🕹・game-discussion

[tender hill]

This is a completely unrelated screenshot

[fading cobalt]

Well it does help with knowing where to place the joker

[wintry ice]

odd oversight

[fading cobalt]

Is that ultrakill?

[manic talon]

yea but it doesnt break the game

[tender hill]

Yes

[cloud sinew]

red deck being the worst deck against acorn sometimes is funny

[fading cobalt]

I forgot what acorn does

[manic talon]

theres like 3 bugs/oversight thats related to acorn, which is funny

[cloud sinew]

flips and shuffles jokers

[cloud sinew]

there are like 10

some are platform specific too lol

[fading cobalt]

Why red deck??

[cloud sinew]

the default backing is red deck, which means red deck doesn't get any additional information from copied jokers

[indigo elbow]

this build is stressful as fuck. Barley beating each blind by a 100 for the whole game D:

[wintry ice]

i sometimes wish that space joker scaled constellation

[tender hill]

what do i do

[fading cobalt]

Oh lmfao

[wintry ice]

though that also would mean burnt joker would

and that sounds like a scary combination

[fading cobalt]

No xmult boy

[manic talon]

shouldve copied egg so it increases in sell value more (lie)

[cloud sinew]

gift card should be compatible

[indigo elbow]

only 4 slots boy

[fading cobalt]

Burnt joker should be nerfed similar to how Yorick and Loyalty behave

[alpine halo]

i mean you can do straight flushes aswell if youd like

[fading cobalt]

Oh

[indigo elbow]

couldnt find a multi anyways

[tender hill]

What do i do bruh

[cloud sinew]

I don't think burnt needs a nerf

[icy hollow]

Imo everything should be compatible. Weird to have incompatible ones

[manic talon]

burnt already got "nerfed" that shit was an uncommon and like 6 dollars iirc

[alpine halo]

bluntstone

[cloud sinew]

how would you make showman compatible, splash compatible, etc

some things can't be compatible because their effects are either on or off

[wintry ice]

burnt is fine as a rare

[cloud sinew]

not stackable

[wintry ice]

given that it's usually forced into boosting the slower scaling hands

[icy hollow]

yea. i think thats fine to have it compatible but just not do anything. instead of having an actual classification of "incompatible"

[tender hill]

Is obelisk good

[icy hollow]

that also applied to stuff like oa6

[jagged valve]

Do I do it

[icy hollow]

just make it copy as if you had 2 of the joker

[jagged valve]

Oh ffs

[cedar shell]

blueprint being able to increase its own sell value by copying egg(?)

[manic talon]

merry andy being incompatible while burglar gets to be copyable is some twisted joke made by

[indigo elbow]

well there goes any interest i had in 100%' ing this .....none of yall actually have this, right?

[cedar shell]

look at the username

[cloud sinew]

A lot of us have this

I have done it twice

[icy hollow]

same

[jagged valve]

Over photo?

[cedar shell]

this is a server dedicated to balatro

you're gonna find people who play balatro a lot

[cloud sinew]

fork found in kitchen

ITS A COW FARM

THERES GONNA BE COWS OUTSIDE

[icy hollow]

tbf someone just posted ultrakill 🔥

[manic talon]

Theres too many cows smh

[cedar shell]

the know me as the

[wintry ice]

erm

erm...

[cedar shell]

why is there a fork in your kitchen

[wintry ice]

how do i tell someone that i have negative life

[fervent wolf]

Synergy:

[fading cobalt]

I've gotten C++ zero more times than most people here so in a way I'm pretty good aswell

[cloud sinew]

time to post my once in 1000 hours screenshot

[cloud sinew]

that's where forks go

[cedar shell]

who's gonna tell burglar to get the fuck out

[fading cobalt]

Wait a minute..

[manic talon]

baron pog baron

[jagged valve]

Did this

[fading cobalt]

Burglar get the FUCK out

[fervent wolf]

Doing the eternal challenge!

[cloud sinew]

unironic baron build

[wintry ice]

@serene forge why are you cooking

[jagged valve]

Blueprint on Chad or Blood?

[fading cobalt]

Ankh chaos

[cloud sinew]

use balatro calculator

[jagged valve]

Bluestorm ig

[jagged valve]

Where

[cloud sinew]

Google

[cedar shell]

balatro calculator

[jagged valve]

Wow

[cloud sinew]

https://efhiii.github.io/balatro-calculator/

[cloud sinew]

it's the first thing that comes up dawg

[cedar shell]

bro you know what's crazy

[cloud sinew]

it's not hard to find

[wintry ice]

would it be worth it to sacrifice pair scaling for cat

my pairs are lvl 27 so like

probably

[cloud sinew]

yes

[languid pecan]

hi chad

[cloud sinew]

lvl 27 pairs also +51 red +240 square

[languid pecan]

im actually not gonna take it on the hopes it gets the heck off of my #1 joker stats

[cloud sinew]

lmao

[languid pecan]

red card just needs less than 100 rounds...

more*

actually 150 rounds

[tender hill]

Where the gay hands at i keep getting the straights

[indigo elbow]

yall are crazy. I would never have the patience to get a gold sticker on all the jokers 😭 . Is there a common short cut most people use, like the double tag deck into negatives?

[cedar shell]

used to be a "chad truther" and it STILL won't get the fuck of my top 10

[icy hollow]

ngl. just playing gold stake often overtime will get you pretty close

then once youre kinda close (like 100 stickered), then u can just fill out the rest by actively going for them

[indigo elbow]

....what counts as often

[icy hollow]

and if youre actively going for a c++, you can do it in like under 40 wins

[languid pecan]

who needs red card mult anyways

[icy hollow]

gold stake often?

[icy hollow]

i got my 2nd c++ in 36 wins

which doesnt take close to 1k hours lol

[languid pecan]

easiest run of my life

holy

[tender hill]

Whats the seed

[languid pecan]

W3TEJXMX

[tender hill]

Thx

[languid pecan]

pretty easy run

[cloud sinew]

1.2k hours and no C++ just means you haven't bothered to go for C++ more than anything else

some jokers just aren't gonna be won with at gold stake, naturally

[languid pecan]

seance

[cloud sinew]

I.e invisible or luchador

[restive plover]

negative riff raff on black deck 🙏

[wintry ice]

insane setup

[alpine halo]

can i get some fucking xmult please jeez 2x aint gonna cut it for long

[indigo elbow]

ya, im just joking. (plus i think most of time played is just balatro running in the background). Its probably not terribly difficult.

[cloud sinew]

It's not difficult, it's just a time sink

[languid pecan]

i mean youre more likely to hold onto a luchador than holding onto a diet cola lol

[cloud sinew]

mhm

[dusky sundial]

🔥

[cloud sinew]

some jokers just aren't viable often enough to take in the first place (ahem idol, ahem showman)

[dusky sundial]

What was your hand level?

[icy hollow]

@ idol glazer

[cloud sinew]

anyone who thinks idol is good is not using the same definition of good as me

[languid pecan]

idol is really fun to get online before ante 8 (8 ball)

[wintry ice]

idol is awfully pathetic

[icy hollow]

it was a terrible day for me 😔 idol vs bloodstone and i had to defend bloodstone

[pale summit]

what does c++ mean? (i dont play or read the dc often)

[cloud sinew]

Completionist++

it's an achievement

[pale summit]

ahhh

[languid pecan]

all 150 jokers gold stickered

[wintry ice]

yeag

[pale summit]

yeah i should have realized that

[cloud sinew]

rental hallu omg

[languid pecan]

i love rental minmaxing

its my favorite tech

[cloud sinew]

same

[languid pecan]

buy rental juggler go next round sell juggler

[wintry ice]

do i kill my economy for this

[kindred jasper]

Probably the messiest joker combo I've ever had

[cloud sinew]

taking rentals in shop so they don't appear and for temp

[languid pecan]

i hate how rentals have a minor positive and eternals have a minor positive but perishable gets nothing

[cloud sinew]

it's almost never worth it to skip a rental non-eternal if you have room

[icy hollow]

banana gold sticker

[devout stirrup]

boss thinks it pulled a fast one on me but i think i win anyways 😎

[icy hollow]

very big upside

surely

[languid pecan]

yes but i dont count gold stickers since its useless after you get the sticker the first time

i wish it had an effect in the actual game itself

[cloud sinew]

like... showman? and if you want the joker to appear again but not perishable/eternal/rental maybe?

[cloud sinew]

I don't

[icy hollow]

rental bloodstone

to keep your run pure

[cloud sinew]

that's just another layer of meta progression

[fallow shadow]

how do i unlock blueprint

[cloud sinew]

Win a run

[languid pecan]

yeah i guess

[cloud sinew]

#⚙・modding-general

[fallow shadow]

how am i expected to do that

[pale summit]

mb 🙁

[cloud sinew]

get to ante 8 and then beat the final boss

[wintry ice]

hi

[fallow shadow]

8?????

that is way too many antes

[cloud sinew]

it is very doable

[languid pecan]

i think its good enough to take

especially with onyx agate

[jovial plinth]

Whats the easiest way to get bloodstone?

[cloud sinew]

in the shop

[languid pecan]

youre already doing 1 shot hands

[wintry ice]

checkered deck

[manic talon]

checkered deck + some suns

[cloud sinew]

or do you mean unlock it

[languid pecan]

$$$

[fervent wolf]

8 is too many?

[tender hill]

ITS TOO ADDICTING

[fallow shadow]

what mod is this

looks fun

[pale summit]

holy

[tender hill]

This gotta be modded

[fervent wolf]

No mod

[indigo elbow]

I wish rentals could be sold for their full price if you immediately sell them after getting them from a pack

[tender hill]

HOW DID YOU ACHIEVE THIS

[fallow shadow]

there's like at least 300 mods going on there

[fervent wolf]

I'm on mobile I got no mods

[fallow shadow]

what is that red circle on your cards

[cloud sinew]

cryptids

[tender hill]

Then how

[alpine halo]

splash is interesting here

[tender hill]

Bruh

[pale summit]

red seal, retrigger card

[fervent wolf]

Cryptid + burglar spam until final round where I dropped it for another copy joker, rolled into needle, cryptid. And sent

[fallow shadow]

that's not a seal that's a circke? with like a clown on it I think

[cloud sinew]

red seal being the only universal retrigger is baller

[tender hill]

K

[alpine halo]

we love red seal

[tender hill]

I just realized

[hasty harness]

hows ur chips

[fallow shadow]

im very confusedb

[tender hill]

I need to focus on my playing cards too

not just my jokers

[cloud sinew]

your confusionbait is getting old

[alpine halo]

i have found no good chips or xmult lmao

[hasty harness]

fried

[alpine halo]

i got goker and burger really early though

like

first ante 2 shop

iirc

[cloud sinew]

goker or groker

[tender hill]

i got obelisk and walkie talkie off rip

[alpine halo]

groker

[cloud sinew]

gotcha

[tender hill]

This shit is so buns

[alpine halo]

mb

i hate obelisk

[fallow shadow]

sorry I just don't know what else to do here

[alpine halo]

i aint doin allat

[fallow shadow]

ive had every conversation

[fervent wolf]

Obelisk is top tier

[tender hill]

Im kidding

Obelisk is good

[fervent wolf]

Just go naneinf

[tender hill]

But once i get better jokers im gonna sell walkie

[fervent wolf]

The switch up 💔

[fallow shadow]

ive tried it's so fucking boring

[alpine halo]

im aware that obelisk is good i just aint doin allat

[fallow shadow]

not worth it

[fervent wolf]

I know it is

[alpine basalt]

all right i'm here and ready to post as many l takes as I can

[tender hill]

Wdym

[fallow shadow]

what do you guys think of bloodstone

[fervent wolf]

Nvm

[fervent wolf]

Trash

[cloud sinew]

I think it's ass

[alpine basalt]

I think its extremely conditional

(I think its ass)

[cloud sinew]

bloodstone is straight dookie

[tender hill]

What hands do i go for

[cloud sinew]

bloodstone could be removed tomorrow and the game would get easier

[alpine basalt]

only time its good is with a lucky card checkered deck

when you alr have oops

[cloud sinew]

I sincerely believe that bloodstone makes the joker pool worse

[fallow shadow]

im out of bits i don't even want to bloodstone ragebaut anymore

[heady narwhal]

how would you buff bloodstone

[lunar zealot]

I am here now

[lunar zealot]

oh simple

[cloud sinew]

I don't know anymore

[lunar zealot]

Uncommon Jokers each give x1.5 Mult

[fervent wolf]

By removing it

[tender hill]

flush is my most played hand

[fervent wolf]

So it can't appear

[alpine basalt]

I think making it a 2x would be fine

[heady narwhal]

my personal preference is "played cards with Heart suit gain Red Seal when scored"

[fallow shadow]

1 in 3 for 2x

[cloud sinew]

this!

[alpine basalt]

or 1.75x, even though no other 1.75x exists

isnt that just what it was though

[cloud sinew]

yes

that's the joke

[fervent wolf]

Just a worse glass card

[alpine basalt]

facts

[heady narwhal]

that way you've got two scoring gem jokers and two value generator gem jokers, and it could be a way to make red seals useful

[cloud sinew]

red seal generation would be fun I think

[fervent wolf]

Red seals are already useful

What

[alpine basalt]

wdym, red seals are soooooo good for every build and you should always always use them,especially over blue and purple seals

[heady narwhal]

i could take em or leave them. and in the context of standard / spectral packs i usually leave them

[cloud sinew]

real

[hasty harness]

blue/purple way better in ante 8 runs

[alpine basalt]

I take em if I alr have photochad

[heady narwhal]

don't forget gold

[hasty harness]

yea

gold as well

[cloud sinew]

I rarely take red seals unless for emergency glass or for steel in an on-score build

[hasty harness]

but blue & purple

still better

[alpine basalt]

liar! how dare you spread true information on the balatro discord

[cloud sinew]

or if deja vu and no better alternative ofc

[hasty harness]

look at my name.

idol best joker!

[alpine basalt]

wdym, idol is an amazing joker

[hasty harness]

yeah ur right

[alpine basalt]

totally run defining

[hasty harness]

idk what i was tryna say

[cloud sinew]

if the goal was having worse odds at hitting than bloodstone

[fervent wolf]

Ragebait 💔?

[hasty harness]

idol is better because 2x > 1.5x

[cloud sinew]

TRUE!

[alpine basalt]

I wonder how my spectral card stats are looking nowadays

[cloud sinew]

this is why loyalty card is better than cavendish

[alpine basalt]

man

[cloud sinew]

4 > 3, that's just math

[hasty harness]

this is why baron is better then constellation

baron is 1.5x

[cloud sinew]

literally only a 1x

[hasty harness]

and constellation starts at 1.0x

!!!

baron better

[fervent wolf]

Nah, Jimbo is better bc 4 is bigger than 2

[alpine basalt]

how has trance not made its way up here yet, I feel like every run I win I'm taking trances

too endless pilled

[hasty harness]

jimbo is in his own tier

[hasty harness]

non ghost deck enjoyer spotted

[tranquil cargo]

how is soul so high up there with how rare it is

[alpine basalt]

haven't gotten to ghost in my gsing

I'm going in order

[cloud sinew]

it appears in arcanas while the rest don't without omen globe

[alpine basalt]

currently on nebula

ah

I forgot about this run I was on earlier

[cloud sinew]

it's also a good take most of the time

[alpine basalt]

I fucked my rtb at 30 because somehow I had 5 jacks in hand (I took first and last face down cards with a pait

[hasty harness]

bus crashed and burned

[alpine basalt]

yes it did

now I R-key because its nebula deck

[cloud sinew]

see

having 5 jacks is already like

[alpine basalt]

wait, winnable

[cloud sinew]

why did you have 5 jacks in deck

[alpine basalt]

blue seal on one

[cloud sinew]

only valid response

[uncut matrix]

ah yes lemme just

[fervent wolf]

Alright chat, goodnight from the legendaries

[alpine basalt]

wow I actually lived

[cloud sinew]

Thank you Yorick

[alpine basalt]

the wonders of red stake if

ig*

[uncut matrix]

bootstrap is my favorite legendary

[fervent wolf]

Mine too!

[indigo elbow]

what are yalls least favorite joker?

[alpine basalt]

bro why can't I get these skips on gs 😭

still taking one for the throw it back

[tranquil cargo]

I'm not falling for that one

the last time someone answered that question with "jolly joker" it became a huge meme

[indigo elbow]

because gs is supposed to make you miserable

[twilit jackal]

this scrub just beat Cruelty

[alpine basalt]

well thats nice

[indigo elbow]

[lavish compass]

wtf?

[indigo elbow]

well wat was it

[cloud sinew]

goated

[lavish compass]

yorick

[cloud sinew]

on ante 3 that's awesome

[lavish compass]

yup wow

[cloud sinew]

Showman

I hate him so much

[quick solar]

marble

[cloud sinew]

he is actively detrimental to keep around

[alpine basalt]

this one

[cloud sinew]

I love making my packs worse! I love making my shops worse!

[cloud sinew]

I love Stone Joker

[fallow shadow]

definitely not that one

[indigo elbow]

true. Outside of nanif shenanigans, I dont think ive ever seen him used to win the first 8 antes

[alpine basalt]

yeah def not seeing double

[alpine halo]

how the fuck are you guys finding souls im constantly tarotmaxxing and i NEVER fucking find them

[urban sun]

6 more jokers to go

[cloud sinew]

I've used him once for pocket justice and that's like it

[alpine basalt]

Hold R's

when I was going for naneinfs

[fallow shadow]

least favorite is idol idk why thunk added a joker with no effect

[alpine halo]

confusionbait

[fallow shadow]

this is factbait

[cloud sinew]

Idol has saved 3 gold stake runs of mine, but that's genuinely in like 2500 gold stake runs so

[urban sun]

idol is like

[cloud sinew]

~3/2500 isn't great odds

[urban sun]

terrible

i still havent stickered flowerpot istg

[alpine basalt]

standard pack had a landslide lmao

[urban sun]

[grave hamlet]

3 stone cards in a pack is diabolical

[cloud sinew]

foil stone actually kinda goated with chad

[mortal nimbus]

100% more stone per stone

[alpine basalt]

lmao

if only it was poly, I could make a shiny rock build

[urban sun]

plasma deck would go hard

[cloud sinew]

40% enhancement rate, like 9 enhancements so 4/10x1/9 to be stone

[alpine basalt]

I dunno guys, I think square joker might be the play here, def not just objectively worse than wee

[cloud sinew]

if throwback wasn't scaled...

[alpine basalt]

throwback is scaled to 2.25

[cloud sinew]

I know

[indigo elbow]

square joker feels so bad to play with

[north spindle]

even if throwback wasn't scaled i wouldn't sell it for square here

[alpine basalt]

oh wait i'm on the final boss blind already the hell

[cloud sinew]

skips 5 times and is surprised that the game is done sooner

[indigo elbow]

they nerfed it, right?

[alpine basalt]

I thought I had like 4 antes to go

[cloud sinew]

it was 0.5x before, yes

[alpine basalt]

i've spent too much time on higher stakes

100k is so low to clear lmao

[vale wharf]

Rate my build

[indigo elbow]

hopefully they buff it. I'd like to play with it, but it just feels too weak.

[cloud sinew]

honestly awesome

[cloud sinew]

Throwback is fine imo, skips just need to be buffed directly

[alpine basalt]

need exactly 1 +mult or high pair level

[vale wharf]

I now have 2 stuntmen

[cloud sinew]

why...

[vale wharf]

Ankh

[lament hornet]

Gold stickered some jokers I don't like because I had two wee jokers with plasma deck

[cloud sinew]

why would you do that

you have a +mult and an xmult, you're not on plasma so getting two +chips isn't that useful

[vale wharf]

I love skipping

[lament hornet]

Anaglyph deck has to have been the most fun out of them all

[alpine basalt]

bro I just lost a run cause misprint hit +0 4 times in a row are we serious 😭

[cloud sinew]

anaglyph is one of the most boring imo

[lament hornet]

Heart of the cards pjlme

[urban sun]

real

[cloud sinew]

it's a nothing deck with occasional high money moments

that's pretty boring imo

[alpine basalt]

good for early gs stickers

[cloud sinew]

I preferred playing a more consistent deck both times

[lament hornet]

Idk I had a loooot of fun dumping on a ton of standard packs with holo, tarots for fortune teller, etc

Anaglyph and erratic have been my favourites

[crystal field]

yeah honestly fuck that guy

[cloud sinew]

two of the most boring imo, that's wild

[lament hornet]

What decks do you like?

[alpine basalt]

hmmmmm I wonder which joker is gonna be better here......

[cloud sinew]

Zodiac is my favourite

[alpine basalt]

definitely the throwback right

totally better than a foil abstract

[lament hornet]

Haven't even gold staked zodiac yet

[crystal field]

😈

[urban sun]

anaglyph has a spot in my heart but objectively it sucks

[tepid perch]

unhindged seed

[cloud sinew]

Zodiac is just more of everything

[crystal field]

id take abstract personally

[cloud sinew]

more jokers per roll, way more planets, way more tarots

[alpine basalt]

I think most would

[crystal field]

tho on green stake

[alpine basalt]

abstract is definitely the play there

[crystal field]

u could throw it back a little

[alpine basalt]

yeah true, I could just skip straight to the end

[lament hornet]

I like erratic cuz I can hold r until 4/5 of a kind is realistic from the start

And then it just pwns

[cloud sinew]

holding R is boring to me and it breaks my muscle memory

[lament hornet]

Holding R is my muscle memory

[alpine basalt]

I only hold r on plasma white stake for hunting for souls

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[lament hornet]

Just finally gold staked plasma with two wee jokers

[crystal field]

wi :3

[lament hornet]

Bailed on my build halfway when I saw that spectral BC it was better than everything I had

[serene forge]

I hate Photograph

[lament hornet]

But muh photochad...

What are your guys' high scores?

[vale wharf]

This is fun

[lament hornet]

2.214e15 pour moi

With a really fun Triboulet

[cloud sinew]

ragebait

[blissful fog]

Naneinf

[vale wharf]

I'm not ragebaiting 😭

[cloud sinew]

copying trio when it's definitely not better if playing 3oak+, also playing 3oak+ with two stuntmen, etc

[blissful fog]

That be 4 hand size I realised lmao

[dire crater]

In what language are you speaking

[cloud sinew]

English

[vale wharf]

I only did it because I saw the +3 hand size tag available

[dire crater]

Whats 3oak

[cloud sinew]

3 of a kind

[blissful fog]

3 of a kind

[vale wharf]

3 oak trees

[uncut matrix]

throak

[glass creek]

Trio with 2 stuntmen. Interesting..

[dire crater]

Theres no way you guys are this lazy

[grave hamlet]

Yeah but that's per card, getting it 3 times is crazy

[vale wharf]

Jk, 3 of a kind

[cloud sinew]

copying trio is definitely not optimal there either

[crystal field]

u have no effing clue

[cloud sinew]

??? stfu

[dire crater]

Whats stfu

[cloud sinew]

it's literally just an acronym are you new to words?

[blissful fog]

So wtf is lazy then

[vale wharf]

Oh? Why not?

[crystal field]

if u think thats lazy prepare for how i play the game

[dire crater]

Actually yeah, i dont speak english, how rude

[cloud sinew]

acronyms aren't specific to English

all languages have acronyms

[vale wharf]

Well, they may have not recognized the acronym BECAUSE they don't speak english

[blissful fog]

Acronyms make life a bit easier brah

[dire crater]

yeah saving 1 sec

[cloud sinew]

unless your base mult was 5 or higher, then copying trio was worse than copying summit with 0 discards

[crystal field]

this is the best explanation that I couldnt b fucked 2 put to words

but yeah

[cloud sinew]

I'd rather not spend more energy than I have to to communicate the same ideas

is that a novel concept to you?

[dire crater]

Sleep more

[cloud sinew]

do you think that acronyms are stupid?

[vale wharf]

Oh, that's true. I have shoot the moon now, I should be copying that

[blissful fog]

This is ragebait ain't no way

[dire crater]

calm down dude

Its not that deep

[cloud sinew]

ah yes let me just say that I have Attention Deficit / Hyperactivity Disorder every time I want to tell someone about ADHD

[cloud sinew]

not a dude

[dire crater]

sorry

[cloud sinew]

you made it this deep

[wintry ice]

don't say tspmo next to this guy!!!

[crystal field]

aye chiwawa…

[dire crater]

Say what

i just know "fr" and "yk"

[crystal field]

tspmo

[vale wharf]

Let's just say chattiere didn't recognize the acronym, because they don't play in english; there we go

[icy hollow]

lol

[crystal field]

yeah lite

[cloud sinew]

that wasnt the problem at all

[dire crater]

Yeah i play on spanish

[wintry ice]

the acronim is specific to the community so

[cloud sinew]

the problem was saying I'm lazy for using an acronym

which is just uncalled for and disingenuous

[dire crater]

So that was all the problem? You shouldnt take everything seriously

[vale wharf]

ADHD is no excuse for this behaviour /s

[crystal field]

not was she was saying in her defense

[cloud sinew]

that was sarcasm

that's what the /s tone indicator means

[wintry ice]

you are bad at the videogame (don't take this serioisly)

[crystal field]

oh

ok lol

[cloud sinew]

you have never been shown true love and never will (don't take this seriously)

[blissful fog]

I mean, saying lazy to someone can be offensive depending on the situation

[icy hollow]

ok only full names now

[cloud sinew]

ok is an acronym

[icy hollow]

😔 gg

[devout stirrup]

wow holy poggers

[icy hollow]

i mean 😔 good game

[crystal field]

for what?

[vale wharf]

Wait wha-

[crystal field]

o kay?

[wintry ice]

a lot of people like backtracking something they said by saying it's a joke apparently

[cloud sinew]

oll korrect, it's very old timey

[crystal field]

also isnt the tru def of acronym meaning like

you should be able to sound it out as a word

or is that smth else

[cloud sinew]

no

[cloud sinew]

that's something else that I don't know the name of

[blissful fog]

So that's what it really means... damn

[vale shale]

Guys

[dire crater]

Errrr ok

[vale shale]

I'll play 1 gold stake. Which deck.

[wintry ice]

is that old english for all correct

[vale shale]

Make it count because it's just one try

[crystal field]

one is abbreviation one is acronym

[icy hollow]

yellow

[blissful fog]

Black deck

[cloud sinew]

just used an acronym buddy. there's no way you're this lazy

[crystal field]

which is which, icbf to rememver

[vale shale]

Omg you're super duper based.

[coral hill]

Jokerless completed

[dire crater]

kinda true to be honest

[vale wharf]

Nah, acronyms are stuff like www, where it takes the first letters of each word from "world wide web"

[wintry ice]

you fell for the bait now

[cloud sinew]

abbreviation is just shortening, acronym is taking the initials (i.e OCD, USA, etc)

[coral hill]

You just need severe deck fixing

[wintry ice]

it's not supposed to be taken seriouslu

[dire crater]

Yeah probably, if you joke with the wrong person

[coral hill]

Jokerless is a worthy final challenge but i found golden needle harder

[crystal field]

acronym is initialization that can be pronounced as a standalone word then eg NASA

[vale wharf]

Fuckin' beautiful

[cloud sinew]

no

[icy hollow]

fr

[cloud sinew]

that isn't always true

[crystal field]

if you say so

[cloud sinew]

ZZZ is an acronym but it's not able to be pronounced as a standalone word

[icy hollow]

i got golden needle like a week after i finished c++

[lament hornet]

Tbh is an acronym and can't be said as a word

[crystal field]

golden needle was the worst one for sure

[vale wharf]

It really isn't, it's not necessary that you should be able to pronounce it normally

[icy hollow]

ngl. i didnt even rly understand how to beat golden needle. i jsut lucked into a winning run

unlike jokerless

[coral hill]

The lack of jokers in shops made deck fixing so easy

[cloud sinew]

iykyk, www, etc

[icy hollow]

jokerless i understood the method fr. even if it took me a few tries

[coral hill]

Enhanced cards, saturn levels, and severe deck fixing lets you scrape by

[icy hollow]

golden needle was actual just luck pulled me through

[crystal field]

not interested in arguing about this btw

its just what it means

[lament hornet]

Lilo in that Hades 2 discord that game was so fucking good

[crystal field]

otherwise its an abbreviation

[icy hollow]

the example is SMS?

[coral hill]

I had to do cruelty twice

[crystal field]

the examples were ascii and nasa

[vale wharf]

Huh, I see
Glad to have been proven wrong!

[icy hollow]

the example sentence

[crystal field]

not sure what the ai was doing

either way

[lament hornet]

That's just not really common usage

[cloud sinew]

that does not use generative AI buddy, that's from the Oxford dictionary

[wheat pumice]

To all my mathematicians out there, roughly how many cryptids do I need to naninf in this scenario please help 🙏

[cloud sinew]

yay I love being a descriptivist

[fallow shadow]

an acronym is anything that means something else

[vale wharf]

How difficult is it to get these runs?

[coral hill]

If i naneinf it’ll be on my pc

[crystal field]

so basically yea

[wheat pumice]

Idk this is my first time having a run like this

[lament hornet]

I definitely do

[coral hill]

I just need two more achievements

[cloud sinew]

"acronym is popularly used to refer to either concept" can you read

[coral hill]

Play a flush with 5 wild cards and the 5 vouchers before ante 4

[crystal field]

“can you read” for someone who doesn’t like being insulted you sure feel comfortable being a dick

[coral hill]

Though that’s a IF

[crystal field]

I told you im not interested in this argument

[cloud sinew]

i am okay being insulted when it's fair

[cloud sinew]

then stop arguing

[coral hill]

I don’t like endless mode Balatro

At all

[fallow shadow]

i am can i have the argument

actually it'd be boring because I already agree with lilo

[crystal field]

I have stopped, time to get a grip and leave me alone now?

[coral hill]

I like to call it “reroll slop”

[vale wharf]

We really arguing on the definition of a word 😭

[crystal field]

nah

its stupid

[cloud sinew]

you are choosing to continue to argue which isn't really stopping arguing

[crystal field]

someone tell me what deck to do

[cloud sinew]

replying to me is an active decision

[icy hollow]

yellow

[crystal field]

Wow thanks

[cloud sinew]

that's all we do here twin

[fallow shadow]

i fuck with descriptivism so hard

it's like a top 10 thing ever

[cloud sinew]

descriptivism my beloved

[heady narwhal]

so true

[vale wharf]

So sexy

[heady narwhal]

yeah, pronounced /sms/

[lament hornet]

The example is them using the word abbreviation in a sentence not using an abbreviation, that flies with the definition it gives

[coral hill]

The score ramping makes it so only a few strategies are viable to reach deep in endgame

[cloud sinew]

I think the pronunciation is /es'em'es/ I think

[lament hornet]

U guys fuck with Bataille in here

[cloud sinew]

s is a different sound in the IP alphabet

[icy hollow]

😲 ngl i realized that after i sent the message

but NEVER BACK DOWN

[coral hill]

It’s weird because YouTube LOVES high score videos but I find them so boring

[icy hollow]

🗣️

[cloud sinew]

number go up = good for retention, but not for me personally

my ADHD ass could not play the same run for 2 hours

[icy hollow]

most players/balatro audience isnt very good at the game

and high score runs

feel like the peak for a newish player

[coral hill]

I have occasionally talked about how gold stake makes pairs too good, but I have won gold stake runs with most hand types

[cloud sinew]

I have won gold stake with every hand as my most played

[icy hollow]

i dont think i have... maybe a long time ago when i was starting gold stake

like if i deck fix hard, i usually just play 4oak rather than 5flush or 5oak

[coral hill]

I think the most valid endless builds are stuff like “biggest lucky cat” or whatnot

Those are fun

[lament hornet]

Any cards you guys feel are free wins? Burning joker early = high card W but nothing else gives me that instant adrenaline rush

[cloud sinew]

the most valid endless runs are the ones that die the earliest into endless

[cloud sinew]

Rebate

[coral hill]

I have fumbled runs with most good jokers

[cloud sinew]

I have fumbled a run in every way imaginable

[icy hollow]

🤝

[cloud sinew]

such is the life of a balatro player

Jimbo's Law; if a run can be fumbled, it will be fumbled, given enough opportunities

[coral hill]

Balatro is a well balanced game because no single joker can truly win on its own

[cloud sinew]

you don't need Jokers to win so idk about that

[vital grove]

Blueprint maybe? But that’s more so “oh this is going to be fun” than “instant win”

[heady narwhal]

ever heard of blueprint

[icy hollow]

🗣️ the joker that does nothign without another joker is the joker that wins on its own

[vale wharf]

Absolute CINEMA

[vital grove]

Ok ok that one legendary joker that is x mult based on how many cards you’ve discarded. That one might qualify as instant win

[cloud sinew]

some jokers are even WORSE on their own

[coral hill]

Iirc localthunk has said that the rare hand x mult jokers are his favorites

[cloud sinew]

some jokers are just worse than nothing generally though so

[coral hill]

Which i get

He somehow made card art where poker cards had literal auras

[icy hollow]

my favorite rn might be constellation or campfire

[cloud sinew]

Full House joker, please...

[icy hollow]

satisfying to scale both personally

[heady narwhal]

i think it needs a scaling buff above all else

[coral hill]

Full house is my guilty pleasure hand

[cloud sinew]

I agree but I think it needs a joker that's specific to it just for fitting in

even straight flush has a joker that's specific to it

[heady narwhal]

+5 chips over 3oak for something that you can only play like half as many of each round is absurdly bad

[cloud sinew]

I think it should be +2 +30

[heady narwhal]

i think it should be +20 +3

or +25 +3 idk

[cloud sinew]

+20 +3 would be a good spot for it

[heady narwhal]

planet mult usually isn't very important but i think it'd give it a niche of some sort

[cloud sinew]

Jupiter should be +2 +20 for sure I think, +15 is just pitiful

[unreal island]

chat new joker idea

Freebie (Rare)
If the scored hand is a Pair, gain one hand this round. (Hand changes every hand)

[heady narwhal]

i wish this joker i made wasn't overpowered. how do i nerf it

[wheat pumice]

Next ante is the plant and I can't reroll so I have to try naninf now. Do I have enough cryptids or did I fail?

[cloud sinew]

uhhh

is it copyable...?

[unreal island]

for balance, no
for fun, yes!

[cloud sinew]

it should be but I think that's bad

[heady narwhal]

most boring naneinf strategy just dropped

play high card 1e307 times

[cloud sinew]

you'd need enough cards in deck

but it's boring yes

[heady narwhal]

(tbf you could use it for serpent if you lined it up right)

[unreal island]

hand changes so you'd have to spam pair and hc

best case scenario

[wintry ice]

you could make the descaling faster but idk if that makes it better or worse with large hands

[unreal island]

so play hc/pair 2e307 times!

:3

[heady narwhal]

i think the main thing that makes it overpowered is 2pair/flush

it scales faster with suitfixing than castle

[cloud sinew]

for one the wording B)

[wintry ice]

well 1 chip would be underwhelming

[heady narwhal]

when you can't afford to deckfix it's mediocre in a kind of fun way since it has antisynergy with a lot of +mult scalers

[frank raft]

but u can win with no jokers

[wintry ice]

what kind of numbers doed it get by the end of the run

[frank raft]

so all jokers are weak, balance wise

[tepid perch]

Lesson 1 of Balatro endless:
relying on idol with a partially unfixed deck will always backfire

[heady narwhal]

+200 on a normal run, +300~400 with suit fixing i think

you could probabbly get it higher if you were more diligent with underscoring

[wintry ice]

you could try making it uncommon i guess

[heady narwhal]

sometimes i get lazy

[cloud sinew]

Jimbo's Law in action

[cloud sinew]

also it like

very much still rewards lobotomy

[wintry ice]

like on the surface this sounds similar to castle in terms of strength

[cloud sinew]

you just can't dig as much

[heady narwhal]

i mean it kills your digging way harder than squimbo for about the same reward i think

[cloud sinew]

so at worst it's a little bit worse than square

[frank raft]

Lesson 2 of Balatro endless:
always pick up that idol you find in ante 3 because you know you are never gonna see another one

[heady narwhal]

also harder than grimbo

[cloud sinew]

considering you can scale up to 2.5x as fast idk

[tepid perch]

This is true
Just don’t switch to it till you’re deck is fixed
Remember
Switching to your idol is always faster than resetting for baron mime

[heady narwhal]

i made purple joker uncommon on my copy of extracredit

it's still overpowered but i don't get it as much so i don't notice!!

[vale wharf]

Do I survive this?

[unreal island]

chat new joker idea

Jokedinger's Box (Rare)
+3 Consumable Slots. All Tarots and Planets are unidentifiable until they are used.

[heady narwhal]

that seems bad

[unreal island]

we have erratic deck at home

[cloud sinew]

@pale wolf ik we already concluded this but Seeing Double only mentions the card scoring and not being played

it mentions the played hand but not the card being played

[heady narwhal]

i just copied grimbo

tbf grimbo's description confused me a lot when i was starting out

[cloud sinew]

I meant "non-scoring"

[vale wharf]

New real life idea: +3 eyes, but you're blind. All objects are unidentifiable until they are touched ahh idea

[heady narwhal]

what should i say instead

[cloud sinew]

I don't know because there's no precedent

it just doesn't feel very vanilla for that reason

[heady narwhal]

here's precedent

[devout stirrup]

lilo im curious if u know ball ... what do u think is the worst gold stake joker

on average

[cloud sinew]

that's not vanilla...

[heady narwhal]

(this one actually defines "nonscoring" differently from my magenta joker because i count debuffed cards as nonscoring but blackjack doesn't trigger with a debuffed ace)

[cloud sinew]

Showman

[heady narwhal]

it's in 1.1

it was mentioned in thunk chat

sadly the channel has been deleted so this is unfalsifiable

[cloud sinew]

unfalsifiable ergo I will ignore it

[cloud sinew]

yay

[heady narwhal]

the word literally says "un" "false" so it must be true

[cloud sinew]

unfalse

[devout stirrup]

other than showman that feels like a copout

[cloud sinew]

Idol

[sacred trench]

Barely made it

Also only flushes this fun

[devout stirrup]

cant agree think idol is better than delayed grat

[cloud sinew]

???

[heady narwhal]

???

delgrat is good

[floral mural]

delayed grat is worse golden joker while idol is unusable

how is it worse than idol

[sacred trench]

Flushes are the best hand to use

To win anti 8

[cloud sinew]

I am unsure about what you mean and also if what I think you're saying is correct then you're absolutely just so wrong

[cloud sinew]

that's pairs, but you're close!

[sacred trench]

I used 47 flushes to win

[heady narwhal]

flushes are the best hand to use
to anti-win 8

[cloud sinew]

and?

[devout stirrup]

im not trying to flame im just talkin

[unreal island]

chat new voucher idea

Free Will (Voucher)
Tarot Cards can enhance an extra playing card.

Axiom of Choice (Voucher)
Packs will contain two extra consumables/Jokers to pick from. You can pick an extra consumble/Joker.

[devout stirrup]

idk i swear its only good if ur already playing banner/green or are on red deck

[cloud sinew]

I still think you're very wrong for that and I think it's a little crazy that we have the same hours

[heady narwhal]

new

[cloud sinew]

just because you force flushes doesn't mean they're good

[hard lark]

guys what’s the best jokers for beginners?

[sacred trench]

They do work very well

[cloud sinew]

Riff-Raff probably

[devout stirrup]

can you tell me why u think its good im tryna get perspective

[sacred trench]

Hanging Chad and Photo Chad

[cloud sinew]

I don't, I think it's better than Idol

[hard lark]

i don’t know if i even have that

[cloud sinew]

it's unlocked by default iirc

[hard lark]

hm

okay thanks

[floral mural]

any econ is at least ok and delayed grat is able to realistically be used while idol is a dead slot in gold stake

[devout stirrup]

im just asking bcuz i see it as the worst, if its actually good id like to know hwy so i can improve

[floral mural]

like completely dead slot

[vale wharf]

I like 'em, but they're way too strong lol

[cloud sinew]

it's not good, it's useable. Idol is a dead slot 99% of the time, while delgrat actively contributes most of the time in lobotomy and sometimes outside of lobotomy

[floral mural]

i dont like delgrat tho but thats something else

[sacred trench]

Good job

[cloud sinew]

see 10 cards or get $4, that's the tradeoff in lobotomy unless you have groker in which case delgrat is a scaling golden joker*

[devout stirrup]

it is completely worthless if its rental tho

[wintry ice]

delayed gratification does something before ante 9

[cloud sinew]

it absolutely isnt

[wintry ice]

idol doesn't

thabk you for watgin

[vale wharf]

What are some of the worst rentals?

[restive plover]

world's silliest coupon

[wintry ice]

rental baron

[cloud sinew]

Showman

[vale wharf]

Golden joker needs 3 rounds before it starts making you back ya money

[cloud sinew]

taking it doesn't remove it from the pool so it's not worth taking for that reason

[heady narwhal]

new joker concept: adds current ante to mult
is this overpowered?

[wintry ice]

this is specially bad because showman needs a lot of econ to work

[cloud sinew]

that too

[wintry ice]

still scales faster than boots fire emoji

[unreal island]

chat new voucher idea

Zugzwang (Voucher)
If you are unable to play your most played hand, gain an extra discard. (Once per round)

Zwischenzug (Voucher)
If you are unable to play your most played hand, gain an extra hand. (Once per round)

[heady narwhal]

1. buy golden joker for $6
2. lose an interest bracket
3. get $4 at end of round
4. sell golden joker for $3
5. break even

[floral mural]

8 mult at ante 8 is either worthless or too much if its xmult

[cloud sinew]

These are not voucher designs imo

these feel like joker designs

[heady narwhal]

chat new voucher idea: +10 mult

[floral mural]

better than blank

[cloud sinew]

Observatory is like, the only exception to voucher designs in vanilla basically

[unreal island]

this isn't new this is just the average observatory

[heady narwhal]

i think observatory is ass (design wise)

[cloud sinew]

me too

[heady narwhal]

also i think observatory is ass (for winning the game)

[cloud sinew]

I hope nebula gets buffed istg

[heady narwhal]

nebula deck downside if it was good: "every boss blind is Eye, Arm, or Ox"
-me like 3 hours ago

[cloud sinew]

You've upset me /j

I'm going to bed, I think Jimbo would snore bubbles and say mimimi

[lunar zealot]

rental hallu is my goat im ngl

[hard lark]

how stats (started 2 weeks ago)

[unreal island]

chat new joker idea

Worst First (Common)
This joker gains +2 Mult every time you play your second most played hand. This joker gains -**1 Mult every time you play your most played hand. (Currently +21)

[heady narwhal]

i think they should add a new stake above gold that increases sticker odds to 50% each

so every joker that's both eternalable and perishableable is guaranteed to be either eternal or perishable

[wintry ice]

obelisk if it

[unreal island]

was awesome

[devout stirrup]

woah what a shop i got trib reserved and business

jfc

[tame coral]

Finally won Black Deck on Green

[heady narwhal]

14 round win on black deck green stake is crazy

[tame coral]

crazy in a good way or bad way?

[heady narwhal]

unexpected. since skipping is really bad

seems like there are easier ways to go about things

[tame coral]

Oh I have Throwback that got to x4.25 aslso Hieroglyph brought down the ante

[heady narwhal]

14 rounds with hieroglyph ???

so you only played 5 non-boss blinds?

[tame coral]

I didnt do the math. maybe

I kept losing black on green for two weeks finally, landed two plychrome back to back and shortcut helped me beat earlier rounds

[pine swift]

3 new gold stickers done

[heady narwhal]

polychrome from where

[tame coral]

shop

[shrewd pasture]

gold stake as god intended

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[shrewd pasture]

my photochad drought is over

[alpine basalt]

photophotophotochad

[shrewd pasture]

yes even with photochad i did pairs

i love pairs

[alpine halo]

the one time i get a soul.

[alpine basalt]

I was gonna say why are you mad about trib then I looked at the bottom right

[shrewd pasture]

just deck fix

[heady narwhal]

i'd be mad about trib regardless

worst legendary

[alpine basalt]

true

[shrewd pasture]

trib is fun

even if inconsitent

[alpine basalt]

but trib is better than no trib

or rather trib is better than no leg

[shrewd pasture]

yeah

at worst it's a better photo

[alpine halo]

gimmie chicot or sum

[heady narwhal]

at worst it's half a hermit

[shrewd pasture]

true

which isn't bad

[alpine basalt]

chicot is so yummy

[shrewd pasture]

ngl most times boss blinds are inconsequential

then you hit violet vessel

[alpine basalt]

can you find soul cards in shop on ghost deck?

[shrewd pasture]

nope

[alpine basalt]

/can you get them from sixth sense/the strush one

[ruby swift]

No

[alpine basalt]

I fugred as much given i've never gotten one from em but damn if you could perkeo would jsut be so incredibly busted

[quartz ember]

the only thing that affects those super rare cards is being able to find black hole in arcana packs if you have omen globe

[winged bolt]

I fret for the day that 1 in 1000 hits and my cavendish dies

[minor portal]

deck fix of doom and despair

[vale wharf]

Absolute cinema

[unique pecan]

I am always to afraid to take throwback

I am scared that if I skip something I die next round

Too*

[shrewd pasture]

because skipping usually sucks

you see less shops

no interest

[cloud sinew]

@pale wolf had an idea about using Bluestacks to edit your save file on mobile, I'll try it out in the morning

[quartz ember]

thats good

[shrewd pasture]

can't benefit from stuff you do in rounds like mail in rebate or seals

[unique pecan]

That i die next round?

[shrewd pasture]

skipping is situationally good tho

[cloud sinew]

that you're scared of it

[unique pecan]

Okok

[cloud sinew]

1/20 of the time sure

[shrewd pasture]

mostly ante 1 investment tag

[heady narwhal]

i think i skip fewer than 0.8 times per run

[shrewd pasture]

i have a theory

people that are good at obelisk are probably okay at plasma deck

[lyric shore]

lol elaborate

[shrewd pasture]

mostly because with both you're usually switching plans at some point mid run

like between hands or for plasma from chips to mult

[lyric shore]

yea i get you

[heady narwhal]

i'm ok at using obelisk and really really bad at plasma deck

[lyric shore]

obelisk doesnt require much thought tho

[shrewd pasture]

true

obelisk is a lot simpler ngl

plasma requires actual thought

i really like how different plasma deck is

[shrewd pasture]

balling

[lunar zealot]

not even my peak btw

[dark cairn]

this banana survived 20 rounds

[dark cairn]

i skipped all of ante 8 just to make sure i could get a sticker on it lol

[shrewd pasture]

also baseball card is great and should be glazed

free value from econ jokers

[lunar zealot]

oh yes

[shrewd pasture]

more value from scoring jokers

[lunar zealot]

ask me about baseball

this is not a trap

[shrewd pasture]

my favorite pairing is trading card + baseball

what's yours

[lunar zealot]

all uncommons are good with baseball

[shrewd pasture]

true

i almost never feel bad for taking it

[wintry ice]

favorite team?

[lunar zealot]

THASNKS JUDGEMENT LMAOOOO

[idle haven]

Is it too late to pivot to baron mime

[shrewd pasture]

your best bet now is idol

[idle haven]

About that

I lost from running out of cards in my deck

Surprisingly

My first time ever doing that

[lyric shore]

well you werent scoring enough anyway

[idle haven]

Yup

My favorite photochad run oat

[shrewd pasture]

wait till you do the phtochad to sock idol pivot

so fun on white stake

[idle haven]

One day

Ghost deck so much fun to do

I got like 4 immolates early

Like ante 2

And had mostly polychrome queens in like ante 7

[winged bolt]

my dumbass will just keep this egg until i win

[late topaz]

chat do i start pivoting or stay

[idle haven]

Youre ante 5 with a blueprint baron

[shrewd pasture]

gold or white stake

[idle haven]

What do you think

[idle haven]

Purple

[shrewd pasture]

hmm

[lyric shore]

do not buy that baron

[sour ingot]

do i sell anything

[shrewd pasture]

do you care about winning or want a cool run

if the latter

take it

[lyric shore]

is baron with 8 kings cool

[idle haven]

Sell everything and buy the 8ball

[late topaz]

screw it im pivoting

[sour ingot]

exactly what i was thinking

[shrewd pasture]

making it work eventually is cool

but risky

[idle haven]

My brother just another me 🥹

[shrewd pasture]

i barely take baron on gold stake

[sour ingot]

🥹

[idle haven]

[sour ingot]

[idle haven]

Is my name appropriate

[sour ingot]

hmmm

yeah

[shrewd pasture]

where's your gold stickered 8 ball proof

[sour ingot]

[restive plover]

hehe monie

[idle haven]

On my pc save i just dont have a mouse rn to open it

[sour ingot]

muhnee

[idle haven]

Moolah

[restive plover]

omg snoopy pfp snoopy is my fav

[shrewd pasture]

8 ball only gold stake would be so funny

[idle haven]

My favorite joker is hologram but I love glazing 8 ball

[sour ingot]

right!!

[restive plover]

yuppp

[sour ingot]

[idle haven]

I LOVE BALATROOOO

[sour ingot]

sell everything but invisible koker