🕹・game-discussion

[balmy ridge]

whats ur problem with it

[ripe iris]

with andy and runkard thats 6 discards, so by taking petro you gained 18 discards, but (assuming you took it right before the video starts) lost a total of 3*4+1=13 discards in the future. if you took it earlier than that, you wouldve lost more future discards. by this logic, you did in fact make the right choice, unless you took it over 5 rounds earlier, which is unlikely since you wouldve needed to take hieroglpyh ante 1 and then ante 2 petroglyph, unless under the circumstance that you took it instantly on entering ante 3 which isnt what id expect any rational human to do since you lose 2 more discards as opposed to taking it at the end of the ante.

[red thistle]

🪤

[balmy ridge]

free overstock is huge, tarot merchant is decent and planet merchant is the downside but it's a pretty good downside

[slate lance]

Its insanely hard to find good jokers cause all i get are fucking USELESS PLANETS AND TAROTS

[drowsy tapir]

Yeah I literally just took the petro before making that video

[balmy ridge]

you should try the jokerless challenge

[white zodiac]

downside is balanced with the concept of consumable blocking and seeing more shops and jokers overall

[compact halo]

Credit card in th- oh, cool.

[slate lance]

Thats white stake

Im on gold stake rn

On zodiac

[balmy ridge]

doc told me to win jokerless 3x back to back so i did

[ripe iris]

zodiac synergizes with so many jokers like campfire, constellation, fortune teller, and pretty much everything that has to do with buying stuff

[balmy ridge]

yeah it's not about that

[slate lance]

Yeah but getting those is scarce, it just makes the deck super narrow imo

[balmy ridge]

it's about properly learning the value of deckfixing and how to use tarots/planets optimally

[white zodiac]

where'd he say that

[red thistle]

HAAAAAANK, HANK! DON'T FALL FOR THE ROUND 1 RENTAL HANK!!

[ripe iris]

theres more that it synergizes with but im lazy

[balmy ridge]

on a video i dont remember which one

[compact halo]

“Useless planets and tarots” as if gold stake isn’t 100% possible jokerless

[compact halo]

Even on black deck, don’t underestimate me. Watch.

[balmy ridge]

he was streaming and someone asked how to get better and he reccomended that

[cloud sinew]

goker vs goker but better and betterer

[slate lance]

I know the value, im on my last 4 goldstakes

[white zodiac]

like he spoke to you directly or was it a call out challenge

[balmy ridge]

.

[slate lance]

It literally never givrs me any useful planets tho

[floral mural]

zodiac offers you more everything in general. more options in a roguelike is always good

[ripe iris]

its reminding me of that one 2016 meme of a yearbook that had "michael" and "the cooler michael' in it or smth like that

[red thistle]

Golker getting 24/7 smoke cause he's common. 💔

[floral mural]

like im not pretending its not

[balmy ridge]

is that meowscarada pfp

or no its the pre-evo

[slate lance]

Not if those options are awful

[balmy ridge]

floragato or whatever

i like that pokemon

[floral mural]

thats the one. have a link in my bio to the artist

my favourite pokemon

[cloud sinew]

possible on some seeds, yes. jokerless on gold stake is not a consistent strategy at all

[balmy ridge]

ever? of all time?

[white zodiac]

jirachi is a cool one i like

[balmy ridge]

victini is my fav ^_^

also OFFTOPICSLOP BAAAAD

[floral mural]

yeah but i love a lot of pokemon too. that ones just a personal attachment

[cloud sinew]

if those options are awful then the shop would be awful on every other deck

[compact halo]

Clearly, yeah, but my point wasn’t that jokers aren’t important, but that planets and tarots aren’t useless

[white zodiac]

they don't have a soda pop plush for that one sadly

[balmy ridge]

what's a soda pop plush

[red thistle]

Soda popinski?

[balmy ridge]

i like victini because black/white was when i got into pokemon originally and the victini movie was really good

[compact halo]

Lilo still like the only person that will call me out it is kind of based. Pretty much always starts a pretty good discussion too

[white zodiac]

it's like a collection brand subset for pokemon

[slate lance]

No

Ok tell me

[cloud sinew]

:3

[balmy ridge]

lilo is cool

[white zodiac]

you got the sitting cuties with their bottoms filled with beanies so they sit better

[slate lance]

How the hell do i survive when the game never actually gives me anything valuable on zodiac

[balmy ridge]

i'll look it up, never heard of it

[white zodiac]

poke plush is like the traditional brand of plushies

[cloud sinew]

what is zodiac giving you that isn't valuable at all?

[balmy ridge]

omg the are so cute

[floral mural]

or maybe you should take more bad stuff. that droll joker beats ante 1 for you. thay green joker is flat mult for the entire run

[white zodiac]

ikr

[red thistle]

I feel like this sentence has only been uttered once.

[spark kernel]

Oh no its violet vessel

[cloud sinew]

canio should be left of acrobat for max score because it's holo btw

[white zodiac]

clearly isn't in the pokemon discord server (I'm not in it)

[slate lance]

Pluto and mercury, i love playing pairs but bc of zodiacs shitty joker selection getting s good pair build is impossible

[balmy ridge]

ok bye balatro chat love u guys

[white zodiac]

you objectively see more jokers on zodiac

[shell dagger]

you get more jokers on zodiac though

[cloud sinew]

if zodiac is only giving you mercuries then you're winning

[shell dagger]

The overstock

[slate lance]

No u dont because of tarot merchant and planet mercuant

[cloud sinew]

also you see more jokers per shop on average, it's mathematically proven

[cloud sinew]

hold on

[shell dagger]

Prove it with maths

Or I don’t believe you

[cloud sinew]

here you go

[red thistle]

Hyper optimisation my beloved.

[slate lance]

Im speaking from experience rn

[spark kernel]

Magic deck win

[shell dagger]

I’d rather speak from values in the code

[red thistle]

How many times did you play it.

[slate lance]

Im on gold stake rn

[white zodiac]

im speaking from game code and probability

[slate lance]

Ive beej playing all day

[shell dagger]

no you havent

[red thistle]

So like how many tries.

[slate lance]

I dont care about the game.code if its not reflecting in my current run

[shell dagger]

you had to sleep and eat surely

[white zodiac]

in case someone replies with it's just an opinion or some bullcrap

[slate lance]

Idk dude 😭

[slate lance]

Of course

I took breaks

[white zodiac]

@lunar zealot

[shell dagger]

so u weren’t playing all day

[compact halo]

Btw

[slate lance]

Idk ive been on zodiac like 5 hours

[slate lance]

All dsy i mean its my biggest activity today

I went from white stake to gold rn

[white zodiac]

u good man 💔

[red thistle]

Real balala players play balala even in their temporary death.

[shell dagger]

you would’ve only seen 90% of the jokers you saw if you played on another deck

so it would’ve been even more miserable

[cloud sinew]

You're seeing more planets/tarots relative to jokers which makes you think you see less jokers. you aren't comparing it per roll, you're comparing the proportion of tarots/planets to jokers subconsciously

[slate lance]

No 😭

[red thistle]

Damn you're so good.

[shell dagger]

but because you heard somewhere that zodiac reduces joker amounts then you created a bias in your head

so now you complain here?

[slate lance]

Is that nott he same thing

[cosmic sun]

obelisk where you run out of everything

[nova junco]

Solution to this argument: with zodiac you can't get overstock again so you still can't get as many jokers

[shell dagger]

overstock +

[nova junco]

Also HIIII

[cloud sinew]

Nope. per roll you're seeing more jokers, but you will see more planets/tarots relative to jokers than on other decks

[cloud sinew]

haiiiii

[white zodiac]

oddly familiar to one of my obelisk runs

[red thistle]

Goodnight nerds.

[floral mural]

you have 3 slots in the shop for items and thus more jokers are ensured. more of everything else also appears tho

[brave goblet]

that he insists he can't see more jokers just means he's broke

[floral mural]

the third slot is what makes zodiac so good

[white zodiac]

gn streaks

[compact halo]

I love shoot the moon almost as much as I love eating fucking fibre optic cables!!!!!!!!!

[brave goblet]

can't wait for her to bottomdeck when you need her most

[slate lance]

Ok wait i got a burglar vagabond

This is peak

[cloud sinew]

I've done the math for a "super zodiac" deck where you have tycoon vouchers and overstock+ and it's way worse for jokers per roll (~0.95 per roll Vs ~1.42 at base and 1.53 on zodiac) but it's still fun cause you get so many tarots and planets per shop

[shell dagger]

yeah u just build your own deck

[cloud sinew]

also in the mid-late game tarots and planets are most of what you want because of how unlikely jokers are to work for your build the later you go

[white zodiac]

vagabond lite

[shell dagger]

tycoon my behated

[floral mural]

unironically my favourite joker up there with yorick and madness but yorick is a legendary so

[brave goblet]

tarot and planet haters should play that jokers only custom challenge

[slate lance]

Still it annoys me so much cause it seriously seems i nevwr get anything that synergises with my current build

[white zodiac]

joker value usually settles once you get all the pieces. consumables have value throughout the entire run

[heady narwhal]

that usually means you need more money

[white zodiac]

pretty sure this is either recency confirmation bias or some flaw in econ optimization

[shell dagger]

broaden your options

[slate lance]

Im not a tarot and planet hater 😓

[heady narwhal]

zodiac gives you more money

[obsidian lotus]

How am I supposed to get such a score 💀

[floral mural]

synergies are terrible they dont win you runs

[compact halo]

Plant

[brave goblet]

that just means you don't have enough money

[slate lance]

Its hard when all i get is shit like superposition on a flush build

[shell dagger]

repeated on-score xmult like photo, but with retriggers

[floral mural]

dont actively seek out synergies beyond flat mult chips and xmult

[shell dagger]

a flush build

[white zodiac]

im talking broad worst

[shell dagger]

what led you to go for a flush build

[obsidian lotus]

so im cooked

[heady narwhal]

i've gotten midas vampire twice and i've lost in ante 5 both times. this is mostly skissue but i think it's at least somewhat interesting information

[shell dagger]

ye basically

[compact halo]

By making sure the red number and the blue number when put together will equal that number or higher I thinks

[brave goblet]

that's probably casue you had no chips lol

[slate lance]

I dont usually go for flush builds

[spark kernel]

How hard is nebula deck

[floral mural]

its genuinely a big way to lose if you never aim for non synergies

[vocal quartz]

it’s getting a little wacky

[obsidian lotus]

hahahah thanks ill try that

[heady narwhal]

i think i had no +mult

[slate lance]

Im making an example

[vocal quartz]

not that good, but definitely fun

[white zodiac]

another useless interesting information about vamp

vamp was in my top 4 most used jokers on black deck at one point 💔

[spark kernel]

How hard is nebula deck

[compact halo]

My vampire Midas always die from now +mult

[brave goblet]

not very, just really boring

[white zodiac]

somewhere in the bottom 5

[floral mural]

nebula kills the value of the emperor and high priestess and ill never stop falling for it

[white zodiac]

the upsides of getting telescope value is very inconsistent early game

[cloud sinew]

bottom 5, also it's one of the least fun generally (it's the least fun imo as well)

[brave goblet]

telescope when no celestial packs appear

[compact halo]

Ermmmm, I can explain

[heady narwhal]

imo it's not that hard to win any given run but it saps your motivation to play balala

like erratic deck

[white zodiac]

downsides vary from any form of consumable gen like blue seals and bringing some into the blinds

[brave goblet]

nebula should just give you a negative astronomer to start with lol

[floral mural]

"2 random tarots for 3 dollars? sounds good i only lose 1 dollar max" he says before remembering hes playing nebula deck

[heady narwhal]

no four fingers in top 10 smh

[eternal anchor]

that's challenge deck behavior

[cosmic sun]

mr krabs be like me nebular

[white zodiac]

nebula could remove the restriction and add observatory as a change for the better

[compact halo]

[torn arrow]

Purple stake ruined the stake climb for me

I hate it it feels just too drastic

I just want my erratic deck man

Smh

[brave goblet]

observatory is funnily enough worse on nebula

[compact halo]

Wdym

[white zodiac]

mhm

[cloud sinew]

this video is very insightful. I understood basically all of what he said in this video already, but it let me word it in a way that I've never been able to. https://youtu.be/CdjAitApPbg?si=wmTPZGfUIqJv4K-I

[eternal anchor]

It is

[brave goblet]

magic and zodiac fit the nebula planet theme better than nebula itself does, ironically

[white zodiac]

despite being a "fun" voucher too lmao

[torn arrow]

It scales too fast

I could deal with the other scaling blinds but not this one for some reason

[heady narwhal]

i think the big problem with nebula deck is that telescope makes the game boring

[compact halo]

The games supposed to get harder!

[brave goblet]

No, it just doesn't give you any actual benefits cause there's no guarantee you see celestial packs

[heady narwhal]

blue seals are overpowered but at least you get to interact with deckfixing and such

[compact halo]

If it was easy there’d be no incentive!

[white zodiac]

haven't watched it yet

[cloud sinew]

also -1 consumable slots is a way bigger downside than a lot of people seem to think it is

[white zodiac]

worth the watch?

[shell dagger]

isn’t that an old one

[cloud sinew]

Oop wrong reply

[cloud sinew]

this is for you @heady narwhal

[compact halo]

I was talking to the purple stake too hard fella

[compact halo]

Oop

Megalul

[heady narwhal]

i was more talking about it from the design standpoint

[torn arrow]

I know that

But I just feel like I can't get a build before it's out scaled me

[arctic lake]

Could someone roast me please, I just lost on a white stake nebula deck with baron and a good pair build

[compact halo]

You can! And you will!

[heady narwhal]

telescope is boring so if there's going to be a downside it has to make the game less boring

[cloud sinew]

ya

[floral mural]

tarot blocking has given me boons for remembering to do it and nebula kills that

which is annoying

[compact halo]

So so true

[torn arrow]

I feel like the only times I've won on purple stake is just pure luck

Most of this game is luck 💔

I liked black stake more 💔💔

[white zodiac]

-1 consumable and telescope is asking you to restrict your strategy options for a roguelike game of all things

[cloud sinew]

nebula deck feels so bad to play, I'm not going to touch nebula unless I have to (I.e for C+) until it gets fixed

[torn arrow]

Blue stake doesn't help either

[compact halo]

Uh oh. They said the thing.

[brave goblet]

magic deck just gives you a voucher and two consumables at the start lmao

[eternal anchor]

When I was still on my C+ journey I stayed up till 3-4 AM trying to win Nebula Gold 💔

[white zodiac]

it takes some getting used to

[cloud sinew]

magic deck my beloved

[heady narwhal]

play pairs

[brave goblet]

ngl crystal ball at the start is actually kinda busted, I keep forgetting it has that

[torn arrow]

Aren't they like

Low scoring

[cloud sinew]

crystal ball is awesome and starting with two fools makes the early game easy if you get almost any tarot

[torn arrow]

You'd rather two pairs or something

[heady narwhal]

doesn't matter because literally every other part of the game favors pairs

[compact halo]

Yes! But there are jokers!

[brave goblet]

they won't be low scoring for long if you generate a billion mercuries

[torn arrow]

That require luck to be seen no way..

💔💔💔💔

[compact halo]

Imagine a hand that was similar to two pair, but half the size!

[brave goblet]

not to mention scaling jokers that want you to scale by hands played

[compact halo]

This game is not luck based

[white zodiac]

most of the jokers in the game have good synergies with pairs

[torn arrow]

Are we sure

[opal delta]

hmmmm

[brave goblet]

doc got 60+ win streak on gold with random decks, it's most assuredly not luck based

[heady narwhal]

• scaling jokers favor pairs because you want to reliably play 4 scoring hands
• held in hand effects esp. blue seals favor pairs because you can dig more and hold more cards
• a lot of conditional xmults like card sharp and blackboard favor pairs because you can afford to play around their conditions when you aren't also looking for a big hand
• most boss blinds favor pairs because they focus on making hands harder to draw (which doesn't matter that much on pairs)

[brave goblet]

we're just too smoothbrained to decide appropriately

[white zodiac]

we wouldnt have win streaks barring in the high 60s or 90s if it wasnt primarily luck based for winning

[torn arrow]

It's not luck based if your like really good at the game

Otherwise yea it's luck based

[white zodiac]

the game is rng based but winning is purely up to skill and decision making

[brave goblet]

is any game truly skill based if you're unskilled?

truly a philosophical question for the ages

[torn arrow]

I have 86 hours in this game as of speaking

It feels luck based even so

Like how am I supposed to account for just

A bad draw?

[heady narwhal]

play pairs

[torn arrow]

"avoid the crit" ahh 😭😭💔

[brave goblet]

Someone needs to attend balatro university

[white zodiac]

I have a thousand roaming

[eternal anchor]

Is there a better way to get gold sticker on this than holding R and hoping that Ante 1 Small Blind has Rare Tag?

[glad sequoia]

My massive wee

[torn arrow]

💔 like just overall or if I don't have any hand to play?

Like is this a early game thing or

[heady narwhal]

i play pairs 80% of the time

[compact halo]

Fortunately, the root of your issues seems to have been answered by yourself!

[white zodiac]

salvaging or learning from failure

[heady narwhal]

ante 1 and 2 you want to play big hands but as soon as you can afford not to it's time to start spamming

[compact halo]

Rng helps, but winning does not require it

[brave goblet]

(couldn't draw a pair)

[torn arrow]

As soon as I beat orange-gold stake once

Instant switch back to black stake brah

[compact halo]

Why

[heady narwhal]

if you really don't get any scaling jokers, blue seals, or anything, you can try 3oak, 4oak, or straights instead

[torn arrow]

I like black stake

[eternal anchor]

this run was dead in the water much earlier lmao

[torn arrow]

It's the perfect difficulty for me

[heady narwhal]

anything else i need to have a very specific reason to play

[glad sequoia]

Crippling debt

[compact halo]

Oh black stake. I thought you said deck, my mistake

[torn arrow]

It's like ror2

Im probably not gonna play E8 after I wrap it up with every character

[torn arrow]

Nw

[compact halo]

I’m honestly 95% of the time playing gold stake black deck. Very skill-strengthening

[brave goblet]

I literally wasn't buying anything that whole run, it was just praying space man (who was unironically popping) would level up my hands, and just farming the bus and madness

[tepid perch]

honestly I think black deck is worst just because of the hard early game

[clear mulch]

thats why you play high card

[white zodiac]

to each their own but you cannot say that from existing runs that rng makes a significant difference between winning and losing a run on average gs

[brave goblet]

how dare you

[fervent wolf]

Do I take invis???

[brave goblet]

anti pair blasphemy

[pale wolf]

careful play and managing risk

[brave goblet]

if you fix your deck enough, you can draw literally exactly what you want

[white zodiac]

late game it's hard to utilize the econ and score scaling snowball existing from said early game too

[fallen sun]

Decent jokers for round 2

[pale wolf]

oops all chips

[torn arrow]

Ok with the "play pairs" thing

Is it like literally just play every hand a pair

Or is it a joker thing idk bro

I just keep getting two pairs

[fervent wolf]

I wouldn't right, what to even sell

[pale wolf]

wait thats holo

[brave goblet]

red deck thinking it's plasma

[clear mulch]

holographic

[bronze linden]

double skip round 2 ?

[slate lance]

+54 fortune and +76 erosion

🤤

[eternal anchor]

Bump.

[clear mulch]

pokes at you, not knoeing the answer

[glad sequoia]

Yeah definitely a strong enough build to make it through. Looked a little rough though lol

[white zodiac]

there's a reasonable explanation why a majority of the jokers in my most used stats are unconditional scoring

[pale wolf]

play anaglyph and taking later rare tags if they appear

[brave goblet]

I was extremely dependent on drawing a pair which should've been easy but alas

[fallen sun]

Mega buffoon 1st shop, mega buffoon tag and blueprint just in shop

[brave goblet]

I mean that was like a 1 in a million chance so it's not like pairs are unreliable lol

[eternal anchor]

Huh. Clever

[pale wolf]

focusing more on econ than anything else

[fallen sun]

The luck is with me now

[white zodiac]

per usual for gs stickering

[eternal anchor]

Not sure if I like that idea more than just taking an econ tag

[brave goblet]

death in ante 4

it is foretold

(that's not possible cause it's white stake lol)

[deft panther]

Balltro!

[unborn cliff]

dual poly hack gambit

[torn arrow]

I don't get what the play pairs thing means

Is it just literally every time or is it with jokers

Idk anymore

[brave goblet]

he's lying to you, play flushes

everyone plays flushes

[pale wolf]

it certainly is a higher chance of seeing the invisible with rare tags rather than econ tags but if it's late enough and you're not confident you will see a rare tag then it's probably worth taking the money skip instead

[brave goblet]

flushes scale the same as pairs but you can play five cards. Five cards!

[tepid perch]

how do yall feel about 6th sense

[pale wolf]

cool

[cloud sinew]

6th Sense is incredible

[floral mural]

pairs are compatible to work with many many jokers to the point findint a joker for them is easy. and their small easy to draw nature makes them spammable so every hand can score

[eternal anchor]

It's kinda nice if you like to pretend you have one hand less than you actually do

[white zodiac]

hand mult scalers are pretty good for pairs as early as r2 where 4 pairs is enough to just kill the big blind. the mult scalers are also pretty lenient for the conditions you have to follow to scale them and still be useful throughout the entirety of the run

[deft panther]

I have opinions on jokers in Balatro

[pale wolf]

6th sense has 2 beneficial effects

[cloud sinew]

early game black deck debt strat, ofc

[brave goblet]

even if you don't get any good spectrals with sixth sense, at least you got rid of all your 6s

[white zodiac]

love it

[brave goblet]

that's at least -4 cards

[floral mural]

additionally they work well with blue seals which are another broken thing in the game

[eternal anchor]

Most of the time I find Sixth Sense it doesn't seamlessly slot into my build

[pale wolf]

its like trading card and immolate
you get massively rewarded for card removal

[white zodiac]

u were the one that wanted to do the black deck c++ right I forgor

[brave goblet]

You don't usually keep sixth sense to build around it, you just burn some sixes and sometimes get a cool spectral as a bonus

[white zodiac]

trading card if it was balanced

[pale wolf]

why does tcard destroy a card 😭

[deft panther]

Why shouldn't it

[pale wolf]

("selling" the card flavor)

[brave goblet]

What actually happened was you traded away your card

But since it's gone from your deck, it gets "destroyed"

[white zodiac]

for 3 bucks and a lighter

[hushed zealot]

First time deck building how did I do?

[pale wolf]

but imagine you sell a card to somebody and they just rip it to shreds moments after paying you

[deft panther]

Trading Card is my favorite joker

[brave goblet]

pretty good

It'd be better if all your queens were gold

[white zodiac]

stm 👅

with blue seals

[north schooner]

Can't believe I pulled this one off

[eternal anchor]

Imagine you're playing blue stake+ and are running Trading Card with Petroglyph 🥹

[pale wolf]

I approve of stm and mime but not throwback :)

[hushed zealot]

Tbh I don't really have much else to put there I haven't even got many spectral packs

[clear mulch]

its called gay

[verbal mural]

Can anyone send me a naninf crash fixer

[unborn cliff]

is calles gay

[white zodiac]

when it exists

[clear mulch]

i ts

its

[unborn cliff]

i ts

[clear mulch]

23:06

[unborn cliff]

5:06

[clear mulch]

im sleepy

[fervent wolf]

Hiker?

[verbal mural]

Actually it's 5:06

[unborn cliff]

oh ok thank you

[clear mulch]

why are you playing balatro at 5 am

[verbal mural]

Also that Naninf crash fixer

[clear mulch]

okay

[north schooner]

let's play crippling gambling addiction or insomnia

[unborn cliff]

its 17:08 actually 🤓

[clear mulch]

i alreayd do that

[clear mulch]

military time is better yeah

[pale wolf]

watches you not stone the foil and use chad on it to instantly win

[unborn cliff]

my mom uses military time for no reason

[clear mulch]

shes the goat

[unborn cliff]

true but not for that reason

[deft panther]

If you're not going through your discards and dipping into your hands to dig for a Royal Flush every single round then you're not playing with a winner's mentality

[north schooner]

ooh that's right, I only saw that as a purple seal 😂

[cloud sinew]

early game black deck debt strat, ofc

[pale wolf]

ggs

[north schooner]

shout out to the rental spritzer in ante 7/8

[unborn cliff]

this beat ante 8 btw

[white zodiac]

i feel like you’ve sent this before

[unreal island]

this is the definition of synergy

[unborn cliff]

this run is from yesterday

[white zodiac]

yeah

[unborn cliff]

worst synergy of all time

didnt even take photo

this run was also just fun and games because i sold ancient joker for pareidolia

[unborn cliff]

which was in vain because i sold pareidolia for leaf anyways

[pale wolf]

interesting erratic roll

stm 🤞

[spring scroll]

This is just a seeded run but for my learning sake, what does baron replace here, if anything?
Maybe i should have just stuck with high card 🤣

[pale wolf]

🖕

[delicate tide]

hey it gave you a stm

!

[pale wolf]

Not even worth opening the pack

this is why i didnt autobuy the eternal riff raff in shop

i can make that groker work

[slate lance]

Just did zodiac goldstake

Holy shit that was close, i had to play 2 glass cards with 2 steel cards (with seltzer on)

[vale mist]

what does your deck look like?

[pale wolf]

this is a beautiful shop

[spring scroll]

35 red seal steel king

[twin lantern]

Balatro not being apart of the steam Black Friday is sad

[vale mist]

my my ok

[spring scroll]

Yeah it was a nutty seed, just felt like having fun instead of pulling my hair out at gold stake stuff

[coarse silo]

Welp, looks like we’re ja-

[pale wolf]

insane immolate

[spring scroll]

But I also realised im incredibly clueless

[swift tundra]

Do you own it at all?

[pale wolf]

🦓

[vale mist]

very real

[twin lantern]

Yeah

I was gonna gift it to my friend if it was on sale

[vale mist]

well to figure out what's best you gotta whip out the calc..

[swift tundra]

Ok very good, lol I was going to gift it to YOU if you didn't own it at all

It will probably be included in the winter sale I'm sure

[vale mist]

if you copied the baron 3 times that would be 4 instances of x1.5 over 2 triggers so x1.5^8 = x25, the effect of 5 kings combined is x25^5 = x9.7 million

currently the first king gets 4 instances of x2 over 4 triggers so x2^16, the four kings after each get 3 instances of x2 over 2 triggers so x2^6, all combined is x2^16 * x2^6^4 = x2^40 = x1.01 trillion

[vocal quartz]

found my beautiful bloodstone, we sell swash here, correct?

[eternal anchor]

How long have you had that egg for?

[vocal quartz]

it’s $37 lmao

[eternal anchor]

Bloodstone is too terrible to replace a +50 Mult Swash

[vale mist]

ok the next question would be your hand size

cuz I was just comparing 5 kings against 5 kings but baron affects more than 5 presumably

[vocal quartz]

true but sad

[spring scroll]

Er i think standard? As I think i took a ecto but also at least one hand size voucher

[vale mist]

hmm okok

[vocal quartz]

what do i sell for cavendish

[faint birch]

everything but egg

[robust lance]

Tribe

[faint birch]

especially the negative

oh btw what's the base mult of your typical hand

still lv1?

[vale mist]

btw when I said "x25^5" it was actually more like x25.63^5, so
6 kings left in hand would be x25.63^6 = x283m,
7 kings left in hand would be x25.63^7 = x7.2b,
8 kings left in hand would be x25.63^8 = x186b

[eternal anchor]

sell The Tribe, no question

[vocal quartz]

it’s leveled, but still not great at 18

[vale mist]

it's looking like the current setup is still better lol

[spring scroll]

appreciate the input

[faint birch]

then tribe. straight upgrade.

[vocal quartz]

sick

[spring scroll]

I shoulda planned around getting baron and stuck with high card 🤣

[faint birch]

what is the egg btw

[spring scroll]

Though I guess... whats stopping me staying with high card now

[robust lance]

It’s actually just a normal upgrade because this build isn’t a straight build

[faint birch]

is it all the value or nah

[prime valve]

You didnt answered :(

[spring scroll]

Maybe I'll fk around with calc myself

[faint birch]

spill your drink

[robust lance]

You are my drink

[vale mist]

finds a mime later... 🫠

but yee yw

[faint birch]

🤨

[robust lance]

You’re orange juice

[faint birch]

im uncomfortable

[robust lance]

This is you (orange juice)

[prime valve]

Block and Ignore it.

[faint birch]

this isnt a joke i don't like this.

[eternal anchor]

awkward!

[coarse silo]

This whole challenge thing is easy

[robust lance]

Ok sorry

[faint birch]

probably yeah

[hasty harness]

take idol and go next

trust

[prime valve]

Not probably but surely

[faint birch]

now i 100% i ran through each deck once and

wow fuck black deck

it's the only one i lost on

i forgot how bad it is

i've only won on it 8 times and never touched it again

[robust lance]

How do you only lose on one (1) deck 💔 💔 💔

[prime valve]

Yeah thats why im going to gold stake it 2nd time

[faint birch]

it's fun when you get midway but the start is so rough

esp with rentals everywhere

[lunar zealot]

that's its whole gimmick

[faint birch]

yes kami i know kami

[prime valve]

Definitely

[lunar zealot]

i was gonna say more but alright

[faint birch]

its just a bitching session

[robust lance]

Say it anyways I wanna hear it

[ripe iris]

black deck is definitely hard but the difficulty is why its honestly one of my fav decks

[prime valve]

Too tired to read I need to sleep. Goodnight yall

[brisk yarrow]

is this good enough for blue stake blue deck?

[brisk yarrow]

i have seed money too.. holy flip

[jagged valve]

Builds I never got to do:

• Madness + Eternals
• Vampire + Midas
• Perkeo Observatory (Unseeded)

🫩🫩

[ripe iris]

not gonna be enough, only one xmult. you need 2 for vessel

[robust lance]

PLEASE watch out for the bed bugs

[faint birch]

i gotta bitch anyway it just doesnt let me get to the state i like playing balatro the most in, a kinda vibey flowstate way. i can plan and think but i dont wanna

[lunar zealot]

it fails to commit to its actual purpose because 9 times out of 10 to survive early game black deck you end up taking a mediocre eternal foil droll joker or something and end up not even able to make use of your +1 joker slot

[brisk yarrow]

suggestions?

[jagged valve]

Is Madness that good

[ripe iris]

joke your good since its below purple

and yorick is extremely powerful

[prime valve]

Thats alright they bed bugs are scared of me

[brisk yarrow]

I GOT 8 BALL AND SWAPPED DROLL JOKER 😭 HOLY TAROT CARDS

[robust lance]

Ah, carry on then

[faint birch]

rn the antidepressants demand i stop thinking and game in a haze in my bed

so FUCK thinking

and doing MATH

lets go gambling

[ripe iris]

dont use antidepressants just stop being depressed

[prime valve]

Thats not that bad i have something worser

Yeah I hate technical drawing

[faint birch]

this is a very funny joke that nobody has ever said before and everyone is laughing and thinks better of you

[vale mist]

once you get past the early game the extra joker slot is fun to work with

[lunar zealot]

i should have hopped on painkillers before leaving the house

[ripe iris]

i think this is sarcasm

[lunar zealot]

IF I HAD ANY

#fifththworldproblems

[faint birch]

i'm serious i think you should always say something like this to people who mention antidepressants and lower your guard in their presence and keep your hands occupied maybe stick them in your pockets

[vale mist]

me when seeded negative perkeo run

[ripe iris]

yeah ill make sure to do that

im sure this wont lead to any physical violence

[lunar zealot]

You should also tell women to smile more

[faint birch]

we love that

[ripe iris]

but seriously if you are depressed antidepressants are usually a temporary solution and its generally better to address the root of the issue

[lunar zealot]

i think she knows that

[faint birch]

please tell me so much more about my own situation and what's best in it

[lunar zealot]

and i don't think it's right to stick your nose in things that aren't your business

[ripe iris]

just tryna help out

[faint birch]

don't?

[ripe iris]

ok then

jeez

[lunar zealot]

(even if they can be a bit condescending about it)

[faint birch]

like unless you're good at it. don't

[lunar zealot]

Anyway back to balatro

[prime valve]

This is going the bad way. Everything is alright.

[lunar zealot]

I see no point in zany and wily joker

[ripe iris]

ok well thanks for making me feel bad about the one thing i think i can do anymore

[sinful prairie]

Bruh

[lunar zealot]

remove them from the game entirely

and add 2 new page 1 jokers

[faint birch]

you're welcome

[ripe iris]

add a hc joker insteade

[white zodiac]

told you not to speak for other when they can do it on their own if needed a couple hours ago

[ripe iris]

well i dont have to listen to your advice just as much as she has to listen to mine

[lunar zealot]

page 1 jokers incentivize you to play that hand early for early game scoring

yet who the hell plays xoak early

[faint birch]

sweet jesus fucking christ dude

[lunar zealot]

certainly not anyone playing on any deck besides abandoned and painted

[faint birch]

incredible

[lunar zealot]

And sometimes erratic

[sinful prairie]

The best thing you can do when someone DOESN'T EXPLICITLY ASK FOR HELP is to wish them well and move on... now MOVE ON. This is the Balatro Server...

[faint birch]

painted is pretty cool

[lunar zealot]

at least you can reliably play straights/flushes/two pair

[faint birch]

i love painted

[prime valve]

Erratic decks are fun for xoak builds

[lunar zealot]

Painted is great

[sinful prairie]

Painted is so good idk why people hate on it so much

[slate lance]

Hello

[sinful prairie]

LMAO

[slate lance]

Im sorry i didnt get to see ur message

[slate lance]

Awhat

[faint birch]

painted plus in hands? damn

fucke yeah

[sinful prairie]

Your display name while we're talking about the deck

[terse vale]

favorite “challenge” deck on gold stake

[lunar zealot]

But back to what i was talking about

[slate lance]

Its real ok

[white zodiac]

paint has some quirky fun for the difficulty it brings

[ripe iris]

lots of people want/need help but dont explicitly ask for it. if i can help someone out who needs it im going to do that even if it can make me look like a fool and nosy sometimes

[lunar zealot]

zany and wily are by far the most useless page 1 jokers

[spark kernel]

I won with nebula deck

[slate lance]

Wait yall were talkijg abt painted

[sinful prairie]

BALATRO SERVER I LOVE TALKING ABOUT BALATRO

[prime valve]

Yep they were

[slate lance]

Btw everyone what deck should i goldstake next
Blue red or abandoned

[slate lance]

Ah okay then

Hoes ur day been tho?

Hoes

HOWS

[white zodiac]

abandoned is pretty fun

[sinful prairie]

Based opinion

[ripe iris]

id reccomend blue just for an easy gold stake

[white zodiac]

monolith probably

[prime valve]

Its alright I was going to sleep but I cant because I want to do last raid on Arena or one chess game before sleep. Anyways how are you doing?

[swift tundra]

I'm very much looking forward to getting to painted deck on new profile. I almost always pick up juggler these days when I have an available slot, so thinking painted deck will be enjoyable having that benefit from the start

[slate lance]

I'll do blue then since its the least expanded (only up to red rn, the others are green)

I cant wait for c+

[white zodiac]

blue yellow you’re technically more restricted to one hand type in some sense

[faint birch]

if you want to actually help i was horribly injured in a flood and lost everything i owned. now i'm physically recovering, trying to keep myself fed and staving off the bad thoughts due to circumstance. i'm in waiting for therapy on my healthcare and the antidepressants are being used as a stopgap, so the thing i do actually fucking need here is money to not die.

[slate lance]

Im doing good too, i did zodiac deck goldstake today which was nice

[faint birch]

im very tired of people trying to help me with cheap words as if i dont know already

yours just irks me because it was so poorly phrased

now anyway back to balatro

let's never speak of this again

[ripe iris]

yeah

good idea

[white zodiac]

not the first time i’ve heard this

[lunar zealot]

cough cough

Back to zany and wily

[prime valve]

Tired and nervous I was doing project on multisim and had feeling of breaking the laptop in half and throwing it out of window. And also was doing technical drawing on A2 paper took me 2 hours and im not even finished with the task.

[white zodiac]

kami how was sleeping

[faint birch]

somehow worse than the previous topic

[lunar zealot]

i don't think i've ever used this for a triple digit number of rounds

[prime valve]

Thats nice :) I did green deck on gold today also

[white zodiac]

oh

[lunar zealot]

every joker has its niche

hell i've gotten a gold stake baron run

so really the only limit is your own skill

[slate lance]

Hell yeah

I love green

[ripe iris]

everyone knows this is impossible and you just get c++ after doing all the other ones

[white zodiac]

i’m still waiting on a genuine baron run where it legitimately helped me like fist baron or something

[lunar zealot]

all i hear is myeh myeh myeh i got a skill issue myeh myeh myeh

[slate lance]

Whats multisism tho? And im so sorry its going kinda bad today 😭

[faint birch]

even hiker?

[sinful prairie]

Heavily agree on this one

[ripe iris]

i was joking

[lunar zealot]

Unironically yes

[faint birch]

(i like hiker)

[lunar zealot]

it's good with retriggers and a small deck

[white zodiac]

hiker is one of the cooler mid jokers

[faint birch]

i like to spam dna with hiker

it's fun

esp with chad

[lunar zealot]

It's like if wee was on any rank and mid

[swift tundra]

I'm still looking for the setup where hiker can shine, this seems promising

[ripe iris]

hikers not a bad joker or anything but i dislike it

[white zodiac]

that interaction is weird cause each copy has a different amount of chips

[lunar zealot]

so hiker is a bit niche but it does have scenarios where it shines

pop quiz what is hiker's best quality

[grave magnet]

hey, whats the easiest way to get a royal flush?

[faint birch]

it is insanely weird cos now you're mousing over each card to check lol

[white zodiac]

in terms of chip scalers it’s the worst of the scaling chips

[lunar zealot]

Checkered or red

[ripe iris]

1.5x from baseball

[lunar zealot]

Correct answer

[sinful prairie]

*Coughs* it's in Kami's name

[white zodiac]

zebra insisted on there being hiker footprints to highlight how many times the card has been hiked on

[ripe iris]

that would instantly make the game 10x better

[white zodiac]

ofc

[ripe iris]

or at least some visual indicator for the hiked chips

[lunar zealot]

On a serious note any uncommon joker no matter how esoteric has a niche simply by virtue of being uncommon

[prime valve]

A program for electrotechnics its simulation of circuit which you can add there voltmeter, ammeter, multimeter and more and with parameter sweep you can add the measurements of resistors and it will give you the answers/ measurements of what you wanted.

[ripe iris]

i can understand looking at jokers for their specific stats, but you shouild be able to tell everything about a playing card just from a look

[lunar zealot]

which only exemplifies my point that every joker does have a niche

[ripe iris]

what is jimbos niche then

[white zodiac]

2 bucks

[ripe iris]

hike it too much and the whole thing just turns blue

[lunar zealot]

1 dollar +4 mult is the best deal in the whole game

[white zodiac]

x2 mult for ante 1

[terse vale]

are these like scripted or would they be randomly placed on

[idle haven]

Sigh

[terse vale]

well

[ripe iris]

i swear jimbo was 2 dollars

[terse vale]

it has to be one foot infront of the other atleast

[idle haven]

I rerolled from the plant to the wall someone kill me

[white zodiac]

one footprint per hiker activation

[lunar zealot]

1 dollar bc you obvioisly sell it

[ripe iris]

i see

[terse vale]

is the direction random I mean 👀 or will it go in the same spiral for every card

[ripe iris]

but what if you didnt

[faint birch]

genuinely really cheap and easy to grab with little loss from an econ perspective. useful especially when you need to buff up abstract early too

[terse vale]

especially ante 1

[prime valve]

And why is it going bad?

[terse vale]

cus +1 dollars from interest

[white zodiac]

jimbo is naturally perishable by concept anyways

[terse vale]

and gets you through the boss blind easy enough

[spark kernel]

How hard is ghost deck

[terse vale]

not hard

[lunar zealot]

Not much at all

[white zodiac]

not hard

[signal brook]

Still want -mult and -chips

[lunar zealot]

Ah yes -mult

my favorite scaling -mult joker popcorn

[hot jackal]

Can y'all tell me a good joker build for balatro

[signal brook]

You have too many cards for erosion

-4 mult

[lunar zealot]

The one you find

[terse vale]

ok well theres a lot

[faint birch]

good jokers are bad early game cos you cant afford them when they show up in shop 1.

unless you're yellow deck, you rich bastard

[lunar zealot]

the only expensive jokers you take without question ante 1 tends to be those that provide immediate value rather than lategame scoring

a la vagabond's tarot generation or midas mask's 12 gold cards

[signal brook]

Throwback

🤤

[lunar zealot]

Shut up

[swift tundra]

Ghost deck is the deck Balatro was meant to be played with imo. It's my favorite deck to mess around with and it's not even close. It's like playing with legos, and there is a box of special legos, and normally you only get to have a special lego once in awhile and sometimes it's not the special lego you want. Ghost deck lets you play with all the special legos the whole time.

[faint birch]

i don't know where to begin. you're not going to get the exact jokers you want from build reccs

[signal brook]

Go sleep you tired bastard

[faint birch]

just start to learn good synergy

[white zodiac]

reroll voucher downside

[faint birch]

balatro runs are what you make out of what you got

[lunar zealot]

Generally speaking if you want a consistent build play pairs with a scaling +mult joker?

it depends on your deck and early luck

but if you're on like blue or yellow deck you generally want to opt for pairs just for consistency

[signal brook]

🅱️lasma

[lunar zealot]

in that sense find bus or nova or grimbo

then get econ

[slate lance]

No i mean for u

[sinful prairie]

^this

People gotta learn what roguelikes are

[white zodiac]

whatever this is

[lunar zealot]

maybe get a chips joker if you need it

[frosty fulcrum]

early luck beacause of lack of econ or justb to survive ?

[faint birch]

time to change my name

[lunar zealot]

then find a xmult joker

[lunar zealot]

It dependsss

[slate lance]

Oh ok (i sudk with electricity 😭 )

[lunar zealot]

let's take magic deck for example

[white zodiac]

we’re growing we’re changing 💫

[lunar zealot]

You can either triple hermit to get lots of money

[signal brook]

Tf

[swift tundra]

@slate lance Why exactly do you hate painted deck? I've always wondered

[lunar zealot]

or triple saturn to double down on straight power

[faint birch]

this is what i changed it to

[lunar zealot]

Or triple jupiter

[slate lance]

Wtf

[faint birch]

i will never stop flushing

[lunar zealot]

or triple mercury

you get the idea

[signal brook]

I feel like a no joker run would be better than just +0 red card

[lunar zealot]

wrong

temperance

[terse vale]

once I did triple magican

[lunar zealot]

abstract

[terse vale]

that was nice

[slate lance]

It was my 2nd ever goldstake so i relied way more on jokers and now i will forever hate it

[signal brook]

Which is a joker

[white zodiac]

I need red card stats

[barren wigeon]

time to gold stake plasma deck

[signal brook]

Which would not be just 1 red card

[white zodiac]

oh fun

[slate lance]

Good luck cro

[faint birch]

i wish you double runner

[prime valve]

Im good with electricity but im bad with technologies.

[barren wigeon]

hmm

eternal runner

[slate lance]

Double castle is yummy too, that's how i won myne

[signal brook]

🦵🤤🦵

[faint birch]

shortcut runner hype

[barren wigeon]

not runner

[gloomy marsh]

what is general strategy with green joker? i understand you play pairs and high card but are blue seals and gold cards practical? having to blow discards (mult)

[barren wigeon]

eternal Wily joker

[white zodiac]

it would be up until the last hand to affect stats

[faint birch]

LOL those are different

[vale mist]

you'll learn better from your own experience in the game or from watching other people play, there's too many factors to consider to simply say "this is a good synergy", because what may be considered "good" in one run might be terrible for another

[prime valve]

Ohhh😅

[barren wigeon]

had runner on the brain

[lunar zealot]

just play lots of pairs

[slate lance]

Ah ok

[white zodiac]

after 2 antes you can forget about its gimmick

[barren wigeon]

hmm

should I take eternal wily joker

[white zodiac]

no

[barren wigeon]

plasma

[swift tundra]

ah, I can appreciate that

[lunar zealot]

Try to stay above +20 mult if possible and while getting to that point do NOT discard like 99% of the time

[white zodiac]

"no"

[faint birch]

green joker is just "win with your last hand, never discard" and then you go crazy

[barren wigeon]

fair enough

[lunar zealot]

once you get above that threshold you can be much more lenient about using discards

[faint birch]

only discard in emergencies

[lunar zealot]

whether for purple seals or rebate value

[frosty fulcrum]

Best red card oat right here

[faint birch]

or greed

[lunar zealot]

Or even niche things like blackboard or blue seals

[warped crown]

Why are some uncommons so much rarer than rares

[faint birch]

why is rebate so fucking good

[sinful prairie]

Bala

[prime valve]

Yeah I hate it. But im going to sleep finally its 12:08 AM so goodnight Nat

[faint birch]

rebate should probably give $4

[barren wigeon]

what i am gonna take is rough gem and flushmaxx for a while

[gloomy marsh]

sounds good folks. ill get green joker rolling then i can spend some discards later on.

[faint birch]

HELL YEAH

[white zodiac]

5 dollars per card without need for deck fixing goes sick

[lunar zealot]

it was 3 dollars with worse gold stake and then both gold stake and rebate got buffed so it's overtuned

[frosty fulcrum]

bro blackboard is honestly crazy good i used it for the first time in a red deck gold steak run and it carried

[barren wigeon]

more uncommons = less chance to get the uncommon you want

[white zodiac]

6 dollars with interest

[barren wigeon]

ETERNAL BLUE JOKER

[lunar zealot]

For context old gold stake was -1 hand size

[barren wigeon]

probably not

[frosty fulcrum]

WHAT

[sinful prairie]

HEY THAT'S ME

[faint birch]

god painted deck is so good.

[frosty fulcrum]

GUYS I JUST GOT A NAT NEGATIVE BURGLER IM GONNA NANEINF

[warped crown]

Mannn im not asking for too much just lucky cat and all sixes it wont make much of a difference maybe king and mime too cuz i have poly lucky kings is that too much to ask

[grave magnet]

whats a good synergy with joker stencil?

[white zodiac]

not one of my favorite chip jokers on plasma but ight

[faint birch]

joker stencil

[mortal nimbus]

More stencils

[lunar zealot]

I mean this serioisly

more stencils

[sinful prairie]

Beat me to it

[frosty fulcrum]

its the best one

[faint birch]

if it's eternal, just fuck the game up

[barren wigeon]

welp thats a brainstorm

[faint birch]

invisible joker if you dont die

[barren wigeon]

epic!

[frosty fulcrum]

eternal joker stencil ante 1 is pure joy

[grave magnet]

ok, so invisible joker

[hot jackal]

Only red card???

[faint birch]

frankly, if you don't have flat mult, then 1 mult joker

like green or fortune teller

[barren wigeon]

10 dollars per flush is a lot of money

[frosty fulcrum]

yeah or just play any high base mult hand

[vale mist]

does pillar affect cards that scored or all cards played?

[white zodiac]

to some degree

[barren wigeon]

Looks like we're flushmaxxing

[barren wigeon]

what does it say in the description

[faint birch]

or go crazy with planets

[vale mist]

like does pillar debuff the cards that didn't score in that pair I played

[frosty fulcrum]

yeah but thats sometimes hard fr

[vale mist]

"cards played previously in this ante are debuffed"

[grave magnet]

Yeah uh...I just got a Holographic Joker Stencil on Ante 2...

[hot jackal]

Booster skipmaxxing hell yeah

[faint birch]

imo you should always hunt for blue seals

[warped crown]

Help

[frosty fulcrum]

true theyre crazy good

[warped crown]

I got a white blackboard lmao

[frosty fulcrum]

carried gold stake black deck fr

[faint birch]

well that's a wrap, hunt all spectral packs for ahnk and farm some planets.

[barren wigeon]

shouldn't have flushmaxxed

ggs

[frosty fulcrum]

sell it all

[faint birch]

*ankh

[faint birch]

weak...

[white zodiac]

flush on plasma is heavily punished on average

[grave magnet]

yeah. Thats the plan

[gloomy marsh]

what's the move here? thinking of dropping sixth sense for booster pack and abstract for michel?

[barren wigeon]

red card and zany joker

I want neither

[gloomy marsh]

i want to keep business card to support red card

[barren wigeon]

taking red card and selling it for interest

[frosty fulcrum]

BRO IM SO SERIUOS I HAD THIS RUN LIKE AN HOUR AGO JUST WITHOUT BUISNESS CARD

[gloomy marsh]

same deck?

[faint birch]

plan for the wraith?

[white zodiac]

I don't take booster packs on the first ante for plasma as do most decent players

[gloomy marsh]

probably gonna drop it ngl econ looking too good

[frosty fulcrum]

yes

[faint birch]

true

do you have seed money

[barren wigeon]

but there could be a blueprint

[gloomy marsh]

not yet

[barren wigeon]

always gamble

[frosty fulcrum]

nah roll down itll be blueprnt trust

[faint birch]

mm

blueprint hunting is always fun

[frosty fulcrum]

this guy gets it

[gloomy marsh]

son 😭

its gonna be hit the road

100 percent

[white zodiac]

my word quota is up

[faint birch]

nah it's blueprint

cmon

[frosty fulcrum]

bro hit the road is better than like obelisk

[stuck schooner]

natural negative blueprint on next reroll trust

[gloomy marsh]

hell nawwww

well its situational

but majority of the time obelisk clears

[frosty fulcrum]

i DESPISE obelisk

[gloomy marsh]

dude its so awesome

[faint birch]

everyone has opinions for some reason and i wonder why god allows this.

[frosty fulcrum]

i have al gold stakes and havent used obelisk ever

[faint birch]

obelisk pretty good

[stuck schooner]

obelisk when you make it work is so much satisfying

[frosty fulcrum]

hell naw ill die on this hill

[faint birch]

then die

[calm furnace]

attempt at not playing flush failed

[frosty fulcrum]

yeah but hit the road with only jacks is more satifying imo

[pale wolf]

you'll die on that skill too 😎

[faint birch]

flush with painted hell yeah

[frosty fulcrum]

flushes js better fr

[barren wigeon]

two pair maxxing

epic!

[faint birch]

watch out balatrocord, it's the new rise of the flush gamers

[calm furnace]

i fumbled a straight build earlier because i deathed the remaining card in a flush into something else

[frosty fulcrum]

whats the worst deck to gold stake ? i wanna hear the opinons

[calm furnace]

went back to flush

[swift tundra]

Obelisk is situational certainly, but there are times when joker chip and mult output makes it a no brainer. You just can't be relying on your most played hands level otherwise you might have a bad time

[pale wolf]

hardest?

[calm furnace]

black its not matter of opinion

[frosty fulcrum]

yeah

[faint birch]

black

[pale wolf]

black is the only answer

[barren wigeon]

yo

[frosty fulcrum]

i got black in like 5 tries straight up

[gloomy marsh]

for me it was plasma but majority its black

[barren wigeon]

playing two pairs on plasma deck

GUESS WHAT JOKER POPPED UP

[calm furnace]

2nd hardest

[gloomy marsh]

probably a very small minority i am

[frosty fulcrum]

id pick nebula

[faint birch]

plasma aint hard you just gotta learn to play different. it's a whole other style

[calm furnace]

nah plasma is ass for high stakes

[frosty fulcrum]

hated that

[swift tundra]

Erratic was most painful gold stake experience, can't say why, felt like I was being gaslighted the whole time. Maybe this time will be different.

[gloomy marsh]

awful deck for sure

[calm furnace]

uhm its luck based

[frosty fulcrum]

bro all you need is a scary face thats it

[barren wigeon]

EVERYONES FAVORITE SCALING CHIP JOKER (besides wee)

WE ARE TRULY SQUIMBOLATING

[frosty fulcrum]

true shout actually

[gloomy marsh]

square.

[faint birch]

just roll all heart kings

[calm furnace]

lol no chips alone doesnt scale past purple

[terse vale]

prolly bull

[shell dagger]

it can

[frosty fulcrum]

bro i won gold plasam with a wee

[faint birch]

are you joking it totally does

[frosty fulcrum]

thats it

[calm furnace]

erratic is hit or miss but sometimes its the easiest gold stakr

[faint birch]

use a runner

or castle

[frosty fulcrum]

wporks too

[calm furnace]

how much chips do you need?

even with Wee i had to use xmult

[shell dagger]

about 900 per hand

[faint birch]

idk i just keep scaling

[brave goblet]

a lot but BU routinely beats plasma with just chips

[frosty fulcrum]

probably wee joker.... 💔

[brave goblet]

You usually need all your hands

[calm furnace]

yeah thats insanity to get

[barren wigeon]

son

[faint birch]

you have 5 joker slots, get 5 chip jokers

[shell dagger]

not really i did it about 35 times for c++

[stuck schooner]

stone joker builds on plasma are fun too

[frosty fulcrum]

this is a guy ho gets me

[barren wigeon]

do not let me catch you in vermont

[shell dagger]

spamming planets gets you halfway there, i had one run with a good enough 4oak i didnt need joker chips

[faint birch]

im not a guy who gets you im a girl.

[calm furnace]

there are so many runs i dont even get a dingle chip joker

[frosty fulcrum]

i aint ever getting c++

[swift tundra]

My problem with erratic is that every time starting a new run you had to get a baseline of where the deck was at. Normally you're building it up over the course of the run and don't need to glance constantly at what's what. But I was a lot more inexperienced back then. Looking forward to trying it again to see if the pain holds true still.

[frosty fulcrum]

yo mb i meant guy as in like non gender specific

[faint birch]

:/

[calm furnace]

erratic can be a pre made deck fixed if you hit it right but its luck based

[barren wigeon]

looking for this last 6 in my deck so I can eradicate it

[calm furnace]

erratic is just not the most consistent

but you can still force pair builds and be consistent on it

[frosty fulcrum]

js get all 10 of spades naturally

[faint birch]

honestly i dislike it cos i spend every run not playing at first and just analysing what's best with my deck

[brave goblet]

Yeah I hate erratic deck cause it throws off my sense of what's in the deck lol

[pine drum]

Leave mah boi erratic deck alone

[frosty fulcrum]

same

[calm furnace]

you can just pivot to pairs and win

[pale wolf]

some deck building instincts go out the window

[spark void]

Two legendaries in one run...

[faint birch]

never

[calm furnace]

its just that erratic gives the dream and prospect of a wilder build

[hot jackal]

Is the blank voucher even good

[stuck schooner]

erratic experience : is there a suit with 10+ cards on it ? no ? reset.

[brave goblet]

if you have money to spare, sure

[twin lantern]

Is there any way to carry over data from a phone to a pc?

[frosty fulcrum]

bro has no kings and queens left

[faint birch]

keep buying it

[hot jackal]

It literally says it does nothing

[swift tundra]

And over and over I found that dream didn't amount to what I had hoped

[barren wigeon]

and it was ectoplasm

[terse vale]

shhh

[faint birch]

it does the best thing in the game

[barren wigeon]

thanks for the money ig

[terse vale]

ok wait don’t spoil it

[faint birch]

we love blank voucher

[brave goblet]

It has a question mark so it's definitely a secret

[calm furnace]

but once it works it goes amazing

[brave goblet]

[terse vale]

let the player find out

[spark void]

The devious trading card

[faint birch]

you see what blank voucher does is cost $10

[frosty fulcrum]

ante 1 soend all my money on it especially on golkd stake

[faint birch]

GOLD FOR THE BLANK VOUCHER GODS

[frosty fulcrum]

exactlyyyy

[calm furnace]

like an early family or trio on erratic is almost guaranteed win

[faint birch]

my wife left me but blank voucher would never

[frosty fulcrum]

this is true however i dont like it

[brave goblet]

until you can't draw your supposed 4oak

sometimes 9 of a certain rank isn't actually enough to play 4oak

[calm furnace]

skill blue stake bad design issues

[faint birch]

have some faith in me lol

[twin lantern]

Anyone know?

[frosty fulcrum]

idk

[terse vale]

nope

I wish though

[calm furnace]

nope

[brave goblet]

just replay it all with everything you know

[calm furnace]

had to C+ again on pc

you can unlock all jokers and stakes

just do that

[frosty fulcrum]

thats actaully smart fr

[twin lantern]

I mean it isn’t any different just gotta redo shit

[calm furnace]

the worst thing about no data transfer is that i had to play black deck again

[twin lantern]

OH FUCK I GOTTA DO THAT AGAIN

[frosty fulcrum]

bro how do people put themselves thriugh getting likehit the road or obelisk on gold stake this is why ill nevere get c+_+

++*

[calm furnace]

honestly just stick to mobile i prefer it