🕹・game-discussion

[jagged valve]

I'm 1 month into this game

[wintry ice]

and ghost is good if you have to sticker specific jokers

[crystal field]

they are common just scroll the shop last round smh

[signal frigate]

That's a cool card you got there

[cloud sinew]

eh, I'd rather just go for a more consistent deck

[cloud sinew]

it's better to spread your rolls between shops

[jagged cliff]

Trust me, play ghost deck, once I switched to ghost to grind stickers I got them all in less than a week

[lunar zealot]

do i even need to say anything else

[lavish compass]

is it drunkard over cavendish

[jagged cliff]

Thank you thank you

[buoyant fog]

flush builds suck so bad

[jagged valve]

Ok nice

[cloud sinew]

Ghost is absolutely not that good for stickers unless you need rares

[bleak seal]

Oh hey a blueprint that's neat

[buoyant fog]

worst scaling planet ever for no reason

[jagged cliff]

Now you copy bloodstone and play a flush

[jagged valve]

I have some stakes left for C+ tho

[buoyant fog]

honestly flush needs a scale buff

[white zodiac]

requires you to have jupiter levels, adequate suit/deck fixing, specific support jokers, a specific uncommon, something to deal with at least two hard countered boss blinds, etc…

[wintry ice]

i think +20 chips would be enough

[lunar zealot]

you don't even know what joker to copy bro 😭

[cloud sinew]

I agree

[buoyant fog]

lvl 1 flush is same as lvl 3 high card

like thats stupid

[white zodiac]

that’s a far bigger demand than like haha blackboard

[lunar zealot]

do you even know what my point there was??????

[narrow wadi]

having finally got round to beating the decks i don't enjoy for c+ my top 3 (these are just fun perspective not how good they are) are 1. anaglyph, 2. yellow, 3. zodiac. My bottom 3 are 1. erratic, 2. plasma, 3. nebula

[lunar zealot]

I don't think you did

[buoyant fog]

blackboard is awesome

[jagged cliff]

Idk, it worked for me, getting a useless sticker less joker in shop one and hexing it to give at least 1.5x was pretty helpful

[crystal field]

2 bloodstones averages out to 1 aj

[buoyant fog]

I used to say it sucked but its actually awesome

[crystal field]

like how

[white zodiac]

lvl 2 venus and jupiter have the same chip score :3

[crystal field]

hallucination averages out to 1 cartomancer

[narrow wadi]

i would say it is worse tbh, having guaranteed scoring is better than a scoring range for me

[buoyant fog]

Jupiter is meh

[jagged valve]

Nebula needs to be euthanized

[cloud sinew]

that only works when you're early into the grind, the less stickers you have left the less likely it is you'll get a stickerless joker early

[crystal field]

ofc its worse it takes 2 slots

[jagged cliff]

That the score was low?

[buoyant fog]

2 pair reigns supreme as the best hand in the game

[white zodiac]

it’s infamous for being stinky

[lunar zealot]

oh my god bruh

[cloud sinew]

also AJ is immune to suit bosses if you know how to time your skips

[bleak seal]

God nat negative green joker into stencil is the most free run I've ever done

[narrow wadi]

i think nebula isn't that weak tbf, getting a lot of early pairs level is very nice, i just find it unfun

[cloud sinew]

do you understand how to minmax properly /genq

[jagged cliff]

See, that's what I thought too, but I had pretty good luck on my runs. Either I had a good joker to hex first round, or a sticker less one, and the deckfixing of ghost deck solidified it for me

[jagged valve]

K i gtg now

[narrow wadi]

obviously the weakest is black deck but it is still pretty fun so it doesn't make my bottom 3 list

[lunar zealot]

I will send this image a second time

just so we understand each other

[jagged valve]

I see

[jagged cliff]

Yeah

[lunar zealot]

what exactly is wrong with this image

[buoyant fog]

I meant Venus but still LMAO

3oak is so stupid

Just play full house at that point

[white zodiac]

what

[minor portal]

I think..... maybe..... bloodstone

[buoyant fog]

insert Chris Pratt gif

[white zodiac]

it has the exact same scaling

[bleak seal]

Nebula is one of my favorite decks I'll fight this to my grave

[jagged cliff]

Idk, that you're copying hack while I'm not seeing enough 2-5 cards to justify that

[crystal field]

holy peak this chat is in a state

[bleak seal]

I LOVE free wins with mercury

[lavish compass]

dude..

[lunar zealot]

that's your problem with the fucking image????

[white zodiac]

i’ve added more ppl on my red sal list within the past 10 minutes this is so sad

[bleak seal]

Nice

[buoyant fog]

time to sell rebate

[crystal field]

imma just do what this guy is doing yall can keep arguing

[jagged cliff]

Yeah?

[buoyant fog]

or DNA i guess....

it is ante 7 LOL

[lavish compass]

perkeo

[lunar zealot]

Do you genuinely not see it

Take another look and tell me what you see

[narrow wadi]

I get people finding it fun, but the favourite??? There are decks which give you crazy cool things, nebula just gives planet pack consistency

[jagged cliff]

Just tell me damn 😭

[buoyant fog]

endless time

[white zodiac]

with inconsistent celestial pack appearances :3

[narrow wadi]

True lol

[white zodiac]

do you really not know

[buoyant fog]

Imagine 2 yoricks and a perkeo

so sick

[lunar zealot]

FIE AND FIE AGAIN

[jagged cliff]

It's fricking 5 pm or am idk, right now

[narrow wadi]

Anaglyph is my favourite deck from a fun perspective, it makes me actually look at what the skips are which is a cool addition

[cloud sinew]

makes planets in the shop much worse by not being able to block as effectively though

[narrow wadi]

Also the like 5 double tag negative skip is fun af

[minor portal]

cool crazy things, such as: blue deck

[cloud sinew]

which is a pretty big downside

[buoyant fog]

Anaglyph is fun, painted is my fav tho

[lunar zealot]

lilo do you see the problem with this image

[cloud sinew]

consumable blocking is one of the most underrated optimisations relative to how much it helps across a run, I think

consumable blocking is so powerful

[narrow wadi]

I did not say blue deck was one that gives u a cool crazy thing, blue deck is very strong but not that fun

[terse vale]

true

[jagged cliff]

Dude, it's 5 am, if it's not bp copying hack idk

[unreal island]

chat new joker idea

Ginger Ale (Uncommon)
Sell this joker to double the next end of round payout.

[narrow wadi]

I do like painted given imo at least straights are the meta instead of pairs which makes it kinda unique

[white zodiac]

not even the mainstream content creators do this frequently, they should talk about it more

[bleak seal]

That sounds

[cloud sinew]

2 bloodstones 2 hacks and she didn't score enough to beat the small blind of a8

[buoyant fog]

True

[bleak seal]

Kinda bad

Idk

[buoyant fog]

I cant stand the pair meta

I refuse to participate

[bleak seal]

I'd have to see it in practice

[terse vale]

well you didn’t call on me but I don’t

[narrow wadi]

I think pairs runs are fun, they are just very repetitive

[buoyant fog]

When will the Uranus gang rise up

[unreal island]

every time you complain about a new joker being bad just remember that seance and showman made the cut

[lunar zealot]

It's blatantly obvious????

[cloud sinew]

seance mentioned before idol smh

[jagged cliff]

They got halfway there, if they played a flush right now with BP copying bs, they'd probably win
And I don't know if they even have a lot of 2-5 cards so the hack was justifiable

[terse vale]

I dont see anything that pops out

[white zodiac]

just play black/plasma/painted and you’ll at least have a couple alternatives

[unreal island]

both on their way to be used exactly once (foudn in a judgement and then sold for interest)

[jagged cliff]

Not every hand needs to win in one

[narrow wadi]

Tbf if u hate the pairs meta u can just not play pairs, sure u win less runs but thats kinda fine

[lunar zealot]

is the fact that double bloodstone and two sources of retriggers not beating the blind in one hand actually going over your head

[buoyant fog]

Yeah, but I'm silly and play 2 pair no matter what deck I'm using

[unreal island]

one day we will have the 8 ball meta

[cloud sinew]

I like playing optimally, but optimal play is boring if it's the same strategy over and over again

[unreal island]

and it will be glorious

[jagged cliff]

I said that the score was too low already

[unreal island]

also reword the chance to be 2 in 8

[terse vale]

prolly insanely unlucky with bad flush levels? I have no idea

[lunar zealot]

yes and what exactly does that MEAN

[terse vale]

I mean is the picture edited

[cloud sinew]

I don't think Kami has bad flush levels given the rebate/bp giving crazy economy

[terse vale]

bloodstone sucks thats a possibility that could happen in game

[buoyant fog]

my lunch is 2 burritos and 2 packs of instant ramen

[narrow wadi]

Same, painted/ abandoned for straights builds and forcing 4oak on erratic can break it up tho, forcing 4oak on erratic is barely worse than pairs imo

[buoyant fog]

someone kill me

[terse vale]

ohh

[cloud sinew]

she has $164 in that image

[terse vale]

true i’m just thinking of any way this could happen

[narrow wadi]

Also flushes on checkered I guess

[buoyant fog]

paradolia faceless BP my beloved

[jagged cliff]

That means that bloodstone is a chance based joker that sometimes hits all 5 cards and sometimes not even one, I acknowledge that and I know that sucks

[buoyant fog]

Just free money at that point

[white zodiac]

rebate mogs

[buoyant fog]

now thats a build that LITERALLY pays for itself

[buoyant fog]

WHAAA?

[terse vale]

I thought you were asking if something was wrong with the image
like a value secretly changed or something

[buoyant fog]

no shot

[cloud sinew]

if something can go wrong it will go wrong, given ample opportunity

[lavish compass]

quite unlucky with the invisible jokers.

[terse vale]

bloodstone can lowroll and that’s one of the reasons why it sucks ass thats all

[cloud sinew]

if you're relying on misprint for your scoring, then you will die eventually

[buoyant fog]

dang, thats still pretty good tho

sucks that it wasnt yorick

[unreal island]

chat new joker idea

Alt + F4 (Rare)
Destroy this joker to create your last used Tag (Double Tag if no Tags were used)

[cloud sinew]

the same is true for draws, for bloodstone procs, for bosses, etc

[buoyant fog]

actually good joker idea for once

[lunar zealot]

in that screenshot had i gotten that exact rng

[lunar zealot]

i lose to eye, vessel, water, needle

[pure oasis]

Hmm, what should i do with these red poly-Kings? Keep those Lucky or change to steel with the Chariot? Or even Golden ones because i have the Mime?

[jagged cliff]

So that means you also don't ever go for a face card build since the plant can show up without reroll abilities? Or you don't go for a build that requires hearts since they can be debuffed? Same goes for spades, diamons and clubs, so on and so on

[narrow wadi]

I rly like this idea but it does also feel like a direct buff to cola and games generally don’t add undisguised power creep

[lunar zealot]

Yes, yes, and yes

[cloud sinew]

Yes

[unreal island]

kid named onyx agate:

[lunar zealot]

if your photochad build dies to plant that's on you

[cloud sinew]

that's just poor planning

[buoyant fog]

although its very similar to cola, but having to destroy it would be more difficult

[narrow wadi]

True tbf, it is uncommon tho which does make it kinda justified

[terse vale]

It depends but defaulting to a build that has the most immunities is optimal

[lunar zealot]

if you make a build relying on one suit and haven't seen that suit debuffer boss blind yet

Guess what

That's on you

[buoyant fog]

how do you destroy jokers? Madness and Dagger right?

[unreal island]

yes and cola is uncommon compared to alt + f4 being rare

[cloud sinew]

if you have photochad your goal should be adding glass to non-faces asap (typically)

[buoyant fog]

or is there other ways

[lunar zealot]

if you make a build relying on on-scored at all and end up dying to something out of your control

[white zodiac]

i don’t immediately tunnel towards a build notorious known for being inconsistent from the get go

[lunar zealot]

That is on you

[unreal island]

madness dagger ankh hex etc

[narrow wadi]

Ah fair, that would be a good joker then imo

[lavish compass]

lol...

[hearty warren]

photochad more like glasschad

[cloud sinew]

Taking on-score eternals with madness and then wondering why I died to leaf

[lunar zealot]

You control the actions you do in any given game

It is by your hand whether you win or lose

Rng be damned

[buoyant fog]

ahhh I see, thatd be a sick vanilla modded joker

[cloud sinew]

you should plan for the worst RNG possible so that if it happens, because it will happen eventually, you don't lose to it

[jagged cliff]

It sounds like you only play to win ante 8, or am I wrong?

[lunar zealot]

This is why we always make builds that break the 1.2m score threshold

[buoyant fog]

tell that to the dev of "he is coming"

[white zodiac]

yes that’s what the game is balanced around

[jagged cliff]

I know

[cloud sinew]

yes...? the game is balanced around ante 8 over endless

[lunar zealot]

this is why we always have contingencies like bringing suit tarots into needle or water if we play flushes

bringing justice into plant

[buoyant fog]

fuck that game bro

[cloud sinew]

ante 8 is the default, endless is secondary to that

[jagged cliff]

I know that, but I like to go endless, so I plan my run to see if I can reach far into endless

[cloud sinew]

the game doesn't require you to go into endless besides for petroglyph

[cloud sinew]

and that's fine, but we're not taking about endless here

We're talking about winning runs

[lunar zealot]

And bear in mind

i got planted this run

[white zodiac]

i wanna play the game with 100% of the joker content given to me, not the 10% dribble that comes afterwards

[lunar zealot]

and guess what i still beat it

[terse vale]

ooh ante 14 too

[cloud sinew]

ante 1-8 has significantly more skill expression than 8-39 because of the scaling being manageable with the vast majority of the joker roster but still being quite difficult

and it being what the game is balanced around

[potent tree]

should i sell egg? it's at 47 rn

[lunar zealot]

And even irregardless of that

[potent tree]

boss is VV

[cloud sinew]

is this the last shop?

[lunar zealot]

what the hell is the point you're trying to make here

Gold stake being the standard notwithstanding

[minor portal]

reroll for temperance trust

[potent tree]

no there's one more, but i only oneshot blinds if i have a glass card in play

[crystal field]

these standard packs pmo

[lunar zealot]

do you think endless mode is just 'pray you don't get plant: the game'

[crystal field]

dw about my build

[lunar zealot]

you control the actions you do

[potent tree]

and VV i'd likely need 2 glass cards (which i have but might lose if i play big blind idk)

[jagged cliff]

I was just wondering, nothing more

[lunar zealot]

I would take stone card here

[minor portal]

looks like your options are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

[lunar zealot]

Stone card is good but stone card is better for this build

though you could also take stone card over stone card

[pliant jewel]

it's not "don't play face card builds because the plant exists", it's "when you play face card builds, keep the plant in mind and come up with a way to not die to it if it appears"

[lunar zealot]

If only you got stone card and not stone card though

[cloud sinew]

red card value

[jagged cliff]

It's not like I'm always going face cards or always going whatever or if I never have a back up plan

[cloud sinew]

if you're in endless then you're running face cards more often than not

[jagged cliff]

Also love a good hack build for endless

Especially since, the plant

[cloud sinew]

also there is no back-up plan for endless, basically

[crystal field]

do you think im stupid or

[cloud sinew]

no? I'm just commenting

[lunar zealot]

No i think she was joking

[cloud sinew]

don't read into my messages that much lol

[lament hornet]

Any tips for magic deck? I can't believe how hard I'm struggling it's one of my last gold stakes

[lunar zealot]

obviously you take stone card

Or stone card

or sometimes even stone card

it depends

[lament hornet]

Might just be that I didn't sleep last night and am playing bad

[potent tree]

temp clutch up

[white zodiac]

crystal ball is nice for consumable blocking

[cloud sinew]

you have 3 consumable slots which makes blocking consumables from appearing even more effective. you can make ideal planets and tarots appear significantly more often

I love crystal ball

[potent tree]

do i sell abstract or devious here btw

i'm keeping egg incase i find another temp

[lament hornet]

Thank you all will consider blocking more next run

[cloud sinew]

something that is very fun to optimise is blocking with shop slots too, which is another thing that is talked about even less so than blocking with your consumable slots

[white zodiac]

as for early fools you can go with
certain planets (pairs/straights), emperors, hermit, temperance, lucky, gold, most of the general stuff for you to speed up econ/value gen

[hybrid tendon]

Devious

[cloud sinew]

rolling before taking the packs so that I have better odds of finding an ideal planet/tarot, etc

[buoyant fog]

new genre idea: existential R&B

Its like regular R&B but the singer is having a crises about the meaning of life or something

[white zodiac]

if you wanna have some skipping fun, i personally think charm tag is one of the skips you can be fine with skipping ante 1 if you want like a breath of fresh air

[cloud sinew]

yeah charm tag isnt that bad of a skip on magic even if it is worse overall imo

[hearty warren]

shop blocking is really useful after a priestess

[white zodiac]

it saves like 30 seconds

ig

[hearty warren]

(or emperor)

[potent tree]

fun straights run but i'm not gonna stick with it. gotta get those stickers fast

[spring dragon]

Localthunk needs to check the files and see if bloodstone is actually "1 in 2"

It never hits

Meanwhile the wheel bossblind cards are constantly drawn face down

Glass always breaks

[cloud sinew]

something that I've started doing as an optimisation is waiting to use a priestess until I'm in a planet pack as if the pack has the planet I want then I'll just take it, otherwise I'll open the priestess inside the pack for even higher odds of getting my ideal planet

[jagged cliff]

Unless you want it to ofc

[cloud sinew]

this is especially important for mega celestials

[tranquil cargo]

it is, the code is fairly straightforward (kind of)

[spring dragon]

My ass

[cloud sinew]

it is

[crystal field]

do i have a chance in endless?

[unreal iron]

consumable blocking my beloved

[cloud sinew]

I love consumable blocking

[hearty warren]

this means if you hold a priestess sometimes you want to go arcanas before celestials because the priestess itself is a blocker 🤔

[unreal mortar]

I found a negative eternal dna but I didn’t have enough money for it so now I’m mad

[cloud sinew]

magic my beloved nebula my hatred

[hearty warren]

lilo you're cooking

[cloud sinew]

:3

[unreal iron]

:3

[cloud sinew]

also the order you take packs with hallucination matters so much

but depends on how many slots you have free

like, if I have one slot free I'm going into the arcana over anything else first

[hearty warren]

do arcana pack pulls block hallucination generations

[cloud sinew]

if I have two or more I'm going into other packs before the arcana

[cloud sinew]

yes

[hearty warren]

holy shit imagine pack ordering offsetting your hallucination queue by 5

[unreal iron]

the humble suit changers:

instead of hanged man fool or something crazy like that

[cloud sinew]

another thing is that like

[unreal iron]

its a possibility

[cloud sinew]

you don't need to sell consumables right away, if at all

[hearty warren]

i actually never thought about priestessing after a dud celestial

[cloud sinew]

if you don't need the money for interest or to buy something and it's something you don't want to appear, then don't sell it

[hearty warren]

you can get red card value or just some other planet upgrade concurrently

[cloud sinew]

keeping consumables between shops is another optimisation that I don't see enough

[lavish compass]

....

[hearty warren]

constellation value 🤯

[buoyant fog]

Thing you can say if you're a blood sucking insect with poor grammar or if you're a redneck who recently lost a loved one:
I miss skeeter

[white zodiac]

when you have ample money to spend and idle consumable slots, you can preemptively buy 2-3 planets, or 1-2 with priestess, roll for a planet you want to block in shop, and then open celestial packs. when you open jumbo/mega celestial packs, you’re guaranteed to hit the planet that you want with crystal ball. extremely likely without.

same can be applied to tarots although it’s more or less not as guaranteed though still likely to get rewarded. i sometimes hold useless tarots like judgement or lovers or sun or something while rolling in shop and packs and sometimes you can get rewarded in other ways like campfire, constellation, fortune teller, etc

[cloud sinew]

or if you are a mitski eater

[unreal iron]

speaking about consumables i should probably mention this? telescope works like showman in the way that it disables the check if you have the planet card that you most played in your slots
ie if you have a mercury up there and open a celestial pack with telescope you still get a mercury :3

[cloud sinew]

yep

[round monolith]

Hey I'm kinda new to the scene of this game but I need some advice. Who do I replace here with what? Seriously I'm at a loss at what to do

[cloud sinew]

also the order you take planets in mega celestials / slots + packs etc matters a lot because of fool

[white zodiac]

when album drop

[cloud sinew]

take the ideal planet last

[wintry ice]

pareidolia with banana or todd

[vale shale]

Always skip charm tag ante 1

[unreal iron]

priestess soul 🤤

[cloud sinew]

I would drop Shoot the Moon for Todd

[white zodiac]

suit change before adding enhancements is my motto

[vale shale]

🤑 🤑 🤑 🤑 🤑 🤑

Holy pull

[hearty warren]

+1, and sometimes skipping a bad pack is better for fool value especially if you're past ante 4 and a level 2 flush doesn't do anything

[unreal iron]

just win

[round monolith]

Who's shoot the moon?

[cloud sinew]

the queen joker

[white zodiac]

far left

[unreal iron]

queen looking joker

[round monolith]

Oh thanx

[cloud sinew]

Yorick A1 is such a vibe

[unreal iron]

imagine not knowing the joker names by heart

not a true balatro fan

[white zodiac]

future questions make sure to uncrop

[hearty warren]

stm is funny

[unreal iron]

💔

[spring dragon]

Can we replace seals?

[cloud sinew]

yes

[unreal iron]

NO SEALS ARE SO COOL

[white zodiac]

[unreal iron]

theres so many kinds of seals and theyre all so cute

you cant replace them

[round monolith]

Sorry about that 😅

[spring dragon]

Just in case yall don't understand what I'm asking, like if I had a purp seal could I replace that for a red seal?

[cloud sinew]

yes you can

[hearty warren]

shot the moon so much it's swiss cheese

[spring dragon]

Cool

[unreal iron]

yeah you can do that

[white zodiac]

all good, just more context to ensure no information is lost

[unreal iron]

dont see a good reason why you'd want to tho

more seals the better

maybe unless you have dna or something

[white zodiac]

gru was left with pebbles

[hearty warren]

isn't it a naneinf run thing to override purples with red late game

[white zodiac]

yeah

[unreal iron]

yeah but thats naneinf

[white zodiac]

ideally that’s what you want

[unreal iron]

who cares about that

[hearty warren]

idk i'm just naming an application

[white zodiac]

but in general runs i just keep purples

maybe put some glass on them

[hearty warren]

it's possible to override seals but suboptimal 99% of the time

[white zodiac]

or stone depending on what suit or rank i put them on

[buoyant fog]

naneinf? more like I'll call my nan if she has some cookies AYOOO

[unreal iron]

if next update a spectral equivalent to fool gets added its gonna change spectral packs forever

yeah just copy a soul

or an immolate

[round monolith]

I'll keep that in mind for next time. Also, follow up question, you think I should replace crafty with either banana or splash? Crafty's holographic btw

[cloud sinew]

I don't see people making their face cards stone enough when running RTB

[low sorrel]

I accidentally sold my legendary joker 🫥

[unreal iron]

i'd drop pareidolia for banana but it can work with odd todd and sock

so dropping shoot the moon is fine

[white zodiac]

not sure how much you’re scoring from a different viewpoint but banana can be a decent short term replacement if you’re not at risk of beating the score requirement

[unreal iron]

if you go with this just prepare for the

[buoyant fog]

Homophobic joker, having blueprint and brainstorm in joker slots at the same time instantly loses run

[cloud sinew]

can score them without resetting bus, it's chips which helps lobotomy out a lot, and it adds stone joker which is very good for lobotomy given you're running pairs/hc and so you can afford to add a lot of stones

[white zodiac]

they’re usually on my jacks or queens

most of the time i strength my kings and jacks for the speculative dual purpose stm rtb run

[unreal iron]

i like doing faceless joker and purple seals with rtb

[left juniper]

Confession time: When I first got Canio I thought Strengthening from King to Ace would scale it because I destroyed a face card 🙃

[unreal iron]

it surprisingly works early on

[cloud sinew]

I usually put them on my queens first; jack's are the first destruction target (hanged man) and kings are the first strength target

[buoyant fog]

we all tried it at least once LOL

[round monolith]

Pareidolia is needed for sock to get more chips and mult off of all of the cards except for the face cards. Without it, my entire setup becomes weaker overall

[unreal iron]

holy optimization

[white zodiac]

this is optimal but i hate it

[cloud sinew]

day in the life of a balatro winstreaker

[hearty warren]

secret optimisation for double strengthing stone cards and recovering them

[cloud sinew]

strength optimisation is another thing that's pretty dynamic

[unreal iron]

just hang and death everything whats the point </3

[buoyant fog]

the only thing I optimize is my awesomeness

[white zodiac]

i do black suit double ranks

[cloud sinew]

like, 5->6's for sixth sense, 8->9s for c9

[buoyant fog]

Coke in a Pepsi glahss, I don't give a damn

[unreal iron]

oh shit i do that a ton actually

[dense wraith]

I've fallen victim to that again

[hearty warren]

it's like only putting gold on 9 of spades/clubs

[unreal iron]

but its very very speculative

[white zodiac]

i strength kings, jacks, and 7s

[unreal iron]

so i dont do it often enough

[left juniper]

I turn everything into Hearts so Bloodstone can have some fun

[white zodiac]

i’m a special one

[unreal iron]

i always do 10s and 7s

[white zodiac]

fun

[cloud sinew]

what cards you put your enhancements on is also an optimisation even if you don't have any direction

[unreal iron]

probably 7s because cloud 9 isnt far off and 8s are cracked

[terse vale]

I usually do 7s first cus of no synergies but I should probably anticipate a straight pivot

[hearty warren]

blackboard value!!!

[white zodiac]

held in hand ones on black suits

[lavish compass]

ancient or bloodstone would go sooooo hard here

[gray cobalt]

it turns from a casual seed reroll into a lock in real quick

[cloud sinew]

5-2 for hack, non-faces to avoid plant for important score enhancements, etc

[cloud sinew]

mhm

[white zodiac]

luckys on 8s or face cards

uhh

glass on 6s or 2s

stone on queens if i hate myself

[unreal iron]

gold on face cards, lucky/enhancements on seals preferably, or else just a pair i find

[white zodiac]

or red suits

[buoyant fog]

what if they added jimbo to fortnite

[cloud sinew]

black suits over red suits is the main one though

[hearty warren]

i think gold on black suits is a more important criterion than rank

[white zodiac]

wild cards on red suits

[buoyant fog]

Add all 150 jokers to fortnite NOW

[cloud sinew]

wilds on face cards for ride the bus

[white zodiac]

mythical tech

[cloud sinew]

see, I know ball

[unreal iron]

theres so SO much optimisation for a game that looks so simple

[hearty warren]

stone on black suits are marginally worse than average

[signal frigate]

Nah, put Stone cards for Trib

[unreal iron]

and its honestly crazy to me

[white zodiac]

i made a little list for each tarot optimization

[buoyant fog]

My favorite thing about Balatro is that there is no wrong way to play it

[signal frigate]

Alot of games do the same but none does it quite like Balatro

[cloud sinew]

this game has so much tech I love it so much

[signal frigate]

Skipping is the only wrong one

[buoyant fog]

wrong

[cloud sinew]

Isaac has like so much optimisation

[buoyant fog]

there is no wrong way

[white zodiac]

targets i look for when opening arcana packs or picking up from shop. target priority may vary depending on specific tarot card

fool - hold for desired value (skipping bad planets, red card, emperor looping)

magician - 8s for 8 ball/chad as a pseudo value engine, scored card death targets

priestess - use desired planets, undesired planets are blocked consumables

empress - (blocked consumable) odd numbered cards (A, 3, 5,)

emperor - treat as second worst econ tarot (gold > emperor > lucky)

hierophant - even numbered cards (10, 4)

lovers - (blocked consumable) (ranks 2-5 > J-K) red suits, highest density suit

chariot - black suits, queens (jacks/aces for other on hand scoring. aces susceptible to less bosses) high numbered ranks, blue seals > red seals

justice - red suits, 6s, end ranks (work from 2-5 > A-Q)

hermit - hold $20 dollars minimum on green if able. versatile fool target

wheel of fortune - estimated value: 12.5 chips

strength - ranks below death ranks, K, 10, 7, 4, prioritize using the same ranks if able

hanged men - end strings (2-4 > A-Q), same ranks if able

death - gold, blue seal/purple seal, value enhancements, red suit removal, end string rank removal, inflating middle ranks (8)

temperance - $13 estimated value w/ higher ceiling ($7/$5 w/discounts)

devil - death targets, gold, blue seal, queens, aces, black suits

tower - gold seals, kings, low ranks, red suits, cards with editions

star - (blocked consumable) different suit targets if able, undiscovered suit bosses/discovered diamond boss

moon - same suit targets if able, red suits, death targets, held in hand cards, rank with the most cards, odd ranks, undiscovered suit bosses/discovered club boss

sun - (blocked consumable) different suit targets if able, undiscovered suit bosses/discovered heart boss

judgement - $1-2 shop opportunity refund

world - same suit targets if able, red suits (first priority), held in hand cards, high ranks, even ranks, undiscovered suit bosses/discovered spade boss

[unreal iron]

no wonder i decided to c++ twice :3

[buoyant fog]

Holy hell

[unreal iron]

idc if it took me another 60 or so hours

[signal frigate]

I'm just glazing this game

[cloud sinew]

it's not glazing if it's true

[signal frigate]

You're on your way to beat my record

[buoyant fog]

I'm scared to play Issac tbh

Worried I will lose my entire life

[white zodiac]

oh i could’ve sworn that text wall would’ve been filtered

[signal frigate]

It's on the same vein of addictiveness as Balatro

[buoyant fog]

I already have 135 hours in Balatro

[hearty warren]

every teleport card/item used to make curse rooms cheaper,,

[signal frigate]

You can break both games beyond it's intended purpose

[buoyant fog]

I cannot have another game like that in my life rn

[cloud sinew]

I've lost more time to balatro than I have to Isaac
(~900 in Balatro, ~600 in Isaac)

[signal frigate]

Me when I infinitely reroll every goddamn item on my screen and get the power of literal God

[hearty warren]

i've picked up broken remote to enter a curse room as tlost in isaac before

[white zodiac]

over a thousand hours in balala only to be nowhere near half as much during my terraria arc

[potent tree]

can dagger still eat a perished joker?

[signal frigate]

My Terraria arc lasted over 9 years

[buoyant fog]

dang

[signal frigate]

1.2

[potent tree]

noted, thanks.

[gray cobalt]

not worth it?

[buoyant fog]

I've never seen a steam review woth over 300 hours in Balatro

[signal frigate]

I dunno why now is the time I've quit Terraria

[buoyant fog]

but in Issac, some mf be having 4000 HOURS????

Like bro go outside for gods sake

[white zodiac]

nothing big going on atm

[cloud sinew]

an optimisation that I haven't seen talked about much at all (because it's so niche) is holding a cola if there's two skips you want to take but you want to copy the 2nd one and not the 1st
(i.e boss reroll into economy tag)

[signal frigate]

You don't quite understand gamers then

[buoyant fog]

worth

[buoyant fog]

I hate gamers tbh

[signal frigate]

Everyone has their own fun

[buoyant fog]

Well not the reasonable ones

[signal frigate]

I don't touch grass but I draw and game

[white zodiac]

wow i can’t wait to use this when it appears and then just forget to use it

[cloud sinew]

I have done this TWICE in 900 hours

[buoyant fog]

See thats fine

I just mean like... you know the type I'm talking about

[signal frigate]

You wouldn't say that if you see my TF2 playtime

[signal frigate]

People just love videogames man

[cloud sinew]

rentals are definitely not optimised well by the vast majority of players though

[signal frigate]

I personally grew up playing this now obscure game called "Freefall Tournament"

[unreal iron]

whats your record

[signal frigate]

3

[white zodiac]

i try to early game when i have to two shot something or use multiple hands within the early antes with temporary support

[buoyant fog]

Fair enough LEL

[white zodiac]

before selling them

[cloud sinew]

like,

• taking non-eternal rentals for the shop (not you showman) so they can't appear
• taking non-eternal rental jokers into the blind on the off-chance they give value (unless they're detrimental in-round potentially, like andy or troub etc)

[white zodiac]

to meet interest threshold

[compact gazelle]

doesnt this boil down to the majority of players not playing gold stake

[cloud sinew]

no

[signal frigate]

Also, 4k hours is unironically not that big of a deal when I have friends with 5k hours across different accounts on games like Dota 2 and Destiny

[buoyant fog]

I like games, but I'm never that serious about them. Only ones I got hooked on was Castle Crashers, Spelunky (and Spelunkey 2) and inscryption

[unreal iron]

speculative jokers into rounds is so specific i do that so much early on

[white zodiac]

i think she’s specifically mentioning gs players not doing this often or take much thought into rental optimizing

[buoyant fog]

Dota 2 is atrocious

[compact gazelle]

gold stake players don't optimize rentals either huh

[cloud sinew]

if you're talking about people who have played the game ever, yes.
if you're talking about people who actively play the game, no.

[signal frigate]

Yet I love it

[cloud sinew]

not anywhere near as much as they should

[signal frigate]

It's horribly balanced

[cloud sinew]

most people are bad

[signal frigate]

And atrocious to play

[buoyant fog]

idk man, I think if all you wanna do is game, thats cool, but I personally feel like garbage when I game too much

[signal frigate]

But that's the charm of it

[buoyant fog]

only reason I game more recently is because I work 12 hour night shift now

[signal frigate]

It's so bad that it comes full circle to being good

[buoyant fog]

no time for going out when I wake up at 6pm every day

[white zodiac]

so dumb that it’s smart

[signal frigate]

That explains it

[buoyant fog]

especially since there is no night life in my state

everything closes at fucking 8pm bro its so dumb

[cloud sinew]

an optimisation I love is voucher timing

[signal frigate]

Being stunned for 40 goddamn seconds is the average Crowd Control spell in Dota 2

[white zodiac]

how are you not experiencing vitamin deficiency

[cloud sinew]

knowing when within the ante you should take the voucher

[buoyant fog]

Yeah Balatro is keeping me sane rn

[white zodiac]

discount moment

[cloud sinew]

I.e heiro at the end of the ante so you don't lose as much money from post hands

[buoyant fog]

I am experiencing several deficiencies LMAO

but its worth it, 27 bucks an hour plus mandatory overtime

[cloud sinew]

taking overstock after buying stuff in the shop slots so that you get a free additional reroll

[buoyant fog]

gotta save money somehow

[compact gazelle]

it's really fun when this comes into play in early antes and you have to decide between something that could be really good for this shop or passing on the odds to max interest next round

[white zodiac]

that one is a simple one ig

what’s the most like advanced voucher tech that’s useful

[compact gazelle]

it's definitely ante -1 trust

[white zodiac]

oh

of course

[compact gazelle]

THIS IS USEFUL AND HAS GAMEPLAY APPLICATIONS

[white zodiac]

the quick time event

[compact gazelle]

VERY YES

[cloud sinew]

uhhh

[white zodiac]

i can only think of discount after arcana for expected value with tarot blocking

[low sorrel]

Would it be crazy to sell yorick for the steel joker?

[heady narwhal]

not particularly technical but i think it's fun to optimize overstock timing

[white zodiac]

or buying both merchant vouchers for campfire but that’s kinda straightforward

[cloud sinew]

ohhhh it'll be D6 tag with reroll vouchers

[signal frigate]

Buying the shop then Overstock for free 10 dollar reroll

[wintry ice]

watching one of doc's more recent vids made me more confident in taking rentals

[signal frigate]

I've never been anxious taking them

[white zodiac]

i do this all the time when i can so idk it just became natural

[cloud sinew]

the reroll vouchers lower the cost of rerolls by a flat amount, so if you time the voucher you'll get even cheaper rerolls

[low sorrel]

Hes only 1x right now

[wintry ice]

yea i was meaning early rentals

[white zodiac]

did you watch the early madness rental vid

or the early midas mask eternal rental

[signal frigate]

That is fair

[buoyant fog]

buying discount and then purchasing something before the discount is applied

[wintry ice]

no

[wintry ice]

this one yeah

[white zodiac]

oh

fun

[wintry ice]

he left no space for xmult on black deck

extremely bold move

[white zodiac]

yeah midas i always take in any tag

[cloud sinew]

ohhh yk what

[white zodiac]

grabbing boots was a weird throw

[buoyant fog]

boots kinda ass ngl

[wintry ice]

well it wasn't like he needed to spend money anymore

[white zodiac]

we know

[buoyant fog]

should scale a little better imo

[wintry ice]

i think +3 would be fine

+4 sounds like a lot

[signal frigate]

Bootstraps is mid but not terrible imo

[white zodiac]

i was skeptical of it not clearing vv

[signal frigate]

It becomes way weaker in high stakes though

[wintry ice]

it's pretty bad

[buoyant fog]

Yeah, I agree with Vic that +3 would just be better tho

[heady narwhal]

i usually feel like if i lose more money from rental than i gain from interest/econ jokers i'm just fucked

[white zodiac]

whar

[signal frigate]

It should be, it's definitely on the weaker side

[heady narwhal]

i like +1 per $2 better

easier to math

[compact gazelle]

the worst part of bootstraps is that it somehow has a comparatively good rate when you look at hiero/empress or todd/steven
4 to 20 ratio to bull should be good right? and then it kinda just isn't

[white zodiac]

it’s essentially Jj but you have to hold your money and not see more of the shop

instead of spending it to get the same amount on average

[buoyant fog]

Yeah but for some reason bull is just way better

[unreal island]

hello balatbros

[buoyant fog]

odd todd is probably my fav chip joker

[heady narwhal]

i think it's because you've got more options for scaling +mult

[white zodiac]

bull doesn’t have the numbers problem and is chips

instead of mult

[unreal island]

theoretically its good but like

[buoyant fog]

honestly even with good econ I'd prefer even steven over boots

[unreal island]

you need to spend money to make money amirite

[heady narwhal]

chips jokers are underpowered by design but they're still useful because hand-agnostic builds are nice

[heavy hare]

chips are much less competitive yeah

[buoyant fog]

Chips are slept on man

[unreal island]

greatest pair build oat

[buoyant fog]

they're not just good for plasma

[junior horizon]

hand size drops to 4 after taking skip tag on the first blind of gold stake plasma?

[heavy hare]

😭

yeah best pair build mhm

[unreal island]

yeah mhm sure

[buoyant fog]

pair builds 💤 😴

just play high card

or better yet, 2 pair

2 pair is just a superior pair

[heavy hare]

i had level 44 on a pair before ante 8 boss because of four eternal burnt jokers

[heady narwhal]

not for winning

[heavy hare]

only fun pair build

[buoyant fog]

nuh uh

most of my wins are from 2 pair builds

[heady narwhal]

most of my wins are from pair builds

[buoyant fog]

2 of my 3 gold stake wins are from 2 pair builds

[compact gazelle]

pairs are like morphine
puts you to sleep but its so good for that and it totally works

[buoyant fog]

nuh uh

[heady narwhal]

like 70 of 80 on gold stake

estimate

[buoyant fog]

2 pairs are like Crack, its awesome and good for you and you should do it every day no matter what

[compact gazelle]

someone's favorite joker of all time is spare trousers huh

[signal frigate]

Pairs are shown to be consistently strong in gold stake

[buoyant fog]

you shoulda seen my tier list

it was at the very top

[signal frigate]

It allows alot of room for in hand effects, let's you build pretty much any build and easily spammable

It's very flexible

[compact gazelle]

spare trousers two tiers above blueprint in a special category

[buoyant fog]

YES

she gets it man

[compact gazelle]

you know what spare trousers are really good for?

pairs!

[buoyant fog]

🥀 nevermind

[compact gazelle]

scale trousers, scale runner, pivot to pair slop

easy win

[buoyant fog]

Why even pivot why not just stick to 2 pairs 😭

[white zodiac]

epic potato

[wintry ice]

if you level up two pair

[compact gazelle]

meanwhile me and my favorite chips joker is shortcut
my favorite mult joker is also shortcut

[wintry ice]

you can't play as many two pairs

[white zodiac]

why stick with it when i can be hand agnostic

[buoyant fog]

Brochacho Muchachalacho really said "epic potatoe" 😭

[last falcon]

oh brother, this guy STINKS

[wintry ice]

la batata epica

[buoyant fog]

hand agnosticism kinda based ngl

[heady narwhal]

i mean there's a tradeoff for scaling pair vs 2 pair on a trousers build
scaling 2 pair: you can't play enough of em and only scale trousers once or twice per round
scaling pair: you have to play more scoring hands as antes increase and only scale trousers once or twice per round

[white zodiac]

you really just said
whatever you just said

[buoyant fog]

foil is good brah

[last falcon]

check round/ante

[heady narwhal]

the same thing doesn't really happen with runner because you're only drawing one straight anyways

[last falcon]

first shop and cannot buy 🙁

[buoyant fog]

skill issue (/j)

[compact gazelle]

i usually end up leveling 2p and sticking with it cause it's easy on the mind

[heady narwhal]

yeah

[buoyant fog]

I need to remember to use tone indicators more ofteb

probably save me a lot of arguing in this chat LMAOOO

[white zodiac]

i usually lvl up 2 pair cause i play black deck too much

[compact gazelle]

queen brainstorm, blueprint's underappreciated little sister

[last falcon]

i mean i knew you were joking

[signal frigate]

Trousers is as strong as red card in terms of scaling, I can see why it'd be someone's favorite

[buoyant fog]

Guys heres a /srs opinion: shoot the moon kinda underrated

[signal frigate]

I don't think it is since it really is pretty strong

[buoyant fog]

Yeah but many times in the past I have made people very mad (specifically about obelisk rage bait LMAO)

[signal frigate]

It's often favored over Baron

[buoyant fog]

Fr?

[signal frigate]

Yeah, it's more consistent and easy to work around than baron

[buoyant fog]

Cause I feel like Baron gets glazed so much

[last falcon]

i dislike that it's ONLY the leftmost

[signal frigate]

STM starts out very strong

[wintry ice]

stm is decent

[white zodiac]

the two mainstream content creators have a distaste for stm for some reason

[wintry ice]

it's like

pseudo scaling mult

[signal frigate]

But baron needs alot of kings for that multiplier to go off

[compact gazelle]

shoot the moon is insane on paper
+13 is a big number of mults
in practice it's still very good

[heady narwhal]

stm is my favorite joker

[buoyant fog]

It has won me plenty of runs

[signal frigate]

STM just exists and immediately kills the first few antes

[heady narwhal]

chat how does bull stack up against other scaling chips

[wintry ice]

it gets into all of the flaws that on-scoring builds have though

[heady narwhal]

i feel like i'd rather have a squimbo usually tbh

[buoyant fog]

Its better than square LOL

[wintry ice]

so it's worse than jokers that judt

[compact gazelle]

it's reliable with a bit of thinning
(baron sucks btw)

[wintry ice]

scale

[last falcon]

i won a gold stake run with shop one eternal stm and the later got an eternal baron

[signal frigate]

Get yourself an STM and ONE SMIDGE of xmult (preferably Steel Queens) then yeah, you got yourself a run

[bleak seal]

Just got a canio and I have decent econ going so hopefully this run is free

[last falcon]

and it just went to the moon (literally)

[white zodiac]

about third or fourth best if i take stickers into account

[buoyant fog]

actually so based

[wintry ice]

similar enough to square imo

not being able to spend as much hurts

[signal frigate]

It's fact, Baron sucks ass in ante 8 runs

[white zodiac]

being perishable stinks

[wintry ice]

i like to put steels on numbered cards

[signal frigate]

It's anxiety inducing and takes alot of risk to work

[wintry ice]

because of plant

[compact gazelle]

it's fine but i will always enjoy runner more

[signal frigate]

I do that too

[buoyant fog]

square has gotta be worst chips joker

[heady narwhal]

which ones are number 1 and 2 and maybe 3

[signal frigate]

It's basically every card whenever I have stm

[signal frigate]

Castle exists

It's slower than almost all chip jokers

[last falcon]

i think its only good with stm

[heady narwhal]

castle is great what are you talking about

[wintry ice]

?

[compact gazelle]

squares extra boring cause you can't do the fun hands until you pivot
works great tho

[buoyant fog]

at one point I wouldve agreed with you but after using it more, Castle is better

[heady narwhal]

uou should be dunking on hiker and stone joker instead smh

[buoyant fog]

castle is actually pretty okay

[white zodiac]

wee, runner, square/castle

[wintry ice]

(bad take)
(responds with arguably just as bad take)

[signal frigate]

For a scaling chips joker at least, I've found less success on it than stuff like Runner

[heady narwhal]

than the second best scaling chips

[signal frigate]

It feels slower than the rest

[wintry ice]

my list is wee > runner >= castle > square = bull

[exotic orchid]

Wee best

[signal frigate]

Bull is in a weird spot for me

[signal frigate]

Wee is definitely the best

It's absurdly strong

[wintry ice]

it's average scaling at base is the same as square

[white zodiac]

it practically scales relative to square with a higher variance higher ceiling factor

[heady narwhal]

on an average pairs build, runner and square and castle are going to get to about the same number (+200ish)

[compact gazelle]

imo the best chips joker is shortcut

[heady narwhal]

runner and castle can go a lot faster if you get things like handsize, discards, suitfixing

, shortcut

[wintry ice]

yea runner ans castle have a higher ceiling

[night turret]

First gold run btw, and the game wants to pull this shit

[wintry ice]

but their floor is similar enough

[last falcon]

okay i have like won gold stake runs but i am technically newer, are chips really that important outside of cheesing with plasma? like i found that planets USUALLY take care of everything when it comes to chips, and xmult is just so much better than scaling chips

[signal frigate]

Actually I do put it above Square just because I don't like Square lmao

[white zodiac]

[compact gazelle]

meanwhile wee joker forgot there was a ceiling

[last falcon]

LMAO I JUST POSTED THIS EXACT FUCKING SCREENSHOT

[white zodiac]

bruh

[wintry ice]

my beloved

[night turret]

No way

[last falcon]

literally posted this 10 minutes ago

[gray cobalt]

aw, blackhole doesn't increase satelite
wdym it's not a planet >:(

[signal frigate]

Both mult and chips are important, if you want your number to go bigger, get a balance of both

[night turret]

Gang it’s a black hole

[glass creek]

It's a spectral card

[night turret]

Why is it Shity blueprint

[signal frigate]

Sometimes, your mult is as good as your chips

[last falcon]

because i dont like brainstorm

[compact gazelle]

none of the dwarf exoplanets are planets either then huh

[heady narwhal]

scaling chips are nice to have if you don't get any blue seals. being hand-agnostic opens you up to a lot of possibilities, helps you circumvent boss blinds, lets you use obelisk without any thought required, etc etc

[signal frigate]

It's the exact same joker with a slightly different kink

[night turret]

Read what you just typed

Very slowly

[white zodiac]

finding multiple reliable x mult is often harder on average than finding multiple planets that offer chips and a couple chip jokers

[signal frigate]

Both Brainstorm and Blueprint are as good as your best joker

What's not to like?

[last falcon]

i dont like that it has to be leftmost

[compact gazelle]

ok.
i see nothing wrong with it so im gonna hand it back to you

[last falcon]

i like blueprints ability to be any of them on the roster

[signal frigate]

I don't think that matters but okay, go off man

[white zodiac]

early game convenience

[last falcon]

it's more just a ME thing

[signal frigate]

But.... That's the same with Brainstorm

[night turret]

Exoplanet

[last falcon]

not really

[signal frigate]

Brainstorm can copy most jokers, wdym?

[heady narwhal]

brainstorm is significantly worse because you can't copy xmult usually

[night turret]

Anyway, I need to hit ante 12 sooner or later

[compact gazelle]

yeah um
dwarf planets are not planets
idk man bring that one up to the iau i don't exactly get it either

[night turret]

I hope plasma can give me this

[buoyant fog]

Brainstorm is unfortunate to get over Blueprint only if the joker you wanna copy is xmult

[last falcon]

THIS

cannot copy xmult

which just sucks ass

so i named it shitty blueprint

because i like xmult

[night turret]

Not exactly a “planet” but it’s still a ball of mass
Black hole just suck in light

[heady narwhal]

i think it makes it a more interesting joket

[signal frigate]

While that is true, you could just put it next to the joker you're copying

[compact gazelle]

a black hole is... also a ball of mass?

[heady narwhal]

blueprint is pretty close to a free win

[buoyant fog]

But Brainstorm is still one of the best jokers in the game

[signal frigate]

Copying +mult is usually enough

[last falcon]

good argument, however i still think it isn't as good as its counterpart

[white zodiac]

brainstorm can be replaced with a second x mult joker

[signal frigate]

Since it activates left to right

[last falcon]

thumbs down emoji

[buoyant fog]

depends on what stake sometimes

[night turret]

Okay, a ball of mass that wouldn’t kill you if you go by it

[compact gazelle]

brainstorm is blueprint if blueprint had the mentality of a middle school student trying to disobey instructions without getting in trouble

[buoyant fog]

but you can also have xmult on far left and stick BS to far right and it still works pretty well, its just not totally optimal

[signal frigate]

Brainstorm is a germaphobe who doesn't like being near others

[compact gazelle]

yeah i can accept that

[last falcon]

i would only have x mult on far left if i was trying not to win fast for scaling

[heady narwhal]

i feel like i would die if i got anywhere near a planet that isn't earth. from tje lack of oxygen and what have you

[bleak seal]

I died to wall. I hate the wall. Canio got 4x tho. mostly lost cus I could not find a singular good joker besides canio

[night turret]

It’s why they give you the side eye

[buoyant fog]

well if your hands are leveled up enough having it pinned to the left is still pretty decent

[compact gazelle]

must suck to have an oxygen based anatomy huh

[signal frigate]

Brainstorm at the end of the day, still copies most jokers

It's still really damn good

[night turret]

Let’s assume you are a astronaut

[last falcon]

yes but usually it scores less than copying + mult before xmult

[restive plover]

silliest blue stake win alert

[heady narwhal]

what's even the point if i can't copy showman

[night turret]

It’s like the moon, you can land on them, but a black hole will just suck you in and shred you to pieces

[heady narwhal]

i would probably die of falling depending on the definition of "near"

[signal frigate]

Imma erm actually you and say it actually STRETCHES you, it doesn't shred you

[last falcon]

i never said it was bad, i just dont think its as good as blueprint

[compact gazelle]

damn good point
i gotta stop instinctively taking brainstorm when i see it, for the prospective future showman

[signal frigate]

Being sucked into a black hole will feel like being stretched for eternity

Because black holes are so dense, they literally bend space and time around them

You'll feel agony for years even though it happens simultaneously on the outside

[compact gazelle]

yup
and also you're dead automatically

[signal frigate]

I've been called a Black Hole once

[compact gazelle]

aren't black holes fun, class?

[heady narwhal]

i imagine the capacity to like. feel anything. would be severely harmed by all the spacetime things

[signal frigate]

You probably won't feel anything

[compact gazelle]

ok so i can think of like
two things that this could have been prompted by

[signal frigate]

You're immediately dead

[signal frigate]

Because I'm dense as fuck.

[compact gazelle]

ok so it's that one
the other thing i had in mind was like... a low quality fat joke

[signal frigate]

I'm questioning if your pfp is Nekopara or if I'm tripping

[compact gazelle]

no worries im also dense beyond belief

[signal frigate]

I'm glad I'm not alone

[compact gazelle]

yknow i don't actually know what it is
i looked something up and picked a cute drawing i liked and this has been my pfp for years

[white zodiac]

yeah i also convert three cards to hearts

[signal frigate]

I make my pfp's so I can relate to some extent

This one's been my pfp for a year now

I'm planning to remake it

[buoyant fog]

we're balatro guys, of course we're all kinda stupid

[signal frigate]

I love dying to needle because I'm trying to hard to scale something

[last falcon]

or that one that allows one hand type and trying to get DNA/Six senth value

[pine swift]

Ante 1 bt but economy fucked me up 😭😭😭😭

[lavish compass]

what a silly build

[last falcon]

this made me smile

[lavish compass]

that is nice to hear yappatron2500_03946 :)

[night turret]

It’s shreds your reality

And that’s as much as I expected it to go

[night turret]

Rip brainstorm in a couple of rounds

[wicked sable]

WHY IS IT NEVER ON GOLD STAKE

[wintry ice]

because baron rarely works on gold stake

[white zodiac]

you would be found dead in an alleyway if the steak was gold

[wicked sable]

pffftftpffpfprpfpptf

[wintry ice]

most useful showman

[heady narwhal]

if it was gold stake you would take the runner and win

[restive plover]

lmfao

[buoyant fog]

✈️

[restive plover]

airplane

[spare lake]

can someone help I just did everything to get C+ but I haven't gotten the achievement?

[buoyant fog]

THEY HIT THE PENTAGON 😭 😭 😭 😭

LILE TURN ON THE TV

[restive plover]

OH

[bleak seal]

Bro I hate the needle so much

[restive plover]

i understood that reference gif

[bleak seal]

I JUST WANT TO USE CARD SHARP

[restive plover]

doesn't matter what channel...

[lunar zealot]

Ello ello

[lunar zealot]

Counterpoint

Now there are two answers to this

Either

a) baron is actually good on gold stake

or

[marsh dove]

The rarely in question

[lunar zealot]

b) im just the goat

[white zodiac]

acorn

[wintry ice]

c) none of the above

[marsh dove]

d) all of the above

🔥

[lunar zealot]

:(

[white zodiac]

d) nuts

[lunar zealot]

Meow

[restive plover]

two days in a row on balatrodle i guess a different joker that could identically have been the answer first

man

[marsh dove]

It almost works

[restive plover]

immediately getting an extinct banana the round you buy it is such a great and sad feeling

my banana 😢 but better banana...

[bleak seal]

Let's goooo

Yorick

Free win

[potent tree]

damn i lost another good 2pair run on ante 6...

ends my winstreak of 3

[last falcon]

depends how early you are in the run tbh

ante 1-2 it sucks

later antes its great

(when banana extinct)

[lunar zealot]

Foil banana is such a sad thing

if it goes extinct you die instantly

[restive plover]

yeah it was ante 1 💔
survived but Man

[last falcon]

f

[buoyant fog]

Baron is doodooshitfartass

[lunar zealot]

wrong

i won ONE run with it

That means it's good

that's how it works

[buoyant fog]

this is fake news

[last falcon]

i also won one run with it

[buoyant fog]

Stop the count

[last falcon]

lowk stm + baron synergy is crazy

like i had a really fun run

[restive plover]

forbidden potassium </3

i love vagabound shout out vagabound

bond

i can spell

[last falcon]

okay wait is vagabond a hated joker

like do people not like it

i personally love vagabond like pre ante 6

and then i need to actually start doing econ

but i've also heard people complain

[buoyant fog]

Baron + ride the bus

then ignore Baron and sell it for Droll joker

[restive plover]

i'm not sure really i've never really seen vagabond hate

unlike some cards *idol voice*

[buoyant fog]

You havent watched an NL Balatro vod then

[marsh dove]

Oh I’ve seen it

[lunar zealot]

Vagabond is one of the better jokers

[marsh dove]

Reddit doesn’t know how to play Balatro

[last falcon]

i've seen a bunch of people in chats hate on streamers for taking vaga

[lunar zealot]

you trade econ stability for creative mode

[marsh dove]

So if you go on there you can watch them complain about all the best jokers

[lunar zealot]

which is a great trade btw

If you need econ make gold cards and use temperanci

[restive plover]

i think the only times i've seen egg play balatro were when he'd make the Worst Plays Imaginable

[last falcon]

literally trade econ temporarily for extremely fast deck fixing

[buoyant fog]

I hate all redditors

[marsh dove]

(Ahem obelisk)

[lunar zealot]

Strimmer you skipped baron

[marsh dove]

Lmao

[buoyant fog]

Look I hate backseating, but sometimes he does the dumbest shit. But he is a pretty good player

[last falcon]

strimmer you need to put all the blueprints onto baron and not mime

[bleak seal]

Yorick + Andrew + photochad + smiley face (hes there for the ride) = ez

[marsh dove]

Strummer wdym no ante 1 speculative dna ?

[bleak seal]

HOLY FUCK

[buoyant fog]

but also Youtube comments do not know what the fuck they are talking about

[last falcon]

strimmer you need the oops all 6

[bleak seal]

ANOTHER SOUL

THATS MY 4TH SOUL TODAY

AND THE 2ND SOUL THIS SEED

[last falcon]

80% of balatro players have never played the game

[bleak seal]

Bye smiley

[marsh dove]

Me when I’m a midwife

[restive plover]

i don't think i can comprehend how bad youtube is at balatro reddit is already so,

[bleak seal]

Hi chigoat

[buoyant fog]

"bro why didnt he play 4 cards he has square joker"
on the psychic.....

[restive plover]

but yeah i just haven't seen nl play balatro as much as other roguelites

[last falcon]

"are you gonna take your gay little screenshot and run to twitter with this"

sorry you made a funny i just thought of that

[marsh dove]

I’ve seen full YouTube comment threads of people arguing triboulet is a better joker generally than Canio

These people are insane

[restive plover]

i have four dollars in balatro. i buy an arcana pack. i use the hermit. i have four dollars in balatro

[last falcon]

sorry, that was wrong. 80% of balatro FANS have never played the game

[marsh dove]

I have four dollars in Balatro. I buy an arcana pack, have 0 dollars, use hermit. I have 0 dollars in Balatro

Profit

[restive plover]

oh shit i meant six dollars

[marsh dove]

W fortune teller value

[restive plover]

LOL

[buoyant fog]

every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes

or however the meme goes

[marsh dove]

Together we can stop this

[bleak seal]

True

[buoyant fog]

90% of other world leaders be like

(they want the gold and oil)

[last falcon]

so many people have only watched funni strimmer get high scores with jokers that are only good for late game builds, and then they just thik that they are the best jokers ever

[marsh dove]

I think also people have played

[restive plover]

baron voice

[marsh dove]

And are just fully ass

[buoyant fog]

Dude people HATE watching someone actually try to scale a scaling joker

[marsh dove]

Like the people with C+++++++++ or whatever who play flushes mainly

It’s wild

[last falcon]

like yes baron and mime are good, yes trib and idol are good, but they're so fucking hard to get online, espescially on high stakes

[buoyant fog]

"bro stop playing high card" BRO HAS GREEN JOKER WHAT ARE YOU ON ABOUT?!?!?!

[restive plover]

groker is my fav joker

[bleak seal]

Hey guys

[last falcon]

i don't like the way you said that

it's grimbo

[marsh dove]

Baron isn’t good

[bleak seal]

Andrew goes for blueprint right

[marsh dove]

In general it’s so bad

Mime can be good bc Econ as well as scoring

[buoyant fog]

up all night groking it

[last falcon]

i mean it's good for funni high number

if you have red seal steel kings

[marsh dove]

Yeah

I think this is the source of most Balatro arguments lmao

[buoyant fog]

Mime is a really good joker, but Baron mime is overrated as hell

[last falcon]

LMAO

[restive plover]

groker and grimbo are dating 💚

[marsh dove]

Some people saying it’s good bc good endless

Some people saying it’s ass bc ass pre endless

Both are correct

[buoyant fog]

Aliens discussing the tea with each other:

[last falcon]

whap uhpwahu aiwphu wahapw groker dating grimbo ahfiufhwaphufasd

[marsh dove]

How I look at bro when he seems 2% greener than yesterday meme here

[buoyant fog]

This is just that stupid Northernlion German Rainbow sprinkles joke 😭 😭 😭

[marsh dove]

Grimbo committed some real atrocities back in the day

[last falcon]

i was thinking more the two chinese people speaking in chinese and say in fluent english "lesbian agenda" and then the other one with the alien that says the f slur

but sure

[wintry ice]

whuh

[last falcon]

have you enver seen that

[wintry ice]

this is oddly specific

[last falcon]

am i too chronically online for you people

[wintry ice]

almost suspiciously so

[marsh dove]

Or the one where 2 people are talking in Arabic then one says “parallel parking inshallah”

This meme format is good