#🕹・game-discussion
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plasma deck feels weird to play
Chips
I have dragon fruit mountain dew
Its all about chips
the muscle memory from every other deck is gone
Yes.
Its fun on lower stakes but god awful on purple+
Plasma deck is like a game within a game
eh not really. you can just go hard on x multi and scale faster
me when I hear a bong so you know im truly balanced
and really the only real way to play plasma deck is white stake endless
What does hermit do with negative money
you need to have a proper setup before doing so
Be quiet horse woman (but gotcha)
0 dollars
Thought so
Whats -12 times 2
it does nothing
Oh
because localthunk is too much of a coward to make pemdas
it doesn't set your money to zero it just does nothing
we pairing today
just to be clear on what the zero means lol
that's most of the game im just saying its not all chips
It should double the negative number imo
crashes the economy
nobody is saying plasma is purely chipsmaxxiny
How to get out of debt fast
That's what I think it should do, I have it as an idea for my kaizo concept
Wait a joker that increases the more dollars u are below 0 would be cool
Its chips until you pivot to xmult
you will almost always need to pivot to xmult on plasma gold stake
it would be pretty interesting
it would be a cool way of using the rental mechanic in another productive way
because 99% of chips runs die to vessel
I'm not sure how powerful it could be though without being able to shop roll
man i ain't do math my balatro calculator does that for me you just have to get -12 chips and 2 mult
What does vessel do again...?
just topdeck a stone and marble joker clearly
Yeah but finding the -1 per card played boss would be op a bit tho
big
why has nobody thought of this?
Ah
plasma vessel is hilarious
Disco rocks duh
individual boss synergies are rarely a reason to not do something
Wait its js a bigger wall right?
1.2 million chips
look at credit card and ox/wraith, look at burglar and needle/water
6x
wouldn't it be 2.4 because plasma
The wall in question:
Wait foes burglar actually increase the hands in needle
what if they're asking about white stake
zebra im gonna eat you
Ok that is cool
get in line
Thats basically just ½ boss size
Alex the lion
LMAO
credit card wraith is hilarious to me, the first time i hit that and realised it worked i was losing my shit
pretty much
Does it let u go 40 in debt?
nah wraith gets rid of all your debt. it always sets you to 0
wraith gives you a rare but sets your money to zero, not the one that duplicates
but yes if you have multiple credit cards you can go down to -40 or whatever
-20x
x being number of cc
Ooo
so being in debt with card or having a pocket wraith lets you counter whatever loss you have
i only take credit card when i have like zero money on ante 1 or like 2
Ankh and hex is so meh before black stake
Thats silly
i bring this up because the funniest shit i did was perkeo wraith
credit card is meant to be an emergency get out of jail option like luchador or Mr Bones
would u buy flash card or peek into buffoon
Maybe i should try that wih my bank some time
Me when I sell hex for $3
gift card
i mean flash card is pretty good
you'd like econ with it eventually
Buffoon pack
Perkeo ankh and a eternal stencil
it self farms blueprint and brainstorm
what if you peek into baffoon pack and there's blueprint tho
on ante 1 with no econ? fuck no
Stability or gamble
yeah thats the thing
Clearly gamble
yeah but peeking into buffoon high chance of u selling the card for 2$ and still affording it which is what my gmabling impulse always do
flash card is better bootstraps but that's a low bar to clear
I would peek in the buffoon
hilarious idea actually yeah
I gotta get rid of faceless bc im getting 0 face cards
me when i don't buy hex
For it being an uncommon I rarely see the joker
it only appears after youve been a good boy/girl in that run
what if you're nonbinary
its conditional
what if i'm neither
Seeing double is right there
Guess I'm evil
what was in the pack
irredeemable garbage I bet
you're a good neither
me when i take pareidolia on an abandoned deck
gift card needlessly making my negative high cards worth $40 every round
it was shortcut that sold for 3$ and then next shop im 1$ short from a business card
maxloss
shortcut perish
suboptimal
did you take flash card over shortcut?? lordy
its perishable
its joever
"deck has no face cards"
as per usual, chad would be nice rn
Anyone think negative enhancements/edition for playing cards would be cool, maybe they can have a chance to draw on top of the cards u discarded / played
i love chad
i think that idea has already been objected by thunk
i think it would be cool, obvious caveats being that you cant duplicate them via death/cryptid (same way you cant duplicate the negative edition on a joker with ankh or invis)
they would just add +1 to hand size while in hand
holyyy the business card came back
what about enchantments on jokers like you have a glass baron it breaks and you die
I assume it would be a spectral card that makes them so they wouldn't be overly abundant or anything, I don't see any reason why they can't exist to be honest
thats a thing in cryptid you can have negative cards and fragile jokers
In this hypothetical, who is glassing baron of all things
Yeah smt like that
me when squimbolating
Like its the only edition that can exist on jokers but nit playing cards
glass joker synergy
Maybe cryptid could dupe it but not dna , death or any other way
Whoever said that jokers are the most consistent part can go f himself
nah the mod mate
cryptid the mod
Oh whats the mod
new blue stake
fragile jokers
CRYPTID
Extra hand size?
yo that's me and also me and also brainstorm
Yeah what ecen is it
#cryptid
lost a great run due to pulling 0 10s in my deck full of 10s
Yeah and they have like a idk 1in4 chance to draw on top of the cards u pull
ggs ig
Another way oops would be op
where's brainstorm
like the mod which you basically can't lose
to the right of me
you lose when you crash
no irl
Im ok playstation so idk any mods at al
🥲
YESSSSSSSSSSSS
perishable 2 let's go
WE SO BACK
negative bull
vic
Balatro multiplayer is seeded right
i want more lesbians in balatro
I've never seen a balala multiplayer run that doesnt go into endless by like ante 4
Yo?
idk but it's the same seed for both players
bro 2 is enough
Yeah
remove wild cards in balatro
ok what happened here lol
remove foil from balatro
How balatro community treats wild cards
because its true
test test
UM ITS NOT FIXING ITSELF
they are usable in like 1 scenario
Ancient joker
what did I break
thats the one
Any suit joker really
id love chad rn
it has the same functionality as a white pencil
What is this seed
used wraith and got obelisk
GET THE SOUL
Skip
guess who's getting 4 bucks
Paradolia and sock and busking is a nasty combo tho
Ik but just crazy seed
Only perkeo or chicot is useful
give me your seed
But chicot is just niche
Phrasing bro 💔
whuh
always
On the final hand of the round
for ante 1
Acrobat hate will not be tolerated
utilizing acrobat for ante 1 of all things is an interesting decision
read the last word as delusion for like 10 seconds and was like "thats a bit harsh"
Like it definitely clears
i love dusks and acrobats but they basically never wprk out for me
😭
It's too risky when not calculated
Usually you need econ to not get hurt by losing money for hands
That too
acrobat is great with 5 card hands
Acrobat is great with scalers as well
otherwise it's a nice safety net
Also hands=money so it's not a good idea to waist hands
it pretty much guarantees that you don't overscore while you scale
you're usually using all your hands by the time acrobat is good
or like with them i score millions of bazillions and without i score 16 it's so inconsistent
Acrobat is very mid to say the least
acrobat does what it does
you can't call it mid if it's the only joker in its niche
Card sharp lwk better
card sharp dies to needle and eye
acrobat top 25 in my heart
who up flushin their build
they do different roles
IN TERMS OF PURE SCORING YES
card sharp being a money inefficient yet relatively safe secondary xmult option and acrobat being emergency scoring and a safety net for wall/needle/vessel
caps lock
me when i get throwback on ante 1 and finish the game in 8 rounds
Yeah that's true
The puti Olympics card i was using that one last night on purple stake and died horribly
But most of the time it's risky
So is card sharp
and if you're finding it risky to use acrobat you're not using it right
ideally you don't trigger it much if at all
just get showman and have 9 negative photographs show up, skill issue
it's like if bones was permanent
I don't even buy it anymore
there's nothing really wrong with buying acrobat in that sense
can i show up too
hell it's uncommon so you can pair it with bbc
It's just 3X mult gang it ain't nothing much
always blueprint
I hate plasma deck
Also you just use once in a round unlike card sharp
x3 is significant
theyre not comparable
Are we playing the same game?
If there's a card I never buy its that matador one that gives you money everytime you trigger the boss stupid card
yeah now it's definitely x3 mult
if you play 4 pairs the final pair is as strong as the previous 3 pairs combined
GGS
yeah I hate having an investment tag inside of a joker for a1
$24? yuck!
Let's wrap it up
come to me when you have a x10 yorrick and only then will i ever care about any joker, that's the only way anything matters
Chat who's better card sharp or acrobat
where's my seed
They do different things genius
Bloodstone is the biggest scam in Balatro. Flush five, hanging chad; I did not get even 1/7 triggers. Fuck bloodstone. Fuck bloodstone. Fuck bloodstone.
depends
if it doesn't have x50 mult, it's basically worthless
Phrasing
I think acrobat is better
what about holographic dna
so useful
trust me
yeah cause 3x50 is 150 which is great
I think the context that this is dependent on is whether you have a hand scaling Joker or not
acrobat is for emergencies
Let's say you find in the shop a card sharp and an acrobat but you can only buy one of them, which one are u buying
your win button vs violet vessel
the eye
card sharp
depends
have i seen the eye or needle?
theres 1000 factors in the game
Let's say you just started your run
Neither
its good in many other situations and gives you more xmult a lot
no repeat hand types this round
WHAT
i need +mult at the start not an x mult
i would take card sharp early
im aware what it does
like ante 1
Still, card sharp can be a good investment early game
yeah card sharp seems fine
in that sense both are too expensive
I just won purple and orange stake on black deck back to back and I'm currently winning gold stake. Black deck is not that intimidating
i think the game goes to ante 8 idk
if I don't know that I'm going to get a hand scaler then I suppose I will take sharp
its 6 dollars, it could ruin your econ or make you too broke to buy smth else
try painted deck
interest is important
if it's ante 1 just go next
what if it's from the pack
or like open the buffoon pack
it's only 6
Im a green deck lover so
I'm number one painted deck hater but I already won gold stake on painted
Then obviously take sharp with the intent to sell it later
I do like card sharp its decent, I almost won purple stake on anaglyph with that card
I think I'd rather just keep sharp
what deck are we playing
I just got a reserved and baron run b2b and fumbled both of them in ante 2/3
white
i hate it too but it's surprisingly good
no effect
your mother
rainbow
then you probably want to win in least possible hands. card sharp makes you play atleast 2 hands per round, so basically if youre relying on it its -2 dollars per round
Because baron is only good when your deck is properly fixed and your hands are leveled up
Woah thank you sherlock
Some people treat baron like the only way to win this game lol
the duo is only good when you play a pair
I'm about to use this erratic deck today
I was just upset that I got synergy and fumbled cuz the game didn't give me common chip jokers in early antes like tf
hands that contain paird 😡
Sadge
I was lucky yet unlucky at the same time
i just lost 6th winstreak back to the mines
Wanna see the definition of luck?
seis siete
Yesterday's high score run
hit the road is only good when uhhh when uhhhhh when uhhh when
could be better
People who survive encounters with kratos?
3 soul cards in one run
yeah, what about 5?
Good one
or 6
Aleeb ahh run
yo that's me
Its like running into prime mike tyson bro
me and my twin
all my arcana packs are composed of entirely soul cards
Lol I haven't been anywhere close to being that lucky
What seed is that
How is that even possible
showman
true forgot
Uhh what
Showman allows duplicates to appear
if a pack would have had more than one soul, showman allows it to appear
me when showman puts me in the shop three times
Uh does that even happen?
Yes
Because thats what showman does?
its pretty common ngl
Hey I spent like 20k to find a duplicate of you yesterday
i always get atleast 4 doul cards per pack....
No the fuck it isnt
Guess my most played hand type
I never had that because soul cards are pretty rare
Must be ragebait
hey thats pretty mean 😢
I've seen a screenshot with five Soul cards in a pack although I don't know if it was actually legitimate
just use ankh
No you don't
Yes I was thinking about that in ante 37
This some shit my brother would say, equivalent of him saying he killed 20 people in call of duty at the same time 😭😭
hey thats pretty mean 😢
Lmao
green joker
Btw I had negative showman there
yeah i got telescope voucher it's a wrap
Free win
ante 2 and i got my econ and x mult
yes constellation i love you
constellation x astronomer yuri
me when green joker and water
Just because they synegize doesn't mean they should be together
doomed yuri? okay
Me when green joker and the hook
Yes
Idol skip to the end 
gay mime
lets go i love gay mime
me when green joker and mystic summit
Me when green joker and purple seals
My invis hit my eternal green joker last run
Was the best thing that happened that run
HAH
wow your run is complete
i really wish the misprint top deck peek worked while debuffed
cos id just totally take that for ease of reading
i dont wanna go into collection
me when settings > collection > jokers
I call this run "The Carry"
jim carrey
misprint's on the second page of jokers too
john carry
Flush enthusiast
What was egg there for 😭
❗
As I said, it was being carried
Temperance value
temperance value
yo that's me
Jinx
Eh
🔇
I wasn't gonna use this OP run to not get any stickers
So I sold my rebate and bought an egg

🤐
what the hell is this self countering egg
🎭 !!!!!!!!!!!
to do list
Chicot
just say you want them to lose...
chicot i love you
i need a heeerooo
who's the boss
time to mess up my economy for my last sticker
What ante do i need to make naneinf? Ante 23?
the first legendary i got
if i lose then what a shame
wow that joker is so good it will help you out so much with the plant
so true!
btw i have this next
peek a boo with the tarots
why isn't there a blind that just debuffs your whole deck
on r/reddit its the plant
that's why you always take director's cut
Finisher blind where yo whole deck is face down
...im never going to have economy if i take this
amber acorn but opposite
but it would be funny
Are we off the plant and head?
just put a golden seal on all cards
You can hope for lucky card hits
I don't remember
Which Sock can provide
who needs money when you have no money
Go ahead
Nothing to lose
yep ggs i got the plant
Runner run
didnt even get a voucher tag
untill 1 joker sold
yes
i like got the leaf twice in my whole life
chicot
I hate Bloodstone
Verdant Leaf is not a bossblind as long as you have a dead joker or your score comes from your jokers themselves
why do you keep making these hyperbolic statements that clearly can't be true unless you have like 10 total runs
what’s the news topic for today
balatrodle in 4
Me when my boss is Cerulean Bell
"Why does Verdant Leaf never appear?"
you’re washed
the cats are all gone so is the color blue
i remembered when you got balatrodle in 3
fell off
i never ever in my whole life got jimbo once
in 3 🥹
tutorial first shop
truthfully I should have gotten it in three as well, my second choice was sub-optimal
I have the wrong copy of Balatro installed
why are there ads
I have the urge to tell you that I like your pfp
That's a YouTube video
No sight? No problem!
the original art without the christmas stuff was made by a friend if youre interest dm them 1000 times and get blocked by them prob@!@!
Well, I know what you did now, did you commission that?
My 32 played flushes are saving me against the wrath of the ox 🥹
I won in 3 lmao
likely story
he made it for me and asked nothing in return but maybe cause im a friend
How do I share balatrodle?
That's actually wholesome
Imma redraw my pfp, I've had this for years now
spoilered screenshot
Okie thank you
Not like I'm gonna make it to the boss blind, but still
on mobile you tap the image before you hit send
Gee gee
should make an emote out of this
i should make separate emotes for bloodstone, baron, showman etc then speech bubbles for each significant member
splendid
i love seeing people get encouraged to draw
lets friggin go
I thought it was another joker and I thought I got it in 3 tries
and then constellation, plasma, stm, blue deck, and bbc for some other folk
Haven't drawn in too long, might aswell start again
me when i spoil
my guesses were ||greedy joker > mail-in rebate > scary face||
me when spoiler
john spoiler
also me when i don’t share result history
I'm dumb how do I spoil text
put || on both sides
Okay
on both sides
||copy message and paste whatever fancy text they used into your own in case of other things u wanna do||
media spoilers zebra just showed you
copy? i'm a master at it
balatrodle
||const into castle is certainly a guess||
All jokers de buffed till you sell a playing card?
How do I sell a playing card 
Well yes I wasn't paying attention to the hints they gave
i-
Guess that was a dumb move
that's opposite leaf
One playing card disabled every hand
hanged man
What's your favorite and least favorite tarots?
And what's your most used tarot in the stats
glass, sun
do i go for it
this is kinda a zombie run
nothing to write home about and the joker selection has been pretty bad
wheel of fortune
i do have 3 luckies and that magician
thats the game
Stonks
I know but I was distracted and thought it was ||uncommon||
ooh
wordle in 7 
where's that in the game
Is that favorite or least favorite
both
both
Options > stats > card stats
hey kanjikun
Guess what my most used consumable is
yeah

my most played jokers are chad and dna
wtf
favoriting this
my most used voucher is hone
Mine is telescope
Hone isn't even top 10 in my stats lol
Blank is top 10 and hone isn't
second is clearance sale
makes sense
sure
Goofy run
Most used spectrals?
what deck should i play

why is grabber nonexistent on your list
Black deck gold stake let's do it together
Why is telescope nonexistent in yours?
aight
Immolate is the third? Sadge
i skiped first 2 blinds
Immolate is my first
there are far more versatile vouchers to pick up
cryptid
have you ever seen blue seals?
They're beautiful I love blue seals
i love 🏳️⚧️ and their 🔵 🦭
8 ball procs
Mercury maxxing
Same
blue seals? what about blue prints
never heard of that
🔵 🖨️
zebruh what 2 ranks do you normally print on abandoned deck
i skipped 2 blinds again
i got water
just discard 23 cards a round
i got negative eternal 8 ball
Got the best joker in the game.
I got 8 ball and nothing else worth picking
i skipped 2 blinds again
ctrl+a moment
9 and uuuh whatever else that best comes up
I think I've shied away from building 2s preemptively now esp on abandoned bc its harder and wee is rare
i do 8s
Lost the run
I don't really go for a specific rank.
idk what my second rank should be preemptively
i dont care enough about 8ball to preemptively build it bc itll self actualize itself if i get it
The first one i'm seeing or if i get a good card from a standard pack i'm doing that rank.
c9 getting a big boost initially makes me happy, 5s are good for fib
on ante...
depends
3rd attempt
1
yes
Definitely.
its a great hit early
Eternal rental 6th sense and eternal juggler
One of the best i'll say.
None.
I know
she will be so happy
Very silly zebra.
5th attempt
I'm still on my 3rd
im wheezing rn
you should wish for me
I'm on my 4th attempt lol
i got perishable dna
Enlarged text or smol pfps?
200% zoom in discord settings
i got immolate
turn into a mega boomer
YES! I BEAT THE BLACK DECK!
The real mega boomer mode is compact mode discord.
Fuck the black deck
damn you getting old unc
Try it out.
i'm playing black deck on gold stake rn
hell yeah dude
please god make it stop i just want to see my last 2 jokers on a winning run
Literally my second run of the day
ive made it my goal to beat black deck on gold stake
God these draws are killing me
thats what i used to do
i know its possible but i have to GET to gold stake first. i think im on black
literally doing that rn
Same
actually i think on desktop i still would use compact
it just doesnt exist on mobile
good luck yall
if i didnt have pfps tho fork would be impossible to keep track of
one of the challenges i enjoyed the least
ping
Can't switch to show usernames only?
as a straight enthousiast
Same, although it's a early one enjoyed it way less than a lot of other ones and found it more frustrating than fair/challenging
is there new upcoming update
when it’s ready
there is no real timeline
my guess is second half of 2026
worth the wait
why are you an obelisk fan
are you having a stroke
yeah
i like winning runs
twins
doesn't look like it
Obelisk is hard to activate but rewarding
depends if the joker on the right does
hard to activate is a stretch
it’s hard to activate if you dig a lot for blue seals
right joker is madness
but besides that
i destroy him i win
This joke became unfunny with the hazbin hotel character.
photograph or smiley face
it’s very easy to activate
I made it to the small blind in Ante 11 after this
i got free eternal campfire
why you a hater
hope i get riff raff
hh is ass 🥲
TRAGIC
when you play obelisk, do you keep resetting it
depends
No
ik the strategy, I just find it tedious to kickstart
one dollar short from midas mask
Invest in real memes
i did
the gold sticker I have on it was satisfying to do lowkey
but no baron mime 💔 💔
why didn't it work
ecin
Credit card in the judgment in the arcana pack
i dont even remember this run, found a pic of it in my phone
it’s shit for ante 8
let's go bro :)
zoahl loves baron
always gamble
I FINALLY REACHED ANTE 12 !!!!!\
how can you not remember your const runs
zoahl

dang i'm gay
gayprint
Another one
eggternal
anybody got any smart ideas for hunting down final stickers?
sadly its money
Do seeded runs count for stickers
Uhm
me with my flush diamond rough gem run getting nothing: fuck
you can try to spread your rerolls as soon as you have your winning build
gj on the win
been doin that. money tree and all
Me with flush hearts getting no Bloodstone multi
I've never won with obelisk as you can tell no stickers on it, but I guess I'll start winning
so im just having a skill issue i guess
if you got rares left i would skip ante 7-8 if i can afford it
taking rare skips ofc
yeah that's completely insane
I need help though lol, what hands should I start playing?
pairs
dna is my only rare left
until ante 4-5
Flush is funny
Black deck so to ante 6 I guess
in this case, pairs would be the best choice, because it would be impossible to force yourself into it when you can't do your usual hand
And I guess hanging face cards can be worth it in this run
yes absolutely
nah you can play 3oak or other hands
black deck is so ass honestly
Black deck
you need to find some chips of any kind, that aint planet cards
a good start means a lot and it struggles with that
I hate black deck
Wily joker is my only option
yeah black deck is surprisingly challenging to get off the ground
its like "woah hey! an extra joker slot! this will be easy for sure!" the severe lack of econ in question:
not bad with ride the bus honestly but not ideal for playing pairs
Who said I'll be playing pairs?
i guess just pair, pair then 3 of a kind each round?
If I have wily I'll just play 3oak
it's my suggestion here at least
not consistent enough
yeah 3oak is annoying tbh
use 3oak for now if you need it but focus on scaling
Hmmm yeah
honestly a few mercuries can do in the meantime
Yeah god I lost because of a misclick
o o f
that's my first challange and the first attempt
if you have a lot of a random rarity
Gg
your first challenge was fragile?
on this save file
Wait what
that's the unlocked save file
Did you unlock all
with the button
So yeah unlock all
i never beat any challangges on my main save
Im doing lucky cat build and i just got dna should i go flush five or whats the end build?
I have chad blue print dna lucky cat
for scoring do i blueprint cat or chad?
idol? Isnt idol random ?
the only one thats random is ancient joker
and thats why nobody uses it for high scores
ah so rn i should try to death hang my deck to all lucky one card
all one card
yes
that is the meta for idol
thats gonne be tough hopefully i dont die
trading card helps
but one card as in one card
yeah ik xd
one card but like not one card
hung men obviously
cccccccryptid
I was mainly saying cards that will get rid of some of the other cards but yes cryptid does increase idol chances
My deck is so ass rn (srry for quality)
WHen the game is difficult but I like it then anyone who complains has a skill issue, except when I find it tedious, then its artificial difficulty
king of spades is probably your best copy rn since you have 2
Turns out i dont have idol unlcoked in my ipad
welp
i swear I remember unlocking it
Wha the hell am i looking at
score a million
This but unurinically
I have had bad luck with deleting
you need more money then
Also need eco jokers
Money = luck
Looks inside
Numbers
trading card!!!
U say this like ive had it on my shop before
67!!!!!!!
my favorite number is 80085
wow what a strangely specific number
seis siete
i wonder what happens if i type it into a calculat-
I hate you all

Hot
800
we are not prime numbering rn
17
aw
2 3 5 8 A
it appears we are
i'm numbering it
9
I had the boss that face down face cards now i have 3 lucky Jack hearts and 2 lucky King of Spades
go full jack hearts?
2
king sor queens really
bscaus eyo u could find triboulet
1234567810111213
and baron
no
i know my numbers ofc it's 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 J Q K A
idol builds are incompatible with baron builds
well they dont have idol
WE ARE NOT FIBONACCING
13
then it just loops infinitely
314159265
Yesterday I got the gold stake from the idol
2
thats what i know
XD
WE ARE NOT PIING
NO PI
Ugh
Ugggghhhhhhhhh
Joker is always a difficult card to get in gold stakes
no golden
3.14159265357989323846264338
dont call him joker
good thing this isn’t pi
he has a name you know
oh yeah this isnt pi
repeating numbers???
oh it's 8979 not 7989
not very pilike
6767678567767⁷6886867676767676767676866876686686767676868678686868686868686767767557676
Xddd
7⁷⁷⁷
pi has plenty of repeating numbers
3 twice at the end lock in
nah
67!!!!!!
repeating is the only thing i'm good at
6 7
look it up😭
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no
im gonna find 67 in pi



