🕹・game-discussion

[minor portal]

green seal

[spark kernel]

Im going to do red stake

[wintry ice]

what other utility effect is there for these seals

[manic zealot]

generally?

[pale wolf]

spectral seal

[spark kernel]

How hard is red stake

[pale wolf]

not

[spark kernel]

Best deck for red stake?

[pale wolf]

although I think red steak has a significant impact on the rest of the stakes, just red stake affect on its own is not threatening

[manic zealot]

stuff that gives you money and also enough points to survive

[pale wolf]

just play

[spark kernel]

So green or yellow deck

[summer solstice]

Why should I sell

[manic zealot]

those help fs

[summer solstice]

What

[wintry ice]

it's considerably harder than white

[heady narwhal]

world's most pairs build

[pale wolf]

so ready for the obelisk

[heady narwhal]

i mean not really. grimbo should be at +80 or something

i got it in ante 4 and was also lazy with overscoring

[manic zealot]

what's your scaling on your jokers

[summer solstice]

I got trib

I risked it

[manic zealot]

worth

[heady narwhal]

half joker gotta be one of the best jokers to get early

i mean maybe not as nice as like mystic summit

but it carries for quite a while

[calm furnace]

lmao i got negative seeing double on a pair run today

[calm furnace]

i respectfully disagree

i rather have popcorn or any non scaling flat mult

[supple veldt]

splash pot is a synergy i did not expect to be using for any of my runs

[heady narwhal]

i'm just usually glad to see any non-scaling +mult

[calm furnace]

thats why abstract is the goat

[heady narwhal]

half joker is also nice because it gives you an excuse to be really lazy with discards and such

[supple veldt]

why you hate halfsies

[heady narwhal]

you can just play a pair of 10s and call it a day

[calm furnace]

cant discard extra cards inside the hand itself

[supple veldt]

fair

[heady narwhal]

with something like summit (which is quite good!!) you still have to discard for a straight or whatever

[calm furnace]

makes finding gold and blue seals harder

[shell dagger]

Early on that doesn’t matter

[supple veldt]

well the point was really good early right?

when you dont have seals

[pale wolf]

I can't see any reason why you would want popcorn over half

[slate lance]

Not necessary if u dont need a 2nd or 3rd

[calm furnace]

discards

[pale wolf]

what about half stops you from discarding

[heady narwhal]

half joker lasts a lot longer

[supple veldt]

you lose 2 cards per hand played

[shell dagger]

Half joker you can turn off which is op

[calm furnace]

you cant discard in the hand you play

[heady narwhal]

it doesn't last forever because of psychic but like,

[heady narwhal]

this too

conditions are great

[pale wolf]

It's the acrobat effect, it's only active when it needs to be

[calm furnace]

half joker annoying early game trying to get 3oak

when its not scaled

[heady narwhal]

a pair of 10s is 660 points

[slate lance]

U just need another mult, u cant base ur entire.thing off of one gimmick

[pale wolf]

just play pairs?

[slate lance]

3 oak > pair

[heady narwhal]

that gets you through a1 boss for free and most of a2 as well

[calm furnace]

telescope value

[pale wolf]

Yes, you get better telescope value when it's on pairs because pairs are a better hand

[heady narwhal]

pairs give you telescope value

with other handtypes you have to be mindful of your high card usage

or else telescope bricks

[wintry ice]

pairs are the one hand you have consistent telescope on

[calm furnace]

wym

[pale wolf]

besides High card itself

[calm furnace]

telescope is a great and borderline a must for flushes

[heady narwhal]

with other handtypes you have to be mindful of your high card usage
or else telescope bricks

[slate lance]

#🎙・server-chat is rhe deadest shit ive ever seen

[wintry ice]

what monkey from rhythm heaven fever said

[calm furnace]

photochad ancient and bloodstone wont score shit without jupiter

[heady narwhal]

also, +15 chips on a hand that you play 4 times in a round is better than +20 chips on a hand that you probably play twice at most

[pale wolf]

yeah but there's a high chance that you're most played hand isn't even flush on a flush build

oftentimes telescope reduces the Jupiter's you're getting

[heady narwhal]

i wouldn't worryabout bloodstone here

[wintry ice]

how often sre runs going to be flush with repeating xmult

[heady narwhal]

it won't score shit with jupiter either

[slate lance]

If its checkered then it will be

[pale wolf]

ok.

[calm furnace]

plenty otherwise why play flush

[pale wolf]

You don't

[slate lance]

Idk only like 10% of my non checkered runs have anything to do with flushes ngl

[heady narwhal]

is arrowhead a flush joker? i feel like i use it on 4oak instead usually

[pale wolf]

I think it very much justifies flushes

[wintry ice]

there isn't much of a reason to since it's scaling is not high enough to justify using it without specific jokers

[pale wolf]

but I don't think it's bad with other hand types

[calm furnace]

works well even in 3oak

150 chips is good

[modest spade]

Setting up Telescope on flushes is not ideal, especially if you're doing Ancient Joker, more often than not you're gonna have to do throwaway hands which brick Telescope, so you'd rather rely on blue seals instead

[slate lance]

Arent all of those powerful suit jokers supposed to encourage flushes

Heck even the littler ones

[heady narwhal]

i wouldn't call most of em powerful

[spark kernel]

Faces

[modest spade]

Obviously I'm not saying Telescope flush is impossible

[pale wolf]

Like early on Arrowhead always locks me into flushes, and it wins
but I have taken it for pair builds before where I'm completely planetless

[slate lance]

I would

[modest spade]

But Telescope is for pairs, not flushes

[wintry ice]

honestly i would rather have scalibg chips over arrow most of the time

it's still a good joker

but kinda overrated

[heady narwhal]

arrowhead is nice, agate is mid af, rough gem is maybe an ok value generator but it's way too expensive to justify buying early, bloodstone might as well say "1 in 1 chance for x1 mult"

[pale wolf]

agate is aight

[fair flower]

Should I ecto here or get a red seal king?

[calm furnace]

depends on the setup. had telescope work with straights

[slate lance]

I will not be taking onyx agate slander >:[

[heady narwhal]

i feel like it compares unfavorably to arrowhead and fibonacci and whatnot

[wintry ice]

using telescope with straights is tough if you don't have shortcut

[heady narwhal]

it's very nice early though!! i'll give it that

i just feel a little uneasy using it later on

[wintry ice]

that aside

anecdotes are unreliable

[pale wolf]

I think my biggest problem with telescope is that it sort of necessitates lobotomy
If you're using a specific hand to scale a joker, leveling it up will let you scale it less...

[slate lance]

Holy shit wrrowhead looks like a plug

[heady narwhal]

i think telescope is a bad voucher

as in poorly designed

[modest spade]

Don't say that...

[unborn cliff]

this year... im thankful for balatro

[heady narwhal]

makes the game less fun imo

[calm furnace]

why

[slate lance]

Im sorry 😭

[pale wolf]

As in bad game design, not weak in the game

[slate lance]

Im thankful for almost finally being done with c+

[calm furnace]

telescope makes opening planet packs not be a gamble

and thats fun

[modest spade]

I don't mind Telescope tbh

[heady narwhal]

people always point to -1 consumable slot as the reason that nebula deck is miserable but i think the upside is also at fault here

[unborn cliff]

im already done with it noob 😂

[heady narwhal]

gambling is fun wdym !!

[vale wharf]

3 legendaries in a day is insane

[calm furnace]

wasting 8$ for nothing is fun?

[modest spade]

I find Telescope a fun way to build planets when it's on anything other than pairs

[wintry ice]

telescope will be more fun when blue stake is changed

[calm furnace]

if you find gambling fun just play bloodstone without oops

[modest spade]

Telescope straights is cool

[calm furnace]

this applies to so many things 😩

[heady narwhal]

honestly spending on jumbo and mega packs feels like more of a waste when i do have telescope than when i don't

[pale wolf]

what situation do you even find yourself in telescope straights though, it's not good for runner scaling, so you have to have shortcut or something

[wintry ice]

it's a pretty high chance you'll get a planet that does something

even if it's a future mars or venus

[calm furnace]

if you find tele in ante 4 and straigjts are your kost played hand

[modest spade]

I mean, Runner is not a straights joker anyway

[wintry ice]

that usually doesn't happen

[sinful prairie]

No shit Sherlock but that doesn't happen often
-# /nm

[calm furnace]

what would mars to do me if im building a flush or straight build

[pale wolf]

That's what I'm saying, the most likely situation for having straights as your most played hand is one where you don't even want telescope or to get straight levels

[wintry ice]

yea that's why it's not good for it

[indigo laurel]

Baron mime blueprint
Do i copy mime or baron? No steels just bare kings

[heady narwhal]

what if telescope was "planet packs always contain your most recently used planet card" ?

[pale wolf]

I would like it

[modest spade]

Painted and Abandoned can potentially lead to telescope straights? It's a thing that can happen

It's just a possible wincon

[wintry ice]

pivoting to a hand that has more than 15 chips of scaling

[indigo laurel]

Also in case of steel which is better?

[calm furnace]

oh sheesh its like we are playing a rouge like game where everything doesnt always happen

[pale wolf]

https://efhiii.github.io/balatro-calculator/

[calm furnace]

chat is balatro random?

[modest spade]

I'd be fine with that too

[pale wolf]

it is seeded random

[wintry ice]

so why use an exception as an argument

[heady narwhal]

more or less

[indigo laurel]

I feel like this is common for everybody not needed a calc so i just asked here but kay

[calm furnace]

i was joking about the earlier reply

[heady narwhal]

what does "calc" mean

[indigo laurel]

calculus II

[heady narwhal]

ah i understand thanks

[indigo laurel]

❤️‍🩹

[pale wolf]

caligula

[heady narwhal]

usually copy baron here

[grand bloom]

Hello people, I am new to balatro, any strategy suggestions?

[heady narwhal]

play pairs

[wintry ice]

going with the flow of the seed and valuing economy

[pale wolf]

Go on to YouTube and check out balatro University, drspectred's channel

[heady narwhal]

this is better advice

[modest spade]

Adapt to what the shop gives you and don't try to force strategies that rely on a specific joker to show up

[heady narwhal]

balatrobe University

[calm furnace]

just play without guides until you hit a wall

[grand bloom]

Okay thanks guys

[wintry ice]

you reminded me to play balatrodle

[pale wolf]

Pairs, blue seals, gold cards, saving money for interest, avoid skipping in almost every situation

[summer solstice]

My best run ever

[calm furnace]

uhm one advice i give

[nova mantle]

finished this solely for the pants sticker, wouldve liked to sticker more jokers but none appeared ;((

[calm furnace]

learn to one shot small blind and two shot the rest of ante 1

[sinful prairie]

Two gay brainstorms... nice

[calm furnace]

a 5 card hand needs the first 5 cards to score more than 40 to get 300 points

[pale wolf]

That's not a great way of simplifying it I think

[indigo laurel]

❤️

[wintry ice]

flushes need 35 chips total from cards
straights need 40

[nova mantle]

be nicer to the needle please

theyre js doing their job

[indigo laurel]

Thankfully i got my emotional support with me

[pale wolf]

The five card hands need your chips to end up at 75 x 4 and straight- flush -full House go 30 35 40

[calm furnace]

lucky cat irl!

[wintry ice]

or is it 40 and 45

yea

[pale wolf]

sry

[fair flower]

Should I get sock here?

[calm furnace]

straights should start from 8 for 300

[indigo laurel]

Ante 1 immolate or wraith
I love gambling i wanna wraith

[wintry ice]

getting a generic mult joker is also great if there are no other options

[heady narwhal]

clever joker

[modest spade]

Immolate bro

[fair flower]

Instead of hanging Chad right?

[nova mantle]

bait, everybody knows cats dont exist irl

[calm furnace]

always immolate

[pale wolf]

straights are described by their highest card not their lowest

[heady narwhal]

is it good to open spectrals below interest?

[nova mantle]

theyre a fiction piece created by localfunk

[pale wolf]

Queen high straight minimum

[indigo laurel]

Turns out its the pick 2 pack and i got blueprint and 20$ heck yeah

[fair flower]

Damn I never thought about that

[heady narwhal]

i love gambling but i could see it being a bad move

[nova mantle]

immolate

[pale wolf]

doc does

I think the chance of trance is just too enticing

[nova mantle]

either trance or immolate is too good to not open a spectral pack

[modest spade]

if not winstreaking: fuck it and ball, it's gonna be immolate
if winstreaking: probably not

[sinful prairie]

The immense dopamine one gets when the good cards "magically" evade Immolation must be studied

[heady narwhal]

doc dislikes stm though ......

[calm furnace]

even purple aint so bad

[fair flower]

Btw Zeba, will replacing Chad with sock give more value or should I do oops all 6s

[jagged torrent]

Kittyyyy 🩷 🩷 🩷

[pale wolf]

I don't think I'm at the point where I risk spectral packs if I'm going to go below 20

[wintry ice]

getting ankh, familiar, hex and grim is also fine

[fair flower]

CARRRRRRR

[pale wolf]

mime 100%

[nova mantle]

and if youre running holo theres 4 different cards that give xmult

[heady narwhal]

i feel like spectrals are a pretty safe bet if you'd end up with like $10

[calm furnace]

wish i could relate lost my only red seal today on an immolate on painted deck

[fair flower]

I do have a bunch of red steel kings, should I still replace mime?

[heady narwhal]

you don't get set back much in econ and there's a chance for immolate

or trans

[jagged torrent]

New game idea evil balatro

[sinful prairie]

Oh my god I'm so sorry 🫂 fr though it happens to the best of us

[calm furnace]

holo and spectrals just go so hard

[jagged torrent]

It's balatro but uh evil

[pale wolf]

uhhhh idk it depends on your goals

[nova mantle]

dont know where youre getting yo immos coz mine eat all my blue seals and edition cards

[pale wolf]

If you expect to get Baron in the future then yes you kill Chad

or photo maybe

probably photo actually

[fair flower]

Oh yeah I get more scoring

[calm furnace]

is oujia the worst spectral?

[jagged cliff]

bro, you're the Idol lawyer

[fair flower]

From Chad than photo

[pale wolf]

almost always the worst one available

[heady narwhal]

the soul:

[wintry ice]

ouija sucks

[pale wolf]

I am finding a new appreciation for Ouija when you have +hand size

[calm furnace]

always felt it would go nice on painted since -1 hands aint so bad

[modest spade]

The Soul has a 1/5 chance of giving you Triboulet... Stinky...

[calm furnace]

but never got the chance

[pale wolf]

Early painted Ouija felt very nice to win on, very consistent

[pale wolf]

hand size

[indigo laurel]

Cant wait to fumble this

[heady narwhal]

yeah i think ouija is the worst one

what's the second worst ?

i don't like sigil very much

[modest spade]

Wraith imo

[pale wolf]

I think they're pretty contextual, like ankh and hex are completely useless if you can't use them

I think wraith is pretty bad a lot of the time

[modest spade]

Sigil is bad but innocent for the most part

[wintry ice]

sigil and wraith are about equal

[heady narwhal]

hex is my most used spectral so it must be good

[calm furnace]

i remember a clip of roffle using oujia on serpent

was funnt

[pale wolf]

only because of a certain deck

[nova mantle]

sigil is a 1 in 2 chance of getting a stinky suit

i aint a big fan of it tbh

[calm furnace]

waith when you are in debt tho 😩

[wintry ice]

i take it with castle

[pale wolf]

The Blackboard bias is not so big that it really matters what sigil lands on

Blackboard bias just matters about no direction

[modest spade]

Oh that's smart

[heady narwhal]

how do grim/familiar/incantation stack up against each other?

i personally think grim > incantation > familiar because i hate face cards

[pale wolf]

I think in general you listed them in order from best of worst

[nova mantle]

grim's my favorite outta the 3 of em

[calm furnace]

grim best?

[summer solstice]

Best run yet!

[pale wolf]

Grimm is a guaranteed rank, and if you're holding it in the round it's a guaranteed pair get out of jail card

[calm furnace]

i like incintation if i have hologram

[heady narwhal]

grim can let you play 3oak aces and maybe avoid crashing the bus

[calm furnace]

fair

[wintry ice]

grimm

like hollow knight

[nova mantle]

aces are so good as a rank so getting 2 of em for free is nice

[sinful prairie]

I use my Streamer Luck (100% effective)

[fervent wolf]

She's not watching rn so I can finally text here

[calm furnace]

i mostly use those cards with hologram tbf

[pale wolf]

what

[nova mantle]

whos she

[fervent wolf]

Offline rn

[pale wolf]

🦓

[modest spade]

Ok man

[wintry ice]

aces are also close to 2s

[sinful prairie]

Might as well give us the whole riddle while you're at it, Mysterious Negative Ceremonial Dagger
-# /lh

[pale wolf]

yeah and they say second is the best

[nova mantle]

brosky thought they interesting 😭 quit playing dawg

[heady narwhal]

i think familiar and incantation are pretty close

[heady narwhal]

facecards bad and all but incantation isn't really going to help that much with deckfixing

[nova mantle]

incantation better cuz extra .25 on holo

[heady narwhal]

at least with familiar your deck is more concentrated towards certain ranks

[fervent wolf]

I too Fouler's problem off his hands

@hasty harness I deserve some thanks in this Thanksgiving

[neat haven]

has anyone had cavendish break on them

[fair flower]

Is the blueprint worth it?

[fervent wolf]

Never

[nova mantle]

nuh uh

[pale wolf]

My first one ever broke in like four or five rounds, I didn't realize it was that significant at the time though because I was pretty new

[heady narwhal]

bp + bloodstone is technically higher ev than oops + bloodstone but also it'll kill you

[fervent wolf]

Cavendish has never broke

For me

[fair flower]

So I just get rid of Chad and copy sock?

[modest spade]

What is Mime doing for you, exactly

[heady narwhal]

i feel like mime is kind of a pipe dream here

[pale wolf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1387860177939726448/1403122996796854423/2025080723021400-EE327B3F1EA16B12FE45F55BCABC4BD6.mov?ex=692a0f9f&is=6928be1f&hm=2d8379ae21d59bef0c0c4ec9fc9b563e31a4bc3f1afc0b600d25eb19d7b69b2b&
here's the earliest Cavendish (and Cavendish extinct) i've ever seen footage of

[fair flower]

Red seal steel kings scoring

[pale wolf]

and likely ever will see footage of

[heady narwhal]

that's like x3 mult

if you're playing 5 card flush

[fair flower]

So I'm better off ditching the mime?

[heady narwhal]

i think so

[fair flower]

Alr

[pale wolf]

Like I said, depends on the goal of the run

[heady narwhal]

baron's not going to show up with this econ so i wouldn't worry about naneinf

[modest spade]

Not ideal when you're playing 5 card hands

[pale wolf]

this was a good thumbnail

[winged vault]

chat, will I break the ante 32 curse?

[vale wharf]

How long does it usually take to C++?

[winged vault]

the nightmare is over

[pale wolf]

250h

[steel chasm]

I now have had Balatro for 1 year

[winged vault]

depends

[slate lance]

Idj tho cause imagine

U have insane handsize

[vale wharf]

Why aren't you putting all the BPs on mime?

[slate lance]

Or u choose the destroy 1 add 4 random enhanced bedire doing ouija

Itll make a LOT of cards

Of the same value

[winged vault]

Before the other mine, the config was the best according to the balatro calculator

when I tried to redo the calculation with the new mine, it crashed chrome lol

because it ran out of memory

chrome

bruh

oh ye

[vale wharf]

Oh my god

Get off your high horse, it's only white stake /s

[winged vault]

you have no idea the pain and suffering I've gone through to get to this point lmao

[neat haven]

im on my first orange stake.

[winged vault]

I couldn't for the life of me get past ante 32 on another seed I was doing

I broke the curse, finally lol

[sinful prairie]

I'm gonna eat all your planets

Good job naneinf'ing!

[vale wharf]

What seed did you use?

[winged vault]

thanks. I've naneinf'd before, but I wanted to do an ante 39 run

[winged vault]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1441015774725541919

[sinful prairie]

Very nice!

[vale wharf]

Ante Miku run

[sinful prairie]

MIKU IN MY BALATRO?

[slate lance]

Ok is seeded naneinf rllybthat impressive

;-;

[lunar zealot]

If the seed isn't scouted

seeded naneinf can tend to be a science

[slate lance]

Ig so

[lunar zealot]

As in like inspection and careful routing and scouting of the seed

[winged vault]

seedless would cause me to unalive myself lol

[lunar zealot]

unseeded naneinf is more impressive though

simply because it's unseeded

[sinful prairie]

Don't get me started 💀
-# /lh, relate

[slate lance]

Fair enough 😭

[winged vault]

it is, I just don't have the sanity for it

flashback to purple seal rerolling saga

[sinful prairie]

Purple Stake for the Violet Vessel... it was bound to happen /j

You can do it

[slate lance]

I'll try to get a naneinf once im done with all other achievements

[fringe crest]

ill try dawg

[lunar zealot]

i actually still haven't beaten all the challenges

[sinful prairie]

I believe in you both

[lunar zealot]

additionally my highest win streak is 2

[fringe crest]

im using square joker and brainstorm for all of my scoring rn

[slate lance]

Thx but first i got like 100 jokers left to go on c++ 😭

[sinful prairie]

Much better - you'll have more patience that way

[fringe crest]

i got a pretty fortunate flush run

[vale wharf]

Miku joker:
this joker gains +3 chips and x.09mult if played hand contains a 3 and a 9

[slate lance]

Yeah amd besides I don't like switching tasks suddenly

[sinful prairie]

I see, at least you've already got some good progress going!

[sinful prairie]

I see what you did there.

[fringe crest]

ok i actually mighr have good odds

[sinful prairie]

BURGER...

[sinful prairie]

I see many planets, much win

[slate lance]

Yahh

[vale wharf]

67 joker:
this joker gains 67 chips for every 6 and 7 in your deck
67

[sinful prairie]

[vale wharf]

[sinful prairie]

No! Not again!
-# /lh

[vale wharf]

How do you make subscript?

[slate lance]

Banned

[brisk bluff]

Guys the boss blind totally won’t kill me right

[humble gulch]

Something is telling me to kill the run

[sinful prairie]

Do -# for every line break

Example:
*-# hello hello
Looks like (without the asterisk):
-# hello hello

[pale wolf]

idk

[pale wolf]

chaos +++

[slate lance]

Holo reroll isnt bad

U can survive the first 4 rounds w that AND get a free reroll

[sinful prairie]

Ante 1 holo is good, yeah...

[sinful prairie]

But the BARON... and the HEX...

Do it for The Funny

[lunar zealot]

No

Bad

[slate lance]

Dont do it 😭

[lunar zealot]

get off the couch

[sinful prairie]

But The Funny :(

[vale wharf]

-#I see

It didn't work

[humble gulch]

I'd love to buy that Deja Vu

[pale wolf]

space

[vale wharf]

-# I get it now

[fringe crest]

i fucking hate violet vessel

[slate lance]

WHYD YOU TAKE HEX BARON NO

[vale wharf]

+# I guess + makes superscript?

[sinful prairie]

YAYYYYYYYY THE FUNNY

[vale wharf]

Oh, it does not

[lunar zealot]

tit

[humble gulch]

It's the funny play

[pale wolf]

lmfao

BIG WORD

[slate lance]

:[

[pale wolf]

BIGGER WORD

[lunar zealot]

slightly smaller word

[sinful prairie]

use # only

*# BIG TEXT

BIG TEXT

[lunar zealot]

not very big word

[vale wharf]

Ohhhhhh

[lunar zealot]

-# pretty tiny word

[vale wharf]

Ballslatro

[sinful prairie]

[lunar zealot]

Feddy

[sinful prairie]

HEYYY YOU DID IT!!
-# /positive

[winged vault]

🫡

[thick citrus]

I spent all my money

[sinful prairie]

You live up to your name (King in Yellow, Yellow Deck) very nice

[winged vault]

also, king in yellow is an underrated book

[humble gulch]

If it's Perkeo i'll kill someone

Yo, Rick

[winged vault]

let's fucking go

[sinful prairie]

He's chill 🔥

[winged vault]

I'm done with Balatro for a while

I got what I wanted

[sinful prairie]

Good stuff, Call

Hell yeah

I took a break after doing unseeded lol it's valid

[winged vault]

I actually haven't been playing the game for quite a while

got the urge to pick it back up after watching too many high score balatro runs

[sinful prairie]

Ah yes, like the Green Goblin mask calling out to you

[stark karma]

does brainstorm go for rebate?

[winged vault]

rebate?

mail-in?

[stark karma]

yes?

[winged vault]

ah yeah

sorry, I forgot the rebate in mail-in rebate lol

[stark karma]

everyone calls it rebate

[winged vault]

are you asking if brainstorm will do rebate as well or?

[stark karma]

I'm asking if I sell brainstorm for rebate

[winged vault]

yeah I know, I'm just cooked by the hours of ante 39 runs

[winged vault]

how's your deck?

[stark karma]

fixing it with dna

[hasty harness]

peep the build

[stark karma]

def a build

[winged vault]

I would get rid of dna, personally

you can death the rest

[stark karma]

I need more cards and it gets me stronger

[winged vault]

and if you get a spectral with cryptid, then you're fine

[stark karma]

also I can find brainstorm again

I lowkey need money rn

800 bucks at ante 16 is kinda bad

[winged vault]

you'll farm the vast majority from gold cards

[stark karma]

I mean I'm gonna need the dna eventually

rly?

okay

so do I hold

keep my jokers like they are

I would prefer a third blueprint

I'm planning money farm into showman, into blueprint

[winged vault]

you would need ecto for that

[stark karma]

and then wait on the antimatter for brainstorm

[stark karma]

no?

I would prefer a blueprint over my brainstorm

[winged vault]

here's what I suggest: Your first hand should have BPs and BS at DNA

[hasty harness]

what goes here ig scary right

[winged vault]

I'm saying if you want another BP, you'll need to be looking for ecto

[stark karma]

obv

[winged vault]

you'll need to be looking for ecto anyway tbh

[stark karma]

I already ectod

why would I need a second one

[hasty harness]

and now chad dies lol

[stark karma]

I just need antimatter

[winged vault]

sorry. Assuming you sell DNA at some point, then yeah

[winged vault]

oh, if you haven't picked that up, even better

[stark karma]

dawg what

these are my jokers

[winged vault]

Are you doing ante 39?

[stark karma]

no

just naneinf

I thought ante 39 without perkeo or lucky negatives wasnt possible?

[winged vault]

sorry, I just got off an ante 39 run so that's all I've been thinking about lmao

[stark karma]

I never mentioned ante 39

okay

well now that you know I'm just trying to hit naneinf

do I stay as is

do i take rebate for money gen

my vouchers arent the best but I have four tags

fuck not even blank.....

[winged vault]

well, the eventual goal is to get another copying joker, BP ideally. Right now, you don't have many cards in your deck and, unless you want to find a perkeo, you'll likely be relying on serpent to get you to naneinf

[stark karma]

okay

so I keep dna

do i sell brainstorm for rebate

[winged vault]

yeah go for it

[stark karma]

jeez alright

thanks

[acoustic kettle]

If you are far above the scoring req

[dark cairn]

is it weird that i'm more worried about plasma deck gold stake than black deck gold stake

[stark karma]

its easy

first one I got

[winged vault]

sorry, I was so ante 39 pilled lol

[dark cairn]

most people say the 2x score requirements are hell

[winged vault]

I saw the money and everything and that's what I assumed lol

[acoustic kettle]

Not really

Maybe if you're not used to plasma's scoring

[dark cairn]

all i know is to prioritize chips

[potent tree]

ok what do i get rid of for showman? vamp is x2, constellation x2.6

[acoustic kettle]

Chips fall off quick

[dark cairn]

how do you get enough points in the midgame with mult then?

[humble gulch]

I mean, I won, but i didn't get any new golden stickers ):

[potent tree]

honestly i might get rid of burnt this time

my base mult is already pretty large.

[brisk bluff]

🤔

[acoustic kettle]

Chips

[winged vault]

imagine chicot

[lunar zealot]

Ello ello

[lunar zealot]

bye runner

[dark cairn]

alright then

i guess glass and steel is probably very op on plasma deck then right

[acoustic kettle]

I mean they are op on other decks

Why wouldn't they on plasma

[sudden river]

the rare big blind death for a baron build on ante 16

[winged vault]

ripperoni pepperoni

[acoustic kettle]

I still think plasma plays similar to other decks

[stark karma]

should I try to roll invisibles into blueprints or is it a waste of money?

2 in 5

ig

[winged vault]

how's your deck now?

[stark karma]

yeah I'll just farm money for showman

better but I still need dna

[winged vault]

showman assumes the card is in the shop queue

so, it may take a bit to actually find it

[acoustic kettle]

I mean dna is scoring anyway

[stark karma]

with enough money gen

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[stark karma]

I'll keep making money

[winged vault]

how's the money currently?

[stark karma]

I might showman for a blueprint when I'm at like 5K?

[winged vault]

also, are you copying DNA?

[stark karma]

1181$

[winged vault]

in your first hand

[stark karma]

yeah obv

[winged vault]

okay good

[stark karma]

dna helps with rebate too

[winged vault]

yeah

[stark karma]

I mean invis is a valid way to get a bp

[winged vault]

true

[stark karma]

it's just so much money down the drain for a 2 in 5

showman safer

[winged vault]

but it is longer

[stark karma]

yeah

[winged vault]

I forgot how many kings you need to actually go naneinf

[stark karma]

a lot more than I have

and I need steel too

should probably start pivoting to steel

and just keep gold in hand

[winged vault]

I think when I got naneinf for my ante 39 run, I had 23-25 steel kings?

[hasty harness]

no

u need more then that

[winged vault]

then again, I had three BPs

[hasty harness]

its 40 smthin

[winged vault]

and a brainstorm

and two mimes

[hasty harness]

why did u have two mimes lol

well if it works it works

[quaint stag]

foil caniogoat gg

[winged vault]

idk, I just picked it up

at the moment I had it, I was already at ante 32

so, rolling to find another BP or BS wouldn't be worth it cause I'm re-rolling for serpent anyway

[sudden river]

prob would have made it past ante 16 if I didn't sell my DNA for an invis which landed on baron

[winged vault]

and re-rerolling can make your money drop like the great depression

[hasty harness]

yeah with that context it makes sense

as long as u had 4 copiers + burglar

ur golden

lol

[winged vault]

Mine was a perkeo + observatory run

[hasty harness]

i see

[potent tree]

for picking up vamp and constellation ante 5 i got them scaled to x4 each almost. very surprising

just 4 stickers left then.

sixth sense, stone jimbo, luchador and dusk

[hasty harness]

gl :p

[stark karma]

rolled from the ox.... into the needle

[winged vault]

you do have chariot

so, you may have a chance

[stark karma]

I'll try lol

but I think I need the dna lol

[winged vault]

like make one of them steel, copy that, and see

[stark karma]

ig this is optimal

[winged vault]

noice

might go through

[stark karma]

no copy on mime or dna?

[winged vault]

I would copy DNA first to get more hand size

then copy mime

[heady narwhal]

first?

[stark karma]

I have one hand

[winged vault]

ah

[stark karma]

legit what are you talking about\

[winged vault]

sorry

big dumb

[stark karma]

so all on baron?

prob cooked

[winged vault]

hmm

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[stark karma]

should have rerolled the boss first and looked for luch

[winged vault]

let me think

what's your pluto hand level?

oh 95

[quaint stag]

i got fucking trib from this lmao

[winged vault]

go all in on baron

[stark karma]

there's no way you just considered my pluto level ToT

[winged vault]

you should get to e45

[pale wolf]

what did you sell

[quaint stag]

abstract

[tiny harbor]

[stark karma]

I did it jesus....

by one e

[winged vault]

e32? huh

I thought it would go e45

[tiny harbor]

i needed this thanks

[quaint stag]

i have never gotten past ante 12 the scaling gets way too hard past that

[pale wolf]

e32

[tiny harbor]

reminds me my beginner flush runs

[winged vault]

I'm too distracted lol

thanks for the correction

[quaint stag]

goated seed though

[tiny harbor]

try to play four/five of a kind/flush five or high card baron runs

[quaint stag]

yeah i could have optimised significantly better

[tiny harbor]

when i was playing bad hands like flush i was stuck at ante12 too

maybe try a funnier deck too

[quaint stag]

getting canio + planet xmult + negative pair xmult helped a lot though

[tiny harbor]

wait you play on red stake?

[quaint stag]

yeah that was my first red stake run

[tiny harbor]

if you want to reach higher antes play white stake

[obsidian oracle]

jokerless yay

[quaint stag]

never understood how this run is remotely possible gg though

[proper bronze]

good morning

[jagged valve]

Sup

[proper bronze]

deckbuilding and levelling

[winged vault]

mornin

I got to ante 39

[potent tree]

what the...

[obsidian oracle]

its not too bad
safe strat is to just build for 4oak/5oak, then econ for enough planet cards and enhancements

i had level 15 4oak + 2 glass and 5 steel even though i wasn't always maxing interest

[winged vault]

the curse of ante 32 was lifted

[potent tree]

negative andy stares into my soul

[winged vault]

clown killer

[night turret]

Thanks giving blessing me tonight

[proper bronze]

use this to beat it

trust

[quaint stag]

ahh i see i see

[night turret]

Me when I’m Batman

[quaint stag]

i lowkey need to invest more into deck fixing

i only know the basics of it from getting canio and erosion and using death/hanged man to fuel both

[tiny harbor]

bruh

try to make your deck only kings generaly, death helps greatly

invest in lucky and gold cards

seals are extremely important, try to get a red seal on smth close to king

6es are very important for sixth sense too

[quaint stag]

i see i see

[languid pecan]

JD56VWLR i played pretty bad

[tiny harbor]

always take card packs, if you get a good red seal pick it, otherwise if you get a blue or purple seal pick it

[languid pecan]

pivoted into straights but scoring fell off

[tiny harbor]

but don't bloat your deck with doodoo cards

it's the main newb mistake

especially for playing flush because they match your best color

[languid pecan]

the main newb mistake is playing flushes

[tiny harbor]

[night turret]

Unless it’s on the flush deck

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[dreamy creek]

i love bloodstone

[serene forge]

flushes are still bad past ante 2 on checkered

[tiny harbor]

+mult jokers are also useless for late game, you need at least xmult (but retrigger jokers are the key for large scores)

[serene forge]

usually you want to play flush five/flush house

[obsidian oracle]

flush scaling 🤡

[proper bronze]

hi

[languid pecan]

this only applies to endless

[dreamy creek]

full house...

[proper bronze]

fancy pants

[tiny harbor]

it was an endless game

[dreamy creek]

[quaint stag]

buh

[tiny harbor]

bro was asking how to get past ante12

[quaint stag]

i mean i was just saying in general i've never gotten past ante 12

i consider ante 12 to be like the end of my run

[tiny harbor]

they're very good for ante8 runs but for endless, you need to up your hands mult using planets

[serene forge]

plasma deck would fit better imo

[languid pecan]

retriggerable xMult is the easiest way to get past endless scaling

[dreamy creek]

lol

gotta make a plasma speach buble

[quaint stag]

so like basic naneinf strats of baron mime red seal

[tiny harbor]

it's the way

[obsidian oracle]

not necessarily

glass, sock, idol

[quaint stag]

i get it i think

[hybrid tendon]

[quaint stag]

oh yeah the idol would be useful if everything was kings

[proper bronze]

awesome

[dreamy creek]

[tiny harbor]

the 2 main naneinf ways are high card baron retrigger and flush five retrigger (using idol, triboulet...)

[hybrid tendon]

I know right

[languid pecan]

idol and trib doesnt naneinf

[tiny harbor]

i got a decent run with both of em and perkeo/telescope+

[languid pecan]

perkeo

[tiny harbor]

ofc

[quaint stag]

doesnt trib mult only apply to your hand and not held in hand

[languid pecan]

correct

[serene forge]

[languid pecan]

trib is mid for ante 8

[tiny harbor]

yes but it's 5 cards + retriggers

[quaint stag]

i mean it could probably naneinf?

[hybrid tendon]

[quaint stag]

i'm actually unsure i don't think it'd scale that far

[serene forge]

trib cannot naneinf

[tiny harbor]

do you know the perkeo planet card strategy?

[quaint stag]

i do

[hybrid tendon]

that's just perkeo naneinf then, not idol/trib

[tiny harbor]

yes

[hybrid tendon]

[tiny harbor]

non-perkeo naneinf looks unreachable for me, even on plasma deck
idk how many players can actually do it

[proper bronze]

awhh i need to go to school :(

[potent tree]

chat...do i risk losing my banner and getting 2 rtb

[hybrid tendon]

good luckk

[hybrid tendon]

ye

[tiny harbor]

why is rtb so popular

[hybrid tendon]

cos it's good

[potent tree]

it hit banner anyways

so we have basically a groker build

[hybrid tendon]

lmao

[proper bronze]

the best joker

[crystal field]

best scaling +mult for sure

❤️

[quaint stag]

is rtb that good? i thought it was op on like abandoned deck but i havent used it elsewhere

[crystal field]

it is superb on gold stake

[pale wolf]

it's very good

[crystal field]

omg cro doing another trick??

[quaint stag]

my go to +mult joker is supernova or redcard usually

or abstract if i get abstract

[crystal field]

supernova is good and so is red card

but supernova limits you to one hand type and red card is expensive

bus doesnt do either of those

[pale wolf]

red card isnt really expensive

bus stops you from getting hand money early on to be safe

[quaint stag]

idm being limited to one hand type tbh

[crystal field]

if ur winning rounds quickly no

[crystal field]

me either

[quaint stag]

red card with a decent money joker can scale pretty well

[pale wolf]

you die to the eye

[crystal field]

bus is pretty much on par with supernova red card and grimbo

grimbob is the worst because no discards

😔

[acoustic kettle]

Honestly
Bus
Grimbo
Supernova

[pale wolf]

i think red card is the best of those followed by bus, grimbo and supernova yea

[quaint stag]

i never understood grimbo tbh what makes him so strong

[pale wolf]

very consistent and reliable scaling

[acoustic kettle]

An easy to scale +mult is always strong

[crystal field]

scaling +mult is strong

[pale wolf]

guaranteed scaling, even

massively benefits pairs

[quaint stag]

but the drawback of no discards?

[crystal field]

you can still discard btw

[acoustic kettle]

You can still discard

[quaint stag]

yeah but you lose mult?

[crystal field]

it is a harsh drawback but not so bad if pairing up

[quaint stag]

im genuinely curious btw i've never been able to pull off green joker

[crystal field]

just discard minimally and its fine

[pale wolf]

midgame discarding is fine bc its only like a 30th of your scoring, its only early on that its a much bigger deal

[acoustic kettle]

You really don't discard that much in pair runs

[crystal field]

you dont need to

not that u dont so much as dont need to

[pale wolf]

discarding to dig is generally bad but discarding directly for value is good

[crystal field]

^

[pale wolf]

purple seals when they show up, etc

[crystal field]

discarding for gold cards blue seals

ye

1 blue seal is worth -1 on grimber

[pale wolf]

I do not dig with discards looking for blue seals when I'm playing Green Joker

[acoustic kettle]

I dig with hands

[pale wolf]

I'm losing score for the chance of getting the same score back basically

[acoustic kettle]

[pale wolf]

Rather just take the guaranteed scoring

[proper bronze]

green joker

[crystal field]

realistically its either -1 or +1

because you get the mult back after playing the card

[pale wolf]

The planet is only going to be worth + 1

[crystal field]

and then +1 from mercury

[pale wolf]

so it's net zero

[crystal field]

its

chips

[quaint stag]

balatro is fun as hell but damn this shit runs deep

[pale wolf]

i guess

[crystal field]

yeye

[pale wolf]

but you're not guaranteed to draw the blue seal

so you're on average losing score

[crystal field]

right its a gamble and I dont do it unless I know ill draw it

[quaint stag]

thats what i like about balatro though it's the most gamey game to exist if that makes sense

extremely easy to understand with a genuine plethora of underlying strategy beneath

[crystal field]

well its roguelite

very fun and good

i ised to not understand why people liked roguelikes and whatnot

[pale wolf]

it has been roguelike for the majority of my playthrough now handily

[crystal field]

now i get it

[crystal field]

arguing abt the difference between roguelike and roguelite is meaningless its a rogue game whtvr

idrc

[quaint stag]

honest to god i got the game on my phone because i needed something to play on the plane ride home from vacation

[crystal field]

meaningless to me*

[crystal field]

balatro is so helpful for unskippable cutscenes in life

[potent tree]

can i sack a banner for chad

[crystal field]

why would u need a chad

yes tho

[potent tree]

i do have a few luckies

[crystal field]

then yeah

[potent tree]

rtb hasn't scaled that much

[quaint stag]

i'll be playing it literally anytime i'm bored tbh

it's fun as fuck

[crystal field]

justifying the chad is pretty easy most of the time

[potent tree]

only thing is i gotta remember not to photochad

but if i get lucky cat i should be ok

[crystal field]

why not

[potent tree]

rtb

[crystal field]

ih right

lucky cat meowww :3

[twin lantern]

madness gotta be one of my favorite jokers

madness builds are fun bc they make no sense

[crystal field]

madness is good

[serene forge]

it is excellent on all decks

[crystal field]

she is like palm siberia

[serene forge]

not particularly better on abandoned

because crashing bus is a skill issue

[serene forge]

i don't think you do

becase its a poly banner

[twin lantern]

synergy!

[balmy ridge]

greetlings balatron chat

[twin lantern]

[balmy ridge]

i guess

[modest spade]

pog

[twin lantern]

i dont like your name @balmy ridge

abandoned deck hurt me

:(

[balmy ridge]

then you're uncultured

[lunar zealot]

Ello ello

[twin lantern]

im lowk ass at gold stake

i only play yellow deck

💔

[lunar zealot]

Oh...

[balmy ridge]

phone rings
yellow!!

😂

#facebook # memes #ifunny

hi

where people

[lunar zealot]

anyway,

[woven spire]

i know balatro, i know.

[lunar zealot]

Gentleman
i may not have a brain
but i have an idea

[crystal field]

???

oh

[twin lantern]

ts fire 🥹✌️

[crystal field]

i thought you were talking abt rental wrathful for some reason

[hybrid tendon]

I have no brain either dw

[balmy ridge]

swallow the balatropill

[crystal field]

ong

balawo

i should get on balatro rn

[tacit stream]

laughs in abandoned deck

[balmy ridge]

the best one

(no bias)

[crystal field]

abandoned deck fun

[covert quail]

bro 😭

[balmy ridge]

holy handsize

[crystal field]

WHYYYY

[obsidian oracle]

negative castle 💀

[balmy ridge]

you know you don't always have to take ecto right?

[crystal field]

no cancel is accurate

[balmy ridge]

castle is good

[covert quail]

yes

[crystal field]

we need to cancel castle

[covert quail]

but i wanted too

[crystal field]

fuck no its not

[covert quail]

castle is good

with the smudge joker

thing

[balmy ridge]

castle is good

[crystal field]

castle is so fuckin ass

[obsidian oracle]

smeared joker oops

[crystal field]

i dont care

+3chips per discarded card with 2 discards

thats like

9 chips around

how is it more shit than every other scaling +chips as an uncommon

shockingly ass

[covert quail]

i get like 15 chips a discard

thats pretty good

[night turret]

False but okay

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[night turret]

I finally got the 80 card achievement tho

Okay summit we get it, you have nitro

[terse vale]

[hybrid tendon]

CAVALRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[covert quail]

ggs 😭

[night turret]

Gotta play that four, only chance lol

[covert quail]

my flush is only levelled up

[hybrid tendon]

uma musume

yehhhh

[covert quail]

nvm we still hella chill

[languid pecan]

if you get above 16 chips per round then its better than square joker

and square jokers goated

[serene forge]

[crystal field]

this never happens

[terse vale]

flush is still poopoo
it only solves one problem of flushes

[serene forge]

me when i lie

[terse vale]

I MEAN ITS better

but like

[acoustic kettle]

Castle is good

[languid pecan]

you just need to discard 6 cards of a suit to be better than square

[terse vale]

[covert quail]

if i take ectoplasm ill have 2 handsize 🤔

[blazing plinth]

I am just missing Stuntman and my collection is done. Having no luck with hitting 100 mil points.

[wintry ice]

the average is 15 with an unfixed deck

have they used castle

[serene forge]

[crystal field]

ill lyk next time im forced to use it

if its better than square

[serene forge]

they used it for one round and instantly thought garbage of it

[white zodiac]

what is your math for this

[crystal field]

3 cards of a specific suit

[white zodiac]

why 3

[crystal field]

seems thats how it goes for me

even when i try and play towards the castle

[wintry ice]

how do you know that you'll only be able to scale it 3 times in 1 round outside of anecdotes

[shell dagger]

you aren’t using it right then

[wintry ice]

use hands first and then discards second

[serene forge]

rebate is garbage i never draw the numbers i need

[wintry ice]

should be simple

[crystal field]

i know

[wintry ice]

how are you only getting +9 then

[languid pecan]

Are you not able to draw a flush

[crystal field]

it was lik a bs example number

like ok at the high end

[terse vale]

[wintry ice]

me when i try to exagerate how bad a card i dislike is

[crystal field]

you get +30

[languid pecan]

It's actually really good high end

[crystal field]

thats 2 straights for the runner?

[wintry ice]

is that not like

[terse vale]

we not doing this

[wintry ice]

super good

[crystal field]

neither are we discarding 10 cards of the same suit

[languid pecan]

+30 is insane

[wintry ice]

unless your benchmark is wee for some reason

[crystal field]

so fuckin

whatever

[terse vale]

also yeah thats good

[heady narwhal]

what/s the topic of debate

[crystal field]

stop talking down to me like im stupid

[pale wolf]

+30 chippies per round is acceptable

[terse vale]

deckfixing brah

[wintry ice]

castle

[crystal field]

i hate castle

[heady narwhal]

wrong