[jagged valve]

Challenges are easier than normal decks

Rich get richer 1st try

[dark cairn]

well lack of consistency is what pissed me off for 2 hours with anaglyph deck

[tranquil otter]

2 hours?

[dark cairn]

I don't know why but i pretty much blasted through all the way up to gold stake

[tranquil otter]

anaglyph deck is pretty consistent

[dark cairn]

and then once i got to gold stake the game just said

[tranquil otter]

as in consistently doing nothing

[dark cairn]

ok your free trial of having fun is over, time to die

[dark cairn]

had so much fun doing shit in my orange stake run i said i thought it might be my new favourite deck
game apparently didn't like that

[tranquil otter]

yeah i mean gold stake is just much more punishing than orange

rental jokers make more jokers useless and give you less money to do what you want

[lunar zealot]

Get to tatting boy

[quick solar]

if you had stuntman was grimbo even doing anything

[proven walrus]

What should i sell for baron?

[cloud sinew]

chad at this point

actually

[quick solar]

like stuntman alone is 15k

[dark cairn]

he got up to +60 mult or something like that, was my main source of +mult for the whole run

[unborn cliff]

why does deja vu chase after me on gold stake but hides like a white rabbit in the snow on white stake

[dark cairn]

??

[quick solar]

on plasma right

[dark cairn]

250 = 15000?

[unborn cliff]

plasma

[cloud sinew]

i would drop hologram or stuntman, whichever is lower. chad is potentially econ

[dark cairn]

no i was on anaglyph deck

[proven walrus]

stuntman?

[cloud sinew]

yorick

mb

[jade arch]

What do you guys think about my joker build?

[quick solar]

stuntman + 60 mult grimbo is only like 24k

[unborn cliff]

awesome

[dark cairn]

do embeds work in this server i forgot

[quick solar]

60 mult grinbo is equal to 2 scary face triggers